For all those asking how to do this while flying, remember, this is an excerpt from their ground school course. It teaches the concept of holding pattern entries in a manner appropriate to understanding them and how to determine the appropriate entry while sitting in a testing center taking a written test. Once the concept is understood, there are easy, quick methods for determining proper entries using the instruments in the cockpit while in flight that don't involve drawing. With practice, those techniques become second nature in flight, but are difficult to use without the instruments in front of you: thus, drawing the hold for the written exam.
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Thanks.
@kbuss102 жыл бұрын
is someone cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldnt be flying...
@TheFlyingZulu2 жыл бұрын
@@kbuss10 With regards to learning something or concept visualization, everybody's brain operates somewhat differently. With practice or repetition a person may or may not be able to "visualize" this in their head. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be flying because they could easily use other means to determine a holding pattern entry. If you're a DPE and fail checkrides on the basis of if they "cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldn't flying" let me know where you're based out of... I'll do my instrument checkride somewhere else!
@kbuss102 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingZulu Bro I'm a sim "pilot" on VATSIM. sadly in our country not many people can afford to fly GA for example. I'm an architect reasonably good with geometry that's okay but what I say is in the air there can be so many distractions if someone doesn't get this easily then it will be much harder in the air. but I know there is this concept in USA that basically everyone is fit to be a pilot I completely disagree with this. for example I know I would be fit to fly by myself but I wouldn't consider myself good enough to fly other people My family or paying passengers. when I think of a pilot I think of Rich from flying with rich for example
@TheFlyingZulu2 жыл бұрын
@@kbuss10 Ahahaha you're not even a pilot telling people they can't be pilots because such and such. Stop. Just stop.
@stevef3 жыл бұрын
Martha is a legend. She makes all of this understandable.
@ViperDriver223 жыл бұрын
I still love watching them, very funny and knowledgeable. Miss these folks.
@lumurumba3 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@kCI2512 жыл бұрын
Martha Lunken is a legendary bridge inspector, lol.
@johnhasson48272 жыл бұрын
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@johnhasson48272 жыл бұрын
@@kCI251 u
@billmastorakis21372 жыл бұрын
Martha is a national treasure.
@ZonsoAvalune2 жыл бұрын
EXTREMELY based video. This is the best way I've heard it explained.
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tomrohan84805 жыл бұрын
She is Bob Ross of aviation
@bayouflier66413 жыл бұрын
very funny. Miss ol Bob
@jreg897 ай бұрын
Actually, she is not
@theconcorden5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching John and Martha's videos since I started my Private Pilot Cert in 1997 and I love them! They are so knowledgeable, funny and easy going. I wish I could meet them one day!
@christopherhand48364 жыл бұрын
A G San Diego is where you need to go
@AT5023 жыл бұрын
I did an instrument course through them in 1987 and have also been watching them throughout the years ... they're ageless!
@stuartw969 Жыл бұрын
20 years ago your wonderful book helped me through my FAA IR. Now my 19 year old daughter is an avidly keen student of your videos. Congratulations and thank you!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@stuartw969 Жыл бұрын
20 years ago you books helped through my FAA IR course. Now my 19 year old daughter is inspired by your wonderful videos. Thank you so much!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@GeorgeRon Жыл бұрын
Wow, takes a little bit of getting used to. I'm self-teaching holding patterns at the moment, glad I found this video right away as a start.
@Mcphaterson2 жыл бұрын
John and Martha = the OGs of aviation education!
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
;)
@keithdmello2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I remember watching King schools back in the day.
@joelmulder7 ай бұрын
This was difficult, until I saw it explained here visually. When you did the example with the victor airway, I worked it out and got it correct before you worked through it on my first try. When something just clicks like that, it’s the best feeling in the world! Fantastic explanation of how to do this on paper, thank you!
@KingSchools7 ай бұрын
So glad to hear it has clicked for you! It does feel good.
@paulmoore76354 жыл бұрын
This wonderful lady finally made me understand holding pattern entries! Thank you !
