Generac Home Generator Wont Start Over Crank 1502 Code

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@TexasNightRider
@TexasNightRider 16 күн бұрын
I can't criticize the homeowner for lack of maintenance. Quite often machinery like this is out of sight and out of mind after not being needed for sometimes years. We just completed installation of a 38k Kohler and I'm determined to stay on top of the maintenance by watching videos like this. The tool list in this video is outstanding. Best I've come across. Thank you.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 15 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for the kind words!
@georgequinn69
@georgequinn69 2 күн бұрын
how do you like the Kohler?
@TexasNightRider
@TexasNightRider Күн бұрын
@@georgequinn69 The 38k Kohler has started successfully in 3 scheduled exercises and two full load tests. It's still new so I think most machines no matter the make would not have problems at this point. It is very quiet being liquid cooled. We're happy with the installation by the company we used in Houston. We had two 1000 gal in ground propane tanks installed that gives almost 3 weeks of power 24x7. Good luck.
@jessemackenzie6516
@jessemackenzie6516 4 ай бұрын
Great job, Im a Generac MPS industrial tech.... SO many techs do not understand voltage drop tests like you demonstrated. great job. ALso the start contact relay for that is under the controller in that unit.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Thats what I thought as I was editing it. Opps Good Call!
@jessemackenzie6516
@jessemackenzie6516 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival I probably shouldn't of mentioned it. ( now I feel like one of "those guys") I know its tough to shoot a video, talk and troubleshoot. I am confident that someone that knows voltage drop testing as well as you is very aware of the system and scr. Again , it was a VERY good demonstration of voltage drop diagnostics.
@borshardsd
@borshardsd 4 ай бұрын
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC 4 ай бұрын
Don't own a generator, never worked on one....but I still like these videos.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
🤣👍👍. That’s good enough for me.
@electricguy8688
@electricguy8688 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy your videos and humor. I am an electrical contractor and a Generac dealer but not a service dealer so we can’t do any warranty work. We do a lot of new installs and a lot of preventative maintenance. I have a lot of regular customers that we do service on their generators that is not covered under warranty and a lot that want me to do the warranty work but I’d rather do electrical work than be an engine mechanic. There’s not a lot of guys around here that want to service generators every day which seems pretty common. Keep up the good work and keep having a good sense of humor. Thanks for the video.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
That’s exactly my issue, I’ve never been into small engines, I can do it. I just don’t like doing it. I like Refrigeration so I’m not interested in generators as much as I was prior. I appreciate the compliments and the appreciation for my special humor that most people do not get.😂👍👍
@bassman34516
@bassman34516 4 ай бұрын
Awesome job explaining and showing voltage drop. This is why any good automotive technician uses a load testing light along with their multimeter to prove beyond a doubt which part of a circuit is the culprit.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 ай бұрын
sometimes I use a very crude method of just dead shorting it out with a jumper... then you only have to look for the magic smoke emitter(yeah, not on anything over 208Y/120V) even then, the continued arc can be horribly long in an commercial/industrial setting. so pretty much only in small residential/automotive(have fire extinguishers ready, with ratings for all types of fires) trust me on that one!~ 🤡
@VE3NMW
@VE3NMW 3 ай бұрын
Hey Rick! Another great video. I’ve got a 22KW Generac just installed last year and I guess I baby mine too much by going out every few weeks to check it, wipe the inside down and make sure it’s always ready!! I agree with you, leave repairs to the pros like yourself!! Thanks again!!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
If you just do the basic things like making sure the battery is not corroded and taken care of, make sure it starts and runs normal. Keep an eye on the oil level then you won’t have near the problems that these other people do. If I spent $7000-$15,000 on a generator, I’d be taking better care of it than what I’ve been seeing. Thank you for sharing.
@mikehughes8023
@mikehughes8023 21 күн бұрын
This guy knows his shit! Great job💯
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 21 күн бұрын
@@mikehughes8023 thanks Mike!
@roylejohnson3003
@roylejohnson3003 Ай бұрын
Thanks for these videos. I recently went through the Generac air cooled gen. class. All of these videos are very helpful.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Ай бұрын
I feel your pain. The class is not enough.
