Genmitsu 4040-Pro Max | The Best beginner CNC?

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@bcole2353 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. This is an excellent presentation. I dropped them a line a few days ago they said it would be available on Amazon in November. Again thank you very much excellent presentation.

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

I checked to see if they had it on Amazon yet to also include that link. I'll keep an eye out for it and will post that as well once it becomes available. I'm looking forward to sharing more projects with this one as I feel it's more approachable for people just dipping their tow into CNC routers.

@dalewalford2630 2 ай бұрын

A friend of mine just about to purchase one and I think I may follow suite later next year. That fish looks superb! Super helpful review my man! Well worth a like & Sub...

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I plan to show a bit more detail on the setup process in Vcarve for some projects on this machine in the near future. I’ll try to do that on the 3D carve as well.

@robbiegiglio6715 2 ай бұрын

Great Video Steve!

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@rshawiii 24 күн бұрын

If you are going to replace the spoil board, why would you not use the aluminum slotted one that Sainsmart sells for this unit? Some discussion about your views and practices on workholding would be a good subject.

@Vintauri 24 күн бұрын

That is an option for people, especially ones that might not have access to other tools to create their own. I want something a bit different than the slotted one they sell. I plan to work on this soon and show other projects along with ways I like to hold down material.

@pphalhro 2 ай бұрын

That's a useful review!!

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@FredSchmitthammer Ай бұрын

What add ons do you recommend? Controller? Which 3rd party dust shoe do you recommend? Is the upgraded spoil board a good idea? I would love to see you do some projects on this CNC. I am waiting for black Friday to see if there are any discounts. Can you recommend any other videos on your channel to learn more about CNC? Are there any other channels that you recommend to learn VCarve and CNC in general? Thanks in advance.!

@Vintauri Ай бұрын

The primary add-on would be the dust boot. I'm using the one from Genmitsu for now. I might look at others if I can find one that floats and lets the spindle move separately from it. I have a few CNC videos together in a playlist, but I hope to do a few more beginner projects to walk you through a few different types of CNC jobs to get started. I would check out @JamesDeanDesigns for some good CNC content with the Sainsmart CNCs. www.youtube.com/@JamesDeanDesigns

@MrCcfly 15 күн бұрын

how is this machine with precise machining copper or bronze ? like detailed medals or so ?

@Sophie333C 2 күн бұрын

What router speed/number are you using?

@steven_vogt 7 күн бұрын

Excellent review - very happy to subscribe to your channel 👏 I would be hugely grateful if you could offer some quick advice that I won;t hold you to later ;) I was about to pull the trigger on the Twotrees 450 PRO as my first foray into the hobby CNC world when I started seeing reviews of the Genmitsu 4040 Pro Max and I am now wondering if this wouldn't actually be a better choice for me? The rigidity of the Z gantry plus the more powerful spindle have caught my attention. The slightly smaller working area not so much. Do you have any experience with the TT450? Which would you recommend - The Genmitsu 4040 or TTC 450? (purchase price is not the primary concern here) My "shopping list" :) is: 1. Must be reasonably good quality for occasional hobby usage (no selling of work here :) ) 2. I care about the quality and precision of the final carve 3. cut through 18-24mm wood and MDF. I would also probably use to make 6-9mm templates for router work. 4. be able to cut out, engrave and do relief carving 5. Preferably have the option to add a laser module in the future (thinking in the 20-30W territory) 6. I am retirement age (that came quick! :)) and reasonably literate with using software and consumer tech etc but definitely want something where I don't have to work too hard to learn to use it. Zero interest in learning code, programming etc etc. Massively grateful if you find the time to help!

