Getting into Gas Planes - Breaking in an Engine

[@boofnoof1602]

TIPS: Always have a wing on when running in an engine, the vibrations from the engine with shake the hell out of the plane and make the glue release from the wood. Another tip is fuel proof your plane before you start flying the aircraft, using only 30 min epoxy and methylated spirits to thin the glue out and brush it on lightly just to cover the wood and let it set over night. for the first few tanks of fuel run the aircraft rich until the engine has properly seated. Also by using an electric starter yes its a lot safer but if you have spent a lot of money on a nice spinner it will continue to put marks on it so I suggest to used a starter stick, with a rubber end so that it doesn't damage your prop and one you start to feel comfortable then you can start using your hand. (Hope this helps some newbies into the hobby) :)

[@ilham7345]

does cordless drill adapter available?

[@rccollin7699]

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[@sillydronevalley539]

Ahhhhhh I was missing the "Hi, I'm Josh and this is Josh"

[@PKMartin]

HI!

[@hobie1613]

Finally a gas video! It's been years!

[@SA-co5sm]

I started this hobby with gas planes. ABSOLUTE FUN.

[@alankouba3556]

please do more around gas planes

[@kennethkustren9381]

GASOLINE ENGINES HAVE ADVANCED HUGELY IN MY 25+ YEARS OF RC interests. SolidState ignitions, EVERY ENGINE BLOCK ever, and ..... GPS A.I. UAV POV RC.... IN ONE AIRFRAME !!

[@kennethkustren9381]

I could tell you about a local effort.... high altitude BALLOONING... UAV -ish

[@didierneeferc]

Amazig finally some gas! I have been flying gas/glow for 10 years over the 14 years i have flown in total! (Almost 21 years old now) Love you guys!

[@Skydive4ever]

I missed the good 'ol tutorial videos, vlogs are ok, but i miss the old format.

[@MCsCreations]

Skydive4ever Me too.

[@bnvi1215]

Me too

[@KouriEien]

Oh yes.

[@rcbif101]

Yes, this! Just not as informative or to the point anymore.

[@DerHeizmeister]

Indeed. I was quite delighted when they even gave the specs of an aircraft in metric and imperial units a long time ago. It seems that usefull information and technical details have given way to sensationalism and lifestyle... quite a shame.

[@omary5439]

this is the first flight test video I watched since around 2014, since you guys started getting heavy into quadcopters around that time and that's not really what I'm about. awesome video and it's really great to see both Joshs haha.

[@flyboywbl]

Omg I miss this content. Just bought the Ultra Stick 30cc

[@glennbenton7158]

Looking forward to seeing more on gas engines. I have used glow for years, however keen to get into gas for some of the big scale aircraft.

[@miklosko3355]

In Europe it's called Two stroke engine not Two cycle :) Anyway not important. What's important is that the plane is big,looks cool, looking awesome e in the air and the most important thing is: It sounds soooo Awesome! And the warbirds with 4 stroke engines are breath taking and goose bumps giving because they sound so realistic and when they do low pass fly by.... I forget to breath... :D Awesome job guys! Can't wait for more ;). Thank you!

[@gavinl.7993]

Haha! You read my mind! I was just thinking about getting into gas planes today and how you would need to care for the engine, and I thought it would be really convenient if Flite Test would put up a video about getting started with it, since I learn most of what I need to know from them. Get out of my head! 😂

[@olliea6052]

Good video guys! If a person is trying out gassers, they need to view the engine work needed before flying as a complete package. Take time to get each step right and as Josh said; don't skip any steps. All worth it in the end. I have two nitro planes in the shed that a neighbour gave me because his eyesight deteriorated. Have yet to fly them because procrastination. And a lack of runway. Excuses excuses!

[@neilorourke3257]

What a breath of fresh air this episode was! Looking forward to more about gas planes.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

And so it begins, Beginner series for running i.c. I literally have zero funds for such a level at the moment but I am still excited to learn!

