Gender Insanity and Parental Trauma | Miriam Grossman MD | EP 347

Ep. 347
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Miriam Grossman discuss the grief and trauma associated with the Transgender movement, not just for those transitioning, but for the parents and families who now find themselves shunned and alienated if they refuse to affirm their own child's delusion. They also go into detail on the history of the ideology, the monstrosity of Dr. John Money, and his horrendous failed experiment on which he built his doctrines.
Miriam Grossman MD is a physician, author, and public speaker. Before gender ideology was on anyone’s radar, she warned parents about its dangers in her 2009 book, “You’re Teaching My Child WHAT?” Dr. Grossman has been vocal for many years about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. Dr. Grossman was featured in the Daily Wire’s hit documentary “What Is A Woman?” The author of four books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. After graduating with honors from Bryn Mawr College, Dr. Grossman attended New York University Medical School. She completed an internship in pediatrics at Beth Israel Hospital in New York City, and a residency in psychiatry through Cornell University Medical College, followed by a fellowship in child and adolescent psychiatry. Dr. Grossman is board certified in psychiatry and in the sub-specialty of child and adolescent psychiatry.
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:43) Intro
(3:47) 2009, an early observer
(7:00) Bill C16, fundamental perceptual categories
(9:02) Denial and celebration
(11:20) What an identity does
(14:15) A message to the parents
(19:23) The profession has been enticed into lying
(20:19) The destruction of the family
(22:55) ROGD - Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria
(27:17) This is deeply traumatizing
(30:05) Disenfranchised grief
(31:46) Demonized and silenced for not affirming
(34:33) There is no consensus, there is a war
(35:37) Planned Parenthood incentives transition
(36:36) Delayed reaction
(38:09) The truth about suicide and transgenderism
(41:43) Lost in TransNation
(44:08) Cowardice of the authorities, ideological capture
(46:05) John Money: false theories on gender and identity
(48:57) Money’s interest in Hermaphrodites
(50:11) A warped view of masculinity
(55:55) Money opened the first US clinic for sex change operations
(57:02) Money’s Horror: the Reimer twins
(1:07:32) Doctrine, lies, forbidding truth
(1:12:57) Closing down Money’s clinic
(1:14:12) Money’s delusion is baked into our institutions
(1:19:10) The dark fate of the Reimer twins
(1:22:55) The radicalization of gender theory
(1:24:41) Hard science on the biology of male and female markers
(1:27:47) The permanent side effects they will not tell you about
(1:29:24) Why the concern is real
(1:33:03) Standing strong against cancellation
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[@elainemckechnie7586]

My child thought she was trans. I am afraid to speak about it. Our long term pediatrician told her we were why she was depressed. Her parents. Because we wouldn't accept her new identity. She referred her to a gender clinic. We could not find an appropriate therapist . We didn't go. We took some drastic measures. I was afraid the school or our pediatrician would report us to CPS for not affirming. 1.5 years later and she cringes to remember it. She is not trans. She is happy. We were completely alone and it was terrifying.

[@rogerramjet7729]

Thays the terrifying part - people who shoukd be adults in the room are blatantly lying to kids and destroying their lives. I really think Jesus is returning soon because blatant evil roams the earth

[@p-acormier5215]

Your story was frekin stressful scary until the last part. Happy for your positive outcome!

[@Bertrussell396]

Thank God!! I just heard another interview that in order to save their daughter a family moved to a new area (new friends) and changed schools, took away the phone, and put out books/podcasts about this Trans lunacy for their child to see/hear/consider. The daughter & family recovered and their relationship is loving after tension for a few years as well. I pray to God this cultural cult is broken down ASAP.

[@daisyviluck7932]

I’m glad your story had a happy ending

[@rogerramjet7729]

Stories like yours are 100% why the narrative of transition without hesitation is outright evil. Kids could be going through a phase, peer pressured or have a domineering parent that tricks them into ruining their lives when there needs to be significant and comprehensive psychological treatment first. It could be said the doctors, psychologists, activists and politicians want this - forcing kids into life changing treatments when all they are is confused, gay or autistic/Asperger's. This is beyond evil and people need to wake up

[@Nancy-uc2tu]

My child was outgoing, friendly, and laughed a lot. Over time, he changed. He got quit, withdrawn. I asked, and he didn't say a thing. It got so bad I sat him down and told him he could tell me anything. I won’t be mad. He said he was being told he was a girl, and they called him by a girls name. I went to the principals office, and she basically blew it off. I sued the principal, the teacher, and the school board. I sued separately on purpose. I won. It went all the way to the state Supreme Court, and my decision was upheld. I got three payments and my attorney fees and court costs. I also made sure therapy sessions were covered. It can be done. The teacher was fired. The principal was fired, and the woke members of the school board were replaced. My child is still in therapy, but he's doing better. I left a lot out and put a little bit of a story in so I don’t get sued, as the records are sealed. And juveniles names are redacted anyway for their privacy. But there was an agreement between the parties neither would talk about it. It is my opinion that people need to know it can be done.

[@marti6607]

Great job Nancy! If only more parents had the strength to do that!

[@terrikrucina2023]

Thank GOD you reached him before something drastic happened. More parents need to pay closer attention to what's happening, especially concerning vulnerable children. It's time to stand up to what's being forced upon them especially in our public schools and "social media." You are an awesome example of what a loving parent IS!

[@ellyw7201]

You are an inspiring example of a loving warrior mom! Your son is so lucky to have had you as his parent. No doubt your successful fight has saved many other kids in your area as well. Bravo!

[@greenleif]

God Bless You & your Son! You are in my Family's prayers ~ 🤗💗🙏🕊️✨ Also, maybe you can do some sort of blog or book or video(s) that could help walk people through the steps you took to not only save your child, but also held these people *ACCOUNTABLE!* Parents everywhere really need this kind of help & support right now because we currently live in 🤡🌎, but we can all help swing the pendulum back towards normal. God Help Us God Bless & Protect Us ALL Amen 🙏🕊️

[@elouise5593]

Glad to hear about someone who has won against those evil people!

[@daniella8400]

As a breast cancer survivor, I can tell you losing your breast and having your body mutilated is truly a nightmare. I lost my breast at 32 and now almost 3 years later, I still suffer and cry. Knowing girls are cutting off healthy breast is truly tragic!

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

Why cry about it? Having breasts is giving them the same dysphoria you feel from not having them; removing their breasts is the equivalent of giving yours back. Shouldn't you be happy for them?

[@daniella8400]

@@Capybarrrraaaa what?

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@daniella8400 What part did you struggle with?

[@daniella8400]

@@Capybarrrraaaa that’s not dysmorphia, I’m like the body I was born with and I didn’t remove my breast because I’m mentally ill, it was to save my life!

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@daniella8400 And they do it to save their lives, too. It tends to do a pretty good job at it, based on the regret rates; >99% don't regret it according to a meta-analysis at NLoM. You ought to be able to sympathise with them, but you use your trauma to invalidate them.

[@user-zb8fp9gx6r]

This is not a joke anymore! Thank you to all who stand and speak against this insanity!

[@JGalegria]

It never was a joke

[@woozledog]

​@JGalegria it was *more laughable* in the beginning

[@ussarng4649]

​@@woozledogit is not now nor has it ever been laughable.

[@woozledog]

@@ussarng4649 that's an objectively good Opinion, and I'm genuinely glad you saw it for what it was in the beginning.

[@onephilosopher]

As a teacher, I refuse to propagate this ideology and poison the minds of my students, even if it means that I have to find a new job!

[@lastmanstanding5423]

based

[@romabatala]

How many teachers like you? Others selling they souls for the pay check

[@thompsy2k6]

Hope it doesn't lead to a new job, but if it does it will be the right job. Good luck

[@romabatala]

@@highroller-jq3ix not huge, they sell themselves for peanuts

[@kirthgersen2485]

Im a former teacher of 9th graders and 12th graders. In their 9th grade year, students would declare they were transgender. When I had the same students 4 years later as 12th graders, none were transgender. The topic came up in class, the students were all laughing about how they were trans for a few months.

[@vickieperez5756]

My son is 33 and 2 years ago announced he was a woman. If not for the grace of God, I couldn’t breathe. Sometimes it’s hard to do anything, and all I can do is cry. He is so smart and talented, works hard, goes up church (trans affirming church)… he thinks I’m the enemy. Heart is broken.

[@sandersshameka31]

Rest assured that you are not alone. It will hit the homes of all of us in the same way homosexuality has. You've given him a compass of truth; God. God is faithful. He will provide the way of escape, if he has not already(1 Corinthians 10). It's up to everyone underneath the power of sexual confusion to take the escape when it's provided. Pray that he does as I am doing for my family.

[@IronMatt]

Praying for your situation. I'm so sorry. God can bring him to his senses. Nothing is impossible for the Lord.

[@ricasso777]

May God give you and your son the strength to persevere, with God’s grace and mercy he will be delivered in Jesus name . Amen

[@sally9352]

@@vampyr_ooo which founding fathers announced they were women?

[@paulapasma8004]

Wasn't it so good to hear from a professional (Dr. Grossman) that we parents of LGBTQ+ kids have a right to grieve?! I am dealing with this also and cry often. If you are Christian, find an EnCourage group that you can go to. It is for loved ones of people in that lifestyle. It has been a God send to me. May God give you strength.

[@allisa-vi7lp]

What an amazing woman. Thank God we have people like her giving the parents a voice!

[@Dwh1960]

❤

[@TheJazzzter]

I wish I had known you when my now 22-year old child became a trans-male at age 16. Our family life has been destroyed & the heartbreak I have experienced is incalculable because it polarized my family. I not only lost my daughter; I lost a close-knit, loving family too. Now everyone is confused & I have been estranged from my only child & have not had healthy relationships within my immediate family for eight years (I was divorced long before all this happened) and I am on antidepressants. My current, solitary retirement is not quite what I had envisioned it might be in my younger/ "other" life.

[@PureCurebyFaith]

Matthew 11:28-30 | “Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I Will Give you Rest. Take My yoke upon you and Learn from Me, for I am Gentle and Humble in Heart, and you will find Rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Jeremiah 17:9-10 | "The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? I The Lord Search the heart and Examine the mind, to Reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve.” John 1:9-13 | The True Light that Gives Light to everyone was Coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was Made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. He Came to that which was His Own, but His Own did not receive Him. Yet to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His Name, He Gave the Right to become children of GOD-children Born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but Born of GOD. Luke 11:13 | If you, though you are evil, know how to Give Good gifts to your children, how much more Will GOD in Heaven Give The Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!

[@sandracoombs2255]

Dr Grossman is so compassionate and heroic. I pray she continues with her work. I’ve not heard of any professional in this field who focuses on the parents - though I’m sure there are many. But her heart for the parents and others going through this trauma is profound and visible.

[@user-bj4fd5vz5w]

Too true, parents are isolated and traumatized. There is no support unless you are pro trans.

