Get Up to 60% of Your MONEY BACK from Steam Games!

[@bredman86]

Like I know this is legit, but it seems shady af. Like this predatory law firm is any better? 40%?! Everyone hates when game companies try to have their own launchers. While I’m not saying steam is a saint, it definitely feels the lesser of two evils compared to say EA, Ubisoft etc.

[@realsupercobble]

There is so little info on this I feel it is fake. I went to the “official” website and it is shady af. And if this really was real, why isn’t EVERYONE talking about this? It just doesn’t add up.

[@selectionn]

@@realsupercobble because the payouts are usually really small (few hundred dollars if you spent around 1000 in past 4 years), you have to seek out the arbitration yourself, and only ~2 companies are offering these arbitrations publicly, it also takes a long time too apparently. The company also takes around 40% too. I was sus of it at first too, but its legit, the one company has 30 years of experience in mass arbitrations

[@bloxer9563]

@@realsupercobble it's real bozo

[@JESSEQUEST]

@super cobble Not sure what site you went to, but they're a real law firm in D.C. practicing in class action lawsuits. Their ratings and their site are real. I'm going with the other person saying it's just not getting enough press. Probably because so many people aren't doing their research and then just saying, "it's probably fake" deterring people from what's lawfully due to them.

[@lafayetteplace3031]

I like steam. honestly the past is the past. i like the service and don't want this to become a huge thing so then valve gets pissed off and gives us a barebones launcher as a FUCK YOU to the customer base, us! i dont like this lawsuit idea. every other launcher is for tweens LOL. steam is the ONLY UI that makes sense.

[@saintzachariah2319]

There's no way steam has a monopoly. It's just the best launcher available. Every game company is free to make their own, but they're incompetent. I can't think of one online games store/launcher that is even half as good as steam.

[@calebchase2119]

youre just describing a monopoly

[@saintzachariah2319]

@Caleb Chase No, a monopoly is exclusive trade of a commodity. Steam doesn't own all the games on the market. You're not forced to use it.

[@mgw5377]

@@calebchase2119 i dont think you know what a monopoly is bud

[@calebchase2119]

@@mgw5377 yeah it's not like a judge ruled steam in violation of antitrust laws or anything 😂 swear people don't even watch the videos they comment under

[@dashikashi4734]

@@calebchase2119 US judges ruled that tomatoes are vegetables.

[@Cryght_Vaskallion]

i love steam.. even if its "hey free money from steam" to me as a faithful person who has played using steam for years.. this just feels wrong to stab them in the back.. the lil bit of extra money if that that they get from us.. can be viewed as money to support steam itself.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

I don't love Steam (TBH I miss the days when I could get PC games on CD) but they seem quite fair in terms of price/service provided compared to the digital stores on consoles. Heck, those are actual monopolies! On PC there's also GoG, Microsoft Store, Epic Games, think even EA and Ubisoft have their own storefronts, though I haven't looked cause I hate them both.

[@Toodream]

​@@scottthewaterwarrior that's a good point! On pc we have other markets but on console there's only ONE, which sounds way more like a monopoly/antitrust situation than steam does.

[@michaelr5835]

Idgaf about the money, Steam has always been amazing to me. Picked up so many games for pennies on the dollar basically

[@agentrexx]

why love a platform that has used very predatory practises to kill indie games. a 30% commission rate on all sales is fucking insane compared to other industries like this. This forces the game devs to increase the price to maintain theyre profits thus forcing you to have ot pay the comission rate.

[@brassandcopper3196]

Wish they would get sued into the dirt.

[@SynnekoNya]

I'm okay with Valve having my money, they've provided help and convenience when I've needed, when I had to deal with hardware from them, like the Index, if it ever messed up like the controllers, they would easily have me covered, I buy off steam because I want to, no one forced me, I just love steam, they aren't a monopoly, just the only company who can make a good platform on PC and actually interact with their community alot. ❤

[@sharkbear123]

just wait til ur account gets hacked and there's no steam support to help you recover it...

[@SynnekoNya]

@@sharkbear123 already happened once... I hate admitting it because it was my dumba$$ fault ngl... 😮‍💨

[@sharkbear123]

@@SynnekoNya same here, my dumbass got it hijacked and there was no steam support to help me get it back

[@Glf20x]

you bought off steam for your formative years because they had the best prices (GEE I WONDER WHY?) and are now emotionally attached to a BRAND.

[@NeoAutodroid]

corporate simping is so cringe 😬

[@BongSwansong]

Steam is likely the most consumer/customer friendly platform for PC gaming. This feels kinda scummy.

[@agentrexx]

they really aren't your just happy you are getting a deal without thinking how they got the game companies to agree to the deals.

[@BongSwansong]

@@agentrexx "Consumer/Customer friendly Platform." Nowhere did I claim they were company friendly. I care about companies about as much as they care about me. Which is all monetarily based. So dont sit there and cry about "Woe is the poor company."

[@KXNG_BXNZ]

Steam is the only monopoly I will ever support

[@Wild4]

Ha ha ha true that 😋

[@SirBrucie]

I'd rather burn my money

[@Wild4]

Just donate it to me - I will cherish it 😁

[@jamstheshapeshifter]

​@@Wild4You ain't deserve shit

[@oltsu1234]

Along with VR 😊

[@jackorlove4055]

At least Steam has great deals and is a great platform... If any platform should get with an antitrust suit it's Sony's playstation store. The prices on there are criminal.