@jochemsluis8834
@jochemsluis8834 4 ай бұрын
Great job. As an HVAC&R Tech I work on fryers, ovens, grills, postmix for Coke, Taylor/RAM and HVAC&R. I use to dishwashers also but holding spares just made stock levels too much. I like the variety makes it more interesting day 😀😀😀
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
It definitely gives us options when we’re sick of where we’re at 😂✌️
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 3 ай бұрын
After you clean the battery posts and cable ends, put automotive chassis grease on the posts and cable ends before assembling them and then a little more on top to fill in any gaps around the posts and you will never have that problem again! I learned this tip from a retired army mechanic! That spray crap is near useless! Also, a sealed AGM battery is a much better replacement option.
@pibbles-a-plenty1105
@pibbles-a-plenty1105 Ай бұрын
You said it better than I did!
@Jamie-po9zk
@Jamie-po9zk 4 ай бұрын
I wish i could be half as good of technician you are man, well done.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
You’re very kind. Thank you but I’m still not as quick at generators as normal HVAC because I’m not working on them everyday. They take a lot of time to diagnose properly if you’re not doing it everyday.
@rupe53
@rupe53 4 ай бұрын
Good job on the video and well explained on the voltage drop. BTW, retired Generac tech of near 25 years and recalling a bunch of that era having a poor connection with the battery cable at the starter. (needs another 1/4 turn) Be aware that the silver faced insulation is a better ground than you think so watch your wrench in the tight quarters back there. In my shop we used the felt washers on battery posts. I was skeptical at first, but never saw any crud on a battery in all of my time in the field. They work way better than anything else. I worked for a larger dealer (15 techs) and not unusual to knock out 40 - 50 services a day... plus repairs.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I agree the felt is pretty good, I believe it’s saturated with some sort of chemical. I kept my hand wrapped around that wrench really well because I’ve heard of people crossing the positive to negative with a wrench and having the battery explode.
@rupe53
@rupe53 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Never saw a battery explode from that (too far away for the battery gas) but it will erase the time / date / exercise stored in memory. Now the customer will be calling because they have no idea when it will do the weekly run. BTW, if a customer doesn't specify, we always set the exercise for 10 AM Tuesday (programable units) so if we ever get a call, anyone in the office can answer that question. EST and DST are still a mystery so we have to tell them it could be off by an hour at certain times of the year.
@LouisS-cs7bh
@LouisS-cs7bh 4 ай бұрын
I have a 20kw generac guardian. I’ve been having issues with the sensor loss issue. Replaced the battery, contact relay and still having issues with the generator just clicking and not starting. I have to press the switch to manual several times before it starts. The alternator was replaced about 3 years ago and probably that’s the issue again. It appears the battery cable is tight on the solenoid but maybe I should tighten it down even more. Getting 12 volts at the solenoid. Any ideas???
@LouisS-cs7bh
@LouisS-cs7bh 4 ай бұрын
I meant to say starter and not alternator 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@rupe53
@rupe53 4 ай бұрын
@@LouisS-cs7bh In my time I was seeing at least 800 units a year for service / repair and starters were low on the list. That start relay was even lower on the list. I don't think I replaced 3-4 over the years. You need to do a proper test and check voltages, starting at the battery and working back to the starter, including the small wire that triggers the starter. (wire #56 in a diagram) You should also check the negative battery cable where it ties to the rear of the engine. BTW, even an off-brand starter usually lasts more than a few years. You are missing something.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 ай бұрын
the spray on "battery terminal" stuff is great for ease of use. used to just slather on "petroleum jelly" and "baking soda" mixture. aka acid neutralizer and corrosion prevention via water/moisture repellant. yeah, I use the spray can stuff (easier, even though costly). have used white lithium grease, silicone grease and others when out of all the good stuff. but I am not an dedicated auto-service shop. just a sucker for family, friends and foes. 😖
@MrCmgl1
@MrCmgl1 4 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I use the same battery drop test on my generator pm’s. Like you said the most common issue is the batteries. We try and not let them go past 5 years of use.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
Heat is a killer of batteries so I think at least every 3 years
@Allclear75
@Allclear75 4 ай бұрын
One of the more informative videos out there on Generac. I have overcrank alarms on mine frequently, but it seems like it may be a valve lash problem.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
Checking and adjusting the valves is something they shoved down our throats all the time. Generally, I have not had anything so far out of whack that it caused any major issues, but it’s worth looking at. Thank you for the kind feedback.
