I just bought a case 21f compact loader for my dairy a few months ago. It replaced 3 machines on the farm. Compact loaders are very versatile! 10 out of 10 would recommend.
@markassink8552 Жыл бұрын
Actually these machines are made in the Netherlands 🇳🇱. The bucket is too wide for those pens I guess. And if you enter your barn backwards, Ur able to get to that other corner much better. These wheelloaders beat any skid steer in means of comfort, and visibility. Skid steers are quite rare here in nl. Almost every farm has a kind of this wheel loader though
@rigdigwus Жыл бұрын
the reach of the small one is the same as with a skid steer but it is way bigger, don't see how this would every be worth it. telescoping can be handy but the reach is still quite limited
@Ever443 Жыл бұрын
@@rigdigwusit’s just like anything, you have to have a combination of equipment to do any job, both Skidsteers and these units have their sweet spot so to say in what they do well
@xSCHEF Жыл бұрын
Made right here in my small town of OISTERWIJK, the Netherlands! Edit: Kubota has recently struck a deal with them actually, Tobroco GIANT will build all these mini-loaders under the KUBOTA brand too!
@mramanya Жыл бұрын
What did your dad think about them?
@hendricogoosen4599 Жыл бұрын
Heel interessant
@babeloebie Жыл бұрын
I love these machines! Made and used almost everywhere in The Netherlands! I get what you said, I have been stuck to the wall myself couple of times, but when you get the hang of it, you’ll learn the machine better. Becareful with heavy loads, you could flip if you turn too fast
@hardyhoefle2783 Жыл бұрын
I can see how over time, you would become very efficient. But the ideal situation would be to have both the skid steer and the articulated machine. The problem you mentioned, getting pinned against a wall, put your bucket down , raise your front tires off the ground and articulate away from the wall.
@lawrencewillard6370 Жыл бұрын
Your positive attitude makes it all go well, and thats why you get chosen to demo them.
@fredsquires1640 Жыл бұрын
We used a G3500 for a month on a project. Machine really is amazing. Good balance and traction. Also the big black ant on the boom.
@1striperon Жыл бұрын
Impressive machines, Eric. I can see lots of positives, but when many of your feed and cleanup systems center around the maneuvering of a skid steer it’s hard to change.
@KristopherNexus Жыл бұрын
I love watching the cows flick the dumping feed off with their ears! So cute! ❤
@Michael-8903 Жыл бұрын
These machines are popular here in Scandinavia like Skid steer are at your place. But they just keep getting bigger and bigger and works well if you have all new buildings. We have machines from Avant and Multione that are around 1 meter wide and 2 meters long and lift atleast 800 Kg
@callmesosa300 Жыл бұрын
I ran wheel loader for 10+ years. I work for Horst Excavating out of Lancaster. If you end up buying one I would love to give you some tips. You do really well for not running one! Don’t comment much but love you vids and I’m local.
@ivofurtado8032 Жыл бұрын
I am a machine operator. Love your videos and take wide turns that will make it easier to get in tight places
@rubenbonthuis634 Жыл бұрын
We also have one 1 the Netherlands the same as almost every farmer, skidsteers arent popular here but we love our giant loaders
@steven1649 Жыл бұрын
I fit the 2700 in my tool trailer. It lifts pallets of pavers. I leave the escavator and track loader at home for all hardscape jobs now
@xSCHEF Жыл бұрын
It’s from my HOMETOWN OISTERWIJK NETHERLANDS amazing machines!!😊 Edit: Kubota has recently struck a deal with them actually, Tobroco GIANT will build all these mini-loaders under the KUBOTA brand too!
@JHruby Жыл бұрын
Having dealer support through Kubota dealers would be a huge plus. European brands like JCB are often let down here in the US because of small dealer networks and lack of parts availability.
@uncle_milk01 Жыл бұрын
The demos are always so interesting!
@Sec19Agro_ Жыл бұрын
I've got a Schaffer mini wheel loader similar size as that giant 2700. id never go back to a skid steer now. on occasion I get myself into a corner and the articulation makes it difficult to get out but all around I love these mini size/class of machines.