[@pesterenan]

It's so much simple in Portuguese. We only have "motor" for the two types of "motors" that you showed ^^

[@MCsCreations]

Pesterenan Verdade. 😊

[@orppranator5230]

Pesterenan Simpler but less specific.

[@FLYINGLIFERCREVIEWS]

I'm so excited for a beginner series on gas!!! . How about a package from flight test store, every thing we need to build one with all the steps !!!

[@sebastianlorant6502]

Please! I'm quite sure I will be purchasing a Hangar 9 Meridian 60 and that's over the discontinued Great Planes Big Stik 60

[@brandendavis6369]

Finally! I have been waiting for years for this

[@ggabrao02]

Hi Guys, big fan. I have been flying glow and gas for quite some time and I truly love it. In my club we often do glow racing with members flying the same model of planes, 2 at the time and the only rule is that the plane can not be modded and the engine has to be below .46. Always a good time.

[@gorace71]

Great to see the josh and josh show back in town. Love the gas and electric

[@bepowerification]

the benefits of gassers are the sound and the smell! and the satisfaction flying an internal combustion engine on an RC plane gives you.

[@robinhood5448]

YOU MADE A HOBBY INTO PASSION

[@devinkavak1836]

Flite fest south!!! You even put it in the vid! We need it again!

[@tiberiu_nicolae]

Josh and Josh! Like in the good old days!

[@thedude7726]

as a certified small engine mechanic , please do NOT use marine grade two cycle oil. it has ammonium blended in it. this WILL cause carburetor and fuel line issues.

[@rabbitfootedkitty1339]

Stupid people. Also what should be used, something like Caster927?

[@hardtop123]

YES!!!....im also a qualified small engine mechanic...36 years in the trade....DEFINITELY DO NOT use outboard 2 stroke oil in an air cooled engine......outboard oil is not designed for the heat created by an air cooled engine....it will carbon an air cooled engine up really quick...been there seen this happen time after time when its been used in a chainsaw or brushcutter

[@Rcguy2591]

@@hardtop123 also needs to be ethanol free gas

[@hateeternalmaver]

That motor/engine thing was eye opening, especially for a non-native speaker. Thanks guys. Also, such a classic episode. I really enjoyed it.

[@BlokHed75]

JOSH IS BACK!!!!!!

[@3DMOFO2020]

Wonderful job on the video plus its great to see the 2 ''Josh's'' again lol

[@1rappyman]

Great to see another gas episode after the Roadrunner one a few years back. I love flying electrics and gas motor planes & have shelved the nitro planes (long drive to get nitro fuel for me). Gas is cheap to operate, almost never needs any tuning work on the carb needles after being setup, not any cleanup like nitro & can pull around a big plane like nothing. They have been super reliable and easy to start. I would avoid running a plane much without the wings on - it shakes the fuse pretty good. I've done air break-ins, but check the manual - if it says a ground break-in is needed, they will know best.

[@slyburner123]

Make Flite Test Great Again, with this kind of videos!

[@averagemodeler]

I hope more tutorials like this are coming from the two josh's. I have three big balsa planes with four gas and nitro engines I got from a friend getting out of the hobby.

[@oscarzt1652]

I am SO envious of you having that plane. I want one

[@organgrind]

Well done guys, I'm just this year heading into gas myself, very helpful.

[@donaldasayers]

Started on Diesel, never could get the buggers started. Hated glow engines, now into electric, and petrol/gas ignition engines. At least I understand those. Now all I have to do is build a plane big enough for my Honda weedwacker/strimmer engine. Running in/break in can be done at any time in the engine's life (If you or the previous owner forgot) and is much easier on a test stand than mounted in the plane.

[@LeadElement]

Build a gas quadcopter please! Best way would probably be single engine and collective pitch, but a quad engine would sure be a sight to behold!

