Has Civivi Jumped The Shark With The Vision FG?

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[@gideonstactical]

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[@Gambit33]

This locking mechanism is so good and innovative, Demko copied it, modified it, rushed it out to market before Snecx could, and made a fortune from it. 😂

[@EDCandLace]

In a nutshell that is exactly what happened! The fidget boys really really love these type locks.

[@mattjones7433]

False! I know Andrew and John personally and they started working on the sharklock right after the AD15. Yes the patent was filed after the unveiling of the super lock but that doesn’t mean that they stole the design. Andrew showed me last time I was at the shop on his phone time stamp photo of the prototype sharklock. They took years to refine that as it was/ is a big innovation. You’re talking one of the worlds best knife makers. A legend in the knife world with the triad lock, then the scorpion lock now the sharklock :).

[@HarryBallsich]

@@mattjones7433 My friends dad works at Nintendo. I know insider secrets... What you don't believe me? All I got from your comment was an admittance that they stole the lock. "Yes the patent was filed after the unveiling of the super lock". As for your claim, proof or it didn't happen.

[@LanningKann]

@@mattjones7433then you also know that SNECX didn’t copy Demko. This is purely a case of two smart people designing a similar thing at a closely related time.

[@peen2804]

@@LanningKannbut that can’t be the case someone has to have copied the other that’s the way the world works because I’m 5 and anything non black and white is beyond my comprehension. Duh

[@adamlivingston6659]

The thorough information on this knife is extremely useful and your content is always great, sir!! Keep it up, Aaron and crew.

[@gideonstactical]

Thanks so much really means a lot!!

[@gregvanderlip7726]

Great information brother thanx for a nice gaw opportunity love the work you put out

[@gideonstactical]

Much appreciated

[@mr.crumbles2557]

Thank you for the really balanced review. The handle boxiness is something I hadnt seen mentioned anywhere. Cant deny i love that bladeshape tho, so good for everything and easy to sharpen

[@gideonstactical]

Thanks so much and agree the grind and blade are really well done.

[@edc4fun]

Appreciate the testing. Thanks

[@gideonstactical]

No problem!

[@SeniorSupreme]

I really like my vision fg. I bent the clip down to fix the duck bill. I tilted it towards the center speed hole. It’s really comfy now. Also threw in some skiff bearings. No play, locked or unlocked. It’s a great knife imo.

[@TheCcmarine]

First off being a leftie I always appreciate a reversible pocket clip and the super lock is also ambi. Second I love that blade shape with dual thumb studs. The overall look of the knife is cool too.

[@LegoBluesummers]

The locking bar is also the detent. This is likely the cause of your squeaking. The locking insert riding on the blade as you open it. It could just be the coatings causing it

[@gideonstactical]

I think u might be right

[@edwardgriswold7222]

Great review, I've been looking at the Vision. Your review answered a lot of the questions I had.

[@gideonstactical]

Glad I could help

[@jonathanklein7875]

I have the jade G10 version. I agree with you that some more chamfering or contouring would have helped, and some scalloping out of the scale behind the choil to both index your index finger and provide more clearance for the thumbstuds. I also wish the steel liners were skeletonized more than just the "speed holes" for more weight relief. I think Civivi cut a few manufacturing corners, knowing they would sell on the lock alone and they could hit their margins.

[@cheeriosb63]

Thanks for the videos! Been following since the beginning and green background.

[@stevegoodwin803]

Excellent review. Well done, Aaron.

[@gideonstactical]

Thanks so much really appreciate it

[@leeweisberg4045]

Great video keep them coming

[@Rhubarb2]

Another excellent review, thanks mate

[@gideonstactical]

No problem 👍

[@FARACI1]

It looks like a really nice blade really good design I like the curvature in it for an EDC and I really think that’s a good grind and will be quite effective. Thanks for another great video.

[@gideonstactical]

Thanks for watching

[@michaelblanton9949]

Nice review. The blade shape, similar to CRK’s Insingo, is my favorite for EDC - especially occasional food prep.

[@anuragkakkar9218]

Somehow I am liking its locking system and the way you were maneuvering on the cardboard.

[@gideonstactical]

It is quick!