@haydenc2742 Жыл бұрын
I watched a guy fix the pivot pin on one of these...definitely make sure that pin is greased...it was a nightmare to split that machine and fix if/when the bushings wear out due to lack of maintenance. So cool to see new equipment being tested/used...I hope you enjoy the machines...would definitely be a great addition to your dairy farm! Keep em coming!!!!
@randybearing8986 Жыл бұрын
We bought a compact wheel loader (john deere 324L) and it works great for mixing feed and moving big square bales but building work is difficult.
@dougdiplacido2406 Жыл бұрын
For driving a new machine you did a great job. With time i am sure you would be zipping around as nimble as the skid steer. Your review was really informative and thorough. Thanks for a great video Eric.
@keithmckenna7447 Жыл бұрын
Basically a skid loader is like a very big and agile man with a very big shovel. Wheel loaders have their place but they don’t suit every job. Ideally it would be nice to have both.
@doncc6080 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Eric if nothing else the savings on not replacing the skid steer tires so often is a big plus.
@WesFarmingPOV Жыл бұрын
We use skid loaders for mixing feed and burn through hard surface tires pretty quick...I like how high the wheel loader sits. Thanks for the video nice to see an application that relates to what we would use it for 👍
@johanneslaxell6641 Жыл бұрын
We have the older "top of the line" V761T (now called G5000) and I reallj like it. Use it for loading/unloading trucks "forklift duty" and utility work. Tried a new Kubota the same size but didn't like it as much. Strongest contender I've tried so far is a Kramer 8085 with four wheel (crab) steering...
@Kevin986_ Жыл бұрын
what a sweet ride Eric. Looks like fun to be honest
@fagan4119 Жыл бұрын
I predict he sticks with the skid steer
@harrybowman306 Жыл бұрын
I agree, unfortunately a lot of their buildings are built around the use of skid steers which obviously are more nimble and agile than other machines
@gielj8262 Жыл бұрын
If you get stuck onto the wall, push you're bucket down. Push the frontwheels up. And just steer youre way out.
@krisseese5958 Жыл бұрын
Just started binge watching ur channel again today😉. If you get a loader in a tight spot, against a wall or something, put the bucket down till ur front tires r barely off the ground and slightly turn away from the tight area. Should give you enough room to get away from said wall or whatever. Just a little tip👌 Always great videos Eric!
@jdschini Жыл бұрын
You did a great job of putting both of the two new machines through their paces. And as you pointed out the larger unit with more reach has better visibility for loading the feed mixer. And with the totally enclosed cab, you would certainly be cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter as the operator VS the skid steer. By keeping this unit out of the manure handling duties, it would reduce the risk of cross contamination to your feed storage areas. But after having said all of that positive. I do think you would dearly miss having your skid loader around to do all of the close work in your barns. I just do not think you can beat having a good little skid steer on a dairy farm for handling manure, and clean up in tight quarters. Not sure if some lower costs for wear and tear on your existing skid loader would be enough to offset the cost of the new Giant loader. But your point about the importance of safety for your family certainly has some added value that should be considered as well. This won’t be an easy decision for you and your family. But I also know that it comes down to the dollars. And they have to work out if it is going to be a good investment for your dairy farm. Thanks for a great demonstration video!
@IbrahimElsayed-b8u Жыл бұрын
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@Blueriverfarms Жыл бұрын
I have run both, loader is better for feeding and mixing; while the skid steer is better for small pen cleaning. In an ideal world you would use both machines. As you point out there is less wear and tear with the loader and they are much faster compared to skid steer when handling feed.
@jentpostma337 Жыл бұрын
That's what we ended up with. Add a loader keep the skid. Alot less hours on the skid, yet still have it for bedding, small pens and cleaning up feed.
@DannyRice01 Жыл бұрын
If you ever get stuck against a wall you can set the bucket on the ground and push the front wheels off then shimmy it over it that makes sense. We have a 2 ton lift capacity terex which is a lot larger than the Giants but our feed passageways 10ft wide! So tight we needed a special order diet feeder wagon but thats the joys of Ireland 😅
@denisdangan Жыл бұрын
been using skid steers for many years about our farm and it’s a machine u could never do without once u get one, but defo feel u need to have a bigger loader for feeder filling and some heavier jobs about the farm,having the two machines we find neither is over worked and have gotten many years from them both.i’d feel even the bigger of the two demos is still to small for your operation
@Muteddisk Жыл бұрын
When you turn in the alley, raise the bucket higher than the gate. You'll be able to turn easier. Then back up straight, put your bucket down and scoop. Get out the same way.
