GETTING INTO cEDH - THE PLAY TO WIN PODCAST

The Play to Win Podcast is officially back, and this time it's weekly!
RESOURCES MENTIONED IN EPISODE:
cEDH Decklist Database - cedh-decklist-database.com/
cEDH.Guide - cedh.guide/
Staples List - www.moxfield.com/decks/0DDiZV...
cEDH on Reddit - / competitiveedh
Budget Brews - budgetbrews.club/
Tournament Results - www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=cEDH
Combo Database - commanderspellbook.com/
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[@thomasnoonan2039]

Wait, a Play to Win video on not-Sunday? What did I do to deserve this treat?

[@knightofthesun2595]

You’re just way too good looking and they couldn’t resist

[@thomasnoonan2039]

@@knightofthesun2595 hahaha you're too kind, internet stranger :)

[@raalo7136]

Dang they beat me too it. You are an amazing human being.

[@thomasnoonan2039]

@@raalo7136 aww thank you, you too!

[@OGTahoe3]

I always felt the biggest difference between high power edh and cedh is the amount of fast mana and the curve of the total deck

[@almosthonest42]

Just love these dudes, cool,not dweeby haha and seem like genuinely fun dudes to hang with.

[@toctheyounger]

Cam: so that they all end in 1/2 Neurotic me: you're a monster, you monster. Also more of the podcast style content would be great, please and thank you 😁

[@jenniferhawk7714]

What does Cameron know about shoveling mulch???!! 😂😂

[@yannickheres3373]

I learned how important priority is because of your videos. Same for moving phases. I have been playing Rhoda/Timin casually and miss combat triggers when people just "end their turn"

[@deadmau5ification]

Cam said well at the end. Have fun! One of my most favorite things about your channel is how you guys have all the fun loosing too :-)

[@jelly_Mtg]

Great tips. I would say to anyone playing games for the first time, it may be worth mentioning you're new to the format when looking for a game and people will be more than happy to help talk you through the lines. Also, finding a deck you enjoy over the "best" deck in the format, you'll be more likely to play the deck which means your skill level will increase and you'll learn more about the format. Have Fun!

[@mothbag]

I can't tell you how excited I am for the podcasts to make a return. I love your guy's videos and even though I've played cEDH for awhile, I'll gladly relearn how to play to win

[@psoninja]

First time seeing the podcast, love watching the games. I really appreciate the time and effort put into this, thank you.

[@ghost64626]

This was very entertaining and informative. I will absolutely be sharing this with my friend group!

[@avatarofpapermagic]

This is absolutely sick. Been needing a video like this for awhile and for you two to do it makes me cheer with joy. I'm an old school standard player, just got back into it the last two years and never heard of edh or commander until then. I love that I'm learning so much as a 43 year old Aussie, from young Americans about the game I grew up loving. How effing good is Magic the Gathering honestly? Lets go!!!

[@avatarofpapermagic]

Just finished it, great video! Learnt so much, that half a tip extra is probably why 😂

[@TCG9777]

18:00 I was glad to hear this. I often find myself wanting to be experimental with the format and breath new life into some commanders most people would roll their eyes at, since playing with a majority of the commanders is the meta game can become boring. (To me at least...) So, I'll make decklists with these niche commander options, that show great potential should things go right, and when showcasing it at either a local event or even sharing the decklist publicly via social media so get player's thoughts about it, I'm always always always hit with the same corny saying: "I'm not sure this is CEDH viable." While not crippling to say, it does kinda spit in the face of the maker, since I believe CEDH is about playing WHATEVER you want at its peak. Obviously, as you pointed out, there are some booty commander options out there but I find the challenge to be more fun. And if I can win even 1 or 2 games with it, I'd see it as a success and not rely too heavily on what's played in the meta if I could make something unique.

[@TripsAhoy]

I agree! I've been trying hard to make Gaddock Teeg work and I will make it happen! Lol

[@TCG9777]

@@TripsAhoy yeeees! Definitely in my top 5 Selesnya commanders! I wish ya luck!!

[@rafaelkadddoc4000]

great content, im from brazil and here we do have a lot of content by people who live here but i love to see the commander games from your channel, actually thats the first time i see something here more informative and its also amazing, keep going guys!