[@odawgbrazy14]

That’s interesting, loads of ppl always told me q was queer in the alphabet language

[@rdawn_art]

I'm a 28 year old girl. So glad this stuff wasn't big 10 years ago when I was in school. I had a very very difficult childhood. I am also a textbook introvert. I've been weird and depressed my whole life. I mostly like boys stuff, mostly hang out with boys, work boy jobs. Girls barley even make sense to me, even though I am one. I accept myself as the weirdo that I am and my life is so good today because of that. I am in a very healthy and loving relationship with a man which I wouldn't give up for anything. I cannot even begin to imagine the damage this gender ideology cult could have done to me if I found it in high school. Thank you for speaking out so much about this.

[@garblegarble8065]

You are not a weirdo, my sister. There are many like us. You are every inch a woman, even if you do not have stereotypical female interests. Rejoice in who you are, what you have learned, what you can do. Remember: “It takes all kinds to make a world”. You are a part of it! You fit in just fine. Peace.

[@dalidzucheredi2495]

Very true. I like your story. It's your unique life. It's not that you are trapped in the wrong gender body.

[@randyfender6122]

Don't sound like a weirdo to me. Maybe a tomboy, my favorite kind of woman. I don't know you, but I bet your husband is a lucky guy, if he's anything like me. Women like you are now being physically and mentally destroyed. It's a crime.

[@blk5124]

I often can't relate to women either. I have no friends as a result. Men get along with me just fine but their wives don't like me so I don't keep these friends for very long. I've never been "more than friends" with male friends. I'm married. Their married. I totally respect that and despite keeping all friendships in the public realm, their wives eventually put the kibosh on it. I laugh because I've never even been alone with a male friend. You'd think their wives, who I also tried to be friends with but would get rejected by them, would appreciate my solid boundaries and efforts to avoid anything that could be misconstrued. At my age now, i give up. It's not worth it. I accept that it's a rare woman who will like me and wives don't want their husbands having a female friend. I'm probably too stubborn to have ever been Trans but ya never know. I didn't get raised in that social climate. I'm glad for it regardless.

[@hej2800]

i am very much like you. i now use my experience growing up surrounded by a younger brother and bunch of guy friends to give my man what he cannot obtain from even the best friendships and family bonds. the only women i could truly trust have been my mother, my grandaunts, and my cat. the latter being the most distinguished female, as the former all grew up in male-dominant environments.

[@CrypticDuality]

As a person of gen z I am absolutely terrified of all future generations being fed these lies

[@jackandpicklesvlogs]

If you see the deceptions; you're a GenXer in a GenZ body.

[@hildegardvonbingen9092]

The Madness will continue fpr a long time amd ruin many lifes but it will Not prevail in the long Run because it's a death cult that will lead nowhete

[@ProgGoblin]

WOES

[@Statera335]

don't worry, if this circus keep going there won't be a future to worry about

[@ddoumeche]

just repeat the story, and it will vanish : lies don't support the light

[@veerchasm1]

We lost our daughter to this evil trans movement. Her boyfriend for many years decided he was trans, so to fit his narrative she became a “gay female”. She just cut us off from her life. It has been like mourning a death. Thank you for championing the parents in this epidemic

[@suehancey8355]

I am so very sorry, I can’t imagine the horror you have experienced 😢

[@kmg3658]

@@darkdaystarot .......you mean mentally ill?

[@janelleneal573]

i hope she understands you are on her side one day

[@commenter5901]

@@darkdaystarot accepting your kid is not the same as accepting their decisions. Plus, it says that their daughter cut them off, not that they cut off their daughter. Parents just want to keep their children safe. A parent might not allow a teen to do drugs because they love their child but the child doesn't listen and leaves home and ends up on the streets in an addiction that might kill them.

[@MrBochawa]

@@commenter5901 Sons and daughters don't just casually cut off their parents. And you are comparing the decision to be in a relationship with a trans person to a destructive drug addiction.

[@cmsbeth]

I am crying just listening to this. Yes, this is grief for parents, aunts, uncles etc. Thank you for standing up for the demonized parents.

[@bydlokun]

Yeah, imagine what's going on in Islamic states where children reject Islam? This is grief for their parents, aunts, uncles etc. Fuck kids! Think about poor relatives!

[@CM-uo5tq]

Families don't care when it comes to abuse so why would they care about what doesn't serve them.

[@frederickshands8230]

Miriam Grossman will be one of the people who go down in history for standing up against this. Brilliant woman.

[@justsomevidshere]

History, however, is written by the victors. We are at the point where only God can defeat this evil.

[@kouhaiforhire]

​@@justsomevidshere aye, this whole thing is horrible

[@intercommerce]

@@justsomevidshere Have to comment here about that old trope about history though, in any country with freedom of expression, in today's world of technology, anyone can write & post history online, even those who weren't victors! You don't need to be rich or connected, or have an editor or publisher. You don't even have to right, as long as you can express yourself eloquently, and present your case convincingly. That last part eliminates most of the trolls and cretins.

[@AztlanOz]

This Evil must be thwarted young lives depend on it

[@MypronounIsKing]

@@intercommerce I disagree, regular every day people aren’t the ones writing the narratives being given to kids in k-12 … the powers that be are, the corrupt governing bodies with ulterior motives

[@amandaguidry4242]

My 14 yo daughter told me she was trans at the beginning of the school year and asked for binders and to call her another name. I told her no. I told her when she was 18 she could decide then. Here we are at the end of the school year and she's back to being a girl again. Go figure.

[@ellyw7201]

Please remain watchful, and try to help your daughter understand that this trans "thing" is a dangerous fad or cult that she should stay away from, just like she should stay away from dangerous drugs like heroin. I know a young woman who went back and forth several times and her parents thought she'd be ok in the end - but now she's insisting she wants testosterone, a double mastectomy, and "masculinization surgery" to reshape her face, legs, etc. Some kids may not be "out of danger" until their mid-twenties.

[@itsonlymythirddayouthere]

Happy for you. Keep monitoring her phone and talking to her about it. Don’t let other get their hooks in

[@amandaguidry4242]

@@itsonlymythirddayouthere we actually talk about it pretty much on a daily basis. She also started out this year not believing in God, and just yesterday told me she has changed her mind and now DOES believe in God, so we're definitely getting somewhere! On the downside of that conversation, she also said she thinks she should put herself BEFORE God, and I just told her she's on her own path and she's learning and she's getting there. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Teens are hard 😂

[@carlossantiago1581]

​@@amandaguidry4242 😢lo❤

[@Jackaroo.]

With girls it is a social contagion. Commonly entire friend groups come out as "trans." Which makes no sense with regard to legitimate gender dysphoria, but it makes a lot of sense if girls are trying to fit into a new trend, which is common for females.

[@Rightsideup23]

I'm a Gen Z-er, but I often feel like I relate more to the older generations. This gender insanity is greatly concerning me, and I worry about my peers. Thank you, Dr. Grossman, for the great service you are doing humanity.

[@VPortho]

I find talking to older people easier and have common values and opinions with them... and almost none with people in their 20s, unless they're very conservative (extremely rare). Governments and media have psyop'd this generation.

[@PureCurebyFaith]

John 3:19-21 | This is the Verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and will not come into it for fear that their deeds be exposed. But whoever lives by the Truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been in the Sight of GOD. John 3:16-17 | 🌱 GOD so Loved the world that He Gave His One and Only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal Life. 🥀☦️🏵️ God did Not Send His Son into the world to Condemn it, but to Save it through Him. John 3:18 | Whoever believes in Him is not Condemned, but whoever does not believe stands Condemned already because they have not believed in The Name of GOD’s One and Only Son.

[@ryanwinston1233]

This subject matter transcends generations. It is about truth vs. lies

[@LankyAssMofka]

You have to help your peers see the truth

[@j_money7227]

Fellow Gen-Z'er here...Seeing comments like these give me hope. There may be more of us that are a silent majority than those that fall into these radical boxes.

[@Drrebecca1peck]

As a family physician and mother of 6 children, brava to Dr Miriam!!

[@jenj39]

Detrans woman here. My heart breaks for the youth falling into this orchestrated deception. Many will grow out of their gender confusion. Even young adults in college are vulnerable to this ideology due to social contagion. We must do better to communicate concern in a direct yet lovingly way in order to prevent irreversible damage. 🙏🏻

[@deborahs2593]

Do you have any advice/suggestions for parents facing this? Thinking back- is there anything someone might have done or said that would have stopped your transition?

[@magdalenastepien4912]

Im interested in that question..my child is at that situation ..😢

[@kayannejackson7061]

I don’t know what l I l

[@mrkrabstinysadviolin1400]

@jen Thank you for calling it what it is-orchestrated deception. You would know better than most.

[@concettaworkman5895]

@@deborahs2593 Get them off all internet, take their phone, change schools, or home school, never call them by their new name, or pronouns, never let them cross dress. Period, Put your foot down.

[@yazminetenley3933]

Thank you for talking about this. My 12 year old sister learned about gender ideology online and a 40 year old person wearing a fox suit convinced her that she’s nonbinary and even gave her a new name. She was so confused that she felt suicidal and had to stay in a mental hospital for a week. She socially transitioned at school months before my family found out about it because the school didn’t tell us. She is currently in therapy but the therapist is just affirming her gender confusion and my parents and other sister agree with the affirmation. My sister has been failed by the internet, my parents, the school, the hospital, and the therapist. I am so disgusted with the people who confused her to the point of wanting to die she is only 12 years old. 💔

[@yazminetenley3933]

I am using a fake KZbin name because this isn’t business I want anyone I know in real life to know about and because I will be attacked for worrying about my sister. I have already been attacked by my 18 year old sister because I acknowledge the fact that this gender ideology was pushed onto my 12 year old sister. This gender ideology has ruined my family and I am currently estranged from them.

[@rachellelees4295]

I am so sorry for your situation. I really don't know what to say, but I hope prayers that your poor 12 year old sister will come out of this evil trap will help.

[@stefaniapozzi2296]

Keep fighting

[@emilalexandrudinu-popa7182]

I am so sad to hear your story and pray that you find the strength in you to help your sister as best you can. I can only imagine what you are going through. I hope you will be able to support her and be there for her.

[@atlasfeynman1039]

Remind her that you will love her no matter what she looks like; it's what's inside that counts and the challenge is to accept and love ourselves for who we are, not what we want to be.

[@SW.Wallace]

I recently started watching Jordan Peterson interviews, It makes me feel better that there still are people out there with a brain, there is some semblance of hope still to grab on to.

[@petermalmgren1207]

Absolutely

[@petermalmgren1207]

We also just started listening to Dr Peterson

[@scplrsp]

Thank you for your work in this area. I watched my happy, feminine 16 year old be groomed and confused by teachers at her high school, DERANGED social media personalities (I discovered this later) and a few friends and she is now lost LOST at 19 in the depths of the cult and barely has any contact with her parents, her siblings, her extended family...and she BELIEVES this is who she always was. The lies, the gaslighting, the extreme cult like behavior is shocking. Once I really realized what was happening when she was around 17 I did everything I could think of, but the ideology she was spoonfed was so deeply rooted that all of my attempts made it more likely she would never contact me again. I've had to step back and hope for the best. I hope everyone pushing this rots.