@dirtydon8661
@dirtydon8661 4 ай бұрын
I like your work. Very thorough. I deal with batteries all the time. They can measure almost 13v but have zero current. Always load test.
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw 4 ай бұрын
A backup generator could really benefit from having a rope starter inside the case. I have a tri-fuel portable with electric and rope start. Seems like a better machine except for not having an ATS. Nice video 👍👍
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Your problem would be trying to start something this large by hand. On average it's 1.5 hp to as much as 2 hp per thousand watts, for example a 25 KW generator would be potentially 37 1/2 hp or more.
@ArtStoneUS
@ArtStoneUS 3 ай бұрын
And it also requires that you are physically present at the building
@tomking1890
@tomking1890 3 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvivalYou would never be able to pull it.
@tc1uscg65
@tc1uscg65 3 ай бұрын
Man, I'm glad I got that 10 year warranty on my 26kw unit. Mine tests/runs every week. But I feel I should be running it every 60/90 days under load. I run my portable (backup 8kw genset) every 30 days.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
Turn off the quiet test feature. Let that thing get nice and hot so it boils the moisture out of the oil. When you see White oil that is moisture buildup.
@Ted_E_Bear
@Ted_E_Bear 4 ай бұрын
Rick, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge about the Generac Generator ! It’s another amazing video ! Thanks
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks Teddy ✌️✌️
@fshn76
@fshn76 4 ай бұрын
Such a fun time, hint of sarcasm. I have never messed with generators before. Love the disclaimer, lol. Hope you had a good weekend Rick.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
It went too quickly, and I’m on calls starting tomorrow for the next week. Not looking forward to that. Thanks for checking it out!
@jond1536
@jond1536 4 ай бұрын
I have that same little socket set in the red box, good little set. great videos
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks 🙏
@rickr6908
@rickr6908 4 ай бұрын
Nice job, Rick. Please keep the videos coming.
@Tommya4142
@Tommya4142 4 ай бұрын
Good job explaining everything,
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
much appreciated!
@condor5635
@condor5635 4 ай бұрын
I love the Fluke. I have the same one. However, last night, looking at a video of the new Flukes with Bluetooth. Logging values, clamp built-in etc. Sweet! $700 however😞
@TimHancock-h6e
@TimHancock-h6e 4 ай бұрын
Good info. 55 hours is not alot. They need to exercise it more. My portable has over 200 hours to be sure it’s ready when I need it.
@coldking8383
@coldking8383 4 ай бұрын
A Big Thanks Rick on 8% off from Trutech tools . Good video.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for using it!
@pibbles-a-plenty1105
@pibbles-a-plenty1105 Ай бұрын
Not an instructional video? Well, I learned a lot. Well spoken and detailed. However I would not use that plastic spray. It dries hard and moisture will creep under it and the battery terminal and connector corrosion will only be delayed. I have always liberally applied ordinary grease (not moly lube!) to the battery posts and connectors and never had a corrosion problem for the last 50 years (I'm 83).
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Ай бұрын
Thank you sir! I like the washers for batteries but don’t have them anymore
@SteveColgan
@SteveColgan 4 ай бұрын
Look at you calling it correct right from the start. I wish I could ave you come fix all my stuff.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I still have to look at the book for some of the tests. But after this many years you know what to look out for. Thank u!
@tonioyendis4464
@tonioyendis4464 4 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! I just got a rpm sensor fault to try & figure out; just replaced battery when it died in the middle of nite during Hurricane beryl...always something.
@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq
@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq 4 ай бұрын
Good video. We typically drop out the charging circuit to get the actual battery voltage and can see the drop when cranking. Just a faster way of troubleshooting.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
@@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq cool. I’ll have to try that. Thanks!