[@URPLENINJA]

Really like you vid on this knife and different locks. Thanks and God bless.

[@scottbenefield3184]

Enjoyed that I was curious about the lock

[@Tuskevari]

Great informative video, thank you! This folder' coolness indicate a quick purchase...

[@gideonstactical]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DiamondEDC]

I also had that rattling issue. I returned it for a satin model and haven't had any issues.

[@timtitus2532]

I am waiting for my vision to arrive. I already have the conspirator. The issue with the pocket clip has been identified by other reviewers and I plan on getting a replacement titanium clip, but I'm going to wait until I have it in hand to make the final decision on that. Good review. Thanks

[@user-xe7dz5vg5v]

You are the best thanks for your videos❤❤

[@user-kw2en7fr5n]

its november 2 2023 and i just recieved my vision from amazon and i love it. im at the part of your video with the squeeking, i gotta tell you my knife has no squeek what so ever. im deploying the blade like a madman and it sounds amazing. maybe the squeek has come from the testing... anyways on with your video, thanks by the way....

[@OtherThanIntendedPurpose]

interesting design. something I would like to get a chance to use for a few days to build an opinion on. thanks for the first look.

[@gideonstactical]

No problem thanks for watching!

[@maxlvledc]

I love that sound! Hahaha, so funny. I like loud unique knife sounds.

[@ml8067]

I have Nitro-V on my Civivi Nox. It is not a bad steel. I like the concept of the super lock. Like the ambidextrous nature of it. I do like the overall look of the knife.

[@MHollywood5]

Came dull af out the box, just got mine.

[@homeskateco.538]

I love the design on this knife - good to see it put through its paces! I would love to win this. Thanks Gideon!

[@AlexandStuff]

Recently picked this up and I love it. Super fidgit friendly and solid fit and finish. Only thing I dont like is the location of the clip. Wish it was more centered or even opposide side so its closer to the corner of my pocket.

[@gideonstactical]

I didn’t even pick up on that, but you are right 👍

[@gabedavis4458]

I do love some Nitro V! Tough and stainless. Locking? Compression lock is good. Axis lock, good too. The CJRB button locks have been rock solid too. I only have the one civivi button lock so far, the first button lock elementum. It's pretty good too, locks up tight

[@maxlvledc]

You need to try it with food prep..that is where it really excells

[@KLINGBART]

Is it better than PM2 at that?

[@alpine1600s]

The WE version lock bar is similar how the cold steel Bushman ram safe lock could come out if you pulled it back far enough.

[@playascap]

I used green honing wax to lightly smooth out some of the contact surfaces inside the knife, and that took care of squeaks on the lock and deployment. I think the finish on the internal metals arnt refined being 80$ Luckily, I like refining my all my stuff😊

[@alanmccoll6490]

I was actually thinking of buying this knife. There are so many good knives it’s hard to narrow it down to one since I don’t order knives often since they are costly. Good video take care.

[@fernandolor4187]

Nice review 👍

[@Hungrybird474]

The kizer titanium clip or miguron ti clip works great 👍

[@cmoorhead1]

Bought this and the Civivi milled titanium clip at the same time. Like you, I also prefer the Conspirator. I like the super lock but I find myself constantly trying to use it as a flipper to deploy the blade.

[@chadjordan9382]

Civivi and we are killing it.

[@gideonstactical]

Many designs are awesome

[@TheLegoJoker]

I’m loving the Civivi Vision. Didn’t like the clip location or the thumb hole on the WE version so I let it go. The thumb studs and side clip take this knife to the next level. This is what I wish the WE version was. I don’t feel a hot spot when using it, although I could see where it could grab something if I bump into it. Definitely my favorite Civivi by far.

[@seppukusushi2848]

Seems like a ripoff of the Chris Reeve Insingo blade design. I've been seeing a lot of Chinese ripoffs of original high end knives. They're the most unoriginal people ever.

[@John-gu7jq]

Another great review. Still not sure how I feel about the super lock. I look forward to all your videos

[@brettt1268]

This is such a cool looking knife

[@gyan6375]

Looks like a nice slicer.

