#GeneTunney #LegendaryHeavyweightChampion Legendary Heavyweight Champion The Fighting Marine Gene Tunney in his prime. He Beat Georges Carpentier, KO Tommy Gibbons, Out pointed Jack Dempsey two times KO Tom Heeney
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@lucabalossino28809 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest heavyweights in history, underrated as well!!!!
@hollywoodjoe1234 жыл бұрын
GENE TUNNEY HAD IN HIS CAREER - - 82 WINS AND ONLY 1 LOSS - - AND THAT HAS TO BE THE GREATEST EVER RECORD IN BOXING HISTORY !
@kingwamarada34513 жыл бұрын
Had a remarkable defense
@noloferratus3 жыл бұрын
But a lousy district attorney.
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
@@noloferratus . That was his son. He died in the late 70's at 81.
@frankpaya690 Жыл бұрын
@@Deadsea_1993 Gene Tunney died in November,1978 at the age of 80.
@donquixote59278 жыл бұрын
Tunney is a lot like Ezzard Charles, both great light heavyweight and heavyweight champions but both kind of forgotten by todays fans, never really forgiven for beating beloved champions
@samtotheg8 жыл бұрын
only forgotten by boxing novices ,whos opinion on whos good in boxing would not have mattered anyways ..you are right!!!
@it_me_14126 жыл бұрын
KillaBlu I don’t think people forgot about Charles based upon him beating a more liked champion, he just wasn’t very impressive compared to the others of his time period such as Marciano who is also pretty much forgotten in the modern day. The fact dempsey decidedly won his title by decimating Willard and held it for 7 years is why he’s remembered, Tunney was Champion for 2.
@theonofswords37645 жыл бұрын
@@it_me_1412 Tunney retired undefeated and dempsey at one point went three years without defending. Dempseys stalking brawling style appealed to people more than tunneys more defensive style and Tunney was very articulate and soft spoken. It was more that than boxing achievements that made dempsey more popular
@husain47184 жыл бұрын
And both moved up because they didn't get title shots at light heavyweight.
@hollywoodjoe1234 жыл бұрын
GENE TUNNEY BEAT JACK DEMPSEY TWICE - - WOW - -
@kidbean19 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated fighter. He was a true pugilist and thinking man's fighter !!! Legend !!
@5809AUJG2 жыл бұрын
He's on my wall of great boxers in my studio.
@abbytunnn21427 жыл бұрын
He is my great great uncle! wish i could've met him
@jonjons40367 жыл бұрын
i can help you?
@beatlejim645 жыл бұрын
Tunney was one of the SMARTEST fighters of all time. He studied film of his opponents...formulated a fight plan. Beat the best of his time...lost 1 fight out of 85...died in 1978...
@garymattscheck90664 жыл бұрын
The Fighting Marine!
@kingwamarada34513 жыл бұрын
Died too soon
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
@@kingwamarada3451 . He passed away in 1978 at 81. He lived a long life. You might be thinking of Harry Greb that died too soon. I believe he was in his early 30's. Died from too much damage due to his boxing. I mean the guy was like, what, 32 ? His record was 108-8 (officially recognized. Some say it was 276-19, but I can only go by actual documents). That's a hell of a lot of fighting, especially by that age.
@Bruins-vq5ey10 ай бұрын
Greb was 112-8-3. 170 ND and 1 NC
@paulmatthews5708 жыл бұрын
Tunney was as good as good as anyone today, a great mover and accurate hitter and a real gentleman.
@Krtx407 жыл бұрын
Paul Matthews he's my great cousin
@Krtx407 жыл бұрын
Like he's my 2nd or 3rd cousin
@noloferratus3 жыл бұрын
wrong.