[@PureCurebyFaith]

Please don't succumb to hatred and resentment, friend. This will rot your heart more than the ones you wish for it to. I know that GOD's Judgement will be Perfect and measured, however Vindication is His and never humans'. Matthew 11:28-30 | “Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I Will Give you Rest. Take My yoke upon you and Learn from Me, for I am Gentle and Humble in Heart, and you will find Rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” John 1:9-13 | The True Light that Gives Light to everyone was Coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was Made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. He Came to that which was His Own, but His Own did not receive Him. Yet to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His Name, He Gave the Right to become children of GOD-children Born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but Born of GOD. John 3:16-17 | 🌱 For GOD so Loved the world that He Gave His One and Only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal Life. 🥀☦️🏵️ For God did Not Send His Son into the world to Condemn it, but to Save it through Him. Please take heart and have Trust in The GOD Who Takes Compassion on your situation.

[@cartergomez5390]

The Bible will not save anyone. There has to be pushback from the parents. I'm a transexual guy and i work with children in behavioral health, although right now I'm getting ready to graduate with my masters of arts in human services. I do not approve of mutilating and pumping hormones at these kids. This is 2nd degree murder since it affects the developing reproductive organs of a child!!!

[@scapps8173]

You are right, this is a cult.

[@raymondzehrung9274]

Ten years ago, my second oldest daughter was in a summer intern program at Johns Hopkins. She was 15 years of age. After her stint, she came to me and said it was the weirdest experience she had ever had with her young peers. She said that there were several children who claimed they were "non-binary", or claimed to be boys one day and girls the next day. Or who slept with girls and then with boys, since they were "gender confused". One boy asked my daughter "what gender do you think I am?" My daughter said "do you have a penis?" He replied in the affirmative. My daughter looked at him and said "Then...you are a boy". To her, all of this was nonsense and she was mystified as to what the heck was wrong with all of these obviously intelligent children (invitation only internship, 20 students from the whole USA) whose parents were all elites in their fields. I told her that they appeared to be irrational and non-logical thinkers. She's finishing her PhD in a STEM field now.

[@TrianglePants]

Academia has always been a cult. It's just becoming increasingly obvious.

[@tubester4567]

Students are being groomed in schools, universities and institutions. There are LGBT groups "reaching out" to students, befriending them, then the brainwashing starts. Its like religion or a cult. Quiet kids, autistic kids and awkward kids are targeted then love bombed and brainwashed. We need to prepare our kids for their methods.

[@norbucso]

Well done. Raised her right. Keep up the great work as a parent. This nonsense will be dethroned soon enough.

[@Dragonologist]

Intelligence is not obvious and you are under the interpretation that these programs are based upon meritocracy and not diversity, equity and inclusion.

[@raymondzehrung9274]

@@norbucso I started teaching all three of my girls how to play games of logic by age 5. Chess....mostly. Only Knights can move as Knights move. Same with the Bishops, Rooks, King, Queen and Pawns. No matter how much one wants his Bishop to behave as a Knight behaves, the Bishop can only be what it is and move in a specific way. Can't call a Bishop a Knight and expect people to think you have a brain or understand the rules of the game.

[@lukeshioshio]

As a person with a psychology degree I just wanna say I'm very grateful for Jordan Peterson's videos right now

[@TheRealJellyBomb]

You and my therapist both. And by extension, me as well, because my therapist is the most important woman (well, person really) I've ever met.

[@Madonnalitta1]

😂

[@TheRealJellyBomb]

@@Madonnalitta1 Ah, 21st-century mental disability and its desire to be seen 🤗

[@apurvaaryan7984]

As a medical student I concur😅.

[@carlosm.devasconcelllos3939]

And for his life.

[@janetharper6966]

Miriam hits the nail on the head of what my family has & is going through. Now to get my son to hear this to understand what he is putting us through. It's always been about him & what he is feeling. Never once had he tried to help us understand why he thinks he is a women. He is 23 now & has been out of the house for 3 yrs but I can't stop thinking about my son being gone & what he thinks is wrong with himself. I still cry often for him. I love him so much.

[@slumberland969]

That must be excruciatingly painful especially since he’s no longer a child and distanced himself from you. Just continue to show him love and hopefully one day he will come to see the truth 🙏🏼 😢

[@drawingangel2]

I pray God brings him back home like the prodigal son story in the bible. ❤ In the name of Jesus I pray Amen.

[@creativeactivitiesbynaomi3314]

Similar story with me. My adult daughter thinks she is a man. I have prayed often and hope that one day the trans path can never make a person happy. It is a road to hell.

[@elsavandyk847]

Praying for.the children to know.the.truth of Jesus.and.how.they are.created.

[@ogiaag5m]

I am in the same position as you and feel your pain. My son told us that he was non binory and that we had to call him by his new name or he would cut us off. He was raised in a Christian home. We haven't seen him for over a year now but I'm a strong believer in prayer and I believe what the enemy meant for harm my God will turn it for good.

[@tessellatiaartilery8197]

Dr Grossmann should be nominated for a national medal for her civic, professional and intellectual integrity. We need more people in the world like her. And as a woman I find her an especially inspiring role model. Wishing well to all those affected by these difficult issues.

[@amandamorris2213]

I am a 50 year old woman and a proud female!! I was a tomboy all throughout my adolescent years. So glad these evil ones didn't get a chance to indoctrinate me! Had short hair, wore boy's clothes, played with boy's toys, had mostly boy friends. Unbelievable what these people are doing to children today!!!!

[@saraj-wn1nr]

Same! So glad when I was that young tomboy no one tried to brainwash me into thinking I should be a boy! I am so thankful I had that phase but also that I am a woman.

[@nobledarkmoon]

I, as a father, would defend my children. To protect my children from this ideology. Forcing someones stereotypes on my children, would focus my attention on their interest(sexual implication).

[@Akito0110]

You're lucky, then. I am 38 and am still all of that; since I was 4, I thought I was a boy. Still think I am a boy, just was born with a female body. But I don't want to get on hormones or have surgery. I just suffer in the wrong body. Glad you are proud of your gender, but I wish I was something more :(

[@nessa_amo8077]

Same here! I’m 27 and I wear mens t shirts and tank tops with leggings or womens pants. I wear womens shirts as well but not as often. I’ve only been seen in a dress a few times. When I was little I’d play with dinosaurs instead of Barbie dolls. I played in mud and loved bugs and still do. I don’t wear makeup and rarely do my hair. I never had a good friendship with other women because I don’t fit in with them I’m not even sure if that’s the issue. Theyd always backstab me somehow though. But all this has never made me feel like I was a different gender. I’m a woman and I’m just being myself. I don’t even consider myself as a tomboy. If I was still in school in these days I’m sure I’d be pushed to believe I was a boy and that’s really terrifying to think about. Women can wear mens clothes,not wear makeup,or not have a girly personality. It’s okay! It doesn’t mean we were born the wrong gender. That’s impossible in my opinion. I believe sex changes should only be for those that are actually born with both genders. They are the ones that truly need it. This trans thing is being pushed on children like it’s some kind of trend. It’s truly sickening and shameful! All these children and teenagers being butchered will soon realize in the future they made the biggest mistake. Their body’s will be ruined and familys broken. It’s already happening more and more everyday and it’s heartbreaking. The system is so corrupted and evil!

[@amandamorris2213]

@@nessa_amo8077 I agree with you 💯%!!!

[@JenniferClevenger20]

I’m crying watching this because this is the first time MY trauma has been validated, especially by a mental health professional. Thank you Dr. Grossman. You really understand.

[@lucassarchet6712]

I am feeling the exact same way.

[@larag4646]

I hope y'all find peace.

[@barbarataylor8101]

God Bless You

[@Irunwithscissors63]

My heart goes out to you 💕

[@ronaldmay8861]

My wife and I feel the same way....we have been living through hell because our daughter thought she was a boy and killed herself.

[@susanschott5147]

I listened to this whole video and a couple others by Dr. Miriam Grossman, and I want to say that I am really impressed! I don’t even know anyone who has this gender problem- I am 76 years old and was born long before any of this happened! But I am very impressed with her concern for young people and their parents! I’m also very impressed that she is willing to challenge many in her profession, with her impressive knowledge! Thank You Dr. Grossman! If I ever hear of anyone who has this problem, I will tell them about you and your books! You come across to me as a very dedicated professional! God Bless You and your work! Sincerely, Susan Schott

[@carolekohl-duggan9982]

Absolutely well said. l am an 80yr old grandmother with 3 still very young grandchildren and the 'fear in my belly' because of what they are wanting to do here in Germany with Agenda 2030. It is completely diabolic. This interview was splendid. l also 'take my hat off' to Dr Grossmann and Prof. Jordon Peterson for putting this out there. Heartfelt thanks! 🙏👍🙌👌

[@sharonalbanese8084]

She is truly wonderful. She really cares about the many people who are affected by this. Thank goodness there are people like her who are fighting for these children.

[@laever1804]

Dr. Grossman is a HERO in my view. Her ability to stand up based on her deep faith. Is deeply encouraging to me. It is my opinion, that the insidious ideology of humanists, whether, Money, Kinsey, Marx, Darwin have brought so much destruction in mankind it is breath taking. I have such deep respect for Dr. GROSSMAN and Dr.Peterson. I say with deep, heartfelt appreciation, THANK YOU.

[@emmanueladams3120]

Darwin has brought destruction to mankind!? Do you not realize how much advancement in human genetics, physiology, medicine, etc. was inspired by him?

[@michelebarile6218]

👍

[@poon_don]

Money is perhaps the absolute worst villain in all of psychology. If more people were aware of his cruel and monstrous nature, as well as the deaths and trauma for which he was responsible, people might have a lot more healthy skepticism toward this current gender ideology. It's no wonder they never speak of the man who coined the word they're so obsessed with.

[@UltraVibeLounge]

​@@poon_donCouldn't have said it better.

[@donblosser8720]

You left out one particularly noxious and arrogant humanist, Dr. Death Fauci. He was chosen as Humanist of the Year in 2021. Humanists/Atheists claim they can be good without a god but they have no objective standard for goodness. Or evil. They can egotistically rationalize anything and reject the concept of moral accountability.

[@RachelFullmer7764]

My daughter told me she was trans a year ago at age 15. To say that I have experienced trauma as a parent is a huge understatement, and yet NO ONE addresses this aspect. I have taken the stance that real compassion doesn’t come from simply giving in to the trans ideology, but rather helping the child navigate the feelings they’re having but not taking any steps toward transitioning. I truly believe that my daughter has no clue what she is choosing in terms of this gender agenda. I have sleepless nights, vacuous days occasionally where I just want to give up, and SOOOOO many instances of feeling alone and unseen or unheard. I wish this aspect of parenting a “trans” child was addressed more thoroughly!!!! Listening to this video was the first time I EVER felt seen as a parent dealing with this issue. I have often said that if I survive this stage of parenting it will be nothing short of a miracle. As a side note, I withdrew my daughter from public school this year (she was being bullied and it went unaddressed, but certain teachers were also pushing the gender ideology and I didn’t agree with that.) it was the most difficult and yet probably the best decision I think I ever made in regard to removing my child from a toxic environment. She will be getting her GED soon and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but her father and I have been so relieved to not have her in the school system.

