Giancarlo Bodoni vs Kaynan Duarte | 2024 IBJJF Absolute No-Gi Grand Prix Final

[@1cepack]

Match starts at 6:19

[@johnbirchall7446]

Eh.. couldn't tell

[@apollion1]

ya wtf

[@DanielCollins419]

Kaynan matches are always such a snooze fest

[@mdp5775]

there were two competitors on the mat. Bodoni should have done something about it then.

[@Louis-ut6sf]

@@mdp5775are you gonna sit here and pretend almost all Kaynan matches aren’t boring?

[@lyricsperson16]

Kaynan never fails to win a boring match

[@KneeReaper420]

Bodoni tried a single leg entry a ton of times and Kaynan defended them. Nobody did anything of substance here

[@Tito74]

IBJJF format is outdated. This was a shame.

[@georgemiyahara6576]

Amazing grip and positioning fight.

[@bryanjohnson8162]

I really don't understand how him diving in for a leg constitute as the other guy getting a take down???

[@AquaticPorrada]

You can't pull to avoid a takedown sequence. If a guy has your leg or a rear body lock, etc. and you go to bottom it counts as two points.

[@timothycarey3883]

So it discourages trying to counter takedowns with submissions, smart rule.​@@AquaticPorrada

[@AquaticPorrada]

No, it prevents crappy guard pulls as a way to avoid points for takedowns. The rules note that if you take someone down and they have the threat of a submission points are not awarded for the takedown until the submission is cleared. So if you soot a double and get caught in a guillotine, you do not get points for the takedown until you clear your head. @@timothycarey3883

[@bryanjohnson8162]

@@AquaticPorrada I'm with Tim they're discouraging counter takedowns not to mention like if you see an opening whether it's in the middle of a takedown or not you should be able to take it without being penalized for it

[@maxmorrison4321]

@@bryanjohnson8162 but then what if I'm about to get taken down and I just dive in on a leg on some bullshit just to get guard without losing points

[@UnskilledGrappler]

That was almost as bad as watching two people in gis stuck in 50/50 for 10 minutes.

[@ninobach7456]

As soon as Kaynan got the two point advantage, he started chilling

[@171694]

Kaynan is very boring to watch

[@pedagogybjj]

IBJJF matches put me to sleep. Terrible rule set. People just play for points and advantages. Lame.

[@putpixel4804]

You need to watch a pro wrestling they even speak into microphones in there

[@ximcrunchy1690]

You basically get points for stalling 😂

[@illusionxmuta]

BRAZILIANS play for points. They will do anything to win, no matter how boring or shameful.

[@user-uk9er5vw4c]

you have a point

[@eliasjr1049]

@@illusionxmuta Kaynan is known even within Brazillians for that. There`s plenty of people in the opposite spectrum like Mica Galvao or Nicholas Meregali and many others

[@DavidSoteloJJ]

Hate On Kaynan all You want. This was a display of his technique and amazing strategy. He has amazing composure, he beats things one at a time, and doesn’t risk too much! He’s a professional

[@Robert-ru4tc]

IBJJF rule set is the worst…

[@Triplotalento]

Bodoni buscando a luta e kaynan amarrando como sempre

[@Darko1.0]

? Ele colocou pressão o tempo inteiro ate forçou meia guarda que e perto de um pass na minha opinião.

[@RobertoSilva-vy5le]

Achava que era só eu que achava isso, cara ao meu ver Kaynan e Pena regrediram muito, antes do GP a FLO soltou um compilado com mais de uma hora de lutas antigas NoGi do Kaynan a diferença dele daquele tempo pra agora é gritante o cara era muito letal, finalizador, lutava pra frente era um lutador empolgante, hoje só luta com o regulamento debaixo do braço na vdd ao meu ver ele não luta e sim só administra resultado, acho isso muito pouco caso ele queira vencer Meregali.

[@d.v.8914]

Vocês querem espectáculo, ele quer ganhar. Abre o jogo com esses caras se ferra. É bonito? Não. Mas funcionou contra o Craig Jones e o Bodoni. Só perdeu com meregalo e o gordon.

[@cheesetoochalk]

Giancarlo tried man. He may look back in retrospect and probably think he should've changed strategy midway but in all both guys did a good job.

[@BeesAcrossTheRockies]

Ah, Kaynan winning via stalling from the top, some things never change - edit: also the dudes most exciting aspect, the fact that he’s stupidly strong, is cheapened by his sheer roidiness. Undeniably talented, unfathomably boring

[@Nixcb2]

Agreed.

[@TheDanielmeeks]

no action because its all points based.

[@ezr.a]

points don't make matches boring. lots of sub only fights are snooze fests as well

[@TheDanielmeeks]

@@ezr.a they absolutely can. There an automatic Risk-Reward calculation that takes place in points only compared to sub only. In ADCC you can clearly see how tactics change when points are in effect vs when they aren't. More risk are taken without points then with points.

[@ezr.a]

@@TheDanielmeeks that is true, i'm not saying that points matches are never boring, they definitely often are. I think that people argue so much over points vs sub only and gi vs nogi for what is more entertaining, when in reality, all rulesets and clothing styles have the same amount of boring matches. its more about the athletes participating.

