George RR Martin on Why the Show Didn't Cut Off Tyrion's Nose

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@Blake_Stone
@Blake_Stone 4 жыл бұрын
That sneaky Peter Dinklage read the books first and put a clause in his contract ensuring they wouldn't mutilate his face.
@1handedtyper
@1handedtyper 4 жыл бұрын
Well there is a reason they call him "Sneaky Pete".
@jackrobinson9403
@jackrobinson9403 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a fictional version of sneaky pete, where he was played by a full sized actor, dinklages schedule musnt of matched up.
@AlrightThere
@AlrightThere 4 жыл бұрын
Then his face got mutilated anyway at the battle of the black water.
@wooshbait36
@wooshbait36 4 жыл бұрын
Idiot they would never actually cut his nose. You play video games too much, that's why new generations are so gullible and violent, becuase of video games.
@Z.-.S
@Z.-.S 4 жыл бұрын
Professor Stexy Such a typical stupid boomer comment. There is not a single study that actually links violence with video games. It stems from other issues.
@Mick-hp4yg
@Mick-hp4yg 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the show before I read the books, so even though Tyrion is described as super ugly to look at, I still see him as PD in my head XD
@devenfeldstein9796
@devenfeldstein9796 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@TheDzudas
@TheDzudas 4 жыл бұрын
Same with me, for every charters from the show. These that i dont know i imagine people from my life that are simmilar to charters
@kasunlee7489
@kasunlee7489 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Same here lol
@evanhayes5891
@evanhayes5891 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, it's PD you see or XD?
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 3 жыл бұрын
I had read the books first, and I *still* see Peter Dinklage in my head as Tyrion! He just owned that role so completely, even if the last few seasons of scripts underused his talent criminally.
@anarki777
@anarki777 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even read the books, but I still want him to finish them so much!
@Hurubus-Cyclonus
@Hurubus-Cyclonus 4 жыл бұрын
I've read for now the five books, and I've watch zero episode from the tv haha.
@abirdhasnoname.5376
@abirdhasnoname.5376 4 жыл бұрын
You probably heard this before but if you liked the show and enjoy reading you should definitely give them a go. Such a rich story with so many interesting aspects. The show was amazing (I watched a few seasons before picking up the books) but it doesn’t really even do the books justice imho.
@tlf2818
@tlf2818 4 жыл бұрын
@@abirdhasnoname.5376 I'm going to read it! I just wish he could finish them first so I know the huge story I'm going to start reading will actually have an ending =p
@abirdhasnoname.5376
@abirdhasnoname.5376 4 жыл бұрын
Wassoll Das they added sex and plot holes.
@SerpenthereTerrori
@SerpenthereTerrori 4 жыл бұрын
@@abirdhasnoname.5376 bro no offense but why tf is your profile picture a random wight that we see in a frame of the show? Why this wight specifically ?
@TheKrazyLobster
@TheKrazyLobster 4 жыл бұрын
Truth be told, book-Tyrion would be pretty horrifying to look at.
@iloveanothermanswives4278
@iloveanothermanswives4278 4 жыл бұрын
Book Tyrion is already very deformed before his nose was cut lol
@andrewdaniels8496
@andrewdaniels8496 4 жыл бұрын
Book Tyrion is a bad ass. He didn't even fight in the battle of the Green Fork in the show, he just got trampled and woke up and the battle was over. In the book he killed a few people and took a prisoner.
@JayOrDev
@JayOrDev 4 жыл бұрын
But that's the point - he's supposed to be visually repulsive, that's what contrasts who he is inside
@richardsantanna5398
@richardsantanna5398 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdaniels8496 I found that pretty unrealistic tho. I mean how could a dwarf make a good warrior?
@andrewdaniels8496
@andrewdaniels8496 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardsantanna5398 did you really bring up realism in a series that has dragons. George Martin is the Lord of Light. What he says goes
@DoubleO88
@DoubleO88 4 жыл бұрын
In the grand scheme of things, Tyrion's nose wasn't the biggest change or omission we should've worried about. Looking at you Lady Stoneheart among many other things
@jean-piereboth3284
@jean-piereboth3284 4 жыл бұрын
Exactley, I missed the bloody mummers in the show. And they corrupt fantastic book character like Maester Marwyn. The House of the undying is in the books my fyvorite chapter. In the show they horribel adapt this book chapter.
@Dalsemien
@Dalsemien 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair: the episodes of Game of Thrones took months to finish and were vastly expensive. It would have been impossible to adapt everything. Television is such a fundamentally different medium.
@Killmaster7
@Killmaster7 4 жыл бұрын
For me, it's Patchface.
@meatsack3938
@meatsack3938 4 жыл бұрын
@@Killmaster7 I love patchface however I can understand the choice to leave him out the tv series. I think it could be quite difficult and time consuming to explain him, I also reckon he wouldn't appeal to the mainstream audience. They did at least put his song in the show
@DoubleO88
@DoubleO88 4 жыл бұрын
@@jr5925 Lady Stoneheart would've blown everyone away, Michelle Fairly would've been haunting as Lady Stoneheart. I don't understand why it wouldve been too much?? Imagine her capturing Brienne and Pod and sending Brienne to capture Jamie Lannister and make Brienne have a huge decision to make between loyalty to a zombified Catlyn which is not the woman who she looked up to anymore but she still feels some kind of obligation to or loyalty to Jamie Lannister who saved her and entrusted her with a mission of glory and who she also fancies the pants off. Would've been far better than Jaime fucking around in Dorne and Brienne staring out her window for episode upon episode waiting for Sansa to stop getting butt raped.