[@kiato_meu880]

doesnt playstation have deals all the time

[@TRONiX404]

Steam also steals your data selling to the highest bidder. Also steam do not enforce quality assurance as a retailer of their products sold and takes the highest CUT of them all 30%. Steam platform is trash it's the most performance heavy launcher out there atlwast 12 background processes. It's bloated with adds completely unnecessary to just Launch a Game.

[@nicholasbutler2365]

This is such bs. Steam doesn’t do exclusivity deals and you can buy games lots of other places. You can’t sue a company for being successful

[@FunkeymonkeyTTR]

not only is this a really dumb lawsuit but you might wanna read section 11 of the Steam Subscriber Agreement before putting your name on this joke

[@JESSEQUEST]

Arbitration agreements are what Blizzard and Bobby are trying to use to paint abused workers into a corner to get them so they can't talk, and you can see how well that worked for them. Also, if judges can overturn laws due to specific cases, I'm pretty sure they have the capability to overturn section 11 on some insanely rich company's contract you make with them. It's one of the reasons why judges as they are now are around and have that power.

[@lafayetteplace3031]

steam is my favorite launcher. the battle net launcher is EMPTY and the other launchers feel like social media apps. steam is cool cause its all dark and techy loaded with features.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

@@lafayetteplace3031 My favorite is GoG, no launcher required, just direct download of the installer to my hard drive! Actually my favorite is installing off a CD, but that's kinda dead on PC these days...

[@CM-iz5ny]

​@@scottthewaterwarrior pointless comment. We're talking about launchers here not retailers.

[@SoultalkOG]

must be a rep, theres no downside

[@Chronor007]

Just NA residents... *Crying in EU*

[@Wild4]

The law office here only reps US clients You might have your own in your own country... Double Check with a quick google search. Hope that helps.

[@SnappySnapfire]

Read the print if they recover money for you they take 40%

[@PikaPower131313]

Not Canada

[@mariusbleek]

​@@PikaPower131313Zaiger LLC represents Canadians (as long as you're not a resident of Quebec)

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

I'm not understanding this. I get cheap games all the time on steam. They are constantly running sales. I never pay full price for a game.

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

Steam offered me value and great customer service, if i was using other store i doubt that i would have as much games as i have right now. They're the first company willing to let fans remake their games without suing, they're the first to update their games with levels and characters made by the community. Steam is a company that embraces open source. All these lawsuit stems from big corporations not being able to monopolize they're awful service because there's other options available. These shareholder owned companies has proven us countless time that all they care about is money and not actually providing a good service.

[@thebeluvdtrex]

Valve*

[@brassandcopper3196]

Valve and "good service" shouldn't be in the same sentence.

[@VoxLightGaming]

Nintendo is more of a Monopoly than Valve, change my mind.

[@Wild4]

This comment gets the Nintendo Seal of Approval 🔥

[@scubasausage]

No one disagrees with you. But that doesnt mean that what Valve is doing is ok.

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

​@@scubasausagehow dare they operate a completely optional storefront that no one is being forced to use as a buyer or seller

[@scubasausage]

@@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD You dont understand. Its not about the buyers its about the sellers. If you are a game developer/puiblisher you need your game on steam if you want to get big sales and steam charge 30%. You could sell your game on Epic only and pay lower rates but Epic has a tiny fraction of the market compared to Steam, most PC gamers would not have the opportunity to buy the game if its not on Steam. In other words, if you want to sell to the vast majority of PC gamers, you have no choice but to give Valve 30% of the revenue you would generate.

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

@@scubasausage then they should just choose to get smaller sales. Also sellers aren't what this mass arbitration is about.

[@murkypuddle33]

UPDATE AS OF 3/19/24 Mason LLP has just made their first demand. Steam can either counter or settle, most likely they'll counter and this will go on for a bit, and possibly end up in court.

[@SuperSimpleSam]

Good! they deserve it. They protect hackers and scammers more than their honest paying customers

[@bingchilling3914]

Steam is the absolute best when it comes to buying games. They have a new sale every day, and unlike most stores their sales go above 15% off. You can buy a AAA game for $15 about a month after launch. That's pretty damn consumer friendly. Theres no reason for gamers to point a lawsuit at Steam / Valve.

[@NeoAutodroid]

no it really isn't 😂 you can almost always find games cheaper on CDkeys or other key wholesale distributors, if you're seriously buying games through the actual stream store you're exactly the type of gullible person corporations love GOG also offers so many for much cheaper

[@bingchilling3914]

@@NeoAutodroid okay. The best Firstparty store then. Yeah, I'm a real drone for not buying game keys on shady websites.

[@agentrexx]

they are forcing game companies to increase theyre prices by having an insane comission rate of 30% of all sales. That wil lbasically destroy the ability for any small studios to make any money off theyre games, this isnt like unreal engine where you have to make a certain amount of profit before they charge you for using theyre engine, in steam every sale no matter how little they get. This is extremely anti compettive and a clear monoply over the market.

[@TheJusticeLeague]

40% of the total recovered? so if you got 60% (the max amount to recover) its gone basically down to crumbs. youre getting less money back than the law firm itself. Its just a big profit thing for them.

[@pilotharibo]

was the site hacked? it just shows a soccer bets ad or something

[@tallyikroe2476]

The actual case against value is at best, Mason/Wolfire/Immersion (or whoever is in charge of this case) was dropped on pavement as a kid, at worst its a company attacking a company that is trying to do a good thing. Their Entire Lawsuit got thrown out because of sheer stupidity except for 1 point that Judge John C Coughenour would allow to be debated further for a potential case of some unwritten rules that might be a bit suspicious but nothing that's too groundbreaking to look at steam differently from its legacy and especially to justify the 60% Money back from steam

[@Glf20x]

how does that boot taste?

