George RR Martin on the Inspiration for Tyrion Lannister

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A Song of Ice and Fire/game of Thrones Author George R. R. Martin Interview

[@Evilanious]

The iron throne, made of swords and uncomfortable to sit on is probably a reference to Yeltsin's saying that "you can make a throne of bayonets but you can't sit on it for very long". Yeltsin said this a couple of years before the first book came out. It's also possible that Martin and Yeltsin came up with the same metaphor independently. A throne made of swords/bayonet as a metaphor for a rule based on violence is fairly straightforward.

[@nicholascharles9625]

The irony of yeltsin saying that

[@Lone_Wolf_Media]

If that's where the idea for the Iron Throne came from, then that's very interesting. I always thought it was a reference to the story of the Sword of Damocles, in which an aristocrat (Damocles) got to be king for a day with all of the perks of the position, but had a sword pointing towards him, hanging above the throne by a single horse's hair. The message of the story being, those in power should never be comfortable in it.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

​@@Lone_Wolf_MediaOf course it didn't come from Yeltsin, be real.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Cool, yet another westernern idolizing russia... When will you realize they didn't have decent rulers, they did not have proletariat revolution, they never had democracy. Yeltsin gave his country away to kgb (not that he had much choice ofc), he wasn't some wise old man.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

OF COURSE Martin didn't take it from a modern autocracy, get real and stop idolizing t*c state!

[@adamstockley9683]

Am I the only one that realised that the Tyrells are exactly like the Woodvilles. Married Into the royal family, king dies and from that point on they desperately try to hold onto power by swapping sides but their whole house falls out of existence.

[@user-db7om5wu5j]

Good catch! Wouldn't work for the books, there are loads of tyrells to carry on the name. But good call for the show!

[@bubbles574]

Youre right, i didnt notice before. Elizabeth woodville used her charm and beauty the same way margerey did

[@diarradunlap9337]

You know, you're absolutely right. Also, Richard III got the shaft from History and Shakespeare.

[@Miuranger1]

Tyrells are the most powerful unlike Woodvilles

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

​@@diarradunlap9337Everyone knows about Richard being villanized by tudors, martin even spoke of that in this very video.

[@harriet2114]

I thought this video was about Tyrion.... Just over a minute...

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Most of videos on this channel are like that. Have somewhat clickbait titles based on just the (first) part of the video.

[@Don_Kedic]

@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Eh it is a good channel and it isn't clickbait, more he is taking interesting snippets from interviews as the headlines and then has some extra stuff.

[@dnatsrednUouYoD]

What is this documentary called?? I'd like to watch it in its entirety.

[@Markadown]

Something like "the real history of game of thrones"

[@lordodysseus]

Here's a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZXaZIGumdakatE

[@Ahmed-ii7up]

@@lordodysseus thanks!

[@cassarinotsorry160]

@@lordodysseus thank you! I just posted s comment asking the same thing!

[@calicoD]

@@lordodysseus Thank you !!

[@Boyzby]

It's so strange to see a historian talking so authoritatively while wearing a leather jacket.

[@messiha666]

He's them hot-headed historian who doesn't play by the rules

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

Man, I love leather Jackets.

[@Smashman012]

@@messiha666 😂😂😂😂

[@TheAero1221]

@@messiha666 I'll bet he wears aviators, too.

[@JohnSmith-ls3um]

If he’s a British historian and he doesn’t wear tweed, he’s dead to me.

[@davestuddaman8127]

Didn’t they find Richard’s III skeleton? The skeleton had scoliosis

[@davidkellett4794]

@Mr. Obunga yeah they found him in an old daewoo on blocks. i think sleeping in the car did his back in somethin fierce

[@thedumbdog1964]

The skeleton did but did Richard?

[@ocean7849]

You think scoliosis means he looked weird? A lot of people have scoliosis and people hardly even notice it. Yeah, he had scoliosis, but the tudors exaggerated it

[@lukkyluciano]

3% of the world has scoliosis

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@thedumbdog1964 it's been proven to be Richard's skeleton.