@harsimaja9517
@harsimaja9517 4 жыл бұрын
“Some writers have big problems with endings... especially for big sprawling...” Oh indeed?
@Thorskad
@Thorskad 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should work on your writing then, har simaja. You probably don't even have paper in your country. Pathetic.
@andresmendoza7940
@andresmendoza7940 4 жыл бұрын
Sooooo he doesnt have paper in his country ....but he has a computer and wifi? Idiot haha
@RedFloyd469
@RedFloyd469 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thorskad Nice casual bigotry there, pal. I can smell the edge from across the atlantic.
@kirbyjaeger2506
@kirbyjaeger2506 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thorskad that's a yikes from me, dawg.
@zakunick1
@zakunick1 4 жыл бұрын
CLOUD Fine, tell him to write his own story and see how easy it is. Don’t be an asshole after that.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
Me: "Well they couldn't really have actually cut off Peter Dinklage's nose..." GRRM, an intellectual: "...that would have been prohibited by the Actor's Guild."
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 4 жыл бұрын
And UN Hunan rights.
@wasd3108
@wasd3108 2 жыл бұрын
why is it so hard to quote properly? just write what he said...
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 2 жыл бұрын
@@wasd3108 ...what?
@macbethhm
@macbethhm Жыл бұрын
@@RobertK1993 hunan
@wangtoriojackson4315
@wangtoriojackson4315 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen the full interview this snippet is taken from. I have no idea why anyone involved with it thought it was a good idea to take two questions at a time.
@Likeitornot91
@Likeitornot91 4 жыл бұрын
It makes zero sense right?
@theM4R4T
@theM4R4T 4 жыл бұрын
@ShadeRunner What's your problem nimrod?
@zekun4741
@zekun4741 4 жыл бұрын
they do the double questions all the time in interviews and Q&As in all fields, probably because they usually have two lines in each side of the room, and the first question always gets forgotten about or very little time is spent on it because they always forget while answering the second question.
@RedFloyd469
@RedFloyd469 4 жыл бұрын
@@zekun4741 But that doesn't answer the question...why do they organise it like that? It sounds incredibly stupid, as he could simply answer one question at a time and be way more efficient...
@Splattedable
@Splattedable 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedFloyd469 Yeah I was wondering that. Seem to just make things harder.
@Mayur_
@Mayur_ 3 жыл бұрын
""I've never been a eight years old girl'' George RR Martin, 2020.
@soukikismet2485
@soukikismet2485 3 жыл бұрын
A true prophet and wordsmith🙏
@kkplx
@kkplx 4 жыл бұрын
It's just so obvious that a well produced cartoon would be the best way to adapt the full books.
@YeNZeC
@YeNZeC 4 жыл бұрын
Like the original lord of the rings? Yikes.
@Lurklen
@Lurklen 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it gets around so many hurdles, though it has plenty of its own. Chiefly, that western audiences still associate animation with children's entertainment. Secondly, getting good animation produced takes a lot of work, and you're beholden to your animation studios. I've always felt the same way about Wheel of TIme. God, can you imagine how much better the House of the Undying would have been?
@henrychinaski5938
@henrychinaski5938 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lurklen don't worry man , I am on it .
@lookingforsomething
@lookingforsomething 4 жыл бұрын
@@YeNZeC It was on an extremely low budget and used some weird techniques. He did say "well produced". I actually enjoyed the LotR cartoons. It's too bad they didn't finish adopting all the books.
@YeNZeC
@YeNZeC 4 жыл бұрын
@@lookingforsomething Wasn't the cartoons made like 50+ years ago... They used the same techniques as the old Disney films
@psychonaut1829
@psychonaut1829 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the reference in the show when Sersi sees him and says something like " oh thats it? I heard your nose got cut off"
@rexoid0800
@rexoid0800 4 жыл бұрын
Cersei
@jamisonwonch4715
@jamisonwonch4715 3 жыл бұрын
Sir C
@ashofedenofficial
@ashofedenofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Pikachu
@psychonaut1829
@psychonaut1829 3 жыл бұрын
Covfefe
@ijustwannaflybutigotworktodo
@ijustwannaflybutigotworktodo Жыл бұрын
I recently finished A Dance with Dragons and therefore ended my self-imposed avoidance of all things A Song of Ice and Fire online. Your channel is amazing, and I want to thank you for running it and compiling these glimpses into George R. R. Martin's mind. It's been such a treat to browse and enjoy after the novels.
@lordodysseus
@lordodysseus 4 жыл бұрын
In Captain America: The First Avenger a big chunk of the budget went to removing Red Skull's nose. And Tyrion has more screen time in some episodes than Red Skull did in the entire movie. So, yeah, he's got a point. Way too expensive.
@mohammedarafatlone
@mohammedarafatlone 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrion has the most episode appearance + most screen time for any character 😐
@micfail2
@micfail2 4 жыл бұрын
But they don't need to remove the nose with CGI, a prosthetic could do the job even more effectively at a fraction of the cost.