@KingSchools4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@olivialeakidd4 жыл бұрын
I love her energy thank you queen
@thatweldingguy556 Жыл бұрын
Such a difficult time remembering this. This explanation is absolutely spot on. I fully grasp and understand hold entries now. I feel guilty I learned this on KZbin. Thank you so much!!!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@Biggles24983 жыл бұрын
I wish I had known this 30 years ago doing my CAA Instrument Rating As Martha makes it so simple ! I think this Special Lady is (or was John I think) the Wife of a Great Instructor who made loads of videos FAA based and turned complicated crosswind landings into a "Sport" without all the BS in the Books. I bought every tape back then from the USA and even my CAA Examiner said my Performance in the air was drastically improved from average simply by watching the videos religiously !
@patrickwilliams25543 жыл бұрын
Miss your a champion , please do not stop uploading! I love all your videos.
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@francescocandian27083 жыл бұрын
Martha you're simply the best. Honestly!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@Dogface19843 жыл бұрын
Martha helped get me a PPL with instrument rating. You a real one for that Martha!
@petervad3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why KZbin suggested this video to me; I know nothing about flying. But I found it fascinating and was glued to the end!
@ttmich4 жыл бұрын
I have watched many training videos and Kings is the best. She is clearly an excellent instructor: speak clearly, easy to understand and make it easy to remember. My school requires me to study the videos posted on KZbin and I dislike them so much: the instructors are very much reading out from the text book at the normal speaking speeds. The instructor also gave the VOR Holding instruction like the ATC, but at much faster speed that I usually hear the real ATC giving instructions. In studying from the reading materials, you need to read slowly the IFR lessons, or any technical lessons, highlight sentences and digesting the ideas. Teaching IFR by reading out the writing materials for students is a bad teaching method. Stick with the Kings training because they are the best. I got the DVD training from them!
@fly4fun242 ай бұрын
I learned how to fly with you and your team in 2003. and I still watch your videos to this day.
@KingSchools2 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking in!
@Death_by_Inches4 жыл бұрын
Holy hell you made it so much easier.
@pfsantos0074 жыл бұрын
Here cuz of FS2004. Practicing pattern entries in the lessons. Love you guys.
@garysgroundschool47393 жыл бұрын
Lady bob ross really just helped me learn holding patterns for good. God bless
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
"Lady Bob Ross" - Amazing
@ahmadtheaviationlover19373 жыл бұрын
@@KingSchools your explanations are just amazing!! Thanks you so much
@multibucker3 жыл бұрын
I like Martha.
@charlesthomas11598 ай бұрын
HOORAY ! FOR JOHN AND MARTHA KING .
@corbensumner3720Ай бұрын
This is an excellent video with a very concise explanation of the topic. I will be recommending this to fellow IFR students.
@KingSchoolsАй бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
@AwesomeAngryBikerАй бұрын
Stop bragging 🙄
@terryanderson73165 жыл бұрын
Terrific presentation and simplified well. I enjoyed it, thank you!
@kflightdispatcher3 жыл бұрын
She seems like the grandma. So appreciate your wonderful straitforward explanation.!
@Tom-mu7zy3 жыл бұрын
She has a very good presentation. Now lets translate this into the cockpit. I use my gyro compass as my chalkboard. In my compass picture I am always coming from the bottom of the compass towards the top and I imagine the holding fix in the middle of the compass card. Understand, I am always coming up from the bottom and the holding pattern rotates around the compass card. For example, you are northbound to the fix. 360 is the top of my picture. The hold is given as, "Hold NE on the 030 radial of ABC VOR, right turns." Find the 030 in the upper right of the compass card and finger or pencil point a line from the 030 in toward the center of the card. That is my navigation inbound leg (210 inbound). Now having fingered to the center where we imagine the VOR to be, make a right (CLOCKWISE) 180 degree turn, and go out towards the edge of the compass card parallel to the inbound leg. The hold is above the navigation leg so you are going to be flying into the holding side of the navigation leg when you cross the VOR. It looks like you have a perfect teardrop entry. If you can see this on the compass card you are already oriented for the problem. If the turns were left turns, your finger would have gone counter clockwise at the fix and outbound would now be below the line. Looks like you are heading towards the non holding side as you cross the VOR. This would require an immediate right turn to parallel the inbound leg and fly 030 then a right turn back to the fix for a parallel entry. Remember you are always flying up from the bottom of your compass card. The holding pattern rotates around the card. And if you can finger it, you can fly it. When my students can talk me through 6 different holds on a printed compass card at the briefing table in less than a minute, it was time to go fly. 20,000 TT 5000 CFII
@Pushyhog11 ай бұрын
l walked by hanger one day at montgomery and wavied at both of ya! thanks for the years.