[@loveamerica5725]

More people need to take their kids out of the public school system like you did.

[@RachelFullmer7764]

@@loveamerica5725 Thank you for that validation!

[@brontenine]

You did the right thing. Worst mistake I made was continuing to pay for college when all her friends were pushing the trans. agenda and all simultaneously transitioning. Now it's too late. No going back.

[@calebmanuel17]

@@RachelFullmer7764 what is GED System?

[@armouredjester1622]

​@@calebmanuel17 general educational diploma, if I'm not mistaken. I could go dig mine out of the filing cabinet to verify, but not super important. It's a program run by each state to verify a young adult has reached a certain level of education to get them out of high school early. I got mine October 2011.

[@elenatramsti5176]

Puberty is a very difficult time for children, especially girls I think. I hated hearing people tell me it was time I got a bra. When my mother took me to get one, I hated the way it felt. When I first got my period, I hated it. My mother congratulated me but I was miserable since the cramps were so bad, I cried and called it "the curse". After a while I got used to it all and learned how to deal with menstrual discomfort. Since then I have never stopped thanking God for making me female. I've never had a child but that is not the only thing that makes one a woman. I am now 70 years old and no longer menstruate. I had breast cancer but had a lumpectomy and now I am fine. And I still love being a woman.

[@slumberland969]

These experiences can only be had by a biological woman and cannot be fabricated. They also contribute largely to our strength and endurance as the female sex. Well done ❤

[@serpentines6356]

​@@slumberland969 Thanks for a good, positive post! 🙏 🌿 💜

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Every person should love being the gender and sex god gave them. Their biological sex

[@katherineirving7189]

🥰👍👍👍

[@YourMom-ll4el]

Bruh same i was 8 when my bitties came out and I _hated_ putting on a bra. Thank f*$@× the whole trans nonsense wasn't around in schools back then

[@storytimewithauntmonica955]

I read Dr G’s first book AGES ago and it had a huge impact on me. I made my (6) kids read it and gave copies to my friends. I’m so pleased and grateful she’s still out there fighting the good fight.

[@eloimireault8401]

One of my friend opened up to me about her desire to transition. I talked to her about it a lot and sent some of Jordan's content and she realized it never was about gender. She is glad she did not go forward with it and tells me I may have saved her life. Don't encourage people in their delusion

[@MsGnocchi]

I would love to know what you told her. I am having a hard time asking my teen daughter about what her reasons are for being a trans boy.

[@cannuckpatriot]

I have never cried so hard as i did hearing a REAL therapist affirming me as a parent. You have NO IDEA how this has helped me. I am buying her book ASAP. A MILLION THANK YOUS!

[@greenleif]

Sending You hugs & comfort & prayers for Peace of Mind & Heart 🤗💗🙏🕊️✨ God Bless You ~

[@kathleensawchuk4212]

Have you made contact with pkrogd Canada?

[@Handsoffthekids]

Yes it was relieving to hear that trauma confirmed.

[@verarivadeneira5275]

Hugs and prayers!! Cling on God 24/7

[@Eadric_The_Wild]

remember that you're the righteous one, not the psychos pushing this evil doctrine onto children, despite what they may say.

[@Kate-oi9jn]

My husband abandoned me and my young daughter for persuing his transgender euphoria(He is very addicted to SNS). I am Korean and he is American. Since the health care is good in Korea, he got all the benefit as a diabetic(type 1) person and other surgeries here. Since I didn't catch up WOKE ideology, he treated me brutally both online and offline. I got brain tumor this year and should raise my 9 year old daughter alone now. Thank you for talking about transgenders' family. I cried a lot and thank you again.

[@blk5124]

😢So sorry. I hope you have extended family to help and support you through all this. ❤

[@thecove4770]

I’m so sorry you must walk this painful path. Prayers and love, and condolences from the U.K.

[@isaidwhatisaid8470]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Lnexus6789]

I Hope you get a beautiful and Happy life in this hardship

[@StaryzHelios]

hope you marry muslim man, strong faith in religion and wise man that will not transition to LBGT.

[@ambition112]

0:00: 🔍 Dr. Miriam Grossman expresses concern about the dangerous effects of gender ideology on young people's identity and mental health. 10:07: 🔑 Dr. Peterson and the speaker discuss the issues surrounding identity, particularly in relation to the LGBTQ+ community and the impact on parents of transgender individuals. 19:24: 😢 A psychiatrist acknowledges the trauma and grief experienced by parents of children with gender dysphoria, apologizes on behalf of the medical profession, and highlights the ongoing losses they face. 29:28: 💔 Parents of gender questioning or confused children are experiencing disenfranchised and demonized grief, facing isolation and criticism for their beliefs and concerns.46:08: 💡 The book aims to educate parents about the background of gender identity and how it is separate from biology. 49:43: 📚 John Money, a psychologist, became interested in sex assignment of hermaphrodites due to his own discomfort with his masculinity and body 1:01:05: 📚 Dr. John Money conducted an experiment on twin boys, surgically altering one to be raised as a girl, but the experiment ultimately failed. 1:12:16: 😱 The case of David Reimer and John Money's experiment was a disastrous failure, resulting in suicide, drug overdose, and trauma for the family. 1:23:09: 💡 The interview discusses the radicalization of gender ideology and the dangers of medical transition for children with gender dysphoria. 1:30:47: ✅ Dr. Grossman discusses the increase in gender dysphoria cases and the lack of long-term data on the regret and outcomes of gender transition. Recap by Tammy AI with useful timestamps for busy people =)

[@hugoanson2135]

Thanyou so much.

[@johngill8407]

There is a driving force behind this gender stuff. It is deportation of the our free citizens From. The planet . When in college in the60s they had a term it was Z. P. G ZERO POPULATION GROWTH Alternative sex was one way to accomplish it.

[@johngill8407]

My word deportation was my word in the previous comment

[@johngill8407]

Thank you Jordan love your work John r gill

[@ericjr8695]

Not all heroes wear capes

[@annaheran8323]

As a parent of a desisted kid, I can assure you it was the scariest experience. I risked loss of custody to the state by not affirming and getting her regular, exploratory therapy. It was absolutely traumatizing.

[@jackiebulmer515]

My beautiful daughter transitioned. I'm so lost. Thank you for validating my trauma

[@janinec4444]

I am so sorry for what you are going through. 🙏🏼💕

[@DamedGhostStory]

I'll pray for you and your daughter Jackie

[@oklahomagal7541]

I'm with you, my 27 year old son , feel like he's a woman. So God help Me. I'm lost.

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

The hell these people are going to go through when they finally come to the realization that they were indoctrinated and unnecessarily mutilated themselves is going to be unimaginable.

[@sixela2268]

Well, I hope your now son is happy, I understand wanting to have what you're used to, but well, maybe them doing this is for their best? I really do not know as I have no idea who you are or who your son is, but are they happier now that they have transitioned? Isn't that what's important?

[@davebarbadillo]

Dear Dr. Peterson your care for the wellbeing of humanity is truly heartwarming. Thank you.

[@ruthhorowitz7625]

If only humanity cared that much

[@LeelooMinai]

If you are fooled by this charlatan, your skills at evaluating intentions of people are abysmal. You are talking about a toxic person who works at Daily Wire, a political and ideological propaganda network full of grifters and Peterson is one of them.

[@djbabbotstown]

Indeed. When she revealed that monster had been abusing the twins I let out an audible oof. Like I’d been punched in the stomach.

[@juansaloom]

And he proved it more when he hosted Netenyaho, super caring and very genuine person

[@rafajen1]

Please pray for us here in NZ .. it’s truly madness 😢

[@catherinedavidson1661]

Thank you Dr Grosman! You have integrity, morals, you are honest, brave and highly intelligent. Both intellectually and emotionally.

[@debbietodd8547]

Thank you for talking about this, I am taking the time to sit and listen to this in its entirety because I am a grandparent watching a grandchild go through this nightmare (ROGD) and watching my poor daughter try to navigate this as well. She feels there is nowhere to turn because all the councellors have been told to support the kids! I have found myself recently jumpy every time I call anyone a he or she anymore because I may have go it wrong and offended and this makes me so very angry. This world is like a bad dream you can't wake up from these days.

[@faithf5846]

🙏🙏praying for you and your family. Keep strong ask God for wisdom.

[@chantellehoffman6844]

That is the perfect description “a bad dream you can’t wake up from”. It scares me every time my son leaves the house that he might get influenced and come home in a dress. It’s truly frightening.

[@scapps8173]

I agree with you. I know one person who is changing over and I switch between what I know is true and what they look like now. It is messing up our minds too. Can you imagine what young children are feeling like? God help us all.

[@autumnrose6373]

I work full time as a nurse. My husband has decreased his hours. We've cut back as much as possible spending. All so we can homeschool and keep our child out of this mess of the school system. We devoted to doing whatever it takes and believe God will give us the strength and make a way for us to continue doing this bc we feel very strongly that He is calling us to do this.

[@rachelseo319]

🙏

[@fonnyjootball512]

lol

[@TheNephilim101]

Amen 🙏 I am also homeschooling. No more government brainwashing indoctrination public school camps for my kids or grandkids. Free at last !

[@ZacharyDial]

My plan too.

[@treece01]

I believe you are correct in putting your trust in God to do everything possible to protect your children. My husband and I did it the entire time our kids were at home, it was pointless for me to work, half of my salary would go to daycare and over my dead body was I gonna pay somebody else to raise my kids. God will make a a very clear road for you, He always does. We didn’t have everything we wanted, but we had everything we needed ALL THE TIME! You are doing the right thing!

[@lucilleli9529]

As a medical student, this woman is inspiring and I hope to emulate her courage if/when I have to confront the damage and lies the medical community has been perpetuating.

[@blk5124]

Hold your ground Doctor. We'll need as many of you, who do not force and pressure in the direction of transition, as possible. 👍

[@katryna1960]

I am also a medical student. If your campus is anything like mine, I wish you luck in navigating the minefield that is talking about the transgender children issue.

[@veddiinspires]

As a counselor in training I share your sentiment.

[@katadam2186]

Look up some of the recent speakers they’ve had at Hillsdale covering medical subjects

[@Dragonologist]

You'll fall in line like the rest of them. The money will persuade you to turn a blind eye. This is the state of our reality. You will see all the others around you being willfully ignorant and become just like them.

[@kabo0m]

Dr Miriam Grossman is so knowledgeable and compassionate and sincere. I am so glad Jordan Peterson had her on. I want to here more. I had heard of David before and what she says is true but she added even more details I did not know. I have been listening to this so intently and am glad I tuned in!

[@fasiltekola144]

Thank you for your courage DR Miriam Grossman , for protecting the Truth .

[@LauraBeckerReal]

Thank you for interviewing Dr. Grossman, Jordan. As a de-transitioner, she has been a helpful advocate, and I am honored to be included in her research and books. Thank you for giving her time to speak on her knowledge and listen to her analysis.

[@ren8240]

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on support from friends & family & if there is anything in particular during the early stages of your transition that in hindsight you think would've been helpful for you to hear? Or would you say that nothing anybody could've said would've made any difference to your decision to go ahead with transitioning?