[@ZiGGi03]

I did the same thing with my We version and mine squeaks I hit it a few times on the lock somewhere inside their is rubbing . I took it apart and cleaned it and sanded /filed the blade to remove the coating on the blade and bow theirs bone . The squeaking problems most likely are self inflicted. So not really a reason not to get the knife . If you want it of course

[@carmelotansengco4605]

I bought the natural G10 with satin Nitro V blade. I agree with you with regards to the Conspirator. I really love mine. Have you tried out the Sentinel Strike? I have the all black version with green FRN. I think you're going to like that. Great review. Thanks.

[@anthonyschutz7201]

I have the vision, and i have no complaints at all. I havent used it for hard use yet but it feels good for me. Id love to see the lock on another design but this one works good enough for now

[@kevinhauser8250]

I keep wanting to pick up that civivi in the exact pattern you have but with the economy the way it is I just don't have the money. But it's definitely cool.

[@richardhenry1969]

Don't see me giving up my Triad-lock.

[@KniceKnafs]

I love my vision fg! Never left my pocket since i got it a few weeks ago.

[@darkspector]

Squeeking is the return spring in the lock bar and my version had dry AF bearings. Disassembled and slathered, way more then necessary, heavy grease in the spring recess. Be careful when you disassemble, spring might fly out. Put some light oil on the bearing, be carefull if you have transparent scales like the ultem.. too much oil will leak and cause the back to look "clear". Much better sounding after this easy work.

[@fishingjoe683]

Now that I’ve saw that pocket clip I would definitely try to alter that curve

[@jwquan]

I like this knive, but I will like in drones wash Blade with Micarta. The way you test it really show the well bilt the knive is

[@speterj]

You can take out the lock mechanism if you remove a stop pin when you disassemble the knife.

[@richlpz]

Mine squeezed when I pulled back the bar. Not sure if that’s what you are hearing. I fixed it by putting a little bit of pivot lube on the spring and it fixed it. And it doesn’t leak since it’s enclosed by the liners.

[@richlpz]

Oh and also if you do want to access the lock like the we version you can remove that pin and it’ll function the exact same.

[@madrapperdave]

What's with the titlecard? A joke? Why? Or is it just clickbait?

[@garygraham4571]

Beautiful knife 🔪

[@smallaxe7225]

The clip does suck, but I took mine off gave it a little bend down near the bill end of the longer hole, then straightened the bill, and loosened the tension on the bend at the screw end. The factory clip is now perfect after 15 minutes working on it. If you don't like a stainless steel clip just get a little western with it and maybe you'll love it.

[@charlescollier7217]

Thanks for this, Aaron. The innovative lock, blade shape, design, fit/finish, and price all make this a winner for me, and the downsides seem minimal, in my view. Given the choice between this and the Conspirator, I'm definitely picking both. 😅

[@gideonstactical]

Couldn't agree more!

[@eyeofthetiger4184]

G'day Charles, hahaha, that sure takes "one or the other" out of the equation mate. I meant to ask you previously if you're a "folder guy" ............. I'll take that as a "yes". Btw; the Mini Duku and Argo 800 have been coming up aces.👍👍 $$$, 👍👍$$$ .... i.e. double thumbs up for each in use and both excellent value for money. One could easily argue, ... they're all you'd ever need, .................. anyway, ......... back to reality ; ) Cheers Duke.

[@seppukusushi2848]

Seems like a ripoff of the Chris Reeve Insingo blade design. I've been seeing a lot of Chinese ripoffs of original high end knives. They're the most unoriginal people ever.

[@charlescollier7217]

@@eyeofthetiger4184 Hey Duke! I missed this message. Glad to hear you're enjoying them - I know I do! However, I'll ask that you refrain from that blasphemous "you've got enough knives," stuff. 🙃

[@eyeofthetiger4184]

@@charlescollier7217 G'day Charles, bahaha, no worries mate, consider it done. Btw; have you acquired any interesting blades lately ?, or perhaps I should ask ....... which ones ; )

[@mattvanderwalt6220]

Should make a good edc as well as food prep. Nice all round blade shape.

[@everydaypracticalsurvival8582]

Always love an ambi lock.

