rory & logan (46)

[@danielsark4118]

Can you imagine if Paris was in Rory's place "You don't got it" "FIRST OF ALL"

[@tiffanywitherspoon8722]

Paris would have never been in that position.

[@kandrpy3161]

Why did I see this scene perfectly in my head

[@christinasolano4847]

@@tiffanywitherspoon8722 right! Like she would've been in it!

[@charlieclark9552]

I'm sorry but paris has got it that's her personality is getting it

[@lexirodriguez8112]

Paris would’ve told the people at the meeting that they’re brain dead & then suggested & given ideas so she’d never be in that position to begin win 😭bc paris just never shuts up & i love that

[@AP-pm9qy]

Even if Mitch was wrong, her reaction just proves that he is right! Mitch tells her that she doesn't have what it takes and her reaction is to give up. She could have challenged him & tried to prove him wrong. Really look for something daring to write, but no she believes him, drops out of Yale, steals a boat. Rory obviously lacks grit. I credit the writers for creating a believable character that is not a perfect angel.

[@greendiamondglow]

Angela Peters I'd give them more credit if it were intentional.

[@TheLoverspit]

Agreed.

[@ronnette5656]

true, i remember the first time i saw this and just thinking "wow she didnt even asked what he meant be 'dont got it' or how could she improve". wth. disappointed w her but also ive grown to love her so like just slightly disappointed?? pft

[@nadimabbas4093]

No he's wrong. Rory's a genius writer and publishing editor and has the highest achievements in both Chilton and Yale. She is cut out to work for Mitch's paper and he was an idiot for underestimating her capabilities

[@AP-pm9qy]

@@nadimabbas4093 I see what you saying but Chilton and Yale does not equal real world experience. There's a lot of people who excel in school that don't excel in the real world. She may have been cut out to work on Mitch's paper but she never proved him wrong or even tried to prove him wrong.

[@ObsidianGloria]

Watching this in highschool, I remember this scene being a lot more intimidating than this. He's being incredibly gentle. All he said was basically, "You should speak up more, and not be afraid to overstep or have your own ideas."

[@baymoo]

yeah my first watch was a few months back and i thought he was so wrong for saying that but ive been rewatching this season (its one of my favs along with season 4) now i see where he’s coming from the deal was she would intern a few days then he would tell if if she had it and got the job and she didn’t. she should’ve worked harder at it and proved him wrong or went to a different internship with a better attitude.

[@sockpuppet1]

She could have a career in academics,I' m sure she would be great at research.

[@vickenator]

I never watched the series straight through but saw enough of it to know what was going on, and finally watched this scene -- and I think Mitchum is right on the money. You have to be more hard-nosed and dogged and nosy and bossy to be a good investigative journalist, and not be afraid to have your feelings hurt or have doors slammed in your face. Rory was not cut out for that sort of career, and he was gentle and careful in how he conveyed this, but still professional. I think he liked Rory as a person, and he did her a huge favor by being honest with her. Lorelai would have been a better journalist, I think!

[@Skyebright1]

Yeah the revival showed she had no ideas of her own

[@champigranja1179]

@@sockpuppet1 This. I don't see her as a journalist either. She can do research, that's for sure. Imagine her as a war correspondent or something, she would call Lorelai to come over and rescue her. But Rory would have shone in literature or even philosophy.

[@Unfiltered494]

"I'd love your feedback", she said, then sat down expecting to be gushed over, like she was by her entire family her whole life. She didn't want feedback, she wanted someone to pat her on the back and tell her what a walking perfection she was. How she handled this situation only proves that Mitchum was right about her. Also, everyone else getting pissed at Mitchum as if it was his obligation to give her some special treatment always had me baffled. He wasn't rude to her, he just gave her his professional opinion like he would've any other intern.

