Genuinely The Most Exciting Upcoming MMORPG - Ashes Of Creation

[@howardRE]

The guy invested $30 million in Ashes of Creation is truly the ultimate sovereign majestic supreme king nerd of nerds. Steven Sharif is the man.

[@albinlindh4000]

All hail, Lord of the Nerds

[@jacobruiter592]

Shit even has a core of 250k players playing for a year, he'll see a return of investment.

[@jacobruiter592]

@@zooplgicalresercher8518 that seems oddly specific. Do you have any evidence? Or phrasing I could look up on Google? I'm inclined to believe you, I just need something other than just your word. It will also help me defame the guy when I bring this up to others.

[@lars7747]

@@zooplgicalresercher8518 exept it is not.

[@SubmitTheKraken]

who the fook is that guy!

[@teekanne15]

MMOs are like drugs, the first one is a high that you are looking for the rest of your life

[@KnoxEmDown]

Best explanation tbh.

[@fetch_happens]

Exactly.

[@HealthyMotherfcker]

This is why everyone plays OSRS lmao

[@xFlared]

Just like masturbation. That first fap is the fap that every other fap tries to achieve.

[@afred30]

Admiral Ackbar Lmao

[@zencartii]

"As mayor you get to allocate resources, set the tax rate..." Me: *ready to become a dictator*

[@MrJesvi]

its a whole month too before you can be voted out. There definitely needs to be system that can kick dictator mayors out early if theres overwhelming majority vote

[@TheEDFLegacy]

See Also: Cities Skylines

[@LuvLexyU]

@@MrJesvi The system is : Everyone leaves the node, thus deleveling it. Or you lose all the resources required to fund the node.

[@kelvinrafael6361]

"We set tax rate..." *Soviet theme plays*

[@bazirancovek]

If the respurces that can be allocated are only for building new structures there is no reason to be a dictator unless you just want to troll and not building anything. If the resources include money then yes people will exploit it for personal gain

[@HevaNaisdey]

This is the mmo I dreamed of 15 years ago when I had so much time to waste. This is the kind of game that will destroy your life haha

[@jftemple44]

Yeah it looks amazing but I think the only time I'll have time for this is when I'm retired

[@gr33dl0cknein3]

Or make it.

[@waffleratta2861]

@Blake Thacker NAHHH I will return to the bat cave to grind Ashes Of Creation for 10 years

[@FervorGaming]

welp you got 2-3 more years of dreaming gl hf

[@rikmang]

Reminds me a lot of everquest 2..

[@tygoro]

"took 30+ hours to complete this video"... TheLazyPeon leveled up, ThePeon

[@BrianGivensYtube]

underrated comment for sure haha

[@jordimg7727]

King comment

[@eliottwarphe3343]

it's strange that "Hope" is the only and last word we have when it come to new mmorpg.

[@rekt4guud134]

been thinking that too but recently got into albion online and honestly other than the moba like controls, which i would have preferred 3rd person, its really well done in most aspects. in fact ashes of creation and albion online have tons of similarities.

[@CHAMPDOGZ]

4real

[@ZOMG_MUSIC]

Thats with any game these days the gaming industry has just become so trash. They are all copying each other just to get their microtransactions sold.

[@stu.chainz]

Becuz developers saw how blizz monetized it and want to emulate it. Blizz only succeeds cuz they already had everyone hooked they didn’t care how bad the game was, it looked pretty and forced you to come back everyday/week to hope it wasn’t as shit as the previous

[@arcamean785]

I mean most MMOs that have come out in the past 10+ years to dethrone WoW have all claimed to be "Wow killers" when it was more like a temporary stun. Rift was the one that really caught my eye then within a few months it was almost completely dead despite a really cool class system and a kinda fun fishing minigame lol.

[@Ari-vv7rr]

It honestly sounds too good to be true so just fingers crossed

[@Blake-ld7mx]

U knw its going to be ass any mmo player should knw this by now. Release with barely any content no endgame and sht gameplay

[@Realstuffspoken]

It better be good 30 million is a lot

[@Gamerad360]

The map would be twice the size of skyrim.

[@omegapointsingularity6504]

not one mention of over enchancement of items with RNG enhancements. you get an item, upgrade it, after +4 you can upgrade it with a chance to break the item. this is the worst type of item system in the mmo space.

[@Fren69420]

They released a battle royale mid development......... Can't wait to see this go like everquest next. "IT just wasn't fun hurrr hurrr hurrr"

[@monirogue1570]

Just what I've always wanted, a game good enough for me to lose my job and not even care as long as I have just enough to keep the power and internet on SIGN ME UP

[@aithjawcraig9876]

I don't have kids and live in a relatively cheap apartment. I can play as much as I want. 😋

[@blackcatpirates8134]

@@thelightsilent Sure dude 😒

[@blackcatpirates8134]

@@thelightsilent kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXqYqoOCnamEj8U

[@Freemusicwoohoo]

@@thelightsilent You know it's fully funded by the creator, if he wanted a cash grab he wouldn't fully fund it to completion on his own, using his own money. Also he's invited players into an Alpha and got people involved in the development process, so it seems as though it's highly doubtful that this is a cashgrab

[@Freemusicwoohoo]

@@thelightsilent Do you know what an Alpha is for

[@emilecoetzee230]

Assuming that everything goes without a hitch, and the ambitions are met, this will be a truly amazing experience.

[@destroyermaker]

Nothing this complex goes without a hitch

[@chrisvillapas4887]

You could say that about any game pre launch

[@zacharydellacqua9272]

This game takes a shit on New World's face.

[@Beezo-2099]

I said the same thing about Star Citizen.....in like....2014

[@RE-sc9bz]

Ya, no way they pull this off lol. Too ambitious... plus action combat is just the worst in mmo's.

[@jamesdiato]

Maaaan nothing is exciting to me anymore until I get my hands on it and play it. Feels like im just constantly waiting for the good shit to come out already. Anyone else feel this way?

[@AlexisA90]

Yep ! Same feeling !

[@nemoalice8559]

Feel ya

[@yvak1232]

Yes. Ain't got years to wait

[@themagescorner]

Yep. Same with cyberpunk, BG3 etc..

[@eeuwke0]

Yeah, I've been waiting for ages on Lost Ark but there's a small light on the horizon that grows a bit bigger by the month :/

[@someaussiebloke4487]

"extremely sceptical to cautiously optimistic" I'm still sceptical but slightly optimistic. Very ambitious hope they can pull it off

[@veeshan6164]

Sounds too good to be true.

[@kingofta99]

ashesofcreation.com/r/1BUZ8CNN9M3J5UEC

[@someaussiebloke4487]

We have all been burned by companies making big promises and not delivering. Archage was a big let down for me

[@kennethnoisewater4423]

@Shaxx If content creators have beta access and no NDA then at least we'll see it coming, and with no box cost you won't have to pay the cost of a full game to try it for yourself.

[@ike9350]

Exactly how I feel the alpha looks very clunky and the combat looks boring but its still early

[@TheTommyy1995]

This seems almost too good to be true

[@raizaintilian]

Let’s just hope that this game is actually good

[@noneofurbusiness906]

Right?

[@duback1209]

@Silent Youngsters It's not a kickstarter MMO at all like 10% of the money is from the community and it's not going to be p2w

[@mal4797]

Let's not put up expectation then.

[@SuvashinM]

Me saying this before I download every rpg I've ever downloaded... Now I'm here D:

[@Jesse__H]

The only thing that makes me concerned about this game is the same thing that makes me excited: it's just really really ambitious. Here's hoping they can pull it off! 🤞

[@Gutigwolfe]

Thats what I thought. Its the perfect vision, lets just hope it doesn't just die as a vision. Companies have had visions like this before and their game comes out half assed and people get bored quick and the game dies. I hope that doesn't happen here.

[@jimmyn7t]

yeah i mean it's not that they are 2 years behind schedule already, they delete comments from their videos and they dont even let everyone with the alpha1 package play the game cause after 2 years of "polishing" they are still behind and they let only those who gave 4digit number money for their a1 packages.

[@ItsAkosa]

@@Gutigwolfe i think what gives alot of people hope is the lead person of the project funded his own 30 million to help fund the project. He's also done even done interviews with small content creators. He's a really humble guy and you can just see the passion he has for this project!

[@Gutigwolfe]

@@ItsAkosa definitely an upside. I really hope it does well

[@Jesse__H]

@@ItsAkosa Yeah I mean, you don't see Chris Roberts dropping _eight figures_ of his own money into Stat Citizen (lol).

[@reznovvazileski3193]

This sounds very ambitious, if they are the first ones to actually pull this type of MMO off, it will definitely be my main spare-time activity.

