Gilmore Girls - Rory, the O.G. Annoying Millennial

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@mammu3287
@mammu3287 3 жыл бұрын
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@maudehall-skillern1492
@maudehall-skillern1492 3 жыл бұрын
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@november132
@november132 3 жыл бұрын
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@Khadija5732
@Khadija5732 3 жыл бұрын
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@lenkaprotic3345
@lenkaprotic3345 3 жыл бұрын
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@MariaLuisa-le1rf
@MariaLuisa-le1rf 3 жыл бұрын
I think Rory's downfall is pretty realistic. She grew up being adored and treated like a saint by everyone, so when she went to college and started living in the "real world" she realised she just wasn't that special and crackled. Tbh I think that if her relashionship with Jess had worked out things would be different, since he was one of the few people who called out Rory on her bs.
@jennterry6977
@jennterry6977 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I guess I'm in the minority because I found her more likable when she started to struggle.
@apierre6
@apierre6 3 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise. Rory begins to crack when Logan's dad tells her that he doesn't think that she has the potential to be a successful journalist, sparking off her rebellion and dropping out of Yale, her dream school. And he's proven right later on, since Rory does completely unprofessional things, such as fall asleep when interviewing a source, and fail to prepare at a job interview.
@DS-uh6ss
@DS-uh6ss 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree about the first part. This is why the reunion mostly worked for me. Re: relationships, she needed to learn to be on her own, and never did. That's why I'm Team Rory Gets Therapy instead of any guy.
@sanchaitadas8015
@sanchaitadas8015 3 жыл бұрын
You put it perfectly into words
@hannahb1338
@hannahb1338 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s possible that Rory being the more “mature one” in her household made Rory think that she was more put together and capable than she actually was.
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 3 жыл бұрын
THIS
@TheEmeraldLady
@TheEmeraldLady 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good perspective!
@annaeverette8960
@annaeverette8960 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah there was a video explaining this very well. Rory didn't get to be a teenager when she was supposed to be a teenager because her mother took up that role.
@loverrlee
@loverrlee 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called the “parentified child” in psychology
@hannahb1338
@hannahb1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@annaeverette8960 oooh do you know what the video is called?
@idkidk7792
@idkidk7792 3 жыл бұрын
Rory is the character that doesn’t think she is privileged because of her upbringing. Ever since her mom got in touch with her grandparents, she got comfortable and ran to them for everything. It’s not surprising that Rory turned out the way she did.. No one called her out on her mess most of the time and she got used to be praised by everyone in her life.
@gianmarcorusso1713
@gianmarcorusso1713 3 жыл бұрын
Also you have to take into account that Rory was not born into the most idyllic family context. As someone born in the same context as hers, no matter how love and material benefits you receive, you suffer a lot because of that, especially as a child.
@dinara4035
@dinara4035 3 жыл бұрын
Logan called her out on her privilege.
@dodgers02007
@dodgers02007 3 жыл бұрын
If only Lorelei didn't go to her parents to pay for Rory's private school. Rory would of became a whole different journalist.
@keckm88
@keckm88 3 жыл бұрын
@@dodgers02007 That’s a really good point. It’s like she shifted from wanting to be a great journalist who really got into the trenches to wanting to just be seen as a successful, special Yale educated journalist. It’s hard to believe that she couldn’t even get a job at a less-prestigious-than NYT paper with her degree. It’s probably her attitude that kept her from being able to get a more than decent reporting job.
@dodgers02007
@dodgers02007 3 жыл бұрын
@@keckm88 and to add her special Yale educated Gilmore ego was her biggest fault. If she didn't spend her time crying over boys and actually wrote in college; she would've known how to become a successful journalist.
@littlebandgeek14
@littlebandgeek14 3 жыл бұрын
I think class was a HUGE part of Rory's downfall. Let's not forget, she turned down a permanent, full time writing job with a salary and a 401K at a less well known, less prestigious newspaper for a chance at a 6 month, unpaid internship with arguably one of the most famous newspapers in the world. Any person who needs a job to pay rent and bills knows that's a pretty easy decision to make, but Rory turns up her nose at it because she has no concept of money due to constantly being bailed out by Emily and Richard.
@TheBrainFlow
@TheBrainFlow Жыл бұрын
Agree. I feel that what really happened was she got confused bc she had 2 distinctively different lives/POVs thrown at her at the same time at a formative stage in her life and she couldn’t separate and analyse them so she made choices from a very confused sense of self. In the very end, Logan’s privilege enhanced that side of her as well. She was making choices that a Season 1 or 2 Rory would never make bc even if she felt defeated or found some difficulties, S1&2 Rory would always work harder. She didn’t back down and just give up like Rory giving up after Mitchum told her she didn’t have it. S1&2 Rory would NEVER react that way.
@Lolalolo1996
@Lolalolo1996 11 ай бұрын
She reminds me of the book Andy from the Devil Wears Prada. In the book, Andy constantly acts like she's too good to be there and that everything asked of her is too much. Rory doesn't see the value of being a part of something small and seeing how it will have a huge impact on her life. Take my best friend. She didn't come from a rich family but wanted to be an artist. She found a way to go to school without debt, has worked shitty gig work jobs to make ends meet, and even subs at the school I work at from time to time.All while running an LLC because she knows this will land her eventually where she wants to be. Compare that to my sister inlaw who is like Rory. She's never had a real job and refuses to grow in any meaningful way.
@BillyLoomisLover3
@BillyLoomisLover3 7 ай бұрын
Agree, what will she do when Emily passes away?
@cheesecake4648
@cheesecake4648 3 ай бұрын
I think you feel miserable because she had the chance and the means and you don't.
@whitebeads1
@whitebeads1 Ай бұрын
@@cheesecake4648 ad hominem is faulty logic.
@PhoenixNailsss
@PhoenixNailsss 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Paris wasn't socially intelligent but she was everything Harvard would want and worked to get there, she should've gotten in.
@emilycain2137
@emilycain2137 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was so bizarre that Paris didn’t get into Harvard and Rory did considering Paris did better than her in school AND had generations of her family go there before her.
@stephjovi
@stephjovi 3 жыл бұрын
She blew the interview. Remember the recording? She was rude. But yale worked out well and later she did go to Harvard. Because while Rory thought well done with college I'm gonna be a superstar now because I'm a Gilmore and bc everyone likes me, Paris went to medical school and law school finished Harvard and yale and achieved a lot. Rory didn't even grow up or learn to adapt to journalism of the 21st century
@babyfishmouth-sweepingnations
@babyfishmouth-sweepingnations 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilycain2137 Paris screwed up her interview remember? She screamed at the person giving the Interview.
@tvds8350
@tvds8350 3 жыл бұрын
Trueeee
@jaclynbracker2921
@jaclynbracker2921 3 жыл бұрын
While you're all correct about Paris screwing up her interview, in the real world all she needed was for daddy to write a check and that big envelope would have been on it's way. Especially if they have a Harvard legacy.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
The way Rory repeatedly forgot about Paul in the revival irked me. Then I realised that she was so used to being fawned over in her small town, that once she got to college, and realised that everyone was just as smart as her, she couldn't take it, and used him as a crutch.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 3 жыл бұрын
Big fish, small town. Another example of White Pretty Privilege
@elleyeah746
@elleyeah746 3 жыл бұрын
Yup!! I couldn’t even finish the revival.
@mfmageiwatch
@mfmageiwatch 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 oh give me a break, racist
@dcraexon
@dcraexon 3 жыл бұрын
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@Liz-zq6fv
@Liz-zq6fv 3 жыл бұрын
@@mfmageiwatch It must be nice to live in a small perfect bubble where someone pointing out that a white person has privilege is racism to you. Get a grip
@ThunderTaker1215
@ThunderTaker1215 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how much Gilmore Girls tries to portray Lorelei and Rory as poor, just because you didn’t live in excess, doesn’t make you underprivileged.
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!
@LOVEAapjes
@LOVEAapjes 3 жыл бұрын
To me they did live in excess. All the food they ordered omg 😂 how did they pay that
@shannonholland3185
@shannonholland3185 3 жыл бұрын
They were never portrayed as poor just less privileged than lorelei's upbringing
@kaitlynigoe3192
@kaitlynigoe3192 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s meant to be more when Rory was a baby... when the show starts they are much more settled but it’s implied they actually hit several markers of poverty before then
@maureen6907
@maureen6907 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the safety net of Lorelai's parents was always looming.
@macailab13
@macailab13 2 жыл бұрын
Logan was 100% on the "you're one of us" speech. She was judging and looking down on her friends, peers, and boyfriend yet while they were growing up and setting goals she was stuck on the judgment box and "I'm not one of you" trope. I loved that moment when Logan ripped the bandaid off and showed her the privilege she has.
@songman1955
@songman1955 10 ай бұрын
This privilege you speak of is what the palladino’s disdain or they thought their audience secretly wanted to see Rory fail? Because most of the audience let’s face, it doesn’t have the privilege that Rory had . otherwise they wouldn’t have Rory fail towards the end . Sort of a writing slap in the face of people like the Gilmores. And a pat on the back or reinforcement for those who believe in a more socialistic environment?
@stefuhni
@stefuhni 9 ай бұрын
​@@songman1955 Your response was edited, but still makes no sense.
@KackieJennedy
@KackieJennedy 9 ай бұрын
I mean.🙄 We don't have to feel sorry for the other _poor little_ privileged, upper-class A-holes she hung out with, do we? 😅 Lol
@LorettaBangBang
@LorettaBangBang 7 ай бұрын
She has to feel different if she wants to achieve something. There is no success when people feel entirely like their average-performing friends. However it's true she should have kept that opinion to herself.
@Randomnamerandomnumber
@Randomnamerandomnumber 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I don't like about the pregnancy with Rory is that it feeds into the idea that you grow up once you become a parent. That's not true, and is a dangerous way of thinking.
@latricegoodman9769
@latricegoodman9769 3 жыл бұрын
or that having a baby ends your life
@clared5812
@clared5812 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I thought that was perfect for her character - Rory was raised by a young, immature mother who acted more like a teenager than an adult, got pregnant by accident, and parentified her. That was all rory knew, and then she went on to continue the cycle, becoming the same hot mess her mother was (albeit later in life) and also ending up with an accidental pregnancy. I didn’t feel it promoted being a parent at all, quite the opposite. But I thought it was very realistic for rory’s character specifically to end up that way.
@michellealvarado7411
@michellealvarado7411 3 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thought. I also wish there were more legitimately child free representation in media because parenthood isn't for everyone nor is it some inevitability that everyone has to face. I understand that it takes the show full circle, but I still wish they had gone in a different direction.
@Mrs.Self.Distruct
@Mrs.Self.Distruct 3 жыл бұрын
I think for a pregnancy in the plot for Rory's character makes more sense than the terrible turnout that was written for Lane, a very loveable character through the whole series and she end up pregnant with twins after having sex the first time on her honeymoon and both her and Zack absolutely did not want kids, she even tells Rory this baby sucks when she finds out lol
@megmur1766
@megmur1766 3 жыл бұрын
I mean she's been sexually active for like 5 years by the time the show ended I'm surprised she wasn't pregnant before this. And just Bc she's pregnant now doesn't mean she's keeping it.
@SonniesOriginals
@SonniesOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
For me, Rory's downfall really started when she dropped out of Yale in season 5/6, but her weaknesses are even hinted at in earlier seasons, like when she had a meltdown in Chilton because she failed one test. I think Lorelai was so focused on providing her opportunities and making sure she got everything she wanted that she never properly taught Rory how to deal with the one thing we will all inevitably encounter: failure. Sometimes even being smart and doing your best is not good enough to secure success.
@gianmarcorusso1713
@gianmarcorusso1713 3 жыл бұрын
Also, what happens to Rory happens in real life to many children who are pushed towards the achievement of perfection, but don't have the necessary amount of stamina and end up being delusional. In the end of the day Rory did not have any real goal, she was just obsessed with an idealized vision of Harvard, like she was living in some dark academia fantasy.
@helenad5859
@helenad5859 3 жыл бұрын
Also, her first semester, when she was advised to drop one subject, we saw her crying to Dean, but we never saw her assimilate the advice.
@EvgeniaT-i7u
@EvgeniaT-i7u 3 жыл бұрын
@@gianmarcorusso1713 Oh, yes! I was this talented kid. To be wunderkid at 10 it is enough to be able to read faster than others, play the accordion, and draw a little. Fortunately, I realized early enough that I am pretty regelar person and there are a lot of people who smarter than me. So I stopped watching the show in season 5, Rory started to piss me off, I began to see myself in her.
@gianmarcorusso1713
@gianmarcorusso1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvgeniaT-i7u I totally can relate as I have a similar story, so I saw myself in Rory as well ;)
@deana7310
@deana7310 3 жыл бұрын
I think her downfall started when she slept with the married Dean, with stupid reasons. I started disliking the show after that.
@elizabethh9305
@elizabethh9305 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call the Gilmores “upper middle class.” They’re definitely established old money.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
Upper middle class is having dentist parents who aren't stars in that field, I'd say.
@MarieJes23
@MarieJes23 3 жыл бұрын
I think they meant Lorelai, but yeah, Emily and Richard were ooooooold money, they came in the mayflower 😅🙄
@maxfr142
@maxfr142 3 жыл бұрын
Emily and Richard are 100% old money, they’ve been wealthy their entire lives. I think Lorelai could be working to upper middle class. By today’s standards she would be upper but back then probably only working middle class. The money issues came and went whenever the story called for it, but at the same time she could afford to eat out everyday...