@SUPERSORNO Жыл бұрын
Look into a JCB tella skid. Side door and telescoping boob built into a skid steer. I love them when I demo-ed but it is a bit out of my price range. Trying to find a good used one.
@sunroofracing Жыл бұрын
Excellent review and demo! Great to see Dad putting the machines through the evaluation process. Excellent hearing you talk about visibility and kids on the farm. Certainly, they are both impressive machines! Thanks for the video.
@davidkimmel4216 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your observations. Thank You
@williambell868 Жыл бұрын
Does the dealer offer the larger machine without the telescope. That usually extends the front of the machine around a foot. Also look at a high tip bucket that connects to the auxillary system. You lift the bucket straight up over where you dump and then activate the bucket and it tips over.
@markf350s9 ай бұрын
Wow, that makes a nice addition to the whole fleet of equipment
@allenols3175 Жыл бұрын
On my equipment, I wrapped the hyd hoses, at critical bends, and rubbing points, WITH OVERSIZED CLEAR, BRAIDED HOSE BY SLICING IT, THEN USE ZIP TIES TO SECURE IT. CHEAPER than to change hoses.
@dogyerf21 Жыл бұрын
I used to operate a slightly bigger kubota version of these. Your assessment of planning turns or getting trapped is spot on. Also didn’t like that the whole load could be thrown off if you turn too quickly or sharply. On the model I operated it was also possible to climb into a running machine and grab the steering wheel and subsequently slam your load into something. Skid loader is much better for your jobs.
@rontopping204810 ай бұрын
Great video, skid steers better option for tight areas. You could cut out mesh sides on kubota and install clear polycarbonate sides for better visibility, this is an option on bobcat r series machines
@Dan-qy1rg Жыл бұрын
I could see how those would be fine in most uses. There may be some issues with height in low ceiling barns and maneuverability due to length. I do like your Kubota, I would love to get my Bobcat fixed, just a lot of things to get done and a lot of cost. Good test run and comment on it, thanks. Have a great week!
@sten1934 Жыл бұрын
When you get stuck you could put the bucket on the ground so youre front tires lift up and rotate the stering whee then
@JB-mf1zc Жыл бұрын
Mighty fine ; wish we could get some rain down here in south Texas!! God Bless!!
@jamesmisener3006 Жыл бұрын
Ask for more time with them to evaluate. A few days even. One of these and one skid loader would be a good mix for the chores you have. Cheers 🇨🇦
@jamesmisener3006 Жыл бұрын
I forgot lifting seed bags over the seeder.
@jerrymoore-nk7tv5 ай бұрын
Just watched video again the small one in calf barn is cool to see you can clean 1/2 the pen from one side then go in backwards and clean other side
@coltsjason Жыл бұрын
I think the compact loaders will do well cleaning up manure
@ianbob3050 Жыл бұрын
We have a Bobcat A300 and an A770..just traded the A770 in on a Bobcat TL519...awesome replacement machine. Do'nt know why we waited so long.Its great to have a 19' lift height.
@rickharper1497 Жыл бұрын
The skid steer is the right machine for cleaning out the calf barn, hands down!!
@iowamagicman Жыл бұрын
I used to do landscaping and we ran kubota articulated machines. Loved everything about them except for the slow hydraulics.
@stefdegroot642 Жыл бұрын
If you are stuck in a corner it helps to put the bucket down en push the front axel of the ground and turn the steering wheel.
@pauldubetsky3847 Жыл бұрын
Funny we my wife and I were just down your way for the Rough and Tumble. We were trying to find the the air B and B we were staying at and we drove right past your place. We were driving by and I saw the farm and your new house, for a min she didn't believe me. We ended up staying not 5 min from you r farm. Anyway really enjoy your videos. Thank you.
