Getting Better Studio Sound, KH 80 DSP - Part 1: Basic Monitoring Setup

[@SuperToastytoast]

you guys are so good at making videos too its crazy

[@costaschrysos3310]

He is so polite : "Should be call this a medium desk?" Hahahah... I brought two pairs of KH 120. One in the Theater and one in the Studio... They are killers...!!! Ready to install a KH 750 DSP and with the help of Neumann.Control DSP Monitor Setup we are going to the next level..!! Thank you Neumann to be so good...!!

[@ROBINTV]

Well done! I honestly learned two new details about room acoustics when I really want to work with sound. And I felt as I was with you guys in this room. Nice catch, nice atmosphere!

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, thanks for your nice feedback. We are glad that you like our tutorial.

[@R.A.G.G.A.R]

I WANT PART 2 :)

[@punktcom3872]

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[@SergioValenzuela]

I`m in love with Neumann, and the great idea of making this fun, excellent, realworld video to help setup. Truly great little speakers.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Appreciate the kind words 🙂

[@DG-ss1gc]

Mr Neumann , the world needs your company to design and bring to market a new modern design of the disappearing but much needed Neumann VMS . A modern vinyl mastering system that can cut acrylic masters with the same or better precision than the VMS of yesteryear is just what is needed in modern music. Perhaps with the power of technology, CNC ,for a lathe , or perhaps a new direction via 3d printing . Anything that can allow records to be cut by smaller record companies. In that spirit the device should cost between $10,000.00 and 50,000.00 USD that way it is within the reach of small business owners. If Abby Road’s Geoff Pesche reports he cuts as many records per week now as in the 1980s . I of course don’t think that means the volume is the same, but it’s enough to keep them this busy, means of production opening up for small businesses and engineers. Beyond the business sense, this is something the world needs, we don’t want vinyl to fade away. It’s a not like a flash drive , a phone memory or SD card . It’s craft work. It’s culture, art, and emotion, etched into physical form.

[@raffaelgruber2431]

Still no Pt.2 after 7 months?!

[@igniaulfsborg8946]

Very slick speaker set up instructional

[@HEINandKLEIN]

AMAZING SPEAKER!!!

[@vibezproducerr]

PART 2

[@clxma]

man i love my neumann kh120A. as a good sub i'd recommend the adam sub7. the neumann sub was a bit expensive for me, BUT you can give them a chance without a sub. for the sub added a nice bottom layer though

[@sam_mcgov]

Does anyone know what audio cables I need to be using to connect to my audio interface? (I have an apollo twin x)

[@01left]

Anyone know which Monitor Racks where used?

[@gino3286]

Great video indeed. Instead of the cable i would just use a cheap laser meter for speakers placement ... but this system must be really amazing Thanks for the video, Regards, gino

[@Agingerop]

Part 2????

[@officialdiomer]

Hi! Which would you recommend in a small room - the KH80 or KH120A/II? Also -if the 120’s are better, are the 120A’s worth buying in 2024 or should I consider only the 120 II’s?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi there! Go with the KH 120 II! Thanks to the DSP core you can align them with the MA 1 system.

[@marcos_music_channel]

I want that Lucille!

[@sonalight]

1:11 where can I get the flight-case?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi there! These were a custom made for this video. Unfortunately, we don't sell them!

[@Кий-у3ч]

My first studio monitors were from Tannoy. I'm very disappointed with them because they're not very detailed. I'm looking for the most detailed speakers. Do they have these qualities in them?

[@minutemaid123]

How big was that room in dimension wise to be using the KH80 and not the 120?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi there! We used the KH 80s in this case because they were the only monitors with a DSP core at that time.This video is quite old now. Check out the KH 120 II and KH 150 - both of them have DSP as well now.

[@officialdiomer]

@@GeorgNeumannGmbHhi! Which would you recommend in a small room - the KH80 or KH120A/II? Also -if the 120’s are better, are the 120A’s worth buying in 2024 or should I consider only the 120 II’s?

