Ghost of Yōtei is NOT What We Expected... But is that so bad?

[@ItsLazBoi]

I'm confused if people are actually watching the video or not, I do not think changing things up and start fresh is bad. The game isn't what we expected, but that might be a good thing. I present some concerns, but I also go on to explore why feeling disappointed is maybe missing the point and a way changing things up and starting fresh might give more depth to the idea of Ghost narratively. I'm not sure why people are mad. I think this could be quite a good move, I'm unsure where people are getting the idea I'm unhappy from. The only real issue I bring up is that if this is completely disconnected it could feel a little silly but I doubt that will be the case, I have to assume the events of the first game have consequence here, the ripple effect started by Jin echo into that becomes this game's story, at least that's what I would assume.

[@playeroftherules1640]

Don’t worry I’m not mad and I watched the video big Gamer 🙏👍

[@xaviermitchell578]

@@Random--NPC The mother of L takes

[@davida7278]

Nah, a female ronin sounds so stupid... I won't support it.. ever

[@Jake_The_Snek36]

What choices or events that happened in the first game should or would effect this game? It's 350 or so years later and a completely separate event.

[@10dev785]

There is nothing surprising about this!!!! What are you on about??? Its another girl BOSS!!!!!.......of course they would do this. Shadows will be better

[@omerali580]

I remember when it was revealed in RDR2 that we were playing as some guy named Arthur Morgan and not John Marston and there were a lot of people bummed about not playing as John. And then the game came out and everyone knows the story. Not saying Ghost of Yotei will have the same writing as RDR2 but don't count out the new protagonist.

[@Emanthebald]

Not a great comparison. RDR2 isn't set in the year 2300, hundreds of years removed from the original. John is at least in RDR2 and he's still a playable character at a certain point

[@omerali580]

@@Emanthebald In the early stages of RDR2's reveal, none of us knew John was gonna be in the game.

[@Emanthebald]

@@omerali580 So what? As if people should assume there’s a chance Jin became immortal and is around hundreds of years later

[@ismaelbouissef4436]

Have faith in sucker punch people for gods sake

[@suavemente571]

⁠@@omerali580yeah but this is different. Based on the time period you KNOW Jin can’t logically be in the game because it takes place hundreds of years later..

[@izumolee6714]

Jin's story was done by the end of Tsushima. Remember the game literally told us that Jin Sakai is 'dead', only the Ghost remains. This is what Sucker Punch is doing with the franchise as it's not about a specific character it's about the title of the Ghost and that legend and legacy can be passed down to anyone at anytime. It's the exact same reason it's not called Ghost of Tsushima 2, they can take this franchise anywhere they literally want now. Who's to say the legend of Jin Sakai won't be in the game, imagine walking around and having NPC or items documenting him, or having a quest line to get his ghost armor & the Sakai Katana. I think that would be cool seeing Jin's legacy through another POV.

[@anteupbeats]

No the expectation was the shogun after Jin in the mainland along with the 2nd mongol invasion.

[@izumolee6714]

@@anteupbeats Then you are literally playing the same game as the original. The time frame & setting of the new game is very important. Hokkaido in the 1600s is what the equivalent of the Wild West in the US in comparison, hence the very western feel & tone. There are no samurai or any government there and was a very law-less place. Having our protagonist as a lone 'wolf' probably seeking revenge is quite Kill Bill-ish is how i think the story will play out.

[@leinadneyugn1132]

@@izumolee6714i think the ”ghost” is more than a mantel and that Jin litrally died on komoda beach but got resurrected. To back up my theory is that in the song ”the way of the ghost” the singer sings ”take back our land, oh, the revenant”. Some even translated ”the on who got resurrected”. This can also be some sort of metaphor of course.

[@Dimelo.R]

@@anteupbeatsthat’s unoriginal and uncreative asf. You already did that the first game.

[@americasteam2112]

Plus the DLC finishes his story.

[@Marbeary]

One JP youtube noted this feels like a revenge story (kill bill) and wanted poster said a Bounty Hunter. Knowing sucker punch GoT is influence with Kurusawa movies. He also noted this is also feel like a princess mononoke vibe with the wolf and female protagonist.

[@ZeroXSEED]

She had yellow Hakama. It's 100% kill bill allusion with wild west storytelling.

[@ParadoxDesmond]

They really saw the assassins creed comparisons and said bet

[@JadedKid47]

The Atsu trilogy is gonna be a classic for sure

[@legendofrob84]

And literally made the same game with the same weapons. Bro come on.

