How to Go to Hell in Every Religion (Minor Religions)

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

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[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

Does Ground news have a non-US mode/Netherlands/Ireland/European mode? I'd hate getting bombarded with even more US news then I already am, and I'd prefer not to have a bias detector which just goes from right wing to extreme far right wing, that would be pretty useless to me even though it's the main draw.

[@CatFish107]

Absolutely not. Use your imagination and pretend I posted goatse in response.

[@discobanana0394]

Hey this is a completely random question but I was watching some of your videos and you bring up the point of the Bible being interpreted many ways as evidence against God's existence? I was wondering what method of communication you were talking about that would be interpreted the exact same way for everyone, because I don't understand how that would happen

[@aarnikka]

"You've been told to go to hell, but you weren't given any instructions on how to get there. Rude!" I know right from this point on whenever someone tells you to go to hell they should have to explain which religion's hell and instruct you on how to do it.

[@keksi6844]

Only Islam clearly explains Hell and Heaven and Afterlife. All other religions are missing that and have many made teachings.

[@Oblivion9996]

I will be asking "Which hell, and how?" in the future

[@annemurphy8074]

@@keksi6844Only Islam? Islam is no more real than any of the other world's religions.

[@jan_Niwe]

Pastafarianism is pretty clear

[@digojez]

@@keksi6844 quite sure other major religions also explains how it's done

[@uncleriktovan]

New speedrun guide dropped.

[@TheDecentt]

This is the correct answer.

[@Esperchu]

Going for the "Meeting Angel Dust" WR.

[@gael44444]

Hell%

[@Nathouuuutheone]

This video also sets a record in another category: how fast can a religious guest contradict themselves in service of a dangerous cult (without edits)

[@enojahwalker6670]

😂

[@TheAntiburglar]

Instructions unclear: traversed through three minor heavens, two demi-hells, seven limbos, and one very nice little tea shop in the Scottish countryside.

[@Randomize12345666]

I can guess which one you enjoyed the most

[@joshuah4952]

Weird. I wound up in a tiny community in southeast Michigan.

[@12jswilson]

​@@joshuah4952last one must be the Hell for Ohioians

[@TaeyxBlack]

plot twist: the tea shop is the only real hell

[@JBF-g1w]

​@@TaeyxBlack The Tea Shop is good for tourists. But Hell for undesired migrants.

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Thanks for having me Drew! It's an honor to share the screen with such amazing scholars.

[@EatPrayAnime]

Same! It’s good company 😁

[@rib0fl4v1n]

@@EatPrayAnime i just have to say i absolutely loved the section you did! you helped spark a genuine interest in a religion, which for me, an ex christian (specifically evangelical), doesnt happen very often if ever ! as someone who's grown up without knowledge of many other religions that aren't abrahamic, your explanation was amazing and really stirred up that desire to learn more! it almost felt like a teaser, it was great!! on my way to binge all your videos on shinto and any other media covering it i can find :D !! thank you again !

[@EatPrayAnime]

⁠@@rib0fl4v1nomg you just made my WEEK! 🥹 This is exactly why I do it, thank you and I hope you continue to enjoy learning about Shinto and new things in religion in general. I’ve been on a long hiatus while finishing my PhD, but I’ll be back in January, if not sooner! ☺️ You’re always welcome to contact me if there’s something specific you’d like to learn about and don’t know where to start. But I wrote the Intro to Shinto videos for Religion For Breakfast so that (and my stuff) is a good place. 😉

[@EatPrayAnime]

Tbh there are a looooot of exvangelical Shinto practitioners in the West 😆

[@SRJ7798]

Can you explain or shed light on why this is the case, or how these are related---- Ahuras are good guys, and daevas are evil in Zoroastrianism. And, daevas are good, and ashuras are evil in hinduism. Both of them bordered each other too, so there might be some connection between them.

[@KLBizzy1]

How to have a honest spiritual experience. Step 1: Incidentally get high on DMT without knowing it. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Prophet

[@nerdygraves]

The layers to this joke are hellish

[@AngelOfDC]

Well...not _wrong_

[@renee1857]

Moses be like-

[@shawnwrighty9257]

😂 lol stay away from those burning bushes in the desert!

[@graduallyatheist-l7p]

How to become a prophet: 1. Forget to take your medication 2. ??? 3. Hallucinate and say whatever

[@Rose-uf1eh]

Most religions just need you to be gay so i got this speed run in the bag

[@zjmyoutube7168]

YES you and me gayly speed running hell

[@normalchannel2185]

Eh, i don't think most religions do. Other than the Abrahamics.

[@scarlethart7745]

So that's why we walk so fast!

[@FRADAVE02]

I'm right there with you, bub! 🏳️‍🌈

[@underoakss]

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure being an atheist/non-believer gets you to hell in pretty much every single one

[@jacobd1984]

Looking forward to the sequels: How to go to hell (extinct religions); and How to go to hell (fictional religions)

[@teacozea]

I would be so stoked

[@lionpazam]

I would love to know how to go to Hades

[@delos2279]

"How to go to hell (fictional religions)" either all of them are fictional or all of them except one (pick your favorite to be non-fiction) so he kind of did that already 🤔

[@markvickery5894]

@@delos2279they mean religions that aren’t actually practiced and we’re made up for a fictional story

[@delos2279]

@@markvickery5894 Yea got it, I was being pedantic. Though on that note I can't think of any writers/lore that goes into that kind of detail for their stories. Maybe Warhammer or D&D?

[@rolfboettger9490]

When asked how to get to "hell" in Zoroastrianism, "sexual sins" are mentioned, and then the first thing used to describe this vague concept is sex outside of marriage - not rape or sexual assault. A lot of religions seem to get their priorities wrong when it comes to sex and relationships.

[@diansc7322]

yup! Masturbation was also a heavy sin in that religion, with grave punishments

[@chillero3heftig712]

Yes but you forget that the mob does not care. The victim must have wanted it and dressed in a way to lure someone, and not to forget they're demonic either way. Effectively, it's very rare that a culture makes a difference between getting raped and having sex

[@Insightfill]

So many of them end up as variations of the patriarchy, don't they?

