Gi or No-Gi: Which Is Better For SELF-DEFENSE? | Talk-Jitsu Episode 7

[@80Demitri]

You guys are spot on! In the end, the GI is designed to be grabbed. It is a heavy piece of material with a reinforced lapel. Clothes tear very easily....I have seen it many times in real fights. Sure, you may be able to knock someone off balance or create a little resistance, but not enough to make a difference. If I am close enough to grab someone's collar I sure as shit will be performing another technique than searching to make grips. I am not saying it doesn't work at all, its just highly unlikely. Jackets are weather dependent and have zippers and other things that will work against you. And lets not even get into skinny jeans.

[@9to5reviews]

Agree, no gi will be more realistic for a real fight in terms of controlling your opponent in most situation because there are punches to ur face and everything is super fast, gi will be a slow pace game that will be more complicated to actually use in a real street fight

[@futrerockstar]

An underrated aspect of gi training is just dealing with a lot of friction and obstacles. Love them both tho

[@katokianimation]

Gi makes you aware of not letting your opponent touch your collar. Wich is the same distance where you could be punched in the face. So i think that extra awareness definitely helps. No gi on the other hand is waaay waay more practical. Try to spider guard sweeping or loop choking someone who wears a long sleves shirt...

[@jedijudoka]

As others have said, I think both are useful for self defense. An assailant may not always be wearing something substantial enough to grab, but if they are, it’s good to know gripping/gi specific stuff. Having said that, Whether I’m in my judo, gi bjj or no gi class, I love a two on one/Russian tie, or oblique grip. Imo, it’s one of the safest positions you can attack from.

[@Aaron-bd9sj]

You're probably not grabbing clothes when someone is punching you. I think you guys have weird ideas about what a street fight is actually like.

[@TonyStarkChillinFromHeaven]

Lately I’ve been debating on switching from a GI focus to a no GI/mma gym due to more practical options like self defense and competition. This video confirmed what I was thinking. 😅

[@bucsow]

you guys really coming out with the hot takes

[@FrankBracher]

I see your point, but imagine someone who is really slick with judo throws like Uchi Mata. Grips on the clothing definitely help!

[@diegobriones9219]

Agreed. These shorts are gonna blow you up, Jordan. Admittedly, the controversial takes especially 😩😂😭

[@SalomonEspinosa70]

the man issue with nogi is that after a few minutes or rounds, both guys are way more sweaty and hard to grapple than an avereage street interaction would be (for the BJJ'er).

[@777repentnow]

Yeah but i think the ability to learn to control a sweaty opponent (which is really hard) actually gives you even better control when they are not sweaty lol.

[@sumlife3744]

A question to ponder... Two Jiu jitsiu purple belt practitioners of equal skill and athleticism get into a street fight. One has trained only gi and one only no gi. Who do you guys think would win?

[@jeffstreeter9641]

The gi guy 100%

[@sumlife3744]

@@jeffstreeter9641 interesting

[@80Demitri]

No gi, the only people that say the gi guy would win have never seen or been in a real scrap.

[@yeldarleumas1847]

If anything, there should be training sessions where you train in ''normal'' outdoor clothing .

[@SalomonEspinosa70]

Tshirt and Jeans

[@alexf7797]

I think that contrary to what they are saying here these clothing grabs happen all the time in street fights. Not always of course, but reasonably often. It happened to me once that someone was mouthing off to me grabbing the neck of my sweater, with a thick sweater that's a pretty good control. And you can see this street fighting videos all the time where people often grab and yank each others' clothes, even if it's just a t-shirt. When it's all boxing of course it doesn't happen, but when it turns into wrestling and people are desperate they grab and pull everything

[@alexf7797]

Just to add to this, people often wear long pants, and although if it's something like skinny jeans you won't be able to grab much fabric, but friction is an important factor as well, and gi pants imitate the friction of wearing pants much better. Overall which one comes out as more useful is climate-dependent I guess, In an equatorial country I would rather train no-gi all the time since most people I meet would be wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I live under a pretty cold climate however, people here wear at least a sweater most of the year and a jacket 8 months out of 12, so I guess gi make more sense here

[@SalomonEspinosa70]

yes, but you can learn all that in about a month or less. all the routine chokes and choke defenses (that are possible), for regular clothing, including sturdy collars. you dont need years of GI to figure that out as a nogi guy

[@lcr5772]

No gi all day for self defense. You don’t have to rely on any clothing to defend yourself

[@jedijudoka]

Good idea to dabble in gi a lil bit so you can learn to use their clothing against them if the option is available 🤙

[@Aaron-bd9sj]

​@jedijudoka lol good luck grabbing clothes while they're hitting you. No-gi is far more versatile.

[@Benjiko]

You also won't be able to use clothing when it's to your advantage.

[@tommydejosiafilms]

Train both Gi and No Gi. Be prepared for all circumstances. Then you can have the ability to use whatever you want in a real life scenario. Better to know both and have options, than to limit yourself to one or the other. Be a well rounded BJJ practitioner.

[@outlawfly664]

Nogi works under every circumstance no matter the amount of clothing, you don't need Gi, infact most of it's techniques are unpractical, never mind the fact that training both at the same time entails redundancy in information which reduces training in one specific style and development in both, so it's not better to know both or train both from a mathematical standpoint, especially as a beginner. Just focus on Nogi which should be the focus which is basically the default in true grappling given the fact that everything in Nogi is applicable in Gi and not vice versa or in MMA for that matter. Gi is the past, Nogi the future.

[@michaelsmelt5218]

Doesn't matter, most blue belts know how to work both.

[@skisppspsps]

yall should make youtube shorts out of these! i get hella podcast snippets on there

[@EqualizerCombatives]

Gi is useful to learn defence against having your clothes grabbed. No Gi, is useful for everything else.

[@CAArrazola]

I like no Gi but prefer the 🥋 mainly for the Smell and Sweating no gi, after 1 hour it becomes disgusting

[@johnmorrison2894]

Why isn’t anyone doing bjj in T-shirts and hoods to show grips in clothes

[@johnmorrison2894]

@praywithoutceasing4939 I was meaning a couple times a year get you a T-shirt or 4 you don’t mind getting ripped and practise chokes on it as you can get some good chokes. Not every day practise as the system or no gi and gi seem good day every practise

[@dimitrispapadimitriou3547]

People dont fight in the cold? 😂

[@talkjitsu]

We didn't say that

[@magcitrate]

Have you guys really rolled with street clothes on? Do it instead of just speculating. I do it all the time. You need both gi and nogi skills.

[@talkjitsu]

Great idea. We really should get in more street fights!

[@markgothard7158]

Yea I totally agree! Train in different clothes and different environments, like the beach for example.

[@Itzak15]

​@@talkjitsu it works for a few rounds but most clothes will rip really quickly