[@chicktait5544]

Makes me a bit sad watching the now,remembering how good this show was and what it became

[@carnthecorby]

A lot of historical accounts state Richard III as the Renaissance prince with a great sense of right and wrong. They all say amazing things about him until Henry usurped the throne off him.

[@invaderzod8092]

I’m having too much fun with these GoT “historians” lmao.

[@Silvergurl80]

☠🤣

[@gandalfgrey91]

Im a laymen in terms of history, give me some examples of inaccuracies please?

[@factbeaglesarebest]

They are discussing ASOIAF really... have you read the books? They read full of historical context...

[@shinobifirecracker6671]

This is an attempt at an insult that doesn’t make any sense.

[@knwr]

Others as well as George have commented on the inspiration from historical families like York and in general the 100 year war period. Did you get a phd in history and find the only use for your degree was making pompous comments on the internet?

[@philipzahn491]

Very little on Tyrion here to be honest.

[@chunkyMunky329]

That's punny

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

That's how this channel works, gives clickbait titles based on just one portion of the video.

[@roronoadkat6997]

I didn't need to see Ned beheaded again

[@DarthPlato]

The dwarf from Dune II may have some inspiration as well, GoT and Dune share themes.

[@Jess-T]

And Max Von Sydow :)

[@RigbyWilde]

i see a man of culture here

[@MuricaTurkey]

He wasn't a literal hunchback, but he did have actually pretty severe scoliosis. They found it when they found his body a few years ago. But that doesn't necessarily mean he was as bad in character as his enemies described. To be fair, I'm not sure when George was interviewed for this. His body was only very recently discovered and proven by DNA to be Richard III. Before that, most historians believed the reports of Richard's Scoliosis to be totally false propaganda. So if this interview is more than, maybe...5 years old? I think? Then Martin's view of it being all lies would have been the same as most credible historians at the time. I'm actually related to Richard III distantly. Probably some kind of cousin. We share a maternal line (our maternal DNA haplogroup is the same). Maybe it's just coincidence, but Scoliosis also runs in my mother's family. My mother and brother have it. Not as bad as Richard III, but not mild either. It's been very painful for them. It really sucks.

[@joncarroll2040]

The interview was from at least the fourth season since they show Tyrion's trial so no earlier than 2013.

[@laughingvampire7555]

The Irony of Ned is that he was the most honorable and he received the punishment of the dishonorable.

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

No. Beheading was honorable.

[@MissPopuri]

So begins the Winter of Our Discontent with the fall of the House of York...

[@warbler1984]

Now is the winter of our discontent Made glorious summer by this sun of York;

[@YodaOnABender]

1:40 the fact that they cast someone who’s actually from Yorkshire to play Ned was just perfect

[@jsweetness5]

Ned is the quintessential medival Lord in my mind...Family, Honor, Duty Do you feel me?

[@faisalkamal4319]

So Ned is a Tully

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

I love Dan Jones! He‘s such a cool historian. Him talking about GOT characters is the best treat of the day 🥰

[@LuzMaria95]

yes! he’s my favorite!

[@countravid3768]

Kelly DeVries "I have no idea where George got the idea for the iron throne." During the hundred years war, when Henry V and his father were kings of England, they were at odds with, the king of France Charles VI, who ruled for 43 years, he started his Reign at the age of 11 and was acclaimed the title Charles the beloved, bet fell into insanity in episodes, as he got older these episodes would last longer, coining the name Charles the mad king. Charles believed he was made of glass, and when he was sat on his throne one day, he claimed that there were a thousand spikes protruding from his throne and piercing him.

[@VerilyViscous]

On top of that, it's a rather unsubtle depiction of the Sword(s?) of Damocles, but instead of being over the head it's under the butt. Of course the king/queen of seven different kingdoms should be uncomfortable, they have to deal with the competing interests of hundreds of houses, from the Great Houses of the Seven Kingdoms to the lowest vassals, and each and every one of them could be conspiring to take that seat from you.