@Gannoh
@Gannoh 4 жыл бұрын
@@micfail2 a prosthetic is for adding stuff, not removing it
@sagan08
@sagan08 4 жыл бұрын
Gannoh I think he is being sarcastic..
@nont18411
@nont18411 4 жыл бұрын
Asad Khan Actually it can be said that Tyrion is the true protagonist of the show.
@TheOnlyCobalt212
@TheOnlyCobalt212 4 жыл бұрын
>Considered CGI Tyrion’s nose cut off >DIDNT CHANGE DANY’S EYES TO PURPLE
@ashofedenofficial
@ashofedenofficial 3 жыл бұрын
They can't render an actor unrecognizable unless the actor is willing to sign off on it. It's a right protected by their unions.
@chunkyMunky329
@chunkyMunky329 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashofedenofficial I don’t think contact lenses make an actress unrecognisable. And I really doubt an actress is going to draw the line there. Didn’t she change her hair colour for the show??
@ashofedenofficial
@ashofedenofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyMunky329 I was speaking about Tyrion's nose
@ashofedenofficial
@ashofedenofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyMunky329 also it's up to the actor or actress to decide what is and isn't going to make them unrecognizable I believe.
@chunkyMunky329
@chunkyMunky329 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashofedenofficial If they had been able to afford the CGI then I'm pretty certain the actor would accept it. Otherwise they just find a new actor.
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, some profound writing advice from GRRM midway through this Q&A!
@trenttrip6205
@trenttrip6205 4 жыл бұрын
As much as people give Martin credit for the realism of letting his characters die, his willingness to mutilate characters was always more impressive to me. Death can be glamourous, which isn't to say that the show doesn't feature plenty of gruesome humiliating deaths, but lots of characters die in ways that are dignified or even badass, that only make us admire them more and that don't allow the murderer to truly defeat them. Allowing Tyrion getting his nose cut off or Jaime his hand or Theon his..... y'know, is the quality of the series that best epitomizes the grisly and uncompromising reality of medieval times, choosing not to maintain his characters good looks was what truly elevated his stories over most glamorous, oversimplified, conventional fantasy. Can you imagine JRR Tolkien cutting off Aragorns nose? In the show, the scar makes Tyrion look more badass than disfigures him, it's a positive if anything for the viewers. In the books, it supplements his suffering and lends even more depth to this tragic characters story.
@beatriz6093
@beatriz6093 2 жыл бұрын
Brienne getting her cheek chewed off really shocked me, I remember having to pause reading cause i couldn't handle the gore
@nathanfrancis9376
@nathanfrancis9376 Жыл бұрын
Guess it makes sense. Jon Snow is the closest thing ASOIAF has to a conventional fantasy hero, and his scars from the warg bird are described as making him appear handsome.
@yourfriendoverseas5810
@yourfriendoverseas5810 9 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Frodo gets his finger bit off and gets an incurable wound as well. Merry suffers black breath.
@trenttrip6205
@trenttrip6205 9 ай бұрын
@@yourfriendoverseas5810 black breath is temporary and Frodo gets a single finger bitten off at the very end of the books, I’m talking about severe disfigurement that the audience has to actually deal with
@riftvallance2087
@riftvallance2087 4 жыл бұрын
Martin is surprisingly inspirational when he talks.
@caperature4335
@caperature4335 4 жыл бұрын
The cut off nose would have been more powerful. In the Gurm's version, from what I've read, Tyrion's motives are much more ambiguous when he goes back to King's Landing. Having a hideous, vengeful dwarf with no nose who killed his own father and sided with the Dothraki to raise King's Landing with a mad Targ would have been a much more interesting ambiguity. Imagine Tyrion apparently becoming all the things people said about him.
@taragonleaf8005
@taragonleaf8005 4 жыл бұрын
If we all stopped sticking this dude on panels and asking questiosn he's heard before he might actually find some time to write.
@trenttrip6205
@trenttrip6205 4 жыл бұрын
"I just wanted to get your opinion on how the show has deviated from your own writings" you could just feel him sigh
@JAGUART
@JAGUART 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping the panels might serve as some form of psychotherapy or brainstorming that could lead to some story epiphanies.
@poppapiltch5601
@poppapiltch5601 3 жыл бұрын
He seems only to happy to be here. Rumor has it he quite enjoys his level of celebrity 🤷
@12345678927164
@12345678927164 4 жыл бұрын
This is from the pre-covid days. Good times.
@plumbussmith
@plumbussmith 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, the title of the video was addressed right away. Well done.
@stephenb17
@stephenb17 4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people just simply forget or fail too grasp how expensive and time consuming big edits and fake prosthetics like that actually cost Just imagine not only the prosthetic its self but first getting the time too put it on, Getting people with the experience too be able too put it on quickly and consistently in the same spot and just the cost for the actor/actress themselves The walking dead had the a similar situation with rick and his hand getting cut off in the comics, they just simply couldn't afford in the budget for him too have a missing hand for the next several seasons episode in episode out.
@the_doomcliff
@the_doomcliff 3 жыл бұрын
To*, not too, it's painful to read.