[@cynarainman7117]

Funny seeing you in these comments, as I just read your essay reposted by Holly Math Nerd. Small world!! Great essay btw, been thinking about it a lot!

[@LauraBeckerReal]

@@cynarainman7117 That's awesome!

[@she_sings_delightful_things]

❤️

[@Isabella66Gracen]

❤ Much love to you.

[@burdeo2313]

My stepdaughter started to go down this path during Covid. They made these kids scared to go outside and socialize, and their whole personality was brought to them by TikTok. She would shop in the boy section for clothes and also had a not-so-secret girlfriend. 3 years later, she’s girly as can be and has a not-so-secret boyfriend. As soon as we got her into sports and out of the house and off her phone, she snapped back to herself. That’s how it should be for all kids. Instead, they’re being sterilized and mutilated and medicalized with no way out.

[@seanm7539]

Yeah I think that the one thing that might save these kids is just to get them out get them socializing when the pandemic is pretty much over take them to get involved in sports weightlifting really anything to get them out of the house and off the phones

[@lormaeris]

How did you manage to get her away from phone? Please inspire me 😀

[@BlissfulBombshells]

I have Twin teenagers. A Girl & a Boy, a True GIFT from God!!! During cov*d & even continuing to this day, they BOTH have PRESENTED AS CONFUSED regarding their genders & their sexuality. This CANNOT be anything other than the social contagion that is this EVIL "trans agenda"!!! The MAJORITY of their peers are confused as well. What WE NEED now is a PATHWAY TO HEALING to counteract the brainwashing of OUR YOUTH!!! I would greatly appreciate Jordan Peterson & well-educated others like him begin to help carve this road for the general public please.

[@josiekoch7589]

yep sounds like a completely normal female- slight attraction to females, more willing to bend gender roles. tiktok convinces girls that there is something “different” about this.

[@burdeo2313]

@@lormaeris had to take it away from her for several reasons. She had no other choice but to go without a phone and social media.

[@jrrodriguez8205]

This lady is brilliant and she is so passionate..so caring for those families. We pray for her and for her mental strength and resilient nature. Thnk you to Dr Peterson for interviewing this gem of a lady

[@TimeTravelingCrystal]

i appreciate you validating our trauma as parents - this has brought me so much relief. thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[@rachelsanger8629]

That's us. We're moaning, bleeding, dying, crying out, howling with grief, traumatised. What a relief to hear someone say it. Thank you Dr Miriam 😢

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

@@leetka333. There are some very good medications for that now.

[@dejanee07]

Oh Lordy… you have been brainwashed by the fairytale stuff. U believe in soul mates and “manifesting” too? Ha! 😂👌🏾

[@marymitchell4617]

@@leetka333. ok, fine. You're entitled to believe that, as I am entitled to believe what I believe. Except, I'm not allowed to, not anymore. How about love & acceptance for people who are FORCED to accept your belief, and to REPEAT your beliefs, or else....what about families who are FORCED to accept, in essence, the loss of their child to gender ideology, their son is now their daughter, no questions or concerns allowed. Where is the love & support for them? Or detransitioners? Or Christians. No. Trans are the most protected group in the world, & it's no secret..we are forced to comply, through legislation, societal pressure & brute force. Maybe that's not you. Ok, then, spread the word. We don't force our religion down your throat, please don't force yours down ours, & trans ideology IS a religion, complete with true believers & fundamentalist beliefs.

[@Orcinus1967]

@@leetka333. It does help. Unfortunately, once the hormone therapy starts, much of it is irreversible. Then there is the physical mutilation of a sex change operation. You can call it "Gender Affirming Care" all you want. They're cutting body parts off. This takes things from the spiritual world into the physical world. It can have an effect on the soul.

[@doctortube4232]

I am a 45 year old heterosexual female. When I was about 6-7, I went through a phase where I wanted to be called boy names. I was/am a tomboy and it made sense to me at the time that I had a boy name. My parents played along when they remembered and after a week or so, I was past that phase. I was never very feminine in that I have always been a t-shirt and jeans kind of gal, loved playing in the woods, motorcycles, fishing, etc. and and I’ve always gotten along much better with males. But, I’ve never questioned my sexuality or gender. I have an incredibly healthy relationship with my children and with my husband and I am so thankful that this madness wasn’t a thing when I was a kid or I’m sure I would have gotten dragged to some sort of “gender affirming care” and my life would have been destroyed.

[@apurvaaryan7984]

​​@@petersaysthings r u woke leftist? There is an issue and there are victims so your point is invalid. Don't know how much will have to suffer to justify this malpractice. Interestingly your point is tackled by Dr Peterson 1:29:24 Why the concern is real .

[@Empathiclistener]

@Pav: A couple of sessions with a 'gender-affirming' counsellor can now give the go ahead for dangerous hormones on the way to butchery for young people whose executive brain function is far from adult. They are not informed about the real consequences but are fed dishonest claims about research suggesting they will be happier and less suicidal (which they may well be for a euphoric while). Parents may even not be informed under the guise of patient confidentiality. The counsellors are often people who have 'transitioned' themselves and lack awareness of how their assessments are colored by their own need for reassurance about the radical choices they made. 'Transitioning' is always pretense. No matter how convincing the transitioned person looks and behaves their hormonal and surgical changes can only ever be cosmetic while the vast majority of their body and brain characteristics remain consistent with their birth sex. Perhaps one day genetic engineering could change that, but that may not be realistic because by the time someone thinks they might be 'in the wrong body', indeed by the time a pre-school child appears to show opposite-sex behaviour and even by the time of birth, that body has already developed according to its existing genetic basis.

[@nancy95988]

Oh gosh, I Totally relate with you because I was the same… if someone would have taken my tomboyish as me being confused about who I was “really feeling “ and taken my womanhood/motherhood away from me 😮I would be absolutely devastated!!! I am still very much a tomboy even today… I absolutely loved being a wife, mother, grandmother ❤ I loved being able to nurse my children and feel So bad that So many women today and in the future will Never be able to experience these beautiful bonding times? I couldn’t even begin to imagine the devastation and loss today… I am 62yrs old… thank God 🙏🏼 I grew up back in the day!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@TheWestlandgirl]

Guaranteed you would of been swept up by these predators, protected from ANYTHING except child mutilation and sterilization. Your poor parents helpless in protecting you. You being trained to treat them as your enemy also. 😢

[@faithinjesus7817]

I am also hetero female. Started puberty at 9/10 and hated it. I too have always gotten along with males more than females. At the time I knew why I got along better with males. I have been lucky to have many extremely good men in my life and other than my mom and a couple of other females the rest were terrible. I had 7 aunts & 2 uncles. I never understood girls my age and didn't really understand them when I got older. Even though I am very 'girly' I still love doing tomboy things. And it doesn't make me a boy. I too never questioned my gender. It's pretty simple. I love being a woman but guys just do things that are more fun.

[@shelley5435]

Thank you for acknowledging the trauma and grief that parents feel. I cried when I hear Dr Grossman talk about how traumatic it is. I’ve never heard anyone acknowledge the deep pain and suffering of the parents. It is real, it is with me everyday and I feel it will never resolve. Thank God my husband feels the same as me and we support each other, but other than him, I haven’t told anyone that my 16 year old daughter says she’s trans. I feel shame, and I fear for her future. I fear being attacked or cancelled if I speak the truth. We’ve pulled her out of school and are trying to maintain a relationship while exposing her to the lies of the gender cult. I am going to start showing her detransitioner videos with the hope that they will resonate with her. I pray for her everyday, and all the families who are devastated by this.

[@user-ms5kr7tk7q]

We need more people, doctors, educators like this two. We need more people, doctors, educators like this two.

[@Hussman493]

I'm soon to be a father this year. With all of the dangers out there in the world, it's depressing to see the doctors themselves are a bigger threat than schoolyard bullies.

[@serpentines6356]

Congratulations! There are very good doctors, people in the professions questioning this ideology. More, and more are speaking up. A lot of the younger people are easily duped. Although, I sure see plenty of the older ones easily going along too. Some people, like the fem teen boy, and other "trans" people I talked to the other day are all gung ho, and happy, so they just can't see the dark underbelly of what is going on. Unfortunately, many parents can't either. You are way ahead of the game, more than they are if that makes you feel any better. Stay close, as in emotionally close to your child. That will help if they feel they trust you enough if something is going on with them, and can talk to you. Good values, morals, etc. Look at it this way. It could be much worse. You could be in Dresden in WW2, or in Europe during a bubonic plague. Or, China during the Khan conquering, r*ping and pillaging. Ghenghis, and his male heirs...Well, the Khan DNA has the most decendents in the world today. Enjoy Dadhood! 🙏 ☘️

[@TrueDarkness458]

Homeschooling.

[@michaelfrazier9003]

Homeschooling, very limited access to cell phones etc. find a sane church and join it. Most importantly children need good control. Unlimited freedom is very unhealthy!

[@Refiningforge]

@@michaelfrazier9003like sheep and a shepherd

[@melreiner8422]

The best I can hope for you and your family is that you have all learned to trust God and to pray to Jesus for help and guidance during these dark times. If your family has faith, this can be so powerful to overcome the evil that is polluting the minds of those who fee weak.

[@lynnv4570]

I experienced this trauma when my daughter came back from college thinking she was “pan” and began “dating” a “man” who did not disclose that “he” was trans. On the second date her “boyfriend” asked if she had Midol for menstrual cramps. Thanks to God and many prayers my daughter is rejecting her earlier life choices.

[@cherylrobinson7876]

I am traumatized just reading this. I hope she finds her self and peace soon.

[@azoreysaint9636]

Wow! Good for her awakening

[@NiaLaLa_V]

@@OfAngelsAndAnarchist Hateful atheism has no place in this conversation. We have real problems unfolding allover the world that impacts many many previously protected groups. I am an atheist too, but this is exactly why I don't hang out with most of you. Everything is a chance to slam believers for so many of you and the rest of us sincerely hope you get the therapy you clearly need. #standingforwomen

[@lynnv4570]

The prayers were for her to reject the relationship that made her uncomfortable and prayers for my patience for the many long conversations between us. It took 3 months for her to break up the relationship and she very soon fell for a “traditional man” that treats her the way she deserves. The new person does not ask her to keep secrets

[@ChicDystopia]

She is praying and worried about her CHILD, which is how the love our "Sky Daddy" manifests into this world. The works of the wickedness also manifest here, which is what she is battling and praying against in the spiritual realm. I LOVE our Sky Daddy😝! Thank you Jesus for your clarity and Holy Spirit for guiding this woman and her daughter 🙏🏼 ❤

[@StriderDSC]

I'm a new parent and to see this happening in schools, hormones injected or kids being told they're something, especially without parental consent in some instances, is absolutely terrifying.

[@amani1096]

Migrate if you can

[@besmajubran5244]

That should be illegal, especially without parental consent. Unbelievable!

[@MontuckyGirl75]

I wish to help families like you are talking about. De-transitioners and families, pre and post transition as well. I need help to do this so I don’t get sued and lose my livelihood as a mental health care professional. My extended family has been struck with this and it completely derailed my family as far as I can see.