[@nelsonfraser2800]

No, he didn’t have a hunch back as such, but did have severe scoliosis. It seems entirely reasonable to me that like Chinese whispers this physical deformity was passed down through the ages and became a hunch back that Shakespeare put into his plays.

[@Luanna801]

Agreed, but it is worth noting Shakespeare wasn't writing all that many "ages" later, only about 100 years after Richard's death. (That may sound like a long time, but in terms of history it isn't really. In Shakespeare's time there would still have been people whose grandparents had seen the actual Richard.)

[@dysmissme7343]

Chinese??!

[@stephenshipley1066]

The Hastings "summary execution" is more Tudor mythology. Charged, found guilty and executed one month later.

[@robertocontreras9143]

I think in my opinion Tyrion can be more like Robert Cecil ,he was the secretary of Elizabeth l and her adviser, Elizabeth l used to call him my little frog because he was somewhat no physical good looking

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Except that Daenerys is no Elizabeth.

[@twstf8905]

I want to see this entire program, from wherever this particular clip came

[@carolynallisee2463]

Despite what GRRM says, Richard the Third did have scoliosis: noticeable in his vertebral column when they recovered his skeleton from that car park. It was definitely not as severe as Tudor historians tried to make out, but it was there, and would have been noticeable when his was alive!

[@Lizzie-ve7kt]

Well…Richard the III did usurp the throne from his nephew and have all of his brother’s children declared bastards so he’s not exactly winning uncle or king of the year. Plus, he did actually have severe scoliosis that while not a hunchback, certainly gives more credence to the stories that arose about him and shows that at least in his case where there’s smoke there’s fire.

[@ribkan4759]

2:50 Hastings

[@jgibbs651]

"16th century historians" equals two people - Bishop Morton and Thomas More senior. As the discovery of Richard III's skeleton proved, he was NOT deformed, he just had scoliosis. The angle of his curve was less than mine is after treatment (and I am definitely not disabled) and we know that Richard III was a vigorous, hard-fighting military man.

[@epsleon]

Inspiration for Tyrion, spends the majority of the video on Ned Stark.

[@greyLeicester]

Richard the 3rd remains appeared in a dodgy car park spot in Leicester. Come visit his museum and tomb here 👍🏻

[@greva2904]

Turns out Richard III did have a deformed spine and did have a hunchback. Amazing what you can find under a Leicester car park.

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

Just read up a bit on Richard the Third. Damn, he actually did a lot of good things. Shame his reputation was tarnished by the Tutors.

[@JayBenjamin9214]

I don't know who this guy is (the dark-haired one) but he's magnificent. His enthusiasm makes this even more interesting!

[@lordodysseus]

This is a great video, but that dude's jacket looks great. I really like it.

[@JessCausey]

Dan Jones

[@awomansfriend5784]

I think that’s what’s made game of thrones, so brilliant they are actually based on people for their eire.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Tyrion freed his brother, he committed treason. 💥🔥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥💥

[@midnightchannel111]

How does HE "know" Richard the had no physical deformities? His skelton has been found and you can see the twisted spine that he had to labor under his whole life...

[@jrsands]

Richard III was a twisted body. His skeleton has been unearthed & he did suffer from sever scoliosis.

[@or6397]

Is there one for the inspiration for Jorah Mormont?

[@TheHiddenNarrative]

He was in fact, based heavily on the life of Edward the Blue-Balled.

[@syeds.1273]

@@TheHiddenNarrative sounds accurate enough lmao

[@blazefa.]

