The Volvo 850 Disaster - What happened to the 2.5 20v Wagon?

[@johnschiefelbein917]

Watched your 2nd video, enjoyed it. Retired American living in Phillipines, interested in old Volvos, may purchase one as my next car if I can find a decent one I can afford. So any Volvo clips you upload I will watch. John

[@andrewnevermind4902]

Honoured the warranty no questions. Geoff should get on trust pilot. What a service.

[@marksmith5156]

I drive a discovery 1 its on rust pilot

[@johndutton9739]

Fair play to you for driving him home

[@anthonyp6810]

I second that well done Geoff. Figures crossed it’s an easy fix, it’s a Volvo. How hard can it be to fix it

[@djtaylorutube]

The most common issue on the old 850s for no start is lack of fuel. There's the red relay under the fuses in the engine bay, that can go faulty. There's also the main fuel injector relay on top of the radiator fan shroud. With the ignition on, flick that relay to see if the contacts are sticking. If it is, there's an obvious inrush of fuel when it primes the fuel injector manifold. Easy test for fuel pressure is to remove the valve cap on the end of the fuel rail and press the valve. I've played this game with ours since 1998. I've never suffered from cam position sensor or crank position, nor temp sensor but those sudden no starts... my vote is one of the fuel relays (or fuel pump, i'm on my third).

[@18_rabbit]

what type climate do u live in? How has your highway fuel economy been, and town/city?

[@djtaylorutube]

@@18_rabbit Is that for me? I'm in the UK, get about 28 miles per Imperial gallon.

[@1873Winchester]

Heard some say the hydraulic lifters can get stuck when warm and when you go to restart the car there's no compression and it won't start. Got a service bulletin about it in VADIS about a redesigned lifter that drains the oil faster, started coming in 1997.

[@djtaylorutube]

@@1873Winchester Yes, I think that's the one that's also referred to as lawnmower syndrome, where the car is started and then turned off almost straight away. Then it behaves as if there's no compression and just turns over. Been there, done that too. 👍

[@TheRooftopParty]

That startup at the end was hilarious 😂

[@crazyforcars]

Bad luck for Craig basically. But not with Geoff. You're such a nice and fair guy.

[@Crushwokery]

Some you win some you don't, it's the nature of the beast when dealing with old gems. Not a total loss though General, the whole world now knows you're no Arthur Daily but a STRAIGHT Arrow 👍

[@calsgonefishing5812]

Geoff, you are an honourable man. Kudos Sir.

[@Successfulgardendesign]

Good on you for getting them home! What a pain about the Volvo though 🤞for a cheap fix!

[@Craig-wp3pz]

Hopefully it's a cheap easy fix,neglected fuel filter, dodgy relay or something simple, at least you got the man back home 🏡 ⬅️👶 🚗 🔧 And stood by the warranty Triple 7 warranty protection is a winner 🏆

[@dbt2787]

Love the tractorish sound of the 850 TDI starting and idling👌

[@1live2]

Well done Geoff, you are a gentleman and so is Craig! You will figure it out... A stupid sensor, cable or relay. If you get a nice car with the steering wheel on the correct side I would buy from you with the 777 warranty. The start up of your car is epic. Cheers mate!

[@garethbrooke9663]

Gutted for both of you gentlemen, hopefully an easy fix 👍

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Colour coding the bumpers and trim would look great on this or any 850.

[@bentullett6068]

Great you gave him a lift back to Wales. It will be interesting to see what the diagnosis is.

[@johndutton9739]

I have two cars, a 2002 lupo and a 2007 bmw 520d, both failed to start due to immobilised issues - still not got 520d running. My 1969 Volvo - starts from a Jerry can even after a 15year lay up! My 99 e39 looks like it’s heading for scrap due to rust despite running fine. Bonkers really old cars.

[@edwardmurray8507]

That prolonged starting is hilarious, make sure you have a spare starter motor 😂

[@severnsea]

Had a tip that using a heat gun on the plastic (i.e. bumpers) does a brilliant job of restoring them. Never tried it to be fair, bought the heat gun then sold the car I was going to use it on.

[@brillbilly]

While your were cranking your Volvo i had time to make a bacon roll lol

[@karenseale3769]

I’d buy a car from you Geoff …….. what a gent! 👏👏

[@matthewwiddows6319]

Pos 2 on ignition, press schrader valve on passengercend of fuel rail to see if you have fuel.

[@skyll4141]

I had fuel pump relay cracked solder joints before. took it apart and reflowed the solder joints.

[@colinsmith8643]

Good on you driving them back. It’s what I would have done! :)

[@kim007250]

Geoff is a Top Bloke

[@markscarborough1018]

Hahaha, nine cars, none work ... I know the feeling!