[@Rounderyathecruel]

@@legendofrob84how is it the same game? Just in the trailer alone we’ve seen huge leaps

[@ERARonin]

​@legendofrob84 she isn't even using similar weapons 🙄; Kusari kama (chained sickle), Muskets, and even a double sword fencing skills!!! You gotta check your eyes, Kid!!!*

[@visionsbykc]

Honestly I like that the Legend of the Ghost continues to expand throughout generations. This could be a solid trilogy if Sucker Punch sticks to that format. Jin - Tale of Honour Atsu - Tale of Vengeance Third Game - Tale of finding Balance

[@UdyKumra]

I expect the third game to take us to the Satsuma Rebellion

[@jashardwallington]

Hopefully in 1863

[@ERARonin]

​@jashardwallington hopefully 🙏 this sequel doesn't tank by misogynist losers all over the world; Sucker Punch is a nice company, and they are really cooking with this franchise instead of the usual boring formula of main protagonist in sequels*

[@derrickhaggard]

@@ERARonin I want to see this game and Sucker Punch as a whole succeed.

[@ameerdanish28]

Wait what did Atsu want for revenge???

[@Cabb4ge.]

I love that we will be playing a Shamisen (which you can see on Atsu's back and hear being played in the trailer music) instead of a flute in this game. I just like the idea of jamming out on it whenever I want. I'm personally a fan of the western style spin on the music as well.

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

We could’ve played as that after we got Jin the second time. Same as with Ezio

[@chandlerburse]

@@MeggaMann_theBlueLion touch some grass

[@auroa9854]

the game will be cheeseburger samurai themed as a whole, with the whole wild frontier aspect of hokkaido as similar to the american wild west. im excited

[@ladynikkie]

I remember reading a comment saying that Hokkaido back in the 1600s was like the Wild West of Japan it's theme in the trailer makes sense.

[@isabaig6665]

I think this can work very well. The point of ghost 1 is that the ghost was a necessity and it shows a person like Jin is pushed to the ghost which is a necessity of the time. Maybe this format can use different contexts to justify different ghosts or whether there is a ghost at all.

[@grandpapycofa1593]

It looks like the main character is going to be an Ezo native descendant, fighting shogunate approach into untamed lands.

[@americasteam2112]

Also, making a sequel set centuries later would mean the ending to the first game won’t have a canon ending and left ambiguous.

[@lowlytarnished3307]

I am extremely happy that they’re not overusing Jin after his story was told. We get a new character with new weapons, new tales, a land in Hokkaido, and a fresh new start. I’m here for it

[@LokiStuartsson]

With this reveal trailer, i get MAJOR Blue Eye Samurai, Princess Mononoke, Lady Snowblood, and Kill Bill vibes. I'm all for it.

[@Grandtemplar305]

Same very excited

[@jashardwallington]

Faxxx

[@derrickhaggard]

Same.

[@ayubk2638]

The collectable artefacts was one of my favourite things in Tsushima where you get to learn aspects of Mongolian culture, as well as the people they conquered. I'm hoping they do the same with Northern Japan's Ainu culture.

[@darrenm.7980]

It seems the developers felt Jin's story was over or felt like they couldn't expand on it enough and want to tell a new story on a new setting which i think could be exciting, especially with the Assassin's Creed comparison. This definitely has me intrigued to see where they take it.

[@jackbrassil5318]

At first, I thought the character in the trailer was Yuna, and we were following her after GoT taking up some new Ghost mantle. I didn't realize the time jump since I never really clocked when GoT was set in the first place. After i realized it wasn't her, I thought we'd get a peak at Jin or something but it never came. THEN they showed the name change from Tsushima to Yotei and i was taken aback for sure since I assumed any follow up game would be a direct sequel. But, after sitting on it for a while (and properly learning about the time jump lol) I am definitely intrigued and eager to see where this story takes us. Also, excited about the possibility of "Ghost" being the main title for an anthology of games set in Japan. (I am commenting this before I even watched the video so if you made any of these points just know you are a top GAMER bro)

[@jaedenbennett6931]

The fact that this is almost the same amount of time between AC and AC2 is uncanny. Plus, if her character motivation is based more on vengeance for a personal wrong that even helps to draw more Ezio parallels. I also think the setting is interesting. Japan at the time was a newly unified empire after a period of civil war and starting to expand into a wild frontier territory primarily populated by indigenous people resistant to that expansion. It sounds a lot like a Japanese version of Alaska or the Wild West in general. I think there's a lot they could do with that stylistically

[@Little_pug]

I am praying to Sony that there is at least a reference to Jin Sakai

[@MaxBraver555]

Doesn’t the Ghost reference him enough? He started the Ghost thing

[@Little_pug]

@@MaxBraver555 I meant like in game like a conversation with like an old samurai in a cutscene telling the ghost of yotei about the ghost of Tsushima and how he brought vengeance down on the mongols at the cost of his honor

[@marktime7692]

Expect a Mythic tale on him.