@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq
@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival keep making these videos. Many people are in need. Thanks
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
No, a faster way is to measure battery voltage during the crank cycle, and leave the charging circuit alone-then you are not resetting all the exercise info should the battery voltage go below about 9 VDC without the charger, thereby wiping the EEPROM,
@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq
@GentechNorthwest-ue4oq 4 ай бұрын
@@bobbygene8274 That’s not how the evolution control boards work. However, yes you are correct, you can see the drop during crank cycle on manual.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I normally used my digital meter while I use a load tester. I was told it should stay above 11.2vdc when cranking.
@henrythinks
@henrythinks 3 ай бұрын
Generac is the Generator of choice for RV's for some reason. I'm a retired Senior RV Tech and Generac is nothing but problems and almost always need to be removed from the coach to fix it.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
They have a hell of a marketing team. The next big reason is their price is better than most everyone else.
@stephenbullock-yn3vh
@stephenbullock-yn3vh 4 ай бұрын
Thanks rick for excellent information 👍
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@andrewfyakim525
@andrewfyakim525 4 ай бұрын
Thank you; very informative video! Where are you located? I'd like to hire you to do a check-up and maintenance for my Generac.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Ohio
@andrewfyakim525
@andrewfyakim525 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival A bit too far from us here in eastern NC. Too much 'windshield time' for a service call. But thank you once again for your great videos... I know, that you really know what you're talking about. (I was a member of ASHRAE/American Society of Heat Refrigeration Airconditioning Engineers for 30+ years as well as a member of the ACCA/Air Conditioning Contractors of America for 30+ years; an Epic Level instructor for Manual-J, D, P, S., etc...) I learn more hands-on information from you and your videos....
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, my HVAC training was really bad, I was the first year program for the school and they took a guy from the field that had no teaching experience and combined him with a guy with teaching experience but no HVAC experience other than some rental properties. To say the least I had to learn the hard way, that’s why I make these videos help people learn when they don’t have someone willing to help them.
@shadowbanned69
@shadowbanned69 Ай бұрын
What standby genset do you recommend if generac is junk? who isnt junk in your opinion?
@pibbles-a-plenty1105
@pibbles-a-plenty1105 Ай бұрын
Who said "junk"? 🤨
@FPHA697
@FPHA697 4 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video brother.
@apollorobb
@apollorobb 4 ай бұрын
Great Job Mr. Dirmeyer
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@davidnull5590
@davidnull5590 4 ай бұрын
Rick, you're a wildman! Why no 65 cal arc flash suit?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
For 240v? Sure for 460v
@davidnull5590
@davidnull5590 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival --- I'm teasing Rick, teasing, it comes through poorly in a comment.
@bills6946
@bills6946 4 ай бұрын
Because 240 volts does not ionize the air with a short circuit. 13,800 volts doesn’t either. Only 480 volts ionizes the air. A fact of physics and high voltage safety training.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
@@davidnull5590 I figured you’re teasing.
@zekenzy6486
@zekenzy6486 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you for sharing. If you don't mind me asking ? May I ask, Where do you get the battery ? Is that car battery ?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
That likely came from the place we buy our automotive parts. It’s a local distributor not national. Technically it is a regular car battery. They claim the one Generac uses his technically built for generator because it’s vibration resistant, but I don’t know if that’s true or not. We’ve never had any problems with these batteries or any other ones for that matter if you take care of them.
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 4 ай бұрын
​@@HVACRSurvival Pretty good vibrations in a car too so I would doubt that claim too probably same as a car battery
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
They are absolutely car batteries, and NO generac does NOT make them. There are only a few manufactures of automotive batteries in the country, three I think. Recommended battery is a group 26 or 26R, you want the negative post on the outside, if you can get it that way. Generac's negative cable is not always long enough to do that, though.
@zachcerasani5239
@zachcerasani5239 Ай бұрын
Hey man, really enjoying your videos thank you! I am a 18 year Hvac tech and I have the same error code on my Generac at home. The battery was tested at interstate. They said it’s OK. Any chance you could offer some help? I understand if you can’t but I figured I would just ask. Thanks in advance Zack.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Ай бұрын
What kind of help?