[@alexaleshkov1582]

Are you planning to release Neumann.Control version for macOS?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Alex, Neumann.Control is available for iPad on the App Store now. We will inform you, as soon as Neumann.Control is available on additional platforms and devices. Have a nice week!

[@muffinviking]

@@GeorgNeumannGmbH well this aged poorly lol, and don't say "there's the MA-1 app" because it's not the same.

[@SuperToastytoast]

Where is part 2!?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi! We are currently working on the part 2 video, however, we'll publish it very soon so stay tuned! Have a super week!

[@TheOnlineBusker]

Great video! Will there be a series of these?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Thanks! Yes, in part 2 we focus on room-specific modifications and adjustments with our new Neumann.Control app. Have a nice day.

[@ericlee5935]

Looks nice, maybe I’ll get one for my home. When will the Neumann control app will be available? Needs a measurement mic? And where is part 2 of this video?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Neumann.Control is currently in testing. Please see website for release date of Neumann.Control. Video part 2 will follow. For now, the KH 80 DSP is an excellent stand-alone product and can be used just like any other analog loudspeaker: position it, plug it in, switch it on, adjust the backpanel switches as needed and enjoy.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

The Precision Alignment Kit (PAK 1) will consist of a network connected interface and a measurement microphone. It will be launched later in 2018 together with Neumann.Control support. The first release of Neumann.Control will include Manual Alignment, for those with their own measurement system, and Guided Alignment, for those without. Guided Alignment asks some simple questions and sets appropriate filters for you. With Manual Alignment you get access to the 8-band fully parametric equaliser but you are on your own using that!

[@TheThortoy]

Georg Neumann GmbH Part 2 ???

[@Lemarchand34]

@@GeorgNeumannGmbH Hello there. Do you still have plans of releasing the PAK1 at some point or you have ditched the whole concept? In addition are there any plans of the Neumann App to be available in other devices as well apart from an ipad? A KH80 owner. Cheers.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, Thank you for your message. Neumann.Control is only available as an iPad app for now. If we support a new platform with our software, we will announce this at the time of a public beta test. Please stay tuned.

[@malibustacy3606]

I was looking at the KH 150'S but $2,275/each for a casual listening speaker seemed just a little too steep.

[@ffarr1]

Are the brackets the Neumann LH-61 for these?

[@mohinderjeetsingh5607]

What about Kh 120 model for mixing

[@64akon]

Should the control be set on free standing instead of medium desk? because they aren't on the desk 🤔

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Oliver, the Low mid control setting is to adopt the monitor to its direct acoustical environment which leads to more or less loading in this frequency range. Since the monitors are a bit away from the desk best option would probably be in free standing position. But there is also the loading from the wall behind and the natural acoustical behavior of the room itself. So both of these geometries lead to a slight increase of the low mids which could nicely be compensated with the EQ settings on the back. Of course Andrew listened to the result after the setup and could confirm that this setting was correct for this setup. In general you should aways verify the control settings either by measuring the system or listening to well known recordings after choosing a setting.

[@Agingerop]

Where's part 2?????!!! its been months!!!!!

[@donvittoriosierra]

Since they are on stands why were they set to medium desk? Won't they lose bass that way?

[@donvittoriosierra]

cool vid by the way. I will have a pair of these soon.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, The KH 80s are placed on stands but close to a acoustically significant loading created by the desk in front of them. That leads to an increased level in the low mid region which should be reduced to achieve a neutral frequency response. If set to medium desk the correction measure corrects just this frequency area.

[@midamultitool1387]

Awesome video! Very informative. I want a pair of the speakers! Also that song is amazing! Where can I find the full version!?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, thanks for your interest in our new Studio Monitor KH 80 DSP. For the full version of the song „Flashlight“ from David Oesterling please visit kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5maq6J3rayDnKM

[@64akon]

@@GeorgNeumannGmbH better quality here tidal.com/track/59354431

[@ericlee5935]

where's part two? when it's coming out the DSP​ app?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Eric, we are making very good progress on the Neumann.Control software but the development takes more time. We will inform you personally as soon as the app is available in the App Store. Have a great day!