@Respect12948 Жыл бұрын
He’d struggle with todays heavyweights they only need one to put you out
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
Gene Tunney 82-1. Gene took technical boxing to the next level. Gene would interview boxers that fought upcoming his opponents in the past and he would take notes. He would watch videos of his upcoming opponents and he would take notes. Gene was knocked down once in his career and yet he wasn't ever knocked out in all of his fights. He won his final fight, retired, vacated the belt cause he said he had nothing left to prove and he didn't want to deal with long-term damage. Other fighters that fought and never stopped, Sam Langford, Harry Greb, etc, all got damaged and lost vision/went completely blind. Gene Tunney served as chief trainer in WW2. He was a veteran of WW1 and was the champion boxer in the armed forces boxing. Gene was smart with his money and avoided the troubles from the Great Depression stock market crash. He died at 81 years old. Absolute badass.
@Bruins-vq5ey10 ай бұрын
57-1-1 17ND 1 NC
@Threesom6666 жыл бұрын
Really great video! Saw a lot of footage never before seen. The quality is superb. To me Tunney is easily one of the greatest of all-time. If not the greatest. He fought with the best and had an impeccable record. Had one of the greatest defense of all time and was never knocked out. A real thinking boxer.
@TheBatugan774 жыл бұрын
Unlike so many here... I'm not related to the great Gene Tunney.
@systemshq18 жыл бұрын
Gene Tunney = Ali Mk1. The way he moved so well and fought with his hands down. Way ahead of his time!
@somethingrandom70264 жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagree with is that he was ahead of his time. Maybe he was by a little bit but not much, people overestimate how much boxing has “evolved.”
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
@@somethingrandom7026 . He was completely ahead of the times compared to others. He was the first that created boxing as a science form. The studying of opponents prior to fights by interviewing guys that fought them and by watching videos of his opponents before fights. Notice how he approached Dempsey at the start of the bell, cause he knew that Dempsey was not a defensive fighter. Dempsey was usually the aggressor in fights. Gene definitely evolved the sport tremendously. 82-1 and retired the belt cause he didn't want to deal with long-term damage. Genius man
@mycheesesteak4 жыл бұрын
Thx for posting this. I really enjoyed it! I thought the 1920's music really helped to give you some of the feel of the times too.
@MrJarrett744 жыл бұрын
Thx M8 your welcome :)
@harrygreb34577 жыл бұрын
Gene Tunney Larry Holmes And Wladimir are the most underrated under appreciated Heavyweight champions ever
@it_me_14126 жыл бұрын
Cody Mana Holmes had the unfortunate place as the champion who came after Ali. He really had no chance of being remembered. That’s without taking into account that audiences were moving towards watching lower weight classes such as the immensely popular Sugar Ray Leonard.
@constantine73825 жыл бұрын
Good call! Add Charles to that and your list is spot on.
@havrisen66204 жыл бұрын
Tunney and Holmes, YES. Klitchko....get the fuck out of here.
@theshrivelstein71183 жыл бұрын
Tommy Burns? Tunney and Holmes for sure,not the klitshenko tho
@radunicolae482 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, Gene moves like today boxers. Great champion
@TitansTrust2 жыл бұрын
Great fighter if you were to put Gene Tunney against 2022 boxers he would pulverized them.Boxers back in those earlier eras were really strong and can go 15 rounds easily.Even after reaching round 15 they still had stamina and strength they had in rounds one and two.
@constantine73825 жыл бұрын
For those that think boxing started with espn! Tunney was exceptional, moved like a modern fighter, quick hands AND feet, great chin and underrated power. Only the greatest ever, GREB, was able to best him. More than a match for anyone today! ( Unless they are promoted by golden boy!)
@somethingrandom70264 жыл бұрын
No, modern fighters move like Tunney.
@johnnyc08112 жыл бұрын
I heard he beat greb 3 times after he loss to him.
@constantine73822 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyc0811 He did but most historians say that Greb at least won their first two fights. Even Tunney said that, though he got the verdict.
@brandonmcalister416 Жыл бұрын
@@constantine7382 wasn’t Greb fighting with one eye by that point in time?