@zachcerasani5239
@zachcerasani5239 Ай бұрын
@ understanding the way the starter is told to energize. There is a little relay looks like a 12v coil that (I think) is normally closed. I don’t have a schematic and I don’t know what I’m looking for/where to find the failure….
@zachcerasani5239
@zachcerasani5239 24 күн бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival where can I get a wiring diagram?
@zachcerasani5239
@zachcerasani5239 24 күн бұрын
@ if your able/willing to help maybe find a way to DM??
@rickchapman9232
@rickchapman9232 4 ай бұрын
Is it set up to do a test every week? The only problem I have had was an oil sending unit.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Most of them I’ve seen is every week. I don’t recommend the quiet mode, run it hard and hot to burn off the moisture in the oil.
@BigBoxDodge2020
@BigBoxDodge2020 4 ай бұрын
Have you serviced that generator previous???
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
@@BigBoxDodge2020 I haven’t been there before. The company might have.
@morganbrickwall7902
@morganbrickwall7902 4 ай бұрын
Should use the non corrosion felts on the battery posts.
@davidmaust1415
@davidmaust1415 4 ай бұрын
On newer generators Maxitrol external fuel regulators frequently cause overcrank problems as they let pressure build up especially if regulator is in direct sunlight and solenoid will not open due to high pressure that regulator has let walk up to or past 20" wc
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I’ve heard of the pressure being too high to allow the solenoid to open, but I’ve never seen it that high. Usually the highest I’ve seen is maybe 14 to 13 inches and even then I would adjust the primary regulator down.
@davidmaust1415
@davidmaust1415 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival a couple of times I have seen a maxitrol in direct sunlight walk from 7"wc to 20 in less than 10min, first time was a couple of years ago on a 6mo old generator, we do not use maxitrol period anymore after realizing faulty dilemma and is first thing I look for with overcrank is if customer has a maxitrol regulator. This is also why when replacing fuel plenum I leave old fuel neck and solenoid as the older ones tolerate a higher wc
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
That’s a new one for me. Maxitrol is usually a good product, I see them on Make Up units all the time and those aren’t usually cheap.
@helmsajr
@helmsajr 4 ай бұрын
Great job Rick.
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 4 ай бұрын
Good job Rick..........
@stbentoak5047
@stbentoak5047 4 ай бұрын
Generators eat batteries. I solved this by buying batteries that had a three-year free replacement on them. Ironically, about every 34 months. they went bad.. : ) They handed me a new one for about 10 years straight.. Solved the problem, though. Batteries were the number one thing to look for when these things were running wonky..
@rpsmith
@rpsmith Ай бұрын
Likely cheap batteries and a inexpensive charger. Good quality AGM battery and a Smart charger designed for AGM should last 7-8 years!
@bilalh8995
@bilalh8995 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
The two most prevent issues with generators is a failed/failing battery and lack of fuel...replace the battery every 3 or 4 years-whether the battery "tests" good or not. Other than that, perform needed maintenance per manufactures guidelines. Please don't use spray on battery terminals. Use impregnated washers. Most corrosion is from vapor coming from the case after the seal between the post and the case is compromised, sometimes due to someone beating on the terminals instead of spreading the battery clamp, or random failure.
@thesilentonevictor
@thesilentonevictor 4 ай бұрын
Rick easy one for the professional
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 ай бұрын
loose/dirty battery posts/terminals. hehe, I learned over 30 years ago to always clean them with wire brushes(terminal brushes) and always apply an anti-oxidant. how did I learn that? previous failures! yeah, I most always learn the hard way or backwards very fast.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Same
@MrAdamd83
@MrAdamd83 3 ай бұрын
Do you recommend a generac generator and good job
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
Their latest ones aren’t too bad. You just have to do your part in maintaining it and you won’t have near the problems. Also make sure they follow the instructions properly on the installation. Meaning getting the gas line and meter size correctly, not putting it too close to the house and not putting it where there’s snow piles typically during the winter.