[@Little_pug]

@@marktime7692 that would be the best and most preferred out come maybe it would be a way to unlock ghost stance again or it could be like the ichitsune quest where we fight the spirit of the ghost of Tsushima but I feel like that would be to far

[@MaxBraver555]

@@Little_pug you bet there will be some kind of artifact like the Ghost armor, sword of some sort, Sakai emblem

[@KevinKanji]

Coming on the heels of Blue Eye Samurai, this is extremely exciting and I can’t wait to play this. They deserve the benefit of any doubts based on the quality of the first game, and allows them to use the Ghost avatar to tell other stories.

[@Comicbroe405]

Love that anime

[@ximantuss]

@@Comicbroe405European cartoon

[@Streek2202]

This choice excites me in the sense that the series might become an anthology of unique Ghosts across Japan throughout different historical time periods and events.

[@Controvi]

the moment I saw the trailer and that it was 300+ years in the future, the first thing running through my mind was "this game is going to be about someone taking up the name of "ghost" in this world that Jin left behind." Basically they could, if they want to, write multiple games, just like ACC, where the mantle of Ghost is taken up by new people that either know about the legend, or are learning about it. That way they can have a Fictional Japan that has a legend of a warrior of justice, or a warrior for the people running through history. Really looking forward to seeing what they did. And I hope that at some point we get something like ACC: Revelations. One of my favorite character arcs where you just have a character that wants to understand what he did it all for and find the roots of the Assassin's. Maybe something to explore as well here where the MC will try to explore where the roots are from and find out that that Jin was, after the game, traveled through japan setting up the legend of the Ghost. Or something along those lines.

[@TVTim86]

I expected the sequel to choose a different location, I couldn't see Tsushima changing enough during Jin's lifetime for exploration to be exciting enough, but I didn't expect them to jump forward over 300 years in time. I'm totally fine with it. The Art style, the gameplay mechanics, are all still going to be present. In hindsight, the change makes sense, as the first game was set around a real event, so for the sequel to do the same, the devs had to find another large real event from Japanese history to centre the story around. I hope we get a mythic quest about Jim Sakai where we can unlock the classic Ghost Armor

[@gerardw.7468]

Its good that its a new character. I dont think milking Jin's character arc is any good. His story is done.

[@65firered]

I am genuinely cautiously optimistic. But fate has a sense of humor, AC Shadows drops a figurine that disrespects the Japanese for the nth time this month and runs away from the Tokyo Game Show while Sony drops the announcement of Ghost 2 and gets everyone excited and hopeful for the game. The same day. Sucker Punch earned the benefit of the doubt and it's reputation, Ubisoft has to buy that.

[@frankymr2]

It kinda of make sense its very similar to the crow movies ,since its about a ghost not the name of the character, is the Ghost of "region" with this they can make as many games as they want and use a different main character. Reminds me of the Crow movies , where they all "the crow" but different people play the crow. The crow only comes for revenge once hes done he disappears and it dead again, until another crow rises.

[@moritakaishida7963]

Im very excited, also sucker punch often move on to different characters in their sequals , so im not that surprised

[@Sonicifyouwanit]

Can't wait. Looking forward to jumping into this game.

[@JaviIIAragon]

It's because that's how sucker punch works, they make multiple games in a same universe without them having much relation, think about Infamous 1 and 2 and then Second Son. I think it's a good signal actually, it means that SP have creative freedom to do whatever they want.

[@chandlerburse]

Uh dude Second son was the first and only time they did that and that was because Cole was dead They made a whole trilogy about Sly to be fair And originally cole was suppose to be the MC of the third game

[@JaviIIAragon]

@@chandlerbursealmost same with Jin, he is not dead but his story is done. Specially after Iki island dlc

[@jish55]

There really wasn't much left to tell for Jin's story as Tsushima was a fairly linear location to work with. Yes, we could have delved into Mongol's second invasion, but that would have felt like just another rehash of what we already got. This on the other hand is a much better route, especially as the Sengoku period (the Warring States era) was such a brutal era for Japan, where it was essentially non stop civil war for hundreds of years throughout the country. As for what you said, I was always pushing to move away from Tsushima in this franchise and saying we needed to move in this direction so as to keep the franchise fresh and vibrant.

