GEN vs TSM | Worlds Group Stage Day 2 | Gen.G vs Team SoloMid (2020)

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@Johndoe-lx8sh
@Johndoe-lx8sh 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a decent mid punish that damn zilian pick 😂
@gonyiman
@gonyiman 4 жыл бұрын
Draft 1:45 Game start 9:40
@neissy
@neissy 4 жыл бұрын
3:00 Vedius goes full cyborg
@markusbrownicus01
@markusbrownicus01 4 жыл бұрын
End 10:40
@spencersmith4373
@spencersmith4373 4 жыл бұрын
Why does NA seem like they have no idea how to draft, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ZILEAN IS YOUR BEST CHARACTER IF YOU NEED LATE GAME SCALING DAMAGE FROM YOUR MID
@hadesflames
@hadesflames 4 жыл бұрын
Because NA as an entire region is bad. The best teams in NA are just as trash as the worst they just rely on mechanics to carry their shit macro. If you've seen any LCS game this year at all it would be painfully obvious that every team in NA is just straight up trash. Not a single one has a chance at worlds and NA does not deserve having 3 seeds.
@Ieatbabys123456
@Ieatbabys123456 4 жыл бұрын
@@hadesflames man that narrative is getting very boring
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ieatbabys123456 And it's very true. For the past few years, NA has been utter trash compared to many other regions, to the point that even many actual pros have mentioned that they care more about the players's names and popularity than their skills. Why do you think crap like Doublelift are still a thing?
@panosthedarkwolf
@panosthedarkwolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ieatbabys123456 all he said is true, the whole Region is Trash and has been for many Years.
@blehhleb
@blehhleb 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ieatbabys123456 All these bronze 2 analysts from EU explaining how good their boyfriend's macro is.
@Jaryism
@Jaryism 4 жыл бұрын
This game really just shows... that map control and dragons are just far more important in the long run than kills... TSM being up 5-1, most onlookers would be like "they're winning so good!" but they were actually playing behind almost the whole time.
@bikesnblades6737
@bikesnblades6737 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it´s not just most onlookers, but TSM players and coaches as well. They´re like "damn, we were winning, why didn´t we win though!?" They just seem so clueless about how the rest of the world plays the game.
@peekjz145
@peekjz145 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, macro and timing is what really matters. NA legit needs to get this straight in their heads. I do believe that this is the fault of the Solo Queue mentality that NA have. Having a lot of kills and doing the most damage is good but if you lose the game, no body really cares.
@SyntheticYassien
@SyntheticYassien 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, did you see the fnatic game? It depends on alot of aspects, regarding the rest of the comp, spica is literally the best NA jungler rn, he trolls sometimes but he's great and consistent, in fnatic game he just did all you said, took 2 heralds and 1 drake out of 2 drakes, they lost as well?... It depends on the comp.
@CacheTaFace
@CacheTaFace 4 жыл бұрын
What are they drafting? Are they homesick or something?
@jadentran9895
@jadentran9895 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you sounding like this is your first time seeing TSM fk up draft this hard? They ALWAY do this and that’s why I don’t know why people think TSM can get out of this group lol
@CacheTaFace
@CacheTaFace 4 жыл бұрын
@@jadentran9895 I don't follow TSM, I'm just baffled by this draft
@davers1939
@davers1939 4 жыл бұрын
I came here to watch the game already knowing the outcome, but why bother? This draft is terrible! The 2 best players are on support champs, who is supposed to carry? Renekton? Where is the frontline? Bad enough when NA gets out fought and macro played, but to lose in draft too is the worst.
@rjw19
@rjw19 4 жыл бұрын
GET SPICA OFF NIDALEE. PUT BJERG ON CARRY CHAMP. IMPACT NEEDS TO PLAY CAMILLE. Like, they deserve to lose with a draft like this...
@jadentran9895
@jadentran9895 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Ward impact?
@tomwheeler6144
@tomwheeler6144 4 жыл бұрын
Does everyone see this but TSM? TSM is drafting "comfort" champs while their opponent is drafting "counter" champs. They know your playbook and you still dont change it up. they can be half as good as you and still win with a better comp vs your comp. Come on, man.
@allanc369
@allanc369 4 жыл бұрын
When the meta has more focus on what your top and jungle need to do but those players are your least experienced. But that TSM draft with no lanes with priority and a lack of engage was sad to see.
@ArturitoBurrito
@ArturitoBurrito 4 жыл бұрын
It's the solo que way.