[@sspectre8217]

This sounds amazing, such a shame it won’t come out for Mac. Or at least I highly doubt it. Hope to get to play it one day

[@augustlewen]

@@sspectre8217 you have time to save some money for a pc, this game womt release for a few years

[@lavablader6949]

They revealed it would release in 2020 but they said the release date is subject to change.

[@reznovvazileski3193]

@@lavablader6949 For a game like this it feels like the latter is more likely or preferable even. You don't wanna rush genius, or genius turns to Wolcen 2.0.

[@anethmuh6562]

@@lavablader6949 They said alpha 1 will release by the end of the year, not the full game. They still have alpha 2, beta 1 and 2. They specifically said they don't give out dates unless they know for sure they can make them.

[@Skippy0330]

omg. this is the feeling i've been missing about a game for the last 15 years.

[@brandongranville3225]

Exactly people like you and me can finally breath and know we have something finally GREAT on the way, the last decade hasn't lived up to most standards.

[@gabbyv8567]

is the game avaible now? how do i download it

[@ban1176]

@@gabbyv8567 u have internet to search. Its not, its not even alpha yet. It could take 5 years for this game to be finished.

[@Twizted86]

At the same time though; you should be weary of getting hyped over things that aren't available yet as the past 15 years have had a whole variety of hype, yet the results that followed have been somewhat of an anticlimax.. It looks promising, but I'm not going to get excited until it's out of beta. Edit: the past 20 years has formed a very sceptical shell around my optimism for games that look this good lol.

[@Genosis]

Exactly this; I haven't felt much of a sense of wonder for a game since EverQuest and early WoW. I retired from MMO's after getting bored of WoW for the 5th time, and burning out on SWTOR after the story dried up. The best sentiment I heard on the subject was "MMO players are like beat dogs, it's not easy to trust again.". Everyone will be cynical or cautiously optimistic. I am opting to be optimistic and placing my bets on AoC. The genre needs a good game, and this has the most potential I've seen in a while.

[@terang5189]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GAME TO LAUNCH FOR YEARS. I'M GOING TO BE A GRANDFATHER SOON. I HOPE THAT MY EYES ARE STILL GOOD WHEN THE GAME FINALLY LAUNCHES

[@korveen07]

Congrats in advance!

[@SU1_cidalDadbro]

o7 Pogchamp, man!

[@lafleurstudios]

looking like a 2-3 year release wait. But the second alpha will be dropping later this year or early next year. Might be worth looking into

[@ssjkaryuusennin]

you're the only grandfather with oreki as his pfp

[@bultenlol]

grandfather my ass lol

[@michealarmonda3039]

Me : this game looks very go- My 6 year old laptop : dont even think about it .

[@xFlared]

Same with me except it's my job and time.

[@gioraepstein6392]

bro, i felt that -_-

[@crusadurus]

Dont worry, based on their time table its unlikely to even come out in 2021 so you have time save up for the computer. Edit: Actually that timeline states they want the beta to be short, alpha is what is normally considered the beta and they hope to have the beta be the polishing state so a 2021 release wouldnt suprise me. Dono how far off they will be able give a release date/window.

[@akachiteam6996]

@@crusadurus Most likely end of 2022 or start of 2023

[@giacomobergonzi4906]

this exatly

[@NannyOggins]

Becoming Mayor sounds like a lifelong commitment, I can imagine players giving the Mayor a really hard time if they are not online for a few days!

[@kylestroup3077]

There are players out there for woW, Everquest etc that made it their life. I definitely see after 6 months or so most mayors begin those kind of players

[@AnimeFreakish78]

the mayors in these games will be the kind of high level player we all secretly know has a severe gaming problem but nobody will say anything about it.

[@wegelingetje]

just be a famous streamer and boom, you have your mayor position secured

[@williammay4476]

@@wegelingetje Hm, didn't think about that but yeah that could be a problem..... Term limits?

[@wegelingetje]

@@williammay4476 well the solution is servers, let the streamers have their server and lets HOPE i get on a server without the streamers, asmongold is the one who more or less decides what the streamer server wil be, just dont go on that one ;)

[@kaze3240]

This is almost like an alternate reality. I could see players not logging out for days!

[@karynrios9140]

Kkbgvvv: kvvvvvvvvvvvv

[@jjfrank]

This sounds like the MMO of my dreams, everything I’ve always wanted combined into one game. My only concern is what the combat will be like. If they nail that, this could actually be the WoW killer we’ve been expecting for the past decade.

[@RevRyukin7]

That's why I don't play RPGs. Lack of good RP, and gameplay. I don't wanna stand around and click. That's not fun. That's not skill.

[@Kathayne636]

@@RevRyukin7 How should you be able to play without clicking the mouse? Through sheer mind power?

[@RevRyukin7]

@@Kathayne636 Your focus should be the standing part + clicking. It's useless moving because jumping and walking or running doesn't actually evade. Shit just auto hits. Real physics or bust.

[@saseeshalla6395]

Hey uhh I've been following the game a bit, the gameplay is being developed to have weight and feel like GW2

[@alexp5569]

@@RevRyukin7 I get what you mean. I dislike that about some RPGs too.

[@olly3231]

Honestly, I am not believing in "the perfect mmorpg" again. I wish this game could achieve what it's going for, but... you know how it is. We should be skeptical of games which promise too much.

[@Saintphoenix86]

My thoughts exactly

[@moebiwan]

100%. The internet is littered with the corpses of 'next big thing' MMOs. Still, I can't help but get at least a little interested in a game that promises shades of UO, EQ, and WoW in one.

[@edwardfathers2346]

There will never be a 'perfect mmorpg' that's too unrealistic, I've been in most of the ashes twitch streams and from what I see, they have been doing really well with that they promised and I'm definitely excited. But I am biased as I've followed them since kickstarter 😁

[@12P14D22C]

very true. but the men in charge did an interview with asmongold and with shroud/summit1g and it sounds like he understands whats important in an mmoRPG. So my hype for this game did go up quite a lot the last few days.

[@hobosquidsquidhobo507]

Where is it claiming to be 'perfect', you're reaching for argumentation. I agree btw, not only might this not be perfect, it might as well be a hoax *gasps*. On the other hand, this isn't 2008 where most commenters pull their 'wow killer failure' facts and arguments from but one full decade after, during which we have seen nothing but failed or semi-failed projects which did nothing but heighten the demand for mmorpgs. So basically all of us are doing nothing but guessing but the developers are steadily releasing footage and info which is reaffirming their stance and promises. So I'm going with optimism as they haven't yet done any of the NMS or Activision bullshit that people are being wary about. Who wants to play 'insert game' from 2 decades ago for eternity?

[@WillEmmo]

I didn't expect another MMO after WildStar to truely get me hyped anew for the genre again. Will be following AoC very closely for sure!

[@Filmsimulation]

Hello guys, willie here.

[@Preacher_.]

WillE! 👏😮

[@DontreadPimpBoy]

Check out Subverse if yu want to be hyped

[@rodrigoleonhart1846]

WillE !! Love u man!

[@anasheoaki]

Yo bud did you see asmons interview with the lead dev

[@KieranTheBassist]

>ship building > open world pvp > human race PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEE

[@danfontaine8179]

Would be cool if they had between node trading for specific regional resources similar to the caravan thing and you could go full time pirate as a means of farming gold. Also you could hijack fishing and navy boats if you have a crew.

[@philobot3264]

@@danfontaine8179 reminds me of archeage.

[@saltwaterx5100]

open world in theory is good for the immersion and logic of a fantasy world but in reality is one of the worst features of any mmo out there.

[@Sevier7777]

Their better be a pirate hat in the game. Arrrgggah

[@lockofmetal8894]

Sea of thieves?

[@normyocete7536]

“Social interaction”, that’s a very scary world for a lot of people.

[@MisterniKOK]

Me

[@alexp5569]

Hey, look on the bright side. You are on the internet. You don't need to reserve yourself or anything. You can truly be yourself with no consequence whatsoever. Within the boundaries of respect of course.

[@ConcordDown]

I survived, no I OWNED Lineage 2 so i'm ready to make everyone my #$%#^

[@zodsi]

cant handle social interraction irl, so i instead seek it from mmos

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

If the social interaction is with people like those in GTA Online (not an MMO but still), then I can understand why it can be scary for some.

[@Kaamos123]

100% going Dwarf miner into the mountains to have a legit dwarven fortress.

[@TheBasedBalkan]

You already know

[@abyss5469]

Yuhhh I wanna be a little dwarf with my giant axe

[@tarrydmunster1916]

Losing is Fun.

[@dustymayalith9207]

@Ender the Omega WE ARE DWARVES AND WE DIGGY DIGGY HOLE! ... please call it windrose fortress :P

[@koszyk2915]

and then some guild comes and destroys your city and you loose your items XD fun for sure

[@ArxDelvrion]

CONGRATULATION to over million watchers :) It proves how many people truly are looking for good mmorpg.