[@smtyke]

Honestly super helpful & really have appreciated your content as I dive a bit deeper into cEDH as a whole outside of my small meta! (& I'll be directing my friends to this video to try and get them hooked!)

[@RequiemFortheFallen]

Thank you so much for this, i.want to get into cedh every since I found your channel!

[@KamiofTheEastTree]

Great video. Keep up the podcast!

[@joshuajohnson1448]

I’ve recently started getting into cedh, and the biggest thing I’m seeing is the half step. Our format has such a stigma of what the games have to look like it turns so many people off! Once I convinced a few friends to not think about that, and just run some high powered games, I’ve almost got a 4 pod together! Thanks for the content, gonna send this and bring more to the dark side 😂

[@jonathanyoung2771]

I loved this series and it gave me the courage to start going into my LGS with my Kalamax deck even though it's not finished. Thank you for being such a positive force in the community.

[@spacemanmtg]

One thing that you do not see in gameplay is the table discussing the possibility of coming to a draw. The example that is provided in the video regarding a player having to counter a spell just to loose to the next player is a scenario that has come up recently in cEDH events, where the table agrees that a draw is better than attempting a win. If you're playing casual cEDH, this probably doesn't come up often, but in tournament play it's definitely something to consider.

[@salchi-papa]

Yet again, the lads with solid content.

[@BisyBackson365]

I love watching you 2!! Every vid I watch, gets my brew muscles excite!! I fell in love with Jeska because of Play to WIn. Still struggling to build a consistent Temur deck but its gunna happen!!!

[@Goosiez]

Love the content guys. I switched to Canadian Highlander due to not having a good consistent cEDH group but always enjoy watching your guys videos.

[@connorbell5340]

Two minutes in and cam is already doing a It's always sunny in philadelphia episode... Never change.

[@Jordan-dg8tp]

The thing I love the most about these types of talks and mentalities is that cEDH is not "pubstomp the casual decks" and there is a line between high power casual and cEDH. Look at a super optimized casual deck.. The point is to win, likely in a specific fashion, with many ways to get there and somewhat protect it. cEDH is designed to win, as efficiently as possible, in whatever way possible, with as much protection as possible. Stax is ok, counters are fine, MLD is cool, combos and infinite is great. The other thing is proxy legality. In cEDH, you are trying to build a deck, not a wallet battle. You want to fight an idea, not an income.

[@zachw5768]

Always glad too see new content from you guys. You going to magiccon in Philly next month?

[@F1reProof]

Hey everyone, I just started one year ago and I started with COmmander because of my friends. It started all with a budget version of Bloodpod. So I never had real experience in MTG just as far, that I knew what MTG is. Have a greta day

[@duncanwalla7014]

Please make the podcast regular!!!!!!!!

[@aHairyBaboon]

Yay more content to nom on!

[@Hockyman2008]

Would love to hear some videos on highlighting play styles in the format and common cards you might see in each play style

[@toriofthevast]

The goats at it again

[@dantebeleren]

Absolute madlads.

[@GHSTKamiKaze]

19:03 you can print proxies straight from moxfield

[@gabrielseller6434]

On spite plays, generally super agree with you guys (conceding isn't a tactic, one shouldn't take game actions based on "unga bunga you blew up my stuff). However, if my death is on the stack you better believe I'm firing off every piece of interaction I can. I see it the same way as still blocking when a lethal attack is declared. I'm not out of the game until I'm actually dead and I want to make it as painful as possible for someone to finish me off

[@kstandish42]

Babe wake up new Play to Win podcast dropped!

[@SundayBbq4786]

"cEDH is a big, heaping pile of mulch" Love it.

[@Holden_P]

I came twice listening to this 😮

[@James-rf4mp]

Hey, I didn't run chrome mox in my Teshar list! Hahaha. Edit: Your content rocks!

[@mtgtinfoilthaumaturge1102]

Brothers trust me. Rograhk and thrasios winter orb and static orb is the most slept on cedh brew ever. The leverage is that you are able to ensure rograhk is coming in t1 every game. Unlike the polymorph strat I use rograhk for things like guild artisan, relic of legends, Mox amber, cryptolith rites, I do play hullbreaker but I always hard cast it. Most of my deck is insane ramp potential drawn out of non typical ramp cards. My rograhk and thrasios are typically used as mana dorks or in the case of guild artisan as mana generators.