@wendyleeconnelly2939
@wendyleeconnelly2939 3 жыл бұрын
Very definitely so. Upper class is often not acknowledged in popular culture, but they exist. What would middle class even mean if there weren't an upper class?
@anika3398
@anika3398 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarieJes23 What does old money mean?
@pecholsjones
@pecholsjones 3 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting. It's like GGs is showing two types of motherhood to avoid. Emily with her constant criticism, and Lorelai with her constant praise. They're opposites in terms of their emotional color, but ultimately they're both setting rigid expectations of the child. Lorelai at least has the temperament to break away from the overbearing home life and forge her own path. But the near constant praise turned the easygoing and naturally gifted Rory into somewhat of a narcissist, without skills to cope with adversity.
@heatherisnotcool
@heatherisnotcool 2 жыл бұрын
this is a good take. i personally want a future series about rory's kid because i'm dying to know how that turns out. ahhhh
@jamesfarquhar7547
@jamesfarquhar7547 2 жыл бұрын
I love both Emily and Lorelai but both of them should of never been mothers because they seem to be beyond that so much
@michaeltitus5305
@michaeltitus5305 2 жыл бұрын
Insightful
@blessieyang8070
@blessieyang8070 Жыл бұрын
Wow what a beautifully written comment.
@NovaTheSinger
@NovaTheSinger Жыл бұрын
Agreed,I both thought the more I watch them the more I remember how my mom acted near me,& it was just mind blowing knowing this show had two parents of two types of narcissism. If there was another GG tv show with,Rory’s child I hope she treated her kid to be independent,if not at least we saw Jess & Lane breaking the cycle of their families problems,but I mean they at least matured! If you be independent & not mature then that’s just as bad!
@gertrudessle2062
@gertrudessle2062 3 жыл бұрын
As the show progressed, I couldn't help getting more and more uncomfortable with the way Rory was acting. She was amazing in the first seasons, but then she became a bad person, entitled to getting her way and never taking responsibility for her actions. That's the saddest thing ever to me
@georgempacosta
@georgempacosta 3 жыл бұрын
Good points
@breezehxme
@breezehxme 3 жыл бұрын
@X Y funny ha ha you are h i l a r i o u s
@thaisuwu6427
@thaisuwu6427 3 жыл бұрын
@X Y bro u are so sad
@katalinbayer1539
@katalinbayer1539 3 жыл бұрын
@X Y what point are you trying to make here? Where did you read feminism into this lmaoo, embarrassing for you.
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. and she carried on her self centered behavior in the revival, from her expecting an easy job offer, to the cheating. luckily I've met a lot of millenials with more sense than her, though 🤣
@lineh.8531
@lineh.8531 3 жыл бұрын
To me Rory turned out to be much like her father Christopher.
@AvecPoesie
@AvecPoesie 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment! Yes, that rudderless, directionless, unsettled energy in Rory was quite Christopher-esque.
@kerrysater157
@kerrysater157 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Everything her mother fought against. Selfish and entitled and not wanting to settle down.
@wonder0663
@wonder0663 2 жыл бұрын
@@kerrysater157 lorelai IS selfish and entitled and has a long line of unsuccessful relationships just because she wasnt mature enough to work on them so she just bailed everytime She treats her parents horribly and never once takes a step back and reflect on how her actions were part of the problem Often took advantage of people around her especially luke Raised rory horribly by literally worshipping her and almost never reprimending her and projecting her failed life onto her, she was always a friend first and a parent second, she boosted rorys ego relentlessly and overall was just as horrible as rory if not more since she was the main reason behind rorys spoiled attitude
@esztopiros
@esztopiros 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I've never thought about it. It's so true!
@fairydust2627
@fairydust2627 2 жыл бұрын
@@wonder0663 I get what she did in her relationships and specially to luke was wrong. But Lorelai wasn’t entitled. Her parents treated her horribly so she treated them the same but less severe.
@jennifermaureen9218
@jennifermaureen9218 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love Lorelai's character, but a lot of what makes up Rory's downfall is the way Lorelai raised her. She always complimented her a bit too often. She inflated her daughter's ego all the time. She also never really reprimanded her except maybe a couple times, but it never stuck and it seemed like she always gave in for fear of Rory not liking her or not talking to her. It's understandable to a degree because Lorelai tried so hard to be the opposite of her own mother, but it ended up hurting Rory's growth and development.
@AllthePrettyPurses
@AllthePrettyPurses 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Plus, we know who to look to to figure out where Rory learned to treat her boyfriends so badly. I loved Lorelai's character when I first watched the show in college, but I watched it again when the reboot came out, and I found her so immature.
@jennifermaureen9218
@jennifermaureen9218 3 жыл бұрын
@@AllthePrettyPurses Exactly. She handled a lot of situations very poorly. Yes, me too. Honestly to me, it seemed like Lorelai grew up and matured over the series while Rory regressed and became more immature. I definitely like Rory more at the beginning and Lorelai better at the end.
@AlinaPrigoda
@AlinaPrigoda 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Lorelai depended too much on her daughter due to her own immaturity. That is why she wasn't able to function correctly as parent and a grown-up person.
@powerdriller4124
@powerdriller4124 3 жыл бұрын
Bah! BS. The only reason Rory has issues at age 30 is because the mtr fkr script writer wrote it so. She is a fictitious character, the writer just by fingering on a keyboard can change her problems into a blissful successful life.
@basketballgirl723
@basketballgirl723 3 жыл бұрын
No she didn’t. The real problem was that Lorelai always called Rory her pal first, daughter second.
@amandajosonviray9702
@amandajosonviray9702 2 жыл бұрын
Rory may not be a likable character but this series can definitely happen in real life. Watching this made me reflect on myself and think of the person I don't want to be.
@kirtu9035
@kirtu9035 2 жыл бұрын
exactly. i related a lot to season one rory; shy, quiet, loving to read, striving for perfection at school... but as the seasons progressed, i got really scared that i was going to turn out like she did because i pretty much hear the same things she did (you're so smart, wow so talented, you will do amazing in life, you can do anything) from people around me. this show actually makes you reflect on your choices. i think the only reason im not failing like her is because im not an only child (lol) which kind of helps to usually reflect on what i say and do and how others feel, and rory is just nice out of manners, she is very immature
@Bruhmoment135
@Bruhmoment135 Жыл бұрын
@@kirtu9035 I tried avoiding this show cause it makes me think of my hs self where I wasn’t the academic gifted person but someone who didn’t like school. As I have entered to uni things have gotten better & learned things thru. Ngl a lot of the stuff I do is by doing “life hacks” cause I don’t like wasting my time yk 😅
@alyanashephard1916
@alyanashephard1916 Жыл бұрын
@@kirtu9035 I'm an only child. It doesn't mean you don't know how to reflect? 😂 tf 😭
@kirtu9035
@kirtu9035 Жыл бұрын
@@alyanashephard1916 lmao i wrote this a yr ago bro idk what i said
@MrAkaacer
@MrAkaacer 8 ай бұрын
I think the point is that Rory maybe you. You may not be the hero. Every now and again, take stock of yourself and get perspective.
@visualsituation
@visualsituation 3 жыл бұрын
Rory gave me motivation to do my schoolwork, then she gave me the motivation to stop watching the show.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, same here, I was definitely a Rory during my school days, only to become mildly rebellious later on.
@georgempacosta
@georgempacosta 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@passiveagressive4983
@passiveagressive4983 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@motherofcats7671
@motherofcats7671 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 i really hated her at the end..... but i will always love lori❤
@Kaigirl27
@Kaigirl27 3 жыл бұрын
Same same same 😭
@dantilion7915
@dantilion7915 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a teen : Rory was my favourite. Now that I'm an adult : Paris is my favourite.
@fxntasyland2844
@fxntasyland2844 3 жыл бұрын
honestly, I aspire to be like paris
@rishaa682
@rishaa682 3 жыл бұрын
Paris is psychotic lol. you got some more maturing to do
@dantilion7915
@dantilion7915 3 жыл бұрын
@@rishaa682 She learns to chills out more in a year of the life and ends up owning her own successful business despite not getting into the university of her choice and having major accomplishments passes by her by Rory. She's a hard worker who learns to take rejection and still continues to work hard and eventually succeed and I think those are great qualities to aspire towards.
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 3 жыл бұрын
@@dantilion7915 and rory also showed psychotic behavior herself. Paris actually did get into harvard at the end at the end of season seven
@hollywoodshopaholic
@hollywoodshopaholic 3 жыл бұрын
Paris had far more integrity than Rory.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that as Lorelai matured and made a commitment to Luke, Rory became more childish and entitled, ending up a liar and a cheater.
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
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@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 жыл бұрын
Was it rory’s more cynical outlook that made her more childish instead of her previous wholesome innocence Entitled is a stretch but she did get more cynical
@Ilikefrogs..
@Ilikefrogs.. 3 жыл бұрын
Let's remember that Lorelai started out as a teen single mom, and not use the term single parent as an insult.
@econ2206
@econ2206 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ilikefrogs.. usually single parents end up being single parents because of dumb decisions, it's not like the vast majority are widowed
@dodgers02007
@dodgers02007 3 жыл бұрын
But are we going to get a Gilmore Girls movie with that cliff hanger ending
@croft4746
@croft4746 3 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with being rich and privileged, when it becomes wrong is the lack of gratitude, ignorance and self pitying entitlement
@Stem667
@Stem667 2 жыл бұрын
Uhm no. "Gratitude" and "awareness of privillege" do not change anything about inequality in a society. "Gratitude" is just a way for rich people to feel better about being rich and inevitably having better outcomes in life, it changes nothing for anyone who is not privilleged. Individual rich people, of course, can change little about inequality in a society as a whole, but there are lots of things that are wrong with the fact that inequality and privillege on such a scale exist.
@thisnerdycorner4982
@thisnerdycorner4982 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, there is a lot wrong about being that rich.
@valentinaespinosa7894
@valentinaespinosa7894 2 жыл бұрын
What is being privileged anyways? A family who has worked hard for generations to provide for themselves isn't wrong and it isn't inequality. People make different choices depending of many factors so of course not everyone is rich but being rich is not something you should be ashamed of.
@croft4746
@croft4746 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stem667 I’m clearly talking about individual rich as I’m talking about individual emotions, and it’s honestly just a fact of life that there will be the upper classes and there will be the lower, as we’ve seen through countries that try to get rid of this hierarchy completely, society just doesn’t work without it, you need the people to work and the people to make the work sadly, and it’s personally up to you to decide where you place in that, so stop self pitying and blaming them, actually work to be in a position of power yourself so that you can make decisions that benefit society. If there was external circumstances such as disability or discrimination ect. Then you get a pass, but even so stop being so salty about how other people aren’t changing anything and change it yourself if you care so much.
@Stem667
@Stem667 2 жыл бұрын
@@croft4746 first of all, rich people’s emotions do not matter. They can feel grateful or entitled as they want to, it changes nothing for everyone else. Secondly, there are huge differences in levels of inequality between countries. Unlike the rich people’s emotions, the level of inequality in a society matters for a lot of things: from life chances of people born into different families to things like housing affordability, life expectancy, crime levels etc (more equal countries do better) Also, I was not suggesting getting rid of any hierarchy, and no one is self-pitying either, so stop making things up.
@lilil9752
@lilil9752 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Rory´s downfall is how lacks self awareness. She sleeps with a married man ;still is the very small town´s favorite girl, drops out of yale ; still graduates with honors ,cheats on her boyfriend with an engaged ex and is a terrible worker ; the camera focusses on her face and sad music as if i had to feel sorry for her. The deconstruction of a character can be good, but with Rory the narrative espected me to side with her and have no sympathy with the people she hurt (oh haha, she is so funny that she can't remember breaking up with her boyfriend, haha) , i hated her so much on the revival.
@andreatorrealba7639
@andreatorrealba7639 3 жыл бұрын
Plus Amy didn't really give her a redemption arc to make her likeable again. The show ended before she could actually make any amends.
@UdyKumra
@UdyKumra 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I felt that the narrative was very neutral on its commentary of her. We see the world through the eyes of Lorelai and Rory (and to a lesser extent Luke and Emily) and through that lens we're going to see how things affect her emotionally. It's a deconstruction of her character through her own eyes-she can't see it, and so it's hard for us to see it, but if you step back you definitely CAN see it. But that's done intentionally, because I think the show is showing how easy it is for a person to become that way without them even realizing it, because even the viewer will see it without realizing that this is really the intention for her character. Idk if I'm saying this right, but I feel that the show portrayed her very honestly and let us form our own opinions on her rather than provide commentary on its characters through structure and emphasis.
@MsGloomyLamp
@MsGloomyLamp 3 жыл бұрын
this!
@blissclair9743
@blissclair9743 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreatorrealba7639 Not all stories get redemption arcs.
@arasbackwards003
@arasbackwards003 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@scottismissing
@scottismissing 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best moments in the later seasons was when Logan put Rory in her place and told her just how privileged she was.
@angelatircuit2355
@angelatircuit2355 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites. And it was so interesting how offended she was. "No, I'm the poor little girl who's Mom was a maid. I lived in a shed!" Except she was also a Gilmore and since she was 16, getting all the advantages that being the granddaughter of Richard and Emily afforded her.
@rishaa682
@rishaa682 3 жыл бұрын
Logan was a terrible person lol
@Vohalika
@Vohalika 3 жыл бұрын
Notably, in season 7, which had a completely different writing staff. And don't get me wrong, it was not a good season, but all the good things that happened in it, that could have put people on a better path, were walked back in the revival when the Palladinos got the show back.
@anai7363
@anai7363 3 жыл бұрын
@@rishaa682 how? Personally I really like Logan, I think he was a great boyfriend for Rory back then. However I did not like how they ended in “ a year in the life”. And yeah there were definitely questionable things but he was always there for Rory and he was upfront and honest with her sense day 1.