[@Tuepfely]

I feel like this is a little harsh. She got along so well with everyone. To be told on your LAST day that you just sucked bc you don't have "it" is not constructive in any way. I would flip if I did an intern and my advisior told me on my last day that he wasn't happy with my work. Maybe if he told her earlier on that he expected more from her than the tasks he's given her, she could have applied his criticism. This is just unfair and a waste of an intern's time. And yes, our time is valuable too, even if we aren't successful and fully educated in our profession (yet)

[@oooh19]

They should have had a cake for her on her last day

[@michaeldefeo1439]

I dont feel like what Mitchum did in regards to Rory was wrong. It's his paper company and he runs it and hes allowed to run it how he wants no matter how harsh it might seem and everyone makes mistakes. However how he handled it afterwards in regards to him never telling Richard or at least explaining what happen to Richard, when supposedly they were friends that's where I say he was way wrong. I mean at the party where Richard found out the truth, before that Mitchum and his wife Sheera were talking to Richard and Emily as though they did nothing wrong to Rory and at the very least they could have at least explained it to them. That's just how I see it.

[@krissy33]

Tuepfely in the real world people aren’t always going to be nice and he told her what she needed to improve on if this is truly her passion she would have took what he said and worked on the things he pointed out , life is about growing and learning . It was her ego that got deflated because she is used to being an over achiever and believing that what ever she does will be correct.

[@rachelmanavi4819]

Exactly, throughout the series it is very clear that Rory is very used to people loving her. I mean she has an entire town that worships the ground she walks on, her mother gives her so much attention bc she’s the only child, she never had to pursue any guy; they all pursued her. The one time she asked a guy out and he declined it was a huge thing. Even Emily who is rude to basically everyone including her own daughter (Lorelai) loves Rory. Ah remember when Logan went through so much effort to get Rory and waited by the coffee cart all day just to see her and after all his effort she was like “well I guess we can have one dinner.” I was like wow talk about a lack of affection. She got so much of it her whole life she doesn’t even feel the need to reciprocate it

[@Romy-90]

"You see in the real world...it's not good enough to do just what is asked of you." Man, that just hits differently when you rewatch the show as an adult and you realize how true that statement is. Everyone who had to work their butt of to get or stay in a certain job knows what I mean. Rory went into that talk with "I would love to hear a feedback!" and expected to be praised like she always is by everyone around her. Her ego in the last seasons (especially in the revival, my God...) is so huge, it is really unwatchable.

[@chitsb]

So true. I have heard much worse at the newspapers and media houses I interned at. Including having to put up with sexist crap. Mitchum was nice in comparison. She truly don’t got it. He even told Richard later she would have bounced back had she had what it takes.

[@Hi-vr3kd]

@@chitsb omg yes the way people act like mitchum tore her to shreds when he was just honest, maybe a little harsh at the worst. and he still gave her chances to prove him wrong when he mentioned how his gut had been wrong before but she just gave up at the first sign of criticism that couldve driven her to work harder.

[@andreacadena3803]

yeah what he said is correct

[@damsykl]

@@Hi-vr3kd I watched this when I was 16 and now Im 20. Now I understand this. What mitchum said wasnt that offensive. This is just a talk that happens in real life. I heard this on my internship. I know how much it sucks to hear it. But I accepted I can’t be always praised and that I can use the feedback to learn from it and be better

[@Alzzie13]

When she got an F at Chilton, she worked her ass off because she was driven. And here we are.

[@NarutoUzumaki-ll6ib]

@Kartun Land she still does tho. Wdym?

[@madwild14]

It was a D I think

[@fati6269]

Yay she gives up and starts to throw her life away cause someone says she don’t got she it and didn’t even ask how to improve that’s real drive

[@TheMarkmcr]

The bad grade wasn't due to her not making enough effort. It was because she had not yet adjusted to the new course material. She had even been warned about it happening ahead of time, yet she still had a meltdown. And then there's the deer encounter...