[@DaxVerus]

In a completely silly way, how do you two stay on focus, between Cameron's derailing thought process and Dylan's spiderweb of topics I completely follow you two but surprised you kept the video under an hour :P Love the content, great intro video

[@CandyClam]

Hey, love this video! I'm a natural spike stuck in a casual pod with my family and I'm looking to do my research before I branch out and find some players who are into cEDH. What is your guys' opinion on a Zada list? I know it's a bit outdated, but it seems like a really interesting way to try to win to me

[@ThePossibilityStorm]

"Number 6." "Number 6 1/2!" "Shit. 6 1/2." -- Love the content boys, keep it up!

[@BraxtonMeyer]

OHHHHH that's why the channel is called that , before 8:22 I never would've guessed /j

[@TheMindSculptors]

HEYYYYYY ITS BACK!

[@Extremeoriginal1]

Whenever I feel like I'm falling out of love with EDH, your videos always help pull me out of that nasty feeling. But aside from that, I love Modern! I would love to hear about your experiences in the Modern format, and if y'all still play/watch the format as a whole. What are your opinions on some of the newer MH sets? Thanks for the constant inspiration, can't wait to watch more episodes and gameplay!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

We’re actually recording some modern content today for the channel lol

[@swat6591]

Podcast idea, have an episode talking about cards that you think can be really good if built around correctly but haven't caught on yet. Like pet cards or playstyles that you guys think can be really good. An example is Codie which seemed like kind of a joke card and then was a great turbo deck that could win tournaments.

[@tigersharktcg3971]

Would love to see a korvold deck tech

[@toms1782]

Does your discord have casual mtg or just cEDH? My playgroup might be fizzling for awhile but I like watching cEDH but I’m more of a strong deck casual player, but not combo crazy ~ Love the content keep it up! ❤

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Mainly cEDH but there are definitely some casual games

[@ArcangelStarcraft]

do you guys ever plan on putting games vs patrons on the channel like play to win? could be fun or am i mistaken and yall have done that

[@timhellum5587]

With this video I like to see best starting cedh deck

[@salchi-papa]

Actually, I believe PWP already has a video regarding top decks for new cEDH players! But I would def love to see the P2W opinion on that.

[@mtgtinfoilthaumaturge1102]

Thieving skydiver is the most under rated creature I feel like. Eat someone’s mana crypt or sol ring or Mox amber or whatever. Opponent goes t1 mana crypt mountain najeela. You go t1 mana crypt island thieving skydiver taking control of najeela’s mana crypt. You now have 2 mana crypts for t2. I would also have a rograhk in play on top of the skydiver. And that najeela players win conditon probably got pushed back 2-3 turns.

[@joefuller3886]

😂😂 awsome i tossed out all my preconcived notions of how to play Cedh my 1st thought was it was plaued with Mtg cards, now ima grab my Yugioh and pokeman cards .. time to WIN SOME CCCCCCCEDHHHH 😂😂

[@emmanuelanchia8024]

Please talk about Turbo Naus mechanic

[@ashleydaltonshelton9830]

Yaw should share what cards are close to cedh but not quite there but can be in certain builds

[@xPasternak]

I'm curious, are all your decks proxy?

[@matblack4721]

New Episode idea: Table politics in cEDH and how it’s the same and how it differs to standard EDH. For example you talk about the mentality of playing to win but sometimes you do make deals to help you get to the finish line.

[@Macwood94]

Hey table does this abrupt decay resolve?