[@fededj2002]

Ordered a pair of these today. What stands are those?...I want to buy them

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Federico, we have a bunch of monitor stand options here: en-de.neumann.com/kh-80-dsp-a-g#accessories.

[@mrsalamander9246]

Genelec 8000-409B (K&M 26741-029-55) floor speaker stand

[@jorgeschez9240]

I cannot find that flight case anywhere. Is that the same as the kh120's?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Jorge, that flight case we used in the video was specifically designed in the "Home Studio Academy" look for the sake of this production. We do not sell flight cases. Have a great day!

[@64akon]

I can only find case for the 120 & 310

[@jasonhardy142]

Big Up from U.k! Getting these speakers next month! Don't know if to get the 80's or 120's.😃 My studio space is 2m x 3m! Which speakers??

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Our range of nearfield monitors consists of the models KH 80, KH 120 and KH 310. All of them are recommended to begin of a distance of about 70 cm. All of these monitors are very uncritical regarding room and positioning variations because of their wave guide construction and their continuous directivity pattern. We currently offer attractive bundles including our Automatic Monitor Alignment and the KH 80 DSP. click here for more info: en-de.neumann.com/ma-1

[@sdl9120]

I just purchased the KH 80's. Just saw in the video that the speaker stands they were using looked like they were specifically made for the KH 80. where can I find them or who is the manufacturer?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi John, have a look here: en-de.neumann.com/kh-80-dsp-a-g#accessories. You'll find all the accessories available.

[@mrsalamander9246]

Genelec 8000-409B (K&M 26741-029-55) floor speaker stand

[@PapertowelsHere]

I'v got a 5m*4m Room, 80+750 or 120 +750, which one do you recommand? If I choose 80, will it too small? I really want its super flat response but the sound pressure is concerning. And sound absorption is little bit treated

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi there! Our range of nearfield monitors consists of the models KH 80, KH 120 and KH 310. All of them are recommended beginning with a distance of about 70 cm. All of these monitors are very uncritical regarding room and positioning variations because of their construction with wave guide and their continuous directivity pattern. On top of that they can be adopted to individual placements with a bunch of rear panel acoustical controls.

[@Кий-у3ч]

What equipment did you use to record everything? I like the quality.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, MKE 1 with 2000 series bodypacks on each character.

[@AlexCBrandon]

What kind of speaker stands are those?

[@AlexCBrandon]

Never mind, saw the answer below!

[@stephenrobinson60]

Hi. Trying to decide which to buy..the KH 80 DSP or the KH 120. The KH 80 make more sense for the size of my room, the flexibility of possible tweaking and financially. But... I prefer to record and mix at 96kHz.. whereas the on board dsp of the KH80's is 48kHz.. so this means I am listening and mixing at 48kHz?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Stephen, You can record at 96 kHz as normal. You then need to connect using analogue connections as the input is analogue. What happens inside the loudspeaker done for the benefit of the loudspeaker. Yes it is 48 kHz signal processing but, for a few reasons, that is actually better than 96 kHz! What matters the most is that you can hear all the audible frequencies present in the signal, and for that 48 kHz is way more than enough.

[@stephenrobinson60]

Georg Neumann GmbH Hi.. thanks so much for your reply. Yes that is what I figured.. and there are opinions for and against.. it doesnt matter in the context here, as they are excellent monitors. I will definately end up with either the kh80's or the kh120 's ..toss a coin maybe haha. Once again thanks for your reply cheers for 2018 :-)

[@djjuno106]

weres part 2?

[@frgc6159]

What studio monitor stands are you using in the video?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, Thanks for your interest. These are K&M round based stands: produkte.k-m.de/en/Speakerlighting-and-monitor-stands-and-holders/Monitor-stands/26740-Monitor-stand-black

[@AlexCBrandon]

Ah just saw this. Thanks for the answer!