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

Stop it

[@jde7052]

It’d be kind of cool if the legends earning skillset like I’ve seen other people referencing you got more Jin related items and lore. I think it’d be cool if the final parts of each Legend mission actual lead us to Jin story where we play as him doing the things to unlock legendary weapons in this land since a lot of the legends seemed to have a legacy to them in the first game, imagine if Jin was the last person to do all of those legendary Quests that leave us to just see more of him we are just learn more about him after. I think that would be a cool way to go about doing what you were talking about with how AC 2 still feels like a direct sequel to AC 1 but in a more Revelations inspired way. Yet it’s just special moves and gear that’s more optional where the main story still feels like it’s all about this new protagonist but all the best improvements for them, with the strongest written secondary quests you learn more about Jin’s larger influence.

[@leetod6659]

I don't quite understand, since when has 'Make a sequel to the already told story' become a better idea than 'Start a new story, a new journey' from the perspective of storytelling, or art creation.

[@ItsLazBoi]

I don't think it's one size fits all but I think whatever they choose, they likely chose for a reason. I'm not advocating for sequels for the sake of it, I make it pretty clear in the video I think what they're doing it could be very thematically resonant.

[@TheRevanchists]

I don't quite understand why people always just assume a "story" is over just because the game ends.

[@isabellam1936]

I thinks it’s refreshing and exciting to see another direction.

[@Gam1ngAhmad]

God of war did do what sucker punch are doing with the ghost franchise about moving time period, and region to innovate. Well there is a huge difference between the Greek God Of War games and the Norse Saga. Firstly you have a completely new main weapon (you do get the old ones back but as a secondary), you get a different story telling which is even so better told with the one-take camera which has done it better than any media ever. A weapon you can recall which has been one of the most satisfying things in gaming. The first time was nice and so was the other times as well

[@sean24833]

If it was ghost of tsushima 2 win jin sakai everyone would just call it a dlc same they did with ragnarok horizon forbidden west and Spiderman 2. Its smart sucker punch switched it up

[@gentlesavage2068]

the game looks interesting, but it is kind of disappointing that they decided not to continue jins story

[@ButterToTheMilk]

I’m just upset from the same thing as you that they didn’t take Jin to the mainland and expand on his story in an urban environment, I’m sure the game will be good but it’s just not the game a lot of us wanted. The assassins creed comparison is spot on but I don’t know if that works with ghost. Tbh not interest in this game as much as I would’ve been but we gonna have to wait and see

[@ItsLazBoi]

Yeah I get it. Even if they do what AC2 did, I don't know if it's enough. There was a lot of story to tell with Jin. You could've taken him to the mainland and then explore the necessity of the Ghost, but also critique it too, to look at how it was easy to do what he did in a time of war on Tsushima, but on the mainland, during peace time, where people are trying to live their normal lives, will they take so kindly to what Jin is doing, even if for the greater good? I suppose this game could explore elements of that but it doesn't seem to want to from what they're saying. I suppose only time will tell.

[@ButterToTheMilk]

@@ItsLazBoi yeah not gonna lie reading all this just made me hate the new game even more😂

[@antagonist7]

Basically ur sad its not assassins creed

[@ButterToTheMilk]

@@antagonist7 yeah nooo cause assassins creed is complete shit read what James said in reply and that’s what I wanted

[@tozkal96]

@@antagonist7 thats not even close to what he said. he just said the comparison to ac was good. the comparison itself was only discussing a way a sequel can successfully integrate the story and lore from a previous title without being a direct successor that follows the same caracters, time and setting. neither the comment or the video complained about ghost not being more like ac.

[@troy9555]

It might be hard for some viewers to hear, so let me hold your hand when i say this... JIN'S STORY WAS DONE! im excited about the new game, new protagonist, new location, new weapons, new mechanics and NEW STORY. theres going to be a call back to Jin in the new game, 100%. itll be a legendary tale giving you an ability or armor.

[@sebthelobster]

They have good will from the first game. I will hype for it before proven otherwise

[@ItsLazBoi]

For sure. I have no real reason to believe this won't be good.