[@Joy2Life333]

My husband’s father was most likely bipolar. Our 20 year old daughter is diagnosed bipolar. There is depression in both of our families. Our 16 year old daughter has been hospitalized 5 times in 2 and a half years due to self harm because “she is a boy in a girl’s body”. And since I haven’t followed the doctor’s suggestions of taking “him” to a gender clinic or calling “him” by the “correct” pronoun, it will be my fault if “he” dies. Or so I’m told. We need to stop telling these kids that transitioning or dying are their only options.

[@susanawright7757]

Stay strong, keep keeping on. Don't let them steal her away.

[@jcimsn8464]

They are using false suicide data and threats

[@beefandchicken]

So sorry. Best wishes for you and the family. 👍❤️

[@adamwithouteve8691]

It's not bipolar, depression or any other title given to these scenarios. This is a spiritual war and these evil spirits are using individuals to do their wickedness while destroying people at the same time. Pray hard, keep the commandments fast often and grow your faith daily 🙏🏾 These demons can't handle the righteousness of God.

[@shannonbrown7488]

You never solve internal issues externally. God bless, stay safe!

[@Orcinus1967]

As an adoptee I was glad to learn the phrase "disenfranchised grief". In my 56 years I'd never heard that phrase. For me, my birth parents might as well have been dead, but no one recognized (including me) my grief at their loss. NO one acknowledged my loss. Instead they said "aren't you grateful you have 2 parents who love you". The same is going on here. The parents have lost their child. The child is now in the hands of social media, and the medical community, including the pharmaceutical industry. Their child is now part of an experiment. And they are left to wonder, what did they do wrong raising their child.

[@abigailhathaway5331]

They may have done nothing wrong, it is this unseen force of conformity that is magnetizing individuals into something they are not...

[@pogo6543211111111]

Chilhood leaves scares no matter who you are, do not over think it. If childrens did not take serious mental notes from parents we not have made it threw evolution.

[@Eve.n.t_horizon]

i always though, why no one recognized that exact loss you speak about. In fact, even if im not in the demographic, im scared to even speak about it, so i can only imagine what it would be for someone living it.

[@qine6559]

Please tell me about disenfranchised grief, if you may. I am adopted. This is totally new concept to me. But I know that when I was just a small little baby I was abandoned to an orphanage. Struggle somewhat with fear of rejection and had some anxieties leading to physical pains and eating disorders. Might there be some relation between adoption and anxiety? People around me tell me I must be so grateful. 😅

[@LilacLees]

Do you think having an open adoption with regular contact with your biological parents would have helped you cope with this grief? Adoptive mom asking…we visit birth parents about once a year and FaceTime for holidays and birthdays. I worry about our child coming to terms with his placement for adoption. I just want our child to know it was all out of love. But I know it is a loss and there will be grief. I always tell our child that we the (adoptive parents) are the lucky ones and we are grateful to get the privilege of being entrusted as parents

[@nadinefontaine7110]

Thank you Dr. Miriam for speaking this truth out! And giving counsel to parents in such grief and trauma. God bless your work. My heart aches for all in this situation.

[@hardcore4jc]

Love you, Dr. Grosman! Ever since I saw What Is A Woman last year, you have been one of the few heroines in this dark madness that is trans ideology! Thank you for being bold and standing up for what is right! I am 2 years from completing my master’s degree and becoming an LMFT candidate. No matter what, I will NEVER bow to this ideology. I will, as you and Dr. Peterson are doing, fight for and stand up for what is right and will protect our nation’s children at every cost!! Thank you, both!!!

[@v0rteks644]

My sister has been affected by this culture as well. In her early 20s, she announced to the family that she identified as non binary. I still have no idea what to make of it. She kicked my father and I to the curb about 5 years ago, so there's really nothing I can do. Last I heard, she's been taking blockers and testosterone and had her breasts removed. She was never tomboyish or masculine in any way when we were small. She and my other sister always had pink and purple beds, barbies, etc... The one practical reason I can give for this shift in her perspective is that she's always been easily influenced by others. It breaks my heart that she'll probably never understand that she's been manipulated by the cultural zeitgeist, and even if she does, it's already too late to return to normal life. I love you, Claire. I hope one day you can accept yourself the way you are and embrace the name our parents gave you. EDIT: There's a big difference between facts/evidence, and conjecture/assumption. Some of you need to go back to school before making arguments.

[@v0rteks644]

@J C thanks, but I don't think that's gonna solve the problem. I'd rather rely on people's ability and willingness to change themselves, than hope for a miracle.

[@v0rteks644]

@Matt Rayner Thanks man, I sure hope so. And hopefully before she does any more permanent damage to her body

[@suzannecampbell2260]

This world is totally screwed up. As well as the Doctor's. Who push this kinda stuff.

[@v0rteks644]

@Suzanne Campbell agreed! Gotta wonder which powerful people are pushing this garbage, since our infrastructure seems infested with it these days. This is all going to plan for somebody. We just need to find out who!

[@angela_somanythings5670]

I'm sorry for your loss as much as hers. Claire is such a nice name. I will consider it if my daughter is a girl because it also runs in my family. Just be the best sibling that you can for her whenever you see her and she'll appreciate you when being there for her if she ever needs you...

[@lcweave2016]

My niece told my sister 5 years ago at the age of 15 that she was really a “male” and attracted to girls. My sister went to a therapist shortly after this disclosure to deal with her shock and depression, and the therapist said to her “most parents would have accepted this by now.” As a therapist myself I was horrified and furious that a therapist would discount feelings and condescend to a parent in this way. I advised my sister to immediately find a new therapist who had sensitivity, understanding and the ability to provide ethical and empathetic support.

[@clairebordeaux]

Your sister needs to do more than that, she needs to homeschool!

[@ananse77]

​@@clairebordeaux Homeschool a 20 year old?

[@clairebordeaux]

@@ananse77 Sorry I just saw that part. It’s probably too late then.

[@Lifeafter40]

An old school psychologist would probably very easily allow her to come out as lesbian woman or a masculine lesbian (aka butch) without ever stating she was a man that needs to transition into a man.

[@taramcgavan7654]

Get a different therapist!!!

[@selenehenry3040]

She is 100% correct. Omg! She just wrapped up my life for the past 5 years. Except i been fighting on my own. I have had no help. Tried therapist. He just wanted to push the trans. I stopped that. Been throwing so much info at her. I think i somewhat got through. But she is still holding on to the ideology. Just shifted. This has hurt an already hurting family so much. I dont think we can get back what we lost to this.

[@9395gb]

Talk to a lawyer.

[@tmc115]

I don’t have a trans child or anything but I just wanted to speak about the Termanology of demonized grief. I had an extremely emotionally abusive childhood and I was told that to express any sadness or discomfort or to just not be completely happy all the time was a terrible thing. All my emotions were demonized. And I just thought it was amazing that you spoke about that bc that helps me kind of understand why I felt so miserable for so long.

[@brianamariamcginley-downey5958]

During my bachelors in psychology at Penn State I was unfortunately REQUIRED to take a gender studies course in 2010 and we learned about John Money, and learned that gender was a "spectrum". No one would argue or question anything our young 20 something professor said, we were a bunch of young women in the class who just wanted to get an A and get to our lunch break. Looking back that class and many like them were a JOKE. It is indoctrination, I come from an immigrant mother who relied heavily on faith and family and I escaped the mental prison they created with her help.

[@JaneDoe-ym7de]

I was forced to learn about him too, John Money, the child groomer who is the king of gender bender psychology. A completely unethical and I would argue, clinically insane man.

[@Orcinus1967]

I got my first taste of Gender BS with the advent of the Politically Correct movement in the late 90's . I went back to school in CA in 2000. HAD to take a course on Gender. Write about how I knew I was a man. (Cause I have a dick and balls?) I'm 56. Not quite a boomer but close. Really? I need to write about this stuff? Cis wasn't even in the lexicon at that point. Not a word anybody knew of anyway. Where we have come from there is astonishing. I've NEVER been good a math. With enough tutoring, anyone should be able to pass algebra. I know I've done it 3 times. Calculus...uhm...point being in college I couldn't get enough math tutoring. There wasn't ever enough time to read everything professors put on the syllabus, never mind what I wanted to read as well. This is really what we are going to mandate for students? I BS'd my way through the gender shit then, did as little as possible. Without writing "I like my balls. What you do with yours is your problem". Then I got myself over to the math lab. I can't imagine what it's like for the "Gender Class 001" today. JFC.

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

College is practically a joke.

[@brianamariamcginley-downey5958]

It is disconcerting how the "professors" never questioned any of his theories. I get early psychology was the wild west. We don't take what alot of early psychologists did as doctrine today so why John Money? The field is littered with an overexess of empathy out of a need for overcorrection of our past sins.

[@blankslatemedia8552]

I also want to point out some disturbing facts about John Money. In pursuit of his gender studies legacy, he perform sex changes on children (infamous case of two twins, look up David Reimer), had children carry out sexual acts with each other AND photographed them while doing so as well as supporting pedophilic relations, such as a child above the age of 10 having an erotic attraction towards an adult. He believed they should be allowed to engage in a sexual relationship. Not really the type of individual you want writing the rule book on gender.

[@marieperrin7333]

I remember when I was 5 or 6, I told my mom I wanted to be a boy. She asked me why. I told her I liked playing with the old cars and climbing trees just like my brother. She gave me the best advise, she said I could do anything my brother did , but I was a girl and that's the wat it is. I am glad I was raised during a time when parents had common sense and would tell the truth. Times have changed so dangerously that parents sometimes are now afraid to tell their children the truth.

[@madeleinegrayson8372]

Worse, some parents are pushing young children to be trans.

[@ClintLock1]

true. kids can handle almost any truth better than adults. but kids are trusting, and most can be persuaded to believe pretty much anything, at least for a short time. and it's the lies and manipulation that will damage them, make them feel inner chaos as the lessons they've been taught encounter reality... best to answer kids questions truthfully every time, no noble lies.

[@DCV321]

Several years ago after my daughter's divorce, she decided to have a big New Years Eve party. I brought a ton of fireworks. My two grandsons had the time of their lives setting off bottle rockets and supermarket odds and ends. After it was all over I was sitting by the firepit with a little girl who was twirling a burning stick around. I have two daughters and two granddaughters and they never, ever played with fire, so I took an interest in this little girl and advised her how to be safe. Fast forward a couple of years and that little girl is now presenting as a young boy and a very good one at that... but his family is not without turmoil and I just wish that she had asked me that New Years Eve if she could set off some fireworks too.

[@ladyspace6365]

My father raised us 2 girls to do all the things he loved to do; inviting us to enjoy the same things. He never pigeonholed us or excluded us b/c we were girls. Sure we were kind of tomboyish but it was important IMO and we never considered the things we did to not be for girls. I'm sorry but I feel in some way or another this lands on the parents. They are either raising their kids in a skewed way that leads them to lack of self-assurance or are absent enough to let others groom them w/ this narrative.

[@ClintLock1]

@@ladyspace6365 exactly it's t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ *adults imposing ideas of gender on the kids... kids don't care they will be a girl one minute and a giraffe the next.

[@punchion]

I am mesmerized by the complete common sense of these two amazing people! Finally, voices of reason amongst the insanity!!