[@reptilesspurky937]

​@@InsightfillNot even close as both genders are up Holden to the same standards

[@fish5671]

Uh no. Zorostrianism at first had no place to go after death and instead you had to do good things, help others and have "good thoughts" so you would be remembered by others and then supposedly abrahamic influence creeped in and at this point if you had commited bad deeds, had bad thoughts and harmed others, you would be eaten by demons/ turned into one or something to that extent. Source: Iranica

[@TheZahirNT2]

17:20 it’s wild to equate murder and sexual assault with divorce… especially since in some cases it’s divorce that is needed to prevent those very things from happening.

[@brooksfaucette296]

As an exmo tbh i dont remember divorce being something mentioned often as a sin, so ive always been surprised when mormons say it is

[@hemlocklatte]

Don't forget coffee...

[@-qi8dt]

He just listed things off the top of his head and here you are assuming he equated murder and sexual assault with divorce. How warped even is your vision?

[@heyyodude8637]

@@-qi8dtI don’t think the op meant that at all. Reread it 😊

[@TheWTFcakes]

@@-qi8dt he listed them all as terrible things that will get you sent to "a place reserved for Satan and his demons" they're obviously being equated as bad enough

[@jessica_in_japan]

I've lived in Japan for nearly 20 years and never fail to find it fascinating how most Japanese people say they are not religious at all, despite all of the Shinto and Buddhist rituals and ceremonies they do throughout their lives, even in every day life. Even many of the superstitions and beliefs (such as not wanting the head of your bed to be facing north) are rooted in religion. Also the whole idea of tsukumogami, where literally anything (from rocks to trees to swords to brushes) could potentially become a kami if it gains enough "spiritual energy." I'm an atheist, but I really love the general mindset toward religion here and diligently go to shrines on New Year's (and other times) to ask for good luck.

[@utenatenjou2139]

IHMO, I see this as western's idea of religion vs Japanese regarding rituals. Religion rituals can be considered closer to traditions, yes it rooted in religions. Giving example, like I you a believer of Abraham religion you don't participate with pagan's activities. In reverse term, being an Atheist in Eastern society doesn't' have a dogma that you DO NOT participate in religion traditions. (Note: this can be viewed as Half-ass, hypocrisy)

[@silencedogood8800]

I have never been to Japan, and loathe anime.. with exception to ONE studio.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli The stories this studio makes, are about creatures and spirits from a time where magic and science were intertwined.

[@lyndislegion287]

I would argue that it is similar to an atheist celebrating christmas or easter. The religious parts aren't really important anymore, but it is still something most atheists do for the sake of tradition

[@ubermenschzarathustra862]

​@@lyndislegion287 Nah most of us still do believe in those spiritual things, it's not just for fun

[@ubermenschzarathustra862]

​@@lyndislegion287it's more spirituality leaning rather than the western concept of gods

[@ethanhess8230]

I love that Shinto idea of "spectator mode" where your spirit inhabits an invisible overlay of the world and you can watch and see what's going on

[@EatPrayAnime]

😂

[@Molly-jh4kz]

Someone needs to start an ex-mormon metal band and call it outer darkness.

[@RickCarleton]

On a whim I checked to see if there was a band named Outer Darkness and yes, yes there is. Black Metal, but of course!

[@Molly-jh4kz]

@RickCarleton Thank you for doing my work for me, lol.

[@Aerythraea]

@@RickCarletonIs it any good?

[@RickCarleton]

@@Aerythraea Seemed fine but not really my thing so I can't judge. It's on KZbin.

[@tylerdyson8410]

Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.

[@danielmalinen6337]

There is no equivalent of hell in Finnic mythology, but the conditions in the Finnic afterlife, i.e. the underworld, are like in hell, but according to Finnic mythology, the dead actually like it and feel cozy and comfortable there. They sleep on a stone in cold, dark and damp rooms and the food is spoiled and the beer is swarming with worms, but they have forever lasting and never ending feasts in the Tuonela hall. The downside is that you have to spend eternity in the state and conditions you were in at the time of your death, for example those who drowned are wet and those who burned have burns and etc, but it is proof for the ferry maiden of Tuonela river that you are dead (otherwise, no access and no entry). However, this may be influenced by the view that no person is good or bad, but that all people are gray and morally vague.

[@kaloarepo288]

I'm a classical music buff and love Sibelius' "Swan of Tuonela" - such evocative music with that cor anglais!

[@tux_duh]

Although there aren't many sources at all I like researching Old English paganism, Hel from my understanding to them was cold wet and filled with snakes so it tracks

[@JJ-hb9in]

Why would we talk about hell when we are already born there 😜

[@TheCollapsedPsi]

I appreciate Dan pointing out the tension in the LDS soteriology. One thing he didn't mention is that outer darkness is often spoken as being reserved for someone leaving the faith. It's used as a manipulation tactic to either keep Mormons in active membership or shame those that have left. I'm not saying this off-hand; these are things that have been told to me by family and friends after I left the faith.

[@MDaggatt]

This is might be biased because I'm in a very liberal area and fairly young, but I was taught that outer darkness is for anyone who had an undeniable testament of Christ and still chose to leave the faith and speak out against it, so basically only an apostle or prophet who then chose to leave and become anti-mormon could go to outer darkness.

[@MrgoldenRose]

stay strong

[@blondieHPfan10113]

​@MDaggatt that describes a lot of ex mormons though and it's still manipulative

[@chaotickreg7024]

​@@MDaggattYeah I've been told similar. They want to think outer darkness has absurd requirements so that they can say god is merciful, and it also means that exmormons must not have had sufficient faith in the first place. It cheapens a lot about the religion tbh.

[@AnnoyingNewsletters]

An Apostle or Prophet ostensibly would have gone through the Second Anointing, and thus would be all but immune to going to Outer Darkness.

[@EatPrayAnime]

Thanks for the invite Drew! Great to rep Shinto and provide some Hell-adjacent afterlife alternatives 😆⛩️

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Thank you for joining me for this! I learned so much!

[@hellofwinnie]

It was the most clearly presented part, at least for me 💯 thank you!

