Gilead: analyzing a cult graduation ceremony

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AltWorldly

AltWorldly

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@escon4428
@escon4428 6 ай бұрын
How does “just shovel the coal” work if you notice a leak or some problem in the ship? Do you just shut up and “trust the captain”? This makes no sense. How can people swallow this?? This is a major reason why csa is so rife in this cult! An also, just saying, this dude sounds like a talking watchtower. He definitely writes them lol
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 6 ай бұрын
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
@SystemFailing
@SystemFailing 6 ай бұрын
Some may have NOTICED that I didn’t cover the first talk in the broadcast…but I did! I had a whole nitpick segment, but I ended up realizing I was wrong about the thing I was nitpicking lol. So that segment (along with a couple other cut segments) will be uploaded for patrons soon!
@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771
@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771 5 ай бұрын
This was your best scripted review yet IMO. You brought up things I wouldn't have thought of. Thank you!
@bearwoody
@bearwoody 6 ай бұрын
"New Arrangement" simply means "New Rules." Think about why they don't want to use the word "Rules."
@TheVillainOfTheYear
@TheVillainOfTheYear 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a real doctor, I just play one in the Bible.
@Luke-f2f
@Luke-f2f 6 ай бұрын
You know the GB is desperate when they are basically saying "Just shut up and drink the koolaid!."😂
@jogosdiversos9757
@jogosdiversos9757 6 ай бұрын
"I am a physician, like my father before me" - Luke
@chariethe
@chariethe 6 ай бұрын
did he make out with his sister
@rhecb
@rhecb 6 ай бұрын
@@chariethe I bet Caleb makes out with Sophia 😑👿
@LePedantSemantique
@LePedantSemantique 3 ай бұрын
Although I like the points you’re making, 6:04 “Bugsy Exo-Skeleton Man” sent me through the roof! 😄😂🤣😅
@ericerpelding2348
@ericerpelding2348 6 ай бұрын
It is the duty of every crew member to speak up if they see something that doesn't appear right on the ship
@TheTwilitHero
@TheTwilitHero 6 ай бұрын
Please don't stop doing the YTP edits. They're my favourite part of the channel.
@zemuellerz
@zemuellerz 6 ай бұрын
You’re very funny and this was entertaining AF
@GoodestGOAT
@GoodestGOAT 6 ай бұрын
31:06 "All aboard the toxic gossip train!" 🎶
@marshallh7
@marshallh7 4 ай бұрын
Excellent commentary AltWordly. Very smart. At about 24:00 where you get into Eddy Algen’s talk, that is some of the very best ex-jay-dub commentary I’ve ever heard. Perfect. Support the “arrangement.”
@cpk333
@cpk333 6 ай бұрын
Man, I remember as a JW thinking that they were the best teachers ever. Now it's obvious how it's all just been cookie cutter, fallacy filled bs.
@skepticusmaximus184
@skepticusmaximus184 6 ай бұрын
Ugh! Crispy cut cookies, filled with sweet creamy fallacy bs.... Gugluhgluhgluhg 😛 You're making me hungry.
@ramrod576
@ramrod576 6 ай бұрын
Sucks being gaslit into believing an alternate truth. Looking at everyone else like they are crazy. When we are the ones brainwashed...
@theresefournier3269
@theresefournier3269 6 ай бұрын
​@@ramrod576Have a YAHsome rest of your life❤ Freedom, peace, and joy, are too precious🤔 and non-negotiable inherent gifts from above which alone, brings the heavenly promised kingdom one's own h-eart and nothing on eart-h beats that.
@gr8lydeceved663
@gr8lydeceved663 6 ай бұрын
What they fail to tell you .......is you're shoving the coal......sure, on the Titanic
@GoodestGOAT
@GoodestGOAT 6 ай бұрын
the ship/shoveling coal illustration is hilarious, if you were a passenger on this JW ship, as you were shoveling spiritual coal you would've heard from the captain on the intercom "we will reach our destination in mile marker 1914!... wait no, 1925!" Obviously both markers were missed, then the captain proclaims mile 1914 was actually a significant mark and that within less than 100 miles they would reach their destination, very likely they would reach it at mile "1975!" 1975 comes and goes, and about 20 miles later, the ship does a full 180 degree turn, captain says "it was wrong to count from 1914 but we will surely arrive at our destination very soon!" Then 20 miles after that, the ship once again does a full 180 degree turn, and the captain says his initial calculations were wrong, "counting from mile 1914 was actually justified, now at mile 2015, we're surely less than 100 miles away from our destination!" Any person reading this can tell the captain is completely lost in this illustration, it'd be wise to question him. But the JWs are expected to nonetheless shovel the spiritual coal until the whole ship eventually sinks
@TheVillainOfTheYear
@TheVillainOfTheYear 6 ай бұрын
Next overused word super cut candidate: "consider."