@constantine7382 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcalister416 There is some dispute about when he started losing his eyesight. Most people say it was after a fight with Kid Norfolk. But Greb himself seem to think it happened during a fight with the great Jeff Smith. If Greb was right, then AFTER he lost his eyesight in one eye, he went something along the line of 70-7-2. Yes, the Tunney fight was when he had eye issues. He beat him, actually beat him twice, but he also bested Tommy Loughran, Tommy Gibbons, Johnny Wilson, Lou Bogash, Tiger Flowers, Jimmy Slattery, Jimmy Delaney, Mickey Walker, Maxie Rosenbloom and a bunch of others. Not too bad for a one eyed fighter.
@alidaygo6199 жыл бұрын
tunney was great
@Lee-sq4cm Жыл бұрын
Master boxer ahead of he's time
@jamesfirth23924 жыл бұрын
Tunney the first modern boxer.
@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V82 жыл бұрын
*I'm no Boxing analyst, but Gene Tunney is the first of the Old-Time Boxers that I can tell,* *that would Dance and Bob and use Boxing skills to Win Fights.*
@seanschliwa012 жыл бұрын
An underrared fighter. Really ahead of his time. Gene Tunney rules.
@1saxonwolf10 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@abudujana134 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, EJ BOXING LIVE
@bendahan2494 Жыл бұрын
Gene tunney is my faveoreit boxer of all time i used to watch him as a kid 1940
@wheelinthesky3009 жыл бұрын
To Cloud Dweller: "I see little or no defensive skills" Dempsey and Tunney have defensive skills similar to Fazier and Ali, respectively. Dempsey/Frazier bob and weave, occasionally use their hands and arms to block punches. Tunney/Ali, both fast on their feet, slide in to deliver shots, smother their opponents counter, lean back to avoid counters, then slide out and dance about the ring.
@mehwishrasheed30354 жыл бұрын
Tunny is the only boxer whose combinations resemble ali
@milesmccoy29764 жыл бұрын
Properly stated it would be Ali’s combinations are the only ones that resemble Tunney. Not the other way around.
@jimcameron46726 жыл бұрын
A ten round fight for the world championship, uncommon.
@kramuarnu72193 жыл бұрын
I'm a 53 year old canadian.....why doesnt someone make a Tunney movie in the 2020's it would look so cool....losing to Grebb-Leonard stepping in showing him how it's done.Ferocious Dempsey vs cool chess playing Gene...and not like making Max Baer a bad guy you can have 2 good guys cause they were....
@Krtx407 жыл бұрын
He's my great cousin
@maximusmaxwell43927 жыл бұрын
great period music used rather than some of these fools who decide it would be cool to add rap music
@garymattscheck90664 жыл бұрын
I like the music of the 1920s better than the "music "of today!
@dominicbrady15394 жыл бұрын
Gene is my sisters great grandfather
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
Lucky. Hopefully there's pictures of him and family history somewhere buried like treasure. I honestly believe that Gene is the Goat of the sport. Ali's style was influenced by Gene and Ali even noted that he was in his top 5 favorite boxers. The constant movements and the dangerous jab.
@DominicR-y5d Жыл бұрын
So dazed Tunney finally looks up at the ref at the actual count of 8. With his awkward sitting position, I don't think he could have gotten fully up by the count of 10. I feel sorry for Dempsey with that new rule that cost him his moment of greatness.
@pyruvall5 жыл бұрын
I'm related to this guy
@frankpaya690 Жыл бұрын
He looks like he could have been related to the Kennedys.
@70galaxie11 ай бұрын
was hoping for documentary
@charleybarley9393 ай бұрын
3 min 53 secs: when a low blow turns into a knockout. Who knew?
@wendelllatimer4146 Жыл бұрын
This only goes to show just how much a badass was Harry Greb who was quite a bit smaller and only had vision in one eye for his fights with Tunney.