[@millirue]

Wonderful interview! Thank you Drs Peterson and Grossman for unapologetically speaking truth

[@lessmore444]

Appreciate her persistence in holding the conversation on her desired track of offering voice for the demonized parental casualties of this nightmare. JP has progressed in his style of discussion by allowing his guests less interruption & more leeway to express themselves.

[@XENON3120]

I notice this also, agree.

[@teacat55]

Her track is one thing, but her (lack of) speed and repetition is a whole other thing.

[@rebeccabisangwa7000]

@@teacat55 funny enough I like the repetition coz it symbolizes consistency in what she is saying. Upon hearing the viewpoints of those in favor of gender ideology they tend to be all over the place, abusive and never seem to give clear concise responses to fundamental questions. It's a rollercoster that frankly gives away the sandcastle that it is. Dr Peterson also sort of has his own repetitive moments but as I said there is a consistent thread to their thought processes that makes it.... sensible and can stand the test of time if that makes sense.

[@lloydgush]

I think it's more like guests have learned to assert themselves with JP. He has a history of anxiety and prone to monologues.

[@feddedevries8890]

My theory is that it is less about JP getting better at it, but that it depends on the degree to which the conversation partner can hold his/her own. The Frans de Waal interview is telling in this regard: De Waal pushes back and lays out his own track and JP obviously respects him as a match.

[@heather333]

Two highly intelligent, compassionate, and courageous professionals... saving the world one conversation at a time.

[@herzl67]

One conversation at a time ---a perfect line in this challenging and uphill battle.

[@carriesmith9943]

More people have to speak up against this radical movement!

[@patrickwebster9153]

This book she has coming out may be the single most important piece of literature made in the decade.

[@1sola1verita]

Listen also to the president of Uganda. He has shocked the West by openly refusing to comply with their nonsense pro LQBST agenda!

[@claudiapost-schultzke7216]

The only way to do.

[@jacobmacdonald4713]

Prayers to all the families navigating these trying times 🙏❤️🙏❤️

[@wizzzjer]

This hits hard. I've never thought about parental trauma but it is surely there! Thank you for naming it and giving a voice to those parents. I don't have children yet, but for a past few years I started to question myself: what would I do if my future child decides to transition? And I was experiencing an unknown fear just thinking of that. Now I understand it better.

[@rickb1387]

Another important and valid presentation. I’m actually traumatized and extremely angry about society’s acceptance of this sick ideology.

[@jovanikic1]

True! No one is willing to stand up to this because you are immediately called racist or transhobic.

[@sixela2268]

but it isn't an ideology, it's just people being themselves

[@eddie7126]

I’m living my worst nightmare with a 17 year old son claiming he’s a non binary one day and a girl the next day. A social worker recently visited my home and asked would you rather have a dead son… I told her I love him but will not under any circumstances affirm something that’s straight from the pits of HELL.

[@karinnayler6698]

I'm sorry you're going through this. It breaks my heart. Praying for your son

[@eddie7126]

@@karinnayler6698 thank you!

[@StaryzHelios]

The New World Order's top agenda is to depopulation the world. They are coming to every single teenager and children, spreading gender confusion virus via social media, media and community causing more destruction. My suggestion is you have to make sure he understand that what cause his 'confusion trouble' is because he having mental illness due to exposure of lbgt agenda in social media. first he need to realize in that area and wake up. Make sure to check his social media who he is follow, stop netflix subcrition, unsubcribe lbgt channel in youtube, go to country side where comminity focus on reality and not social media, religious community where moral in form.

[@Rapunzel808]

Well social workers have no life experience and no right to speak about anything except maybe bring some free food from the food bank

[@v0rteks644]

I hope things get better for you and your child, my friend. These are terrifying times. The attack on the family unit in the West is having more success than I ever imagined. It seems that people are getting sick of being indoctrinated, and I hope that we are again on the brink of a cultural shift. One in favor of common sense and acceptance of the self.

[@chrl4180]

This interview is a jewel of knowledge and truth. Thank you Dr. Grossmann and Dr. Peterson.

[@LadyCaroline123]

What a pleasure to listen to articulate people who can speak so eloquently, unlike many politicians.

[@joannamcculloch8457]

What's going on right now is so utterly absurd. I can't get my head round it and makes me so deeply sad what is being imposed on our innocent, lovely children.

[@craigfowler7098]

I used to be a liberal, but after listening to this I have changed my mind. This social media driven nonsense has to stop. Thank you for opening my mind and enlightening me of these dangers. My heart goes out to all involved.

[@kbc1883]

Welcome to the ever-growing tribe of walk-away-ers! Those of us that used to be liberals who have come to see how insidious this all is have to catch our breath and recalibrate after our big wake up moments and it can be disconcerting. And it can be hard on relationships. But I think we can be a powerful group to help tip the scales back toward sanity. Welcome, welcome!

[@blk5124]

I would describe myself as moderate but in this society, in the U.S., it seemed like only liberals are ever listened to, regarded, treated with respect. I can tell you that if you deviate even ever so slightly from the liberal script, you'll be cut off like a Nazi extremist. Deviate anyway. Stick with the truth. 👍

[@jaymudd2817]

It's Leftist Totalitarianism not Liberalism.

[@blk5124]

@@jaymudd2817 you mean the social media is total leftist totalitarianism? That does sound spot on!

[@craigfowler7098]

@@blk5124 glad I joined the moderate club, truth is always the right path.

[@celestetori7705]

Dr. Grossman was very engaging, and I appreciated her detail on the subject and hilighting the struggle and pain parents are feeling.

[@jennifermiddleton9125]

Probably the best podcast ever, 2 intelligent professional legends speaking facts on this horrendous ideology. Thank you Jordan and Miriam ❤

[@TreeloreTV]

I am so grateful for your powerful interview. I have lost my Son’s family as I refused to call my beautiful granddaughter “Matt” as, at 14 decided she (Cecelia from birth) wants to be identified as a boy. They will not let me see my other 3 grandchildren either. When I first was told of her gender confusion, I attempted to request my daughter in law (Cecelia’s mother) read about de-transitioning and all the thousands of men and women who went through body altering surgery and hormones only to realize their mistake and desires to return to the gender of their birth… Because of my faith, even though I have not been judgmental at all whatsoever, they refer to me as the enemy, homophobic, etc. I have been devastated by this lose. I can only pray for some sort of breakthrough🙏🏼

[@MrsQ22]

Keep praying for your family. I prayed for you and your family just now. May Gods truth prevail and eyes opened and your family reunited. Good bless.

[@credenza1]

You are not homophobic. Myself, and most gays I know, have no time at all for the LGBTQ movement and its extremist ideas. We see it as an anti-gay, anti-woman cult.

[@rebeccainspiringhope4357]

So sorry! Praying for you! Your story is heartbreaking.

[@Love-Shar]

I will pray for you and your family as well 😔💔

[@sophiestephens5811]

Do not underestimate the power of prayer. Speak blessings over your family and pray for God to move in their lives and show them the truth.

[@kimpeterson4846]

Gender studies at a local university started this in my daughter's life. She no longer speaks to me. It is heartbreaking 💔

[@Andrina-fl9ef]

When she finds out the truth, it's likely she'll be back. Just keep the door open.

[@kimpeterson4846]

​@Andrina1901 my hope thanks 😊

[@laurenpeot846]

Just point her at Dr. John Money Encourage her to read that book from 1998 You both are in my prayers L

[@filipezalewska9382]

Oh God! Such a nightmare. Before this episode (and your comment), I never thought about the parents burden. I really hope (and will pray for it) that your daughter can take down this wall.

[@desleymendoza7445]

Mine as well. She is starting hormones and plans to remove her breasts. I will pray for your daughter as I pray for mine.

[@sarthakgupta290]

This was absolutely mind-opening!! Thank you so much Miriam Grossman!

[@RealBakedTahu]

This is the first time I've ever heard someone mention the siblings of trans kids. I almost wept just hearing a stranger acknowledge my suffering. And yes, my parents are traumatized and I wish I could do more to help them.

[@hadamerryweather577]

As a clinician, I am also traumatized by what my profession has done to blindly accept the claims of gender theory. We need to organize as clinicians and reclaim the sound theoretical frameworks that respect process and human development, and that do not promote medical sex change interventions to kids under the age 18. One better, under the age of 26. Additionally, I think with the now high number of detransitioners, it is important to do research around ACES or other premature exposures that led to gender dysphoria, but also, to qualify the detransitioners' points of realization that they made a regrettable mistake.

[@kerynfox4279]

I am a 62 year old women who has had a severe prolapse operation. Ten years later and I still having a lot of problems. Not able to pee or poop without strong medication. The surgeons broke my arthritis back during the operation. Which did not mend for five years. Contant infection flare ups. Not been able to have sex again.

[@hadamerryweather577]

@@kerynfox4279 May you be healed to optimal physical health.

[@metgirl5429]

@@kerynfox4279 this is just awful ….. I hope you can find the right help Look outside the box 🕊🙏🏻🕊

[@credenza1]

I have a family member with a daughter who has decided she is trans. Her mother has always used the children (daughters) in ways which express her ever-changing progressive obsessions, such as barefootedness in winter, wearing "poverty" clothing (when they could afford new clothes), food fads, etc. It was essentially child abuse masquerading as progressive social awareness. My belief is that the narcissism of the mother has led the children to understand that they have no value of themselves, but only insofar as they act as signifiers of the mother's wokeness. By "transitioning", the teenage girl achieves two things- she has an outlet (as a "male") to be rebellious and assertive (instead of perpetually suppressed by the mother), and at the same time receives the mother's attention by epitomizing wokeness in her trans identity. Needless to say, the (divorced) father is grief stricken and lives in permanent fear of being reported by the mother for one or another "transphobic" crimes.

[@boessheila50]

I totally agree. No Hormones and surgury until age 25/6. Then a good assessment on the patient. Before any cutting. Gender can be tricky. ...why not be very certain Life is tough enough without making a Gender transition mistake!!!

[@boristeka9515]

I share as an African occasionally observing what is happening in the western world and I am horrified by the destruction these kind of abject ideologies cause in families living there and happy African countries are kept from this thanks to our cultures and thought systems. So sorry for all these stressed families looking for a way out in such a predatory system

[@sweebos]

✌️😔

[@user-py2nz4qx8f]

A lot of us would like to be there!! thanks for sharing maybe it will wake some people up.

[@jodyculbertson5853]

Thank you so for you’re observation

[@HwoarangtheBoomerang]

As an American that hates all of this, I thank you for your concerns. Do not trust China in Africa. They are robbers!

[@jamedee4146]

"Predatory system" is a perfect description AND is likely the root/agenda from which all the problem(s) stems.