@a_l_l_i_s_o_n__
@a_l_l_i_s_o_n__ 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! The edits were perfect.
@JamesPowellActor
@JamesPowellActor 6 ай бұрын
Best line: "A good natured prank...like jury duty" 😄
@jodybennett8800
@jodybennett8800 6 ай бұрын
Another great video. I have learned so much from your content and always enjoy it. I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian church, but thankfully, got out of it by my early teens. But much of your JW experiences are familiar, although less severe in my case. Thanks for all that you do.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 6 ай бұрын
Jehovah has wants and needs - just like his creators.
@rockpadstudios
@rockpadstudios 6 ай бұрын
seriously - he has no beginning and no end but he plays games with us.
@sjoerdglaser2794
@sjoerdglaser2794 6 ай бұрын
I have to admit, this guy is the best speaker in the broadcast I've ever heard! Finally someone who does not speak in the same monotone voice
@DamonKClark
@DamonKClark 5 ай бұрын
These guys and the snippets of the talks are super creepy and triggering, BUT AltWorldly, YOU are absolutely HILARIOUS!!!!
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 6 ай бұрын
Was about to critique the idea of Luke being there in the garden to 'notice' blood in sweat, when you started to explain it. The reality is that all of the four gospels had names added later, to make it seem by people closer to eyewitnesses, when none of them claim that.
@notyomonky
@notyomonky 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Another important one. I commented here before Ed Aljian actually gave my wedding talk. I knew him well enough I took weekend trips with him and his wife, though I wouldn’t say we were close. Ed was definitely a true believer and a good speaker. I wonder if him referencing some old Tony material has set off any alarms. I like your point about like Luke being a physician. I mean, how serious could you take him? He didn’t even practice bloodletting. Apparently a degree in poultices is enough to impress Watchtower.
@rdalton7557
@rdalton7557 6 ай бұрын
They use the Biblical word "united", but mean "uniform". Think about a football game. The players on the field not only dress uniformly, but they act uniformly. The players closely follow the instructions of their leaders (coaches). Players get tossed for not following instructions. The fans have differing opinions about who should be playing, what plays should be called, coaching decisions, whether or not they even attend a game. However, they are united as fans of the team. Jesus didn't call us to uniformity.
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 6 ай бұрын
Not a sports person, but surely a team whilst united in one uniform don't act uniformly? They have different roles and skills, from goal keeper and defenders to the offense positions aiming to get goals/points etc Totally agree that unity doesn't mean uniformity and Jesus didn't ask for uniform clones.
@rhecb
@rhecb 6 ай бұрын
Edward Algen could be the Warden of the prison in Shawshank Redemption
@Smashingblouse
@Smashingblouse 6 ай бұрын
Oh boy I could rant for hours but I won’t. Maybe. The whole sisters wearing trousers thing only came out in my dad’s congregation this winter (it’s pretty cold in England) and he looked at me so excitedly when he told me. I think he expected me to say “wow, that’s it! That’s what has convinced me to come back to the hall. That AND beards?! Sign me up”. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@tashathayer4069
@tashathayer4069 6 ай бұрын
Going should be the important part. Had I heard that,I might say would God mind if I wore a skirt,dress or lessen the Risk of getting Sick. ✌
@caitlynnicholas990
@caitlynnicholas990 6 ай бұрын
I love to hate when these grown men use the word fussy. *shudder*
@hellokitty-65-s7z
@hellokitty-65-s7z 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate. I appreciate Jehovahs new arrangememt. I appreciated the reminders in the ralk today. I really appreciated the advice given on my part. Don't you appreciate everything the governing body is doing for you? Appreciate is one of the words overly utilized.
@lancerchoate3342
@lancerchoate3342 6 ай бұрын
Good point made .... I keep hearing ppl saying there's a mass exodus out of the Org. I wish but I'm not seeing that. Apathy? Stagnation? For sure ....
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 6 ай бұрын
Watchtower is in collapse; yes, mass exodus.