[@awesomeblossom5214]

@@fati6269 to be fair she did pop back up to save and run the Yale Daily News... but... I mean, she had so much potential

[@carlingnugent]

Rory was never bold, adventurous, or brave enough to be a journalist. She romanticized the job because she WANTED to be suited to it - but never was.

[@mi5spiNk]

i agree.. and that's what they showed in the year in a life. Rory was an amazing writer. She could write stories better than anyone else but being a journalist, in the way Mitchum sees it, needs more than just being a good writer. In Mitchum's point of view journalists and especially great ones, need guts, need to be adventurous, be a little ruthless and rory is not like that. i believe that's the story Any would have turned rory's joblife into in season 7, if she hadn't left the show, turned her into a writer. Basically what she did in the year in the life

[@nadimabbas4093]

No Rory has experience in journalism since she was already a journalist at the Chilton paper and has made some excellent choices in writing articles and making right decisions. Mitch was lucky to have her at his paper and yet he was wrong to accuse her of being unfit because she is more capable than anyone thinks

[@oooh19]

Why did she wait until junior year to join Chilton Paper? She could have done it sophomore year too

[@rachelmanavi4819]

oooh19 because she is not too much of a go getter

[@Jennah0908]

Nadim Abbas I actually agree with you (Not necessarily with how Rory reacted to it) But we saw that she was very hard working, intelligent, a good speaker/writer etc... she was definitely capable of being a journalist. Attending a good private school and a top college in fact prepares you for much better opportunities after you graduate. It isn’t all for nothing! Obviously you need to be motivated and don’t just get things handed to you on a plate but it’s still a massive advantage.. Rory was just close minded, not proactive enough and expected things to come her own way- not because she doesn’t ‘have it.’ That’s a load of BS. People in her position mainly get lost because they were previously used to having a structure and are now afraid of the uncertainty when they enter the real world- not because they simply can’t do it. With a bit of drive, they can certainly achieve their goals!

[@tati79ana]

When I first watched this scene, I hated him and felt sorry for her. Years later, watching this scene again, I can say with confidence that, as a professional, Mitchum was great. He was doing her a favor. His feedback was on point and respectful. He even gave her the benefit of doubt. Maybe his gut was wrong. She had the opportunity to prove him wrong. She chose otherwise. An opportunity to sit down with a Journalism Magnat, to learn real stuff from him at first hand, and she chooses to get up and leave with a pouty face? Rory didn't really want/love Journalism, she loved the idea of it. When you truly want something, nothing and no one stops you.

[@sarakathryn8358]

I used to want to be a paralegal and when I worked at a law office, one of the attorneys fairly kindly told me that it probably wasn't a good fit. After many horrible law office experiences and now in teaching school, I can totally say that the attorney was right. I wish I'd listened to him. I guess what I'm trying to say is that either reaction can be right (working harder or giving up) and it depends on the person.

[@damarisanell]

Right? Teenager me thought he was an inconsiderate asshole, but adult me sees now that in fact he respectfully told her exactly what she needed to work on: being more assertive, thinking out of the box and not being afraid of sharing it, being bold. Rory's argument that she always does only what's expected of her sounds like such a bland excuse that should have opened her eyes as she said it, because that was exactly the issue Mitchum was talking about. I understand her being deflated and disappointed in the moment, but she only proved him right by crumbling instead of fighting for her dream.

[@Andrea-uc1wz]

@@damarisanell When i watched in my teens years i toughtnthe same Now as an adult i understand him

[@slvrangel22]

What I love about this show is that I can have a completely different experience watching it now as someone who is 40 versus being 20.