@whassupbr05
@whassupbr05 4 жыл бұрын
I think tsm has to say fuck the meta cause spica and BB are too inexperienced to carry and just double down on bjergsen and double lift to do something cause relying on top and JG is not gonna work out
@keto3883
@keto3883 4 жыл бұрын
isn t that what they always draft ? every important game of tsm i saw this year ... it was enough regional.
@allanc369
@allanc369 4 жыл бұрын
@@keto3883 it probably works on worst teams who aren't going to punish you so heavily for it. Plus, when they did it regionally it was in BO5 where you do have some wiggle room to mess around with. But BO1 probably isn't the place to bring it out.
@ryanbutler1709
@ryanbutler1709 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why they keep putting DL on Senna?
@daviddevera4921
@daviddevera4921 4 жыл бұрын
It’s one of his best champs
@femiyusuf3631
@femiyusuf3631 4 жыл бұрын
david devera in the lcs maybe where he isn’t as challenged in the bot lane but he is literally in a group with bot laners who have made a name for their team, senna is such a feast of famine champ and that if the game doesn’t go 40+ mins she’s a useless champ. And quite clearly the meta is showing early game pressure I just don’t understand what tsm draft was doing, the renekton and nidalee pick wasn’t bad but volibear has proven hard to punish this worlds so it’s like damn....
@ryutipscows9712
@ryutipscows9712 4 жыл бұрын
TL did it too and it just never worked.
@GEM4sta
@GEM4sta 4 жыл бұрын
IMO bigger problem maybe was -30 CS mid -30 CS NID and also -15 CS top. Literally every position losing, TSM very fortunate to get some kills to not get blown off the map by pure farming... Starting to believe the Wildcard comments.
@lukaskrause6022
@lukaskrause6022 4 жыл бұрын
They can’t trust him to play something where he has to actually impact the game
@angelotan2692
@angelotan2692 4 жыл бұрын
the comp is hard to execute but i think it is winnable. tsm just fked up in the 3rd dragon fight. although a hyper carry for dlift should give them more late game assurance, the senna doesn’t do anything if they fall behind.
@cim888
@cim888 4 жыл бұрын
Want to hear a joke? TSM. Seriously was the heck does NA have 3 reps for? They've done nothing the past 9 years... Would rather see more Oceanic and SE Asian team
@zthulhu1417
@zthulhu1417 4 жыл бұрын
100% true. The place should be given to another region, Oceania, Russia, SE asia. NA is no longer that competitive.
@chronosindo1485
@chronosindo1485 4 жыл бұрын
@@zthulhu1417 OCE got shutdown, they're part of lcs now
@esportsweapon6907
@esportsweapon6907 4 жыл бұрын
I understand why we drafted the way we did, but it was still kinda bad. To be honest my only real issue is with the Senna pick. The amount of souls she gets got nerfed and it was a losing lane. Top/Jungle did what they could do. Zilean fell behind but it still did what it was supposed to do. I would have rather seen DL pick up the Ezreal or at least go Jhin.
@faytherogue1708
@faytherogue1708 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, it's the nidalee. Watch each fight again. Nid does nothing besides gap close on a couple ganks. It's otherwise completely useless. Each time they catch someone out later in a 2v1, they do 0 dmg to them. Nidalee can hardly participate in the late game team fights either. Everything else was okay, but the nidalee means they're essentially playing 4v5.
@somersault1123
@somersault1123 4 жыл бұрын
TSM coaching staff: "Okay, we have the most mechanically gifted ADC in our League. Let's put him on a CC support."
@somersault1123
@somersault1123 4 жыл бұрын
@@faytherogue1708 That is a thing. But it's more because NA = shit.
@robertbesel1
@robertbesel1 4 жыл бұрын
@@somersault1123 doublelift mechanically gifted? There is 0 difference in mechanics of NA ADC`s, thats just completely unfounded.
@just4head215
@just4head215 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertbesel1 Tactical is probably as good, if not better right now as well
@KeenestObserver
@KeenestObserver 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't play bad, they just had an atrocious draft. You could literally feel how useless the picks were throughout the entire game.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
Having a horrid draft IS playing horribly.
@ghozter1
@ghozter1 4 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe That'd be like saying they had a good draft but played bad. Would you still say the played well because of their draft despite losing? See how that doesn't make sense?, bad drafting is an outside issue. Once you actually execute or "play" the draft that's different.