@ambrusfuzesi39268 жыл бұрын
old boxers were more attractive!
@chochopav8 жыл бұрын
...simple fighters...those are not boxers...but hey its allways nice to watch a braw...especially if you dont understand shit about boxing!
@themostsecretscience64098 жыл бұрын
That got to me. I usually write LOL without laughing but that was funny.
@77yorks7 жыл бұрын
pffff...
@martinearly79658 жыл бұрын
He's my relative!
@ambrusfuzesi39268 жыл бұрын
+Martin Early is it true? give me some evidence!
@martinearly79658 жыл бұрын
my mother's mother was a tunney living in cavan in Ireland,I was asking my mum about it she said that gene was a close relative she also told me that gene flew over from America to have like a tunney gathering but a lot of the family in Ireland didn't bother with him because at that time they didn't really approve that his success was from fighting.
@ambrusfuzesi39268 жыл бұрын
Martin Early you have to be proud!
@abbytunnn21427 жыл бұрын
he is my great great uncle
@joep87877 жыл бұрын
Dempsey hadn't fought in over 3 years prior to this fight. He was fooling round in Hollywood. What athlete does that? Imagine if Babe Ruth had taken 3 years off in the 1920s to live it up in Hollywood! He'd have been very rusty upon returning to baseball.
@ddvsgd95085 жыл бұрын
He got a 2nd chance against Tunney and failed again, no excuses.
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
Cause the man was poor for a long time and fought for money to stop going hungry. "I was knocked down and I didn't want to get back up, but I had to. I had to win to get the money. Go 2 days without eating, you'll understand." So he got the rich life and wanted to enjoy it. However, Gene was just an overall better fighter. He took technical fighting to the next level. He interviewed guys that fought Dempsey so he could take notes. He watched videos of Dempsey fights and took notes. There's a reason why he ended his career at 82-1. His only loss was to Greb cause Greb had a completely random style of boxing that wasn't ever repeated either. "He was like fighting an Octopus with many arms" -Tunney. He defeated Greb 3 times after that and drew once.
@joephil92 жыл бұрын
If only Jack had gone to the corner straight away when the referee had told him. He might have regained the world title or at least made it a harder fight for Tunney. To be honest Tunney was dazed but not really out. He started getting up straight away and looking around even though he was struggling. I think he would have made the count even without those extra seconds but he would have been a bit shaken and would have eventually regained momentum. Tunney was a very intelligent and crafty man who still had enough of his senses to take advantage of the extra seconds of the count.
@manonfire3642 Жыл бұрын
You evidently weren't watching the clock. Tunney could not have regained his feet in nine seconds. Would a 3rd fight have been much different? Dempsey was out-classed and never changed techniques, always ducked low allowing his brains to be battered by not seeing what the other guy was doing. Oh well, that's life.
@joephil9 Жыл бұрын
@@manonfire3642 He was already looking at the referee when the official count had reached 4 seconds which would have been 9 seconds from the time he actually went down. It's just my oppinion that I think he could have made the count not necessarily that he would have. The point I made in my previous post is under that amount of pressure he remained calm enough not to panick and try to get to his feet at the official count of 4 when he still had 6 seconds left to beat the official count. Tunney used his commonsense didn't he? That's why I said he was a very intelligent and crafty man.
@vivalasvegas209021 күн бұрын
He beat Dempsey twice easily
@aaronjohnson34637 жыл бұрын
never understood this long count nonsense. tunney was dazed but would have beaten a correct count as that 5 seconds count not account for the fact he got up and was never under a serious threat of ko once dempsey started swinging again. much ado about nothing
@constantine73825 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even Jack said he thought Tunney would have beaten the count. But, you have to admit, it only adds to boxing lore. It's a great story.