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 6 ай бұрын
Wow! you can say a polite hello to someone entering the building to share in your group's meeting! Just don't make too much chat, not until the elders say so by reinstating them
@dannycasey8261
@dannycasey8261 6 ай бұрын
At around 24 minutes Lill Lett said Strong feelings while stroking his fist up and down twice. WTH was that about? 😂😊
@Zekrom569
@Zekrom569 4 ай бұрын
Luke be like Greys anatomy: Bible edition. I think for me the most creepy speaker i have seen until now is Stephen Lett, his facial contortions probably lie somewhere in the uncanny valley. His face is literally the stereotypical doomsday cult leader. Yep, JW governing body is "manipulation station" and "apostates" are "the toxic gossip train" 😅😅 "Support the new arrangement without resistance" is like the meme "congratulations, you're being rescued...please dont resist"...Which i think it applies to most Christian denominations
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 6 ай бұрын
Old man tremors. I'm 52 and i have them. My dad had his first stroke at age 47 got diagnosed with Parkinson's at 55 so yeah.
@robotaholic
@robotaholic 6 ай бұрын
You're like graduating from gilead and the speaker says I hope you like duck. 😅 omg id really freak out lmao
@ExJwMJ
@ExJwMJ 6 ай бұрын
Great cover. Your videos get better and better each time. You speak Troof. (The hostile JWDUBS are pouring into this comment) Edit: Still watching btw lol
@f4rnsworth138
@f4rnsworth138 6 ай бұрын
Some families were anti-luck and They'd say "fortune" instead. Like Good Fortune instead of Good Luck. It's not an official thing AFAIK, but some obsessed over it. I think it might be regional. My family wasn't like that but my best friend's family was. They also couldn't have pictures of unicorns or other mythological creatures. In my family we could watch Disney movies with magic like Aladdin and all the rest, but live action magic movies were not allowed. It was weird but I always knew not to make a big deal over it or my dad would ban even Disney movies. It was ridiculous
@altworldly
@altworldly 6 ай бұрын
lol yes even as a witness I wasn’t sure why “fortune” was in any way better than luck!
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 6 ай бұрын
I grew up in the 70s and 80s. Nothing was off limits as far as cartoons or movies or video games. My parents told us the magic and sci-fi was all made up so as long as you didn't believe it's true it's ok and they trusted us. We watched Star Trek and Monty Python. I remember watching Raiders of the Lost Ark with dad and when the dude's face melted he grabbed his Bible and showed me in Zechariah where that would happen in Armageddon. But if you said holy moly or good luck you're in trouble. Haircut had to be above the ears. Playing baseball and football after school with neighborhood kids was ok but you can't join the school team. Though when one of us had a birthday he's lead us all at the dinner table with a HAPPY BIRTHDATE so and so. So pretty inconsistent I guess but more lenient than most?
@f4rnsworth138
@f4rnsworth138 6 ай бұрын
@@cygnustsp wow that's way more lenient than most I knew. Sounds as inconsistent as my family though. We were allowed to watch Star Wars and Trek, and Indy, except for the second one. I guess magic was fine if it was something they could spin as biblical like the first and third movies, but the second one was pagan, so that was bad. I watched it in my 20s and my dad had a fit. Lol
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 6 ай бұрын
@@f4rnsworth138 the JWs were all in love with the third Indy movie because of him saying Jehovah, one elder even gave a talk and said "you know how the stones would cry out if they have to? Well if we don't do such a good job making Jehovah's name known at least Indiana Jones will." I think it might be a regional thing, I grew up in metro Buffalo NY so we also loved our sports. If there was a Bills game at 1:00 and their congregation was the afternoon one they'd switch and go to the morning meeting so they could watch the Bills. Dress code and grooming was strict though. Once the Watchtower reader didn't show up so I got asked to do it but then they told me I couldn't because I wasn't wearing a full suit. Another dude had a skin condition so couldn't shave and he felt compelled to go around telling everyone he wasn't falling out of the truth. I watch a lot of outsider criticisms of the JWs but none of them know what it's really like, it is so weird to look back and say yeah I was a part of that craziness and I accepted it, just like this dude's talk, get fooled and accept the arrangement.
@Mattukexjw
@Mattukexjw 6 ай бұрын
My step father had a thing against ET, he said that it was really the story of Jesus because ET died, came back to life and then went back to heaven in a spaceship 😂😂 oh and ET cured stuff by touching it, just like Jesus!! 😂😂😂
@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere
@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere 6 ай бұрын
That talk on doubts...lol...Like my favorite Book of Mormon song "Turn it Off .. like a light switch"
@sifisovic7
@sifisovic7 6 ай бұрын
The stretch from 35:31 to 36:00 is the funniest, Jesus 🤣🤣
@TechyBen
@TechyBen 6 ай бұрын
Just clicked, so not watched yet, but yeah, some of those still left alive in my family, are aging out as bethel workers. "It must be true" because they gave their entire life to it... and they have nothing in old age should it turn out to be a cult!