@jadentran9895
@jadentran9895 4 жыл бұрын
AzureRoxe it’s 2 different issues because a horrid draft doesn’t translate to horrible game. Some teams won with a horrid draft. TSM is just dogshit but people hype them up too much.
@hellastraight4u537
@hellastraight4u537 4 жыл бұрын
@@jadentran9895 they played pretty good early to mid, they just got out macroed. Gen G gained a huge advantage due to their macro plays
@BaoNguyen-fu1pw
@BaoNguyen-fu1pw 4 жыл бұрын
So Overall, they are bad
@harrisonp7118
@harrisonp7118 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Ruler smurf on Ezrael is always fun
@lastmanstanding3739
@lastmanstanding3739 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@sozialbetreuer
@sozialbetreuer 4 жыл бұрын
15:26 47 to 24 cs midlane... god bless thats a midgap if i´ve ever seen one
@joeking1669
@joeking1669 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair the matchup is heavily sided with bdd,
@SyntheticYassien
@SyntheticYassien 4 жыл бұрын
It's literally zilean and sett, are you stupid?
@Yakuson1196
@Yakuson1196 4 жыл бұрын
TSM lost this game in draft yet again. Picking senna and zilean r4/5 into sett/voli was unbelievable.
@nunziiii1872
@nunziiii1872 4 жыл бұрын
Welp spoiler thanks. Fucking top comment.
@Pumpythecat
@Pumpythecat 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunziiii1872 As if you read the comments before watching the video
@austintruly
@austintruly 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunziiii1872 lol you didnt really think TSM were gonna win did you
@thebigbronkowski
@thebigbronkowski 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunziiii1872 why would you ever go to the comments before watching the video? Use some common sense
@MarcosPochine
@MarcosPochine 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunziiii1872 you come see some spoiler free vod, and head straight to the comment section where you usually find spoilers. want to see time stamps? use the subreddit. fucking genius.
@camolot2102
@camolot2102 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why nid takes conq? I thought she was early to mid burst, mid-late to late game heal bot. Idk how conq helps any of that since conq is good for long drawn out fights.
@nico3444
@nico3444 4 жыл бұрын
for jungle invades and encounters, also she gets to 12 stacks quite fast but idk i don’t play her it’s just my guess
@stamy4605
@stamy4605 4 жыл бұрын
In Cougar form you get double the stacks since she's melee; it's just a less risky option to Dark Harvest.
@ovrninethousnd
@ovrninethousnd 4 жыл бұрын
if TSM picks Senna or Nid one more time im gonna fucking lose my mind lol
@headbozo1
@headbozo1 4 жыл бұрын
TSM maintaining that classic track record at worlds
@fizman22
@fizman22 4 жыл бұрын
No matter how good they do regionally I really wish they would just give up their spot. They never perform at Worlds.
@kingsosa8671
@kingsosa8671 4 жыл бұрын
fizman22 give up their spot to who tho? U think the teams they beat in NA will do better than this?
@kingsosa8671
@kingsosa8671 4 жыл бұрын
Maku L I agree with u but money talks and NA generates a lot of it
@fizman22
@fizman22 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingsosa8671 Historically...they always have. I haven't followed this season tho.
@marionplaza4240
@marionplaza4240 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingsosa8671 yeah because its entertaning to see clown fiestas。
@anojansmart
@anojansmart 4 жыл бұрын
tsm showed a tiny glimmer of hope, but it really was lost at draft
@yyalnh1282
@yyalnh1282 4 жыл бұрын
ppl are funny, blame lost at draft every year
@rara2fyeee
@rara2fyeee 4 жыл бұрын
@@yyalnh1282 eh it was a horrible draft, but ruler just too good
@hellastraight4u537
@hellastraight4u537 4 жыл бұрын
The draft wasn't the problem, it was their macro and micro play. Gen G out macroed them to get their advantage over tsm. And it doesn't help that ruler, their best player, was being gold funneled
@marionplaza4240
@marionplaza4240 4 жыл бұрын
@@yyalnh1282 They just dont want to admit how horrible NA skill level are。They dont have the ability to compete。only good in streaming。
@ContheCDROM
@ContheCDROM 4 жыл бұрын
I will be amazed if NA has at least one good draft at worlds. These no engage farm until you lose comps are just sad to watch. I'm beginning to wonder if DL is having confidence issues. His whole career he was the guy you play through. The zilean pick is good if you have a hyper carry in at least one of your lanes, but last picking that after locking in Renekton and Senna was a bad play. You can see, Bjergson got dumped on the whole laning phase.