[@74R45]

some are just looking for the next game that's gonna revolutionize the market :) (not necessarily mmorpg)

[@andelskaar2656]

This one looks like mmorpg should be, but it is way too ambitious. Like Chronicles of Elyria it may break, or like Star Citizen never see light. If it releases, and everything described actually works, and hackers do not break it, THAN there is a chance for a new KING of Online Gaming.

[@grivza]

@@andelskaar2656 Could but I think subscription is too much to ask for nowadays.

[@ArxDelvrion]

@Chris Maybe, but if the game itself encourage good behavior, community can be better too. As have been seen with GW2 for example.

[@andelskaar2656]

@@grivza Final Fantasy and WoW glide with it. If the game is good, it matters not.

[@dumbodum]

The caravan system reminds me of Silkroad with the traders, hunters and thieves. Very cool

[@Firnaka]

Someone else who played Silkroad! Game got completely ruined by greedy p2w

[@Skoosh1967]

Silkroad jeez lol took me forever to get my glavie main too level 50 lol

[@cH4iN123]

@@Firnaka What ruined it, was the bots I would be lying if I'd say I wasnt but only because everyone did. Getting to max lvl was just to grindy. But if they would have taken care of bots more efficent I'd be still leveling my full str bow to this day. God I can still remember how I crafted my +6 lvl 16 bow to farm SP from 0-6 without any fails and lucky poweder. Also wish Peon would check the game out one day if he didnt yet but the problem is just that it takes literally months to show at least something decent, which is way to much work for a video about a game thats primetime already long gone.

[@BiHsinalco]

Yes exactly same, the best trading system ever made rly... was thinking the same

[@MiTheRage]

perfection

[@tyceusSaclain]

when i heard the very limited dragon eggs for a flying mount i both got very excited but also hit with existential dread .

[@WolffangPL]

i hope you'll be able to share a flying mount with your friends/guildies if you get one

[@jairusstrunk94]

@@WolffangPL Flying mounts can only be used by community leaders. The flying part of them anyway. So mayors and kings etc

[@WolffangPL]

@@jairusstrunk94 Yeah I heard about it and i wondered if said community leaders could share them with friends

[@WolffangPL]

As in let someone ride the mount for a while

[@jairusstrunk94]

@@WolffangPL Highly Doubtful

[@onionninja7580]

I really hope they can pull this off, this is literally everything I’ve wanted in an mmo, I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on this one

[@Inlinetom]

I see a lot of people saying this every time a new mmorpg like this comes around and its always a disappointment, lets hope this one isnt.

[@jarleskogly8388]

@@Inlinetom It's the first time I've said it.

[@crocodiledowny2191]

Problem is you need millions and millions to make the game they are saying they are making. I just don’t believe it

[@jarleskogly8388]

@@crocodiledowny2191 You need to do your research then. The guy behind it has put in 30 million of his own money. On Kickstarter they raised 3.2 million. The money is there. It's just a question of time.

[@Inlinetom]

@@jarleskogly8388 I really hope it does work cause I have been needing a new mmorpg to play

[@samblanton9010]

This is the kind of game that an anime protagonist would get trapped in

[@lenny5023]

Too 3d xD

[@ilhamzaneta928]

Dude its the wrong year to talk about it

[@zweihaunders5019]

Jokes on you, your gonna be the anime protagonist that gets trapped there.

[@Benzil_infinity]

Sword art online

[@cameronhoffman4669]

Sam Blanton HunterXHunter

[@salmanfllatah5535]

this seems too good to be true but i really hope i'm wrong

[@jairusstrunk94]

I mean. You can see the gameplay They have 2 hour long videos of the mmorpg gameplay.

[@salmanfllatah5535]

@@jairusstrunk94 gameplay doesn't show all the features he said and I did say I hope I'm wrong

[@troll5262]

Yeh, gives me the good ol' Star Citizen vibes. Remember Chronicles of Elyria? This feels a little like that, with the difference being that AoC have made more progress so far but I'm still highly sceptical. Jairus Strunk, you can, but frankly that gameplay looks horrible, and rightly so as it's so early in development. It does not really show how the game will be in the end at all. Kind of like watching the cover of a movie and judging it from that kind of deal.

[@worzoth4728]

@@jairusstrunk94 We should all remember Anthem and the gameplay they show us =P

[@roqsteady5290]

@@jairusstrunk94 videos of gameplay can be very misleading and at best only show a tiny fraction of a world with none of the issues that a large population will cause. A gameplay video might be relatively easy to make, but MMOs are vast with an even bigger infrastructure to support all the systems such as crafting, cosmetics, combat etc.

[@NhanTran-gy8xk]

I just realized i watch 26min of ad

[@thejakelcollective5886]

Do you regret it?

[@streuselu9474]

@@thejakelcollective5886 HELL NO

[@anttt_lol]

"29 minute in depth video" You can play dice inside the pub, I'm sold

[@ralphv130]

Our lives will be gone when this comes out

[@MurryFBM]

Tibia had this in 1997.

[@killler240]

I am likely going to start a casino, or a hosting facility charging a commission for trades.

[@gamerfan81]

26:12

[@kmdsubs3148]

More than anything I would like Intrepid to start releasing lore content for Ashes of Creation ... I know for some people, they only care about game play and couldn't care less about characters or reading quest text ... But for others, it's what pulls us into the game. It's what makes us actually care about the world we're in.

[@ZeroZiltch]

Most likely won't. Steven (CEO) has said he want to keep the lore close to heart until the game releases.

[@gemr8439]

True, but they still release bits of lore on their social media.

[@michaelsp7814]

They also released lore each months with cosmetics items and also with quests in AoC Apocalypse which are all available on the wiki

[@GrimReaper-bq8cm]

This! I love game lore, but I hate it when NPC's just throw a generic wall of text at you explaining the world and stuff in detail. I love it when a game tells a story through its world and through short lines from NPC's like they expect you to know the lore for the world since you're in it.

[@Babywizard69]

haven't read the lore whatsover yet thats offered but seems like the basic setting is "This planet that we're on had many civilizations, something happened, then ashes of creation apocalypse happens? where everyone is at war, then in the end something wiped out the population. So now we've travelled back to this planet(steven mentioned something like that, so idk where we were besides on this planet) and we're rebuilding and our goal is to find out what caused the destruction in the past.

[@h.bleakley1008]

When he mentioned the wiki I was like "Time to read the whole site and its source code"

[@ChiefKene]

Lol 😂

[@gremmklaw]

The node system is genuinely one of the coolest features I've ever seen in a game. The ability to grow and shape a settlement by doing normal adventuring activities seems really fun and offers a lot of possibilities. I hope it takes off and becomes something other games imitate. I'm imagining other games that work well in, such as a post apocalyptic setting like Grim Dawn, seeing settlements grow and shrink as you contribute or ignore them would add a lot of personality to different playthroughs, even in a single player game.

[@Reaperx81]

That age old saying: "if it seems too good to be true, it usually is". Will be checking it out IF it ever releases with all these promises.

[@jarleskogly8388]

Key word is usually. Roll the dice often enough and its bound to hit that 6. How many times have we rolled the dice on a new mmo now? With such a passionate guy behind this, if the game fails, then I don't think any new MMO will make it.

[@KaztenStudios]

ArcheAge flashbacks. Promised the moon, gave us Kraft singles

[@luckyjohny181]

@@jarleskogly8388 Well in recent days, obviously theres bound to be amazing games with new technology eventually.

[@skipper4126]

Chronicles of Elyria ftw.

[@matthewdeclerck7872]

And whether or not it even runs.

[@andelskaar2656]

Lazy Peon: "Why i quit Ashes of Creation - 2040"

[@coolzoky]

It's not going to be release until 2039, so makes sense.

[@clear5136]

It will release before the elder scrolls 6

[@nerdstrength21]

*Again

[@lilith8024]

No doubt

[@akhsdenlew1861]

no i think it will release before WoW's 20th expansion.

[@AdamIsUrqed]

Devs: What systems do you want? Sharif: Everything from Star Wars Galaxies, Everquest II, Lineage, ArcheAge, Guild Wars II, World of Warcraft, Black Desert Online, and some random stuff from The Old Republic. If you can get something from Asheron's Call, City of Heroes/Villains, and EvE, that would be grand. Devs: So superheroes and spaceships? Sharif: Don't be daft. Maybe.

[@Gobig4l1f3]

Most of that list is exactly what I thought to myself.

[@debangan]

At this point in time, this looks too good to be true.

[@debangan]

It just need more investment and a caring dev team.

[@__9910]

They are being more transparent than any other mmo team before them though.