@tinawelch5524
@tinawelch5524 3 жыл бұрын
@@rishaa682 I think he understood his place though, although he should have stood up to his father.
@SonicaLuda
@SonicaLuda 3 жыл бұрын
Soooo, no one is going to point out how she didn't really have a healthy relationship with Lorelai. They were more friends than mother and daughter. Lorelai failed repeatedly to put boundaries and be a parent instead of a bff.
@mcm1959
@mcm1959 3 жыл бұрын
Infact in italian the show is called "Una mamma per amica", which actually means a mother who acts like a bff, kinda makes sense hahaha
@kuki1053
@kuki1053 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai was 16 and came from the trauma of her house when she had Rory. So instead of being a mum like her own mum, she decides to be a BFF to Rory. maybe a BFF type of relationship that she wanted from her own mum.... my thoughts
@mariaminghi4297
@mariaminghi4297 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, Lorelai put the standard of Rory being the nature one of the house, that is a pressure no kid should have to deal with. Lorelai did not act like an adult
@swiftie4ever2010
@swiftie4ever2010 2 жыл бұрын
she defended rory when terese got mad at her for sleeping with dean.
@poppypopper7123
@poppypopper7123 2 жыл бұрын
@@swiftie4ever2010 To be fair, moms would do a lot of nagging on their own but no mom would let another person berate her children
@jennamichie7245
@jennamichie7245 3 жыл бұрын
Rory really was the daughter that Emily and Richard wanted. Reliant on them, basically full of herself, but smart enough to go to the best schools like they did. I guess in someway Lorelei saw that stuff as bad and turned away, that’s why every time she runs into an issue with her mom she runs right to her grandparents because they fill up her ego in someway
@naturalbby1722
@naturalbby1722 2 жыл бұрын
So true! Lorelai knew what was best for her! Her parents didn’t! She knew staying at home with baby Rory and getting spoiled with gifts wouldn’t help her mature as a woman and as a mom! She needed to leave get herself a job to provide for her and Rory! Yes, she put big expectations on Rory and and acted as if Rory was the most innocent child ever and treated her more like a best friend because she didn’t want a her-and-Emily type of relationship-she didn’t want Rory to end up like her which hasn’t turned out bad at all but she wanted Rory to have a great academic foundation in life! She called her out when she was in the wrong! She provided for Rory as much as she could by herself but even then, I love how she wasn’t too full of pride to ask her parents for money for Chilton! Her humility, honesty and hardworking spirit makes her my favourite character!
@catwitdabigdog1642
@catwitdabigdog1642 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. She didn't gain success in a profession, didn't marry well and got knocked up.
@catwitdabigdog1642
@catwitdabigdog1642 2 жыл бұрын
@@naturalbby1722 Loreli indulged her child with compliments all the time and failed to firmly correct her when she was wrong.
@elizabethmiller5527
@elizabethmiller5527 2 жыл бұрын
Rory use and discard men just like her mother does ends up pregnant alone in the end I guess that's why Jess is back in the end like his uncle luke
@clutercluter9772
@clutercluter9772 2 жыл бұрын
rory turning into in karen🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🥲
@passiveagressive4983
@passiveagressive4983 3 жыл бұрын
I admire Paris’s work ethic
@larissatom6910
@larissatom6910 3 жыл бұрын
In real life Paris would have been the valedictorian and Harvard accepted.
@gertrudessle2062
@gertrudessle2062 3 жыл бұрын
Best character on the show. Except for Mrs. Kim of course
@avokanima3403
@avokanima3403 3 жыл бұрын
@@gertrudessle2062 and Kirk!!!!
@georgempacosta
@georgempacosta 3 жыл бұрын
I like that at least she got the career she wanted
@larissatom6910
@larissatom6910 3 жыл бұрын
@@avokanima3403 Kirk had every job in the town. Now that is a work ethic to be admired, but his tax filings must have been a nightmare.
@carolc9655
@carolc9655 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that rory feels entitled enough to write a book and take credit for her mum's life story says everything... lorelai caving in and letting her daughter also says loads about her inability to say no to her daughter
@snoozyq9576
@snoozyq9576 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's taking credit for her story. it's just telling her story
@yohanedescends4683
@yohanedescends4683 Жыл бұрын
she cant say no to rory anymore, whenever lorelai criticises her rory always cut her off and lorelai is too dependent on rory to go through the pain again.
@NTav540
@NTav540 3 жыл бұрын
Rory cheating with Dean is my number 1 character assassination in tv history. It was the end of the show for me.
@merivolmann
@merivolmann 3 жыл бұрын
Esa
@danielah782
@danielah782 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. It's so obvious for me. And then he cheating on his wife for a girl who cheated on him made me lose all the respect I had for him...
@miranda_turtle0566
@miranda_turtle0566 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@miranda_turtle0566
@miranda_turtle0566 3 жыл бұрын
I believe thats when the show went down, and we saw the first glimpse of who rory would be
@divelea
@divelea 3 жыл бұрын
True, but it was realistic, which I liked.
@vellichor7676
@vellichor7676 3 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I dated a Gilmore Girls super fan. After a few months, she asked if I'd watch through the series with her. So I did. Saw every single episode, including the four-part new thing on Netflix. Wasn't a bad show, though I grew to dislike Rory a lot. Whatever defense could be said for her -- that she's young, that everyone has a rogue phase, etc. - doesn't really matter, I still wouldn't want to be acquainted with her in real life. Consider her behavior in the Netflix special: she spends the entire year cheating on her boyfriend, Paul, someone she'd already been dating for some time. And she's cheating on him with Logan, who is engaged to another woman altogether. She cheated on Dean with Jess; she cheated on Logan with Jess, too, and I don't care if it was just one kiss. She hooked up with Dean while he was married. And then that entire meltdown, when she stole a boat, dropped out of school, stopped talking to her mom, moved out to her grandparent's pool house, and was an a-hole to her grandmother when she moved out of that pool house; these are not "everyone makes mistakes" territory, this is "Rory is a bad person" territory.
@lola1033
@lola1033 3 жыл бұрын
The reaction Rory had to the whole incident with the boat was astonishing for me and I didn’t buy it at all. You have been a role model and have rooted values about honesty and correctness and sense of responsibility. Now you steal a boat with this guy you just started dating, and you spend the night in JAIL, you will have a criminal record for life that has consequences in your career and life, and…. Your reaction is “it’s no big deal”!?? Fuck off honestly. The true reaction with this kind of girl would be “holly shit this is real, I’m breaking up with this guy who is a bad influence, and I’m not losing my mind anymore if I can avoid it, as I don’t want to mess all my future up (even more). but no. It was “well what’s next?” I think that’s when I was already too demotivated with the show to care anymore .
@miranda_turtle0566
@miranda_turtle0566 3 жыл бұрын
Rory's issue is not just that she doesn't pay the consequences for her actions, but she doesn't realize how what she does can ruin other peoples lives. Like Paul and especially Dean's. In real life theyre lives would be horribly ruined. And she doesn't even care
@miranda_turtle0566
@miranda_turtle0566 3 жыл бұрын
I first started watching gilmore girls two months ago when my boyfriend recommended it and it was hard to get into at first. I asked my boyfriend what was wrong with rory right away because I could sense something was off and it wasnt just that she was weird. And he said "oh nothing she's just shy and awkward" and then a few episodes later I asked if she was going to sleep with tristan at the party after her a dean broke up. And my bf said "no she doesn't do that kind of thing!" And honestly I feel like if she didnt love or are about dean then she would have just gotten with tristan but instead she gets back with dean only to cheat on him a couple episodes later with jess. Like come on. And then choosing yale over hardvard and then eventually sleeping with dean Who is married. And she still does not pay any consequences for her actions. And then everything that happened during her melt down with logan. And then running back home and hiding behind her grandparents legs like a small child. I saw a problem with her since like season two and it kind of shocks How he sorts of defended her and made her sound like she was just trying to figure stuff out but she was a bad person. I'm glad to see that other people agree
@miriamrobarts
@miriamrobarts 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really liked Rory in the earlier seasons, but was so disappointed in the bad choices she makes. Same thing with Dean. For me, it seemed out of character for these two. With Jess & Logan, each of them made plenty of bad choices, but it was more realistic to their characters, and both of them made (at least some) improvements over time. I think they could have had plenty of drama and interesting story lines without changing Rory's & Dean's characters like that. It was nice to see that Dean got back on track and was happy with a family at the very end.
@apolloscrow3686
@apolloscrow3686 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that she doesn’t learn from her mistakes. And while one could say it’s more realistic that way, because most people do repeat the same behaviors over and over, it’s not very satisfying to watch in a fictional program which is supposed to be a self-contained story with character development.
@akirebara
@akirebara 3 жыл бұрын
When I was growing up, I looked up to Rory. The revival made me realize how spoiled and entitled she was. Looking at her storyline in my mid-thirties, it all made sense. And I realized how different the paths and decisions I made compared to hers.
@daliamartinez8967
@daliamartinez8967 3 жыл бұрын
Same. And now when I watch it, i relate more to Lorelei than Rory. But they’re both ridiculous.
@DarrenNoFun
@DarrenNoFun 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't need to watch the revival to see this. She starts to act this way like... Year one of Yale? Maybe. Definitely year 2 of Yale.
@sisterstaketoo1981
@sisterstaketoo1981 3 жыл бұрын
I watched and rewatched the series so many times but I agree that not until the revival and then trying to watch it again all I could see was the privilege.
@aycaaltay9929
@aycaaltay9929 3 жыл бұрын
For me, the best character is Lane. She's ambitious and driven, won her independence. She was compassionate and kind unlike Paris, she never looked down on anyone. She failed in her career as a musician, and had to return to her mother's way, but she wasn't a sore loser. Even in her failure, she was strong and content in her own way. She stayed true to her passion, and still pursued music as a hobby. She is loyal and reliable, a great friend everybody could want. Rory is the heart without the mind, Paris is mind without the heart; Lane Kim is both. If everyone were like Lane, the world would be a much better place.
@guybrushthreepwood4174
@guybrushthreepwood4174 Жыл бұрын
In the comments people say that Lane has failed the most… people think that having kids is a tragedy and not being rich is a failure. They didn’t learn anything from Luke and Lane.
@kSchmidt583
@kSchmidt583 8 ай бұрын
I do think Lane was the most successful however I think it was v unrealistic that somebody like Rory would of stayed close to her elementary school friend who didn't go to college and had twins when she was 21. @@guybrushthreepwood4174
@NeptuneNoire
@NeptuneNoire 7 ай бұрын
@@guybrushthreepwood4174 It's been awhile since I watched the Netflix special, but I remember Lane being generally happy with Zack and her kids. I don't know why everyone is saying her life was ruined when she got married and had kids.
@solfeggietto8306
@solfeggietto8306 3 жыл бұрын
Rory's not a journalist and never was. Even watching when it aired, it never seemed like the right profession for her: she's so introverted and logical and needs structure; journalism doesn't suit her.
@晶-c7i
@晶-c7i 3 жыл бұрын
Jess was the first person to bring that up to her and she couldn't handle the truth 😂 Rory liked the idea of being a journalist, but not the reality.
@tinad8561
@tinad8561 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Vohalika
@Vohalika 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Rory thrived in organizational roles, not in investigative ones. Event management might have been a good career for her, but as an actual career and not as a hobby like her grandmother did it basically.
@AndrielleHillis
@AndrielleHillis 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks Rory would make at least a half-decent teacher? Put her back into the world where she thrived the most.
@Vohalika
@Vohalika 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrielleHillis seriously. She should have taken that job offer from the headmaster.
@mariamalmuhairi7147
@mariamalmuhairi7147 3 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I love this show, it’s realistic to what actually happen to kids who are always told they are amazing. This is what really happens.
@covu4746
@covu4746 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like being called out 🤣
@selty
@selty 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I hate that people miss this part and fall for the lie the show builds up. We were all sold the lie of the perfect little girl then scolded her when she acted out... just like they did. It's annoying that people are literally missing the point (or part) of Rory's later storyline. Identity crisis' can make us do shitty things in order to find ourselves outside of a stereotype. She has no idea who she is.
@LOVEAapjes
@LOVEAapjes 3 жыл бұрын
@@selty aw, i like your comment
@mariamalmuhairi7147
@mariamalmuhairi7147 3 жыл бұрын
@@selty yes ofc the producers made Rory like this on purpose! That’s the whole point of the show. “Where you lead, I will follow” Lorelei definitely started as a Brat like Rory but her life turned around when she had to be a single teen mom and now Rory will have to do the same
@mariamalmuhairi7147
@mariamalmuhairi7147 3 жыл бұрын
@@covu4746 yeah same, I was always told I was better than other kids but I realize now that’s not a good way to be raised :/
@zinniasfordays
@zinniasfordays 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the show gave Rory a downfall, and this vid explains why so well. I related to Rory as a young gifted kid who skated by with ease and was constantly praised, and I relate to her now as a nearly 30-something who is directionless, failing to find work and far too easily discouraged by criticism.
@pepperVenge
@pepperVenge 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly love Rory's story arch. Most stories depict characters developing into something great, but not Rory. She's just as human as the rest of us.
@heartribbonhairband
@heartribbonhairband 2 жыл бұрын
Shes a rich human. Not like the rest of us.
@s1mone477
@s1mone477 2 жыл бұрын
@@heartribbonhairband exactly
@hvnniii
@hvnniii 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a human. But a bad one.