@Pop_Shepski
@Pop_Shepski 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever noticed how Aaron became Comic Rick??! Compare pics, it's uncanny
@desireandfire
@desireandfire Жыл бұрын
Jaime has a missing hand tho I've never seen the walking dead
@thesaviorofsouls5210
@thesaviorofsouls5210 Жыл бұрын
@@desireandfire except he still had a hand, sure it was a "fake" hand lore wise, but its not like they had to edit his hand off and replace it with a prosthetic. Now imagine something which is constantly the main thing your eye falls on, the face. And now imagine removing the nose, every shot, every movement especially for a main character. And now imagine doing it so that it looks realistic, just not gonna happen.
@PBRatLord
@PBRatLord 7 ай бұрын
Ironically, one of my favorite story endings comes from RvB season 13, an internet comedy series that barely even *had* a story at the start. It's such a satisfyingly and well-written closer for such a goofy show.
@BingBangPoe
@BingBangPoe 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that always bothered me a bit is that the Targaryens don't have purple eyes in the show. It is one of their defining traits and all the actors would have to do would be wear colored contact lenses. It is a small detail that adds a lot to worldbuilding. Sure, it is not a crucial thing and not having doesn't make the show worse, obviously.
@tsnody2001
@tsnody2001 4 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, they tried it and it didn't look right on camera and would have been too expensive to CGI.
@shmabadu
@shmabadu 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they kind of forgot about purple eyed Targaeryans.
@RedFloyd469
@RedFloyd469 4 жыл бұрын
It's not really an essential feature, is it? We already know the Targaryens are special and magical. Adding extra superficial bits would only cost more money/resources, might get into conflict with actors, etc... Things like Tyrion's nose are more important, mainly because it adds extra darkness to his character, as his devolution is visualised by his physical degradation.
@miniroid7
@miniroid7 4 жыл бұрын
@@tsnody2001 The witcher series did a real good job with Jennifers purple eyes, though i guess it was also made about 10 years after game of thrones
@tsnody2001
@tsnody2001 4 жыл бұрын
@@miniroid7 I watch the first episode and never watched the second. And honestly I thought his eyes were a huge visual distraction from the development of the story. And the first episode is crucial for development. Just my opinion, of course.
@chrismacdonald4570
@chrismacdonald4570 3 жыл бұрын
'Endings can be tough. " Me Thinking of the GoTr series finale. YES they can George.
@JesusCheeseburger
@JesusCheeseburger 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video. Everyone gives the show crap but here they talk about why the show makes changes, endings being hard, and fans being disappointed because they've been anticipating their own idea of the story. Some people could learn from the wise words of GRRM.
@IAmAlteringTheDeal
@IAmAlteringTheDeal Жыл бұрын
Yeah except the ending of the show was rushed, because D&D were essentially tired of working on it. It wasn’t just bad, it was extremely lazy. They completely cut major plot lines from the book and butchered others, like in dorne. There’s a reason George has said he thought the show should have been 12-13 seasons. HBO didn’t want the show to end and budget was no concern once it was the biggest TV show on the planet.
@JesusCheeseburger
@JesusCheeseburger Жыл бұрын
@@IAmAlteringTheDeal GRRM is writing dozens of other stories instead of TWOW because he's essentially tired of working on it. And the Dorne plot is the most boring plot in the series. And the Brienne stuff they cut isn't much better.
@dragonlord.kingslayer8697
@dragonlord.kingslayer8697 3 жыл бұрын
1:00 i like how he casually picks his nose then flicks it
@sundarpichai940
@sundarpichai940 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard the nose thing mentioned before, but it seems like such a stupid comment. I don't think that spending time and money on doing a CGI missing nose would have improved the show. People say similar things about Targaryan purple eyes but again, editing the frames to add purple eyes would be a waste of resources.
@English_MoFo
@English_MoFo 2 жыл бұрын
"Peter was too handsome" Well said 👏 👌
@KTChamberlain
@KTChamberlain 4 жыл бұрын
This is why hand-drawn animation would do a much better service to A Song of Ice and Fire, because in animation you can get away with that, you can also reuse actors to fill various parts and get away with it. Hell, Dee Bradley Baker and Jim Cummings alone both have wide ranges of voices to name a few. True you could also animate it in 3D as well, but if nothing else, I'd rather there be a blend of the two mediums.
@kreoloskar9805
@kreoloskar9805 4 жыл бұрын
im reading again book 2 and my favorite chapter is Theon when hi meets Yara for the first time ..for me its the best chapter ..its so funny and well wrighten (sory for my English ..not my native tonge )
@bakthihapuarachchi3447
@bakthihapuarachchi3447 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great one
@amansurya7709
@amansurya7709 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get pdf of this book on internet
@juxtaposer.
@juxtaposer. 4 жыл бұрын
Doin just fine with the language buddy 😁 a few things are misspelled but let me tell you, many native English speakers struggle as well! (wrighten= written and tonge= tongue😊 )
@tomswiftyphilo2504
@tomswiftyphilo2504 4 жыл бұрын
dude you're reading A Song of Ice and Fire in a language other than your native tongue? I am incredibly impressed.
@lookingforsomething
@lookingforsomething 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend reading in English. It helps a lot :D
@TheCapefarewell
@TheCapefarewell 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone is curious, that is me asking that question in the video. I think I was first to ask a question pertaining to Game of Thrones that day haha. Thank you Aegon Targaryen for uploading this clip from the interview/seminar. Brought back some fond memories.