[@speedyboi384]

@@debangan they have over 30mil and a caring dev team

[@godzxphobosx3307]

@@debangan what are you talking about? Have you even seen the monthly developments they're doing? Its looking amazing and there's still like 2 years of development left

[@godzxphobosx3307]

@@debangan plus they have a shit ton of investment

[@TheFlamespriest]

No class locked gear. Sounds like that's a hunter weapon.

[@rakkin5467]

Huntard weapons lol

[@omgdisfunny4852]

I need it

[@MugenChamploo1738]

You never know what you might need

[@WilliamHaist]

OMG? This is the MOST I've ever been told about this game in any video ever. I honestly think this is much better than the first impression I had of this game a few months ago... Ok I'm officially hyped.

[@jimmyn7t]

you shouldnt. just yet.

[@SevereArtisan]

I'm cautiously optimistic at best. Ambition and promises are nothing without proper execution and development.

[@HotsDru]

@@jimmyn7t dude you are weird af under every comment talking negative about the game. You are obsessed

[@jimmyn7t]

@@HotsDru i replied to 2 comments wdym? lmao and i m not saying anything wrong or false and in that comment i didnt even say anything negative either. step out from your fan boy shoes will ya?

[@WilliamHaist]

@@jimmyn7t i understand your caution considering all the failed mmorpgs that came out in the past few years. . I'm not hyped because I somehow have unrealistic expectations because of this video so don't get me wrong. I'm hyped because it's a potentially different direction for the mmorpg genre. . Simply doing endless amounts of filler side quests used to lengthen the games lifespan has taken a huge toll on my mind over the years. I feel like the mmorpg genre as a whole needs to be shifted in another direction, one without time-gating or filled with impact-less features that don't really matter. . Im simply hyped for this game because as of watching this video I can tell this is going to be something different than every other mmorpg. Originally when I first heard about this game I thought it was going to be like 3 nodes all in constant pvp with each other like factions from wow or eso or something. I honestly thought it could be a 3d version of that full loot steam pvp game albion online... I didn't really have a good impression of the game overall and let the game fade out of my memory. . This game will probably be a nice breath of fresh air at the very least. I don't think we're going to get the most amazing experience or one even remotely close to what was shown in this video because not everyone has a nasa super computer, but simply by them changing the mmorpg formula it will be very refreshing and enough for me to at the very least look into trying. . Not everything is a positive though. I don't like the fact that the player base will be split over multiple servers. I think this will negatively impact the game and I personally dislike this kind of game mechanic.If the world is big enough to host 10k players, instead of having multiple servers, why not just have multiple channels instead? That way you can group with your friends and not have to worry about their server filling up and you getting stuck in a queue or being unable to ever join their server. It's just an inconvenience. . Overall i'm simply hyped for the games unique take on the mmorpg formula, and for the doors this game COULD open for the mmorpg genre as a whole. I do have my expectations for the game in check though. Lag / latency, optimization and graphic appearance on low end pcs, lots of factors will contribute to whether this game is an amazing experience. Still hyped though.

[@kingkai18]

I’d like to create a band of mercenaries that hunt bounties, protect caravans, aid with other guild’s activities under paid contracts, etc. 🤙🏾

[@stephanlemmon3594]

I too was thinking about this haha. Wonder how wealthy you could get by being good at zerging caravans lol.

[@jarredstewart9890]

@@stephanlemmon3594 Zerging? a fellow Starcraft fan?

[@Krigohan]

Makes me ask that maybe there will be a point when it'll be possible to make a criminal town with a corrupted mayor where there would be no real guard npc

[@Brainth_1780]

@@jarredstewart9890 At this point it's become a standard MMO term for big groups of people mindlessly swarming an enemy

[@jn8604]

@@Krigohan like a military node run by a badazz PvP guild dictator, I'd imagine this type of node might be the more difficult nut to crack...assuming it's giving boosts to combat related things

[@retchie7355]

Peon! This was perfectly presented, cut, and edited. The level of clear information were a complete bliss to watch through and listen to. Your work is very very appreciated my friend!

[@Qwertzalcoatl]

True. The "Lazy" in his psedonym is a total misnomer at this point. Makes me feel ashamed of what I've attained/fail to achieve thus far in my own life.

[@robm1639]

The trademarked Peon MMO Formula: 1. Notice it First 2. Hype 3. MORE HYPE!! 4. Review 5. Disappointment 6. Repeat step 1.

[@Cry2Deep]

Pretty sad but accurate. Ofc you want an unbelievably good mmorpg, but peon shouldn't be hyped up by developer's information.

[@DGneoseeker1]

Peon: "EXCITING MMO!" Me: "Yes this appears to be a generic MMO..."

[@Nikimoney86]

There's nothing wrong with that, until you get tired of it (and at that point you have another problem). Either way, letting yourself get hyped and support possibilities helps the actual thing to become reality. In his case, by supporting the game, the devs, letting others feel okay supporting them too and all that. And while that sucks in retrospect, when it fails and we get disappointed, we shouldn't let that stop us from supporting, because otherwise you deny supporting and hinder the upcoming of good projects.

[@klovasoszenovka]

this isn't a peon exclusive thing. This is literally all of us that are trying to find a good mmo these days. Unless you by some miracle stuck with FFXIV or ESO or something, that really hasn't been anything released recently that has kept any of us and we went through this exact formula, and we will continue to go through this exact formula until something good does come out.

[@GamingDualities]

youtubers mostly only show the good/light side to things

[@wexmell]

this sounds like the mmo I wish we had, when reading novels about video games and them being fully immersed in the greatest game ever.

[@sora5982]

infinite dendogram vibes

[@alexanderqueen439]

I'm really hopeful but skeptical. As a veteran mmo player, I'm particularly worried about the idea of trade hubs and stock exchanges being destructible. One city's destruction over the weekend by a troll army could have huge effects on economy of the game. To give an example of how bad this could get, imagine spending 200+ hours of griending just to get a particular rare drop, putting it on the market to sell over the weekend, coming back on Monday to find the towns been completely nuked and all your hard work is now gone. And also if you're a filthy capitalist dog like I am having my millions of gold flipping trades suddenly disappear would be devastating. Also it's unclear if banks can be destroyed too, so you could potentially lose everything in one day Even if you're logged off. Also I feel it's worth mentioning that nodes being reset creates its own issues and it's highly unlikely that many nodes will ever become a metropolis. as there will be constant wars resetting everything back to zero. Another thing that bothers me is the player killing system in regards to becoming corrupted. Sure you can become a criminal, but what's the incentive to pk other players if you're penalized for it? Now I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any penalties for murder in game, however nerfing offender's damage and allowing him/her to lose their items removes any reason why anyone would ever wanna do it, outside of trolling purposes, which is exactly the kind of thing you don't want your pvp community to be consisted of. It's also unclear if you get to loot other players on death, which if you can't, would mean PKing would be absolutely pointless. All and all, there's ton of potential here, but also alot that could be executed poorly, or even exploitable under the right conditions. Will I still sink hundreds of hours into it? Definitely, but for the issues mentioned above I'm still very skeptical. We shall see

[@accelerator7952]

Like winter moon's rpg mechanics bro

[@informationyes]

Love the idea of a server where people have focused everything in to one node where they have built a 40k hive city that's turned the rest of the game world into an uninhabitable waist land

[@AceTycho]

Ha yeah!

[@spunkflunk]

I didn't think new mmorpgs were still a thing

[@derikfry7987]

world of warcraft

[@eliteexpression]

@@derikfry7987 "new"

[@derikfry7987]

@@eliteexpression oops i forgot to read hehe

[@derikfry7987]

@Daniel M i know but hes talking like brand new mmorpg games coming out not current ones still going

[@Rycefun]

This game will definitely be a revolution with the node system.

[@AgiDaKinG]

WAIT HOLY SHIT, I know Sharif... he was my guild leader in Lineage 2 and Archeage lol. When I saw the name Sharif and that he had fully funded the game I was like wait, I think I know this guy lol. He tried to buy a housing plot in Archeage for $10,000 because it was on the trade box turn-in island lmao. He's a hardcore MMO guy because he would always complain about how bad the current state of MMOs were so he decided to make his own.

[@PotKun]

So basically..... he is totally cool with P2W. Awesome.

[@tvrdy3]

@@PotKun lol

[@ProjectSheeno]

@@PotKun if pay to win is offering another player $10k cause his house was strategically located...then sure, Every game is pay 2 win then. Pay another player for their stuff.

[@eeropyorre9552]

@@ProjectSheeno that is p2w...

[@L0rd0fTh3N3rdz]

@@eeropyorre9552 no, it's called an mmo. The players have a choice not to sell.

[@tigereyes0209]

I just can't do another mmo, I don't have any more time to give- *Sees otter mount* Where do I sign up

[@tigereyes0209]

@Swadian Knight God forbid people like... things?