[@djtaylorutube]

With regard to the long start time for your car, is it like that when cold? A common issue is the non return valve failing due to age and the fuel drains back to the tank, leaving the fuel rail unpressurised, such that when you start cranking, you're doing so while the fuel pump is also priming. On ours, we just turn ignition on and wait, you can hear the fuel rail pressurise and then when it's done, THEN crank. I'd be interested to know if yours is doing that.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Hmmmmm I shall try this. It fires lovely in cold weather!

[@djtaylorutube]

@@GeoffBuysCars It may not be that then still worth confirming though, possibly temperature sensor? If it's passing the wrong temperature to the ECU then it will be incorrectly fuelling for temperature compensation.

[@jonathancollard3710]

You did an excellent edit on the “jinxed” scene…. I can’t stop giggling 😂. Not happy about the painful situation but the irony is classic 🤪

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Ah thank you, I enjoyed editing that...!

[@johncallaghan4616]

I‘m guessing the Valet didn’t help - could be useful to let her dry out - fair play on thei new Owners‘ safe return !

[@vspencer9764]

I’m gutted for you both, but hopefully it’s a cheap simple fix like a crank position sensor.

[@nickfarrow9032]

My 1997 V70 T5 broke down the day after I bought it 6 weeks ago and it had to be recovered. It's still broken, although it drives in limp mode. Supposedly a MAF issue but Bosch MAFs are unobtanium. Like Craig, I thought old Volvos were indestructible and reliable, but my experience so far has been anything but!

[@andrewnevermind4902]

There has to be some out there. I have xc90 and a v70 and they have the same maf sensor and housing, bought one in germany a few days back. If i see one I'll post a link in here.

[@nickfarrow9032]

@@andrewnevermind4902 There's some used ones around and you can get direct from Volvo for £270!! I imported a used one from the US which took two weeks to arrive, but either it's also knackered or there's another issue with the car as it wouldn't run at all with that one fitted

[@Ellis_B]

Damn man how much d you pay for her

[@nickfarrow9032]

@@Ellis_B £2.5k. It's a really good example bodily and interior wise. No rust and pretty clean inside. It's also pretty high spec from what I can tell. Full leather and gadgets. Shame it's crapped out so soon.

[@Ellis_B]

@@nickfarrow9032 good price. Usually something hidden to pay for when you've just brought a car

[@turriffterror3881]

Hope you didn't pay for Volvo brake pads. Mondeo pads are identical and cost 75% less.

[@iFateev]

Try heating the whitened bumper plastic with a gas burner, most often you can return the original black look. Do it carefully, do not stop in one place, so as not to overheat

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Done a video on this. I paint them metallic grey. Looks awesome.

[@martin1649]

It does. For a week maximum. Unless you treat the plastic immediately to some sort of ceramic dressing.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

@@martin1649 Nope. Did the plastics on my red TDi a year ago. Still looking just fine.

[@billynomates920]

@@GeoffBuysCars interesting. some swear it doesn't last, some swear it does. i can't see the sae doing a paper on plastic compounds and torch techniques but there are possibly variables at play. perhaps they should form a society of used automotive engineers to test this sort of thing! 😃

[@marksmith5156]

They called me "last leg auto's" I give an end of the road warranty on every car I sold about 100 meters till the end of our road

[@Philljag]

Your in the big apple car park? I live in Swansea 😂

[@Stratoszero]

Its a horrible feeling if you are an honest person when you sell your previously reliable car and it gives the next really nice person nothing but grief. Sold my lovely low miles Corsa C to a local young lad who has had 2 breakdowns in the middle of nowhere, found myself offering to fit his new brake discs for him by way of compo 😆 By contrast I've spent 25 grand on a Lotus before and had nothing but indifference from the dealer I bought it from when a solitary fault showed up...

[@stevewilliams1654]

I have just watched wheeler dealers with a Volvo 240 great car

[@johndutton9739]

Thanks - just watched it too - got 4 Volvos - 3 240s and a 145. Great cars and will start after a lay up unlike my 57 bmw!!

[@HOMEHUBBY2]

Great video,shame the trusty Volvo broke down on Craig,we’re in France with a freelander 1 td4,its still going,touch wood

[@DigiDriftZone]

In fairness, that’s much cheaper than a battery repair for £12k for an 8 year old Tesla! Hopefully you don’t need a flat bed either. That’s very nice of you though!

[@mrade5321]

'OLD VOLVO'S NEVER DIE' 🤭🤭🤭 Joking aside, I'm sure it's nothing serious and the old girl will be back on the road in no time. Fair play for honouring the warranty 👍

[@jontheodore8450]

You need Change Warranty Conditions “ To the end of the road or until it gets Hot, which ever comes First” that’s the one I use..👍

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I like that...