@CommanderBossk
@CommanderBossk 3 ай бұрын
6:44 did they just skip bros question 😂😂😂
@FunkMastaMegaFlex
@FunkMastaMegaFlex 4 жыл бұрын
Because then he would be a Michael Jackson like dwarf! Lol. That is more scary than a White Walker lol, and maybe more scary than season 8.
@xcvxcvcxvxvcq
@xcvxcvcxvxvcq 3 жыл бұрын
The two question at a time thing shows the brilliance of school administrators in organizing things.
@ShaggyThePunk
@ShaggyThePunk 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna sleep on a bed made of George's voice.
@ShaggyThePunk
@ShaggyThePunk 4 жыл бұрын
@Wiliam Forsythe perhaps
@piperar2014
@piperar2014 4 жыл бұрын
Production value is one reason. They still could have made some type of scar or disfigurement that's easier to do with makeup, if they wanted to. The other reason is that TV wants pretty characters. Book Arya is horse-faced, Massie Williams is not. Book Jon Snow is goofy and awkward, not a hunk. Book Ygritte has flaws like crooked teeth. TV Sam is still fat, but he's a good looking fat guy, not like some fat kids I went to high school with.
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 жыл бұрын
Masie Williams was a good compromise, I would say, because she not exactly conventionally pretty, as was Brienne (even though I think the actress herself is pretty hot).
@moneymayweathera
@moneymayweathera 4 жыл бұрын
The upcoming Targaryen Prequel will cost a lot
@admin.slayerenryu
@admin.slayerenryu 4 жыл бұрын
@@moneymayweathera However it's all written down so even if D&D try to screw, there's no way with GRR on the project.
@mohammedarafatlone
@mohammedarafatlone 4 жыл бұрын
Sam is a good looking fat guy And another thing It's ON TV and was #1 show(in terms of nominations and viewership at the time) you cannot have ugly leads leading a show🤷🏻‍♂️ People would troll them heavily online😐 It is what it is
@kaigreen5641
@kaigreen5641 4 жыл бұрын
Another idiot who doesnt know how film production works. They dont cast pretty actors because they are pretty, they cast whoever is best for the role from the available talent, it just happens that the vast majority of professional actors also happen to be quite attractive... it kinda goes with the territory. I am a professional musician, I know hundreds of professional actors, musicians, dancers etc and I could list the ugly ones on one hand. If you want proof, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is it. Fleur is supposed to be the most attractive girl you have ever seen, but the girl who plays her is only mildly attractive, they could have cast many french actors in the role who were much more attractive but they didnt, because it mattered more that she could actually act.
@SamTheComicMan
@SamTheComicMan 3 жыл бұрын
"I've never been an exiled princess" guy barely in frame tries so hard to hold his drink in and not laugh at 6:08
@alejandrotirado6224
@alejandrotirado6224 3 жыл бұрын
I start reading the books after the 2 books are released
@antonioenglish8732
@antonioenglish8732 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great question that got deviated by the guy in the panel into just the nose thing.
@vilentman111
@vilentman111 4 жыл бұрын
As someone just now making their way through the books, I appreciate that since viewing 1 game of thrones video, I have now got to be wary of spoiler heavy video titles clogging up my recommended
@JustSomebody5
@JustSomebody5 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Aegon, I like your videos but I think you should reconsider the titles for at least this one; George doesn't only talk about the cost of sticking to the source material he goes on with the 'write what you know' idea, and I think the title of the video should reflect that more. Example: George RR Martin on Tyrion's Nose and Writing what you know, and Favorite House words.
@claytonsavoie321
@claytonsavoie321 3 жыл бұрын
I bet one of the authors they discussed that isn’t good with endings is Stephen King, guaranteed 😂
@Klopp619
@Klopp619 3 жыл бұрын
Even Stephen King thinks Stephen King endings are bad.
@Johnnythefirst
@Johnnythefirst 4 жыл бұрын
0:10 Jon Snow DOES really know nothing. This is why he's asking audience questions.
@kieranb7747
@kieranb7747 3 жыл бұрын
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@Johnnythefirst
@Johnnythefirst 3 жыл бұрын
@@kieranb7747 The guy looked like Jon Snow. That's the joke...
@bountykilla6254
@bountykilla6254 3 жыл бұрын
:D :D :D
@Lord_Raymund
@Lord_Raymund 4 жыл бұрын
Well one good thing about this lock down is that atleast GRRM is pretty muched chained at his typewriter XD
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 жыл бұрын
And yet according to a recent update on his website he’s done a lot of work but still nowhere near done with WoW
@kevinoneil5120
@kevinoneil5120 4 жыл бұрын
Because they would have had to pull the team responsible for animating Drogon's left eyelid away to handle that effect...
@dekuuchiha9990
@dekuuchiha9990 4 жыл бұрын
That nose was the least of my concerns
@mystmuffin3600
@mystmuffin3600 4 жыл бұрын
Respect to you for still uploading. Do u have any socials?
@Mitch-nx2ic
@Mitch-nx2ic 4 жыл бұрын
Im also interested in why and how the show managed to cut off it own balls.
@beemoney217
@beemoney217 4 жыл бұрын
Lol me too
@boodyjacob9322
@boodyjacob9322 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people care so much about Tyrion's nose.. They don't have to copy the books, especially parts that could be avoided.. Tyrion getting his nose chopped off didn't make any difference for me reading the books except for his constant itching. People saw him as a monster before and after his nose was cut off.