[@tigereyes0209]

@Swadian Knight That remains to be seen, but throwing in a cute mount is standard advertising for an mmorpg, and considering it got all of like 8 seconds in this trailer, isn't really much of an indicator of its potential

[@WolfeByteLabs]

@Swadian Knight you really think a game with a 30 million dollar investment is going to rely on subscriptions to offset its cost? What world do you live in? Cosmetics are a necessity.

[@Equalenemy]

@Swadian Knight eso aint dead

[@joshuavickers9820]

pretty much me in a nutshell.

[@riokollivier]

This game has giant rideable otters. That’s it, I’m sold.

[@sudeku7199]

This feeling... This game is one of the best games I think ive ever seen

[@cptcap7531]

Scared to really get any hopes up or invest into it after what happened with Chronicles of Elyria. 7,9 million donated all gone to waste.

[@judemartin6329]

@@cptcap7531 if you never try, you’ll never succeed.

[@umaiofficialml6836]

dude the feeling is hitting so hard

[@maisno9950]

@@cptcap7531 thing is this game was fully backed by 1 man with a vision. Its usually these type of people with dreams that get the job done right

[@VanValdenburg]

NewWorld: We postpone the game for one year Everyone: NW postponed for a year - we mad! TheLazyPeon: Here a game that possibly will come out in the next 5 years.

[@heartofjustice6041]

sounds unrealistic but then again jeff bezos can actually pull it off tbh

[@artemisftwable]

@@heartofjustice6041 i doubt jeff bozos would even know about "new world".

[@edumazieri]

@@artemisftwable Heh people seem to have a really weird idea that amazon game studios is the same thing as amazon....

[@adriansteel4842]

@@edumazieri pretty much yes it is

[@ainzooalgown9952]

it got delayed because it didn't have enough endgame content to warrant a high playerbase what, you'd rather release it and watch people make videos like "New World didn't die, it got murdered"?

[@jonrainbow123]

Getting a strong "too good to be true" vibe. There's just too many systems, too many variables, too much balancing, and too much of everything. How can we realistically expect all of this to come out in a functional state, much less a fun and balanced state?

[@dall1786]

It is possible just very difficult to do. Blizzard did it once but nobody has been able to do it since then. Eventually though someone will do it. the real question is if this the game that will do it?

[@ghostghostgaming5637]

highly doubt it will good. And it's not even the games fault. A lot of the core philosophy of MMO's, just don't really hit the current needs for people. i.e. older players like MMO's, and yet older people have less time and dedication naturally. And that is what exactly a MMO needs, and if a MMO has no endgame, or time sink, then is it really a MMO? Why not just play something else?...

[@dall1786]

@@ghostghostgaming5637 True. I myself will be watching the games development though to see how it turns out. there's always that chance.

[@jonrainbow123]

@@ghostghostgaming5637 great insight. I agree. I want to no life a game, but can't afford to with a job and family these days. So it's almost impossible to appease our crowd. When he said the time it would take to hit max level, I laughed. That's never going to be a game I play for more than just a casual glance. Oh well though.

[@zylle1993]

Steves team has grown HUGE over the years, it has a massive backing from kickstarter and the fact that Steve is a billionair and funds it with hes own cash. He NEEDS this game to succes. I have a very high confident in him and hes team

[@TechSource]

Looking forward to the release of this game!

[@Gabriel-sd5cr]

Time to hunt Ed down to PvP him 😤😤😤

[@Sedulous32072]

Woah, this comment needs more likes, he has over 2 million subs

[@labell2987]

See you in game!

[@JohnTrompete]

i dont want to watch 30 minutes, i just want to know when will alpha/beta/full game be released ? does anyone has info for me

[@bobbyjonesh5221]

@@JohnTrompete Alpha 1 is supposed to come out end of 2020 or so i think.

[@themagicman6078]

Boy did yall read those unique classes? God damn every class you could ever hope for. Choosing Cleric and Fighter will either create a Paladin or Templar depending on the order. Mage and bard results in either Magician or Sorcerer. Even choosing two of the same is its own class unto itself, Mage and Mage is Archwizard. Rogue+Bard= Charlatan or Rogue+Rogue=Assassin and there's even a gawd damn Shadow Lord?? I'm in. 100% in.

[@alexanderqueen439]

I'm definitely going to be an arch wizard. Sounds badass

[@emperorpalpatine5559]

Damn really? In games I’m mostly interested in sword and sheild, or magic, so I’ll probably go fighter + mage Maybe magic archer? Idk but I’m excited

[@AIIXIII0]

Those classes is fun thoughhh. I do wish we can change primary class. One player can try all classes combinations xD Why is only FFXIV have this kind of features... (The only one I know of, do tell me if there's another game with no class lock.)

[@jairusstrunk94]

@@AIIXIII0 Archage. You're final build is decided on what 3 classes you pick and you can redo them at anytime.

[@Mikey20555]

For me I tried many different MMOs Ultima Online, Ragnarok Online, Legend of Mir, Eve Online and Everquest. None of them really stuck until World of Warcraft. I still have flashbacks to the starting area in Elwynn Forest or the first time on a Gryphon flying between Stormwind and Ironforge etc... This looks fun, but I worry about it overreaching like so many others of these sandbox MMOs and I get worried about things like PvE content being locked behind systems that are griefable. Still I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

[@lluis9650]

Sounds too good to be true, every MMO is amazin when it's in development.

[@raret4]

right? just look at Chronicles of Elyria...

[@zacharywood5090]

This sounds like a game RYPE for exploitation.....that many classes pfft bet only 5 or 6 will actually be useful and required in alpha guilds to use. Taking those cities will be IMPOSSIBLE if the dominant guild on the server takes them and holds them. I can imagine a professional guild from another mmo thats been playing together for a decade to come to this game and just completely take everything....the flying mounts the best city spawns ect.....I'm not seeing how this will be fair to an "average" gamer in any way. Even with the grief system people will have alts eventually and they can just switch characters and continue griefing because why not? I see a life sinking abyss here for trolls and scummy players to really sink there teeth into.

[@lavablader6949]

@@zacharywood5090 I think that would make it a little more fun imo

[@Nidhogg151]

@@zacharywood5090 I think that's what will prevent this game from being the "next biggest mmo". It'll be great for the "1%" players, but for everyone else it doesn't seem that rewarding. In addition to the fact they also have a lot of old school game mechanics that most people don't enjoy. It'll fill a niche for old school mmo players but that's it imo.

[@CarpeVeracity]

True. Tabula Rasa sounded amazing, wasn't.

[@afilina]

If this game delivers on its promises, I'll have no more social life.

[@sno_au]

Our social lives will improve!! Only 1 mastery each, I will be everybodys friend to get the best gear :D yay

[@Non-disjunction]

That's sad. A digital social life is the cause to a hermit lifestyle.

[@sno_au]

@End-Gamer what is life

[@PflanzenChirurg]

they never do

[@Antiauthoritarianmindset]

lol what social life xD i chill infront of the pc all the time cuz my city is boring af and i cant do anything interesting here lol so imma keep playin games xDDDDD

[@samiplyz2212]

This game sounds like everything id ever want in a mmorpg and even more! If this game holds true and fulfills all of its potential, it may start a new era to mmorpgs in general

[@RedRiotRoss]

i was one of the first 5000 backers on kickstarter and only after watching this am i hype to play thANK yOU

[@Ahhhahhaha]

Well, I will definitly watch your videos on this game.

[@adamkantar2493]

The idea and everything are so good, but let's adress the elephant in the room...it's ugly, FFXIV which launched at 2014 is way more beautiful. Textures are ugly characters are stiff... sad

[@Blinkz_Oni]

@@adamkantar2493 not for real xD ffxiv isnt more beautiful. i play it mainly and the hairstyle glitches in the outfits as fk

[@choosetherightify]

Same and ditto. I backed at the permanent license level. I'm still hopeful.

[@akachiteam6996]

@@adamkantar2493 Don't worry, they will have multiple passes for the animations and textures. There's a reason this is pre-alpha. Expect to see much better visuals at the betas

[@TheEDFLegacy]

This game: MediEVEal Online. . A lot of these features are ones that are in Eve Online; . - Nodes and their combat system is a lot like their Citadel system, right down to using timers to determine when you can attack; only difference is that it's just one structure, instead of a detailed city. . - Alliances and Corporations; because they can grow bigger than 10,000 members, you could easily equate them to communities in their own right. . - Substantial penalties for griefing in PVE areas (in Eve, you lose your ship from CONCORD, and you suffer a security status penalty that can make things much more difficult for you in PVE space); loss of XP and gear from death (XP loss was a possibility up to only a few years ago). . - Predominantly player driven world and economy. . Is this a complaint? Hell no! SIGN ME UP! :D

[@EldeNice]

Servers in Ashes of Creation are announced to cap at 10k concurrent players. So no 10k alliances

[@xdenisx411]

AoC has everything best from mmorpgs, I cannot wait for the game, LazyPeon should have waited a bit with this video... I''m too hyped up for it

[@marclytle644]

Leary of the pvp part. I can't stand pvp, I don't want other players to even attack me. Unless I choose to flag for pvp. I am just there to enjoy the game, and see the world. I will keep an eye on this game. Looks interesting, but I just want to be left alone.