[@Insightfill]

I love the phrase "Hell-adjacent"! Yesterday, I was talking to a Catholic person married to a Jewish person and she called herself "Jewish-adjacent." I told her that I had also heard it called "Jew... ish."

[@ashas8567]

Me and my bestie are enjoying your segment on girl's night @eatprayanime!

[@danoberste8146]

Stick with Baptist Hell. That one is easy to get into, I accidentally do it several times a day. 🤷🏽

[@JovanDacic]

*does a happy dance* Whoops. Damned again.

[@rikospostmodernlife]

​@@JovanDacic oh fuck -Puts rivers of Nihil and does a dissatisfaction dance-

[@yeahaddigirl]

I'm looking for a challenge. After all fundie baptists didn't teach me moderation in any flavor. Need to fry my bacon and Imma do it good.

[@kenshin4113]

You could call it predestined.

[@NateF-tw2kl]

I currently live in Baptist hell 🥲

[@kchardisty]

drew is out here producing movie length videos for us

[@angesystem23]

As a shinto believer the person you had on to discuss it was really good at explaining the concepts clearly ^^ i come from a protestant background and have been practicing shinto for about 12 years now. It has been healing for me after suffering from religious trauma in christianity.😊

[@fireblossom9618]

Are there a lot of Christians in japan?

[@kaloarepo288]

@@fireblossom9618 Back in the 16th century when Christianity was introduced to Japan by the Portuguese there was a huge number of conversions to it especially in the south. Whole clans like the Satsuma converted and the central government became so alarmed that they initiated one of the most vicious persecutions of Christians in all of history - it made the ancient Romans look like amateurs! People thrown into volcanoes and all that but Christianity went underground and in the process metamorphosed into a different religion. Then Japan was opened up in the mid 19th century and missionaries came back this time mainly American, British and Protestant. Catholicism continued however and the center of Catholicism in Japan was the southern city of Nagasaki - yes the city obliterated by the A bomb that actually was dropped right on top of the Catholic cathedral! Ironically Japanese Christians obliterated by a American bomb. Catholics even have their own very high prestige university in Japan and many other educational and charitable institutions. Protestants the same and even the Russian orthodox have a presence.

[@EatPrayAnime]

⁠@@fireblossom9618hey there, it’s Kaitlyn from the video! There are some, still a minority, I actually teach at a Catholic university in Japan (but am not Catholic lol). But Shinto is also practiced outside of Japan (this is exactly what I focus on in my research).

[@JJ-hb9in]

@@fireblossom9618pretty much only obnoxious foreigners who can’t stop trying to change Japan into what America is

[@arenkai]

There's a fantasy series where their version of Hell is actually another planet in their solar system from which Humans come from originally before they rendered it unhabitable by abusing their divine gifts. And I think that's deeply poetic.

[@dreambeam3837]

to ask, can you tell what series is that?

[@ahakddiwnfs1742]

​@@dreambeam3837 i dont think you understand. The show is a fantasy.

[@dreambeam3837]

@ oh i know i just want to go check the show out

[@planersage1117]

Oh stormlight archive. Fun fact...the author Brandon Sanderson is a mormon.

[@Isaac-hm6ih]

It's an interesting spin. The most prominent religion in that series also believes that it's necessary to have lots of wars, so the souls of the dead will be trained for the war to retake heaven.

[@deaththekidsgirl1030]

Im norse heathen and ive never felt so free. Thank you for touching on it. The gods are great

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

I’m glad you enjoyed!

[@robertsandlin366]

The real question is whether being killed by a weak individual while completely defending yourself will send you to super "hell"

[@Molly-jh4kz]

I don't know which or if I'm going to hell, but outer darkness is hands down the most metal name for hell.

[@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz]

there is a solo post-black project with that name

[@cozygoblin]

I practice a revived/reconstructed version of ancient Greek religion, I think it's really cool you included ancient Norse religion here and he talked about people reconstructing it! I think it really is becoming more popular, people want to connect with pre Christian religions. I think it's cool a scholar is recognizing that too.

[@mindlander]

I prefer Lord of the Rings.

[@alkarusalka]

Just curious, do you say you practise the reconstructed religion or just tell folks you're spiritual if they ask? ~~not meaning harm or foul, just curious~~

[@sun1one1]

Just curious, why did you choose ancient Greek religion? It seems to me that all the Greek gods were assholes.

[@VSLS06]

​@@sun1one1Majority of pagans are not mythic literalists, the myths are depictions of true stories added with supernatural stuff or created to explain certain things

[@sun1one1]

@@VSLS06 So what do you do then, if you don't worship the gods?

[@JovanDacic]

"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip." Drew and Dr. Dan have such tact that I'm packing my bags already.

[@internettevarolanadam]

You can speedrun most hells with a combination of backward long jumps and bunny hops

[@TripleOA]

"Okay, so here I'm abusing the alternate universe collision, and by clipping into universe 42, now what I do is bunny hop at x13 y87 to change my copper shortsword to a death certificate, use it to get undefined, use it, got the slightly less than 1/3 chance into the error room, and now I can jump hide to deload, run into the dev room, and now I have the debug menu, since this is mormonism hell% I'm gonna /macro mss to get into dark room, this wall right here has no collision and I've fallen into area 34, so now I'm in the outer darkness and that's time, new PB of 2M:35S:12MS, few milli-seconds off of world record though"

[@internettevarolanadam]

@TripleOA clipping into multiverse to go different hells in different realities is a game changer. That meta will cut the wr time in half.

[@stylesrj]

Is there an Underworld Skip? Because I get caught by Charon and he only takes Drachmas... and spin-jumping over the River Styx doesn't work because I'm using the PAL version... so because of the different framerate, I can't catch Charybdis in time.

[@TripleOA]

@@internettevarolanadam Yeah, I'm not the best with it though, though pause buffering between does allow you to jump while inbetween, maybe we could try that?

[@robertsandlin366]

Very easily you can enter other homo sapien's brains due to peoples being parallel-perpendicular universes, and change the past, present, and future by hopping between cultures. In addition, using backwards long jumps makes you go faster in time from your perspective, of which your perspective is what the speedrun is about, not others. Paradoxically if you want to waste time you can infinite bunny hop forwards for going back in time, and going up from gravitational centers of mass goes within the future and falling downward reverses time. Make sure you avoid being completly still because that will make time be slower for you.