@kino6881
@kino6881 4 жыл бұрын
I like TSM, but they weren't ready for Worlds they were only ready for the LCS.
@KKlaryon
@KKlaryon 4 жыл бұрын
I hate TSM but God damn the "NA Wildcard" and "TSM draft" narratives are so boring and lazy, every wannabe internet analyst just parrots those points because they come around annually and its incredibly tiring.
@Obi1Classic
@Obi1Classic 4 жыл бұрын
NA deserves to go 0-18 for our lack of motivation and respect for the game. Adaptation comes from listening to others, but, hey: being challenger in NA means everything you do is right.
@iir2d2ii
@iir2d2ii 4 жыл бұрын
No C9 at worlds means no NA team is making it out lul
@samstackz5839
@samstackz5839 4 жыл бұрын
I mean C9 was there last year and nobody made it out lmao
@ezwolf9059
@ezwolf9059 4 жыл бұрын
​@@user-yz8zt1qz7vC9 usually makes it out of groups and in 2018 worlds they even got into the semifinals for the first time in NA history.
@markusbrownicus01
@markusbrownicus01 4 жыл бұрын
Except for first blood, Nidalee was worthless, and when do you think TSM will learn to ban Volibear? That's 2 games in a row they get absolutely wrecked by VB and can't even kill him in a 2v1 in mid game.
@SyntheticYassien
@SyntheticYassien 4 жыл бұрын
Nidalee got them a lead they wouldn't have gotten without, nidalee is an overall decent pick, but it can't be picked with bot/top getting pushed 24/7
@koram7917
@koram7917 4 жыл бұрын
tsm should pick ashe instead of senna if they want to pick zilean or pick a hard carry mid if they want to pick senna
@douglaswalker7707
@douglaswalker7707 4 жыл бұрын
so does tsm still has a chance to make it out of groups, like how many wins do they need to make it out, im new to worlds format
@chumpzilla30
@chumpzilla30 4 жыл бұрын
4 wins almost always does it. 3 wins and you may or may not have a tiebreaker to get out. They have a small chance.
@douglaswalker7707
@douglaswalker7707 4 жыл бұрын
@@chumpzilla30 ok so how many days of groups, 7 days at most right?
@chumpzilla30
@chumpzilla30 4 жыл бұрын
@@douglaswalker7707 Groups finishes up next Sunday, I think.
@douglaswalker7707
@douglaswalker7707 4 жыл бұрын
​@president camacho yea but i hope thjey can come back, but whether they make it out or not, their coaches need to be replaced, their drafts have been absolutely dog shit for a very long time now, i honestly think they have just as much solo lane and mechanical skill as anyone, besides bio cause he has a really bad habit of inting early into the game when he wards, but their coaches staff needs to be fired and replaced asap
@somersault1123
@somersault1123 4 жыл бұрын
@@douglaswalker7707 TSM has toothless coaches. The players make most of the decisions. If Bjergsen wants to wait until 50 mins in to start playing, that's how TSM is going to play League of Legends.
@user-dx8jm3ih7b
@user-dx8jm3ih7b 4 жыл бұрын
this one splitted dragon fight I dont get it :( It started so good
@nurilnuril4372
@nurilnuril4372 4 жыл бұрын
Ezreal/Lilith poke & re-engage. TSM had no ults for the second fight and their ults were more important than GEN.
@milianozuniga-deanda4955
@milianozuniga-deanda4955 4 жыл бұрын
What's that analyst name with the light blue outfit in the end?
@andrewray368
@andrewray368 4 жыл бұрын
Ender
@milianozuniga-deanda4955
@milianozuniga-deanda4955 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewray368 Okay, thank you! I thought his outfit was so cute.
@lastmanstanding3739
@lastmanstanding3739 4 жыл бұрын
Maximiliano Zuñixtli kappa
@Buskyb
@Buskyb 4 жыл бұрын
Whats whit ruler and the paper towel in his headphones.
@joshlopez7252
@joshlopez7252 4 жыл бұрын
ear infection
@SP-mm6ry
@SP-mm6ry 4 жыл бұрын
Otitis media
@This_Is_Something
@This_Is_Something 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't senna adc stacking get a nerf?