[@KMSETTE1966]

Beautiful knife!!🤤

[@robthompson8285]

I bought the Vision FG and there is a definite breaking in period of that Lock's spring

[@jasonmccomas7220]

Lmao!!!! I knew what you were going to say when you said there was something that annoyed you! I got the knife center exclusive s35vn and carbon fiber and mine squeaks here and there! It’s so funny to find out it’s not just my knife but apparently a quirk of the design. I do love this knife regardless.

[@Whatdayawanttodowithyourlife]

I suggest Hammertime to the pocketclip💪🔨 😊. The squeek doesnt sound too bad, can prob be heard better in person.. Does oil have any affect on the squeek or is it in the design? I would shape the edges with some sandpaper. Agee. The Rats are customizable to each hand. Gave an Elmax knife to a buddy a couple years ago. Still his edc.

[@booperthebest1501]

Looking to get my first knife, and the Damascus version is looking quite attractive to me

[@Logan2070]

Triad lock has no peer for strength, but for edc, an axis/bar lock is the easiest to use and still won't fail.

[@NoxiousButtSpray]

until your light gauge omega spring breaks

[@bezimienny_andzej6425]

It doesn't really matter how "strong" these locks are, because even liner lock will not fail under realistic conditions. And everything that is not liner/frame lock, and isn't based on bending a piece of steel, will be more than strong enough even for extreme use. The whole trick at this point is to create locks that are simple, hard to break, hard to gunk up and easy to use.

[@NoxiousButtSpray]

@@bezimienny_andzej6425 it matters even less when you realize a slip joint is perfectly fine for anything you want to do with a folder anyway.

[@The4cp]

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[@NoxiousButtSpray]

@@The4cp it you need a lock, you'll probably do better to use a fixed blade 😉

[@r0ckworthy]

I wonder if some silicone spray lube would soak into the bearing and lubricate that squeak away. Also silicone is great for water resistance.

[@olaf2554]

that sound might be from the coating. might be worth exchanging for a non coated one to see if you have same problem

[@gideonstactical]

Good point 👍

[@djspeece]

Great review. Love Civivi knives, and I have to many if you were to ask my wife. 😂

[@gideonstactical]

Right on!

[@The4cp]

I actually like the lock. Anything that isn't a liner lock at this point is a good thing. Just an opinion but liner lock to me just says cheap ,lazy ,and outdated. Especially when there are better locking systems out there.

[@gideonstactical]

I tend to agree, liner lock is my least favorite. I prefer to liner locks

[@evile1174]

I couldn’t agree more! I am over liner and frame locks! So many better options nowadays

[@barryjames1203]

Totally agree. Hate the cheap feel of a liner lock!

[@schrodingerscat20]

I have one in G10. I love the lock. I don't have a Demko a20.5 as I think for the materials used the knife is overpriced.

[@TobsterGO]

I also had an very annoying squeak coming from the lockbar on my damascus vision fg. Eventually I took the whole knife apart and cleaned the whole lockbar and coated the lock barin a very thin film of WD40. I think it was coming from the side of the spring rubbing on the sides. so that got a little extra WD40. and now the thing is as quiet as a mouse:-)

[@danielj2564]

Good looking knife

[@maverick4462]

I love all the innovation we are seeing these days. That said, I edc my svord peasant the most. Just, fast, simple, never felt like i might fold it on my fingers.

[@lalli8152]

Yeah, and isnt the peasant that you also keep the knife open by holding the tang thing so its less likely to happen than slipjoint

[@jkukurugya]

Yeah, I'd definitely bend down that pocket clip, heck I usually end up slightly flattening all my pocket clips so that one would definitely get the treatment, lol. Love that blade design though so may have to give this one some thought.

[@jarrods1908]

Knife looks clean

[@handymanmaloy]

My demko 20.5 does that exact same squeak. It’s annoying as hell like you said lol but still rock solid.

[@kenmarapese9085]

A midst the super hype of the Demko 20.5 I anxiously waited for mine. Ends up I'm not a fan the that lock, the tip of my finger gets sore after actuating a couple of times and in depending the position of my hand it can be difficult to close.

[@gideonstactical]

This one is definitely easier on the fingers.