[@missygraceful]

He also said that it is his opinion so… he was his professional point of view

[@Sam-0827]

I don't get why Rory gave up. Mitchum did say "guts can be wrong". That was her chance, to work and show him she had it. He may have been a newspaper mogul, but Rory challenging his opinion of her set in stone, well, frankly, that's journalism. That's rory season 1. When Paris stuck her with the cementing of the parking lot article in Chilton, rory clapped back with an eloquent and intellectual article. Rory season 1>>>> rory season 5

[@kykydespeignes8882]

To be fair competing with your class mate dont hold the same.power as the Word of a mogul who build an empire base of the same profession you like

[@trex0004]

"Rory, this isn't you...." Sigh, Jess

[@karismalovesglitter]

@@kykydespeignes8882 true, but I think it’s more how her attitude changed as opposed to her writing style

[@alongalostaway]

Dads be like “I may have dropped the ball but he turned out alright” while at the bar with their drinking buddies and their son is in rehab for the eighth time finally succumbing to the hallucinations of hell and willing his internal organs to fail

[@Books_Makeup]

Mitchum was testing her to see if she would give up. After gaining the feedback. She stole a boat. I think Rory is a good villain to herself. Nobody is a villain in the story aside from privilege, coddling and entitlement. Which is why we don't like her.

[@janayclark3748]

And instead of being tenacious, and a go-getter, like her season one, ambitious self, she mopes, steals a boat, and drops out of Yale. And in the future only manages to get street story jobs. Proved him tf right!

[@oooh19]

yea Rory in season 1 was only 16 yet adjusted well to chilton a completely different more competitive environment yet in her 20s like 20/21 she's just throwing it away basically. but I guess it can be realistic as people often change and not always for the better. also I guess bc she put so much into her internship it was devastating to her.

[@Books_Makeup]

Yeah. Rory had thin skin at the point she met Mitchum because she was protected from everything. I have run into a Mitchum type. It didn't bother me because there are people with all sorts of perceptions from different walks of life. The character didn't handle it well because she was spoiled. If a Kid is raised properly they wouldn't give up. Or they would take the criticism and consider another career path without taking it personally.

[@aj7058]

I think if this had happened to her even a year before she would have been fine. It was the whole dynamic with Logan and his family as well as being more exposed to the upper upper echelons of privilege that really knocked her off kilter. People say the revival proves Mitchum right but I think it speaks more to how deeply this period of her life affected her. She probably always had a lot of complicated feelings about her grandparents and her mom's decision to leave that life, as well as her own relationship (or lack thereof) with her dad and his extremely wealthy family that this all made her face. Add in the low-key stress of trying to pretend she wants to be casual with a guy who doesn't want to commit to her which can do a lot to someone's self esteem without the added framing of differences in class and experience between them. The show could have done a lot more with what they've set up and I get the impression that they maybe did try to. I don't know if it's the writing or her acting that make the potential fall flat, likely a bit of both.

[@mystery8895]

Yeah as the seasons went on she just got worse.. she became more depressed, less motivated, and was terrified about what life after college would look like for her.

[@lapris7380]

@@aj7058 yeah it is lowkey both but mainly the fact the original writer wasn’t the one who finished the writing and even admits that it ended horribly and not like how she wanted it to due to the new guidance. For all we know the og writer could have had Rory proving him wrong despite falling for a bit of time in store for us.

[@LackaDaisyUK]

Honestly, when I was doing my journalistic internship and on the second day there was a meeting to criticize stuff, I remembered this scene, and right away expressed my opinion in front of people with years of experiences

[@Kat-tq6tm]

How did it go when you did? I'd assume coworkers and such would make some nice comments or something. Idk. Or you got a job there.

[@erikamaya3596]

Where they annoyed, or was this scripted show correct?

[@daesgatling1345]

and everyone clapped

[@May-yt4bq]

''See the thing is, in the real world it's not always good enough to do just what's asked.'' gold!

[@kaledadam3955]

sure is

[@damsykl]

@@kaledadam3955no you have to stand out

[@mayelimendozachavez9019]

ok to be perfectly honest, rory was sheltered her whole life and it takes a lot of lows in life to develop grit and since she lacked a lot of those lows, she never learned how to bounce back when she got put down.