@luqdude
@luqdude 4 жыл бұрын
yep, went from 8% to 4%
@m3alemkbir478
@m3alemkbir478 4 жыл бұрын
Why everyone is blaming the draft, Seriously, do you think an LCS team will beat an LCK team
@dmw7752
@dmw7752 4 жыл бұрын
Can you turn comments off on these? Immediately spoiled the game.
@ArturitoBurrito
@ArturitoBurrito 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you scrolling down before you watch? If you want to skip the draft do it yourself.
@dmw7752
@dmw7752 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArturitoBurrito When you open a video on youtube it shows one comment without any scrolling. The comment it showed was a spoiler.
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
@@dmw7752 Then watch the game on LoL website? I mean this is a vod, people want to discuss and give their thoughts about the game
@whassupbr05
@whassupbr05 4 жыл бұрын
@@SockLove I think unless you watch it live, riots site shows you the score
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
@@whassupbr05 Nope, just click on vods and be on your way
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 4 жыл бұрын
Zilean is good pick because Soren knows how to play it very well with his team mates. It was the fact the team does not do damage. Who was the damage dealer in the team comp? Looks like nobody. DL ... Senna 2nd game..... atrocious.
@SyntheticYassien
@SyntheticYassien 4 жыл бұрын
@president camacho brother what are you talking about? Only way to beat sett is another ad in mid lane, zilean is the safest pick, people pick zil or ziggs, depending on the team comp, and here since tsm literally had 0 lanes winning due to rene vs voli, SENNA which is literally a joke of a pick, into anything, so ziggs won't be utilized since you can never push and auto the turret and ever w to win a game, so it's Zil, please don't type if you got like 0 knowledge in the game
@nomyeet9813
@nomyeet9813 4 жыл бұрын
pure domination by GenG
@wabb1e156
@wabb1e156 4 жыл бұрын
Why does doublelift play senna if hes so bad on her?
@GoldenBoyXCM
@GoldenBoyXCM Жыл бұрын
17:14 Doublelift is teaching this noob a lesson
@jacquelinej2036
@jacquelinej2036 4 жыл бұрын
Ruler is just so good.
@omicronx94
@omicronx94 4 жыл бұрын
Mid and jungle diff ran over this game. Had nothing to do with Ruler.
@vktesla
@vktesla 4 жыл бұрын
na deserves better. those fights at the end were just sad, I have no idea whats wrong with our teams.
@robertkiraly1874
@robertkiraly1874 4 жыл бұрын
You should be used to disappointment if youre an na fan lol
@11thHrPro
@11thHrPro 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertkiraly1874 😂😂😂
@aspiwri664
@aspiwri664 4 жыл бұрын
Sucks for TSM man.. i want them to get out but it looks really hard rn.. Im a G2 fan btw so pls no NA KEKW its meaningless at this point lets just hope they can turn it around
@DirtiestSanchez
@DirtiestSanchez 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ehm.. Let's not..
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you want them to get out? They NEVER do. All the shittalking and garbage means nothing outside of NA where they get destroyed.
@lordcanti4199
@lordcanti4199 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for spoiling the game in the top comment that was visible immediately on my tablet. Really cool dude
@zachdillenger5468
@zachdillenger5468 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no its not happening their group is loaded with tough teams that are just way better.
@aspiwri664
@aspiwri664 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordcanti4199 Ahhh yeah my bad i guess sry dude
@marvinericdelosreyes
@marvinericdelosreyes 4 жыл бұрын
TSM only needs to polish their positioning and decisiveness and they might just give us something to look forward to. That drake battle when the vollibear was the only one flanking em could've been easily dettered by sending their renekton to deal with it. At the same time, Zilean trying to save a Senna being banged by 4 players with CC won't do. If he just CC'ed the Volli who was chasing his 3 other team mates, they might've just minimized the losses. Overall, its again on positioning and making good calls.
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, thats like saying "yeah if this team jsut gets better in terms of macro they have more chances to win" which goes for literally every fucking team out there.
@marvinericdelosreyes
@marvinericdelosreyes 4 жыл бұрын
@@SockLove the hard thing about them is, they are good players. Macro game, I believe they can do it. But I think that they easily cave in to pressure when they lose a single fight. I mean, in this game they have been in gold deficit entirely but they've been winning the first skirmishes. That just proves they can play, but they lose their heads as soon as they lose a trade which is really bad.
@11thHrPro
@11thHrPro 4 жыл бұрын
You can ALWAYS count on NA to disappoint.