@jackie_v8 Жыл бұрын
1 skid steer and 1 giant g3500 would be a good combo
@marcusbreunig9439 Жыл бұрын
I work on a dairy farm in Wisconsin and we have both a skidsteer and we also use compact loaders to do the bigger stuff that takes longer with a skidsteer
@tracyeaves1084 Жыл бұрын
The biggest one can be used for stacking round bales and scooping out the big barns specially the dry cows pens
@pdh__ Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Dutch machinery in the states
@benkramer7678 Жыл бұрын
Sounds you need this as a second machine instead of a second bigger skid steer. Great video!
@canvids1 Жыл бұрын
Great video and yes a bit of a learning curve. i operated Articulate Machines in the mid 1980'to mid 1990's. On Overseas Containers for the Railway. They would lift over 60,000 Pounds. They were great once you spent a few hours Operating them. but like many machines you have the good,bad and the ugly on them all.
@jackthewisedog5171 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. They would definitely have a use. Mixing feed and cleaning out the bigger sheds it would be great. Also lifting up seed bags where you need a bit of extra height. It seems to have great traction and visibility. In your dry cow farm I wonder would it fit in the low roof shed ? anyway looks like a nice piece of kit
@jhavit7275 Жыл бұрын
I usually work with front loaders but seeing these wheel loaders makes me want to get one
@steveneal2706 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Eric and dad. I like the skid steer much better. It looks like you can do much more with it. Maybe a new one would have the features that you would like. Thank you guys
@rypkepaulusma Жыл бұрын
Great video Eric. Just like SaskDutchKid, A dairy on the prairie, Laura Farms, Millennial Farmer and a lot of other channels you tell the real and honest story abour ag and farming. You should be rewarded with much more viewers.
@sklsout Жыл бұрын
Skid loaders are quicker and more nimble. Perfect for a dairy farm 🇺🇸👍
@asquithmainlines699 Жыл бұрын
Those both look like nice units and would probably be a welcome addition to any farm. Unfortunately though I don’t think anything else compares to the maneuverability of a skid steer. I guess that is why you see so many skid steer, pay loader combinations.
@patricknesburg575 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling you would really like the power of the 3500 for cleaning out your new calf barn bedding
@bartpeeters1973 Жыл бұрын
We have the same G3500 we just use it side jobs because we load feed with nh t6 with front louder
@travisdarnell2663 Жыл бұрын
Keep your skidster for the small gobs
@alexanderwilson1806 Жыл бұрын
The one skid steer that wood work well for you would be jcb teleskid
@michaelzeigerman4273 Жыл бұрын
A lot less money spent on tires with these units. First thought I had, compared to a skid steer
@dirkus3722 Жыл бұрын
Yep that was my first thought as well.
@chasing_giants_tv_terrypeer Жыл бұрын
neat little machines there. if you had a bunch of round or square bale work it would be handy also. Just need everything a bit wider if you were going to use one all the time. thanks for another great video.
@lordofhowell7158 Жыл бұрын
Reminds of the jcb 407 I used to drive. Very handy bit of kit. Brilliant video 💪🏻 🏴
@dennisconlon5810 Жыл бұрын
See if you can find a drop off bucket. If you like the smaller machine but don’t have the height to get into the spreader, that type of bucket would work great. It also works great for back dragging when the bucket is open.
@francisunwin5463 Жыл бұрын
Should have a look at the avant loader can do the same and is smaller also has over 200 attachments and would be suitable for dairy farming work
@Canoga_Knuckles Жыл бұрын
New is always nice, I think if skid steer could come up with a telescopic bucket without extending the overall length too much but hey I drove trucks what do I know. But I did a haul milk when I drove trucks and I’m familiar with the fragrances
@ez1913 Жыл бұрын
The skid steer was built for cleaning crap out of pens. It's hard to beat it at that game. Nice edit, Eric. Thanks for sharing.
@lstan444 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the review
@BauerHermann1811 Жыл бұрын
I think you gave a good review on the wheel loaders, especially the bigger one. I could see our Farm run something like that if we had the money for it :-/ The main problem I see is that your farm is build around skid steers, so everything is quite tight. For example your calf barn and probably the slatted floor in the milk cow barn. Thats just build for skid steers and there wouldnt be a good way without compromises to be satisfied with just a Wheel Loader. But nontheless I can very well see you guys trade one skid steer in to buy a wheel loader with 80-100hp for Jobs that just require that bit more power and reach (if it fits the wallet of course XD) Great video as always and keep up your excellent work greetings from germany!