[@Username_broken]

Thank you for the "How to Get the 'hot tourist destinations' Advancement Tutorial", I was trying to 100% the game

[@gand0]

Next video: how to go to hell in dead religions. Ancient Egyptians, Maya, Greek, Irish, old trukic?

[@cloverchite7777]

I had to say this because I'm a little nerd, but, in ancient Egypt they did not believe in a concept for hell! The worst fate one could have was to have their heart eaten by Ammit and fade into nothingness...being forgotten. I guess that could technically be considered their hell but yeah! Names were very important to the ancient Egyptians and they held a lot of power

[@yourface2464]

@@cloverchite7777 This kind of information is exactly why this is a great video idea.

[@cloverchite7777]

@@yourface2464 well I guess so! 😂 I wouldn't mind watching it. I'm curious

[@Miden05]

To go to Tartarus (the Greek version of hell) instead you have to REALLY bother the gods and escape certain death at least once, be such a problem for them that Zeus says: No, with you a thunderbolt isn't enough, to we send you to eternal torture in the deepest abyss of the cosmos.

[@zoewhite8072]

I would love this. As a Hellenic Pagan I often struggle to explain to people that Ancient Greek religion didn’t really believe in the concept of “sin”, but there were still thing considered bad enough that you could be punished for them in the afterlife. Would love to hear Drew’s thoughts on the difference.

[@Chaydex]

As a Norse Pagan it's wonderful to see one of my favorite KZbin professors doing a collab with you Drew. Jackson Crawford is just GOAT

[@joeymork84]

YES! Seen almost all his vids and have his books on my wishlist. Figured I was the only NP weird enough to be watching an atheist channel 😅. Hail!

[@psychsoma]

Hey hey me too!

[@enojahwalker6670]

That's funny, I just told my 6yo that the guy that helped write the non-English bits of Frozen is on this KZbin show I watch.

[@LonelyGamer4]

You actually believe in the Norse gods?

[@wolfe6220]

NP here too! This just popped up today. Good to see Jackson doing his thing👍

[@zendikarisparkmage2938]

As an ExMormon, I LOVE Mormonism being listed among the minor religions. The fewer people in this abusive cult, the better.

[@blondieHPfan10113]

I 100% agree!

[@Coyoteonthemoon]

YUP

[@siddhartacrowley]

Isn't every religion an abusive cult?

[@bjorngardson]

​@@siddhartacrowley typically, but monotheism seems the most violent, be it divine order or by the deity directly.

[@NoahStephens]

I was super thrown off when the first guy still identified as a Mormon. How does he not know better?

[@Jean-Luc_Renard]

I always appreciate it when people put effort into their work. Especially research. There's a lot of misinformation out there.

[@abbywolf9701]

Dropping this on a holiday is truly dedication 😂thanks Drew!

[@treasureandasong]

😂 i have spent the whole day alone. This was awesome! Great comment too!

[@abbywolf9701]

⁠@@treasureandasongI’m sorry you spent the holiday alone! Glad you’re here though :)

[@treasureandasong]

@@abbywolf9701 don't be sorry! It was a great day off. No pressure to perform, I didn't have to worry about offending anyone with my point of view, I got yelled at by my relative before they left for the family gathering so at least it didn't happen in front of the whole crowd. Trust me I am good 😁🥰

[@abbywolf9701]

@@treasureandasong ahhh gotcha! In that case, congrats on having a peaceful holiday!

[@willparker9772]

Love to hear a theist let alone a Mormon talking honestly and fairly about theology and the differences between sects

[@avaboyer9297]

I’ve been a fan and follower of Dan for so long, and I only discovered he’s Mormon from this video. I’m completely astonished!

[@kicunya12]

He is claiming that Mormonism is a part of the Christian religion. With how fundamentally different their cosmologies are, he wasn't too truthful

[@weirdlanguageguy]

@@kicunya12 Mormonism is 100% Christian in that it's centered around the atonement of Jesus as the divine savior of humanity. Most forms of mormonism are even explicitly trinitarian as well! Brighamite Mormonism, which accounts for about 98% of all Mormons, is incredibly heretical compared to traditional Christianity, though.

[@kicunya12]

@weirdlanguageguy in mormonism, women's ability to go to heaven is entirely dependent, not on her actions and sins during life, but on her husband calling her secret name, which goes against basic principles of Christianity. Each of Mormon couples, after going to Mormon equivalent of heaven, becoming gods themselves and creating their version of the Earth, doesn't bode well with Christianity being monotheistic either

[@avaboyer9297]

I’d love to know if Dan has any literal religious beliefs as a Mormon or if he’s more of a cultural Mormon. I’ve followed him for a long time and I’m completely shocked, I had no idea he was religious. I have no idea how someone can be such a critically thinking academic as he is, and still hold literal beliefs in a religion like Mormonism. So fascinating.

[@trevanon7450]

He did an interview on Mormon Stores podcast. It is over 14 hours him talking about his life and about the belief system

[@avaboyer9297]

@ I’ll go listen, thanks!

[@Typical.Anomaly]

It's like getting every ending on Chrono Trigger

[@enojahwalker6670]

😂

[@saulmighty]

I remember there were good endings?😅

[@darkstarr984]

@@saulmightyMostly good endings! But there’s a few of them which are totally weird, too

[@moodyrick8503]

*_Comparative Religious Studies_** ;* Tolerance & understanding, is a direct consequence of learning what other people believe, regarding God & religion. _Refusing to look outside of your religious "box", only reinforces ignorance & fear._

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

0:36 Drew's really hooking us up with some VIPs to get us special access to the more hipster hells we've probably never even heard of. We've got a special treat thanks to some great connections here, y'all, some of these hells are really underground! Hells are gonna be lit! 🤘🔥😈🔥🤘

[@pnwmeditations]

These discussions are such a breath of fresh air! I love it.

[@micbroc6435]

This is the longest amount of time I have ever willingly spent listening to a mormon. It didn’t change my outlook one bit.