@khaashbal6407
@khaashbal6407 2 жыл бұрын
@@hvnniii she has regular, realistic flaws, they wrote her v well
@hvnniii
@hvnniii 2 жыл бұрын
@@khaashbal6407 girl we are talking about cheating here. Its not a flaw. Its a problem.
@rimaravindran2590
@rimaravindran2590 3 жыл бұрын
Gilmore girls was a story that Rory will be her mother no matter how her life and upbringing is different from Lorelei's from beginning.
@natalyaporter5730
@natalyaporter5730 3 жыл бұрын
Which to me sounds like a terribly depressing message to send to people
@GirlDo3
@GirlDo3 3 жыл бұрын
@@natalyaporter5730 ^^^ Unfortunately it happens a lot
@UdyKumra
@UdyKumra 3 жыл бұрын
@@natalyaporter5730 I don't think it's a message? I think it's a character study. It's not a message on all of humanity, that all people will end up like their parents (I mean Lorelai is nothing like Emily, and Lane is nothing like Mrs. Kim, and Richard is nothing like Lorelai the First, etc.). It's a character study of Rory, and yes it's a depressing character study but it's specific to her experience.
@shannonholland3185
@shannonholland3185 3 жыл бұрын
It did end up being depressing
@rimaravindran2590
@rimaravindran2590 3 жыл бұрын
I personally dint feel depressing because Rory's privileges dint give her the encouragement that Lorelai had to make her life independent. Maybe this change might help her to see it. Also we audience get a conclusion indirectly indicates that Now Rory is new Lorelai and she ll end up happy.
@saltycrunch
@saltycrunch 3 жыл бұрын
I've always hated the Logan = Christopher thing. They are not similar people, despite the wealth and bad-boy antics. If anything Logan is more similar to Richard. A rich Yalie with a fondness for pranks and mischief, who grows up to become a work dork.
@BadWolfRT
@BadWolfRT 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly! And I also really struggle with the Jess = Luke thing. Like, other than the fact they both pine for their respective Gilmore Girl, what do they have in common? Dean is more of a Luke type character (and at one point, the show has Dean literally compare his situation with Rory to Luke's situation with Lorelai) than Jess ever was. And it's not like Dean was in sort supply of 'pining-over-a-Gilmore-Girl-syndrome' so.
@CM-pf1xc
@CM-pf1xc 3 жыл бұрын
So does Christopher, he rejoins privileged world and becomes worker
@inthought02
@inthought02 3 жыл бұрын
@@BadWolfRT Luke never degraded Lorelai by making her the other woman, though. Even if you were to argue that Dean is similar to Luke in that way, he never made Lorelai suffer from his actions and inability to move on the same way Dean did by cheating on Lindsay with Rory. And Dean's "support" always came with him expecting Rory to spend time with only him and to only ever be interested in him, whereas even when Luke was insecure and even found out about Lorelai sleeping with Christopher, he didn't just yell at her the same way Dean always had the habit of doing so with Rory.
@Ritsukaberry
@Ritsukaberry 3 жыл бұрын
Love how Rory called Logan a “work dork” while she herself is struggling to get a job, so ironic.
@AllthePrettyPurses
@AllthePrettyPurses 3 жыл бұрын
Uh, no. Most women who are narcissists do not suddenly change because they become mothers. The just become narcissistic mothers, and continue to see the world, including their children's lives, as revolving around them.
@cass465
@cass465 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point. I highly doubt that Rory would be as supportive and selfless a mother as Lorelai because none of those traits were ever encouraged in her.
@oviya3042
@oviya3042 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the word narcissist is thrown around too much. Rory isn’t a narcissist, a real example of narcissism in Gilmore Girls is Emily in the early seasons.
@emileconstance5851
@emileconstance5851 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai continued to be self-absorbed and shallow, well after she had Rory--motherhood seemingly didn't change her.
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 3 жыл бұрын
@@oviya3042 i disagree. There's actually a moment in 2x16 which proves that her sense of guilt and compassion is far more genuine than rory's. The few people that rory seems to care about/is respectful towards all have one thing in common: she is financially dependent on them. The second that she saw a chance to get away and make her own money, she took it by manipulating lorelai into agreeing to a book deal
@RE-xv9fp
@RE-xv9fp 3 жыл бұрын
You really should check up on what Narcissi really is because you are so off the course with this one.
@sarahdetweiler9752
@sarahdetweiler9752 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is an example of how damaging it can be to be brought up having everyone around you tell you how smart and amazing you are. They all meant well, but what happens is is that as soon as they realize they aren’t automatically the smartest, strongest, prettiest etc., their whole self-image and self-esteem fall apart. From what I’ve learned, resiliency doesn’t come naturally, it has to be taught. Unfortunately for Rory, no one properly taught her how to bounce back when things got rough.
@SP-cd3wo
@SP-cd3wo 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t it can be taught, possibility of learning from a wide range of experiences perhaps. It’s like a common sense isn’t common type of thing. And 💯 the enabling, and praise is very bad in the long run.
@ohhmangos
@ohhmangos 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Rory is a classic case of "gifted kid syndrome." In America, kids with "gifted" IQs are often placed on a pedastal. They go to "special programs" and are told how smart they are constantly. Everything comes with ease and so the kids end up slacking a bit thinking they are still "driven" because they are getting good grades. Usually, kids end up learning their lesson at around 14/15 years old when high school starts, as the classes are much harder and require more studying. In some cases, this ends up with the kid burning out and starting to fail, before they manage to develop healthy studying techniques. However, the select few do not reach this point of burnout in high school, but rather college (unniversity). This is what we see with Rory. The work gets so hard for her that she thinks it is impossible to do, burns out, and drops out of Yale. The thing is, Rory has continued that into her adult life. She never learned the healthy coping mechanisms. Instead, she insists she is smart and always correct like how she was in her childhood. This is the gifted kid syndrome.
@Colee617-n6q
@Colee617-n6q Жыл бұрын
Exactly! 100% on point! she definitely didn’t have healthy coping mechanisms, nor healthy boundaries with Lorelei. Like when she returns to Yale and has to attend mandatory therapy; Lorelei was so against it, worried about what she’d say about her, instead of seeing her child needed to continue therapy for her own mental health.
@tallyp.7643
@tallyp.7643 Жыл бұрын
R'amen! I'm an elder millennial & school was very easy for me at first. I was always eager to learn and all, but I never studied and couldn't get why other kids couldn't figure it out. When I got into honors math in 6th grade, I came to a screeching halt. I couldn't understand anything all of a sudden (WTH are letters doing in math problems?!) and I learned how to give up. I kept failing and nobody could explain it to me, and so I went back to regular math where I could coast and get straight As. I just figured I was smart... until I wasn't anymore. And nobody was harping on my grades or helping me out, so I continued to flounder. Got some better teachers in high school that helped bridge the gap, but those middle school years were hell. I didn't really learn good study skills til college. I was book-smart, but real-world stuff just baffled me. Still does, sometimes. This stuff is part of the reason I try to be a good tutor to kids. When they get down on themselves and say they'll never get it, I make sure to tell them otherwise and help them find ways to push on and keep learning. I learned to give up in math too soon, and that hindered me from a lot of paths I wanted to try because i considered them too hard. I'd probably be a scientist right now if I'd learned to study and pushed through. Instead I'm a lot like Rory (minus the money and boys): once I was out of school, I couldn't hack it. Now, I've got my fingers crossed that I get a job I applied for that will let me pay bills and have a work-life balance (if I live very cheaply from now on and stay healthy) after 24 job applications in 3 months. It's disarming when you don't have realistic help to do better and that you have serious gaps in your personal growing-up education.
@98Zai
@98Zai 7 ай бұрын
This is a very strange comment. I take it you are against giving people opportunity? How do we reach new heights without encouragement? If we have limited resources, you have to focus on the areas that might pan out.
@ohhmangos
@ohhmangos 7 ай бұрын
@@98Zai I am not against giving people opportunity, I'm just saying the culture can be toxic and lead to kids feeling like they don't need to do anything to succeed. I say this as someone who grew up in those programs.
@98Zai
@98Zai 7 ай бұрын
@@ohhmangos I wish someone would have either removed the noisy ADHD kids or me from the classroom. I see how pushing a genius label on a kid can be detrimental, but some kids do not reach their potential in a normal setting. I don't think this TV show is a good metric to prove anything, it's entertainment. A perfect person succeeding isn't fun to watch.
@kimbridge
@kimbridge 3 жыл бұрын
Rory being “stuck” in her 30’s wasn’t relatable. It was a big plot hole. We know, based on the original series, that she had several trust funds, one from her father and one from her great grandmother. Plus, Rory probably inherited even more money from Richard after he died. It’s highly unlikely that she blew through all that money and was so poor that she just had to move back home and couldn’t afford to buy her own place. Poverty and unemployment didn’t stop Rory from flying back and forth to the UK. The revival was super messy and made Rory insufferable.
@incognitonegress3453
@incognitonegress3453 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused as well...
@natalyaporter5730
@natalyaporter5730 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the writers of the show wanted what happened in the revival to happen in season 7 but they left the show for some reason and season 7 got written differently. So now the original writers of the show made the year in a life into their original plan for season 7 which makes me feel a bit angry - they screwed up Rory on purpose it seems.
@jessicadavalos5710
@jessicadavalos5710 3 жыл бұрын
@@natalyaporter5730 exactly! That would have made sense in season 7, what it means just some years after she graduated. But in the way they did it was like "are you telling me that in 10 years she didn't do anything in her life at all??"
@jessicav931
@jessicav931 3 жыл бұрын
And she keep paying the rent from her NY room btw. But is more or less more or the same, she goes "poor me, I am not having the job of my dream" but she have a safety net. Just like Lorelai, who could run to her parents when needed, even if she didn't like it
@kimbridge
@kimbridge 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicadavalos5710 Which is another reason why the revival was hard to swallow. Someone in Rory’s position, in her 30’s, would have had a master’s degree, at the bare minimum. Journalism jobs at major news outlets are scarce, and once her career stalled, she would’ve went back to school to make herself more competitive in the job market. Rory would have used her family connections and Yale alumni network to get some sort of suitable gig while living off of her trust funds. “A year in the life” was written as if Rory was 23, not 33.
@Lara-jr5dj
@Lara-jr5dj 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think Rory and Lorelai are both incredibly spoiled and selfish. Everyone around them just keeps saying they're always right and perfect and they think they matter more than other people. But I like that they are both flawed people. Makes them more realistic. edit: Also, Mitchum was undeservingly villainized for not feeding Rory's fragile ego and introducing her to the real world.
@rescatooor
@rescatooor 3 жыл бұрын
Both are extremely privileged and it's difficult to take their money problems seriously when their takeaway order is literally every item on the menu.
@jennterry6977
@jennterry6977 3 жыл бұрын
@@rescatooor I think Luke gave them a lot of free food🤣
@rescatooor
@rescatooor 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennterry6977 Sure. But there was also all the Chinese food (that one episode where they say they actually order everything off the menu and make it sound like this is something they do on an irregular basis) and the pizzas. I mean Rory buys the "world's largest pizza" for Lorelai's birthday. What's missing is an episode revealing their friendship with Sookie is purely tactical to avoid ever having to cook a meal.
@jessicav931
@jessicav931 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy someone point out Lorelai is not that perfect either. Putting aside that she ignores her own privileges, she toy with people too much with her own "I am so charismatic, you find this abusing behavior so cute and nice". Luke is have to deal with her egocentric behavior all the time. Like when she keep retaining his truck when Rory go to Yale or returning it late. Or when he give up the house of his dreams because Lorelai don't want to leave her home and then he can't even bring his decorations. The good thing is that the show actually point out part of Lorelai problems. Is Emily who make her understand, telling her that in a relationship is not always about getting your way.
@ines3770
@ines3770 3 жыл бұрын
Michtum was righfully villainized. "You don't have it".What kind of feedback is that ? What is " It" ? How can she improve ? Maybe he was right hat something was missing but he was being intebtionally mean about it
@milicitrus
@milicitrus 3 жыл бұрын
that's what i love about gilmore girls, the characters are flawed and discussions about their morale arise constantly. the fact that they all move in grey areas is what makes this show good. Every time i rewatch the show i get something different out of it, it is subtle, the relationships between emily and lorelai are my favourite because they are so complex.
@carolannaitken5812
@carolannaitken5812 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, there wouldn't be so many comments if the characters were not flawed that's what makes it interesting.
@AyshaRehmen
@AyshaRehmen 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I’d disagree - her story isn’t about white privilege, it’s CLASS privilege If she went to public school & never learned of her grandparents’ wealth, the whole story changes Class plays a HUGE role in her downfall, the average white millennial can’t relate
@hayatidk
@hayatidk 3 жыл бұрын
I found it interesting that the vid brings up Girls as an example of another typical “entitled millennials” show bc for those characters, class was also their defining privilege. This is because Lena Dunham herself came from rich parents, her dad specifically being from an old money WASP background, so she gave her characters the same typical rich kid problems she dealt with. Amy Sherman Palladino (creator of Gilmore Girls) also had rich and well-connected parents in the entertainment industry, and was able to advance so quickly in the industry bc of those connections. She has said specifically in interviews that she meant for Rory to exemplify the failings of the entitled millennial. The irony is that she herself is an extremely privileged and very entitled Gen X-er who has no concept of the struggles working class people go thru. Countless millennials’ careers suffered bc the recession hit right when they were finishing college, not bc they were whiny brats who didn’t want to work - they literally could not find work. But ASP is so divorced from the real struggles of everyday people.