[@liamina3563]

You can be sheltered and still suffer a lot of lows to learn resilience. Rory wasn't only sheltered; she was privileged and constantly praised.

[@chimmyswiftie5252]

@@liamina3563 true and people rarely ever thought she did something wrong. When she broke up with Dean, who did the townspeople blame? Dean. There are many instances where she is babied😒

[@gabygaby5701]

Thats just millennial behavior!!! Insufferable.

[@danidkg4071]

I think she was also a bit burnt out at this point, after working so hard at chilton and doing Yale. Lots of people who go to schools like that end up having trouble with burn out later on in college. I go to a gymnasium, not exactly the same (as in, not a private school), but a lot of my classmates are taking a gap year bc they’re so burnt out

[@joanclayton5212]

Rory grew up in a rundown shed outside of an inn and was the daughter of a struggling teenage single mom who was a maid. So she had her share of problems.

[@roter13]

Based on "A year in the life" Mitchum was right. Rory doesn't have it

[@chitsb]

Yup. I think academics would have suited her a lot better.

[@MsSopla]

She would save a lot of time if she listened to him or at least really think about it.

[@shutthefrontdoor733]

It’s funny you say this. My daughter and I were saying how we hated how she ended up in the last one. She had so much drive and potential in the show, and then years later they make her into a train wreck that sleeps around 😳. Not a great way to inspire young girls

[@MsSopla]

@@shutthefrontdoor733 yeah that is absolutly right! I grew up at this show and always wanted to be like rory but now I am glad that I am not.

[@Ella-fv4hm]

@@shutthefrontdoor733 and that was the magical part of the revival. Sure it was trash, but in a way it was amazing. It removed that fake fantasy filter of what stars hallow and Rory and lorelai and her friends were like.

[@Robert-hz9bj]

I can't believe THIS is what broke her. How many great writers and journalists were called talent-less hacks by their critics and enemies? A critic once called Tolkien's work ''juvenile trash.'' When the ''Great Gatsby'' was published, one newspaper review stated they were 'quite convinced after reading The Great Gatsby that Mr. Fitzgerald is not one of the great American writers of today.' How thin-skinned do you have to be to have a breakdown when one random jerk tells you they don't think you're very talented?

[@joaquinescotoaleman4320]

Sir, you have a point, but Mr Fitzgerald drown himself in alcohol for years and was more old, mature and worldly than little pretty A plus student Rory. He did not surrender but had awful mechanism of dealing with pain and criticism.

[@sockpuppet1]

She was young, many young people would brake of their role model told them this.

[@lexi219]

@@sockpuppet1 Then they're too thin-skinned to become journalists, just like Rory was. It's a competitive and cutthroat industry, which she knew before taking this gig. Sucks, but there are shitty parts of any job you take. If you can't handle if someone dies as you're trying to save them, you don't become a surgeon. If you can't handle people that you know and care about relapsing on drugs, you don't become a rehab counselor. If you can't handle a little criticism, becoming a journalist is a genuinely ridiculous path to take.

[@rebecky5ever]

I honestly think she should have taken a role as an assistant or tsken an educator role. She had the drive to organize and help people get their shit together

[@Robert-hz9bj]

@@rebecky5ever Honestly, she might have been fine if her goal was just to be an author, as opposed to a journalist. A journalist has got to have chutzpah, especially these days. So many people are openly hostile to the press in this era, with death threats and even open violence being quite common. Someone who folds to a person being slightly mean to them this quickly wouldn't last two hours on an actual reporter assignment.