@KingSchools9 ай бұрын
Rock on!
@harveydent75593 жыл бұрын
This probably the best explanation. I like the pencil technique and remembering 70 degrees is simple, thx!
@hocinebouzina44762 жыл бұрын
Super easy, with a Super Teacher, Thanks.
@FTroop37F3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to watch it again but I think I have a far better handle on this now. Thank you
@indigoairlines7912 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...Martha Mam....you are great
@MrMrsernie3 жыл бұрын
I also purchased the King's school garmin 1000 training module. It's terrific!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you like it.
@poly_hexamethyl2 жыл бұрын
I really like her explanations. Very helpful, thanks!
@paulb51253 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorials and I am learning so much from you. when you said super easy I spit my coffee out and I love it!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! (Clean up on aisle 5..)
@FWDSlip4 жыл бұрын
Regretting why I purchased the Sporty's Instrument, disaster! Great video, I'm going to remember this forever!
@Cheickstar0014 жыл бұрын
Subscribed immediately after the second video. You explain so well. Thank you very much
@famamaes Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, awesome as always! Thanks for sharing!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@hakanmertakyüz6 ай бұрын
Pure presentatıon. Thank you 🎉
@fernyfloresdrummer35683 жыл бұрын
Recomended!! They dont care as long as you do not put your air plane in the middle of traffic
@Leonardo_davinci_5 жыл бұрын
Oh my Gosh amazing ! I had her as my Virtual Flight Instructor in Microsoft Flight Simulator 😄😄😢😍
@redglazedeyez66524 жыл бұрын
How did you do that
@holobolo16613 жыл бұрын
@@redglazedeyez6652 FS2002 I think, it was included by default
@ravenmorillo43443 жыл бұрын
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@xcifer3 жыл бұрын
The kind of grandma we all want!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
:)
@joergwiesmann42612 жыл бұрын
....very nice !!! thank You very much !! Kinde regards from Switzerland !!
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@raphaelrico15842 жыл бұрын
Thank you and God Bless 🙏😇
@baliharsingh23152 жыл бұрын
Good job
@garytafoya88592 жыл бұрын
I found my soul in here!!!!! 👍🤗
@VidsPhone Жыл бұрын
As a non-ifr pilot I am assuming this is a little more complex for high speed aircraft. One minute of flight in a Cessna 172 is a world away from a minute of flight in a Learjet.
@skyguysd6674 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you!!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mr26462 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. Thx
@aviatortrevor2 жыл бұрын
My rule is: 1) If it looks direct, it is direct. Otherwise... 2) When I cross the fix, am I leaving the fix into the protected area or away from the protected area? If it's into the protected area, it's a teardrop. If it's away from the protected side, it's a parallel.
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Nice rule, makes it simple.
@rotass4442 жыл бұрын
Great teacher
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@reneneckin42813 жыл бұрын
She's great! Thank you, ma'am!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@hykuzo3 жыл бұрын
Lady you are fire! Best joke of the video was that my tears are little, after G-nav (EASA) i can say that they are not...
@paulmcphie15965 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia the sector entries are printed on individual APP plate.
@rondon98974 жыл бұрын
Genius why they don’t do that everywhere I do not know
@bernardgagnon61103 жыл бұрын
I remember stressing about this when I did my multi ifr flight test back in the 90’s
@drangpojken3 жыл бұрын
As a A330 pilot this impresses me :)
@troyemmett33823 жыл бұрын
That is huge! I heard there were only three buttons and one switch on the 330's.. She is good!
@drangpojken3 жыл бұрын
Troy Emmett very true .. take off , coffee and land botton.. so easy
@pilotactor7774 жыл бұрын
she rocks!!!
@Cys624 жыл бұрын
Piece of cake... yeah .... right... It took me quite sometime, to figure out exactly what she meant... after watching several other videos. Great video though, and thank you..