@SHSPVR
@SHSPVR 4 ай бұрын
the best way to test a battery is with the old carbon pile tester and as the rule of thumbs you should always clean the terminals before starting any test
@christopherkidwell9817
@christopherkidwell9817 3 ай бұрын
Whoever did that violation of code should have been reported for doing that.
@user-ge5le4ku6j
@user-ge5le4ku6j 4 ай бұрын
you do a great job
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I appreciate the feedback and the view.
@JohnJohn-tc4xc
@JohnJohn-tc4xc 4 ай бұрын
Wonderful video
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Many thanks 🙏
@seangriffon6502
@seangriffon6502 4 ай бұрын
This is why i prefer Kohler over generac anyday.
@condor5635
@condor5635 4 ай бұрын
A battery issue? I don’t see anything exactly tied to Generac being the issue.
@leesummers6979
@leesummers6979 3 ай бұрын
Troubleshooting should tell you that your first step is to check battery and connections.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, well if common sense was common, and if everyone knew how to do what I do, I wouldn’t have a job now would I?
@RaySmith-x6x
@RaySmith-x6x 4 ай бұрын
So here is my question. Assuming all mainterance is followed to the letter. Are these just cheap crap or can a homeowner depend on one properly installed?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
There are some that go bad for no good reason, most of them are improperly maintained, then there’s others that don’t really have any problems. Like I said the video the newest ones don’t seem to have near the issues that the ones from the mid 2000s did.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
There better than a Mobil unit for some people not in a flood zone Yet there still the cheapest line of units, charging oil and property services are expensive but without it get a candle 😮
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Myself personally prefer portable units because mine have been flawless and they’re actually actually Generac. I haven’t had any problems with either one of them ones 8000 W the other ones 3000.
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
Yes, to both questions.
@slip0n0fall
@slip0n0fall 4 ай бұрын
Those high frequency impedance based battery analyzers are okay but at least once I've had one "pass" but fail in carbon pyle tester (which sounds like you have elsewhere 👍)
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
@@slip0n0fall yep. I have a basic 100 amp resistive tester. I felt the same way about the electronic testers.
@timhufnagel7462
@timhufnagel7462 3 ай бұрын
I've seen so many people hack in a generator install it's insane. Not unbonding and separating panels on most. Atleast in my area the local hvac supplier sells generacs. So the hvac tech tries to play electrician and corners usually get cut.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
Our local Carrier dealer sells Honeywell, which is technically Generac. Most installers of HVAC don’t really want to do the generator install, but they forced to do it. Just like I service guys don’t wanna work on them.
@REFRIGZ
@REFRIGZ 4 ай бұрын
Great video! What brand and model are those long alligator clips! Those things look handy to have for hard to reach positions.
@user-ge5le4ku6j
@user-ge5le4ku6j 4 ай бұрын
why is the ground fused? seems unsafe to me.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Where did you see this at in the video? Give me a timestamp.
@rupe53
@rupe53 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival I think he confused you talking about #23 switching the ground as you were about to pull that line fuse to simulate an outage. BTW, been pulling that fuse for decades just to avoid customers complaining of clocks flashing "12 noon" after a service call.
@johnandrews3049
@johnandrews3049 Ай бұрын
Seems they need a small solar panel w a trickle charger on battery..also should do better battery corrosive protection
@kwd57
@kwd57 4 ай бұрын
Why don't Generac recommend AGM batteries to avoid all the battery corrosion issues on their generators? Like you said most problems on these generators are do problems like you show here. When my original Exide battery goes bad or shows any signs of corrosion, I will for sure go to a AGM type.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I’m not sure why they don’t. Heck if people would keep the battery water level up and just check the generator like it mattered they wouldn’t have near the problems they have.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
It’s a smart move and change it every year if weather gets bad It’s a lot of work and expensive to keep one ready 😢 Good luck folks the higher amp battery the better 😊
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
Why not an AGM, or a 7 year warrantied battery from interstate or whatever you think is better. Very simple. It is money wasted. A "regular" battery properly maintained will provide as good of a service life as anything else, just change it every 3 or 4 years-even the AGM-even if it tests good. Remember, you only have at max a 2.5 amp charger. It won't do well with a larger battery which is hard to get in an out. Just change the battery. Just do it. (And, replace more often under the "correct" circumstances.)