[@BladeStunner01]

It's so refreshing to have these types of conversations in a peaceful and respectful way

[@HumanityRisingNow]

Wow, what an important conversation. Thank you to both of these courageous professionals 🙏🙏🙏

[@jeannegalarneau7800]

As for grief, that is the first thing my heart felt when my 6th grade daughter told me(in letter form) that she was transgender and felt she was a boy. THANK GOD she is now a junior in high school living in reality of who she is, I got lucky. At the time this was happening, all I could do was take a small step back and see where this was going to go. I watched her chop her hair off, join the school LGBQ+ clubs, and try discussing hormones and surgery with me. I put my foot down on ANYTHING permanent until she was of age. Which she actually did agree, This was just before they started to threaten DCYF on the parents, but it was being spoken about. Wouldn't have matter to me anyway, I would have fought them till my death. All that is besides the point...the poor parents of these children that fall completely into this evil agender. I know for myself to hear this from my daughter. I was immediately grief stricken. I felt I had literally lost my daughter. Only daughter. Could not see it as gaining a son, only an imposter hijacking this beautiful, precious soul, who is in no way shape or form at any level of growth or maturity to decide to make such life changing actions. These thoughts should be the furthist thing away from what should be going on in these kids' heads. I feel so horrible for these family's, our society and the humane race. In all our so-called evolution, this is where we are today?? How has this become the case? So there may be some anomalies, it's certainly not the norm. There is gonna be some major blowback when these kids are grown and realize what the hell happened to them, and wonder where all the adults were. I hope they can forgive the parents because they got trapped. Kinda seems like whatever side of the fence you stand, you'll end up losing your kids. If you stand against them transitioning, you'll be demonized by the school, state, nation, and medical "professionals,"not to mention by your child. If you do go along with gang, good chance your child is going to wonder why you allowed and went along with the slaughter. The worse part of this is how its gaining momentum..day by day. There is so much more in this life that we should be doing. This not progress, why are so many people supporting this agenda? I could go on and on, and I am just a barley high school educated very average, down to earth proud and loving mom. It's not hard to see the light. Please let's all wake up from this nightmare

[@gedofgont1006]

You sound very well educated to me. Your story is both powerful and deeply moving. Thank you for sharing it.

[@thecamillarose9806]

When they can't even tell you straight up and write it in a letter, I find that actions often speak louder than words

[@nanoobis]

How could you allow your child to continue going to a school that was clearly indoctrinating her? Did you not pay attention to what was happening in your child’s life? The entertainment and friends?

[@hollytyner5155]

​@@nanoobis theres probably not a lot of schools that aren't drinking the same Kool aid.

[@nanoobis]

@@hollytyner5155 can confirm. Currently about to pull our child out of school because of this T nonsense.

[@xxcherryblossom193]

I’m 19 and terrified for my friend, I feel she is close to transitioning. She’s always been tall and on the masculine side, but never expressed discomfort with her gender. Now in college, her new friend group all seem to have this agenda, and she is becoming like them. I wish I could send this video to her without losing our friendship.

[@petitsacados]

Might be worth losing the friendship if there's even a chance she'll listen. Easy for me to say, I know, not having any risk. Just saying, gotta weigh what you'll regret more: silence or speaking. Wish you the very best and so, so sorry to hear of your friend.

[@LCC7214]

You have been asked to do something far beyond your years. Protect her before its to late. Even if you lose her at least you stood for the right the truth. The darkness that awaits her is not good its evil. Save her.

[@FreedomAndJustice4All]

PRAY for her & SPEAK the TRUTH in love, without accusing or judging. You could be the one who rescues her & saves her from untold trauma.

[@mvv700]

Go into the conversation from her side is what I would say. When someone is indoctrinated into an extremist harmful ideology, be it extreme religion practices, extreme social or conservative ideologies, the worst you can do (from my small, personal experience at least) is go into the conversation head on since it makes them feel rejected and they will shut themselves from you. When you find the chance, explore the topic together. She might bring the positives that attract her to this specific thing, and you can be the one that raises concerns and questions, while also zoning in on what it is that makes her feel interested in this. If you go into the topic with interest and raise concerns and questions without being judgmental, I think you have the best chance of opening up dialogue that can lead into showing these kind of videos as well. Now of course Mr. Peterson might have a pretty negative name in her eyes. So I'd avoid shooting these videos directly at first. But you can most definitely take information from here and funnel it through in the form of questions, or things you read and found interesting to consider. I dont think there's a 1 size fits all way to deal with these situations. So don't take my suggestion as 'yeah I'll do that'-blindly, it hasn't always worked for me, but it's made me more successful in engaging in a non-hostile conversation. You're a better judge of how you friend is and what she will react and listen to. But I figured just in case I'd say it if it might be something worth thinking about, coming into it from the point of 'taking interest'. I hope you'll find a way to talk to her about it. If she will transition there's a good chance she's about to ruin her entire life. BUT, if you don't manage, don't blame yourself for it. This isn't your fault, and at the end of the day she is not your responsibility. Everyone at the end of the day is responsible for the choices they make - and you can only do so much to influence that. More so even when the law and morality about a subject conflict.

[@milliekallio6424]

Speak up and tell her how much you love her. I was an awkward large hairy faced young girl about 12 ish. I was strong and confident about myself and had no idea how homely I was. I had a lot of trauma as a child loss and sadness so that was what God dealt me and He gave me a best friend an incredible beautiful girl she was. I loved her with all my heart. It’s worth the honesty. God Bless. We are still friends yet thousands of miles separate us we pick up like we are still15.

[@susanstevenson9619]

I work in a childcare setting and am so grateful to hear you both speak. I hope more people stand up to this lunacy.

[@alanalycan3986]

I have a meeting soon with my child's headmaster to object to the school teaching her sex education at age 8. Please send me well wishes for the meeting 🙏 I have prepared paperwork for the meeting and will accept a fine, I will tell them I am prepared to take her out of sch unauthorized just for those two lessons They even mentioned pornograpy and 'role play ' BETWEEN THE KIDS will be explained to the children !!!!!!!!!!!

[@GrammyPammy961]

Thank you both for having the COURAGE to speak out. 🙏❤️

[@danamalon3992]

Sitting in my cubicle at work trying not to make it obvious that i am sobbing. My 2nd of 5 children decided he was a woman 4 yrs ago, in his early 20s. Then 2 yrs ago, he announced to me that my youngest (12 yr old) daughter is now my son. I refused. My three grown children have now completely disowned me. The grief would be overwhelming, but I have no choice, but to stuff it and deal with it all in little chunks. I dont even sleep well because I dream of them all night. Hearing someone say I have a right to grieve is freeing.

[@anniebeeee]

Oh I am so sorry, and so sad for you.😪😪😪

[@danamalon3992]

@anniebeeee but, just this weekend, my beautiful little daughter referred to herself as my daughter for the first time in 2 years. I was screaming with joy inside. Small victories.

[@anniebeeee]

@@danamalon3992 keep the faith that things will come right. I wish that for you all.x

[@JesusLovesTheLost]

​@@danamalon3992 Jesus loves you and your beautiful family, this toxic ideology will pass. Many will turn away from the lie and return to their loved ones. Have peace and be healed in Jesus' name amen!

[@danamalon3992]

@jonathanhaggai3231 thank you. I thank God daily for the work He is doing in their lives and that He is bigger than any of this. I dedicated them to Him from the day they were born. He loves them even more than me.

[@peoplelover2024]

Our oldest son (29 years old) has demonized our grief over his twisted choice to try and be a woman. We were never given the chance to even wrap our heads around what was happening. No questions allowed. No conversation. You WILL call me this or else I will cease all contact. Before we could even answer - he ceased all contact. This madness and trauma is real.

[@neffybaby2273]

😢 💔

[@TradBarbie]

I'd gladly cut off all contact. If you're not Christian or at least behave Christian then I have no interest in speaking to you.

[@charlesg7926]

It’s demonic. People just gotta get our kids TF out of public schools. And vote Republican/Trump at any cost. They’ll lie about him to keep him out. They don’t want him disrupting the school boards

[@tiffanymclean684]

My oldest son also at 29. It's horrible. There seems to be no help for this mental illness. He is obviously not himself and hurting. Yet he was given hormones with serious health risks by a "doctor" he found online. Self diagnosed, pills prescribed.

[@goldencity777]

My daughter came out to us about 10 years ago. We have never affirmed her in her decision. We have loved her to the point of her alienating all of her family. She has moved to different state. She is in an extremely abusive and co-dependent relationship. It has been hell. We haven't seen her since 2020 or her heard voice in 2 years. We will continue to stand for Truth and most of all love her thru this. It's the hardest thing we've had to do...its tougher than tough love.

[@javiseason5213]

This is a Very Great interview/Documentary, so true and my heart goes out to David and his family for what he/she went through

[@elkef.5276]

thank you so much for your work and your courage 🙏 this psychological pandemic has also arrived here in Austria… listening to you gives me hope, it was the first time i heard someone talking about the devastating situation of the traumatized parents and families … thank you so much 🙏

[@westarrr]

I used to think I was trans. I had therapy to figure it out, and thankfully was not given any hormones because in the Netherlands they don't hand it out as easily. Turned out I just felt a lot of pressure from expectations I put on myself based on what I thought society wanted to see (e.g. being a true man or true woman) and the issue which was at large was more that I need to be able to push back and defend my own desires, pleasures or whatever is a part of my identity. I no longer suffer from dysphoria thankfully and am receiving therapy for assertiveness, and have been feeling a lot better since. I am so grateful that my psychiatrist was still sceptical and didn't instantly write me off into gender-confirming therapy as the APA would have liked.

[@dannygreen7473]

You're lucky your doctor was allowed to be skeptical. It's surprising he hasn't had his license pulled for not towing the line.

[@ellyw7201]

Thank you for sharing your experience! I know a young woman who thinks she is trans, and I think her real issues are very much like yours. Your comment helps me understand what kind of therapy might help her.

[@rebeccadanvers884]

Nowadays you can be prosecuted in Spain if you brong you child to the psychiatrist to diagnose gender dysphoria. If your under age child says to be trans you have to allow them to transition before coming odñf age.

[@dannygreen7473]

@@rebeccadanvers884 Pure evil.

[@joegonzalez7434]

@@rebeccadanvers884 Do you have a source for this? I couldn't find anything regarding your statement. The closest thing I found was that a new law was passed in Spain (in 2022 I believe) where anybody over the age of 16 can legally change their registered gender without a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria (under 16, you can still do but need parent's permission or court order). You may not agree with said law, but that's substantially different than what you stated. Which is why I asked for a source as if what you said is true, that's obviously bat**** crazy.

[@mariagisone3451]

When she says that this issue traumatizes the entire family I cant help but wonder if that is the whole point behind this ideology - destroying the family unit.

[@brandonesterer]

Woke Maoism on new discourse channel

[@christineclark9443]

1000000000%

[@SugaryPhoenixxx]

@@brandonesterer New Discourses is an absolute gold mine. James Lindsay has a better understanding of the woke cult than anyone else I have ever heard. I recommend his channel often. Though his speeches are very long, & extremely heavy. I feel like Jordan Peterson is a better introduction to unveiling the woke ideology, but once you have a base understanding of it, New Discourses with James Lindsay is where you go for the advanced lesson on woke ideology.

[@jjtimmins1203]

Of course it is.

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

I think you are right. I think it is part of The Great Reset.

[@nek2327]

Thank you for all your hard work Dr. Peterson and Dr. Gossman!

[@sanaasho]

I'm not even parent and this is so painful