[@brucetenhave6952]

Great to see gas back on the show. Looking foward to more gas vids!

[@uselessaccount196]

Finally...my wish came true.thnx FT you guys are the best.GOD BE WITH YOU......

[@punkgunzzyoutube7728]

The hair looks WAY BETTER. And the scuff on the chin. You literally transformed.

[@Smarnca]

Does this mean Flite Test will do electric and gas powered models from now on? Awesome!

[@rabbitfootedkitty1339]

You should always run after run oil no matter gas or nitro plane or car, or even a boat. Well, maybe not for gas cars all the time, but definitely for long-term storage. 3:58 What the heck? Outboard 2 stroke oil? I would stay away from that and use something like Caster927 by Maxima, Benol by Klotz, Dominator by Amsoil or some other high quality 2 stroke oil, at least for gas rc, and nitro rc, if you're cool enough to make your own nitro fuel. Maybe there is something else that should be used because i'm not into planes as much and they may require some other formula for the type of engine that they are, but 2 stroke marine oil doesn't seem right lol. Also, a separate battery for the ignition system? No magneto/coil? That's kind of sad :P.

[@MrJJandJim]

Cool vid, guys! By the way, I have a challenge for you guys! I mentioned it before. (I think it was on the crash compilation.) Take an airplane, equip it with a very strong motor, then remove the main wings and try to fly it using the rear end to control it. It cannot be a flying wing or a nutball, just a normal airplane. You can then make any modifications to help you control it and/or stabilize it, but no wings for lift! You can add multiple engines if you want!

[@1976axerhand]

I always break in the air. Keeps them cooler and doesn't put a lot of stress on the airframe. Never had an issue in 10 yrs of flying gas.

[@av8153]

I imagine many of your viewers are electric park flyers . If you guys do a follow up video , you may want to mention that gassers are not usually recommended for park flying .... or soccer-field/softball-field/etc . And also let viewers know : as well as 2 stroke engines , there are 4 stroke engines available .

[@pipsqeak7104]

I just was given a free flow engine plane 25 years old about, where should I fly it? If not at a field I dont understand.

[@av8153]

@@pipsqeak7104 At an RC club field ( ask what is required to fly there ) , or on private land with permission .

[@pipsqeak7104]

@@av8153 thank you! I was not expecting an answer from a 2 year old comment, but it is very appreciated. That's makes sense.

[@HaywardFamilybuilding]

Josh is Back!!!!

[@oliverw782]

Gas is here!! YAAAIIII!

[@danielharman4437]

Omg perfect video. I’ve been wondering about gas for so long

[@sr175]

Cool great to see gas! Read your manual as they will recommend how to break in but it's usually while flying not tied down. But it depends.

[@adithyafpv]

Which is the simulator you suggest for a beginner to able to fly and land engine RC plane

[@mark675]

At last something that isnt quadcopters 🙌👏

[@lilbigmike8945]

I found a full complete gasser in someones garbage a few months back. I dont have a manual for it! Where should I start to get it running again?

[@ColeAviation]

You don’t always want to run the “Engine” with out the wings on it because the vibration from the engine can cause the glue joints on the plane to break lose.

[@FlyersDistrict]

Chad Cole rubber mounted help a lot with that and a well balanced prop 👍

[@ColeAviation]

Flyers District - Yes sir I understand that but it’s still not good on the airframe. 😉👍🏼

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Do most modern air frames rely that heavily on the wings for structural soundness?

[@FlyersDistrict]

Chad Cole That’s true. But it’s ok, all airplanes are like milk... go ahead, ask 😁

[@Rcvliegen]

That's true, try that with a four stroke engine, or better a four stroke boxer. You will have a pile of parts in a bag (the shrink foil) you can reassemble to a plane again. If the fuselage gets in resonance there is no stopping. The wings will have a kind of anti vibration to the fuselage. Just the mass and inertia will help against the vibrations in the fuselage. You will learn this when you play with larger model planes. Just idling can break the fuselage.