@somersault1123
@somersault1123 4 жыл бұрын
Broken Blade has 4 supports this game.
@thehound7162
@thehound7162 4 жыл бұрын
Just here to watch TSM lose.. I already know the outcome.
@SP-mm6ry
@SP-mm6ry 4 жыл бұрын
difference in ability
@d-boyz1250
@d-boyz1250 4 жыл бұрын
SPICA STOP PICKING NIDALEE
@toodank1759
@toodank1759 4 жыл бұрын
No double lift needs to stop playing that shit champion senna
@whassupbr05
@whassupbr05 4 жыл бұрын
I hate seeing nidalee picks I honestly think it's so shit
@HuyLe-xc5ei
@HuyLe-xc5ei 4 жыл бұрын
Spica did good for the position he was put into. All his laners kept getting push back towards their towers forcing him to give up his jungle creeps. Tsm stayed close because of spica ganks
@whassupbr05
@whassupbr05 4 жыл бұрын
@@HuyLe-xc5ei agreed, I just think that he's too inexperienced even though someone like chovy, who's also very young, is so successful. I jsut don't think spica has it in him right now
@terencebrock5206
@terencebrock5206 4 жыл бұрын
So many other options that would work better than senna
@nightponyinrface6009
@nightponyinrface6009 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: *talking about how bad TSM is here* Me: *wondering what is on Ruler's right ear*
@MikoYotsuya292
@MikoYotsuya292 4 жыл бұрын
Ear infection. he put some tissue there because pus or blood
@BaoNguyen-fu1pw
@BaoNguyen-fu1pw 4 жыл бұрын
TSM going 0-6 in the group
@salvadorb5366
@salvadorb5366 4 жыл бұрын
did tsm wonned?
@raiden_a_u_9721
@raiden_a_u_9721 4 жыл бұрын
You know who won after you finished watching the video lol
@graziano5502
@graziano5502 4 жыл бұрын
Despite having more kills yet still being behind in gold just shows how NA have no where near mastered the micro game compared to the other regions... this is why NA always loses
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
Lol is about who destroys the nexus first, not about who gets more kills. The best teams get 1 kill and trasnlate that into 5 kills in terms of map pressure
@수로김-h8p
@수로김-h8p 4 жыл бұрын
Lck가 짱이지
@jrock24k43
@jrock24k43 4 жыл бұрын
33:50 G2???????🤷‍♂️
@minghaowang577
@minghaowang577 4 жыл бұрын
lol TSM cant even match with LGD what a shame for NA
@harrisonp7118
@harrisonp7118 4 жыл бұрын
LGD is a good team from the strongest region, no surprise that they're a match/better than an NA team
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
Does Doublelift understand Senna's soul mechanic?
@zachdillenger5468
@zachdillenger5468 4 жыл бұрын
He was against an Ezreal and a Karma who are very oppressive in lane, he couldn't stack souls without high risk of death. I love when people talk like they know better but you'd get shit on in his position.
@benstringer5699
@benstringer5699 4 жыл бұрын
@@zachdillenger5468 Ty Zach. As a Senna adc main, its so cringe when people talk like that. Not to mention you're going against pros lmao
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
@@zachdillenger5468 he can literally grab souls by using basic and his W, remember?
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
@@benstringer5699 not to mention he's Doublelift,, mr big mouth himself.
@zachdillenger5468
@zachdillenger5468 4 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe That means getting in range of a Karma stun.....and damage. Again you don't know what you are talking about. Not to mention this is professional play where a slight mistake can lose you games. I swear people acting like they better then pros
@Doreo91
@Doreo91 4 жыл бұрын
that earing looks ridiculous
@Gatsu563
@Gatsu563 4 жыл бұрын
Zilean mid with no hypercarry?
@panosthedarkwolf
@panosthedarkwolf 4 жыл бұрын
I just do not get the Zilean Pick. Terrible Draft once again.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
They think that the garbage that works on NA works everywhere, simple as that.
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 4 жыл бұрын
It's one of his best champions. Even in this game he pulled off some clutch choroshifts. The issue was that it was a terrible fit with the rest of the team.
@panosthedarkwolf
@panosthedarkwolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@HalfTangible yeah no I know he is good at him but Zilean is terrible in the current meta and does nothing against that beefy Comp.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
@@HalfTangible it doesn't matter if it's one of his best when it's a champ that REQUIRES a team around him and it simply would never work outside of NA.
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 4 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe That is what I just said.