[@SynnekoNya]

Right, its almost as funny as all the crybabies going around the comment sections that got nothing better to complain about! Its not like they'd ever even had the money to buy a Index or a Deck, to actually experience it all, not to mention all the crazy support they put on the line for people, in comparison to going to another platform and they just ignore you, hahaha, Sony and Microsoft? Pfft, hell no they'll just say "Oh too bad, you bought this, it isn't our fault you made a poor decision" or other PC launchers, like EA an absolute mess, Ubisoft is crash central and they never respond to fix their games, Rockstar, literally pointless install. GoG haven't tried but i do have Cyberpunk although I don't think I was forced to sign in thankfully.

[@TRONiX404]

​@@SynnekoNyaremember 30% cut to sell u a broken game which they are responsible as a retailer for quality assurance. Steam also steals your data selling to the highest bidder. Also steam do not enforce quality assurance as a retailer of their products sold and takes the highest CUT of them all 30%. Steam platform is trash it's the most performance heavy launcher out there atlwast 12 background processes. It's bloated with adds completely unnecessary to just Launch a Game.

[@boredomandanarchy7568]

​@@TRONiX404got a source for any of thos claims of, selling your, personal data, or no quality control, if a game is low quality then it's on you for buying it, and even if it was there fault, they give a very generous refund policy of a few days to get a refund so long as youve havent played more then 2 hours of gameplay

[@Gudamangipo]

Im just afraid of what may happen to the accounts of those who file.

[@orianna1220]

Any retaliation against the consumer would break regulations again getting them fined. They have to eat the bullet on this one even if so they've made far more than if they didn't corner the market. I for one lean with everyone else that steam has just offered a good service in a one stop shop. Funny enough this makes me think why not charge Amazon or Google for monopolies on their perspective fields of business. But yea end users shouldn't be targeted.

[@scubasausage]

@@orianna1220 Amazon and Google have competitive selling fees though. Steam doesnt, you pay way more to sell on steam than anywhere else and the only reason people pay is because they know their game wont stand a chance if its not on steam. Its monopolistic and in the end the developers and the users all lose out. Steam make more money than almost all of the developers selling games on their storefront and yet they dont make any games themselves. That isnt right, Valve should not have this large a cut of the PC gaming market if all they are doing is facilitating a transaction.

[@justjack3075]

there will be retaliation since they are about to lose this lawsuit 100%

[@NeoAutodroid]

some of these comments really highlight the ignorance of consumers 🙄

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

Ok so there is NO WAY this suit is being called by actual consumers. I can say that with almost absolute certainty. Unless everyone is an idiot, which I honestly wouldn't put past people these days. No consumer in their right mind is not happy with steam's monopoly. Having all our games in one spot is awesome... being able to find 99% of the available games out there on a single platform... thats extremely convenient for the consumer. Having massive sales because the company can afford to do so is GREAT for consumers. This is really sad that some big firm saw this payday, and people will probably actually jump on board with this for a quick buck, completely ignoring that this monopoly actually benefits the consumers. . For comparison, does anyone remember when netflix had almost everything? And now fast forward to the "non-monopoly version" we have currently that actually costs more per month than it did previously when it had everything, and to watch maybe 60-70% of available modern shows you would need to be subscribed monthly to 5 or 6 different streaming services... That is NOT at all good for the consumer. No one wants 17 different launchers to sift through to find specific game titles and download files. . In a lot of cases, monopolies are actually better for the consumers. This is one of them. How about just forcing steam to become a publicly traded company so other people can join in the success... That sounds like a much better solution. But who am I. Just a normal guy with a working brain I guess.

[@agentrexx]

except its killing small devolopers becasue steam keeps increasing the comission rate they get per game sold forcing the studio to either accept a loss of profits or raise theyre prices just on steam. more and more small studios have to move to patreon or kickstarter to make enoguh money to stay afloat.

[@t_tmad5293]

@@agentrexxuh… they don’t have to use steam? Yeah it’s a free market, they can use whatever platform they want? Steam is a private company, if they accept their deal then you use it, if you don’t, no one force you to do anything?

[@mikerotch4810]

I don't think I qualify cause I get like 95% percent of my games from steam sales. I have no beef with steam so ill pass on this. I would however like to sue Valve for never releasing a Half Life 3.

[@SpeedyG3]

Is it a "phishing" scam?

[@JESSEQUEST]

You didn't check your facts before bloating chat with falsehoods, did you?

[@SpeedyG3]

@JesseQuest why are you getting all defensive? I'm asking a genuine question. I don't just give my personal data out willy nilly. Now based on your reply I think I will just avoid the "free money". This is too sketchy. Not everyone has the luxury and time to research .

[@AgentFearX]

​@@SpeedyG3 I believe he said that because the way you phrased made it sound like a statement with an added question mark. Just edit it to be "Is it a 'phishing' scam?"

[@SpeedyG3]

@AgentFearX thanks. That makes sense. I will fix it. I didn't deliberately try to hurt his feelings I was just honestly inquiring and skeptical as you got to be in this world. You CANT just believe any random shmuck on YT especially one that acts like this and doesn't give an honest answer

[@MichaelR1975]

Keep seeing this I kinda feel it's bs. First claim was steam suppodly sold your info. Been a member since 2009 never seen anything to support claim. Now the claim is steam charges more bs. If anything they change less. New Xbox x/s series cost 70 bucks you can buy on steam for 60. I also see games on steam for 15 to 20 bucks that still cost 30 on console.