[@krolltheknight]

Real good commentary bois. G

[@errorgd]

just when I started thinking about it. love you guys

[@brettlockhart1465]

Great video guys good to see a gasser please do a lot more gas and glow!

[@sut2910]

Great advice! I think the typical gas engines don't require as much break-in as glow engines, but the key _is_ the lubrication. Look at the weed whackers, where the history is -fill it up and go. I don't use ethanol gas any longer in my small engines, mowers, etc., now that I can get ethanol-free at the local gas station. No more issues with moisture, green gummed up bio-remnants, and clogged carbs.

[@BigAlFPV17]

Excellent tips Josh & Josh!!

[@mladtheimpaler]

I've been waiting for this!

[@dmartinnj]

Yay! It about time you introduced gas/glow flight...

[@sebastianlorant6502]

So I'm very sure I'm going to purchase the Hangar 9 Meridian 60 over the Ultra Stick. From the reviews I have heard over the Ultrastick was the poor build quality out of factory (i.e. the aielerons dont have a flush finish to the wings due to the hinge insertions not being centered). I would greatly appreciate insight to this as all reviews I'm able to find are from 2015 or older, and finding glow/gas planes is not nearly as simple as it was 5 to 10 years ago. I had originally flown the Big stick 60 and that was my original choice however they were discontinued.

[@urmilajoshi8050]

Please make a video on different gas planes such as the one used in this video and my personal favorite the sukhoi su-26 form hobbyking. Anyways great work as always!

[@elijahf111]

I've been waiting... That's a cool frickin plane

[@derjoh1986]

Wow, look at this! The original dual that started it all! Nice! Lol

[@arleysimpson3678]

Josh Scott's back?!?!? Bring back Peter and David, too!!!

[@razetedgy3963]

Finally some real RC planes

[@Bandare]

I was even more excited from the title saying GAS. I was wondering propane, butane or what? Then I realised you just meant fuel, or in the US,gas! hahaha

[@wamplertube]

With gas you have to earn it! LOL keep up the great work boys!

[@MrRCmania7]

You should leave the wings on for break in to let the vibrations escape better so you dont shake the firewall off

[@MoiraOBrien]

welcome back Josh Scott

[@kmarshall100]

Hey fellas! I’ve been watching your videos since days of the eflite Taylorcraft! Love that lil bird. Was curious...when are you guys gonna do an actual flying video of this plane?? Keep the awesome videos up!

[@amen_ra6926]

Ah the memories of cleaning fuel residue of the fuselage and wings. Storing rubber bands that held the wings down in jars of cat litter. Tweaking the needle valve and being careful not to slice your fingers off.

[@josepherickson7618]

Super awesome video love the video 👌👌👌💪💪💪👍👍👍👍

[@blue2sco]

And you should always do this on a test rig first and not a model. And if you do a engine run in a model ALWAYS fit the wings, it gives you a hand hold, it can hit against your pit box if it moves forward giving you extra protection.

[@peanutbutterisfu]

Honestly electric is the best way to go, battery technology is so much better now, no worries about the engine stalling, no fuel to buy, the only problem you really will have is if you crash it. But there’s something about having a real engine lol. Definitely right about breaking in the engines. My .70 magnum xl 4 stroke ran absolutely terrible before I broke it in. They aren’t like a lawnmower or a car engine where they run great during the break in period. I really couldn’t believe how different it ran after running a few tanks of fuel in it. The next engine I buy I will just make an engine stand and break it in on that before even putting it in the plane.

[@fabianplacek8582]

Hey guys. If i was you i would not programm the failsave to cut the throttle and turn the engine off , cause if you have signal problems the engine turns off and if you connect again in the air (all this in a few seconds) your engine is turned off = Dead Stick . After that you all will think of , why the engine stopped.