@crayon_logic444
@crayon_logic444 4 жыл бұрын
Stats after Day 3 shows that TSM has a 0.0% chance of getting out of groups.
@Bedardo12
@Bedardo12 4 жыл бұрын
By mid-game, TSM was forcing so much without any forward vision
@blazerit420
@blazerit420 4 жыл бұрын
46:56 Is it just me or did sjokz get thicc Idk if she ate well or if it is she does fitness but dayum
@diudiuyi9562
@diudiuyi9562 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love tsm...but this draft really bad...also Spica not perform well, did his Nida ever hit a spear?...good luck for the rest of the matches. Also, TSM always in a dead strong group every time in the world..
@JerryReyes
@JerryReyes 4 жыл бұрын
Stop this narrative. TSM is in the best possible group to make it out.
@AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel
@AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel 4 жыл бұрын
Spica got a lot of spears + 2 early kills. Mid from TSM just got gapped hard, zero influence.
@AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel
@AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel 4 жыл бұрын
Mid gap was awful. Zilean healbot.
@brianfaun8401
@brianfaun8401 4 жыл бұрын
No more Senna please... Stop trusting inexperienced top/jg and play double carry mid/bot
@rowan7425
@rowan7425 4 жыл бұрын
Just Ruler did “Ruler”
@Jay-wd6sn
@Jay-wd6sn 4 жыл бұрын
Bro does bjergsen not know how to cs or what. He loses every mage minion under tower
@jemanvilla9867
@jemanvilla9867 4 жыл бұрын
if ur on that set pressure situation .. would you sacrifice your life just for a mage minion? he catched up on later tho..
@Jay-wd6sn
@Jay-wd6sn 4 жыл бұрын
@@jemanvilla9867 it wasn't a life or death situation. He was there autoing the minions and missed 3 mages.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
@@jemanvilla9867 And still lost. He was missing minions even when alone and this is Bjergsen, not a random newbie. Even at the very start of the game, he missed multiple minions and even missed some solely because he wanted to throw a bomb.
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 4 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe its ok to sacrifice minions in the lane if you are being pressured. This is some bronze mentailty to get every minion. You need to understand macro on highier level, as you can see Soren catches up with minions right after lane phase. Did not matter at all.
@stamy4605
@stamy4605 4 жыл бұрын
Not a good look for a pro player in world stage, but in his defense, Zillean does make it almost as hard to auto down minions as Anivia. And even Froggen misses minions with Anivia early.
@PCLearnerGuy
@PCLearnerGuy 4 жыл бұрын
TSM was the better team, Gen G had the better draft.
@TriDevious
@TriDevious 4 жыл бұрын
Delusional
@haans013
@haans013 4 жыл бұрын
You smoking?
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
TSM was the better team in getting chocked out maybe
@bikesnblades6737
@bikesnblades6737 4 жыл бұрын
That´s textbook delusion right there.
@PCLearnerGuy
@PCLearnerGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@Jack I'm actually an EU fan.
@really3201
@really3201 4 жыл бұрын
Na so trash
@Artonox
@Artonox 4 жыл бұрын
tsm is so shit this gmame, no idea why they are so rich - i didnt understand their team comp at all. lack of cc, lack of tankiness. Just walking targets.
@takuruki839
@takuruki839 4 жыл бұрын
Classic TSM
@kingsosa8671
@kingsosa8671 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo @eveyone who thought TSM was getting out of groups
@shot040
@shot040 4 жыл бұрын
i put them second in their group for some reason...
@kingsosa8671
@kingsosa8671 4 жыл бұрын
shot040 u must be one of the newer TSM fans lol let me be the first to welcome u to TSM at worlds
@jadentran9895
@jadentran9895 4 жыл бұрын
I know right? People think TSM can get out of this group lol. Probably get out having a 0-6 record XD
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
@@shot040 I understand 3rd, but who did you put below them, Gen.G or Fnatic? lmaooo
@CrustyDonutts
@CrustyDonutts 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone want to actually say HOW they lost draft instead of just parroting streamers 😜😜
@Ravengagepvl
@Ravengagepvl 4 жыл бұрын
By picking Senna and Zilean into Sett and Voli. Senna and Zil are very bad at killing tanks. Senna can kill squishies but not beefcakes and Zilean can't kill anything. Sett and Voli are the 2 beefiest of all the beefcakes. Aka: very tanky bruisers that run you down. TSM basically counterpicked themselves with their 4th and 5th picks.