[@ccccccccccc3]

Could y'all add in the link to the combo database you mentioned at the end in the other resources? Don't see it in the description, thanks!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Thanks, added, and here it is commanderspellbook.com/

[@skylarmurphy2849]

I'd say some good topics could be the top commanders for each color combo or maybe a deep dive into the different archetypes would be really interesting to watch

[@jellysandjamz250]

I give this video a 7 1/2 out of 7

[@prixivus85]

I have a question on the Kingmaking scenario mentioned. What if, it's a tournament setting, you know that you're going to die, but you can hamper the board in a way so that it can increase the possibility of the game going into a draw instead of a loss for you? Is that ok in CEDH

[@itzDrexzyyy]

I do have a quiestion , why not do spite plays? I get don’t do stuff just because, like the “screw you that’s why” type stuff lol I get don’t do that mid game when you could be saving that land to do stuff to progress yourself in the game, that’s cool, I’m Specifically asking about the second bit you guys said there , like if me losing is on the stack already, then why not do everything I can with whatever lands or instants I have to do something before I’m out? Like in my head I’d see doing stuff like that as “if you’re taking me out then im bringing you down with me” type stuff and that makes sense to me, like they are knocking me out why do I have to just take it lol, Are we not doing it for a reason, or are we just not doing it to be nice and to let that person maintain their chance to win and not take it away from them ? If we are not doing it just to be nice then I don’t get it lol, is that like a competitive integrity professionalism type thing or something? I dunno seems odd to me, like I’m now gonna be out iv lost so why not play everything I can while I’m still in to make the game more mixxy between the other players or make it harder for the person who’s knocked me out to win. I just don’t get why we wouldn’t want to do that. I do get the other part about not wanting to just do it for the sake of it and waste resources while we’re still in the game and not out though.

[@ddurst1]

An exception to fast mana rocks, speaking as a Sythis player, we don't play artifacts

[@matblack4721]

Is this a Stax style of deck or do you build it in another way?

[@ddurst1]

@@matblack4721 yeah pretty much. Uses lot of hatebears we don't care too much about. Wins via layered combo stuff. Either that or slams down an Elesh Norn and moves to combat. Very good at shutting down artifacts among other effects.

[@Lucasmathews]

Sweeeet

[@TripsAhoy]

Step 1 and a half lol.

[@TheMindSculptors]

I think yall said google so many times it stopped having meaning XD

[@davidpipes6805]

cEDM competitive Elder Dragon Mulch

[@cornycorncorn2478]

Can I play my colorless cedh deck on your channel?

[@Kizzet373]

Hey guys! I have a gruul hulk deck I'd really like to showcase. It's been performing incredibly well in high cEDH pods. Let me know if you're interested in checking it out and having me on the show sometime!

[@Kizzet373]

It's actually Erinis + Street Urchin Ruin Hulk😁👌

[@Xeno-MTG]

@@Kizzet373 do you have it on Moxfield? I've been having a lot of fun with my Durnan, Tavern Brawler list, Gruul fringe is fun :D

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

23:51, and how can you see everyone else's board?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

by looking at the computer screen. This was about webcam set ups

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

@@PlaytoWinMTG I don't know of this technology.

[@morgeno4]

FYI your bonfire link might be broken

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Should be fixed now!

[@jcggresswell7284]

So i been almost 30years love the game , just saw this video and makes me think of my local lgs and some surrounding areas , cedh groups who ONLY and strictly follow the meta ,, yet i build a "cedh" deck of my own build and wreck the table and the salt and attitude from cedh players is unbelievable like how dare i think outside the box ... And they preach meta as gospel to new players wich terrible. Video is very informative but id like to add etiquette and don't be afraid to think outside the box . Ps have seen balanced well built commander deck power level 9 or 10 win nine times out of ten at a cedh table .

[@lostingreenbay]

Step 1. Apply for a credit card Step 2. Win games

[@official_uhu]

How stoned were you when recording this video? 😂 on a scale from 1-10

[@shawnbolton8987]

I will say in response to the no scoop, I'm for it completely, I played my friend who was running baby jace turns and I'm doing anje worldgorger....he got into a turn loop that I and no responses for, I said cool, do your thing, I'm going to go change out my laundry, let me know if I'm dead when I get back, turns out I wasn't but still lost...anyways, I'll always let people tell me why I lost, not just throw in the towel

[@Quoteddaily]

Step 1: sell my house

[@bulbasaurappreciator]

Step 0.5: FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT CEDH

[@Hashbrown1682]

As an Inalla player I will not stand by this eminence slander! Since now I have got your attention. Yes eminence is very broken. They should not have given Inalla players that much power.

[@The808andrew808]

Are you guys dating? Lol

[@bethsmith4366]

The Waffle House has found it’s new host

[@LucidDreams024]

🥹 I just love you guys much...