@terribleTed-ln6cm5 жыл бұрын
Five seconds is an eternity in boxing. If Dempsey had fought tunney before he went out to Hollywood to fuck off for three years he would have killed Tunney , gene said himself , that Jack wasn't the same fighter after his three year " retirement ".
@Bruins-vq5ey10 ай бұрын
He didn't come to until the real count of 8
@NoName-zm1ks4 жыл бұрын
So Dempsey’s failure to go to neutral corner cost him the title.
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
Yep. The first and last time that Gene was ever knocked down too
@tommyboy71 Жыл бұрын
Tunney beats Dempsey 2 times and is never ranked as the greatest ever.
@jamescowan36514 жыл бұрын
He studied Dempsey for years to beat him, tgen defended the belt 1 time. Js
@franklopez36873 жыл бұрын
It’s funny part of America didnt that Dempsey was a draft dodger of the First World War and once he lost to Tunney fans and critics alike wanted to see him win. The hate transferred to Tunney after beating Dempsey and seeing that the marine was not brawler and the exact opposite of what Dempsey was , he enjoyed reading books 📚 being a intellectual . He was quoted in saying the “ the goal is to fighter smart , take the least amount of damage and make as much money in the sport” ........SOUND FAMILIAR ????? LOL 😂
@jpkaneshida5075Ай бұрын
Tunney was 6'1" & 170. Ali was 6'3" & 212 or so in his prime, SUPER FAST and just way too skilled. But that's the obvious; there's Foreman, Holmes, Bowe, Lennox... just WAY too big and with better, more modern technique.
@jerrylanglois7892 Жыл бұрын
Dempsey hadn't defended his title in 3 yrs. ?... so much for a '' fighting champ ''.
@terribleTed-ln6cm5 жыл бұрын
Family legend has it that my grandfather kicked Jack Dempseys ass over a parking space in San Diego California in 1929 , don't know if it is true or not. Sometimes grandpa's stories would get out of hand.
@brocklanders36163 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and I beat up Mike Tyson in jail.
@jherl83072 жыл бұрын
I met Jack Dempsey. Granpa is delusional..
@clouddweller11959 жыл бұрын
Love these videos of great boxers,but I see little or no defensive skills. I was taught to jab and return glove to my temple?
@benkelley73978 жыл бұрын
Fighters at the top of the game have the talent to abandon some fundamentals. I ain't no roy jones so I keep my hands up. Some like Tunney and Ali use it to lure in the opponent or increase head movement.
@miked68138 жыл бұрын
This is almost 100 years ago
@RaulsTacos8 жыл бұрын
+Mike D It doesn't matter the age, boxing techniques aren't taken as seriously as back in those days and they were experts of clinch and head movement.
@tarquiniussuperbus217 жыл бұрын
Back in the day they gloves were not as big as they are today and couldn't be used as a blocking device, old school boxers used parrying motions, footwork and head movement as there main source of defense. Tunney is an epitome of this old school English boxing style exemplified by his low hands used to guard his solar plexus.
@havinthecrackallthebest85766 жыл бұрын
Tunney down for 20
@paulblaesing46156 жыл бұрын
I have watched many, many fights over many decades, and have studied this fight many times, and there is no way Tunney could have gotten up and made a fight of it after an accurate 10 count. He was out of it, and that’s IF he could have gotten up at 10 which is highly doubtful.
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
The Long Count though was spot on. The rules were that Dempsey go to his corner and yet he was up to old habits and hovered over Gene. The ref did the right thing by refusing to count. I love Jack Dempsey, but I am glad that the rule of going to your corner after a knockdown was implemented due to him. Dempsey was relentless when a fighter fell down and he wouldn't let them get back up. Jack probably would have won that one and his title back had he gone to his corner, I will agree there.