@brauliogomez9021
@brauliogomez9021 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, obviously not a major plot point, but it is a nice addition in the novels as it shows what Tyrion's rewards are for helping those who call him monster. He only became more monstrous to those who see him rather than gaining favor for acting so valiantly.
@romeocastillo316
@romeocastillo316 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't read the books but I think the perception of Tyrion as a character would change. Peter is handsome irl, and charismatic. I understand it's quite a departure from the books. Not only the nose.
@mrmu7ammed1
@mrmu7ammed1 4 жыл бұрын
They didnt ignore the books altogether Tyrion still got a scar, anyhow I cared more about Dany and her brother's eyes color, I think it would've made them more divine, but that also would have not fixed the horrible storyline we've ended up with.
@alyfferalves593
@alyfferalves593 4 жыл бұрын
Muh. Waz. That’s true the purple eyes would have been pretty funky
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 4 жыл бұрын
There were bigger changes, Tyrion and Jaime not having a fall out. Tyrion after storm goes to really dark place. Instead show tries to portray Tyrion as a pure good guy
@Wagbag0
@Wagbag0 2 жыл бұрын
"Some very very good writers have a real problem with endings" George please don't become one of those people. On behalf of every single on of the fans of this wonderful world you made....please...
@adamdecoder1
@adamdecoder1 2 жыл бұрын
He really called out my boi Patrick Rothfuss
@maggoli67
@maggoli67 3 жыл бұрын
Finish the book, George.
@Cyberlunk
@Cyberlunk 3 жыл бұрын
Good representation of Robb Stark's kingdom at the beginning of the video. Stark sigil on the mic, and house Tully colours behind him.
@nimaiiikun
@nimaiiikun 3 жыл бұрын
tldr: originally show asked Peter Dinklage to shave off his nose before they began filming. but Peter refused because he knew it wouldnt grow back.
@DannyMorrs
@DannyMorrs 3 жыл бұрын
6:39 was that a brutal edit or did they ignore that guys question?
@What-go8ng
@What-go8ng 7 ай бұрын
"Winter is Coming" is his favorite? Well that's ironic
@maskedmarvyl4774
@maskedmarvyl4774 3 жыл бұрын
"George, I know you're not directly involved with the goings on of the show right now...." Now there is a sad foreshadowing if there ever was one......
@staticcharm3808
@staticcharm3808 3 жыл бұрын
Fatso is just spending his money and living life. He is never finishing these stupid books. Most people moved on from GoT anyway.
@twstf8905
@twstf8905 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the more obvious answers, I've seen so many people whining and complaining about the show not having a noseless Tyrion, when it's seemingly evident why it's easy to write it but clearly not going to be cost effective or practical to do in the show (I'm just sayin' ✌️)
@rigorrmortis5983
@rigorrmortis5983 4 жыл бұрын
Because they'd already blown there budget on the dragons
@moarmaan7906
@moarmaan7906 4 жыл бұрын
The direwolves cgi costs more than the dragons
@bountykilla6254
@bountykilla6254 3 жыл бұрын
I never read. Im not accustomed to it. And find it very boring. But I've read those books two times already. Could someone recommend something similar?
@TheDonovanMcCormick
@TheDonovanMcCormick 3 жыл бұрын
Best house words go to the Greyjoys: We do not sew. House Martell close second: unbent, unbowed, unbroken
@LJFN213
@LJFN213 3 жыл бұрын
Its because the show cut off its own nose in spite of its face
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen 3 жыл бұрын
Tyrion better not plan behind my back and betray me in the books. 🔥🔥🔥
@fieldy409
@fieldy409 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrions nose is one thing but the physical transformation that Reek/Theon goes through during his imprisonment and torture. He basically ends up looking like a mutilated Holocaust survivor, looking like an old man before his time, no teeth, grey hair, not many fingers....
@arthropod-doctor
@arthropod-doctor Ай бұрын
This is among the adaptational changes I don't mind at all. While Tyrion in the books is meant to be quite unsightly, Peter Dinklage is actually rather handsome. I think it lends credence to Tyrion's added charisma. And frankly, it's hard for me to imagine anyone else as the character.
@rfun17
@rfun17 4 жыл бұрын
During quarantine I binge watched GOT. Now that it’s over I’m still wanting more! Was thinking of either rewatching or maybe reading the books. Is there an order to reading them bc I saw online so many variations?
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 жыл бұрын
Reading the books in the order they were written is usually the best way to go
@Bat0541
@Bat0541 4 жыл бұрын
I mean there's a problem with how good looking Dinklage is in general.
@staticcharm3808
@staticcharm3808 3 жыл бұрын
@Anjelica Snorcket Um what? All the actors were more handsome than in the books. That is called TV and movies. No one wants to look at ugly people on TV. There are very few dwarf actors in Hollywood. And almost none are as skilled as Peter Dinklage. He was born to play Tyrion. He was the only one to cast unless you wanted them to digitally shrink someone like they did in the LotRs and Hobbit which would have cost a fortune.
@maliziosoeperverso1697
@maliziosoeperverso1697 2 жыл бұрын
He kinda dodged the question. He didn't ask about Tyrion's nose, it was just the guy next to George joking about it and for some reason George decided to talk about that and only that
@danielbeaney4407
@danielbeaney4407 4 жыл бұрын
Well now that he's had a month or 2 with out being able to go anyway where im sure the books will be closer to being finished. I hope.