@lawrence8374
@lawrence8374 6 ай бұрын
Thier shoveling something but it ain't coal....😮
@nickking8994
@nickking8994 6 ай бұрын
Much better than your livestreams. Well done!
@SimplyLore
@SimplyLore 6 ай бұрын
A compliment would have been "Even better than your livestreams". Just saying 😶‍🌫️
@nickking8994
@nickking8994 6 ай бұрын
@@SimplyLore I happen to not enjoy his live streams, but I enjoy his scripted work, and wanted to tell the truth from my viewpoint.
@SimplyLore
@SimplyLore 6 ай бұрын
@@nickking8994 alright. Honesty is the best policy I guess
@ramrod576
@ramrod576 6 ай бұрын
Luke wasn't there? Like at all? Like even at the dinner. What is happening
@altworldly
@altworldly 6 ай бұрын
I know right? I didn’t know WT taught that, but it’s right there in their study material!
@ramrod576
@ramrod576 6 ай бұрын
"Lukes a physician" thing is them trying leech of the trust people have in doctors.
@Lulu-oi9ue
@Lulu-oi9ue 6 ай бұрын
My hubby and I bumped into one of the servants of the elders in our old congregation. I was soo shocked to see him with a full beard especially since he would always pick on my husband for his beard. He was notorious for harassing him and just wouldn’t let it go. What a hypocrite. In fact all the elders and their henchmen would always be super creepy and confront you with weird conversations . Glad we are out.
@renbrown8895
@renbrown8895 6 ай бұрын
Omg yay, watching rfn ❤
@incognito_JW
@incognito_JW 6 ай бұрын
Its one thing to get complex prophecy wrong or have to revisit (which isn't good)....but it's like a new low for what should be a doctorate/professor of the ORG giving a commencement speech to the next "protectors of the faith" in which its made obvious the person giving the speech doesn't have a clue who Luke was - yet he specially CHOOSES Luke to talk about!!!!! Shocking...but I say this wouldn't have happened 20+ years ago.
@lawrence8374
@lawrence8374 6 ай бұрын
If the gb is neither divinely inspired or infallible how can they say j has lead them or directed them anywhere or concerning anything?
@stevenparkin6486
@stevenparkin6486 6 ай бұрын
Hello Alt. I like your channel, and have enjoyed a half dozen episodes. This is good stuff; for me, it's a fun way to learn about the JW religion. At time code 37:03 , you said that JWs should not say the word "Luck". What's up with that? I'm not JW and a total outsider. I'm guessing that talking about Luck implies "black magic, the occult, or superstition"; and that JWs feel that category is controlled by Satan. I supposes that a good JW would not watch magician, David Copperfield, and worse, if he was performing in the sin-city of Las Vegas. Do members of JW live in Vegas? If so, what do they do for employment there? Maybe you don't know but what is your best guess?
@altworldly
@altworldly 6 ай бұрын
The “luck” thing goes back to JW superstition about anything with (their words) “pagan origins.” The way I heard it growing up, saying “good luck” was calling upon the goddess of luck. We also would not say “bless you” after someone sneezes, because the origin of that tradition was pagan (like, ancient people thought sneezing was expelling bad spirits, so people would say bless you? Something like that) There are JWs who live in Vegas and vacation there. I don’t know for sure but it may be culturally frowned upon to work in a casino? I don’t think there’s a hard rule about that though.
@scottjones3411
@scottjones3411 6 ай бұрын
This was excellent.
@Makesomesparemoney-js2kt
@Makesomesparemoney-js2kt 6 ай бұрын
The governing body has decided, not Jehovah has decided. Like putting a governing body over Jehovah. Not taking out the Bible to see why. My perception, I see them having said that as Jehovah had it wrong and the governing body is right. My perception is that they are trying to take the worship for themselves. That's what Satan tried to do to Jesus is to give Satan only one act of worship. It is that Jehovah was never wrong and the governing body was not led by Jehovah and Jehovah had it right all the time and the governing body had it wrong.
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 6 ай бұрын
The governing body is "Jehovah."
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 3 ай бұрын
When you say 10 minutes long, do you meam Bible minutrs or worldly minutes?