@@TheHiddenNarrative LMAO

[@Ciara1594]

Considering that he accused his mother of adultery because he was the only one who looked liked his father the king. And thereby despose of his two nephews (The Princes in the Tower) because they were "bastards" and so have himself declared King of England. Hell, he even stole his younger nephew's NAME! If Prince Richard had become King HE would've been Richard lll not his uncle! So yes, Richard lll did come by his reputation honestly. Btw, I believe that it was Henry VII who had the two Princes murdered. He had no legal claim to the throne of England, his great grandmother had been Queen of England but she was French so she didn't count. He was living in poverty in the South of France in a rundown castle. So yeah, he was the one who had the most to gain from the Prince's deaths. Why do you think that Henry VIII was so effing desperate to have a son? To have a SON would solidify his precarious claim to the throne especially since there were others who's claim to the throne of England was much more stronger and legal his own. His own wife Catherine of Aragon, according to genealogists and historians say SHE was MORE English than Henry VIII and HER claim to the throne was more valid than his could ever be. So if she had been born a Scorpio she could legally despose of her husband and rule England herself. A Scorpio wouldn't have taken his shit for as long as Queen Catherine of Aragon did. A Scorpio would've clipped his balls. (figuratively speaking that is). 😏

[@AbdulShinwari]

Watching these videos feels like game of thrones is based on true history. 😂

[@alanthe2]

That first Richard III illustration looks so much like Kevin Eldon. (Who was also in the show as a Gold Cloak).

[@thunderchild1083]

History is written by the winners

[@shanejohns7901]

It seems to me that having dwarfs in the bloodline of Targaryans wouldn't necessarily be bad, especially for the 'Dragonseeds' who are expected to ride the dragons. They'd be able to ride younger dragons sooner. And they'd be a lesser weight burden for the dragon itself as it tries to maneuver and fly. "In Game of Thrones, there is a controversial theory that Tyrion Lannister's biological father is the Mad King Aerys Targaryen, not Tywin Lannister, as is commonly believed."

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Very good👍🔥🔥

[@cassarinotsorry160]

Does anyone what documentary this clip is from? I have seen some other clips from it & I'm enthralled! I need to see the entire show!

I love history more because of Martin.

[@randomuser6175]

I think Martin inspired from the Roman emperor Claudius The Fool while writing Tyrion

[@sportsnewz5608]

Hastings: the great of Edward IV Beheaded for Aristocrats

[@drunkenknight]

I feel like these history nerds really take away from the mixing of cultures and imagination at work and just reduce George’s work to a War of the Roses fanfic

[@Kains_Gaming_Channel]

1:24. I like the editing

[@Philipp.of.Swabia]

Richard the third wasn’t a cripple, the tudors made an extreme representation of him, Richard wore armor, he fought in battles, a cripple probably couldn’t have done that.

[@brucefreadrich1188]

Josephine Tey's "The Daughter of Time" is worth your time - if you have not read it…

[@angel91485]

Tyrion is really handsome here, when he was looking up at Lysa and Robyn...

[@Sky-bu1jj]

@Anjelica Snorcket To be fair they probably didn't have many choices on the actor.

[@theodorberg8473]

"The world of Westeros"

[@Jippa_33]

I think the Iron Throne is a sword of Damocles reference

[@greenman6141]

Yes, Richard 3rd was demonized. BUT...he did have his two young nephews murdered. He didn't kill all the people that Shakespeare's play has him do. But, child killer, kin killer. Yup, no one of any substance doesn't say he is 99% the author of those murders.

[@somerledislay9987]

England , england,england,england,england and england of course it is when is it not

[@mrnobody6447]

He did have a twisted back they found his corpse

[@Josh_J91]

0.47 I'm sorry George but your wrong on this one..... Richard was arguably one of Englands most famous kings but he was deformed and hunched back they found his body in Leicester in 2013 and ot was hunchback

[@Calinks]

"As the viewer we know that's not the whole story." brother that ain't 2 percent of the story lol.

[@freybier2262]

Can someone tell where these interviews are from? Is there a documentary or is this DVD bonus content?

[@pcpolice2518]

Best thing to do in game of thrones... watch the episode where Tyrion has trial in kings landing and where all the fckin ppl are yelling at him and shit, and then right after watch the episode where dany burns the whole fckin city to the ground. It is the most satisfying thing ever lol

[@factbeaglesarebest]

Like everything else, the show fucked up Tyrion... look at Tyrion’s POV chapters in Dance... sure he’s become severely dark and depressed for a reason but with the battle of Meereen he’s using that political brilliance again.

