Gen 2 Raptor Eibach / Geiser Spring Installation - Shock removal & installation

[@johnmorrison8351]

Thanks for another great tutorial! I followed your directions and installed Eibachs on my 19 this morning. I went full steam and used spring compressors to switch the coils too. It probably took as long to switch the springs and to pull and reinstall the shocks. I barely had the energy to torque the lower shock bolts to 250, but got there in the end and happy with the results... Thanks for the help!

[@bluesp567]

I was supposed to be home a half hour ago but started watching this episode and couldn't leave! So much useful information and awesome entertainment. Your families support is epic - "such a glorious ass", what a hoot! Oh ya, and like many others, you totally convinced me to get these suspension upgrades done by my trusty off-road mechanic! Cheers brother!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

🤣🤣🤣 thanks man. And yeah it’s a shit ton of work best done by the pros

[@rickeyb450]

Your tutorial was spot on. Just finished installing Eibachs on my 18 Raptor. You were right, the most strenuous part was removing and installing the nuts on the strut mounts. Not impossible but definitely tedious. Took my truck to a do it yourself shop and saved a little over 300 bucks.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

That’s awesome man. Glad we could help.

[@johnmorrison8351]

This video 100% makes me want to find a shop that’s done a bunch of them to do mine...

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

John Morrison 🤣🤣 it’s a lot of work. I learned how to do it out of necessity

[@dgrebroker]

Great information! I was about to do my own SDI leveling bucket after a quote for 900 from a local suspension shop! Then I found an offroad shop today for 400 with alignment so I am farming this one out now. Pairing with some Geisers in the rear

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Nice. Glad we could help.

[@rodrigocabrera8534]

Thanks for making this video. I've been looking for this for a while now. I'm going to tackle this project this weekend

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Rodrigo Cabrera right on man. Great to hear other working on their trucks using our videos. DM me on Instagram (heliomuro) if you have any questions and want a quicker response

[@sergioacevedo2874]

Bahaha ending was the best of any video yet!😁

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

SERGIO ACEVEDO 🤣🤣 wife was not happy with the truck being so high

[@KSULynch]

Been waiting for this! Thanks. Convinced me to have someone else do it lol!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

K-StateNation 🤣🤣 now you’re just listening to my wife

[@Xray8906]

I just payed to have mine done. I did my 2017 f150 and was worried about the torque specs after I did it. The f150 is a pain because stupid splined bolts. I didn't like driving wondering if I torqued everything back correctly. Awesome video. Love the ride after the eibach on my 18 raptor. Oh and it was cool, the shop that worked on the gen 1 raptor and gen 2 from the documentaries Foutz Racing installed mine. Was cool to meet them.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

XRAYDID I don’t blame you. It’s a lot of work to do. We did ours so that I can film it. Done it too many times without doing the video and people have been asking.

[@Xray8906]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Glad you did one. It's going to help alot of ppl.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

XRAYDID thanks man. That’s the hope. Made this channel to help others do some of these projects themselves and save a little money and be better prepared offroad.

[@kimcliftrn]

Very informative great video

[@terryleimonis]

I know a little late, but removing the brake, and abs brackets from the spindle give you plenty of room for just letting the spindle rest off the side, and for next time you swap out shocks, I use a motorcycle tire iron, but the oem ford wheel nut wrench works as well, because of the plastic sheathing and hook on the end, use the hook to grab a coil off the spring, on top of the upper control arm to pull it down so the upper ball joint effortlessly inserts into the spindle. You can also, use some force to hold it down to prevent it from spinning! and, last one, I have always found that removing the lower end link bolt from the control arm is easier on the ground than it twisted up and in the air, until you remove it of course! LOL!

[@GLSStan]

Awesome video man

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

GLSStan thanks 🙏

[@briantoscano1967]

For tie rods that spin I found that using some channel locks on it and applying pressure works too :)

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Thanks, that’s a good tip.