[@JESSEQUEST]

Dunno if this point I'm making is too valid so everyone will have to weigh in on it. They're an exceedingly professional law firm from Washington, D.C. I don't think they're going chasing what they don't first think are sure things without feeling like they'd make something from it. I don't have direct access to their files and research papers, but I'm confident if they're putting people to work on it, they have no doubt this is a very real, very possible case to be made of.

[@agentrexx]

I am not sure if you read the actual lawsuit but they issue they are being sued over is being anticompettive with a 30% comission rate on all games sold. this basically forces indie studios to either charge more for theyre games are accept a loss of profits. This practice is considered very anti competitive, as most marketplaces decrease the cost of comissions theyre they become more stable instead steam has only contiued to increase comission costs knowing that the customers wil lattack the studios for being 'greedy' when they increase steam costs instead of attacking steam.

[@molto7783]

ima get money back from steam to spend on steam

[@SnappySnapfire]

They take 40% of what they recover Hell no

[@deputyd5422]

@@soldier7332 If steam over charges you then why are you even using it? You have choices where you can buy games and it sounds like you made the wrong one.

[@xyyx-vl3ml]

Ngl, tempted after all the half-assed steam support cases they didn't even help me on. They don't do anything about scammers, their support team takes forever to get back and when they do it's usually just them saying "sorry, nothing we can do about it, GOOD LUCK!", but eh, whatever.

[@pbabiesinspace6112]

Totally not what this case is about. If you support crooked law firms exploiting the law to line their own pockets, it will encourage more scum bag firms to do the same thing making it not profitable to even have any platform like this at all. Say goodbye to Steam sales. I'm sure Gamestop would love that though.

[@sharkbear123]

How did you contact support? my first account got hacked with $1k worth of games, items, etc. and I tried everything possible to no avail

[@MasterBasser]

i disagree, hard pass. ive saved money buying on steam sales. games used to cost 60 bucks costing me 20. not only that but imagine i get back the 3 or 4 grand, but lose my steam account? hard pass.

[@h.d.1624]

Most of the games ive got I have played for at least 50 hours. And they are all fun games that I got on sales sooo... I don't feel the need to take my money back when I feel like ive only spend 300 bucks in the last 4 years.

[@slc9800gtx]

STEAM is the best gaming platform ever. No way would I risk my standings with them over this issue. They constantly have great sales that save me a ton of money. I am not going to give some law firm a 40 percent commission to try and get back some money I might be owed.

[@agentrexx]

except steam holds a monopoly on teh marketplace and charges an insane 30% comission rate on games sold. Its forcing more and more indie game companies off the platform and onto kickstarter and patreon

[@therowdyrue7768]

@@agentrexx Its 2023 boss no one says "teh" anymore.

[@oblivionsiftergamez5390]

they make every dev pay 100 USD to publish new game listings even if theyre a free game my guy steam is beyond repair due to that imo for a newer indie dev thats like 3 months of grocerie savings (well at least in my situation)

[@usernamesareforidiot]

@@agentrexx How is it a monopoly if there are tons of other places to buy video games online?

[@usernamesareforidiot]

@@oblivionsiftergamez5390Yeah, it costs money to put something on a store shelf. They host your game for others to download, which requires storage, servers, and backups. They maintain the store page. They handle customer complaints. Your game gets put on the most popular store for video games on the internet.

[@RealHomeRecording]

Steam/Valve have never screwed me over, so I have zero interest in screwing them over.

[@Kimbizzo]

All good things come to an end usually because of greedy lawyers.

[@justjack3075]

Valve scammers are about to lose yet another lawsuit

[@detectiveduckduckson]

this fells like a scam

[@Wild4]

super legit you can follow the case and litigation through the link. Feel free to do the research.

[@SpeedyG3]

He gets his panties in a twist if you are genuinely concerned for your security

[@tallyikroe2476]

@@Wild4 The Website might be legit, but the entire case against steam is a fucking scam

[@SnappySnapfire]

40% recovery fee Hell no what a scam! Mason LLP is representing Steam account holders who are 18 years of age or older and reside in the United States. We work entirely on a contingency so you will owe us nothing unless we recover money for you. If we do, our fee is 40% of the recovery.

[@cameronguy87]

bro so you take as much as they do and you're commenting on everyone's post 40% is too much

[@JESSEQUEST]

Unless you have the law firm to get you back one penny back, I'd say be glad you even can get 60%.

[@thiccboi8225]

You can file the claims yourself and not pay anyone 40%, but I'd like to see you try

[@cheezelog3889]

Okay but Steam doesn't control the pricing of games...or even the pricing of stuff on the market nor do they buy up exclusivity(like epic games. Steam is absolutely not a monopoly...this lawsuit makes no sense. Also how does this force developers to sell games for higher? They get better rates on epic and the price is still the same so right out the gate that is proven false as all hell. Is this some kind of scam?

[@drakeP1999]

Honestly unless I missed something the actual game devs who make the games are unhappy with steam for forcing them to steam sales then they should get paid instead of use, again unless I missed something correct me but this sounds like nothing bad happened to us

[@griffin1182]

Steam doesnt force games to go on sale.

[@agentrexx]

the lawsuit is about anitcompetitive systems steam uses. Steam has increased theyre comission rate per game sold to 30%, in most industries where theyre is a comission rate for sales the company decreases the comission rate as the bisuness takes off to allow more things to be sold on the plattform. but steam has instead increased comission rates and forced the consumers to pay those prices as game devs are having to increase the price of games to maintain a profit. This is considered very anti competitive in the industry and becasue they have a choke hold on the market theyre is no one to challenge them and offer a better deal for these games to be sold on.