[@brooksfaucette296]

As an exmo i find it hard to understand why dan is one, he clearly cares a lot about truth and understanding the origin of scripture and all that so id love to hear his perspective in detail

[@SynThenergy]

Dan McClellan doesn't do apologetics on his social media presence. He's a good follow

[@goldwhitedragon]

Thank god for them.

[@CentaurTesticles]

@@brooksfaucette296check out his Mormon Stories episodes, well worth the time

[@chaotickreg7024]

He has to stretch it to make it work with his studies, this is not normal mormonism

[@isaaconeal4110]

I enjoyed the Shinto explanation a lot. I heard an observation about modern Japanese that they are born - Shinto, marry - Christian, and die - Buddhist. I believe this is mainly about the rituals used to celebrate these milestones in modern life not belief. I don't claim any veracity for the statement because I just don't know enough about to have an educated opinion.

[@angesystem23]

As a shinto believer, that's pretty true. There are shinto wedding rituals, but i think western weddings are more popular now.

[@EatPrayAnime]

Hey there, this is Kaitlyn Ugoretz from the Shinto part of the video! You’re right, it’s a common phrase and has some merit. I really appreciate that you pointed out that it’s about ritual milestones, not belief or official/institutional affiliation. If I had to point to specific Shinto rituals that people can be “born” into, it’s the first shrine visit (hatsumiya mairi) and coming of age (shichigosan-sai). Shinto did invent weddings, and even funerals, MUCH later on but Buddhism still has the latter on lock. 😅

[@JJ-hb9in]

Marrying in fake churches is for instagram and because things from Hollywood movies sounds kira kira (sparkling, exotic) Also Shinto weddings, in a jinja, is something created during emperor Meijis reign in the late 1800s (Meiji era started 1868), imitating Christian weddings, in that they are performed with a god witnessing Traditional Japanese weddings were family parties in the home involving a lot of drinking and joining of two families

[@ordinarryalien]

This is exactly what I've been searching for my whole life! Now I can finally go to hell in my niche religion. Thanks, Drew!

[@Smittyxc]

Just in time to discuss over thanksgiving dinner, thanks GMS.

[@scottmcintosh4397]

I'm a Wiccan. There is no concept of Hell in our belief system. --Blessed Be 🌒🌕🌘 ~~ An Eclectic Wiccan & Seven Arrows Shaman. 🌌🔭

[@SnickerDoodleBug05]

😊

[@TheZahirNT2]

Is there a belief in an experiential afterlife at all or is it more along the lines of the humanist concept that your consciousness ceases when your body and brain shut down?

[@Hilla3of5]

⁠@@TheZahirNT2 There isn’t a strictly prescribed hell or afterlife, but it doesn’t mean there aren’t concepts of existence after death. They’re just more individualized. Many Wiccans believe in some form of reincarnation and a resting place between incarnations called Summerland. But life and death are counterparts of an inevitable eternal cycle. So dying and rebirth are not usually as morality based.

[@Shibestrike]

Cringe

[@scottmcintosh4397]

@@Shibestrike Why? Is there a problem? 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🌌🔭

[@heatherroseisrflyer]

Them: “Go to Hell!” Me: “Been there. Done that. Your Mom told me to tell you that she said Hi.”

[@handlessuck777]

Tell Fentanyl Floyd I said hi next time you're down there.🗿

[@robertsandlin366]

Me: already there, *turns into invasive species*

[@barneynedward]

Me: become a major pain in the ass and get kicked out

[@jasonGamesMaster]

Lol. I love how Shinto's "guide for incurring divine wrath" is basically kill people, get bloody, and play your music too loud to annoy your neighbors, lol.

[@EatPrayAnime]

💀🔪🩸🤘

[@LARADEKA]

I am gonna feel bad for Mr. Hades for handling millions of "speedrunners" after this video... The "To hell and back" speedrun is getting hot in here, but at the end of the day, all these tell us is that they reinforce fear to keep people in line... making them unable to question the authority that binds them. Hey look, world-building.

[@IsaacMagdyRaymondGibara]

taoism, confucianism, rastafari, druze, bahai, samaritanism, native american religion, jehovas witness, sikhi. still tons

[@VSLS06]

The jehova witness don't believe in hell, if you're a unbeliever and die you just will not exist anymore

[@darkstarr984]

Will confirm, JWs don’t believe in Hell at all, they think that every nonbeliever ceases to exist and every believer after the chosen 144,000 exists in Paradise, along with all animals which haven’t eaten humans (the only sin animals can commit).

[@robertsandlin366]

It's not "native american" "religion", it's indigenous philosophies-cultures-religions. As an individual it would be impossible for me to "represent" indigenous philosophies-cultures-religions, but of me an unspecificed quality of homo sapiens make them invasive species, meaning they go to mysterious hell, which is probably reincarnation into a parallel-perpendicular universe, which is a fancy name for another "person". Being able to name yourself as a people "person" can help reduce the quality-quanity of invasion species.

[@adorp]

The Sikh believe in rebirth, not hell. TAOISM... depends on which Taoism. Ancient Taoism denies to answer a lot of mystical questions. Classical Taoism is heavily influenced by Hindu mythology, so rebirth and afterlife. Neoclassical Taoism is secular and the followers generally reject hell.

[@breebell468]

I want to know the easiest way to go to hell in the most religions. Efficiency. Maybe you could do a tier list of 'sins' with the s tier ones either getting you into a lot of hells or being really easy to do.

[@TheMAmeph]

Yes, I would like that too. I also wonder if defying good or homosexuality for example would rank higher than being a murderer.

[@shawnwrighty9257]

😂😂😂😂

[@robertsandlin366]

@@TheMAmeph Being a murderer of invasive species, like homo sapiens, can rarely send you to boring heaven.

[@hiepdoshin7846]

As a TBM (True Believing Mormon), I watched this solely for Dan McCllellan and was not disappointed

[@davidlinehat4657]

Good luck. I hope you can leave if you want to.

[@davidabbott8967]

Never thought I'd see a crossover between you, Dan, and Crawford. 3 of my favorite creators in the same video is wonderful

[@lmpossibieeunoia9910]

I wrote a short paper in an undergrad World Religions class on Jainism. It was absolutely intriguing to me. Great video. Thank you for talking about Jainism.