@Vintauri 7 күн бұрын

Thanks for checking out my video. I have not had any experience with Two Trees machines and there is not a lot of third party reviews out on the 450 Pro. It does look like a decent hobby machine similar to the 4040 Pro Max. Without seeing more information first hand or from trusted people I can only base my opinion on the marketing material and specs listed. The build looks simple as it comes mostly assembled. This can be good, assuming everything was properly done at the factory and bolts tightened. Any loose fitting parts will wreak havoc on your carves. I like that it has lead screws instead of belts similar to the 4040 Pro Max, however they still use the delrin rollers on aluminum channels. These are a point of wear and constant adjustment from my experience with other CNC routers. Also the mostly enclosed side rails are nice, but I would want to know how easy it is to open them up for cleaning and maintenance. Dust will get on your rails and you do need to clean and lubricate the lead screws from time to time. This is a fairly simple process on the 4040 Pro max. I do like that the TT450 Pro includes the touch screen controller and wireless module included. These are add-ons to the 4040 Pro Max. I also cannot find the specs on the stepper motors. The 4040 Pro Max uses basic Nema 17 steppers which are fine, but either closed loop motors and or some with a little more power would be nice to take advantage of the more rigid frame. As for the working area, you can get the y axis extension kit for the 4040 Pro Max to extend that to 600mm deep give you more work area. To cut 25mm deep on either machine, I would recommend getting the trim router option and 1/4" or 6mm endmills. Either one can add a laser module, however, if you have the space, I might recommend looking at a dedicated machine for lasering, as you'll want the laser enclosed with a smoke extraction system and proper cutting surface to prevent scorching of your cnc spoil board. If you are just looking at the occasional engraving it might be fine, but the lead screws will be much slower at that then a dedicated laser with belts. I'd love to take a look at the TT450 Pro to do a better comparison. It looks like it could be a decent benchtop hobby machine for someone like yourself. But I can say that I feel the 4040 Pro Max is one I can recommend for hobbyists getting started. I hope this helps a little in your decision making. Thanks for the subscription!

@steven_vogt 7 күн бұрын

@@Vintauri Wow! Thank you so much for being so generous with your time and insight! You make a very good point on the laser question - I hadn't thought of that at all. My oberall impression is that the TT450 PRO has the edge on the "bells and whistles" front (screen, bigger stepper motor on the Z axis etc) whereas the 4040 PRO Max seems to be more robust and solid... A looooot of choices out there nowadays which is a but daunting for a novice but I am leaning more and more towards the 4040 :) Thank you again!

@beentb4805 2 ай бұрын

Could you put biscuits in the spoil board

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

Biscuits would help keep them aligned but you would still want some support underneath to prevent flexing.

@markemmons1938 2 ай бұрын

When the specs reference working area, is the where one can carve into a project and perhaps place a larger piece on the machine? More specifically, can I place a 18” wide cutting board on the work surface and carve an inscription in the middle of the board?

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

There is about 20” of clearance between the two side rails so if you can hold the work in place you’d be able to carve on something that wide.

@markemmons1938 2 ай бұрын

@@Vintauri thank you for your response. That is exactly the response I was hoping for.

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

@@markemmons1938 Happy to help. I'm hoping to do a couple projects that should maximize the working area over the next few weeks, so I'll try to share how that goes in a future video.

@dudule1232 25 күн бұрын

did you receive this machine for free ?

@BillYovino 27 күн бұрын

It seems odd that this machine is so beefy yet they used Nema 17 stepper motors. Are they adequate because it uses lead screws instead of belts?

@Vintauri 26 күн бұрын

They are adequate for this machine and you'll be surprised at the speeds you can push this one to. It's not going to compare to a larger machine like my Onefinity, but it holds it's own and does not seem to be having issues with loosing steps or fighting any backlash for me so far. I'm guessing it was part of the design to keep the cost down over going with heavier duty steppers. If I see issues in the future, I'll do a follow up on it, but in the mean time, I'll be doing more project videos with it soon. Thanks for watching!

@SandyKJohnsonGlassworks 2 ай бұрын

What is the weight? I'm in an RV. My shark is too heavy for me to lift

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

My postage scale put the machine at 46.5lbs. Not something id want to take on a hike but something I could move from storage to the bench fairly easily.

@sarmentinho 11 күн бұрын

19:35 you CANNOT add extended rails... This is a big dealbreaker, because it is a well built machine, and its original rigidity would allow it. It's the main reason I don't pull the trigger on one...

@Vintauri 11 күн бұрын

You can extend the Y axis to 600mm but you cannot extend the x axis at this time.