[@jordyb323]

I just bought a 2m Edge petrol, and this is perfect. you guys should help me with my fuel system, as the older guys at the club all gave me different opinions on how to set up the fuel system ( lines, overflow, carby, and bleeder) help would be much appreciated

[@MsShaunaM]

Running at reduced power while on the ground is also true for full scale aircraft. The runup and magneto check happens at less than full throttle and is only supposed to last a moment to keep from overheating the engine.

[@FlyGuyF119]

Nice to see y'all showing some 2stoke/ balsa stuff! This is where I wish the hobby stayed in some ways. Electric is cool but makes the care factor go down. Since if you crash a foamie you just go "well dang man guess I'll just hot glue it back together" With balsa aircraft there's so much more care that's needed. Between building the plane over a couple of months or years, ensuring everything is done right, inspecting the plane before every flight, ensuring the engine is tuned right. Because if you lose that plane for what every reason now you have time invested and cant just get a hot glue gun to fix it. Think it teaches children that get into the hobby a different level of respect for the craftsmanship of the plane and how to respect it. Not to bash the electric stuff but between electric planes and the drone stuff I think it has 100% hurt the hobby in several ways.

[@ryanewbank9271]

I agree..one video i seen was a spot at the flying field where they burned crashed planes. Another symptom of out "throw away society". Really sad.

[@alexdavidsantiago3955]

Yeessss I was waiting this!!! Thanks for your help

[@FPV-wi8fw]

Gas planes are the best 😁

[@iraqi1447]

Hello, what is the length and width of the wing? How long is the plane?

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Gas is great because it has high energy density. Electric is accessible for beginners

[@flat-earther]

I thought it's high energy density

[@mrbadx19]

my first was a gasser that flew on a control line, you went round in circles and controlled it with 2 strings and a handle. mostly you got dizzy flying the damned thing.

[@PropaneTreeFiddy]

Desert Aircraft engine break-in procedure: fly the plane :)

[@SimeonSolarsky]

Propane TreeFiddy absolute got the DA150 comes broken in by factory

[@michaelsell6928]

Yesssssss!!!!!! It’s gasser time!!!

[@victorrisk6098]

I really like info on gas engines! Thanks!!!

[@reggie3h694]

Can you put out the Ultra Stick review out soon please?

[@kotasekaviation5031]

Finally I can get a gas engine on all my bare balsa thrift shop finds.

[@guerrillaradio9953]

My carbon reno air racer is getting a 500cc inline twin. That's a big gas engine.

[@martyrayh.2976]

Started with balsa. paper and dope. cox .049, control line in the late 60's!

[@Blackstarr223]

If you get into bigger sized gas engines, starter motors are not an option.. Cheaply anyway. Although hand starting with gloves are recommended, (Imo especially with carbon props with a sharp trailing edge), I don't find many people who use gloves anyway. ;P

[@boofnoof1602]

Yeah good point, They only use electric starters for safety crap haha, when starting my 120cc extra just keep 3 fingers on the face of the prop and that way if it back fires your fingers aren't in the line of fire. smaller ones just give it a flick backwards and starts right up haha. :)

[@PlaneButcher]

What did you use to get the sticky gas residue off the plane?

[@flyboywbl]

I wish you did more balsa building and gas airplane content

[@supercobrapro7470]

Is the pulling force same if we go vertical?

[@elijahf111]

hey remember "hi welcome to flitetest, we are the joshes..."

[@rabbitfootedkitty1339]

4:30 Yeah right, if a manual suggests a certain brand, it is definitely going to be because of sponsorship or some sort of a deal. Just use something high quality at a good ratio like 20-30:1 or something.

[@icin4d]

This video is a over a year old. Has this plane ever been flown? I'm putting a DLE 35RA in my Ultra Stick.

[@alanboston5811]

So what do you do about these carbs that have no mixture screws ?

[@brodyjohnston9115]

Love the vids!

[@Rcguy2591]

And we never saw this plane in a video ever again…