@borodimer Жыл бұрын
Those look like some pretty neat machines.
@kevinbutton4580 Жыл бұрын
If you had wider pens then these would be great...but for your guys setup I feel the skid steer just does it better.
@Designsbyg Жыл бұрын
I can see how something like the larger of the two could be very helpful on a farm of your size.
@notsoserious0944 Жыл бұрын
Cool! Might save on skid steer tires.
@frederikeliassen6322 Жыл бұрын
You should really consider buying it. I think it could be much more effective than it is right now
@gavinperry7237 Жыл бұрын
It says alot about the quality of your channel that equipment dealers are interested in letting you demo various pcs of equipment
@mattphillips4260 Жыл бұрын
i think with more seat time and have the extendable option on the smaller unit you may be able to get it to work for you
@robertschmidt9032 Жыл бұрын
Thank Eric for the video. For my 2 cents and that is all it is worth. I think the G3500 would be more useful the the smaller one. around the farm. I think that as a person uses them more you will learn more tricks to using them. Have a good day.
@Moneymaker701-h9b Жыл бұрын
Love what you do man definitely love where you are taking things love seeing it man and yeah skid loaders do have their perks that’s why it’s good to have one or two around but Blessing to you and the fam bro!!!!🙏🙏
@OldGuyAdventure Жыл бұрын
Watching other channels loaders are often used in Europe, and never see skid steer units. Saw a unit where they had an agitator on a bucket for silage (or in the case of Europe grass). Cole the cornstar, they got a JCB skid loader and they liked it because you enter from the side. Their loader is track but I think it also has a wheeled version.
@scrambler69-xk3kv Жыл бұрын
They just seem so wrong for barn clean out. But they look like they would be so good for so many other chores.
@joeyouruncle9850 Жыл бұрын
One thing I see if those hydraulic lines running under the boom need a shield over them, I can see at some point dumping into mixer or a dump truck getting to closer and the sides hitting those lines
@ethanw222 Жыл бұрын
It seems like if there was a size in between these two it would be perfect. A little extra reach than the 2700 to get over the feed mixer and a little tighter turn radius than the 3500 to get around the barn.
@lol-vz8kd Жыл бұрын
Good you made this video. I gonna try a Giant soon too.
@irvenrathburn9421 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Eric lots of info on loader's you could be a great salesman but I think the skid steer is better on your farm. The good thing about the loaders is they don't chew up tires. But the cost to replace the tires on the new machines would be a lot more, they are so much larger than the skid steer. But they are very nice machines Iam sure after a few days you would have it working like the skid steer just that learning curve.
@dingdongdaddytimanderson Жыл бұрын
Buy both of them.
@chucklesx Жыл бұрын
Very nice machines. I don't know if you have a dealer close to you but you could have a look at Kramer compact wheel loaders. They tend to be a little shorter wheelbase than the Giants because they are 4 wheel steer instead of articulated. 😊
@johnquinn3899 Жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate description of capabilities and desirable features Eric. What warranty comes with the machines and what do they list price at ??
@carynix8043 Жыл бұрын
Imo the skid steer maneuvers so much more efficiently in your operation but I did like the demo
@driversseat9801 Жыл бұрын
When you get stuck against a wall you can push down with the bucket to lift the front wheels ...then turn the steering wheel and that will bring your wheels away from the wall...then you lift the bucket and carry on...
@viclovingood3005 Жыл бұрын
That's what you need just for loading feed and used the skid steer for everything else.
@Michael-8903 Жыл бұрын
13:52 If you get stuck, lower the bucket and lift the front tires, turn away from the wall. Lift bucket and drive away.
@1drumsmoke Жыл бұрын
Giant for the outside and skid steer for inside!
@stevebiddle8912 Жыл бұрын
I can see the advantages you gain. How do these compare in price to a skid loader?
@10thgenerationdairyman Жыл бұрын
They cost maybe 50% more. That would have been something worth mentioning in the video.