[@xdenisx411]

@@marclytle644 then play skyrim, not mmorpg, mmorpg means massively multiplayer online rp game...

[@marclytle644]

@@xdenisx411 Why is it that is everyones go to... go play single player? Maybe I want to play in the MMO, and NOT be harrassed by someone just wanting to get their pvp jollies? I understand what a fucking MMORPG is. I just hate pvp when it is FORCED on me. And no, I did not consent to it by logging in. Do you consent to getting mugged when you leave your house?

[@Vellikos]

"the thing that I'm most excited for is the sheer scope of the project" >Side-eyes Star Citizen >Looks at Elite:Dangerous You win some you lose some with that I guess. As long as we don't run into Star Citizen levels of F E A T U R E C R E E P

[@timy4322]

The lead designers of the game straight up said there has been and will be no feature creep in the development of them game. It has a set path for development and it will stick to that path until release.

[@QlimaXtheSecound]

yeah just watch the interview with asmongold they speak exactly about this

[@BeanGP]

The game feels like it’ll be the next no man’s sky. “A game that builds itself over time and will never be the same thing twice.” Mixed with the sheer ambitions and planned release date

[@QlimaXtheSecound]

@@BeanGP again (: the developers where pressured into releasing it too soon (SONY) just to hype the ps4 launch back than you cant compare it because AoC is self funded

[@dimedplay]

Imagine plugging the cable behind your head and living in this matrix! Wow!

[@L0reweaver]

dude I hope they REALLY take their time with this and polish the SHIT out of it, can't stand games being released half finished. awesome video too dude

[@hate8471]

It's already been in development for 3 years bud trust me it will be polished

[@Rycefun]

I wouldn't mind the game being half finished as long as they keep updating it and so forth.

[@Rycefun]

@@hate8471 I'm guessing you also donated at the kick start as well?

[@johnnymcfettsack3552]

@@Rycefun usually a developer's commitment to updating a game depends on its initial success. If it does not have a big enough player base, their investors might not deem it worthy to keep updating the game. Exceptions are rich companies like square enix (ffxiv) and zenimax (eso) who can afford to pump money into basically relaunching games. Making a good first impression is vital to a game's long term success.

[@Rycefun]

@@johnnymcfettsack3552 that makes sense.

[@pannopanno5260]

It looks neat, but this seems like a laundry list of features that will never fully get fleshed out, I'll believe anything I see from game devs POST launch.

[@rEd1337]

16:06 DID I JUST SEE A GIANT OTTER MOUNT?!?! Count me in.

[@garysimmons3166]

Exactly. Otters are like the colour yellow this summer. Totally in!

[@jeffrobison6729]

I stumbled on this video two weeks ago. Since then, I’ve watched half of the AoC dev updates, I’ve shared this video a dozen times, and I’m injecting hopium straight into my veins.

[@Racika_]

"Ye a ton of promises have seen it before I dont care" 16:05 *Ight those are otter mounts Im in*

[@scottstewart1150]

This was me.

[@hjorhrafn]

Same

[@eyepain5829]

Same

[@hermon1985]

Lmao

[@mellaroulakeman9798]

This could be a dream of a Roleplaygame!

[@AzureIV]

1:25 Hears: "The sheer scope of the game." What experience has taught me: Most likely it will fail at delivering half what it sets out to do.

[@XxAl3X3IxX]

Either will be underwhelming or will take like 6 more years of development

[@bestieswithtesties]

Yeah the more and more this video dragged on about the just endless amount of things planned for the game the more and more my excitement dropped. Definitely seems like they're trying to do waaaaay too much straight out of the gate and I bet on release most of it will be half complete or non existent because even though they spent a shit ton of time programming it they couldn't get a working version done fast enough. It's such a stupid mistake that so many developers make. They should just create a super solid super enjoyable base game, release it, and then work on constant updates adding things. Instead it seems like they're trying to tackle waaay too many massive things all at once and they're eventually just going to run out of funding and be forced to release a half complete mess in a desperate attempt to keep funding it's development.

[@AzureIV]

@@bestieswithtesties Preach.

[@djgolden5903]

@@bestieswithtestiesI dont want to constantly wait every month for small updates that just give small content. I would rather wait for the full thing so I can enjoy it

[@bestieswithtesties]

@@djgolden5903 In a perfect world that is what we would get. But the problem with games like this is that they set their goals and ambitions so high without having a logical road plan in place that they almost always fail to deliver. They spend years and years making their game but eventually the money well runs dry and they end up screwed. They end up having to release some 1/4th complete disappointing mess as a last ditch effort to bring in more money to keep their funding alive. And it's a failure for everyone involved, developers and players alike. When it comes to a game like this they need a much more structured and logical road plan that involves releasing a solid and polished game asap and then fleshing it out to the extremes over time. Not trying to go to the extremes right out the gate. I hope they can accomplish what they want, but I am not optimistic.

[@musacetinkaya9008]

that system where the aesthetic of a city is based on the faction that has contributed to the node the most might be one of the greatest aspects off the game for me!.. wow!

[@thatoneguyinthemiddle1910]

The first thing got into my mind, "no p2w, so there's no guild like ainz ooal gown"

[@Atomic-Blast-]

I am searching for an MMORPG depicting Overlord, and this game sounds like the closest one i have seen or heard of so far... I cannot seem to find any game similar to Overlord, would you mind, kind sir, if possible, to give me suggestions !!!

[@bad4746]

@@Atomic-Blast- this game is possibly the closest thing to Yggdrasil that we are going to get considering Overlord takes place 100 years from now

[@TorManiak]

@@Atomic-Blast- No real MMORPG will ever be close to Yggdrasil in this day and age. Not only because realistically, making a skill tree as extensive as DnD classes is so freaking hard to handle(in a conceptual and a balancing way) for any company that also focuses on other games/domains of work, but also because it will take so much time to develop, at least triple as much as a normal good game of the past years (In all types, not only RPGs), which would mean basically 8 years of development minimum to make a game with as much content as Yggdrasil, and 3 years worth of extensions if the devs try to add completely new content. Not even mentioning the tech that would develop faster than the game and the fact that YGGDRASIL IS A FULL DIVE VRMMORPG GAME. (and keep in mind we're almost to the time the SAO incident happened, and we still haven't invented full dive technology). ... That's a good thing Yggdrasil exists a century after our own. Gives plenty of time to see what's good or not to make an MMORPG as good as it is. Though I would hate it having a P2W cash shop and the differences in races killing in PVP(it's said you get more rewards for killing players of the Monster races iirc), even if that's how Ainz Ooal Gown started out. -I would also like a way to convert in game money to IRL money so people can quit their jobs and sink the economy forever lmao-

[@JMSginoclave]

@@TorManiak Also to note that D&D classes themselves are not balanced.

[@stevzor]

I'm loving the whole pvp aspect you're describing, it sounds like it really does appeal to everyone with open world, bounty system, penalties for pvp on the lower lvls but still gives the option and the whole risk vs reward sounds great, something most MMO's have long forgotten in this day and age. Looking forward to it.

[@FNLNFNLN]

"Risk vs reward sounds great" There's a reason games don't do that anymore. Most players just optimize the risk vs reward down to a few safe options, and you've just wasted a ton of development time on content that barely ever gets used.

[@lafleurstudios]

@@FNLNFNLN Ive always said better to ahve it and not need it.. then need it and not have it.. Thats why albion is suffering so hard.

[@Mamsaturatdevoi]

@@FNLNFNLN The reason why games don't do it anymore is because they just don't want to bother with it anymore. Having the risk too high will make PvP players not do that content, as it's not worth it and most importantly not fun (which as you said, means a lot of wasted development time and money). Having the risk be too low (which a lot of open world MMOs have done, and this is the primary reason why PvE players have PTSD every time they hear "Open World PvP MMO") will make the gameplay experience miserable for PvE players. So rather than carefully balancing the thin line between risk and reward, developers just said "Screw it" and gave up on trying to implement this and ultimately, it meant they gave up on making MMOs that are truly designed for both PvP and PvE players (without one group having to suffer). Just because it's difficult to implement correctly, doesn't mean that there's an issue with a feature/system. We just need more competent and passionate developers; hopefully, we have that with AoC.