[@billolah1372]

Lol the boys got u by the short and Curley's bro . 🤣

[@BadAssEngineering]

My 2.0 Fox Coilovers come with the eibach springs, and i reaaaaaally like them

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

👍👍

[@1lyonmantilldeath433]

Lmao... Yur wifey drops more F-bombs in 2 minutes than u do in 2 videos!!😂... Seems like u & the fam have a great relationship!... Very cool to see!... So when can I bring over my '18 & put Eibachs on the front?!... I want the whole crew there bro!!😂... Be well & God bless y'all.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

🤣🤣🤣 well we do need to find the built 🤪. Thanks man. We had a lot of fun making this one

[@The_Saylor_Adventures]

Awesome video! How long do you think it actually took for both sides? Ball park on both take off/install? Thanks! 🙏🏻

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

We can do a shock swap on both sides in just over an hours these days. But if this is your first time plan for at least 3 hours, ball joints will get stuck and a take a while to come off. Shock bucket bolts will take a while. And then the spring swap swap. Don’t use the traditional window makers here. They will not be strong enough. Work with a shop that has a proper wall mounted spring compressor and bring in the shocks for them to swap.

[@chriscansler8408]

Can you confirm that these 19 live valves do NOT have perch adjustment from factory like the older ones? Thank you!! Channel rocks

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

They don’t. Only the 2010-2014 shocks have perch adjustment to add preload. From 2017-present you need a collar or a top hat to add preload.

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

The ending 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

That 14 Raptor 🤣🤣 have to stretch just to get on the truck now

[@codename7832]

Waiting on my Eibach's to arrive. I was reading on Raptor Forums that a lot of people change Camber Bolts in order to also fix Camber Alignment while doing alignment after installing new Eibach Springs. What do you think about that? Is it needed?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Wojciech Gierczynski YES!!!! I did it to mine last week after installing the springs. The new springs improve confidence and allow you to run faster. But the slot at the bottom moves too much to alignment literally only last a single run. Only fix is Caster Camber locks. The bolt with the washer. I did it on my last truck and I went from monthly alignments to once a year after I did something really stupid. I have a kit linked on my amazon page if you want to check them out. They are a must if you plan to offroad. www.amazon.com/shop/heliomuro

[@codename7832]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thank you so much. Do you need only one Kit or two? I am new to this thats the reason I am asking. Also is this kit good for 2019 Raptor and does it require DRILLING (that what it states).Thanks again

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Wojciech Gierczynski you need 2 kits, one per each side. The key applies to all 2017-2020 Raptors as the Lower Control Arm (LCA) has not changed. I got them from my alignment shop directly as they can get them quicker and had them do the whole thing so I didn’t have to drive the truck all wonky to the alignment shop.

[@codename7832]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks again. Last question ... in the part it states it requires DRILLING. Did your alignment shop had to drill something? I just dont want to drill in the truck that has less then 1000 miles yet 🤣

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Wojciech Gierczynski yes they did. The kit comes with a template to drill a small hole to lock the alignment cams. Fronts are already there and I think it’s only the rear bolts that need it.

[@marcoperez4712]

Hello bud, doing eibachs on my 18 Raptor, question is if I remove the wheel plastic shroud on passenger side would I have better access to the three bolts on top. I would use the 18mm flex head wrench, and is it just clips and the small bolts on the plastic flares to remove the wheel well liner.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

It would help, but very little. Mainly it helps get your hand clearance so they do t get all cut up. But the actual access around the shock bucket, specially that front bolt that’s towards the back. That one is super tight. It would mainly improve access to the other 2 bolts

[@marcoperez4712]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks for the feedback ,

[@Chodee_]

Dude I just installed these springs and I’m having a “drive control malfunction” code pop up on the dash. Any ideas?? I tried checking all the live wire connections as well as disconnecting and reconnecting the battery terminals.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Did you damage a wheel speed sensor?

[@Chodee_]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad not that I know of!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Chances are that’s what’s causing the code. Get a code reader or ForScan to see what’s causing the error.