@lmmm1459
@lmmm1459 3 жыл бұрын
In real life , she’s part Latina
@bennyton2560
@bennyton2560 3 жыл бұрын
This
@timothyhuman1720
@timothyhuman1720 3 жыл бұрын
@@lmmm1459 Latinos can be white too tho. Her Latino side is from Argentina, which is a very white country, and her Argentinian grandparents are of Danish, German, Scottish and English descent
@MsDiMera2
@MsDiMera2 3 жыл бұрын
@@lmmm1459 A person can be Latina and white e.g Giselle Bundchen can be considered Latina because she is from Brazil and there is a substantial German community in Latin America. Lots of Nazis also ran off to Latin America after WW2 ,and married within the German community already there ,do they stop being white just because they are now based in a Latin American country?
@ramona283
@ramona283 3 жыл бұрын
Rory should've just married Logan. She should've just embraced her privilege and take advantage of it to better her career. Instead she stayed oblivious of it. Lets be honest, nepotism and connections will always be present in our society and if I had the connections that my grandparents could offer me, I would embrace it.
@inthought02
@inthought02 3 жыл бұрын
Marrying Logan wouldn't have guaranteed her success, though. And it's obvious throughout the show that Rory hates handouts even when she struggles to find work for herself throughout the revival. There's also the obvious fact that Mitchum doesn't just hand out something without a drawback, like him offering her the internship solely because his family was weird to her at dinner only to tell her she just doesn't have what it takes, without giving her any advice on improvement, without giving her any actual good pointers as to what she could do other than offering some backhanded remark that she could be a good assistant. This is what pretty much makes it clear that he wouldn't just offer her a job on the same level as Logan or even a regular employee of his even if she ended up marrying her son, and chances are she would've still hated it. Also, Richard and Emily never have any significant ties to publishing or journalism beyond Mitchum in the series. They offer Lorelai or Rory help with money, but that's about it, and the series conveniently forgets or doesn't bring up Rory's possible trust funds from them when it would've otherwise solved some of her possible issues.
@kimbarbeaureads
@kimbarbeaureads 2 жыл бұрын
There's the little problem of Logan's family looking down on Rory and Logan not standing up to them.
@lyndraski4152
@lyndraski4152 5 ай бұрын
I know! I certainly don't have the advantage of nepotism, but think about it. Your as big an actress as Meryl Streep, and your daughter comes to you and says "Mom, I wanna be an actress. Help me." You love your kid; what are you going to say "No, that's nepotism." No! Of course not, you love your kid, and you're going to help. That's why nepotism will always be with us.
@betkavargova5900
@betkavargova5900 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Lorelai, the way she is portrayed as the perfect mother really rubs me the wrong way. "Ever since she could crawl, I wanted her to go there..." Talk about pressure! And I hate how condescending she is to the men in her life who have kids (Christopher, Luke). I mean she raised one kid and suddenly she's the parenting expert. Maybe Rory being "perfect" didn't result from her parenting skills as much as from the lack of them (= the need to please others and not cause any more trouble to the already troubled teen mom). Again, I love Lorelai as a character, but she too should acknowledge that maybe her parenting style wasn't as great as she thinks it was.
@MeganLaveyHeaton
@MeganLaveyHeaton 3 жыл бұрын
Both Christopher and Luke went to Lorelai for parenting advice. She didn't just barge in the door and force it on them. Luke wanted Lorelai's help when Jess first arrived, and Christopher went to Lorelai about G.G. when his wife went MIA. April was an entirely different situation, and both her and Luke were warped so OOC in that mess of a storyline that it really doesn't even count.
@dreambuilder2756
@dreambuilder2756 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelei is also an oddity that no one else recognizes. She had the opportunities if she had behaved well as a teen and young adult. She needed to stop whining that she didn’t have those choices. Her parents had the money. Her parents wanted her to go to college. Yes, her parents were demanding. Instead of throwing it all away, maybe Lorelei could have stood up for herself instead of running away. She is her daughter’s role model.
@liviamoreiralima3536
@liviamoreiralima3536 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai did behave like one crazy teenager so often...... her personality is very extra, I think Rory got lost in the dynamic..... which is ok, it's healthy enough to work it out. After having Emily and Richard as parents, i think their mother daughter love is something rare and beautiful
@Herbsandspices100
@Herbsandspices100 2 жыл бұрын
Her grandparents and especially her grandfather put a LOT of pressure on her.
@platinumgirl7
@platinumgirl7 2 жыл бұрын
Lorelai was just a fun loving Emily. Lorelai put her dreams on Rory and wanted a life she had imagined in her head for Rory. Same as Emily. When Rory dropped out Lorelai acted same as Emily would have.
@jessicaborba1620
@jessicaborba1620 3 жыл бұрын
The truth is that Rory's life was very realistic, a "spoiled" child, who grew up without criticism and had everything handed over to her. She collapsed in the real world. And another thing, she never took much consideration for other people's feelings, she cheated on two boyfriends throughout the series, and she was used to cheating too, without showing any regret. She got what she deserved.
@cv8499
@cv8499 3 жыл бұрын
It would've been so awesome to see Lindsay in the revival, totally kicking ass and doing great in life, just to rub it in Rory's face.
@cv8499
@cv8499 3 жыл бұрын
@@okmewhen True, but I would've wanted that moment for Lindsay, so the last time we see her isn't devastated and humiliated, but thriving and happy. And if what happened to Lindsay happened to me, I'd kind of want to run into the person who'd destroyed my marriage (intentionally or not) when I'm living my best life, which would be especially satisfying if that person was floundering. It may be petty, but there you have it. I'd be all, "Oh hey, Rory! Great to see you! What's that? You're unemployed, homeless, and seeing your engaged ex-boyfriend? Aw, what a shame. Welp, gotta get back to my successful jet setting career now. My limo and heart surgeon husband are waiting for me out front. Here's a $20. Buy yourself something nice." lol
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 3 жыл бұрын
@@cv8499 what did the missing comment say?
@cv8499
@cv8499 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMarkmcr The person said that Rory wouldn't have cared because it's not like she hated Lindsay or anything. She probably would've been happy for her. She just didn't give a f**k about her or her marriage.
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 3 жыл бұрын
@@cv8499 i think that's part of what paris's role was meant for. Rory has a habit of having a temper tantrum whenever she's criticized about anything, so if someone less beneficial like lindsay got personal with rory, I highly doubt that any such meeting would have gone well for her at all.
@khaxjc1
@khaxjc1 3 жыл бұрын
Paris' story actually makes sense to me. People you have the better work ethic are often not the ones rewarded. People who are too intense are often shunned. People who display anxiety are looked down on. Woman who are aggressive and ambitious seen as wrong. And while she did study she was under pressure from herself and parents while having not grown up with proper support and coping mechanisms. In contrast Rory fits a lot of female stereotypes. She's ambitious but presents as sweet and demure. She has a temper but it doesn't present as a threat. When shes stressed shes often calmed and assured by others. And so on and so forth. She is the type that is often rewarded. And as for the extracurriculars we are told she lacks Im guessing she finally realized she could list all the stuff she and her for do for the town which would be unique and quaint compared to Paris' choices which would have been just like others applying cause it was based on ticking boxes of what should look good. It also completely makes sense that Paris would succeed once success was in her own hands and she was the one shaping her future where Rory would falter when no longer given the structure she so thrived on.
@r.g6170
@r.g6170 3 жыл бұрын
HARD WORK DOESNT MEAN BEST WORK. one could solve a problem faster than another, while the other will take a long time and place much hard work to understand the same problem and come up with a solution.
@DieFarbeLila88
@DieFarbeLila88 3 жыл бұрын
are you saying that work isn,´t everything, but in order to thrive in a society, you also have to be likable? Or did I get this wrong? :)
@mensi8224
@mensi8224 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree and what I find funny is that Paris is the « riche privileged » one but she still is the only one that worked to get where she is
@andreakoeries7230
@andreakoeries7230 3 жыл бұрын
@@DieFarbeLila88 yep that’s true
@DieFarbeLila88
@DieFarbeLila88 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreakoeries7230 thank you :) that is very sad to hear I must say :( While I don’t think that Paris is a person I would like to work with bc. I can’t really stand her intensity, I feel that schools shouldn’t feel that way. She deserves that university-spot! But I do see why ppl didn’t want her to be head of the newspaper. She is rather unpleasant to work with. In an Environment where she would at least pull the great contracts on land (like in a company) this behavior may be excused but not on a school-newspaper.
@XoeNatalia
@XoeNatalia 2 жыл бұрын
I’m rewatching Gilmore girls for the second time as a college student and literally Rory is held on a pedestal when she is Really just a basic smart girl not a genius or incredibly special. She was really hyped up.
@umbeijonabunda
@umbeijonabunda 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but how did you know I'm watching this show for the 100 time again right now?
@DarrenNoFun
@DarrenNoFun 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished randomly watching the show and the limited series like... Earlier this week... The take is stalking us.
@NTav540
@NTav540 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my daughter loved it. After the cheating episode. And the way it was handled. As if NOTHING happened. We could not stomach it anymore.
@Antonia-hp5gg
@Antonia-hp5gg 3 жыл бұрын
@@NTav540 But that isn't the case. The cheating ruined the marriage of Dean, for example. Things happened.
@MarieJes23
@MarieJes23 3 жыл бұрын
@@NTav540 the first time that I watched Gilmore Girls, I could watch past that.
@NTav540
@NTav540 3 жыл бұрын
@@Antonia-hp5gg Exactly. It was cruel. What I mean is that, in a small community like the one in the show, there was no backlash, no gossip, no nothing, no one got mad. And Lorelai went in a double date with them! I told my daughter, they scripted the whole thing as if Rory was not a person in that town, but their favorite CHARACTER. So disgusting.
@chanajacobs1850
@chanajacobs1850 3 жыл бұрын
why did rory get more flack for sleeping with a married man than the married man did for cheating on his own wife?? it was immature, but she was told they were divorcing. rory was being a self-centered baby, but it is not her fault for the demise of dean's marriage.
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't. There was a scene in which lindsay yelled at dean, and the rest of the consequences for him occurred offscreen because it wasn't relevant to rory's storyline
@chanajacobs1850
@chanajacobs1850 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMarkmcr oh ok, i'll have to rewatch lol
@chanajacobs1850
@chanajacobs1850 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMarkmcr i just remembered lindsay's mom yelling at rory
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 3 жыл бұрын
@@chanajacobs1850 that did happen, but it doesn't mean that dean's actions were ignored
@miranda_turtle0566
@miranda_turtle0566 3 жыл бұрын
Nah dean was treated so badly every time something happened with rory. The first time they broke up and the second and after the affair. He got what he deserved but rory never did
@imbuffysummers
@imbuffysummers 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the whole “100-200 applications to find a job” fact being targeted against the millennial’s work ethic is that it’s important to consider the drastically reduced required efforts that our parents personally experienced going into the work force and they are the ones in our ear and over our shoulder asking why we haven’t found a suitable enough job for them to brag to their friends about and start paying for their retirement already expecting that it shouldn’t be this hard and we must not be trying
@zpromi448
@zpromi448 2 жыл бұрын
This. I really cant hear this "Oh Millienials just dont work hard anymore" stuff anymore. Bitch please, we´ve been working harder than most generations before just to get a minimum wage job with all those unpaid internships and extra languages courses and social commitments we had to do to get that. Oh dont foget those fix term employment contracts, where you have to apply every few years all over again and again, keeping your portfolio with that social commitment and all thata extra qualifictations no ones ever gonna need on the job, but with without them you still wont be hired up to date...
@ljhcmh614
@ljhcmh614 2 жыл бұрын
Gen Xer here. I sent out hundreds of applications in 1991 despite graduating from college with honors. I may not be your parents age, but I can definitely say there were not "drastically reduced efforts" required to get a job 30 years ago. None of this is new for Millennials.
@alyzu4755
@alyzu4755 2 жыл бұрын
Or the classic "I worked my way through college (in the 70's), why can't you?" 🙄 I'm a Gen X-er. The economy wasn't great in 1991 when I graduated from college, but jobs were available and rent was somewhat reasonable. My 4 years at NYU cost $80,000. Now a single year costs much more. Even state schools, which were started as the affordable alternative to private universities, are now ridiculously expensive.
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
2 жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever considered things from Rory's perspective? From a very young age she was constantly praised for being smart and put together... So she started putting that pressure on herself to be constantly perfect and "have everything her mother didn't"... I believe that would take a toll on anyone... So it's just about time that she at one point exploded...
@al1665
@al1665 2 жыл бұрын
Also, she was from a blue blooded pedigree family on both parents' sides, but she was also an illegitimate child. That's more added pressure on her that no matter what she did, she may never be good enough for that society's standards.
@ayselengin1798
@ayselengin1798 2 жыл бұрын
agreed.
@aprilmichel7816
@aprilmichel7816 2 жыл бұрын
I did because I was kinda there - smart, a bookworm, mature for her age, never had to crack open a texbook because she got everything she needed from classes, and the eventual realisation that it's just not enough and the subsequent first big lifechanging failure. Granted, I am not from a rich family, have both parents and money was something I was not used to (also didn't steal a yacht but I did drop out of (tuition free) university), but it checks out pretty well. It doesn't excuse the way *Rory and I acted when we cracked but it puts it into perspective. Rory is her own person but also a product of her upbringing to a certain degree. If you're being told by people of authority that you're good and will be successful, you have no reason not to believe it; of course you feel wronged when it doesn't work out because everyone told you it would. Lorelei and her grandparents uninitentionally did her dirty. Edit: found the one person on the entire internet that cares about syntax
@evegreenification
@evegreenification 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all good with that up to a point. Drop out of school, fine. Play your grandparents and mom off eachother because they can't manage their relationship, understandable. But I draw the line at boffing married dudes, stealing yachts, demanding people leave your "study tree"...My right to self destruct is my right. My rights end where your boundaries begin. Hurting other people is not ok.