[@wgkincheloe2458]

I love my Vision FG, OD version. My OG Elementum BL was my favorite Civivi until I got this. Have lots of nerve damage in my hands after 4 spine surgeries, and this is not only very easy for my hands to manipulate, but also safer especially on the close. I've gravitated towards button, axis, and compression locks, but the super lock is definitely my favorite.

[@charlesdudek7713]

Nice thorough review as usual. 👍 Off topic of the knife, I am curious as to what brand and model that backpack is behind you.

[@gideonstactical]

Mystery ranch in and out 22 did a video last year on it. 👍 always appreciated the comments, and questions 👍

[@charlesdudek7713]

@@gideonstactical Thanks! I'll have to check that out.

[@charlesdudek7713]

@@gideonstactical That backpack video was very helpful. Thanks again!

[@Lost666Child]

That sound is no longer on mine. The lock does rub when it’s engaging. All my paint has come off. Oil and is very quiet.

[@HamBone86]

So is this considered to be a wharncliffe, reverse tanto and sheep’s foot all-in-1? I have this knife and love it and I’ve always debated on which style blade it is. It says reverse tanto on the Civivi description page, but can see how it could be a sheep’s foot and wharncliffe also.

[@zer0bytes2000]

It seems to bounce out of the detent when you close it sometimes. Demko shark lock doesn't bounce out of its detent when closing it for me.

[@olivierbatiste6035]

Its design is reminding me the Kizer Converse, just the size above with this one.

[@taylorfishman823]

I've had my Vision FG for over a week and it hasn't left my pocket. If you know how many knives I have as other options, you'd realize how big a deal that is. 😂 I haven't really thought of the handle as boxy but I see what you mean. Hasn't bothered me but everyone's hand is different. But yeah the clip is such a big fail that should have been easily avoidable. It really digs into your palm, I can't imagine what they were thinking with that. I bought one of the Civivi clips off of Amazon that has the storm anodization, it's titanium and they come in a set of two for like $12, I used the smaller one in the set and it has been way better in appearance and comfort. The bill of this clip sticks up way less than the stock clip does. As to the sound, mine doesn't squeak but it is more like a "schwick" sound, not that high pitched and I think it makes it sound really cool. I have the satin blade, maybe the coating on that blade is why yours is more of a squeak...might wear in and be toned down over time.

[@geraldwiedemann2126]

Yep I hear the squeaks.😢

[@WDMguy]

its a huge value at this price point

[@shallmaneser]

I maybe wrong, and they do call it superlock, but I don't think they sell it as a SUPER lock. It you get what I'm saying!!!

[@ZiGGi03]

I totally agree the super lock on other civi knives I’d be more excited for . I already own the WE version so any other knife with that lock id be super happy buying any day of the week . Great video as always my dude !

[@MrLlama999]

I really home they make a 3 in. version. I’m considering taking one to a bench grinder.

[@LRRP69]

Not sure if the super lock is for me or not.would have to get online my hand to see

[@Madman6505]

My AD 20.5 squeaks but my Vision does not. The super lock makes for a very smooth feeling deployment, kind of like Spyderco's caged ball lock on the Manix 2, but lighter.

[@chrisdyck6524]

I simply screwed the clip from the Böker Magnum blue Jay onto the Civivi Vision fg. Visually, in terms of feel and in everyday life, it fits perfectly. 😅🤷‍♂️👍

[@barrybueler3356]

Love the handle material and blade shape would love to win 😊 🙏.

[@coreybikes]

Pop a Civivi Ti clip on it. No hot spot. I've also seen a Kizer Sheepdog clip used.

[@DrGruesome]

Did you try putting some lube in the pivot to help with that mouse sound? Great video, looking at getting a vision FG myself! =)

[@zachmurry7912]

Same squeak happens on my AD 20.5

[@steviesawesomevideos4786]

Love it… hope to win it.

[@tobydelahoussaye8630]

Really like the blade shape and look of the knife. But that off set belt clip thows it off.

[@krefcenz]

Aaron given that the bill on the pocket clip is a major weakness, do you have a recommendation on an after market pocket clip? Thx. Paul