[@CyRxJustin]

I'm worried that this will be a problem with streamers having the ability to just own the server. Like they'll decide to power level a node and their viewers will help. Then when it's time for a different node, suddenly a good portion of the server is sieging the metropolis. I like the idea of some people or guilds being extremely influential on the server but it would be much cooler if it was organic instead of based on real-world following. Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible in the age of Twitch.

[@Frosty_Tips_]

At least the destruction of that Metropolis will be watched by hundreds of thousands of viewers, perhaps even 1M on that streamer's twitch and youtube "highlight" reel and not just another unknown battle on just another unknown server between two kings no one heard of. Imagine it... as the godless streamer lands his ancient fire breathing dragon next to the beaten Monarch/High Priest of this once great Divine node he'll look the streamer king in his eyes and then at the twitch camera and shout for all the spergs to hear, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!" and with that the dragon mount bits his head off and his royal robes fall to the dirt. But what then happens to a godless streamer who destroys the only Divine metropolis on the server? An entire city devoted to the Gods. Do you think the Gods will not seek revenge? That streamer will want to get his generals back to his castle and his royal crafters upgrading their walls further because that next night if he has any brains he'll know a horde of monsters are coming for him, with champions of the Gods as their generals. The sound of thunder is a cloudless sky upon the death of the divine king should be his warning.

[@Holistic242]

@@Frosty_Tips_ Bruh. Streams on twitch are not as epic and RPy as you make it out to be

[@itsdakine218]

@@Holistic242 give the man credit for going there lol

[@Holistic242]

@@itsdakine218 haha for sure. But it aint how it really is.

[@jihadityrone2197]

Keizan Lol it’s just a dirty bastard like Asmon begging his viewers to help him

[@pappasmokes1539]

Thankyou for taking the time to make this video. This looks unreal. The veteran warcraft community is screaming for something like this since the values and morals of the old blizzard team have been derailed by the greed of the activision takeover. It would be awesome if devs could get in touch with former blizzard guys like metzen and morhaime. Their passion and talent is reflected in the glorious work that used to be world of warcraft and these guys were the foundations of the success and cult following of warcraft. Thanks again mate will keep a keen and patient eye out for updates on this. Cheers!

[@GentleCrank]

The fact that the developers are gamers themselves and have played old and new MMO’s, I have a lot of hope for this game

[@BAJLACRO]

when it will be released

[@GentleCrank]

BAJLA there’s no release date yet, but given their progress it could be around 2-3 years. Remember that games usually take around 5-6 years to develop and release. AoC started at the 27th of August 2018. I’d look forward for this date if I were you. If it’s sooner, it’s good. If it takes longer to perfect the game, it’s also good.

[@GentleCrank]

And like I’ve said, they’ve played MMO’s just like us, so they have an idea on what mechanics gamers like and don’t like. They’ve mentioned multiple times in their live-streams what mechanics they don’t like and won’t add to the game including their reasons. If you have spare time and are interested in the game, I suggest watching some videos on their channel to give you an idea on their progress.

[@claire6650]

YEah there is also the fact the studio director is well known to be a scammer who made his fortune on a scam Lets not forget this and how greedy the studio is, with how everything is going rn, i wouldnt be surprised if they make node locked behind paywall; like dollar spent instead of xp

[@9axel5]

@@claire6650 lmao. Sounds like he made his fortune scamming all your money. Glad they are going for mmorpg

[@lerigan38]

"This looks nice, I will give it a try." *Peon mentions monthly fee.* "Huh, I guess I won't play this afterall ... but I will still watch the video." *Finishes the video.* "Well ... " *Checks the financial status.*

[@jockek46]

monthly fee will allways be the best for getting new content

[@yunahito9890]

monthly fee is how you know the game will get better with time and will be fair

[@stratomiesniinsaatanasti5250]

There is no good free mmos

[@Randeth]

I'm only interested in subscription MMOs now. So excited about ashes. 😊

[@lerigan38]

Ye, but also understand the position of poor student.

[@Geraduss]

This is what Everquest next could have been, if not for the timid shortminded investors who looked at the popular trends and said they didn't want to inovate and canceled the whole thing.

[@eustace2c2]

Watching the sales pitch for Everquest next it seemed it would be so much more. Even the failed pre game Landmark was amazing it it's own way. A real world builder that showed off a lot of what the final game could be. Then greed and ignorance wiped out the whole thing. Even all the work that had been done seems to have just vanished.

[@Geraduss]

@@eustace2c2 It could have been so amazing, sigh. And so much of what Ashes is offering seems to have had its origins in EQ:Next, from nodes to guild warfare to radiant quests and complex AI for mobs, to cross class combinations etc.

[@robertp457]

Innovation isn't easy and it take a special person to create something new and enjoyable. Just because something is innovative for one person doesn't mean everyone else will agree and even if it is genuinely new and interesting guarantee it will be fun.

[@giorgiorosi7550]

Funny you mentioned that, the lead environmental artist for Ashes of creation (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bacon_(artist)) was one of the lead designers working in EQ and EQ Next. These guys been getting really good talent from all over, folks that want to build a great game wanting to join this project because they believe in it. I am very excited for this game.

[@koloblican11763]

I feel this very deeply

[@-xphobia]

Holy shit I feel like a kid. Thank you for showing us this game.

[@Kuba-qe9rd]

This game sounds like a mix of everything good from other MMOs, I'm hyped.

[@Tazytots]

Which is exactly why it has a significantly higher chance of failure, just like every other "we took a little bit of everything" mmo that has come out. People like what they like. They aren't looking for a mixed bag.

[@Jorendo]

@@Tazytots Everytime i hear people say "This sounds like everything i ever wanted from a MMORPG" i just know it's gonna fail within the first 3 months of the release. It always does. People think they want something, but then get bored or it's just not worked out that well after all. Everyone was hyped for Conan, Everyone was hyped for Warhammer online, Everyone for Archage. People always get hyped, but most MMORPG's don't have a big player base for long and often become the near dead experiences. Don't get me wrong, i would love to see a new MMORPG succeed, but there are to many and some games have the established base that won't lose the numbers. New ones often have a good start, but then after a month, maybe two, the player base drops massively, causing servers to become ghost towns and communities not able to get build all that well. Offcourse the reaction here will be "you are way to negative, this is not gonna happen this time, this is the promised game we all been waiting for", yeah i heard that about GW2, i heard that about Archage especially, i heard that about so many MMORPG's, yet the most popular MMORPG is still World of Warcraft, with Final Fantasy Online being a good second, and they are buy to play with subs, so sure you will have some F2P MMORPG's having more numbers but thats due to the free aspect and those games don't really have a steady community either, they just have alot of people comming in to check it out.

[@AJR99]

Thank you for taking the time and effort to put this together! Probably the single most informative video I've seen about this game since development started. I can't imagine how much work you must have put into this, but I greatly appreciate it. Now when friends who haven't been following development ask me why I've supported this game since the original Kickstarter, I can just link them this video and go, "Here. This is why." Kudos!

[@Gyva02]

Cries at hearing "2 more years out" :(

[@BbXxQQ]

I'd say "2 or more..." :D

[@SoloK_1]

There is a very very good reason why all of the recent videos are pushing hard with the 'totally not a scam, we are pretty sure!' Game is a pipe dream. I hope it does well, but won't be out for years.

[@Ironfrenzy217]

Fine by me! More time to get through FF XIV.

[@Touchin-Grass]

" A solid 2 years before completion " . I can't believe it's been 4 years !!!

[@lord_depsi]

This looks great and would love to try it out when it comes out!

[@sephrinx4958]

If they can pull this off, this will be the most amazing game ever. Everything about this sounds fucking awesome in theory and on paper, if it is executed well and polished, and enjoyable to play then I think I found my new game. I am so hyped for this to come out. Here's to looking to 2030 when it actually launches. Hopefully they don't Star Citizen this. This is by far the most ambitious MMO I've ever seen.

[@KrakkenXXX]

They will never get close to pulling this off.

[@Sam-dd7jm]

@@KrakkenXXX see the world with some optimism lad

[@anteaterhi]

It’s looks like a great game with tons of potential, but I’m not to much of a fan of the subscription payment form rather than a one time payment. I understand that the developers could use it to add more updates to the game, but I’m not too much of a fan of subscriptions. Other than that, great potential, and I’m hoping it doesn’t turn out like No Man’s Sky when it first cake out

[@Shovelchicken]

Wow players: “32 specs is too many to properly balance!” Ashes of creation devs: “hold my 64 classes” I am excited for ashes, I think it’s going to be great, but I’m also expecting things to be not nearly as grand as everyone, including the devs themselves, are making it out to be.