[@mrsalamander9246]

Genelec 8000-409B (K&M 26741-029-55) floor speaker stand

[@Doubleodude]

Loved it thank you.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, thanks for your great feedback. We are happy that you like our tutorial.

[@TeamPolo155]

I want to buy these right now but is the software out yet?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Thank you for your interest in our Neumann.Control software. Neumann.Control is currently in testing. As soon as the software is ready it is formally launched into the market and you will find it on our official Facebook Page facebook.com/neumann/. You could also sign up for our newsletter on our website www.neumann.com/homestudio/en/ Have a great day!

[@TeamPolo155]

Georg Neumann GmbH you have no idea how much hope you guys have given me in music. I'm in a wheelchair, I'll leave it at that. I have a microphone of yours too that got things sounding how I wanted. Keep it up Neumann. Your in every single Instagram post of mine

[@panzer1896]

Very informative

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi, thanks for your positive feedback.

[@sayantheguitarfreak]

What monitor stands are those?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Sayan, It is a standard monitor stand (in this case K & M) with a LH 28 and LH 61 from Neumann: www.neumann-kh-line.com/neumann-kh/home_en.nsf/HTMLProduct?ReadForm&path=prof-monitoring&accid=53C75BBEED4ADD80C125721B00486C91/ and www.neumann-kh-line.com/neumann-kh/home_en.nsf/HTMLProduct?ReadForm&path=prof-monitoring&accid=4E7334E6F531C816C12577890056F338/

[@CelticStorm666]

Links not working :(

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Please just visit www.neumann-kh-line.com/ and seach for LH 28 and LH 61 from Neumann.

[@mrsalamander9246]

Genelec 8000-409B (K&M 26741-029-55) floor speaker stand

[@thehowlingterror]

Where is the dsp software?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi! We are making very good progress on the Neumann.Control software but the development takes more time. We will inform you personally as soon as the app is available in the App Store. Have a great day!

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi! We are happy to inform you that the Neumann.Control App is now available in the App Store as an iPad version. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to get in touch with us! Have a great day!

[@TheThortoy]

Georg Neumann GmbH what about on iphone ?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Toy, Neumann.Control is available for iPad on the App Store now. We will inform you, as soon as Neumann.Control is available on additional platforms and devices. We hope for your understanding and wish you a great week!

[@HaharuRecords]

so its just about that speakers..

[@gnuter3000]

Hippsters playing eminor on a gibson 335 ... niiiicccceeee

[@1pauluzz1]

I was ready to pull the trigger on the KH80 DSP but I went with Genelec instead. Here's why: Neumann is _impossible_ to contact. There is no contact form online, instead their customer service runs through Sennheiser, which happens to be rated "completely useless" on just about every ratings platform on the internet. I sent an email to Sennheiser in Germany about Neumann's monitors but they never replied. There is only one location in my country The Netherlands that does local support for Sennheiser and that company is also rated poorly on google reviews. I've learned my lesson in the past: no way I'm taking a gamble with expensive electronics that might need servicing at some point in time, or where I might just have some simple questions, on a company that doesn't do aftersales. Even if the monitor is superior, that kind of hassle is never worth it.

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi there! We are very sorry about the lack of support! We are currently in the process of setting up a global service structure that will make it as easy for our customers as possible to reach out to us and receive help. We really appreciate your feedback and understand the frustration for sure! We have sent this to everyone involved in Customer Service at Neumann to make the entire team aware!

[@der987654]

Mans walking like Ezio with the crate in AC 2

[@Maksim-cs4ci]

A love my 120 =)

[@trevormadsen]

iLoud Micro Monitor sounds more reference than KH 80 DSP.

[@jacobmorgenstein6788]

How can you tattoo your body… respect your body !

[@trevormadsen]

Show off by some bad actors!

[@OneTanMan]

What speaker stands are those?

[@GeorgNeumannGmbH]

Hi Reid, have a look at our KH 80 accessories here: en-de.neumann.com/kh-80-dsp-a-g#accessories.

[@mrsalamander9246]

Genelec 8000-409B (K&M 26741-029-55) floor speaker stand