@kwd57
@kwd57 4 ай бұрын
@@bobbygene8274 The main reason for me going with a AGM type battery is for no more acid leaking and corrosion problems that go along with standard batteries. I don't mind paying extra to not have to deal with the mess and damage they cause.
@rhamph
@rhamph 4 ай бұрын
On the well repair videos I watch duct tape dies within a few years but electrical is still good decades later. Matches my other experiences with duct tape too. The stuff really is garbage, temporary only.
@gtpforever
@gtpforever 4 ай бұрын
Maintenance reset is easy. Up, up, esc, down, up, esc, up, enter go to dealer edit and select the reset maintenance option. 🤷‍♂️
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Bingo
@boomer9900
@boomer9900 3 ай бұрын
I had a battery explode in one of the older Generac models 12kw.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
It happens allot because the chargers are not a trickle charger. Then the water level gets low and boom. I’ve lost windings thanks to battery acid. Great product they had there. 🤔
@ctbt1832
@ctbt1832 2 ай бұрын
They should’ve done a load test
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 ай бұрын
We don’t carry load test equipment around in the truck. I don’t know one company in my town that has it, about all you might get is running up a few appliances that are heavy.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
Stainless steel bolts and nuts help Clean every two months and fill with destill water
@briancarlisi2224
@briancarlisi2224 4 ай бұрын
Nice work. Permatex Silicone works well sealing the tops of the terminals. Glad to see Ohio is more than snow & corn fields, lmao😂
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
We got a lot of both 😂
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
You don't want to seal the tops of the terminal.
@briancarlisi2224
@briancarlisi2224 4 ай бұрын
@@bobbygene8274why not??? I’ve never had any issues doing this over 40 years.
@jimmieblue6262
@jimmieblue6262 4 ай бұрын
I will stay old school . I know it will work when i need it.
@jamesnasium4035
@jamesnasium4035 3 ай бұрын
That's a Mitsubishi motor ain't it? Can't blame Ford for that. Heck I wouldn't blame Mitsubishi either. It's that fine Wisconsin engineering.
@jonnymac31
@jonnymac31 4 ай бұрын
Sweet deal
@marlawhite3682
@marlawhite3682 4 ай бұрын
what state are u in?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Ohio
@RichardSevcech-hz3xu
@RichardSevcech-hz3xu 4 ай бұрын
That first thing I check
@boracare
@boracare Ай бұрын
I passed on this generator at 18k
@kangaroogod
@kangaroogod 4 ай бұрын
👍🏽
@travismaier4567
@travismaier4567 4 ай бұрын
Had a guy call me this winter with a no start. The Venturi flaps were stuck a little but enough for the step motor not to move. Started it to only find he blew all the fuses in the ESAM. Fucking guy was pissed at me because generac wouldn’t talk to him. Pays to be certified😁.
@travismaier4567
@travismaier4567 4 ай бұрын
Also thanks for not showing that code
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
If they’re fast they can get it but I try not to totally screw other techs over.
@travismaier4567
@travismaier4567 4 ай бұрын
Very true. People don’t need to be on our side of things. We don’t need to their dick skinners too.
@georgeschilens8557
@georgeschilens8557 4 ай бұрын
I'm curious as to why you start your video bad mouthing the manufacturer of the product, as you just showed that it is usually a lack of preventative maintenance that causes the unit to fail ? I use to work on all types of generators and all will fail without good serviceing !😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Watch my other generator videos on Generac and you’ll see why. Generac training is in adequate and their first generation generators are total garbage.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvivalI agree with you
@LouisS-cs7bh
@LouisS-cs7bh 4 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Would you consider the Cummins RS25 a good/reliable unit?
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
@georgeschilens8557, If you had any experience as a generator tech, you would understand. I was a generac "certified" tech - Air Cooled up to 150 kW liquid cooled, same with Kohler and Winco. Generac's will *sometimes* not work when nothing is wrong-as the video mentioned there have been quality issues-very frustrating. But, sometimes, not "usually", it is lack of maintenance as you stated.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
@louis Cummings is normally good but a lot of companies are smacking a good companies name on poor product just so they can sell it so you gotta make sure you investigate each individual one. Sometimes it’s just a matter of knowing how it’s built to see if it’s gonna be a good generator or not unfortunately that doesn’t help the consumer.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 4 ай бұрын
11 kw, that's an old one, but not the ancient controller.
