GGD Routing in Reaper (OKW / Modern & Massive kits)

[@OrangeMicMusic]

@4:05 thanks for this tip. Reverb goes on track one automatically The most important thing about setting this up. It saved lots of neurons in my brain, as I couldn't figure out this one by myself for days

[@elibirguitar]

Finally a good tutorial on this :) The reverb on track one thing was driving me insane..

[@ampspedalspickups]

Haha makes no sense hey, good you got there!

[@b.gallucci7186]

This video helped a ton! Thank you for your hard work! The only thing I'd add, is for Modern & Massive, you didn't mention how to set the tracks in Reaper to the tracks in Kontakt. For anyone wondering, just right click VST3i: Kontakt in the FX list, and then click 'Build multichannel routing for output of selected FX...'

[@Cestariarts]

OH MY GOOOOD!!!! You figured out the fucking reverb problem!!! YOURE A GENIUS! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[@ampspedalspickups]

Hahahaha how crazy is the routing on it

[@aacgoudie3642]

I feel like I'm behind immediately at 1:40. I have no mixer. Now before I can continue, I have to find a video on how to find the mixer.

[@ampspedalspickups]

Someone else had this problem. I dunno how you installed everything but I’d recommend deleting kontakt and native access (if you have it installed) Install native access from scratch, then kontak7 from there. If the mixer isn’t there by default then there’s a menu option to bring it up. Kontakt can have a bad install and not show the mixer or the mixer could be broken from a bad install. Best to just start fresh from native access. If you get stuck join the discord server and someone can help you get it all going 💪

[@TheBlackSpiral]

I didn't have the mixer and still don't after reinstallin everything from scratch. But I suddenly noticed / realized, that as soon as Reaper was running, no other program was making sound. I did a bit of Googling and found that I had to go into the preferences and change the audio device settings to WASAPI / shared.

[@ryvnoxford]

@@TheBlackSpiral After playing around with this for a little bit, I found the option for the Mixer in Kontakt 7. Up the top, click View then select Rack View. Then click View again, and click Outputs. You can turn off the Keyboard and a few other UI settings here too. Hope this helps! PS: My audio device settings are set to ASIO with my interface selected.

[@robertenglert624]

Awesome thanks! Straight to the point

[@Therion0184]

In the Kontakt Mixer when I selected Multi Out Adv I didn't get all the multiple outputs. Just the same 5 that are there from the beginning.

[@ampspedalspickups]

Theres a few things it could be, might be easier to join the discord and share some screenshots - discord.gg/bpKD4XB6GM

[@aldendunne]

same problem did you find the fix

[@tziizuz]

Any ideas when i load my one kit wonder metal vst, open it, there is no outputs on below the kit like you have, i can't change any of the outputs because it won't show any...

[@adamskaggs4494]

Bro… this is hella valuable to me. I have M&M and just got the Matt Halpern PV kit. Help a brother out! Can you do a video with the new kit? It uses Kontakt Player 7. I’m losing my mind on the routing. 😂

[@ampspedalspickups]

It should be identical honestly. Join my discord server if you need a hand someone can help out!

[@giscardrasquin4793]

Great video man

[@anthonyhernandez9308]

Thank you for the video, I'm stuck, please anyone. So i've downloaded Native and Kontakt and my GGD software. But when I right click to select "Insert Virtual Instrument", Kontakt does not show up. I'm not sure what I need to do. Thank you for your time.

[@ampspedalspickups]

If everything is installed into the default folders it should pick it up but if you installed it into some custom folder then you need to tell reaper to look at more folders to scan for vst / vst-I stuff If you just did a default install and it’s not showing up then might need to dig a little deeper, I’ve got a link to my discord in the vid description if you need a hand then joining there is prob best Good luck!

[@anthonyhernandez9308]

thank you for the reply! i got it figured out and i can use kontakt in "Insert Virtual Instrument. Now the issue im running into is there's no mixing table underneath the drumkit. thanks for your time!@@ampspedalspickups

[@alexdinky]

man, thank you!

[@RobWarmuth]

Is That a rendition of Robert Miles - Children in the background? if so, sweet! lol

[@hcrozee]

None of this is working for me at all and I'm doing exactly everything as you've said it

[@ampspedalspickups]

Join the discord server if you need a hand, could be a bunch of things it’s hard to say

[@DouglasMelchiades]

Thanks a lot mate Great video, Sub!

[@ampspedalspickups]

Welcome!

[@stonemileryan]

Great vid mate, just a quick question. Some people have said when you route to separate tracks on OKW, you lose the Parallel and Master EQ settings built in. Is this correct?

[@ampspedalspickups]

Never actually heard this. Would be kinda weird but also a possibility, not sure. Never really noticed a night and day jump so I reckon it's either not happening or it's pretty un-noticeable. Wouldn't get too hung up on it :)

[@ericthemaestro]

you the man

[@ampspedalspickups]

Glad it helped!

[@IcarusNadir]

Bro this is such a good video man, you helped me so much! One question though, I see that you have one channel each per kick/snare/tom, but for me it's giving outputs to 2 channels, so i have 2 tracks for each St. output, is there a way to reduce it to 1?