[@Woodsy2575]

But Richard III really was a hunchback

[@dysmissme7343]

2:08 look at all those legs!!

[@oceanpacific3841]

Wasn't he inspired by Willow the movie ?

[@davidcoleman9458]

If G.O.T. Was 10years younger then Warwick Davis would have played Tyrion

[@spoolofflarn8760]

@@davidcoleman9458 Would've done a better job too, I think lol... and warwick aint that good

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Someone who was a genius for five installments and then just turned to utter shit. Where would GRRM ever find a real life person who could parallel such a thing??

[@shannonllewellyn7261]

That's not true; Hastings didn't help Richard take the throne. He helped remove Edward's son from the Woodvilles, helped to bring them down, and supported Richard as protector, but didn't support his bid for the throne (which perhaps he made in part to protect himself from Edward V when he came of age and blamed him for the Woodvilles' deaths); he was loyal to Edward V. That's why Richard turned against him.

[@Ukitsu2]

There's more than one or two countries in the world... and more important ones during the Middle Ages.

[@kevincroughan4112]

What are these clips taken from?

[@8440k]

Why are people forgetting Faramir, Bromomir and Denethor dynamics to Tywin, Jaime and Tyrion dynamics, They are parallel to each other. The only thing is Faramir was a saint, but Tyrion is far from it.

[@kittysplode]

"a cripple"

[@Alpha1918]

I don’t know how Cersei actually believed Tyrion did it. I get her wanting to get rid of him for other reasons but she full on ate into that propaganda, and was pretty gullible.

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

To be fair she is obsessed with a prophecy that says she will be killed by him.

[@weissrose7165]

Right before I read the books I had thoughts on what Tyrion looked like. Small, hunched over, and has big eyes.

[@danielsouza-xr2ml]

this is a documentary?

[@ivotenotocensorship5247]

Is that the chegara hat

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Joffrey got off easy ...

[@ashuroking007]

Tyrion the imp 😅

[@merlinwindrivver600]

Didn't know charlie puth was a historian

[@craigchampagne7797]

Richard 3 was AT THE VERY LEAST responsible for allowing his child nephews to be murdered. The revisionism has gone a bit too far.

[@cardboredkatana]

So George RR Martin is the most successful unoriginal writer of fantasy is what you're saying?

[@skullduggerysmiles8393]

I was going to point out that Richard the third was a victim of propaganda, aimed at discrediting him, look at the role Shakespeare played in his bad press. Contributors before me have already made such a good job of explaining this I shall tip my hat to their contribution and just mention a comment my old lecturer used to say, 'beware of experts, remember Chernobyl.'

[@brianfinnegan9700]

16th century historians? He was dead by 1485

[@yellowantonio-nado7761]

The fuck? The tyrion comparison was less than 2 minutes The rest was about others haha

[@cauliflower6439]

Second , but I’m ashamed

[@Awesome1094]

You forgave us, so we forgive you Jesus

[@corey-bird3489]

Cauli Flower Yeah because you can’t make an actual comment when my comment sections are a blessed ghost town not full of this tripe.

[@MrMarek19]

Cersei die too dany dies joffrey dies....robert dies.....

[@jamomma7296]

He literally copied shit straight from history books. As a writer you feel grimy and kind of fucked for jacking shit but I guess the lesson is all story-tellers do this. It makes writing a book like this that much easier to have direct plot points to hit that have happened, and write around them.

FICTION EXPLAINING FICTION….ALL A STAGE-CAGE

[@kamikazejump5022]

First

[@Ahmed-ii7up]

Nothing less was expected from you petyr.

[@corey-bird3489]

Kamikaze Jump Not to talk about the video 🙄

[@matthias2756]

They found his body and he actually was a hunch back 😂

[@givesmeconniptions7621]

Nope he had another spine problem but looked nothing like a hunchback and only the people who saw him closely probably noticed he had something wrong with his back.

[@matthias2756]

Luke ben scoliosis is a hunch back 😂