@antoniosagamuccio7370
@antoniosagamuccio7370 3 ай бұрын
Yup, uses enough gas to run 4 furnaces, what's a battery here and there.
@rlwoods61
@rlwoods61 3 ай бұрын
You mean you can't use channel lock type pliers to pull a fuse?😂
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
It works just don’t squeeze too hard. 😂🤣👍
@W4BIN
@W4BIN 4 ай бұрын
A very dusty old stock battery. Ron W4BIN
@dsonyay
@dsonyay 2 ай бұрын
And a new battery that doesn’t meet specs on day 1. Not a good sign
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 ай бұрын
It’s also a cheaper meter.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 ай бұрын
GenericCrap, I mean Generac.....
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
GenerJunk
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 ай бұрын
OMG, "how dare you", reverse the test leads on checking battery voltage. 🤣 IDGAF, as long as you know they're reversed and the voltage is still within range. lol
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Exactly 👍
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 4 ай бұрын
Mice cause havoc often
@rpsmith
@rpsmith Ай бұрын
Thanks to changing the plastic wire insulation over to a soybean based product!
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 Ай бұрын
@rpsmith yes. On Heavy equipment farm equipment cars trucks etc soy based plastic insulation on wiring a huge problem. Honda makes hot spice pepper tape to wrap wiring. We used on my boat outboard motor.
@biffhenderson1144
@biffhenderson1144 4 ай бұрын
Interesting that you know the right way to do things but choose not to. Glad your not my employee.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
You’re hilarious. Go back to your desk job. You already know everything, there’s no reason to be watching KZbin.
@gingyberrie
@gingyberrie 4 ай бұрын
#fuelpump
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Show me where that fuel pump is?😁
@tallbrian100
@tallbrian100 4 ай бұрын
500 cca for a lawn mower engine. LOL
@pickles5150
@pickles5150 4 ай бұрын
Thank God for the mute button.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
😂
@bobbygene8274
@bobbygene8274 4 ай бұрын
Ear plugs.
@jim_ward
@jim_ward 3 ай бұрын
If that was my gen set, I would be pissed you replaced a battery when all it needed was clean terminals.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 3 ай бұрын
You don’t listen or think. You’re just like the other guy that said the same thing. The battery was 8 years old and the customer chose to replace it. Do your own work then if you know so much✌️
@hitekrednek66
@hitekrednek66 2 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you don't like Generac generators?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 ай бұрын
I own two portable Generac’s. A 8kw and an inverter that’s 2.2kw
@tinasaucier
@tinasaucier 2 ай бұрын
Gena junk
@SparkTubes
@SparkTubes 4 ай бұрын
Not smart. Don't be dissin FORD. You just cut 1 out of 10 possible subs. no sub here, no like here.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
You’ll get over it. If you’re butt hurt over that, you’re not the kind of viewer I want. Ford, Chevy, Jeep they’re all junk and I’ve owned all of them.
@bills6946
@bills6946 4 ай бұрын
You don’t go to your barber when you have a tooth ache. Why would you call your air conditioner company to fix your generator? Unless, of course, they are certified to repair generators. Stay in your lane.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I was commercial certified and residential. I am highly doubting you went for Commercial. Most electricians are lucky if they even know a damn thing about generators. So I’m not sure what lane you’re in, but you should probably make sure you even know where you’re at before you try to tell me what lane to get in. This is. basic freaking electricity
@gtpforever
@gtpforever 4 ай бұрын
I'm going to assume that the reason is because most HVAC companies are who do the generator installs. 🤷‍♂️
@erinocean3845
@erinocean3845 4 ай бұрын
It's an appliance, so why wouldn't they be able to work on it since they're certified to do so and clearly know what their doing? Gen dealers can be any EMP Company. Clearly you don't get it, might want stay in YOUR lane.
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