@BamaMatters11
@BamaMatters11 2 жыл бұрын
@@aprilmichel7816 "It didn't excuse the way I and Rory acted" How about "It didn't excuse the way RORY and I acted" Yeah you NEVER had to crack open a textbook huh smdh.
@MollyLikovich
@MollyLikovich 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always confused as to how these traits are just attributed to millennials. Aren't their people/kids who act this entitled in every generation?
@AfternoonDaLite
@AfternoonDaLite 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!⭐️
@missdiction4455
@missdiction4455 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s not a generational thing, it’s a class thing. I don’t know how this video has so many likes.
@drumgoldie
@drumgoldie 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great summary of Rory. Her good friend Lane was one of my favourite characters in the series. She more accurately portrayed the life of teenage girl. Not so privileged and smooth sailing.
@CarolinaBury
@CarolinaBury 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but some people from older generations are so, soooo entitled, that they try to demear millennials every time they can
@hellochicxs5630
@hellochicxs5630 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@natural91LC
@natural91LC 3 жыл бұрын
she doesn't represent millennials, she represents entitlement.
@lydiafayre9806
@lydiafayre9806 3 жыл бұрын
This...this perfectly summarizes my whole reaction to anti-millenial hostility. They're judging a generation that's been hugely screwed over by the ones that came before, and they're using the most priveleged minority among that generation to justify their judgment.
@natural91LC
@natural91LC 3 жыл бұрын
@@lydiafayre9806 perfectly said! Rory was fun to watch when I was a kid/teen but now that I'm an adult I really dislike her character both for her lack of "morals" and for her blatant entitlement. The wrost part is that she doesn't even realise how lucky and blessed she is. She was born into the 1% and still dares to complain, meanwhile the rest of us are working twice or three times harder and are barely getting by. I get what the writers were going with her,. her character arc was atrocious though, I expected so much more from her. I think that the problem with her is the fact that maybe she was praised too much, she lived in a bubble and has no idea what real life looks like. She demonstrated zero self awareness or resilience. Plus the fact that she's pregnant, jobless and a single parent after all the things she was handed drives me nuts. Jesse, on the other hand, evolved magnificently imo :)
@veronxska
@veronxska 3 жыл бұрын
it's true, this whole stereotype can occur regardless of which generation the person belongs
@Vohalika
@Vohalika 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, saying she was meant to represent millennials kinda gives the writers credit they do not deserve when it comes to her arc, largely because the tropes weren't even established yet when the main show was written. It is also, you know, notable that Rory is framed "not like other millennials" when she returns to Star's Hollow - and I'm pretty sure none of those millennials would have shown up to a job interview completely unprepared and gotten offended at the notion of having to have pitches or ideas prepared. I don't think the Palladinos had too firm of a grasp on the story they were telling with Rory and then were given free reign to indulge their mean spirited side in the revival.
@serenesista
@serenesista 3 жыл бұрын
She represents those without self awareness. Lack of self awareness is contagious and if you’re lucky enough to have someone to call you out in your bs, hold on to them. Even tho what they say about you hurts. It’s hard to tell the difference between a hater and a honest critic.
@daisybryar2737
@daisybryar2737 3 жыл бұрын
Rory getting chosen for more opportunities, honours, etc than Paris just shows how likeability trumps ability. Paris was always more driven and capable than Rory and worked a lot harder than her, but she wasn't sweet and quiet and polite like Rory, so they didn't want her to be valedictorian, etc.
@Becky0494
@Becky0494 3 жыл бұрын
Likability has some merits too though. Could you honestly imagine working in a group with Paris? That would be hellish. There’s a reason nobody likes her, and quite frankly being able to work with people/have some people skills is extremely important in the real world. I’d rather work with Rory than Paris any day :/
@AliceDiamondWisdom
@AliceDiamondWisdom 3 жыл бұрын
@@Becky0494 AGREED! I'm a bit disturbed at how youtube comments seem to mostly love Paris just cause she works hard. I've met people who used their work ethic and intelligence as an excuse to be mean and a bully. I don't care how driven you are, if you drive others to the ground you clearly have growing to do. That said Rory isn't so great either, at least Paris is upfront about being a B.
@hollywoodshopaholic
@hollywoodshopaholic 3 жыл бұрын
THIS. Rory had better social skills, but imo Paris had far more integrity because she wasn't afraid to be hated to do what she thought was necessary. She didn't hide her serious flaws or try to have it both ways. Some of her behavior was too severe or mean and definitely should have been reigned in, but I think she's better than Rory because she wasn't a hypocrite.
@annaeverette8960
@annaeverette8960 3 жыл бұрын
It's because Paris was portrayed as completely insufferable while Rory was portrayed as a child from a fairy tale. Both portrayals *way* overamplified.
@shittymcrvids3119
@shittymcrvids3119 3 жыл бұрын
Also Rory is better looking
@alliew2711
@alliew2711 Жыл бұрын
It's so insightful to have watched GG with my own mother when I was a teenager versus watching it now as an adult closer to Loralai's age. I always thought it was strange that Rory was always reading, but never writing. She never showed any real interest in journalism aside from working on the paper in school.
@Chloe-fo6lm
@Chloe-fo6lm 3 жыл бұрын
At the start of the series, I loved Rory. She was so much like me. Bookish, timid and ambitious. Finally, there was a character on television who was interested in Ivy League Colleges and travelling the world. As the series progressed, it became harder and harder for me to relate to Rory and by the time that she had slept with Dean despite the fact that he was married, I hated her and could not believe that the self absorbed, spoiled and annoying woman she was becoming was the same kind, intelligent and hardworking girl that she was before. They ruined her further in the sequel. Rory become a spoiled little brat who was so accustomed to getting everything that she wanted through her grandparents’ money and influence that she became one of the most annoying character that I have ever seen. Rory cheated on Dean with Jess, slept with Dean while he was married to Lindsay, regularly fought with her mother who always had her best interests at heart, left her home, moved in with her grandparents and treated them poorly, had terrible taste in men, stole a yacht and expected everything in life to be handed to her on a silver platter.
@timothyrday1390
@timothyrday1390 3 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how worked up people get over these fictional characters, but as many have pointed out, there is a great degree of realism in the downward spiral. Not everyone in real life has this perfectly moral and successful path upward.
@Linda-vy2yn
@Linda-vy2yn 3 жыл бұрын
I think Rory was great at doing what she is told to do in school. She put in a great effort in the tasks given and received good grades and praise in return. However, she never learned to make her own decisions and take responsibility for them. And that's where she started to struggle immensely. I think we do need to acknowledge that she worked her ass off in school, but in life things just aren't as plannable. It's not always that effort leads to success. And when she realized that, she lost her whole understanding of life - privileged money-wise or not.
@alyzu4755
@alyzu4755 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. As she says herself, "I've always done everything that was asked of me". And nothing more. Turns out Mitchum Huntsberger was right.
@verydenise
@verydenise 2 жыл бұрын
Great point!!! Being an academic success looks very different than the success required in the job market / real world.
@raro344
@raro344 2 жыл бұрын
@@verydenise I mean, there are plenty of academy way to her but she wanted to be journalist, when I will said Paris or lorelai actually fit better that.
@Raregirl101
@Raregirl101 3 жыл бұрын
Rory lives in the shadow of loreli's mistakes, she even named rory after her. It is clear that loreli gave up her dreams to raise rory and now loreli needs rory to be successful as evidence that she did the right thing by running away at 16. I love loreli, but she was selfish with rory.
@lulub1433
@lulub1433 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. The story always pushed the idea that Lorelei as taking Rory away from a toxic situation, and money isn't everything, but she just put her in a different situation that rendered not so favorable results, and she has to depend on her parents and their money anyway. But hey, we all make mistakes, it's what keeps the show interesting I guess.
@T_Cup
@T_Cup 2 жыл бұрын
Agree to some extent - but not about giving up on her dreams. If anything, despite a lifetime of pressure from her family, I never really bought that Lorelai had true goals (which is fine, she was 16), just general ideas for the future that were put on her by her own parents. I still agree that she used her daughter in order to live vicariously through her success, but at the same time, it wasn't like Lorelai would even have been able to achieve half of what Rory did - yet the narrative of selfless sacrificing mother was used more to gain audience sympathy than it being an actual reality. Plus, she was pretty successful regardless of being a teen mother while never imo displaying any major qualities that earned her that success.
@raissalianna889
@raissalianna889 Жыл бұрын
Lorelai's flaw is she doesn't admit it to herself or to other people when she needs help and Rory follows her footsteps hence why in the revival 32 year old Rory is like 16 year old Lorelai. They're lost and trying to find themselves. Also, at first, I always thought Emily was too selfish but now that I'm older, I realize she may be selfish at times but she always (sometimes) meant well. She was just protective of her family ^^
@Starbits7
@Starbits7 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Rory already was a mother. At the series, where they say she's still 15, she was doing a lot of the household chores. They said (as a joke maybe?) that Lorelai doesn't clean. Lorelai though was always unable to find things at home and Rory knew where everything was, meaning she was the one that put things away/tidied. Lorelai was surprised at the clean clothes Rory had for her first day at Chilton and Rory said she did that sometimes, wash her own clothes 'whenever there isn't anything clean'....implying that Lorelai had a habit of doing that, even if just once in awhile. Applying to schools like Chilton and Yale, everyone knows there are huge fees. Rory was even worried about them but her mom just said everything would be fine. She still never looks up the cost of tuition until she gets the letter(s) in the mail. She had just assumed she could get a big bank loan (and that she'd be abel to pay it off). Lorelai sometimes talked to her about her dates - which is wildly inappropriate - but Rory was the one giving advice. There are too many examples to name.... People who grow up in households where they had to be the parent (to themselves or young siblings) feel tightly wound and need an outlet. Often it's when they get away from home the first time, then they sort of overcompensate and sometimes go nuts. It's like all those kids in high school you knew who were never allowed to even try a drink of alcohol then when they're in college they go batshit and drink all the time...it's overcompensating for years of being tightly wound. Rory was still not relatable in Year in the Life because for starters she had inherited a fortune but the writers just forgot about that detail. Viewers didn't since they were constantly seeing the Gilmore mansion, we know Rory wasn't 'broke' like she claimed. And when Rory announced she was pregnant I just thought,...So? Because she was 32, with a college degree, family & friends around her, she had money... oh and yeah, she basically raised her own mother... she already went through motherhood
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 7 ай бұрын
I heard this. I still have both parents, but had to be the 3rd ones. With my mother brokes down in front of me, and demanded me to parent my younger sibling and be the middle man between my father and her, and my father who always demanded me to be my mother helper while he always absent. Those tied me down when my siblings flies the coop and think they dont have responsibility for my elderly parents because "sister is there". I cannot muster romance because every men think i am too cold, too calculating and " being with you is like with being with tired middle age mom with adult children"😂 But i guess that is my life, and still learning to shed my chains and spread my wings....but still dreaded to be a parent because my younger sister turned on me just because i dont approve of her husband, that turned out abused her.😢 i know being a failure felt like. I know since i am 6 y.o because my home was not clean enough for my mother.
@LauraSomeNumber
@LauraSomeNumber 3 жыл бұрын
A Year in the life feels like it was shoehorning what would have been Rory's life right after college into her thirties, it is very clear that Amy Sherman Palladino didn't get to finish her story like she wanted to so she just did it anyway even though it didn't make sense for rory that late in life.
@rauldempaire5330
@rauldempaire5330 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! you are the only comment that makes sense in this thread... poiningt out that Rory is a fictional character by Amy Sherman Palladino... and now that you bring it up... Could it be possible that WB just cancelled the series because they were anticipating Sherman s plan for the character?...
@helenad5859
@helenad5859 3 жыл бұрын
That was the problem of the revival ASP was petty, she didn't watch the final season, and she just did the season she wanted 10 years later. Like this struggle and pregnancy was supposed to be after Rory graduates college. Luke and Lorelai discussing getting kids just now.
@LX-kt90rx
@LX-kt90rx 3 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense! I really didn’t get the whole Luke and Lorelei thinking about kids thing in the revival. Like I know people have kids older nowadays, but they’d both be starting completely over, kid not graduating until they’re nearly 60. And Rory getting accidentally pregnant like she doesn’t know how birth control works by the time she’s well into her 30’s...? I know birth control fails sometimes, but that whole revival made no sense for where any of the characters would realistically be at their ages. I knew ASP didn’t do the last season of GG, and It makes complete sense now that she wrote the “final season” she always wanted for Lorelei and Rory, instead of continuing the story that the final season writers wrote.
@DrGregoryHouseIT
@DrGregoryHouseIT 3 жыл бұрын
@@rauldempaire5330 Sherman Palladino was out of GG before the final season, and if you notice the revival doesn't take that season into account.
@UdyKumra
@UdyKumra 3 жыл бұрын
Eh I think it does make sense actually. I think after Rory went back to Yale she was re-motivated and willing to work hard, and would have coasted on that for a few years. Then after a little while she would have started to falter again because she hasn't actually changed as a person and is still pretty entitled. The revival takes place only 9 years after the end of Season 7, and Rory has been having struggles for a few years now, so the timeline makes sense to me. Plus, it's even more depressing now that she's an adult.