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

​@@agentrexx what's stopping devs from just selling the game on their own website? Or on Amazon? Or Epic?

[@amerashi1111]

​@@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD Steam is the only service that lets you get big games out, people wont spend money on a website and often dont trust them. so steam is the only way to go for most game devs

[@RealHomeRecording]

@@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD nothing is stopping them other than laziness.

[@TheCrazzyGuy11]

what about canadians? ive spent like 2k on games the past 2 years so some money back would be nice

[@Wild4]

Do a google search within your country and see if there is a open case within your borders.

[@johnbrooks6257]

I mean... I love steam, but I have over $6k spent in the last four years alone. Thats not even the lifetime total (13 Years). I'll sign up just to see if it's legit. If I get anything from it it's not like I won't just spend it on steam again.

[@andreascox4956]

howd it go

[@raouldukestudios]

​@andreascox4956 this is gonna take at least a year so I'd check back after at least that long lol

[@Wild4]

I think mine was around 4.7K - I will be interested to se. Guess I will hear you follow up in like a year from now ha ha ha Good Luck

[@liamhop6148]

@@Wild4 did they even get back to YOU after 3 months yet lol

[@johnbrooks6257]

Nothing yet. This will take some time I assume, but whatever the outcome I will be sure to update.

[@carpet163]

Cool I guess. Just hoping nothing happens to my account. I doubt it though.

[@Wild4]

Your all good - Nothing will happed to your account

[@airhead1218]

so what happens if i used the steam community market to buy these games?

[@Suicidalsquadd]

Honestly, I'm not going to do it. As long as steam fixes their shit, that's all that matters. By comparison, steam is a pretty great company, and they do shit right 99% of the time and I'm not going to use this opportunity to shake their pockets like a beggar, let them get their finger wag and move on to do better in the future.

[@agentrexx]

if you have talked to anyone that works at the steam headquarters you would know they are not a great company at all They also charge the steepest comission rate for sales than any other marketplaces at 30% basically destroying any profits small studios can make off theyre games, but they are forced to sell on steam becasue they basically hold a monopoly on the industry.

[@Suicidalsquadd]

@@agentrexx there’s gog, humble store, egs, selling through your own website, origin, Amazon games, gamers gate, Microsoft store. Just because they were among the first and best doesn’t mean it’s a monopoly. And if you were the largest, with the highest exposure, would you not increase your commission to reflect the added revenue that your charges receive? You get what you pay for. Tarkov is one of the biggest games around right now and guess where they sell? Not steam, not gog, not egs, not Humble, not anywhere but their own website.

[@oblivionsiftergamez5390]

@@agentrexx ahh so you also know about the 100 USD publish fee then right ?

[@gho5tspartan26yt]

Can I still do this

[@MrMcbear]

Fyi they take 40% as their cut, but either way its still free money back so.

[@Wild4]

pretty standard for a lawyer sadly

[@theebigstink4193]

Id rather them have it then bitch ass steam

[@schonsospaet22]

At a certain point the companies get too greedy. I will never support a private monopoly. It's sad, that only us citizens get their money back.

[@portable_wall9222]

you should delete this video because it is wildly incorrect. I've spent a lot of money on steam and it has been worth every penny. It's not their fault that their platform is simply the best to use out of all of them.

[@liquidbraino]

You should delete this comment because you're an idiot. The lawsuit is real; you can't just file a lawsuit if no laws have been broken and they're in the middle of arbitrations right now.

[@kondabuddyTV]

All I can say is, Steam has done me no wrong. I love their platform, I love the deals, and I like to think of myself as a Good person and so this is where I draw the line. I will not betray a company that has only brought stress relief to me for years. Thank You Steam and Goodluck.

[@robby-_-001]

yes please stand up for the million dollar company that does not care about you.

[@kondabuddyTV]

@@robby-_-001 They obviously do care since you can buy games at 90% off? I think that is the highest I have ever seen on their platform. Furthermore, I love how Steam will let everyone know whose a hacker and cheater on their profiles so I can understand why some people would not like steam, lmao.

[@SirBrucie]

​@@robby-_-001this

[@MisterManTheBestMan]

@@robby-_-001 Suggest a single better alternative to Steam.

[@agentrexx]

taking 90% off a game dousnt hurt them in it only the studios that make the game, they charge a 30% off all games sold regardles of the sales on the game, game studios have come out and said they will have to increase he price of games as steam keep increases the comission rate. but they know the customers will get mad at the studios and not at steam so they can jsut keep increasing the comission rate till al lthe small game studios are obliterated. There is a reason why more and more inde games are having to use patreon and kickstarter to make money.

[@zerogame1037]

hmmm intreasting, but what about regions outside of the states like EU? 🤔

[@jesters1gamble201]

Exactly what about us

[@SleepingForAWeek]

No its for those who reside in the united states. Actually, read on the site instead of asking dumb questions.

[@jesters1gamble201]

How is it a dumb question you act like only Americans use steam for pc games. What about the Americans that live over in Europe and other parts of the world

[@SleepingForAWeek]

@jesters1 gamble its a dumb question because they didn't even go to check themselves before commenting

[@SleepingForAWeek]

@@jesters1gamble201 im from eu btw

[@gizzy6268]

Wonder if we would lose our games or even Steam account if we sign up for this.