[@josefolly5656]

38:15 "If you're a god" Thanks, I felt included

[@jiquilisco8281]

HELL yeah, we’re checking all the boxes with this one!

[@angstpotatonerd4936]

i was kinda hoping it would be oceankeltoi you were interviewing - he’s a modern norse pagan that is absolutely amazing - but i like that you started with probably the most famous norse studies scholar. If you ever want to learn more about modern paganism, think about talking to oceankeltoi

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Ocean is a friend of mine. He’s influenced my thinking on religion a lot, and very much for the better

[@angstpotatonerd4936]

@ oh cool!

[@Reverend_Salem]

I know how to go to Hell. It's a 20-minute drive from my house.

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

The Kami really reminded me somewhat of what I know of the Fair Folk of Ireland. The details are different, for instance Fairies are more to be avoided and it's important not to make them mad, getting to live normally if you've met one is already quite a boon. But the root idea is similar. Maybe the old religion of the Gaels could be something for the next episode? Maybe with a comparison with the various later Irish Christian/Catholic beliefs?

[@EatPrayAnime]

You’re not alone in making the comparison! 😌

[@stylesrj]

Isn't there a thing where in Iceland you gotta dedicate some of your construction budget to appeasing the spirits?

[@kongrufus1]

Regarding Tyr and Frey being considered minor gods in the Norse mythology today: Some archaeologists and historians who work with this period have argued that they might have been more important during an earlier period or that perhaps most of their stories just didn't survive until today. In Denmark at least, Tyr seems to have been a very important god at some point. Tyr gave name to tuesday (tirsdag in danish) and some city names seem to be derived from Tyrs name as well (Thisted, Thise, Thy). Frey also gave name to friday (fredag in danish) and thus may also have been more important at some point. I tend to agree with those who argue for this as it seems - to me at least - that tuesday and friday would not have been named after those two gods if other gods that are more well known today were also more important than them.

[@wuhlfzebayne]

i think that's the point he was making, but i love the further elaboration on this idea

[@kongrufus1]

@@wuhlfzebayne Thanks 🙂 I thought he said that they were likely minor gods but maybe I just didn't hear that part right.

[@jacobklunder8552]

As soon as I saw Old Norse, I was hoping for Dr Jackson Crawford. An awesome KZbinr who should get more exposure.

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

"So, you've been told to go to hell but you weren't given any instructions on how to get there..." I love Drew! 😆

[@Hankathan]

1:00:00 This line really caught me off guard, lol. Loved the video! I really enjoy learning about other cultures conceptions of worlds beyond our own, so this series has been _heaven_ for me.

[@Insightfill]

19:12 It's wild that a Norse image of the afterlife is really just "more of the grind." Think about that poor woman who died at her desk last month, and she still has to spend eternity filling out TPS reports.

[@the.dirt.man.]

As an exmormon, nothing heals the soul more than bagging on the insanity

[@chaotickreg7024]

Ayyy fellow exmormon. I took Moroni's promise and read the book and prayed, god never reached out to me. So I kept learning, and the more I learn, the more absurd the whole thing gets.

[@the.dirt.man.]

@ my exmo king👑 glad we made it out, brother

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@the.dirt.man. Proud of you too brother. Remember to stop doing nightly BoM reading and instead put a little dirt under your pillow for the dirt man.

[@jayg342]

This is great! All of the gods are going to be fighting over my soul! I can only go to one Hell, so that will be an epic battle for the ages!

[@EatPrayAnime]

What if I told you that according to some Shinto theories, you have multiple souls that can go different places 😎

[@robertsandlin366]

What if I told you that the gods fighting for your soul might seperate that soul into small pieces that experience all hells all at the similar times, then they get bored of your non-experiencing soul so they reform your soul for turning into another "person". Sometimes the reformation process produces halves, thirds, quarters... which is where production of more souls happen. Because of the adaptation of the fragments of the soul in different hells, the soul will typically reform with multiple personalities or a feeling of aging.

[@Andre-qo5ek]

that is actually really interesting how hard it is to get into Mormon "hell".... the need to ACTIVELY reject a 100% interaction with god. not an interaction with a thing calling itself god. it ihas to be 100% verifiable un doubtable god ... i mean... wow.. that is the standard of evidence atheists are asking for proof of any god.. that is incredibly difficult for any religious person to prove.

[@Crikey420]

Yes we take God literally when He says He loves us. We take it literally when Jesus says He is our Father. A perfect loving God wouldnt doom His children for eternity because of a lack of faith. That takes away from Jesus Christs sacrifice as well. Its power is not limited to our mistakes. Its limited by our choices. If we one day see God face to face and tell Him to kick it, yeah thats the only unforgivable thing. Everything else can and will be forgiven of men because thats just how our Father in heaven is. You have to take into account that not everyone would want to live with God either. Doesnt mean He doesnt want them to be happy forever. And would you believe we get told blasphemy and heresy and we are going to hell for believing these things😂😂 so easy to get into hell apparently

[@Andre-qo5ek]

@@Crikey420 "Its limited by our choices. If we one day see God face to face and tell Him to kick it, yeah that's the only unforgivable thing." just seeing god is not good enough... they have to prove they are a god. Doubting Thomas was correct to doubt and incorrect for believing so quickly.

[@stylesrj]

Yeah, I ain't worshipping a conjurer of cheap magic tricks claiming to be God. Yet apparently I'm the bad guy for asking Christians to prove what they saw/heard/felt was their god and not a trickster pretending to be one...

[@Andre-qo5ek]

@@stylesrj exactly... im not falling for the false prophets that is WARNED about in the bible... the bible tells us to be careful of people PRETENDING to be the messiah and god...... i mean come on.. i need some serious evidence....

[@stylesrj]

@@Andre-qo5ek Problem I find with the Bible's warning is that they tell you the consequences of being a false prophet but not tell you had to spot one just that "You gotta wait for their prophecy not to come true" which means they get a head start.

[@sabrinahandsome8278]

This was probably my favorite video of yours. Great job, Drew and thank you for another excellent video.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it! It actually took me about 5 months to get all of these interviews so I’m glad it’s valuable to you.