@AyushGupta-ki6pg2 ай бұрын
nicely explained❤
@KingSchools2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@aviationobsession7773 жыл бұрын
Very useful instructional video about holding pattern 😊
@djdalite4 жыл бұрын
Tear drop entry on standard turns: 30 degree angle to your outbound leg giving you 060 on your heading when you hit the fix, if you did from inbound you would turn to a heading of 240. I think shes thinking of a non standard hold
@Mikinct3 жыл бұрын
If one hits the Fix at a 30 degree angle to the Outbound leg which would be 090 degrees- yes it would be a heading of 060 degrees. After flying that heading for 1 minute you make a right hand turn using your Turn Coordinator until you arrive at your inbound on a 270 degree heading towards the fix. You'll notice your VOR localizer confirming you're now back on the 270 inbound to fix.
@leslyrodriguez58623 жыл бұрын
Gracias, lo hace muy fácil a la hora de vuelo!
@ace-kn1mw3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, super easy. Bravo
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@nizarhefnawi63532 жыл бұрын
youre awesome, thank youuuu
@philipstubbs73993 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! You have helped me understand this so much better
@sirrevzalot4 жыл бұрын
I seriously LOLed at the lawyer comment 😄 The eyes said there was a story behind that. Too funny 😂👍
@alexboyce2547 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant delivery! Now I]'ve got that for good. Thank you so much!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@vogahl346 ай бұрын
Awesome lady!! Thanks
@KingSchools6 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@a320nick Жыл бұрын
Hi Martha!
@tanayag89972 жыл бұрын
Very well explained 👍🏻
@Kilgurt2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!😀
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@Violinist_PL4 күн бұрын
What messes my mind is why the teardrop entry couldn't be erased and replaced with a parallel entry so it would make life easier for pilots as there would be just 2 types of entry into a holding? If you look at the teardrop entry, there would be just a small right turn that would match the parallel entry basically instantly after the fix and that would make life much easier :D I would be grateful for more info regarding the reason for the teardrop entry as I find it unnecessary and confusing at this moment while having just two standard entries - Direct and Parallel would make the deal too? :)
@AlekseySudakov3 жыл бұрын
Go Martha!
@castellopattimura6824 жыл бұрын
This helps me a lot, thank you guys i hope you guys have a great health
@19ij3 жыл бұрын
Thank you granny.
@kennedyrogers3644 жыл бұрын
This helps so much!
@joecritch1433 жыл бұрын
Ya the lawyer comment too funny. A safety inspector told me once “you keep on talking and i’ll keep on writing” lol
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious! Good to keep in mind.
@Invisible_Socks3 жыл бұрын
Great content
@Arturmazzini233 жыл бұрын
muito bom vídeo uma aula descomplicada!!
@samimaghrabi12475 жыл бұрын
Super easy, it only took 13 minutes to explain
@whatsyournameson72084 жыл бұрын
🤯
@josesantosBRL3 жыл бұрын
Essa velha é um barato! Gostei!
@sirjosefofhessen4527 Жыл бұрын
I'm studying for my private pilot and I can see how this would apply vfr and ifr approach
@thisbishawesome5 жыл бұрын
hey martha at 3:23 u stated that the (red) line we drew is to the left. but we swung our pencil to the right so i thought the line is to the right of the inbound leg
@exodeus79592 жыл бұрын
No plane, no license, no idea how I got here. But like the videos. Thanks.
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aircityboutique4 жыл бұрын
good day , on the teardrop you must fly a 1 MINUTE level and then intercept the inbound. soryy . from colombia . south america.
@dannylee55884 жыл бұрын
I have a question... ATC gives the instructions as you described. Now I'm supposed to take out a pencil and start figuring out what to do next all while traveling 100 plus mph. If I'm looking down all this time isn't that fixation?
@analogman96974 жыл бұрын
Wondered that myself...
@rnordquest3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of IFR flying. Some pilots do it at 200 mph. You’d better be quick. There are other techniques to do this in a few seconds. Practice makes better so get better and have fun.
@Jackjackattackboi3 жыл бұрын
The thumb method in my opinion would be best in the cockpit.
@markprange43863 жыл бұрын
The course or heading over the fix is up to the pilot.
@khalidsaeed39092 жыл бұрын
بارك الله فيك..
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@GrumpyOldMan92 ай бұрын
@GrumpyOldMan9 1 second ago "Folks" is derived from the Dutch "volks", which means "related to common people"