[@socaltrailtrekkers1965]

We spent all day Sunday installing adjustable coilover springs on a lifted ZR2 using Autozone spring compressors. They kick ass but scratch up the pretty Eibach coils. I woke up sore AF this morning. 😁

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

SoCal Trail Trekkers I won’t use them. The Geisers on the Gen2 raptors are super stiff and even with the larger spring compressor from harbor freight. We could not compress them much. So now I just work with local shops using their commercial spring compressors to do it. I do the actual shock removal and use them to swap springs only. Easier, less risk. And only takes them 30 min rather than a whole afternoon for me.

[@jakeharry2230]

Love your content and videos are filmed and edited well. I watch these around my younger kids and it would be nice if their was more professional language used that is more family friendly.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

🤣🤣 we try and keep it real and honest on the channel. Most people don’t talk all PC, specially around friends and family. So we keep it in on most video. That also means our videos don’t get featured, revenue is low, and growth is slow. But I would rather be genuine and honest with people than put on a fake persona like most other KZbin channels do. It’s also why the channel is called keep it dirty. It’s not just about the trucks being dirty.

[@billolah1372]

Ur sons r the best . U must have a blast

[@Bruzerdooz83]

Great job.

[@AdamLewis1]

Recently came across your channel and I love it! Thanks for all the content you put out. If you have some time, I've got a couple questions I was hoping you could answer. How do you like the Eibachs after some time with them? And do you know what the height is on the front from the ground to the wop of the wheel arch? I recently installed Icons on the rear of the truck and I'm tying to decide between Eibach and Geiser. Thanks for any input you've got!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Spring choice depends on your focus. If you mainly drive on the street with only some off-roading, or do you want to explore the limits of the truck off-road. I've ran both and there is a lot of bad info on both. unfortunately neither release info on springs rates and makes things worse. My consensus, and will be putting in a video soon, if your main focus is street and light offroad, Eibachs. If you want to go hard offroad, Geisers. Each springs has their pro and cons but they are tuned very differently.

[@AdamLewis1]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Thanks so much for the response! Watching your Offroad Reliability video right now. I definitely don't huck it like you do so maybe the Eibachs will be just fine for me. I go offroad a bit but it's really only down forest roads through the PNW. Love the channel and keep it up!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Adam Lewis thanks man. If you mainly hit maintained forest roads, Eibachs should be fun. It’s when you start getting it o high speed running and trails with a bit of chop that the Eibachs have limitations

[@neudimensions1320]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Which give you a softer ride? That's all i care about

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Lesbien Makeup 🤣🤣 see my response above. If you want a softer ride on street, it’s Eibachs, you want a better ride offroad it’s Geisers.

[@Bajaboii]

Wouldn’t have been easier to loosen the axle nut and sway bar nut allowing more down travel on the LCA thus allowing the bottom of the coil over to slide in easier?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

we did do that. Something tells me you did not check out the whole video.

[@Bajaboii]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road I skim watch lmaoooo

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

@@Bajaboii do you rush thru everything?

[@Bajaboii]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road yes just ask Jason

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Sunny 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@bradlupi8419]

Any update on how they feel? Thinking about ordering some soon.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Brad Lupi finishing filming that review video this weekend and will have it up soon

[@bradlupi8419]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Cool! Thanks for the reply. I'm really trying to choose between Eibach and Giesers on my Gen 1. I would really be interested to hear your comparison. Like your channel by the way.

[@massimoleon1776]

Love your channel..just Purschased my first 2020 Raptor..keep it up

[@fltllc4136]

If you would just loosen the bolts on the control arms you can move the arms up and down no prob. That’s how Orem bushings work. It is a vulcanized rubber joint that has all kinds of deflection. It’s not a spring. You just have to make sure you tighten them with weight of truck on them.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

YeH, but that’s one more bolt to worry about. I always try and avoid loosening the LCAs

[@A619D]

Your wife is so funny bro! 🤣

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Thanks man.

[@sims90xj]

That was awesome. Sounds just like my wife. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

sims90xj 🤣🤣🤣 figures a lot could relate. We had a lot of fun filming this one

[@zellcarl]

Awesome vid thanks, after install of geisers/eibachs do you need to replace UCA, relearn suspension or redo alignment..?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

C redoing the alignment is the only thing you have to do. Not sure how you could do a suspension relearn on the live valves. And UCAs is a personal preference and most don’t work well with stock wheels. Tolerances are too tight to the tires.