[@TheRealDaniiBoy45]

Jonah Marx all I’m a little nervous abt is the combat n if it’s boring af for ranged classes

[@b-l1969]

And it will be a problem. You think Blizzard doesn't know what they are talking about?

[@JD-ey9gw]

Well to be fair the first class is supposed to define your core skills while the second sis supposed to augment those skills therefore the 64 classes wont be totally diferent

[@Sanquinity]

Thing is, blizz did manage very decent balance near the end of TBC. So it's not like it's impossible. And since then they've only simplified pretty much everything, so it should have become easier to balance.

[@arcamean785]

For me I'm curious about how unique each of those classes feel/play and how/if they are balanced because if blizzard can't balance the few classes it has after 15 years how the hell do you balance 64!? I want to know how things like stealth/invis work, whats the GCD system and more importantly when you die how does respawning work? I'm not much for PvP but if the game forces me into it I need to feel like I'm not completely gimped the moment I see X class or "Oh there's Y class, I need to avoid because he'll just nullify everything I do". Classes need to feed unique but also need to be reasonably identifiable without needing an army of addons, I'd say I'm in the cautious category.

[@AnymMusic]

Not gonna lie, the ambition of it sounds like Cyberpunk 2077 mmorpg edition waiting to happen. Hope he can prove us wrong tho

[@VoiceULove]

Probably the only MMO that stands a chance of being popular any time soon. Even New World doesn't compare and that's being developed by a company with literally billions of money at it's disposal. MMOs are an ambitious project and if you aren't passionate about gaming like the CEO of Intrepid is, it's almost guaranteed to fail. Too many game companies have completely lost their perspective about what makes games great. That is because the gaming industry has been taken over by bureaucratic suits who only focus on the most profitable outcome, not the actual enjoyment gamers desire.

[@kronkrian100]

This feels like "bite off more than it can chew" type of game.

[@_Tomon]

I think their solution after finding out it may be more that they can chew was to take few more bites of the same size :-D Still... IF they succeed, it would be the best.

[@sgshaday]

They're hiring. On their page. So... possibly they're working much on it.

[@akachiteam6996]

There's about 70 devs working on it and a lot of them have experience making huge games so i wouldn't be worried

[@georgeblair3894]

More advanced than Pantheon.

[@jmrwacko]

With 100 developers, maybe not.

[@twentyfifth2565]

This is a very interesting concept and very ambitious, really looking forward to it. But subscriptions are still rather vital to the game so that the devs don't die of hunger. And with a game like this I don't mind investing something like $20/month for content like this.

[@dazairampo8823]

well it’s 15$ a month and you can play it for free with the referral system

[@saadalkhatem3890]

Tbh tho this is the problem with majority of current mmorpgs and mobile games where the game is free and it's pay to win so for me I prefer to buy a game and enjoy non pay to win

[@abdalabi3617]

Or do it like bdo, buy to play with huge pay to win :):):):):)

[@Kittsuera]

@@saadalkhatem3890 it won't be pay to win. however, if your definition of pay to win is collecting cosmetics then it will be pay to win. the idea is to be profitable via cosmetic shop items.

[@a2jy2k]

Tbh if this game is as good as it is being made out to be, I have no problem buying a ton of cosmetics just to support the devs. The way I see it, I would easily pay 100 bucks for a game like this as well as a sub fee, so if I can spend that on cool cosmetics to support the game, then why not? Of course, it all depends on whether or not the game is as good as the hype.

[@SuperBongo123]

Where was this game when i was single and didnt have kids, mortgage and a full time job & life ffs, last time i had time to play an mmo properly was launch WoW ffs

[@citycat2729]

goldshire sure looks lame compared to this everchanging shit

[@Thalatash]

I feel your pain. I only watch people play video games now because I can't devote enough time to properly play any good games anymore.

[@kotzikuche7883]

Buy a house in the woods secretly where you can disappear once in a while

[@kipkipful]

Jigov yeah full time generic job is way better than an inmersive magical experience

[@KhaizenGaming]

Well you could.. you know, leave your partner and your kids 😂😂

[@vezal8214]

I really hope that they release this when they think its "finished" I dont want the devs to feel rushed by the people and have the release be horrible. This might be one of the greatest games of all time.

[@Hafthethird]

Can’t wait to play this in 5 years

[@shashwattripathi759]

I want this now

[@117rebel]

Don’t say that! Lol

[@lukex1337]

Yep. Ready to see the game become “delayed indefinitely”.

[@judemartin6329]

It’s going to be at the very least three years, I would consider joining the beta or alpha though

[@Irraptured]

Yep. Do what I do. Forget it exists. The moment you hear that it's actually going to be releasing soon, look into it a bit. Don't hype yourself, don't prepare to be amazed. Just try it, and see how it is. If it's great, THAT is when you let all the hype come out.

[@MrRapolas]

This is actually content. I am a BDO player for over 2 years. When You say that there is a season based quest events or towns can't be shifted by each server, dependant on player impact OR only one profession can be maxed so there is some sorta character building in YOUR choices! It amazing! In bdo new class is getting released and that is exiting new content. No new changes, improvements or innovations. Oh, new area is getting unlocked, but still on same system, changing wallpaper on the same crashing PC You been playing. Like changing damage numbers, adding same event with different missions - isn't new content, imo. I try to keep it always positive and look on how to have fun, but boy I am excited. btw if any future guild looking for a master fisherman.. That profession is getting maxed day one or two.

[@ccloudleaf]

The legedary fisher Rapolas will see no equal!!!!

[@MrAidaslit]

Played BDO because of the world and stopped after about 80 hours because it really feels like the game is PvP oriented, while im in for the PvE experience. AoC sounds almost too good to be true. But oh boy if it manages to launch properly, I will be dumping hours into it. I really like desert areas in games and while they are rare, both BDO and AoC have them, so im very excited to see how AoC looks like in that aspect of the world.

[@LadyHermes]

We've been here before so many times. The game looks amazing but a simple technical issue can ruin it after release. Bad netcode, flawed graphic engine or just bad choices in game design can kill any MMO. We gonna need to see how this all works a few weeks/months after release. The reactivity of devs team in the first days will be crucial for the future of this game.

[@michaelcoslett476]

The one thing that gives me strong hope is that the Creative Director personally funded this just about completely, before kickstarting funds. So, he's obviously very invested.

[@kristoff9135]

flawed graphic engine > they are using unreal, i guess it's obvious choice for this type of game, so i wouldn't worry about that

[@dacian2856]

my dad was one of the best WOW players, and he reccomended this to me. and I understand why now and i am so fucking excited

[@Disturbance42]

I highly doubt he was truly one of the best WoW players. If he was, he would be more cautious as to a game like this. It's not even near completion and could be completely run on hype just to be a scam or a shitty game. Patience is key and dampening expectations and hype.

[@dacian2856]

@@Disturbance42 I don't think he is a game critic 😂 he was just good at WoW

[@texasdandy9083]

How does a wow player have a child

[@dacian2856]

@@texasdandy9083 long story 😂

[@keillgray3176]

Man Love your passion and optimism - just hope it does not get crushed when this actually comes out, because as all mmo players know when a thing sounds too good to be true it often is.

[@Shiirow]

well thats not limited to just MMOs, thats gaming in general. devs hype their shit up to astronomical proportions then fail to deliver on even 10% of what was promised.

[@todarfclips]

The combat system worries me, but this looks like everything I've ever wanted in an mmo.

[@ohihassan693]

Oh god, please, we need something like this, it's beens so long. Please let this game be super good and make the people playing be serious and nice. After reading so many manga on vr games, I feel like this one might be the closest to be able to give me a real life experience of what I have been reading. I hope the devs stay true to their promise of it being a non p2win game and they be successful in what they are doing. Gg

[@Krieghandt]

GW2, FF2, and PoE have proven P2W is unnecessary. People love to buy useless glitter and hats for their viewing pleasure. Add in some Quality of Life items, and VIOLA! Money for the company, pay for the developers, and happy players. I think $12/month may be a bit high, but $5/month would be not far from F2P.

[@ohihassan693]

@@Krieghandt 12$/m is high for a player like me from India, I hope the adjust the prices according to country.

[@lawan_sardar]

@@ohihassan693 they've said that they are adjusting the prices according to the country and the server you play on. E.g. playing from india on asia servers will be cheaper than playing from the uk on europe servers

[@borankakanou9381]

I feel you, me and my brother we share the exact same opinion, when is a game like anime/manga gonna come out?

[@Krieghandt]

If you want a developed game with a great community(although smallish) Check out Peon's LOTRO video. I've played that game, and he only showed a piece of what's available.

[@narottamzakheim5051]

Theres some really amazing ideas here... and i love the scope of the concept.... but i think in practice... this could be quite a nightmare... im rooting for it tho... cant wait to hear some live feedback