[@selectionn]

you cant, that would be retaliation which is illegal, and would mean you could sue them for an exorbitant amount

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

​@@selectionn The way most ToS agreements are writen, there is probably half a dozen things in there they could claim they terminated your account for and the timing was just coincidental.

[@psychodoctor5370]

@@scottthewaterwarrior this is true, but it's also not true, most courts view TOS as berely legal, and even then you don't have to prove that steam was retaliating definitively , you have have to prove that the timing showed that there is sufficient correlation between the arbitration, and your banning, TOS would likely not be a good argument for steam.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

@@psychodoctor5370 Well yeah, ToS are often thrown out by the courts, but it would still time and money to go to court. I'd be skeptical the courts would rule just on correlation of timing. As much as I would like to believe that is how it would go down, the deck is very much stacked against the consumer in favor of corporations.

[@chopchop8551]

how does the refund work do I lose all the games I bought in the past few years and get my money back

[@tallyikroe2476]

I mean, that' how a refund works.

[@andrewattenborough6104]

some ask what country youre from and you can be from any country... trying to do this from canada, are these legit?

[@zeromod1]

Damn, you shilling for the lawyers? Where do i sing up to be on steams side for how they help protect me and my purchases?

[@kinroga]

Right. Im dont care about getting some money. I support steam. They are the best at what they do and not their fault other market places fucking suck.

[@zguesss]

Nahh.. I'm good. I have over 150 games on steam and I paid what I paid. I love the company, I think the pricing is fair, and the customer service is awesome. Keep my cash Steam!

[@Kittinlil]

Yeah a judge thinks there is a president. However this does not mean you are guaranteed anything. The trial has not even happened, and honestly to me it's based on BS. Steam is one of the best online platforms out there. They aren't monopolizing anything. It's free for players to join, the games I have purchased are cheaper and they play better through the steam platform then others I have tried. There's no contract by steam to have complete control over the games that developers produce. They can choose to bring their game to steam or not, what they choose to pay is up to them, I do not even get how they are claiming they are monopolizing anything. Far from it Steam Is the favored platform among gamers for a reason. As others have pointed out one of the only online PC platforms that allows cross plays with the console gamers with out limiting you to only be able to play with friends on their platform. To me this is nothing but BS. My guess is that other mediocre platforms are jealous of steams success, and developers not taking into consideration the gamer base and why the gamers have chosen steam.

[@genenorris2344]

Beware my friend did the first class action lawsuit and he can no longer purchase games from steam. He can add game codes from other sites only and he lost other community features.

[@AgentFearX]

Fake, they can't do that, that's retaliation which is Illegal. You are either lying or your friend is pulling your leg.

[@CM-iz5ny]

Lol sure bud.

[@aeceath]

Section 11 of the Steam Subscriber Agreement:

[@JBeamGT3]

I just want to make some easy money, I don't give a fuck about the morals of steam being so amazing or not. What I don't want to do is jeopardize 10+ years of game collecting over a shady lawsuit.

[@SirBrucie]

Screw steam. Get your money.

[@JBeamGT3]

@@SirBrucie Oh I made a claim big son, I'm getting that money lol. I just wish this whole lawsuit wasn't so shady seeming. Because FYI for people reading this I actually got in contact with a firm and they explained arbitration and we are now moving my claim forward. And the word is people involved could "potentially" see the value of their steam collections as a payout. So for some of us this could have a couple zeros behind the first number 🤣. Totally worth it.

[@SirBrucie]

@JBeamGT3 Understood, I have a a count from 2014 with over 1k games (a few delisted). Let me know how it goes.

[@aeceath]

​@@JBeamGT3 back out of the lawsuit asap, it will delete your steam accoutn

[@Goodsuh]

Of all the Monopolies in the tech industry… the one that ACTUALLY caters to and constantly gives sales to customers is getting sued???

[@liquidbraino]

No the one that protects hackers and thieves while telling honest gamers to go fuck themselves is getting sued. I don't know what planet you're on.

[@Jfreek5050]

Okay but if I do this do I lose access to the games I have? I mean honestly I might just reuse the money for future games anyway so they could just give me store credit lol

[@agentrexx]

they cant legally seek repercussions against you or they face major fines as well. you can use the moeny for whatever you want, this lawsuit is about theyre anti competitve comission rates and monopoly over the digital game market.

[@user-pc7ef5sb6x]

I wish all games were on steam.

[@CM-iz5ny]

Why though? Steam is great. Great refund policy great prices reliable service. Whats the problem here?

[@SturmDwarf]

$$$$

[@agentrexx]

The fact they charge a 30% comission rate on all games which is the highest of any digital marketplace but continue to do so becasue they know no other digital platform has the audience they have.

[@CM-iz5ny]

@@agentrexx And that's a problem because?

[@thebeluvdtrex]

I love Valve and Steam. Not in support of this lawsuit.

[@eclipse369.]

how would they owe me money lol you see the price you click add to cart you click purchase if you overpaid its a YOU problem not a steam problem if anything they prob owe the game makers money not us

[@alt666]

80% of my 10000+ dollars in games were from humble lmao imagine getting 60% of that back The only issue I have with steam is that they locked the workshop to let you only download mods for games you own through steam... Meaning indie games on sites like itchio that get a steam release later but don't give a code for it aren't able to be modded because some people only put mods on the workshop.

[@sanitarium017]

Nexus mods is a thing

[@alt666]

@@sanitarium017 I know. Where do you think i downloaded my almost 700 mod load order for skyrim. The issue is that some games have all of their mods or the most up to date versions on steams workshop. And im not buying a game twice just for mods.