[@neonmatt24]

I had heard rumors of a female protagonist for the sequel about a year ago, so I always assumed that meant they were gonna do a spinoff on Yuna or maybe even Tamoi on the mainland after she left Tsushima. I never considered they would do such a huge time jump to 300 year gap and it be someone totally new and different. I'm up for the change but I am cautiously skeptical to not get my hopes up high after seeing the trailer. I always wanted a sequel to see Jin's journey continue to evolve and see him delve deeper into "ghost" tactics and start training others in the ghost way to forge a new clan of Shinobi. Set it during the second Mongolian Invasion on the mainland Island, and have Jin have to travel with his new clan to help fight off the invaders, and the Shogun has to decide whether to seek Jin's aid or hunt him as well for defying his law. I'm skeptical of this sequel after seeing the trailer because I wonder if it will be more of the same that we already had in the main Tsushima campaign and the Iki Island expansion. Visually beautiful to look at, with lush forest, vast fields of flowers, gorgeous sunsets behind mountains and countryside's but also empty and void of NPC civilians? I get the first game, that the civilians were being hunted and killed so there weren't many people walking around like you would see in an Assassins Creed game or Rise of the Ronin. But for the sequel, I was hoping to be on the mainland with bigger urban environments with villages, towers and castles. Filled with NPC's doing daily activities, and the ability to interact with them. Maybe save someone in need, recruit people that have heard the legend of the Ghost etc. I know it's too early to see what kind of Urban environments we will see, but if you compare the Yotei trailer to the Tsushima trailer they show the same types of beautiful landscapes and fields. So if that's any indication of what's in the game, I'm going to be a little disappointed if it's more of the same with just a new character and few new weapons.

[@Idealist_Metaphor]

I respect sucker punch so incredibly much for not tying themselves down to Jin and Tsushima. It takes guts to do that and if they can make the gameplay feel unique to the first game as well as tell a coherent story, I think it will be masterful.

[@tyguy0297]

sequel with different protagonist, killing a list of people for revenge for something... sound familiar?

[@joseortizreflects]

I'd rather have a new story with a new protagonist than have Jin receiving the Joel treatment, which is what has me a bit worried for The Witcher 4 with a "new protagonist" but with Geralt in the game as well. It is good when producers go for new IPs or new characters within the same universe instead of milking the same characters and the same IPs until they break them, and so it is necessary for us as consumers to support these new ideas when they are suggested because they, most of the time, are better than seeing the stuff we love getting mistreated and disrespected.

[@MrLaafish]

I am open to this change in protagonist, games like Red Dead, Grand Theft Auto and Elder scrolls to name a few all have a new protagonist in each entry. There is a reason why it isnt Ghost or Tsushima 2 but a new Ghost in a new location and setting, looking forward to see what Sucker Punch is cooking

[@gmintraining4597]

This feels like a “Miles Morales” thing to me but I could be wrong.

[@evansinclair1999]

I don’t understand are people actually upset about this? What’s so wrong with it being an anthology jins story was done

[@redhood7778]

It's almost like devs don't want to work on the same game over and over again. That's crazy.

[@jashardwallington]

This takes place 21 years after the siege of iga castle an i think there was a conflict in japan in the 1600, 1609, 1610. i wish it was set during the shimabara rebillion that wouldve been interesting other then samurai champloo i dont think its talked about as much

[@GMRMDE]

I don't really understand the disappointment around a new character, to me when I finished GOT, it was done, it had a nice neat ending and it felt like it wrapped up nicely. Taking Jin to the mainland wouldn't make any sense story wise and he also he has kind of done everything already. He is a legendary warrior to his people, it would feel like taking a max level character to a starting area in an MMO if he just suddenly decided to go to the mainland. We need different stories, new characters, new areas of japan, different time periods. Game looks amazing, Atsu seems cool. SP makes the only games that make it worth getting a PS.

[@williamstarck6863]

I agree with this. I don't see where they'd take Jin from here. And Sucker Punch obviously feels the same.

[@MaxBraver555]

You know some people are overly attach to something, they want just that over and over, will be then only what matters to them, like Power Ranger audience.

[@justingabriel1765]

Well because some people felt like Jin’s story was just starting in reality, we got his backstory, his truama, and his triumph over an enemy, but because we know the Mongols still went to the main land, having another game showing the end of the ghost was what I thought it was going to be. We would see him go and fight a losing battle, continuing the legend until he was gone. It being a new character isn’t bad at all but it does give me concerns with how loved Jin was, and if this new character will be just as likeable

[@MaxBraver555]

@@justingabriel1765 how much more can they do for the plot of same Mongol invasion, map, and missions like freeing villages from Mongols and then deal with another Mongol leader, that's going to feel the same and just a Ghost of Tsushima 1.5 there's not much to add the story, gameplay considering it takes place on the same period

[@mrX666-s9p]

A game mostly played by guys and you wonder why we are mad clown. If this were 2000-2015 I would be ok but given this years and the ESG DEI injected bullcrap having a woman replacing a male protagonist is 100% pushed there for pandering and DEI purposes. Not just that how in the hell after almost 5 years we only get a piss poor trailer and game looking like the ps4 version. The faces shadow lighting doesn't look even close to next gen. Hell look at how good Death Stranding 2 looks wtf are they doing over there sucker punch is not the same company this stupid woke bullshit has plagued even them.