[@ampspedalspickups]

Thats super weird, try this that I posted for someone else. It's a bit of a reset button for kontakt outputs if they're doubling up or doing weird things: (Alternatively you could just delete the doubles but its annoying its happening in the first place) ------------------ In kontakt under the GGD kit there's a section with "Outputs". Next to it there's "Presets / Batch Configuration". Click on Preset/Batch and the last option is Reset Output Section. That should default you with st.1 --> st.16. If you need more for Modern and Massive or other kits then just hit the + next to Outputs. "Number of Channels" leave as 2 (stereo), then just change "Quantity" to whatever you want, 20/24 etc etc.

[@nickharriskpop]

I'm having the same problem. Did you find a solution?

[@m3m3sis]

Can't you also save the prerouted group of tracks as a track template if you put the og kontakt track as the master folder? So that instead of a whole project template to laäoad, you can just pull the track template for each drumkit you have and plug n play with all the naming and routing already done?

[@m3m3sis]

anyone else have the issue that after routing, i can't hear anything else besides kick and snare? or could it be that I've routed all the drum and cymbal overheads and rooms to sum channels? Otherwise reaper is suprisingly easy, just a lot of small things to remember.

[@GazzaniSilva]

I've watched so many videos, each one explains it in a different way.. and even then I can't reach a satisfactory result. Thanks for the video and explanation but could you share this template? (OKW)

[@ampspedalspickups]

Ah man it seems to easy to me now but I guess I do it all the time. I'll make a template tomorrow and chuck a dropbox link here. I'll shoot you another comment when its done :)

[@GazzaniSilva]

@@ampspedalspickups I watched again your video and some others and I got a good result ... but if possible make the template for other people, thank you very much and I already subscribed to your channel

[@joshlikestolift7602]

Mine is doing the problem others seems to have as well, Reaper prompting me to add Mono tracks and splitting each stereo from Kontakt into 2 Monos in Reaper. Any ideas?

[@ampspedalspickups]

If you use Discord jump onto the server and we can help you out. Worst case I have some templates there ready to go discord.gg/bpKD4XB6GM

[@joshlikestolift7602]

@@ampspedalspickups Thanks for the reply! I managed to set it up by just creating my own tracks and routing from the routing menu. However, I had to use standard multi out rather than multi out adv. Any idea on what the difference between these are?

[@ampspedalspickups]

@@joshlikestolift7602 Not sure, if theyre all coming out to the tracks then you should be sorted. Maybe the multi adv routing made more sense for the bigger kits like invasion and they kept the name for all of it. Oh well, if it works now it works, awesome.

[@koypi5051]

i follow everything you did in the video and whenever i do it the whole kit turns stereo and the ggd output has 2 tracks for 1 mic, pls help.

[@ampspedalspickups]

Sounds weird man, join the discord and see if we can help out - discord.gg/hYJ2jgS4tt

[@koypi5051]

@@ampspedalspickups hey man, can you send another invite?

[@koypi5051]

i just found the problem. the "Build Routing Configuration" pop up when you insert GGD as "Virtual instrument on new track" the First 4 was supposed to say Stereo 1-> New Track Stereo 2-> New Track Stereo 3-> New Track Stereo 4-> New Track but mine says Mono 1-> New Track Mono 2-> New Track Mono 3-> New Track Mono 4-> New Track any idea how to fix?

[@ampspedalspickups]

@@koypi5051 discord.gg/bpKD4XB6GM Jump into Discord and we can take a look, will be a lot easier!

[@ITSplasticfork]

ok im having issues with the routing in kontakt, i do it exactly as you do in the video but my reaper loads aux 1 2 3 and 4 after st.1 and then kontakt does the same and it seems like the routing is messing up somewhere? do you have a default preset file for your kontakt? because I noticed you already had all your channels made there first. my kontakt only starts with st1 and then aux 1 2 3 and 4???

[@ampspedalspickups]

Hmm sounds weird. In kontakt under the GGD kit there's a section with "Outputs". Next to it there's "Presets / Batch Configuration". Click on Preset/Batch and the last option is Reset Output Section. That should default you with st.1 --> st.16. If you need more for Modern and Massive or other kits then just hit the + next to Outputs. "Number of Channels" leave as 2 (stereo), then just change "Quantity" to whatever you want, 20/24 etc etc. If you hit complete rock bottom I'd just delete Kontakt and try a fresh install and hope it comes with default settings.

[@ITSplasticfork]

@@ampspedalspickups I found that luckily and it's exactly what I needed ty! I still had to do some manual routing in the reaper tracks but it worked out

[@ampspedalspickups]

@@ITSplasticfork Yeah sick, it can be a massive hassle haha.

[@dvlsg9709]

@@ampspedalspickups Resetting my outputs sets it back to st. 1, aux 1, aux 2, aux 3, and aux 4, for what it's worth. With a more-or-less fresh install of both Reaper and Kontakt player 7.