[@ric270]

​@@alt666that's more of a modder thing than a steam thing I think

[@alt666]

@@ric270 No it's a steam thing. You used to be able to download mods for games you didn't buy on steam but now you can't.

[@gabrix0675]

So since im canadian i cant get a refund? Sad in Qc we pay high taxe on every game bought on steam wish i get that money back :(

[@ABRetroCollections]

Maybe you can ask Jean Charest to pay back those taxes.

[@Toughguygames]

we the consumers all saw the prices we agreed to that purchase we GREED to pay as we did, and many of us benefitted from sales or buying our steam keys from g2a which steam allows for. we could have just gone to epic, or microsoft games or bought physical copies of certain titels. there was no monopoly gun to our head saying oh you want game? then you MUST buy it here muahahaha. we as gamers chose to pay the price by going thru steam. maybe there is merit for developers to go after steam but i dont see a reason for us the players to go after steam

[@Distriived]

This is dumb who even buys games on Steam at full price. I never once felt screwed over by them.

[@fullyawake]

Good judge tho he caught the scammers 😊 At least US still has some decent judges left if nothing else

[@baldeagle1171]

Really? Encouraging people to take part in a predatory lawsuit, against people that cared for us when everyone else abandoned us on pc. Nah. This is dirty, and i have zero respect for people doing this.

[@thiccboi8225]

Boo hoo, Gaben has enough money to give me $100 back doesn't make a dent to them but pays bills for me. Not like people are getting hundreds of thousands

[@baldeagle1171]

@@thiccboi8225 100,000 x 100 can still be a lot

[@thiccboi8225]

@@baldeagle1171 sure, but are 100,000 people actually going through with the arbitration and getting paid? I just heard of this, and doesn't seem like this is a super well known thing

[@baldeagle1171]

@Thicc Boi depends on the algo. And the motivation. I get commercials all the time. Probably cause I'm a steam user

[@tallyikroe2476]

@@thiccboi8225 This Case has no water except for 1 specific point which that Judge said "should be debated further"

[@dcaneil9565]

Most my games where bought when steam had a sale and most of those games was 50- 80 percent off. Valve dosnt owe me anything. I think this lawsuit is a front to get other stores like epic and Microsoft to rise to fame with there sh,ty non consumer friendly practices. Wake up people steam has been fair to us. I almost bought into that 60 percent refund. That is alot of money for someone who has over 150 games all priced close to $ 50 dollars a piece. If goes under then i got news got news for both epic and Microsoft because im already pirating there exclusive games that should have been on steam to begin with. My next plan is to pirate their entire library of everything i like of steam goes bad. Mark my words.

[@ZuraTheCat]

How can steam be a monopoly if the epic store launchers or thing not that I use that. I just heard that epic store was doing okay. What happened?

[@tallyikroe2476]

Essentially Wolfire Games are fucking crybabies (or whoever it was that was in charge of making that dreadful lawsuit)

[@alexanderpetersen1664]

Steam is a great company. Dont ruin this

[@liquidbraino]

Zero updates in over ten months = 100% scam. They never intended on litigating on behalf of the gamers. They stole our information in order to litigate on behalf of the game developers.

[@atvkid0805]

you don't own anything on steam, they sell a license to play games that's it. Steam owns everything they have sold

[@BongSwansong]

You do realize thats how every piece of digital media works... on each platform? Youre the end user and youre granted an end user license. Which explains why you have to agree to an EULA (End User License Agreement) in most games. This isnt exclusive to steam.

[@eclipse369.]

true but false in a sense if i bought a game and wasnt able to access it via the platform i got it from then i can thank the good lads of the internet for uploading it somewhere else where i can download and play anytime i want If i buy it, i own it, regardless of what any paper or words may say, and i will get access to what i bought in whatever way i wish.

[@ThugginTuna]

Leave steam alone

[@malicemike6875]

You'll definitely lose access to your account so yeah.

[@slowafej1]

Does anyone know when this ends? When is the latest date I can give them my info and get my money back?

[@casedistorted]

Has anyone won money from these? They’re doing another round of lawsuits I guess

[@liquidbraino]

No updates for over a year. I'm starting to think it was a scam to collect user data for the other lawsuit from the game developers; in support of their case. They have no intention of arbitrating any case for the gamers. They wasted our time in order to steal our data.

[@linitho]

US only damn sucks

[@SnappySnapfire]

Yeah but they take 40% if they recover money for you Nah

[@tallyikroe2476]

@@SnappySnapfire So as much as steam would...

[@hrushka74]

have to be from the united states to be eligible...

[@mr.sniffles7268]

The amount of people worshiping a multi-billion dollar corporation is alarming. Valve/steam doesn't do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. Corporations are not your friends. If they broke the law, they should be held accountable. And there's nothing wrong with getting some of your money back from a corporation you gave too much to

[@NightCrydeFM]

Go sue every company ever, then. See if your rules still apply then when every single company that has ever existed in the modern day is harvesting your info. But STEAM's the bad guy? Buddy you need to stop smoking and watching daytime television.

[@pappask12e73]

i dont live in usa :(

[@JESSEQUEST]

Thank you very much for this video! :)

[@Wild4]

You are super welcome buddy

[@SnappySnapfire]

You going to let that company take 40% of what you get back LMAO

[@JESSEQUEST]

@Snappy Snapfire ....yep. Unless you have a law degree and know how to take on multibillion dollar companies and want 30% and to give me 70? Last I heard, 60% of a thing is a lot more than 0%. Also, good luck trying to grow your patches of weeds saying this same comment to like 6 other people on the same video. You may be hoping for a response from me, but I'm not someone to be drained of social energy. Just obliterating your weeds with facts. Can't wait to see your five alternate profiles call me a chump or fool in the comments. Don't keep me waiting. I want a good laugh.