[@LostWallet]

making another game and have Jin leave the island is defeating the point of the game. he is the Ghost of Tsushima, the protector of the island, him leaving the island basically defeating the purpose of him sacrificing his samurai code to become the Ghost in the first place

[@ameerdanish28]

I dont care if there is new protagonist or they wont continue jin sakai story.Im just glad that the game and jin sakai story was complete.Man i miss jin sakai,BuT ghost of yotei wont be bad.

[@napoca7586]

It's perfect! If it would be part 2, it would be more of the same and people cry it's 1.5. Now it's much fresher

[@MaxBraver555]

I really thought they would do huge time period jump (1600s), in order to introduce new weapons and mechanics, like rifle, kusarigama, naginata and more. Jin Sakai (1200) would not live that long before that happens.

[@jorgegallardo8611]

norio had a naginata

[@MaxBraver555]

@@jorgegallardo8611 it's nagamaki, longer blade than naginata, which only became a thing in 1500s

[@thatrandomguyyy632]

I think it would be fine to have the game not reference the first game as long as it translates the same feelings and emotions from a new lender, someone becoming the ghost but not from a samurai but from a different honour system for example

[@Lockleytrailers]

- Learning from Assassin's Creed's mistake. Ezio, the only character in the franchise with multiple sequels is the only person deemed best character for his expanded story. Sure Ezio is an amazing character and I'm happy they continued his story to the very end, the big problem is, after the story ends, what comes next? - Sure Jin can have a sequel for the 2nd invasion, but then what? It would just feel like Ghost 1 but Ghost 1 would still probably have a bigger impact compared to Jin's sequel. Just like how the new God of War Ragnarok has less of an impact compared to the first. Plus how would writers make Jin truly a legend in that history if they keep showing his human attributes. - The point of being "The Ghost" is not to be remembered but used as something to bring fear to those who have heard the legends. The Ghost doesn't have to be remembered specifically as Jin Sakai, but it can be remembered as a single entity of fear and vengeance like the Legacy of the Batman. - In Assassin's Creed, If another character has to take over with really big shoes to fill, then it would downgrade the expectations of the next predecessor. Don't give one character ALL of the love and support because the next character won't have enough. - Also don't expect a character to live forever.

[@ZeroXSEED]

People are calling quick on "Female Samurai" moniker when it was only IGN calling her that. *IGN.* She's a ronin, which as far as the term concerned isn't just about exiled Samurai but also al sorts of vagrants and vangabonds.

[@65firered]

IGN is just being well... IGN.

[@C0vert_F0x]

Exactly. 'Samurai' is more of a misnomer and catch all term in the west for any Japanese swordsman. The main character in Blue Eyed Samurai wasn't technically a Samurai by definition EITHER, despite the title of the show calling her one.

[@royalbiscuit2371]

People tend to be fairly superstitious, especially before the modern age of science and evidence. So it wouldn't surprise me if The Ghost was turned into a yokai lore wise or even turning Jin Sakai into a God like other figures in history have. It would follow where the story of the original game was going out of Jin's hands in a way he can't control. Jin definitely would have hated it but another character finding out The Ghost was a person and adopting the role of this yokai would be a logical step to where it could go

[@doughlausprashaal7151]

Well to be fair I don't see a jin sequel working out narratively Like what else is left to see or tell in the narrative Jin protected his homeland from the Mongols He's faced and resolved his internal conflict with the samurai and Shogun He's resolved his differences with his uncle depending on the ending He's also like faced his past with the ikki Island dlc There's nothing left apart from oh the Mongols have attacked again have to teach them a lesson again So I'm perfectly fine with a new character new location a new story

[@boushido1]

🤔I think we get a revenge plot that is going to be similar to that of Mizu from 'the blue eye samoerai.' Hunting down a group of ronin who are responsible for the death of her loved ones. They will leave her for death but then she is saved by the followers of Jin who turn her into the new ghost.

[@chaoticneutral7528]

Would be cool if she's jins descendant. It would tie the games together even more.