@derrevolutor6347
@derrevolutor6347 4 жыл бұрын
hope he dont die before the last book is finished...
@mayjailerxx
@mayjailerxx 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve been waiting for years 😭
@karjeezus6490
@karjeezus6490 4 жыл бұрын
Raskolnikov if he gets covid he’s done for
@karjeezus6490
@karjeezus6490 4 жыл бұрын
fo exipni if he gets covid he’s done for
@karjeezus6490
@karjeezus6490 4 жыл бұрын
Claudia Ngwena if he gets covid he’s done for
@karjeezus6490
@karjeezus6490 4 жыл бұрын
if he gets covid he’s done for
@adondelgado392
@adondelgado392 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 500+ pages into the first book. Robert Arryn being changed to Robin, the omission of Blackfish and the way Ned's leg gets injured in the confrontation with Jaime are some of the only changes I've noticed from the adaptation. Nothing too crazy. Why couldn't they keep doing that?
@owenkaleda8509
@owenkaleda8509 2 жыл бұрын
What? Blackfish was in the show
@SorceressWitch
@SorceressWitch Жыл бұрын
@@owenkaleda8509 They mean Blackfish was in the first book which season one is based on. Blackfish in the show appears in season 3 which is the time of the third book. In the books we are introduced to him when Catelyn arrives at the Vale of Arryn to bring Tyrion as a prisoner. He was serving as knight at the gate but will leave and join Catelyn then meets Robb and fights for him. He was not happy with his niece not sending soldiers to help fight the war and resigned. Roose Bolton in the show only appears in season 2 while he is in the first book and leads a large part of Robb's army against Tywin at the battle of the green fork. Robb leads the rest at the battle of whispering wood. In the show this is different, Robb in the show sends 2000 men to be sacrificed against Tywin at the battle of green fork. While he leads the 18,000 others against Jaime at whispering wood. Jaime has a larger force than in the books. The 2000 sent against Tywin never had a named commander so we don't know who lead them. In the books Roose Bolton had been given most of the army against Tywin and lost 5000 men against Tywin in the battle of green fork but the rest survived in retreat. Robb lead around 6000 men to capture Jaime at the battle of whispering wood. The books and show have differences though the show went past the books as the books are unfinished and so the seasons 6, 7, 8 have much bigger changes. The changes in earlier seasons weren't as much of a big deal compared to later, which is why people noticed the writing getting worse but still not a good series. Even though I prefer books, I can't say many fantasy shows have been able to top GOT show. They made blunders after season 4 but still did a good job for a TV series.
@felisasininus1784
@felisasininus1784 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot more changes in the adaptation of the first book. A cr*p-ton of characters were cut for example. Then what would eventually happen is basically butterfly effect, where relatively small changes in first season will lead to enormous differences in later seasons. That is what happened with the HBO adaptation, and that was all before everything went to s***.
@bohemiancasanova5538
@bohemiancasanova5538 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody knows why he didnt answer the question at 6:40?
@joes1755
@joes1755 3 жыл бұрын
8:35
@jacksparrow9227
@jacksparrow9227 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I just want to know why they can't release the unaired pilot and what would have happened with the 5 year gap and if it would be different than what would happen 5 years since the start of the series or if it will be different than 5 years after whatever book it was.
@takb.
@takb. Жыл бұрын
6:51 why did they do homie like that wtf 🤣
@alexx3914
@alexx3914 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if they made the show just like the books.
@professorhazard
@professorhazard Жыл бұрын
So they just fully ignore the dude at 6:40 ? Kinda weird
@professorhazard
@professorhazard Жыл бұрын
ope never mind, he goes back to him at 8:40
@GenMathis74
@GenMathis74 4 жыл бұрын
Dnd could have used the money they saved by refusing to do seasons 9, 10, and 11 to fund the cgi but hey, they must have forgot
@jpetersgoyanks
@jpetersgoyanks 2 жыл бұрын
2:35 for me, this is much of what I feel about the GoT season 8 complainers and to a lesser extent those who mean to nag Mr. Martin over finishing the books faster. I love GoT, I love ASoI&F… do your thang George!
@TD-lh9ph
@TD-lh9ph 2 жыл бұрын
why are they asking 2 questions at a time, doesn't seem like it would make it any faster than just going left, right, left, right...
@faisalmemon285
@faisalmemon285 9 ай бұрын
Man, if they made the Targeryan eyes purple that would’ve looked really silly. Everyone should see Dune (1984) to understand that if they follow the book too closely it will end up looking quite stupid. Some things just have to be left out.
@kaigreen5641
@kaigreen5641 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrions nose is a perfect example of why a lot of idiots on youtube who think they could do a better job of making a TV show than the pros simply dont understand how film production works. Ive seen so many videos that are basically "Here is how it should have been done" that simply ignore the fact that reality and money limit what can be done on screen. I constantly want to say to those idiots "but where are you getting the budget from?" And "do you know how long that would take to film?". Its clear the vast majority have never worked in the entertainment industry, let alone ever been on a real film or TV set.