[@neudimensions1320]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad What alignment specs did you go with eibachs or stock?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Lesbien Makeup I let me shop do that and put the truck at stock alignment specs.

[@zellcarl]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad awesome thanks for your time. Is there a break in period for these springs, will they soften up?, will they lose some height after awhile?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

C all springs have a break in period. But on pavement it’s slow for them to soften up, off-roading speeds it up. But overall the height stated by the manufacturer is after the springs have broken in.

[@wpl11972]

I love her mouth. Ending was awesome.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

william Lauer 🤣🤣 now you guys know what the family dynamic is when we are all out there working on the truck.

[@mgmendez21]

Did you get an alignment after all that work?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

No. Truck still drove straight and because we mainly off-roader this truck, we did not care if the camber was off. Luckily it wasn’t, but that’s not always the case. We did do a alignment a few months After, and our camber was spot on. But I’ve heard others are not so lucky and start seeing uneven wear. I would recommend it if you plan to do more pavement than trails

[@mgmendez21]

Thanks buddy for that information remember keep it dirty

[@erica8165]

4:22 That's why it's recommended that you leave the nut and dislodge the tension from the ball joint with a hammer so that the nut will catch it. That could have been ugly and smacked you in the face giving you a bruise or, worse, hit you in the eye and cause permanent loss of vision. Goggles are your friend ;-)

[@youngthug1730]

Wasup man, wondering what do you have on the back suspension? Is that the stock suspension?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

No. We had that heavy rack in the back plus a ton of gear so we used Deavers HD+4 (2 over stock) back there. The rear springs really depend on your goal and how much weight you want to carry. If you just looking for level, you do nothing. If your going to carry some weight in the back then you need to plan your springs

[@youngthug1730]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad sounds good👍🏻 thanks

[@billolah1372]

Brother u should invest in a longer pry bar . Makes it so much easier

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

We’re always on a budget so we have to get creative

[@andybrooks4070]

remember, turn it till you hear the crack, back a quarter turn, leave it for the night shift

[@bajamedic]

Who made the lower bed cage with bed supports? Looks killer.

[@Titantramp4u]

First off...your wife seems to be an absolute jewel..please take out to dinner or shopping! a NOTE: that lower shock bolt torque is actually 420-430 ft/lbs...find the baddest impact you can find and tighten it more. Another trick to removing those taper joint nuts is a good sized pry bar with pressure on the top of the tie rod/control arm to seat the taper temporary and hit them with the impact. My last "trick" is to loosen the lower control arm pivot bolts, and you won't be fighting the arm removing/installing the shock. After the truck is back on ground at it's new ride height then tighten them back up. I mark the alignment cam so when the truck is back on the ground at it's new ride height you can then tighten them back up at the same cam setting. I was busting out laughing at the end! Thanks...

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Titantramp4u thanks for the tips man. All god info. We took the truck to get an alignment a day or so after to take care of the rest. And yeah, wife did get her shopping in later 🤣🤣

[@bajamedic]

Isn’t the bottom shock bolt torque spec 406?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

BajaMedic yeah it is. Found this out later. But good luck trying to torque it to that spec. Most just give it a few extra ugga duggas.

[@bajamedic]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad precision instruments 2-600 torque from Amazon is 350 its damn near 4 feet long works great. I swapped my eibachs in yesterday morning. It was fun tearing into a clean brand new vehicle for once.

[@omardelacerda4815]

Question I had a shop install these springs on my 19 raptor but now I'm getting drive mode malfunction service any idea what the shop could of done wrong ?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

They either did not connect OR damaged the arm sensor or the shock solenoids control cable. If both are disconnected or damaged, then you truck says I don’t have a position for the arm Or have control of the shocks so drive modes won’t work. Make sure the cable ends are connected. Disconnect and connected them and make sure they click in. If you still have an issue, look for links or damaged cables and work with the ship to have them replace them

[@donald3077]

After the eibachs settled how high did they raise?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Pluggg I forgot the measure before man, so not sure.