@CrustyDonutts
@CrustyDonutts 4 жыл бұрын
For instance, look at on TSM's ADC focus in draft: First Rotation TSM Bans 2 ADC champions (granted Lucian has more viability Mid Lane) and then do not pick ADC in first Rotation Pick. Second Rotation TSM Ban's Ashe after Gen.G bans NA LCS powerhouse pick in Twitch (look at Tactical's recent wins in Play Ins and both his and Doublelift's CN Super Server solo queue) -- This gives last ban to Gen.G saying "Ban Senna or we will first pick it" in NA Draft language because that has been the trade made for most of the tail end of Summer 2020 (excluding Caitlyn who was already banned 1stRot by Gen.G). HOWEVER! And this is where the loss is cemented: Ruler ends up on Ezreal his most played champion in LCK Summer 2020 Split gol.gg/players/player-stats/685/season-ALL/split-ALL/tournament-LCK%20Summer%202020/champion-ALL/ and his most played professionally All Time.
@CrustyDonutts
@CrustyDonutts 4 жыл бұрын
Drafting for Bot Side priority, looking for power in the second First Pick, against World Champion Ruler is super cringe, but First Picking Renekton is incredibly troll after TSM was just carried off BrokenBlade side lane in the end of Summer2020 which is heavily reliant on Counterpick.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrustyDonutts Why did you ask if you were gonna answer yourself and give examples?
@roberthunter6500
@roberthunter6500 4 жыл бұрын
Spica nida horrible
@teddywong322
@teddywong322 4 жыл бұрын
BYE NA
@benmiller9893
@benmiller9893 4 жыл бұрын
First
@elm9391
@elm9391 4 жыл бұрын
LOL games are so boring to watch. Among 150 champs this teams pick maybe 30 over and over again. This is rather pathetic. They should be picking from random pool of few champions per lane imho, that would really show how pro they are. Dota is still king of esports and 100x more interesting to watch.
@Ninekillaa
@Ninekillaa 4 жыл бұрын
Yet league is still 2x more popular
@robertbesel1
@robertbesel1 4 жыл бұрын
Your random pool advice tells me that you have no clue about esports. I have never met a Dota player in my life, everyone says its a shit game, should be true.
@charleskummerer
@charleskummerer 4 жыл бұрын
Wow... Spica couldn't have missed more spears if he tried. Dude literally lost 4 different major team fights for TSM simply by being blind. Pathetic. Need to drop him
@diegovasquez9184
@diegovasquez9184 4 жыл бұрын
R u high?
@charleskummerer
@charleskummerer 4 жыл бұрын
diego vasquez Good counterargument. Spica lost them the game. Thoroughly outclassed from the first second of the game
@shot040
@shot040 4 жыл бұрын
r u one of those laners that turbo ints his lane and blames the jungler every game?
@charleskummerer
@charleskummerer 4 жыл бұрын
shot040 Nope. I’m one of those people who thinks that hitting skill shots and managing proper jungle pathing is good. Spica did a good job at ganking actually, but he shit the bed when it came to execution.
@Pimula.Tsuchimi
@Pimula.Tsuchimi 4 жыл бұрын
Why was twitch banned? Oh because Genji cheated on someone scrims and found that TSM was working around at twitch carry. This group stage World format is dogshit Riot needs to change it
@youngchullkoh8270
@youngchullkoh8270 4 жыл бұрын
twitch rakan is considered tier 1 bot duo in kr, so instead of taking risk of having bot lane destroyed, just ban twitch. Tsm already picked rakan, so they have to play it with another adc. Why is this considered cheating on someone scrims? Just basic thought process dude. You're probably just butthurt that GenG beat TSM lol
@Pimula.Tsuchimi
@Pimula.Tsuchimi 4 жыл бұрын
@@youngchullkoh8270 yeah I didn't know that about bot lane and I liked your comment till the end what are you 12 years old?
@youngchullkoh8270
@youngchullkoh8270 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pimula.Tsuchimi Nah just flaming people on youtube cuz I have nothing better to do.
@wildprodigy
@wildprodigy 4 жыл бұрын
@@youngchullkoh8270 Respect for replying back with an honest answer. Also agree with @Primula Tsuchimi
@SockLove
@SockLove 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, Twitch has been the prio for most teams in the tournment, you really think its just TSM that knows it? Wait, tell me, you also believe it was TSM that used Shen jgl first time?
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