[@MadDragon76]

​@@SnappySnapfire That's 60% more than you would get without. Y'alls call.

[@ziggle5000]

​​@@MadDragon76 People who say "y'all" should face the wall. Especially in a sentence as thoroughly braindamaged as "y'alls call"

[@yeaguyw2408]

CAUTION CAUTION BS LINK

[@manadol69]

399'th dislike

[@serumonxbox]

very real but steam will retaliate if this lawsuit goes through everyone account getting banned 😂

[@danfagan9631]

And then they get sued even worse retaliation is illegal

[@serumonxbox]

@@danfagan9631 i had no idea!

[@SnappySnapfire]

They take 40% if they recover money though LMAO! Hell no

[@serumonxbox]

@@SnappySnapfire you’re still getting 60% lol and you lose nothing outta doing it

[@class2instructor32]

​@@serumonxbox That guy reminded me of on dumb & dumber where they are talking about winning the lottery , but oh think of all the taxes...nevermind

[@rejorded]

i could probably lie abt my age

[@Wild4]

Perhaps but you have to sign a legal doc when you submit

[@fellowcomrade7914]

It's pretty serious legal stuff, I wouldn't

[@tallyikroe2476]

Im just realizing thats there's a ton of people saying "thanks for defending a big cooperation, cringe". Anyone that says something like this, don't say your opinion because it doesn't matter to anyone anymore

[@philwilcox9146]

The lawsuit is baseless and to promote this is dusgusting

[@agentrexx]

I love that no one in the comments thinks its insane that steam charges a 30% commission rate on all sold games, this is the main focus on the lawsuit, by being the most used platform they should over time be able to lower the commission rate as the model proves successful so smaller indie games can get on the marketplace and see a return on value, but instead steam since its creation has increased there commission rate to the new one of 30% which is forcing game companies to accept a loss of profits or inflate there prices so the customer has to pay the commission rate. This whole lawsuit of over them being extremely anti competitive which competition is supposed to be the corner stone of USAs industries. We cant allow these companies to monopolize the markets because that means they can increase the prices and the customers are forced to pay them.

[@scubasausage]

Its falling on deaf ears. PC gamers seemingly love steam and paying more than they should for things. Valve used to make games, they learned that there's far more money forcing other developers to pony up money to sell their games on their store instead of making their own.

[@TehEMan]

an interesting argument to counter common talk

[@eclipse369.]

If the main focus is the 30% commie rate, then why the fk is the headlines for the suit trying to give consumers back money LOL Your comment is first of heard of it. No one agrees with 30% except steam, its downright immoral, evil, greed.

[@eclipse369.]

@@scubasausage How are we paying more money? If others are like me they always wait for 50% percent off games. Hell 90% of my game list were under 15 bucks, most of those under 13 bucks.

[@scubasausage]

@@eclipse369. You appear to assume that these sales would not have happened without steam? Why would you think that? Every retailier in the world has a "sale"" at some point. Its not a difficult thing to understand, steam takes 30% of all the money paid for games. If steam took less then you would pay less as this cost is paid by you. You will get less money back on the lawsuit if most of your purchases are from discounted titles. But you still paid steam 30% of that 50% off. If you pay $20 for a game $6 of that goes to Valve and the other 14 goes to the people who actually made the thing.

[@thadevilzadvocate]

Times like these I’m glad I switched to consoles.

[@theviolenceenjoyer]

why, so you dont get free money? bad logic lol

[@mgw5377]

that makes no sense lol

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

Most my PC games are just so old they are CDs, lol!

[@skoomd4447]

Paying 15$ a month just to play the games you already bought sounds great

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

@@skoomd4447 Wait, what? Consoles make you pay a monthly fee to play games now?!?

[@gowron277a]

If you do this, im pretty sure you lose your steam account.

[@theviolenceenjoyer]

the ultimate steam 60% off sale

[@SnappySnapfire]

LMAO! They take 40% as a fee for doing it Read the print

[@sevenshooter2987]

​@@SnappySnapfire yea, so you get 60 percent back, learn math.

[@bloxer9563]

@@sevenshooter2987 hes an idiot dont pay him mind

[@WinterFlare]

@@sevenshooter2987Not exactly. They’re saying games are boosted up to 60% in price through frees, and they’re taking 40% of that 60%, so you will get 36% of your money back.

[@MrDANI3L84VS]

i bought hell let loss and the game is crap i played it for less than two hours, actually i tried to play that crap and i didn't like the game, i asked for a refund and they told me i played five hours of the game and they won't give me a refund, damn it them to use that money for medicine, serious thieves, run away from them as much as possible!

[@skoomd4447]

Having the game open counts as play time, steam is a great service and has always refunded me if i play less than 2 hours

[@skoomd4447]

@HOTTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD 🤣 they dont set the prices dumbass, and they have huge sales all year round, ive payed less for every game on steam than on xbox

[@tallyikroe2476]

@HOTTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD Are you saying most of their games, some of the games or all of the games???

[@ric270]

​@@soldier7332steam doesn't set the prices except for valve games, all the rest of the prices are set by the actual developers of the games, but I doubt you had the braincells to release that

[@gogoarcade]

Sure I'm gonna give you my steam ID 😏

[@emilhelppi7350]

What about those living in Canada?