[@bigblissbud]

Basically in Mormonism it's crazy hard to get to hell or outer darkness. Mormonism teaches that all will saved from death, meaning all will ve resurrected by Christ, but after they're judged, majority will still go to some kind of heaven, either it's celestial, terrestrial, and telestial.

[@hungrywallaby]

Is it not an LDS tenet that it is only in the celestial kingdom that people receive the fullness if God's presence and that the celestial kingdom is only available to the most ardent adherents of the LDS faith?

[@jirohpages]

​@@hungrywallabythat's true but they also teach that the other kingdoms such as terrestrial & telestial are still kingdoms of glory. In fact, those in the Terrestrial Kingdom still have access to Christ & the Holy Spirit still, and the Holy Spirit still ministers to the lowest Kingdom as well.

[@marvelloustraveller3559]

Basically lenient version of Christianity

[@weirdlanguageguy]

@@hungrywallaby Yes, that is accurate

[@NIL0S]

I love this. Academic exploration of the different beliefs about hell. More!

[@MarshmallowRadiation]

Reminds me of the character Daeran from the video game Wrath of the Righteous. "I for one am determined to commit as many sins as possible, so the distributive mechanism of [the afterlife] breaks when it tries to decide what to do with my soul!"

[@raakone]

My understanding of the Zoroastrian "bridge" is that it's basically like a giant knife or sword, but on a kind of servo, if one is bad, it's set to vertical, and it's next to impossible to cross. If one is good, it's set to "horizontal", and you have a much easier time (and either it widens, or the blade itself is wide one way but narrow the other)

[@Shibestrike]

no the width changes based on how good you were

[@LUM-kb2rl]

Viking history guy flipping a poker chip across his knuckles in front of a hat collection before the interview even starts is straight out of a comedy sketch.

[@thecultofcaged]

Lol im in the military and decided to go to a mormon Thanksgiving thing today for no other reason than to just go somewhere Idk why i picked mormon im not mormon i just decided to go I immediately wondered if mormons would be on the list when i saw this vid and its the first one lol very happy to see the how to

[@robertsandlin366]

Thanksgiving is-was created when colonizers thanked god for giving them the right to genocide Indians. It's concludable that indigenous peoples never always celebrate around the time of the start of the Day of the Act of Thanks.

[@RowanAshland]

My come back to "You're going to Hell" is "well, yes, but I spell it differently." Lol.

[@AudMaker]

Ngl with the Jainism Professor I was just zoomed in on the sweet baby in the background 🥹

[@AnnoyingNewsletters]

*_Bacon Wrapped Shrimp._* It essentially combines mixed fabrics with two verboten foods, utterly canceling out the sacrifice, and damning everyone within 5 kilometers.

[@martinjansson1970]

One of *my favourite versions of divine after death punishment and reward,* is that of the 18th century Swedish Christian sect Swedenborgianism, based on the divine revelations of Emanuel Swedenborg. It's 40+ years since I read his revelations, so I won't go into details, but essentially, you continue to *"live on" in afterlife with a ADHD version of the personality you had while living.* So a warmonger "live" on in constant war in afterlife, a person that lived a hollow and artificial life, "live" an even more hollow and artificial afterlife, if you were a shrew, you are an even angrier persion in afterlife, and if you lived a good and productive life, you "live" on as an even more good and productive person, with an even more fulfilling afterlife. *What make his revelations hilarious,* is they depict how a lot of actual historical, and mythical, persons live on in afterlife, it's pure comedy. *Many of the persons whose afterlife are depicted, was contemporary people that Emanuel Swedenborg had met in life.* It's often pure schadenfreude. Many of the persons, whose afterlife Emanuel Swedenborg depicted, was part of the contemporary Swedish nationalistic propaganda. So the religion was shortlived in Sweden, since it criticised a lot of national "heroes". There have been Swedish attempts at revival, many of less serious nature, but as far as I know, there are no practioners in Sweden today. But, the Swedenborgian religion, at least until the 1970's, continued to have some popularity in some parts of Africa. Supposedly because it resembled local pre-Christian beliefs and practices. If you are forced to convert to Christianity, why not convert to a sect that share similar beliefs as those you already have, and has religious practices similar to those you already practice.

[@saulmighty]

Swedenborg was a loon alright, I remember reading his books documenting prophetic visits to other planets having intelligent beings and being able to choose a wife for yourself from a topless lineup of women...😂

[@kaloarepo288]

Helen Keller who was deaf and blind was a famous convert and I believe one of the members of a famous classic rock band. Swedenborg was a genius - not just in religion but in scientific pursuits as well. He was very influential on the 19th century Romantic movement and visionary English poet William Blake was influenced a lot. Now there's a neglected figure in the field of eschatology!(Blake)

[@Reggie_la]

I wasnt thinking the old norse religion guy could get any more cool until he wiped out that poker chip

[@timbohp]

This was fun and interesting. Loved all of the different speakers!

[@Askiyayyy]

1:09 "Twitter or X or whatever..." Amazing quote!

[@RoseNZieg]

dear GMS, this year I am thankful for a video on how to go to hell. I never knew I needed it in my life. I am blessed!!

[@bjorngardson]

So glad to see Dr. Crawford on the show.

[@Tastiest-of-Cakes]

I've been to one of those "entrances to hell" in Japan. It was really interesting and beautiful, but the sulfur from the hot springs means it smells like rotten eggs everywhere. I guess that's the hellish part. It's in Aomori prefecture, where no foreigners go, but I highly recommend it. It's called Osorezan (恐山), or Mount Osore.