@StudioHannah
@StudioHannah 3 жыл бұрын
I felt this, I was a G&T kid and was even called a “golden child” by one of my teachers, but then graduated college and was like, “Welp.... I don’t own a company yet, so I failed.” I didn’t even consider that doing normal life things was totally fine. I struggled with myself a lot until I learned to be happy with my life even if it’s not some wild main-character story. I rent a little place with several other single women and some cats, I am at a low position in my company but I make enough money to pay my bills, and I have a little garden. And I’m pretty happy with that :)
@tallyp.7643
@tallyp.7643 Жыл бұрын
I'm nearly 40 now, waiting for a callback on a 2nd job that could let me live semi-comfortably if I go cheap, but I was supposed to be a teacher. That's what I was gonna be my whole life, but it just didn't work out. I realized partway through that I couldn't handle all the thousand little things day after day for decades. It just wasn't me. Didn't help that I'd focused so much on learning and doing the proper classes and such that I missed out how networking became the way you got jobs more than what showed on your transcripts. I had to graduate twice to figure that out, and felt like no matter where I went, I was two steps behind. I gave up & was on the verge of a nervous breakdown when I got to the point where I was working every hour available at three jobs and truly lived just to work Now, I'm hoping to work to live, & get this 2nd job so I have a base wage to plan around and start saving again, and it'll give me time to work on my garden, exercise, take online courses, cook healthy food, be with my pets, and perhaps volunteer again when I have time and enough money saved up. Finding a tangible happy place, even this late in the timeline, is worth it more than clinging to old plans that didn't pan out and bemoaning their loss.
@SavedByGrace_CitizenEmperorユウ
@SavedByGrace_CitizenEmperorユウ 3 жыл бұрын
Gilmore Girls, to me, is a good example of the difference between watching a show to be mostly entertained and analyzing it while watching. Here it makes a huge difference. The majority just laughing about the jokes, enjoying the drama, the characters and the storylines, plus putting Lorelai and Rory on a pedestal, will enjoy Gilmore Girls a lot (as I used to do). Those thinking about their behaviour and what kind of people Lorelai and Rory really are, will probably have a hard time watching more than one random episode. I wanna add that we as viewers often decide to watch something mostly for entertaining reasons. But the show is written much more complex with much more thoughts into every aspect. And even though it seems that young Rory is leading the best life ever, she didn't grow up in a stable environment without a father figure, with a childish mom, with many people around her making her feel super special like she would automatically reach every goal she'd ever set. Young Rory of course didn't realize how fragile her life was at that time. Because even though a Rory has a lot of potential, she still has to prove herself in the real world. And that isn't Stars Hollow. It's really really tough, dangerous and demands of you to take a lot of risks and hard work. Something she wasn't really prepared for.
@arnaeri9290
@arnaeri9290 3 жыл бұрын
the way you worded this makes me think that no matter how annoying Rory was growing up, a lot of the blame is on her environment and the people that raised her and were supposed to teach/prepare her for the real world. seems that both her mom and her grandparents failed Rory. you can get annoyed and hate Rory all you want, but she's only doing what she's told or knows to do (didn't watch the show btw. just saying)
@SavedByGrace_CitizenEmperorユウ
@SavedByGrace_CitizenEmperorユウ 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnaeri9290 Yes, my intention was definitely to point out this sometimes forgotten fact. It's easy to blame Rory (and even Lorelai) for behaving badly and having troubles with life. With Rory it is of course easier since we watch her life unfold and do not have to do a lot of gueswork like with Lorelai's past. As the video very well explains, Rory was a child prodigee destined to achieve great things. But based on what? Being smart? Being Lorelai's daughter, being the grandchild of Richard and Emily? Thin ice. Rory did everything she was told and believed that she was a princess. Her mom spread the word and the residents of Stars Hollow believed that Rory was indeed very special. Again I say: Rory hadn't been prepared for life (at all). She was under the impression that things would run smoothly when in college and that she would reach all of her goals. It makes me sad how tragic Rory's life became when we all thought that life was lying at her feet and she would become someone great. As mentioned, now with her mother's age when she was born, she has achieved less (or nothing) than her mother, who made it on her own. Okay, life is unpredictable and anything is possible, but still, it's very disappointing having to start all over again with 30 and kind of having to learn the things Rory didn't learn growing up as a now adult.
@oliviaobrien9113
@oliviaobrien9113 3 жыл бұрын
I always hated how the whole town put Rory and Lorelai on a pedestal. After season 2/3 we never really see them do much for the town and just seem to be annoyed by the townies’ antics so it makes no sense why they love them so much. Also can you imagine being any other child in stars hollow and seeing the whole town act like Rory is the greatest person to ever exist?
@helenad5859
@helenad5859 3 жыл бұрын
the problem everyone assumed Rory could never do anything wrong. Like after the car crash, poor Rory, after the yatch event, it was Rory's idea, but every time Lorelai told the story it was Logan to blame. Or the story that Logan told that Rory followed her teacher to his home, so she could re apply the paper, and she got an A. She never learns that action has consequences.
@ryanarment5393
@ryanarment5393 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai really did set rory up for failure. she spent rory's whole life teaching her that she was special, and because she was special that things would happen. People would see her specialness and open doors for her. While everyone adored the dynamic of their relationship, i really thought that lorelai was doing her a huge disservice. rory needed a stable parent who would provide discipline and guidance. She needed someone to teach her that working hard is instrumental in success. That natural talent and intellect only gets one so far. She didn't need a 30 year old adolescent trying to be her friend. Granted after the harsh realization a lot of people go through, rory owed it to herself to adapt, buckle down and put in the work.
@cryptidian3530
@cryptidian3530 Жыл бұрын
Rory was obviously spoiled, but the show was amazing. I don't think it's bad writing to create a whole show like that.
@daniellevinson6975
@daniellevinson6975 3 ай бұрын
The part about being spoiled is only *half* true; for all the idyllic things about Rory's formative years, she still had to play parent when Lorelei should've been doing that. Rory's adulthood antics are partly a matter of her being the child she never could be during actual childhood!!
@mememefinally
@mememefinally 3 жыл бұрын
I love it how realistic they portrayed her with all her flaws and failings and not make her a typical "hero" who can't do anything wrong and all the boys can't resist. It is very rare in American TV shows. Remember the scene where she asks a boy out, certain that he will say yes, and the guy was like "No thanks".
@mensi8224
@mensi8224 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but not on the boy part. It’s so unrealistic , idk if You’ve seen the New series but even after 20 years Jess and Dean are still obsessed with her and she never properly got rejected honestly like this one time doesn’t really count to me. She’s never had feelings that weren’t reciprocated
@lhallnance
@lhallnance 3 жыл бұрын
No offense to Logan but when rory started dating him was the beginning of her downward spiral. While he improved and became better she seemed to get more into her privilege like the roles reversed and yet she still viewed herself as superior to him. I was getting ready to start a rant but I stopped myself with just this one point lol
@rauldempaire5330
@rauldempaire5330 3 жыл бұрын
Does that mean you had "writers block"?...
@DianaHernandez-jf5zo
@DianaHernandez-jf5zo 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Only I don’t think it’s Logan’s fault. She was always on a high horse. But dating someone who was also on a high horse made her realize how privileged she was and she didn’t like it. Meanwhile he changed and grew. She just got further in denial.
@lhallnance
@lhallnance 3 жыл бұрын
@@DianaHernandez-jf5zo I don't blame him either. I think he just gave her the opportunity to be in that environment without someone holding her accountable to her actions. To me he's like the older version of Tristan from high school. She spurned him and had stars hollow, her mom, etc to keep her accountable to principles (but she still kissed him!) With Logan she ate slept and breathed the rich girl environment and wasn't forced to leave at the end of the day to small town life.
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 3 жыл бұрын
No. Rory had already cheated on Dean with Jess, she had already slept with a married Dean, and had already began to be an entitled brat. Logan has nothing to do with this.
@mayraortega8627
@mayraortega8627 3 жыл бұрын
I see u but I think her spiral started when she cheated with dean
@Xara_K1
@Xara_K1 3 жыл бұрын
Society judges millenials as if it didn't actively create them 😂.
@diegodunn-humphrey512
@diegodunn-humphrey512 2 жыл бұрын
So did the romans when their younger generation was born
@chloekravatz84
@chloekravatz84 3 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is less that Rory got praised too much, but that no one ever taught her how to handle failure when it happens. I don't like this idea that praising your kids is the problem, it implies people only become good people if you're an asshole to them, and if no one is an asshole to you you'll grow up entitled. It sounds like encouraging bad abusive parenting. No, it's perfectionism, insisting failure is never an option, that screws kids up. Rory never learned how to solve her own problems, not because people helped her too much, but because no one ever told her it's okay to fail. They never taught her HOW to fail. They put TONS of pressure on her and insisted it was ridiculous to think she might fail. When she left Yale her mother abandoned her. She was smothered in their expectations. Which is something I imagine many millennials can relate to.
@poppypopper7123
@poppypopper7123 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! There's nothing wrong with being surrounded by people who support you and hope the best for you, it's about how to manage your life when things don't go your way.
@diegodunn-humphrey512
@diegodunn-humphrey512 2 жыл бұрын
True
@lujorom9172
@lujorom9172 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment!!
@signalfire15
@signalfire15 3 жыл бұрын
Rory getting into the big three does make sense for her character though. She wasn't just a kid with good grades, she was also on the Franklin, she was vice president of the student body, she had an alumni vouching for her and the headmaster of Chilton, and she most likely did very well on her essay and her interview. The only reason Paris didn't get into Harvard was because she bombed the interview badly. Otherwise, she would have gotten in. Rory also had her grandparents influence for Yale.
@oliviaobrien9113
@oliviaobrien9113 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai was such an emotionally immature parent it’s not really surprising Rory ended up that way. If Lorelai had acted like a mother as opposed to a best friend then maybe Rory would have realised that she can’t just go through life doing whatever she wants. Lorelai would never admit when Rory was in the wrong and it just ended up hurting her in the long run. It also didn’t help that Rory pretty much had to spend her whole childhood overachieving to basically justify her existence.
@katarinalindgren6121
@katarinalindgren6121 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, and so glad someone says it. But it's never really addressed. Rory had to live up to being the Rory the people around her demanded, especially Lorelai's demands. It's quite scary.
@amxranthine2766
@amxranthine2766 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly. I remember a few times when lorelai would not agree to rory's requests and rory would act as if her mom should absolutely no say in how rory should make decisions. Like when she slept with dean, rory refused to believe she did something wrong and when lorelai confronted her about it, SHE GOT MAD. I mean aren't your parents suppose to tell you whays fundamentally right and wrong. Loerai should have taken more authority when rory was young.
@LX-kt90rx
@LX-kt90rx 3 жыл бұрын
Whew, such good points! I think Lorelei was always trying to make up for getting pregnant and “ruining” her life and family dynamic (not what I think, but what’s portrayed). When Rory turned out to be smart and studious, Lorelei capitalized on that, living vicariously through Rory, and using Rory’s “goodness” and intelligence as a justification for her choice to leave her parents. When Rory starts to fail in big ways, Lorelei has a hard time coping just as much as Rory does because both of their identities hung on Rory being exceptional, when it turns out, Rory is just like everyone else.
@lauriebluej
@lauriebluej 3 жыл бұрын
@@LX-kt90rx that’s a good point. “somehow” Rory wanting to go to Harvard and being an excellent student never collided with Lorelei’s rules. Because they were the favorites of the town and she was too proud of her daughter. Lorelai gets the perfect daughter to cover her own backstory, Rory gets the mother who can protect her from everyone who’s calling her out. A perfectly toxic balance.
@LX-kt90rx
@LX-kt90rx 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauriebluej you’re absolutely right. And then when when that balance was upset (Rory wasn’t “perfect” anymore and Lorelei couldn’t protect her anymore) they spent an entire season basically not speaking to each other. They’re entire relationship hinged on the illusion of perfection.
@diunasiek
@diunasiek 3 жыл бұрын
I just love the downfall of Rory. It's so true, because every person will have some sort of downfall in their life. Rory got everything on the golden plate since she was very young, so her downfall came later in life. It's so wise of Amy Sherman-Palladino to create Rory's arc like that.
@diegodunn-humphrey512
@diegodunn-humphrey512 2 жыл бұрын
It is
@dantilion7915
@dantilion7915 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be Rory so much when I was younger but then watching a year in the life has now made me so glad that I'm not, I think the worst thing about her was her inability to take criticism and accept when she had failed at something. Everyone fails but what actually counts is recognising what went wrong and doing it again and again until you succeed
@yourelovin
@yourelovin 3 жыл бұрын
so well-put!
@FabalociousDee
@FabalociousDee 3 жыл бұрын
The millenials, like all generations, are judged by the most PRIVILEGED of them. Many millenials are not constantly told we're wonderful. Many of us have had to fight just to have a fraction of what our predecessors had & complained about having, and that'll only get worse for future generations. But Rory...yeah, she's kind of disappointing.
@marilima9986
@marilima9986 3 жыл бұрын
We all know Paris Geller was the real MVP of this show
@ymn5201
@ymn5201 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that a lot of Rory's stunted growth comes from Loralai always being the fun mom
@bacul165
@bacul165 3 жыл бұрын
I was an overarching kid. Luckily my parents never seemed to put any value in grades, always encouraging me to do extracurricular activities, especially those where I wasn't brilliant, like sports and music. I am now a teacher. I love my job so much! Sometimes people ask me why I didn't go into academics or why I don't go into school management or something. But no. I'm doing exactly what I enjoy doing, I'm good at my job and I enjoy my life immensely. No money, no career, no status could make me happier.
@RaeBehrs
@RaeBehrs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I never understood why so many people viewed Rory as the perfect adorable sweet girl next door. She has many flaws, some of them being major (like the infidelity and self-centered delusion denying her own guilt).