[@Naebothernosey]

My 850 T-5 is in the same colour of blue as that 20v. And my 850 TDI takes as long to start as yours wheb hot. Must be factory standard 😆

[@Dunkelzeitgeist]

Geoff warranty, where's mine? I only live next door to you and the T5 is broken more than it works 😂 I'm dreading the MOT, cannot afford all the lights on the dash or the suspension 😂

[@xboxcrazee]

Isnt that the car you raffled to Beardy Ian IKS. Didn’t see that on the channel.

[@Muppet.master]

Top man geoff buys and sells and gives above and beyond sales services.... Bit too long for a channel name !?!?😂 ..tip top man you are bro ❤

[@briankinder9292]

Takesme back to my 740 est, approaching Saltash bridge engine died, would not start.Called the AA man, he gets his hammer, hits alternater a couple times, say's try that, engine starts, Next day I fit new brushes, never had another problem, bar head failure. First car I have ever had that will not run without a working alternater, but then it was a Volvo.

[@johnmosley7039]

Fair play Youve now got to treat wife to a romantic weekend

[@paulpaintshop103]

Good morning Geoff 👍👍

[@AaaaandAction]

Discs, pads and callipers …….. standard long term maintenance. Not exactly a reliability issue.

[@randisallah]

I would just say that it's not the best idea to keep cranking the engine for that long continuously, simply as you can burn the starter out.

[@BusbyTreeSurgery]

Oh dear me that is a fine cost to get it legal, i am rebuilding an RB44 , just one cost re=core radiator £385, oh here is another one replace vacuum pump £210 ,

[@andyredvolvo9434]

👀👌the red 240 wheeler dealers just did would do me❤

[@mckenzie125]

maf sensor? my t5 started to go bad then wouldn't fire, maf senor solved the issue

[@alexanderharris9407]

Love the number plate

[@MichaelSmith-cl1uo]

YOU SHOULD KNOW THE R in the Volvo V70 R /V60R stands for Repair!! Loll

[@roadracermark7946]

It would be great if you teamed up with Alex & Taylor from "Autoalex Cars" it would be a great combo. Maybe a Christmas special? Like the old Top gears.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

He’s far too big to stoop to the level of Geoff buys cars!

[@wearetomorrowspast.5617]

I can almost see my house across the bay from the car park. Tidy.

[@bertieschitz-peas429]

Geoff must have driven past my place down the M4 earlier, Michael Douglas and Zeta-Jones have a holiday home in Mubbles.

[@Dunkelzeitgeist]

Lemme know if you wana roadtrip the 850 to Swansea one day, I'll give ye a lift back 😂

[@stuarthills7676]

Could be the throttle body ? 🤔 did happen to me lol 😆

[@JumboWatts]

Bet he started it and then turned it off within seconds..Its always been an issue with them

[@visionsinblue7093]

VAL-IT is cleaning or detailing a car, VAL-AY is a manservant.

[@NZ78503]

I guess you won't be entering that slow starting Volvo in the Le Mans race.😂

[@GeoffBuysCars]

No on, i'd win Le Mans. I wouldn't need a fuel stop, ha ha

[@NZ78503]

@@GeoffBuysCars Touche

[@zlatanmorrison8182]

Quite an unfortunate number plate on this one....from a Scottish perspective :D

[@shaunoconnell312]

Things I trust. 1. God 2. My old Volvo 3. 4.

[@cruxc4459]

Geoff what's going mate you are the master of disaster. Lucky your him your a good guy. Your going to have to do a double coronation chicken raffle to recoup some of the cash you've lost. I've got my eye on that saab 9000

[@robinforrest7680]

You could definitely be somewhere worse than mumbles. Imagine you’d got stuck in Stinson 😂. You’ve got 14 pubs to choose from as far as I remember from my student days in the early ‘80’s. Actually it must have been quite good as I don’t remember very much tbh

[@zigzag7194]

50 miles to the gallon how many batteries to the month 😂

[@mattm6720]

😂 I bet the mrs wasn't impressed. How do you get away with it? If that were me I'd be putting the kids to bed every night for a week, and it would still be brought up 5 years later.

[@samwild851]

porshe what a car lovelyl

[@samwild851]

far play a true gent collecting them and driving them back anything with the word old in front of it will cost you money old cars old houses old people but never a volvo

[@harrynorcliffe-hlc6787]

13 seconds to start... lol

[@billynomates920]

that bay looks nice because i can't see any windmills.

[@mikespikeey4625]

how much was the chippy and fishy last time i got that it was £3.50 some years a go

[@wearetomorrowspast.5617]

You'd be looking at about £8.00 nowadays.

[@cornovii3012]

Lucky to get a bag of just chips for that now .

[@mikespikeey4625]

@@wearetomorrowspast.5617 £8.00 for fish & chips wow thats gone f--king up is the fish a live for that price

[@wearetomorrowspast.5617]

@@mikespikeey4625 And the worst of it is that there are only 2 chippies that I would get food from. There's a lot of rubbish places here now.

[@kurtseyffert6649]

battered sausage and chips £5