@paulblaesing46152 жыл бұрын
@@Deadsea_1993 , the problem with your argument is the ref did not apply the rule to Tunney when he knocked Dempsey down later in the fight! The ref started the count immediately before Tunney moved to a neutral corner! Also, the ref should have picked up the count from the time keeper when Dempsey moved. Not that it mattered in this fight, standing over the fighter was perfectly legal and common before the new rule went into effect. The rule wasn’t changed because of Dempsey’s tactics. Check out the Wikipedia article, link below. Evidently the Dempsey camp asked that the new rule be used in this fight. Lol en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Count_Fight
@noloferratus3 жыл бұрын
During Tunney's term as a district attorney in Sonoma county he tried to prosecute me for knocking out a drug dealers bodyguard who attacked me in a bar in Rohnert Park California for no apparent reason. After the case was dismissed and they realized they had made a mistake Tunney never apologized to me for putting me through a year of hell trying to prosecute me for defending myself against a man who was more than twice my size and was clearly trying to kill me. I will always remember Tunney as a true creep. I guess it is to late for Tunney to apologize to me since he is now dead.
@Deadsea_19932 жыл бұрын
Bro, that was his son, Gene Tunney II. Gene Tunney was never into politics, his son was.
@jamescowan36514 жыл бұрын
Legendary?
@TheBatugan774 жыл бұрын
Yeah. 👺 Problem with that? 👺
@igolfjtweetler40977 жыл бұрын
Dempsey robbed.
@chochopav8 жыл бұрын
They didnt know shit about boxing
@RaulsTacos8 жыл бұрын
Lol how wrong you are.
@joep87875 жыл бұрын
Tunney was overrated. In 1922, he got badly beat by Harry Greb, losing 2 quarts of blood. If he'd fought Dempsey in 1922, Dempsey would've won. Dempsey made a mistake in taking a 3 year vacation from boxing. What athlete today in any sport takes a 3 year vacation and expects to be the same?
@dannymaguire8795 жыл бұрын
Yeah well Tunney beat him twice so your point is pretty moot. Tunney also beat Greb 3 times who was no slouch by the way..... voted by Ring magazine as the #7 best fighters in an 80 year period. He is in 3 different boxing hall of fame's and fought 16 hall of fame fighters a total of 48 fights (33-9-6). So what else about boxing don't you know? The real truth is Tunney beat a beloved champion quite handily by the way both times and nobody likes to see a fan favorite lose. Oops it happens and sometimes it happens twice.
@joep87875 жыл бұрын
@@dannymaguire879 In the first Dempsey Tunney fight, Tunney clearly beat a Dempsey that had not fought for 3 years. That's a huge advantage for Tunney, yet though Tunney messed up Dempsey's face, he failed to knock him out. You think he'd have beaten the Dempsey who destroyed Firpo? If it had been Tunney taking a 3 year layoff, Dempsey would've easily knocked him out. Dempsey crippled himself with that 3 year layoff, yet Tunney almost got beat by Dempsey the second time around. Could Tunney have gotten up in 10 seconds without a "long count"? I think he could have, but he might not have been able to keep Dempsey off of him.
@dannymaguire8795 жыл бұрын
@@joep8787 Both fights Tunney had no problem keeping Dempsey off of him. The woulda shoulda coulda doesn't mean squat. Two chances and two losses how do you judge it any other way. Tunney was an exceptional boxer. He had great footwork and was actually a bit before his time with sliding and the use of angles in counter punching. As far as his chin goes he was pretty much known for having a good one. As far as the long count goes....Boxing has rules. The days of standing over a guy and hitting him before he barely got to his feet were over. Dempsey thrived in that era.... which was over. Tunney also knocked Dempsey down with his right. Not his best punch. He mangled his face with his jab..... also not his best punch. He had a terrific left hook which was the punch that knocked quite a few fighters out.
@raymondrocco62515 жыл бұрын
@@dannymaguire879 he would have no chance against Ali !!!
@dannymaguire8795 жыл бұрын
@@raymondrocco6251 What does that have anything to do with what was being said? Absolutely nothing is the answer.