@snoozyq9576
@snoozyq9576 Жыл бұрын
the literal only reason people see her that way is because characters keep saying she is that way. it's really weird
@ei5859
@ei5859 Жыл бұрын
I think everyone including the watcher forgets that Rory didn't always have it easy. She wasn't just a smart miracle kid, she worked hard for it. But everyone (characters) acts like it's natural for Rory to be smart so she started to believe in it too and stopped working hard that much because her efforts are not being recognized and praised.
@juanitamorgan5475
@juanitamorgan5475 Жыл бұрын
The fact that she wanted to turn her mother's life store into a book for the entire world to read is despicable
@daniellevinson6975
@daniellevinson6975 3 ай бұрын
That 50-50 split between idyllic and heart-wrenching factors explains why Rory persisted in her immaturity for so long.
@passiveagressive4983
@passiveagressive4983 3 жыл бұрын
Big mistake treating Rory like your best friend and not your friggin daughter 😂😂😂😂😂
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Too true! It's mostly down to Lorelai being a teenager herself when Rory was born, so had to grow up quickly, yet still behaved childishly.
@jennterry6977
@jennterry6977 3 жыл бұрын
I love Lorelai but rewatching the show...she wasn't always the greatest mom. She made out with her daughter's teacher at the school. She got engaged to a man she knew deep down she'd never marry. She ran from commitment for years. And she kept giving Rory false hope she'd get back with her dad. Plus treating Rory like she was an angel instead of just like everyone else.
@rescatooor
@rescatooor 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai could have been way worse than she was. I expected her to be overly involved in Rory's life due to what I had heard of the show before watching it. But I was positively surprised that even in the first episode we see her taking a more motherly/parental role in her relationship with Rory by telling her she is not ditching Chilton for a guy. Not saying she is perfect but I wouldn't be tracing all of Rory's flaws to her.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 жыл бұрын
Lorelei has proven she can turn into a real mom when it Matters Remember that arc when she cut Rory off and basically told her to fuck off
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 жыл бұрын
@@trinaq did you watch the show? Lorelei can be a mom when it matters like the time she kicked Rory out of the house
@Montana677
@Montana677 3 жыл бұрын
I had to quit watching gilmore girls, I could deal with Rory being a brat, but I couldn't deal with everyone acting like she was an angel.
@LindzFletch17
@LindzFletch17 3 жыл бұрын
Paris is a total badass in the revival - the way she holds the door closed with her foot, she is a legend! that's what going off of the set of Gilmore Girls, and onto the set of How to Get Away With Murder does
@suddhadasi
@suddhadasi Жыл бұрын
I was addicted to these series back in my late teens, I just loved everything about Rory. Though we did not have the same background, I totally recognized myself in her. Doing really good at school does not make you a confident person and all those expectations well-meaning people put on you don't help getting there. I loved how she was trying to get somewhere despite being shy, reserved and socially awkward. And yes, she did make mistakes and used shortcuts when they were available. Who wouldn't when you already struggle as is. It's really incredible how much judgement that character gets here in this video. Apparently, a woman needs to be no less than perfect in her looks, behavior, speech and what not according to this. Where is the deeper understanding of individual struggles regardless of our background, where is the compassion? Luckily, it's just fictional character but I do recognize in this judgmental monologue how society views women, how it measures them, how it defines what is succes, how it dictates what is humble. We still have a long way to go...
@juanitamorgan5475
@juanitamorgan5475 Жыл бұрын
She thought that she was too good and that's why she didn't accept the job self-entitlement can be very dangerous
@Calenethuil2
@Calenethuil2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this topic. I was so disillusioned with A Year In the Life.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto. As far as I'm concerned, AYITL isn't Canon.
@natalyaporter5730
@natalyaporter5730 3 жыл бұрын
@@trinaq I agree
@Salsa4268
@Salsa4268 3 жыл бұрын
Please, for the sake of my sanity, stop making Loralie that she’s so good and mature when she literally is one of the most toxic people I’ve seen. She constantly gaslights, blames other people, cheats, victimize herself, and manipulates situations. Yes she built her own life, she is a strong, but she is not a saint. (And no I don’t think Rory isn’t toxic, like daughter like mother, but I think you made Loralie seem way to ‘good’ compared to Rory just because she’s a millennial.)
@liviamoreiralima3536
@liviamoreiralima3536 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Always making herself the center of attention, it's hard because Emily is "the b i t c h" when she snaps at her sarcasm, but really this type of daughter/relative is impossible to be around. Emily is rigid and always playing a persona, i really dislike her, but i would take her side sometimes there.. And Rory didn't develop social skills because her mother always stole the show, she only has one best friend, given that she is actually really that introverted..... but even if she is, my God that girl did not stand a chance with a larger than life mother like that. I think Rory should go to therapy.
@nursedanig2246
@nursedanig2246 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s hysterical how people think Loralai is so self made. Her dad literally gave her $75,000 of pretend “I owe you this money” so she could buy her inn. And then Luke promptly gives her $30,000 like it’s nothing. She is not self made. Unless you consider Kylie Jenner self made. Loralai thinks she’s the best mom, best friend, most hard working, funniest person ever and she isn’t. She is sooooo annoying. Of course poor Rory was set up for failure having that train wreck for a mother.
@zpromi448
@zpromi448 2 жыл бұрын
@@liviamoreiralima3536 lets just agree the whole family is somewhat....strange
@zpromi448
@zpromi448 2 жыл бұрын
@@nursedanig2246 on the other hand it think its kind of hypocritical to just blame rorys failure or character traits on her mother and leave her father, Christopher, all outside.^ I mean if you notice how bad Lorelai is at parenting, why isnt he stepping in? Why did he move to California or where he is at the beginning instead of just being near them so that he can step in case? And if he is there, he is making empty promisses (like when he wants to buy Rory something in the book store, telling her it doenst matter what the costs are to only find himself not having enough money and the credit card not working). I think its a quite patriarchal way to blame kids failure only on the parenting techniques on the mother and leave the fathers completely out, even or especially when they were staying, letting the other parent go with their misparenting style, doing nothing to stop it.
@nursedanig2246
@nursedanig2246 2 жыл бұрын
@@zpromi448 agree 100%
@KlaudiaShaefferr
@KlaudiaShaefferr 11 ай бұрын
1:53 you mean “economic privilege” not necessarily white. A person of any color can act like that with her economic status
@babaykyu7577
@babaykyu7577 3 жыл бұрын
Rory loved to portray herself as working-class, coming from the bottom, which is I believe is mainly because Lorelai denied her own privileged and loved to cosplay as working-class.
@caravandy1327
@caravandy1327 2 жыл бұрын
"cosplay as working class" - awesome.
@maddyb7899
@maddyb7899 3 жыл бұрын
I like it also shows how school doesn’t necessarily prepare you for the real world Rory was really good at school because she didn’t really have to fight for things and was successful by staying the same smart “nice” girl she was perceived but she never grew any tools or traits needed to navigate the real world especially the extremely stressful world of journalism
@theresaclarkeharter4781
@theresaclarkeharter4781 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel like Rory was “perfect” as a kid and made lots of mistakes while growing through adulthood..which is normal!! But she is super privileged and I liked when Logan called her out, she is literally an Ivy League legacy kid!!
@astronomerin
@astronomerin 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video a few times already and it is SO good. I loved it, maybe because I relate to Rory. It wasn't an easy pill to swallow though. I was raised as a golden child. It was alright for a long while, as long as it was enough for me to just be myself - an introverted bookworm and a curious student with a little bit of intelligence. Praised be people around me, I didn't really understand where this phenomenon of my teen success came from. I thought it was all me. But it was also my parents providing me with good education and my teachers, most of them really engaged in teaching and with innovative approach. It was also the system in which I was praised for just doing what I liked and what was quite effortless for me. My adult life also didn't go all well and glorious, just like Rory's didn't. Underpaid and without purpose, I couldn't have found my own path. The old habits just weren't enough. Took me years to figure out what went wrong and how. Where should I put some effort to make it right again. Because of this video I get to look back and make an introspective take on my life which is priceless for me. The end of the revival was bitter but also cathartic. Rory gets to make a life on her own. And I hope to start over with some new healthy perspective, just as Rory does.
@PrincessTori51091
@PrincessTori51091 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, now do one on how Lorelai burdening her teen daughter with her own problems, requiring her teen daughter to mother HER, and making her teen daughter a pawn in her battle against her parents resulted in her teen daughter turning into a maladjusted young adult.
@Colee617-n6q
@Colee617-n6q Жыл бұрын
yes, yes and yes!
@LolZebra32919
@LolZebra32919 3 жыл бұрын
Wow it’s kinda genius that this whole series ended with Rory writing a book about HER story, like how she sees every relationship, every interaction, etc. as another chapter of her own story rather than something that affects other peoples’ lives. And every time she asks a character if she can write about them (she asked Lorelei and Dean), they’re hesitant and uncomfortable, but she somehow talks her way into it. I think that captures not only her entitlement but the problems with her upbringing-everyone is there to save her, to praise her, to give her what she wants, and in reality, that blinds her from her own mistakes and flaws. The book captures everything wrong with Rory. It’s also interesting how the whole thing was Jess’s idea-HE suggested she write about her and her mom, so this book wasn’t born out of Rory’s own creativity (of course she’ll be the one to write it and deserves most credit, but the idea still wasn’t hers), so this again raises the question, does she deserve all the praise she gets? Is she as good of a journalist as her family wants to believe? Personally, I think she deserved all the praise she got at the VERY beginning of the show. She was genuinely kind, caring, innocent, and incredibly smart. SHE had worked for her good grades and acceptance into Chilton because her grandparents (moreso her grandparents’ money) weren’t in the picture yet. As the show progressed, and we saw her poor love life, stupid mistakes, and inability to take responsibility, she was less deserving of that praise. However, I personally didn’t notice all her flaws (besides her shitty treatment towards men and occasional lack of gratitude for her privilege) and I think this is why. She was introduced as a good character who worked for everything she had and deserved all the praise she got, so I was predisposed to believing she would always be a successful, nearly flawless character. In a way, I was kinda roped into the same thought process as those around her.
@AC-ze1nh
@AC-ze1nh 2 жыл бұрын
Good point about the book and it making people uncomfortable! She just railroaded them because she "needed it", never mind how it would make everyone else feel. Also... why didn't she just change people's names...?
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr Жыл бұрын
@@AC-ze1nh because all she cares about is being rich
@limonsito085
@limonsito085 3 жыл бұрын
In the words of Taylor Swift: "I had the shiniest wheels. Now they're rusting." I genuinely believe Taylor was watching the GG revival when she wrote "this is me trying"
@taylorswizzzle9039
@taylorswizzzle9039 2 жыл бұрын
Omg Yeah i also thought About this🤠
@user-ep3fo5vw1v
@user-ep3fo5vw1v 3 жыл бұрын
Rory's downfall was that she's always been told that she's great and perfect, everyone treated her like she was a princess, and when one person told her she didnt have what it takes, her whole world came crashing down. and when she got into the real world and realised that being cute little Rory isn't enough, she lashed out. she was set up for failure because people always treated her like she was so special
@MsHannahFlower
@MsHannahFlower 3 жыл бұрын
YALL Rory was written by BOOMERS. It's a BOOMER'S perspective of a spoiled millenial. She was written realistically in her (and the show's) younger years, but over time became more of a caricature and a projection of a boomer's idea of what she would be. Don't shame Rory, blame Amy Sherman Palladino for ruining her own protagonist.
@apolloscrow3686
@apolloscrow3686 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry that you’re triggered, but the analysis is pretty damn accurate, and it’s quite easy to observe these characteristics IRL. Ironically you’re demonstrating one right now.
@MsHannahFlower
@MsHannahFlower 3 жыл бұрын
@@apolloscrow3686 Cool, thank you for the feedback!
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 3 жыл бұрын
@@apolloscrow3686 Ok Boomer
@purpurina5663
@purpurina5663 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe a writer is obligated to make their characters morally right, or to redeem them when they f up. It *is* more real this way -endless praise and things coming easy do result in… well, Rory’s situation.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 3 жыл бұрын
@@purpurina5663 It's like they remembered all bad traits Rory accumulated in 7 seasons and didn't remember the good. How do you go from following Senator Obama before he became President to a loser smooching off her rich family?
@signalfire15
@signalfire15 3 жыл бұрын
This video embodies one of the very many things that makes the show amazing. To have such complex female characters on TV shows is just great. People get so upset at Rory's "downfall" but I love it because I just feel like it's so damn authentic to real life and real womanhood.
@cydie
@cydie 11 ай бұрын
"You're quiet, you say 'excuse me', you look like little birds help you get dressed in the morning, people don't fear you!" i genuinely loved paris
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 3 жыл бұрын
"It's not always good to do what's asked of you" True. Someone on TV Tropes pointed out that Rory was adored by everyone for being pretty and brilliant or being existent. From her mother to her neighbors to her grandparents. Ever think of covering Kim Parker from Moesha and The Parkers?
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 3 жыл бұрын
Also the fact that she had to be more mature than her grandparents and parents didn't help
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely, Rory and Lorelai switched roles by the end. Rory started off mature and grounded, basically parenting her own mother, but she eventually becomes a single parent herself, being twice Lorelai's age when she had her. Lorelai, by contrast, really grows and develops.
@pa6780
@pa6780 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched the first season, Rory was the unattainable standard I wanted to achieve. She was everything I wasn't and also in a way, inspiring but also in many other ways annoying. The person I related to deeply was Paris and the episode where she didnt get into Harvard genuinely broke my heart.
@basaksezgin5519
@basaksezgin5519 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that Rory's downfall came with how she drew away from Lorelai and became closer to her grandparents.
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