[@tshep7031]

I specifically wanted the 2nd game to take place in the time this one is set, 1603, because that's when the Shogun show takes place which I found such a compelling setting. I hoped they could wrap a narrative around the political tension and intrigue that the show entailed due to the time period. so this is basically exactly what I wanted, but I'm worried because from what I can tell, the shogunate has nothing to do with this game and the island of yotei didn't have any significant historical events in the years surrounding this game. I didn't need them to keep Jin, but if they were going to change him out, I really wanted it to be in the pursuit of a more compelling story/time period for the narrative. We didn't see enough so far, but I'm getting the feeling they won't use this time setting to its full effect.

[@cameronnovy3718]

Well, at least I’ll have plenty of time to make up my mind on it while I wait 5 years for it to, possibly, come to PC.

[@Sam-lf3hn]

Ghost of Tsushima was inspired by Kurosawa films. Atsu is wearing yellow and black and appears to have a hitlist. Maybe Ghost of Yotei is inspired by Kill Bill.

[@reecenotryhs]

This is a classic HUH? moment.

[@icaricc]

Honestly I think jumping to a new time period and protagonist was the best decision, though I figured they'd jump to the Kenmu Restoration not too long after Ghost Either way this is hype

[@SystemHasFailed1989]

Its an anthology game so not surprising they are going this direction to not write themselves in a corner. Hilarious how super positive the trailer was received in Japan while not surprisingly some in the West have sharted themselves over le female despite many Japanese games doing the exact same thing across gaming. And the "But the voice actor's old tweets!" who gives a shit, she doesn't control the writing nor anything of the production of said game. Would it be preferable if she keeps her mouth shut? Of course, most actors should and stay off social media.

[@mattbailey7832]

I don’t mind the new character or location. In fact, I wanted sucker punch to keep doing history pieces around the world, and was hoping china would be next. What bothers me, is that they are using the “Ghost” name again. Which is something I thought was very intrinsic to Jin’s character. Having another person pick up the mantle feels kinda weird to me. Are we just gonna get a re hash of how Jin became the ghost, but with a different person now?

[@SneakyGenius]

Stunning and brave.

[@JeriahTurner]

I thought they would do a ghost of Sparta or something along those lines I didn’t think they would stay in Japan

[@playeroftherules1640]

Looks bloody awesome, more of the same type of gameplay but I’m hoping with her instrument and other accessories, Ghost will play vastly differently 🥳😊

[@albertomatanglawin326]

i was expecting the continuation of the story of Jin Sakai, where he fights the shogan

[@JC0ALOFT]

Same, man, there was so much potential for Jin’s story, honestly a little heart broken, we likely never see Jin get another game (I never really felt that way for a piece of media, which is beautiful when you think about it) but I think in the long run making these games an anthology series will be the right move. There are so much time periods in Japan deserving of its own game

[@_greenrunner_]

why would he fight the shogun?

[@chandlerburse]

Jin was never gonna fight the shogan

[@godssalvation87]

Jin sakai story was complete an his story was in tsushima an the dlc completed the game.

[@hydromexicano]

Takes place 300 years after the first one

[@bobbyjoey07]

Ubisoft literally crying rn 😂

[@PAX-d3i]

at the end of the day time will tell the tale all words from the past will it become a hindrance or ignorance for future of this game

[@MrHazz111]

I'd like to see more of this. Iterative sequels mean more in a PS3-X360 release schedule. I'd rather more sequels take more risks if games come out once every 6 or 7 years. Once the novelty of game 1 wears off, you need to create a new novel experience instead of game 1.5.

[@jasonblack2477]

Yep I am dissapointed

[@abc4781]

Funny thing is if this were a Japanese Game no one would complain about a female protagonist.

[@niewiem3932]

Because they usually make games without politics there

[@jaysonbalicat27]

yup, i dont get why some of western people hates female protagonist like bruh its just a game

[@hunterbowmam5339]

Bro are you high? The yakuza games are mad drentched in political undertones. Those games still rule however. ​@niewiem3932

[@ximantuss]

I think it’s getting complaints mainly because Jin is not the lead anymore, if ghost of yōtei came out before ghost of Tsushima it wouldn’t have gotten nearly as much hate as It is

[@suavemente571]

@@ximantuss I think they should have wrapped up Jin’s story more definitively with the second mongol invasion years later first before trying to venture into new time periods with completely unrelated characters and protagonists. Like this should be a 3rd entry game to the series.

[@VWorldWide]

It's not really a sequel Jin story was over there was nothing else to tell. New game, great move Sucker Punch

[@leone9482]

I was very disappointed by this announcement tbh

[@Grandtemplar305]

I feel like ghost was going for a different protagonist cause anybody can be a ghost and they might mention him in the game or make a another dlc bout him

[@matthewtonna1]

Looks good but i wanted to see a sequel to Jin's story

[@niewiem3932]

Me to

[@Key85.]