[@donald3077]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road would it level with stock leafs on a 2019

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

@@donald3077 I don't think so. I don't think so. the front end will be slightly higher than the front.

[@donald3077]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road do you mean the front will be higher then the rear?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Donald yeah, sorry. Front will be slightly higher

[@lyndalmorgan1541]

When are you doing the review.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Lyndal Morgan it’s coming. Covid closing all the trails has hindered my ability to get video of the truck on some proper trails. Hopefully soon I can get it out

[@gothamguy6463]

Are you selling any of your oem raptor take offs?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Eventually I may, but right now all I have is some springs and stuff like that that no one wants.

[@gothamguy6463]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road I’m also in the local inland empire. If you happen sell oem suspension components I’d love to know.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Gotham Guy just watch my feeds then man. If I put anything up for sale I announce it on Instagram.

[@littlefarmer32]

Hard to work with the peanut gallery

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

littlefarmer32 they help pass the time

[@A619D]

How much were the springs?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

You can find them easily for $225-250 for the Eibachs and $550 for the Geisers

[@andybrooks4070]

your wife is very similar to my mom, i feel for you XD

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Andy Brooks 🤣🤣🤣 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@ericbreden7585]

Those watching and using this for guidance, disconnect your CV axle from the hub. Look at the instructions from Fox for installation, much easier sequence and ratchet wrenches are your friend.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Interesting. I've done it a few times and never had to disconnect the CV. Does it just make handling the spindle easier or what?

[@ericbreden7585]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yes and you run the risk of damage to the joint especially if the spindle swings down hard when releasing the UCA.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

@@ericbreden7585 ok, but you can't disconnect the CV till after the spindle disconnects from the UCA. That one popping off the way it did was a surprise. For me they've always gotten stuck together and I had to beat them out. Every single bolts on my front end felt a little too loose on this truck.

[@ericbreden7585]

I mean pull the center bolt so it allows the CV to disengage from the hub. So when it comes apart or doesn't put a load on it. And control the spindle better rather than just letting it fling off. I use a pry bar to put downward pressure on the control arm while removing the nut. Once the nut is off, you can slowly release the the control arm maintaining control of the spindle.

[@suzuki14258]

First 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Ford Ranger2004 🤣🤣🤣

[@reyabellana3154]

lol! I'm trying to do it myself...

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Rey Abellana I recommend doing everything except for the spring swap itself. Scary as hell and takes forever

[@reyabellana3154]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road I rather pay than pain in the ass

[@boogboog8097]

Wifey reaction was 🤣

[@billolah1372]

I swear ur wife must have been a sailor in her before life . Because she swears like one . Lol

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

🤣🤣🤣 we are both veterans if that tells you anything

[@MrZolanvar]

I think that bolt is 406lb torque not 250

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

MrZolanvar you are correct as we found after filming. A torque wrench that can go that high is out of our budget, we we gave it a few extra seconds on the Impact

[@MrZolanvar]

Keep It Dirty Off-Road Hi man I need your advise on my truck ,I got the 1 gen raptor I upgraded my shock to fox 3.0 what do you think I should do to back of the truck as far as leaf springs go ,also something I tow a off road trailer with around 300lb tongue weight on the hitch . By the way I have a torque wrench that would do over 400lb you can barrow it you need it

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

MrZolanvar towing and the raptor don’t mix well man. You can look at HD deaver springs but you need to plan ahead with heights and how much sagging you could see with the weight. Icon makes a leaf kit that is configurable that could work to take some of the planning out of it and give you flexibility.

[@Juanitoabusadorcachondo]

what a scaly woman

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

simon said 🤣🤣🤣 I love her thought so I’m kind of stuck with her 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@Juanitoabusadorcachondo]

🤦🏻

[@billolah1372]

Do u know anyone that has a set of geiser springs for a 2017 gen 2 raptor for sale $$$

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

I don’t man. Keep an eye out on the Facebook forums for parts.

[@wpl11972]

I love you mouth. Its awesome