@gabberhenk497
@gabberhenk497 4 жыл бұрын
Dude no one is hating on the production but on the horrible writing
@theM4R4T
@theM4R4T 4 жыл бұрын
You're so wrong. All of the issues people have with the show are about consistency, plotholes, bad dialogue, bad pacing, dumb and empty characters, poorly conceived plottwists, lack of consequences, lack of meaning, abandonment of themes, disrespectful treatment of book lore, killing off characters and plotlines they themselves decided to include in earlier seasons. Things that could had been solved with a better script. It wouldn't require more sets, props or battles. (Well, actually HBO offered them more seasons, so even if the show required 3 more seasons your argument is still incorrect). D&D actually wasted budget on unnecessary things like zombie polar bear, Arya/Brienne fight scene, Loot train and Casterly Rock battles that have 0 consequences. In season 1 - 4 they had smaller budgets yet these seasons are much better.
@KneelB4Bacon
@KneelB4Bacon 4 жыл бұрын
The makeup on "Game of Thrones" didn't ruin the show. The Season 7-8 writing did.
@robp4711
@robp4711 4 жыл бұрын
And you know all this from your vast experiences?
@Asterix958
@Asterix958 4 жыл бұрын
​@@KneelB4Bacon Actually I think most ridiculous thing in the show is that going North of the Wall for capturing a zombie. It is already stated that everyone who die in North of the Wall become a zombie. They don't need to risk their life for capturing a zombie. Just take a person will be executed and execute him North of Wall. Season 7 is as terrible as season 8 but no one oppose this. Actually viewers spawned season 8 garbage by not reacting season 7.
@ihaveacar
@ihaveacar 4 жыл бұрын
The nose wasn't really a problem it was more how good looking in general Peter Dinklage is. Tyrion is supposed to look grotesque not like a hot older short dude.
@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289
@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not bothered by Tyrion/Peter's nose being sliced off, I'm more weirded out by his hair not being blonde in the show, or that he doesn't have his green and black eyes. I wanted to see his dual colored eyes, it was his best feature.
@suburbanindie
@suburbanindie 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of Q&A is this? Two questions at a time? Answers the second, then he forgets the first one?
@BledaRassmar
@BledaRassmar 4 жыл бұрын
George R. R. Martin looks like Grumpy Cat
@elymX
@elymX 4 жыл бұрын
Just finish the damn book George
@MrPtrlix
@MrPtrlix 4 жыл бұрын
I bet they were talking about JJ Abrams
@andrewmurphy4133
@andrewmurphy4133 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure who the guy on the left is but is that Hesh from the sopranos
@_arpheus
@_arpheus 3 жыл бұрын
The show didn't cut Tyrion's nose bcoz Peter Dinklage needed it
@faisalmemon285
@faisalmemon285 9 ай бұрын
Why didn’t anyone ask him if it was his idea that Arya kills the Night King??
@colinmacvicar2507
@colinmacvicar2507 2 жыл бұрын
When he says he’s not naming names talking about some writers that have problems with endings I bet he’s talking about Stephen King.
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 жыл бұрын
3:30 I’m naming names: Stephen King screwed the pooch on ending his Dark Tower series
@damnunicorn4562
@damnunicorn4562 3 жыл бұрын
After getting hit by a drunk driver I think he decided to finish the series no matter what. I also think the series would have been different if he had of just kept writing it in the same way he had been. Even still, I did enjoy the way it ended
@matthewbishop8395
@matthewbishop8395 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree like it or not the ending fits perfectly
@mac2312
@mac2312 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how Tyrion would've been treated on screen if they got rid of his nose
@wtk6069
@wtk6069 4 жыл бұрын
That tiny bit of CGI couldn't have been as hard to do as a dragon. Maybe they were just scared off by the infamous Cavell mustache removed in Justice League?
@stupidhandles
@stupidhandles 4 жыл бұрын
@fo exipni exactly, removing tyrions nose would have resulted in less (probably no) direwolves, probably less dragons too
@wiperiser1
@wiperiser1 4 жыл бұрын
"Why the show ddint cut off the nose" for ten-fucking-minutes!
@ShuckleLord
@ShuckleLord 4 жыл бұрын
Dinklage is a good lookin guy I’m glad they didn’t mess up his face
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 жыл бұрын
Great actor poor representation of his book character
@greghunter6951
@greghunter6951 Жыл бұрын
Nose, no nose, Peter Dinklage was awesome as Tyrion.
@nathanaelheil2818
@nathanaelheil2818 3 жыл бұрын
As someone that wants to be a writer I've been able to take a lot from this man. Honestly he's like our generation's Tolkien.
@xvoidgamer
@xvoidgamer 3 жыл бұрын
Tolkien is our generation's Tolkien.... On the creative level GRRM is a little kid compared with Tolkien.
@15r52
@15r52 3 жыл бұрын
@@xvoidgamer nah Tolkien is great and the world building is goat, but George knows how to write actual human beings i much prefer realistic characters than the black and white religious ideals of Tolkien.
@hughjass8853
@hughjass8853 3 жыл бұрын
@@15r52 Prefer Robert Jordan honestly, great mix of amazing characters and world building
@orebrigham3333
@orebrigham3333 4 жыл бұрын
Bad news: CV19 Pandemic.... Good news: GRRM is quarantined at home writing.
@vekkdrums
@vekkdrums 3 жыл бұрын
he'll never finish them. i think he lost interest or something
@staticcharm3808
@staticcharm3808 3 жыл бұрын
And a year later and still nothing. People just have to accept he stopped caring about GoT a long time ago
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