@courtneypuzzo2502
@courtneypuzzo2502 6 ай бұрын
there are secular colleges and universities that have been graduating students longer than the Giliad has such as Harvard University Dartmouth College etc. and the oldest prep school in the US is Boston Latin School which was established in 1635 for grades 7-12 around 30% of students are white similar percentage are Asian 20% Hispanic 10% African American and 10% native American/Pacific Islander and there's roughly 2,500 students or 417 in each grade student to teacher ratio is 26 to 1 my high school alma mater Revere High Revere Mass has a student teacher ratio of 15 students to 1 teacher
@Alyse_bell
@Alyse_bell 6 ай бұрын
It’s the obvious gaslighting around the change in the beard policy. Lett coming on and saying basically “what are you talking about we’ve never had a problem with beards. Don’t know where you all got that from” instead of coming out and saying “we have decided to change this policy”
@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere
@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere 6 ай бұрын
Is that Rudy Giuliani 's brother?
@SystemFailing
@SystemFailing 6 ай бұрын
Omg he totally does look like Giuliani!
@schueylerblack1852
@schueylerblack1852 6 ай бұрын
Covel the shoal!!! I hated that talk. Woulda kept me in the cult for a bit too
@vaughnrobinson4042
@vaughnrobinson4042 6 ай бұрын
JWs have a metaphysical truth that transcends any corresponding or correlating truths. They can take the most circuitous route around facts to be able to get to their ultimate truth. You see it with the Luke/physician thing. When you question the bible or the teaching with facts that contradict either one, they say that we don’t understand Jehovah’s ways but have to do it anyway. If I can’t understand Jehovah’s ways, what makes them think they can understand when they say humans can’t understand his ways? 🤷‍♂
@geoffreybunting9837
@geoffreybunting9837 6 ай бұрын
At 29.46 How can one set aside the falsity of 607 to 1914 and all its consequences, namely that the religion is false. The whole point of setting aside doubts is eventually to forget that one has done it and why
@asapstan
@asapstan 6 ай бұрын
@6:15 if skelator became a JW,I this is what he'd look like
@ericerpelding2348
@ericerpelding2348 6 ай бұрын
Why do the speakers smile so much?
@mmareality6956
@mmareality6956 6 ай бұрын
A plot hole with lip holds talk lol
@lancerchoate3342
@lancerchoate3342 6 ай бұрын
Choo choo!! 🚂
@Tony02062
@Tony02062 6 ай бұрын
If only they had a brain 🧠
@anaidentafaible
@anaidentafaible 6 ай бұрын
This ”fooled by Jehovah” about your limits really makes me angry. I was /encouraged/ to disregard limitations when it came to doing good, holy, important things, because Jehovah didn’t have my limitations, and could and would cover for them. Guess whose fault me burning out was? Could it have been my fault for disregarding my limits? (I mean yeah, it was.) I was fooled for sure.
@danielthtubb9592
@danielthtubb9592 6 ай бұрын
28:14
@anthonymantellato9879
@anthonymantellato9879 6 ай бұрын
Have you changed your voice brother?
@altworldly
@altworldly 6 ай бұрын
Um, no?
@anthonymantellato9879
@anthonymantellato9879 6 ай бұрын
Man your voice sounds different hey
@altworldly
@altworldly 6 ай бұрын
Might be because of how I mixed it! My vids don’t usually sound great so I’ve been trying to work on that
@thrumyeyesmt.6344
@thrumyeyesmt.6344 6 ай бұрын
Im dying 😂😂😂❤😂😂😂
@whadis404
@whadis404 6 ай бұрын
The blood from Jesus sweat appeared as blood? It could have been real blood from the crown of thorns Or could appear as blood as in big droplets of sweat! I laughed so hard over “bugsy exoskeleton” lol
@Alittlelexus
@Alittlelexus 6 ай бұрын
You don't remember anything because you were asleep 😂
@SimplyLore
@SimplyLore 6 ай бұрын
Spiritual grifts ? 😂
@tzoppgaming4074
@tzoppgaming4074 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂❤❤
@T.Ty7
@T.Ty7 6 ай бұрын
Love you but the hypercuts and sound effects don’t really flow for some reason.. Im not sure why, they just feel unnatural and distracting. Not that I’m against any of that stuff, you just have a lot of good commentary and then a go at a Vic Berger edit makes me forget what you were talking about just a second ago
@zemuellerz
@zemuellerz 6 ай бұрын
You’re very funny and this was entertaining AF
@mmareality6956
@mmareality6956 6 ай бұрын
A plot hole with lip holds talk lol
@zemuellerz
@zemuellerz 6 ай бұрын
You’re very funny and this was entertaining AF
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