[@ampspedalspickups]

@@dvlsg9709 yeah I’ve seen it do different things by default, weird. Once you set it, it shouldn’t change though. Worst case just change again, channels to 2, quantity to like 16, good to go on a restart

[@guybowcombe8744]

Hey mate, I’ve got all my kit set up as a nice template… how do I actually lay some drums down? I used to add a midi item and use the mouse to click my drums in using KVLT before, but it’s not the same with GGD?

[@ampspedalspickups]

Theres a few ways to do it but sounds like you wanna draw in the drums. Hold ctrl and drag out an empty midi track on the timeline, then double click into it to edit it and start dropping in midi notes on the grid!

[@user-mu1bm2uw8g]

what skin for reaper is that?

[@ampspedalspickups]

Just had a look and its "smooth_6_windows". Whenever I see reaper without this skin it just looks weird now, great stuff

[@user-mu1bm2uw8g]

@@ampspedalspickups thanks!

[@bilnovais]

After that, how do I convert midi to audio on separate tracks?

[@ampspedalspickups]

If you have it routed like mine and youre seeing the audio across multiple channels then youre in a good spot. If youre seeing the audio while the drums play then you just need to render the audio down. Right click on the midi track and you should see something like "Apply track FX as new take". That will run the midi through your plugin chain and chuck the rendered wave onto the track There's a few options for rendering stuff down, if you want to dive into how that all works then check out some reaper videos but what I've said is the basics to get you going. Reaper is pretty handy cause I might like a different workflow to you and you can pretty much get it going how you like.

[@mattbryant2447]

I can’t find the output section this is really pissing me of

[@mattbryant2447]

I found the out put section but when selecting the channels 1/2 3-4 etc i only get two please help

[@ampspedalspickups]

Join the discord server, it will be easier to get you sorted discord.gg/bpKD4XB6GM

[@lecksofthebyr]

Do you have a template to download? I'm getting slightly different results. Thank you

[@ampspedalspickups]

The whole point was to get away from using templates and just getting it up and running yourself! If you join the discord server someone can probably help you out to get up and running - discord.gg/bpKD4XB6GM

[@lecksofthebyr]

@@ampspedalspickups Sure, that's what I wanted to do but when I try to play a groove outside of M&M I have no sound. If I click around on the set I can hear everything. Wasn't sure what I missed considering I don't have this problem with Modern Fusion.

[@ampspedalspickups]

@@lecksofthebyr That sounds to me like the midi notes on the track arent "firing" properly. At the top of the Kontakt GUI there's a little "i" symbol, click that and it will give you some different options. You want to set the midi channels in kontakt to "omni". Midi can run across different channels and midi instruments can listen to midi notes on specific channels (1/2/3/4 etc) or they can listen to everything (omni). So setting Kontakt to Omni will make sure that your midi notes are firing correctly to kontakt. Without seeing your settings im just taking a guess but this seems to be the most likely thing. I hate to keep saying join discord but if you get stuck it'll be easier if you join and paste screenshots, good luck!

[@blackrose_ryan]

where are the stereo tracks in reaper coming from, because I only have one showing up along with the 4 aux tracks. (I did the multi out adv in Kontakt and it added the extra tracks, but only in the mixer)

[@ampspedalspickups]

Hard to diagnose where yours is at. If you want join the discord and share some screenshots, someone will be able to help you out. More than likely you just need to reset the kontakt outputs then start a new reaper session and it will be fine, but hard to say without seeing it

[@nathanrelph3523]

Ok so I rerouted everything, but its still all coming out on one channel =/

[@ampspedalspickups]

Weird, did you set GGD to “multi adv out”?

[@joshtsavo7154]

Ok got to this point, I previously have all our band tracks recorded with an electronic kit, mapped the kit to match MT Power Drums. Now want to change all the drum sounds to the One Kit Metal kit, how is the easiest way to convert the midi file to work with GGD?

[@ampspedalspickups]

There are midi converters but they work with varying success. Honestly if it’s just one or two midis just move them manually. If this was a common workflow for you I’d say have a look at making a midi map inside of ggd to map to mt power drum, but if it’s a one off just move the notes, should take like 3 minutes

[@joshtsavo7154]

@@ampspedalspickups so I tried that actually, copied in one of the drum loops from ggd into reaper using kontakt. Mind you in kontakt itself I can hear all the drums, and the loops, so when I opened the midi with the ggd bit, the kick was on line 2. Tried repeating that by deleting the line of kicks from the programmed line, and replaced with my kicks, nothing. Can't get anything I put on there to register, only whats preprogrammed. Am I missing a stupid setting?

[@joshtsavo7154]

At this point I'm just getting ggd to upgrade the sound of the drum tracks already done

[@ampspedalspickups]

@@joshtsavo7154 if the midi is on there and its not firing then I'd say kontakt is not set to "Omni". It's up the top buried somewhere. Midi files have "channels" associated to them so you can theoretically have like 5 keybords each on a single channel and the plugins can read channel1/2/3/4/5 etc. Kontakt reads channel1 by default but the midi file might be set to channel2. Setting Kontakt/GGD to "Omni" lets it read all channels. Alternatively if you click on the midi in your DAW and force it to channel1 it'll do the same thing, but yeah try omni next time.