I was pretty disappointed. You’ve given me some hope !

[@Comicbroe405]

It's tragic that some seem to be focusing on only the female protagonist and not the fact that they're literally cooking up an entire new settings & elements here. Great video.

[@pemguim1120]

Whenever I played Assassins creed, I always hated the modern day segments. I played through them as quickly as possible to get back to the cool stuff. I feel like the Ghost series is just all the cool stuff in assassins creed minus the bullshit no one cares about

[@Wighafoc]

At first I was turned off, but after thinking for a while I’m not sure. I still have some interest. I just don’t really like the setting they went with, like we have enough entertainment set during the late Sengoku/early Edo period.

[@ERRATAS0708]

Only orange lovers are ones mad about this.

[@agidotexe7167]

im not worried at all, its set during the sengoku jidai period (waring states period) so during the times of the japanese civil wars, theres alot they can do with that and i feel like politics is going to be a bigger part of this game in some shape or form

[@yeaminarafat5621]

it is really sad that we cannot play as jin. It is like they follow ac. In ac, they make ezio's Trilogy. I love those games most in ac series. I have no problem with this new setting. But emotionally attach to new mc is really hard.

[@mrX666-s9p]

Game looks like ps4 one this will not sell as good as the first game people wanted jin feudal Japan they are out of touch.

[@Heisen_burger-dude]

Its not ghost of tsushima 2. A different game in the same universe

[@exakelgaming]

am cautiously optimistic but will play with the Japanese dub over the english dub.

[@tbrown5836]

Hey, if I get Kill Bill but in Japan, I’m happy

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

Plane and simple no one saw this coming. We all always wanted and waited patiently for a Jin sequel. Robbed. There’s other things going on behind the scenes at Sony

[@TheVIITV]

I would have liked something in the GoY video game trailer that said this is going to be a good video game, not a bunch of clips thats trying its hardest to “appeal” to me. This gives off a heavy commercialization and capitalization vibe. It’s unfortunate their ambitions of making Ghost into a big franchise is turning such a unique IP into something that feels so generic. It seems like they’ve traded soul for flashiness and what “works”. Queue the auroras, the flashy art direction, mass appealing and safe protag, and the Japanese folk music with a western twist. I guess that’s how you catch new eyes. I would suggest that it’s by standing out and doing something different, but maybe that’s just me.

[@wanderlegal2405]

It's a teaser. Of course there will be more videos out and we'll be able to see character interactions, more in-depth gameplay mechanics and world-building. Every videogame franchise does this nowadays. It's just a teaser for now. Let's see where Sucker Punch takes us later on.

[@TheVIITV]

@@wanderlegal2405 You’re right. I’m open minded and willing to see where this journey takes us, but I also trust my instincts and what it is I’m able to see in front of me. For me personally, this first look at the big reveal for the next installment in this franchise wasn’t about how much or how little they showed, it was about the quality of what they did show. For me personally it was disappointing and quite frankly disengaging. Hopefully they can reel me back in because I was really looking forward to the continuation of this series.

[@slainemccool2875]

Yeah I hope it has sizable towns

[@MrBean_Look_Alike]

I like the idea, but i hope they don't call all the main characters ghost in the story going forward, because that would remove all the impact and ''coolness'' when there's is a thousand other ghosts out there

[@ItsLazBoi]

So long as there's a direct reason for her to be a "Ghost" then I'm cool with it. If there is no reason at all then it'll feel a little silly for two ghosts to exist independent from each other with nothing tying them at all.

[@MrBean_Look_Alike]

@@ItsLazBoi yeah I agree, but I hope Jin isn't a big part of the game because it's been 300 years. I hope that if hes mentions that they treat him like a myth, like a story you tell around a campfire. They could give him one of those legend side quests from the first game.

[@SenmiMsS]

I don't like the idea of milking one character and one era/age for two decades. It's nice to have something fresh. Like with anything else, i don't care about genders etc unless the game is good and the reason behind it is solid. So instead of screaming "woke", i will actually wait for more information about the game.

[@_Azeem_]

Just make it kill bill and its golden

[@jaythekittydragon3525]

Also we did see what to Altair in assassin creed revelation

[@tehbone8604]

Not feelin it. I’mma pass.

[@VWorldWide]

And the next one qill be another and another like the assassin's creed way

[@theyabalshehhi3984]

The trailer should that she was being hunted by ronin it might be cause she is using the way ghost or. Cause she hides the armor of the ghost

[@julioso9339]

Let my boy Jin rest.