[@TheDanielmeeks]

@@ezr.a Yes that's 100% the case. The problem for the most part are the athletes. Negative grip fighting, shit wrestling. However, the worst incentive of a points rule set is stalling. Adding points to the end of a match might be more enticing to fight even harder for 1 extra point. If you havent watched the quarterns final match of AIGA where team modolfo's Fabricio Andrey went against Universal Fighters Ibragimov. Its an ADCC style event thats submission only but a transition to points twords the end. It was a tie breaker and first person to get points would win within the time limit. Is was action packed. Fighters need to be incentivized in the best way to perform. Giancarlo doesn't have boring matches typically and here it was obvious he was to worried about not having points get wracked on him then going in for the attack.

[@kylieminou7775]

Giancarlo Bodoni has the most beautiful eyelashes

[@andresseclen7397]

Submission only, 20 min match. Thinking you won off a takedown is sad. Stalling the rest of the match.

[@mdp5775]

nah. defend the takedown then. takedowns should be incentivized otherwise we'd see 240 lb men butt scooting all over the mat.

[@ezr.a]

the problem isn't ibjjf rules, all of the black belt gi matches on the card were awesome. the problem is some competitors just aren't exciting

[@tawaitai]

I want my 11mins back in please!

[@pedrorivera8255]

It's because of these matches while BJJ will never be Mainstream

[@timothycarey3883]

Anyone else excited for Kaynans new bjj fanatics series on stalling.😅

[@shanecarlson7488]

It's a good thing Bodoni is just a junior member of New Wave as this loss might otherwise tarnish their reputation

[@patrickd9406]

They should add bonuses for subs! That would make fighters even more agreesive, in a tournament multiple fighters could go home with prize money. I'll watch these one's trying to notice the details but even my hand wanted to pess the fast forward. I thought Bodoni tried but Duarte just too strong, technically and physically.

[@Gazby]

Were they really takedown points or Kaynan get rewarded for Bodoni deciding to attack the legs 🤷‍♂️

[@TheOddStranger]

Bodoni looks really strong, Kaynan looks ungodly strong.

[@kenn3250]

Right? He's an absolute unit

[@illusionxmuta]

Why is Kaynan invited to all of these things. He's terrible. You can guarantee a nap while watching.

[@AlexAyliffe]

People complaining about the match being boring have no idea what they're watching, lol

[@JSMinstantcoaching]

I just love Giancarlo 😊

[@capofodedor7399]

All competitions should be subs only no points ..boring 💤💤💤

[@ess1072]

Both these guys can beat Nicky Rod?

[@cooperdeek7910]

Who knows

[@coolbluerecharge]

That's cool with the kids. BJJ is going to be lethal in 10-15 years with all these youth having so much time in the sport. But let's be honest, it's LETHAL now. haha

[@battlecontrolBJJ]

A 10 minute Jiu Jitsu match won with Wrestling.

[@Sion7-8]

Ohh, yeah, you must do gardpulling when you’re losing

[@GiBJJIsForChildren]

Adopt ADCC ruleset for all events

[@ClaudioSanada1972]

Oss 👊🏻💪🏻🥋

[@mubarkqardas46]

I can see why IBJJF is dying. This ruleset is horrible. They don't do anything.

[@d.v.8914]

Did you see the other maches da

[@fafre3395]

Trash ruleset. Bodoni actively rolls through for an attack on the legs and Duarte gets takedown points and then stalls for rest of the match?

[@d.v.8914]

He just Went for the Hale mary becouse he knew he was going down

[@TurkBaykal]

Kaynan too strong.

[@sharkparty1027]

Glad I SKIPPED and went to the comments!

[@thyagolopes3020]

is this Nicky Rod??? who is the commentator?

[@Community_Guideline_Violator]

The action starts at 6:19

[@Ebenezer563]

"action"

[@drewgonzales121098]

Dudes be getting upset when we dismiss there ibjjf no gi titles when they get that shit from stalling the entire match after ending up with an early 2 points

[@aaronalbert4160]

8:03 how the fuck is that 2 points for Kanyan? Are they saying Giancarlo rolling for a leg is Kanyan taking him down... are you kidding. And where the fuck did those two advantages come? The ref's ass?

[@ICTTRADERMASTER]

Gordon demoted bondoni back to junior team member from the toilet

[@wgjung1]

The 'nothing happens' sport.

[@errgo2713]

That will be the last IBJJF match I'll ever watch. Absolutely trash rules

[@Lord_Sully]

Robbie Lawler did good, although a little boring to watch.

[@Anonymous-ml3bu]

Kaynan prolly a good dude, but his jiu jitsu is extremely boring compared to the other guys

[@impolitikful]

Huge weight difference

[@d.v.8914]

No its not

[@candylord5363]

Duarte ADV Bodoni

[@prideneverdies1001]

so annoying all these kids slowing the event

[@MJB-ky2tn]

Kaynan more than happy to get up on points then stall the rest of the match. Boring

[@SameOlHim]

Sheesh! 🍑🤤

[@alexmurray9988]

Boring

[@jarredbultema2164]

Another boring Kaynan match. What a surprise.

[@methik38]

wow that was the most boring jj match I've ever witnessed

[@nextlevelmartialarts]

Plays the rules…stalls for the majority of the match. Boring

[@anthonysiu6010]

Zzzzzzz

[@jh-fb7ss]

Ugh….what a snooze fest…extremely tactical at the downside of being absolutely boring to watch. No help in making this sport a spectator sport.

[@BillyJohnsonize]

Terrible rule set.

[@camcantrunvods9765]

Literally the most boring jiujitsu I’ve ever seen.

[@armon8399]

IBJJF sucks so bad. The rules and point system they have are so dumb.

[@d.v.8914]

Did you see the other matches? Da