[@EatPrayAnime]

The smell is definitely part of it! 😭💀

[@CraigEstep]

Former Mormon here. That drawing ( 7:36 ) isn’t the one he’s referring to and the places emphasized in this drawing are the top and lowest kingdoms in the three degrees/levels of heaven which come into play after the final judgement. This drawing is a bastardized or just incomplete version that’s missing the Spirit World on Earth. Mormons believe that at death, our spirit passes through a veil (which prevents mortals from seeing spirits) into the Spirit World-and this exists all around us on Earth (when the veil is thinned, mortals can see spirits). Those who die who are righteous, who already know and accept the restored gospel (as taught by Mormons) are in spirit paradise. Those who don’t meet all 3 of those criteria above go to “spirit prison” to either be taught the restored gospel for the first time (or maybe given another chance to accept it) OR don’t accept it wait it out until their designated resurrection time (of which there are two main resurrection events yet to come-one at Christ’s second coming, and one at the end of Christ’s thousand year reign, right before the final judgement.) Or if just unrighteous and stubborn about remaining, that’s the same thing as not accepting it. Those who are unrighteous and knew the gospel and accept it in mortality, must suffer for their own sins; Christ’s sacrifice doesn’t pay for their sins. I don’t defend it, but I did once believe it thoroughly and knew all the explanations for most any question this fascinating theology may elicit from non-members, as we would refer to those outside our group (our Jew-vs-Gentile-equivalent moniker).

[@sebastian7191]

I love Jackson Crawford, awesome you had him on

[@kryptonphantom5538]

I guess Dan is a really good example of how analysis skills and critical thinking skills are not the same thing. You can have incredible skills in reading the text and taking in the finer points, comparing and cross referencing like Dan does, and still be a Mormon.

[@NoahStephens]

It’s wild to have a phD and still believe the stuff Joseph Smith made up.

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

Please make this an even larger series!

[@universeiswatching5914]

😭 im a hellenic polytheist, and when someone tells me to go to hell, i do wonder if they're sending me to THE underworld, aka being led by hermes to pay charon and get on the boat or to tartarus. Which i choose the first option!

[@brenatevi]

Great start to the video. It is rude to tell people to go somewhere without giving directions!

[@ameliaecheverria2490]

I grew up mormon and Dan was right in the fact that everyone seems to blur the line of how to get into outer darkness. From what I was taught, you had to essentially "meet god" or received a full confirmation of god/the gospel (eg. Prophets) and then entirely reject it. They would often provide Judas as an example of this They taught me it was essentially impossible for me to qualify for outer darkness. Even if i became a serial killer I would be sent to the lowest degree of heaven (telestial kingdom)

[@user-vl1tb1xx2d]

“I’m also an active member of the LDS” immediately no. Immediately no

[@weirdlanguageguy]

He's a legitimate scholar, and it's incredibly clear from his work that he prioritizes actual religious scholarship far above Mormon dogma in every single case I've seen.

[@Matt-oq4jq]

Unitarian Universalist here; instructions unclear, unable to "go to hell"

[@2LucasKane3]

So.. if i follow the instructions in this video to go to every hell possible, will there be a god-off where they fight wich over of them can send me to their hell? If so, i need to buy centuries worth of popcorn.

[@stylesrj]

I'm reminded of Skyrim where the Dragonborn could probably sell their soul off to all the Daedric Princes... and then probably walk into Sovngarde when they die if they're a Nord...

[@myheartismadeofstars]

Apparently this can happen in DnD. Gods can and will fight over you if you fit into multiple spheres of influence (the god of your work, vs a god you personally worshipped, etc) typically whatever god you were "closest" to would be the winner, but it honestly made me want make a character who worships all the gods whenever applicable

[@stylesrj]

@@myheartismadeofstars Well, there are some gods that demand praise and worship without being a devout follower of them. For example, I don't think Umberlee demands every sailor be her priest or disciple, etc. but she does demand that people respect her powers. Otherwise I don't think any Paladin could travel by boat... And now I wonder if that could be a character type... the Paladin so devout to their god they refuse to respect any other and are enemies of the gods of natural disasters accordingly...

[@VVyzard]

Something that Jackson Crawford left out was that certain ways that you lived could have you end up in certain Gods' halls (according to some sorces). For example there is one story in which Odin is trying to tease Thor that he receives the common working man in his hall whereas Odin receives kings and warriors. There's another examplaining how actually half of the battle slain actually go to Valhöl with Odin whereas the other half go to Sessrúmnir the hall of Freyja in Fólkvangr .

[@A_Good_Name550]

haven't watched the video and i am pretty sure being gay has a 99% success rate

[@thernbsnmbatutor1169]

Actually that shows how uneducated you are on the Bible

[@lachikagreen]

Pfft, the fact that you believe that should get you there faster than a torpedo

[@thechonk7462]

​@@thernbsnmbatutor1169 Interested in hearing you elaborate if you're up for it. The "all gays go to hell" sentiment is unfortunately common where I'm at.

[@XxIgor_VirgexX]

Norse religion mention!!!! Screaming in joy no one ever talks about my religion it's AWESOME to see anyone let alone this guy talk about it!

[@therealmarkzuckerberg]

Do you actually believe it, or is it more of a traditional aspect you follow?

[@XxIgor_VirgexX]

@@therealmarkzuckerberg I believe in it. Certain aspects like giants i believe to be metaphorical though, kind of how most Christians believe the 7 days of creation are metaphorical

[@beefrick9957]

Super interesting series, I learned so much! I personally don’t believe in Hell, so I’m just going to feed the worms when I die.

[@Cesaryeyo]

I'm planning a trip to Japan and now I'm definitely gonna look into visiting the gates of hell there

[@pharaoh5633]

Thanks for the tutorial 👍

[@cmrsnowflake]

What awesome guests you got

[@captainzappbrannagan]

book of Mormon one of my fav plays of all time. LDS is the joke of all the other religions though all are delusional this one really hard to understand how anyone would follow if even smallest skepticism.

[@brooksfaucette296]

Honestly when i was mormon i felt it stood up to investigation much better than other churches on st least a surface level. Ofc if you look into history or try to get into philosophy and actually be critical of church theology crscks start to form

[@KavsLockedOut]

​@@brooksfaucette296didn't they wrongly predict the end of the world like 8 times in the 200 years they've been about

[@trevinbeattie4888]

​@@KavsLockedOutYou might be thinking of the 7th Day Adventists. The only thing the Mormons have said (as far as I’m aware) about the Second Coming is “nobody knows when”.

[@Howlflame]

I might identify as atheist now, but I was raised Mormon. I appreciate you saying that it IS a Christian religion, and having a scholarly expert here.