[@ivoryvignettes]

Imagine dropping out of yale, you didn't have to get a loan for, just because you got honest feedback about your passiveness in a bold job. Lol

[@birdiewolf3497]

I'm soo heated about this. She really did all that over nothing. It really didn't even need to be the end of her journalism career if she thought he was right. She could have either improved herself or found a career that worked better for her. Being a reporter is just a small part of journalism. There is so much more to do. But no, him (very nicely, I might add) telling her that what she is doing is not enough was just so damaging. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@TheStepmonkey]

Exactly, Rory is so stupid

[@chimmyswiftie5252]

Just goes to show how entitled Rory is. Going to Yale in itself is a big opportunity that many people that were rejected from Yale want to experience. But, we see Rory take it for granted, smh😒

[@lauriecarson6483]

Did Rory really drop out of Yale. I mean she took time off then worked her ass off to graduate on time. So did she drop out of Yale completely.

[@nrl8532]

@@chimmyswiftie5252 cos I guess even though she had a well working class life, she always had this rich supporting background which I mean is one of the reasons. I mean I would drop out of Yale and party on my rich grandparents money if I had the chance to

[@fables4564]

Rory was never really “challenged”. Everyone around her was like “your a smart girl!” She never really had to really “struggle” in life when it came to a goal. It’s no surprise that when life gave her a huge shove ... she crumbled.

[@Kat-tq6tm]

This wasn't even a huge shove. If she were the same person she would have asked what she could have done and changed what she was doing at her job. She would have tried harder.

[@ValeriePallaoro]

Yeah but if she excells with in her group, then of course, the accolades are hers. I can't believe you have never fallen in a heap when you've been treated badly by a bully. Give her some slack for feeling out of sorts. And young. And lacking experience. And forgive her for being human and out of her depth.

[@Books_Makeup]

@@Kat-tq6tm Exactly, she obviously had yet to have any real world work experience. That type of stuff happens everyday lol. I think that's what bothers people about Rory. She's so coddled.

[@jessbattista9400]

I can relate to this scene all too well. I was a journalism major in college, and I was very similar to Rory, especially the 'I always have done what people expect of me'. It was until I had my first internship at a tv station I had one of the reporters look at my work. She was honest and told me my work wasn't good, I had no personality in my story, and it was brutal to hear. It almost broke me. But I learned a valuable lesson that day. You can choose what to do with that information, and the power is in your hands. I wanted to prove her wrong and show myself I could create a fantastic story; I started doing stories all the time during my free time, and the last story I did, I showed her, and she told me it was great! Feedback hurts, and in journalism, they do not care about your feelings. Rory had a choice to rise above this and prove him wrong, but instead, she fell apart and gave up, and to me, that is her biggest downfall. She couldn't take criticism, and if you can't take criticism, well, your not going to go far in an industry like this. Mitchum was right.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree he wanted her to pick herself up and prove him wrong

[@marv9296]

I just don`t get why everyone was mad at Logan, like he was the bad influence here. It`s obvious that stealing the boat was her idea.

[@kykydespeignes8882]

M Vuk that proves he is willing to do everything to makes her happy even commit a félony. That s bad but still proves How deep he feel about her. Just like lorelai manipulate luke everytime for doing things her way

[@lauriecarson6483]

He could have talked her out of it instead of going along with it.

[@lauriecarson6483]

@@kykydespeignes8882 sorry i dont agree

[@marv9296]

@@lauriecarson6483 He is not her nanny, but a boyfriend. It was obvious he thought it was wrong, but she was determined to do it and he couldn’t let her do it alone, so he went with her. Also, they are young, being reckless once in a while is not a crime (unless it is 😆). It just seems so unfair that he gets to be blamed for something that was her idea, her decision. Lorelai acts like her daughter is infallible and whatever bad she does, she doesn’t hold her responsible, but blames other people.

[@Hi-vr3kd]

@@marv9296 THANK YOU! everyone is blaming logan and mitchum for driving to her to this point, but mitchum gave her criticism as an employer and logan just went along with HER bad decision

[@eliza9011]

"I've done what was asked of me" reminds me of in highschool she hadn't thought of doing charities, clubs or anything extra to get into Harvard because she wasn't told too

[@Kashish4Eijaz]

I'm a year late but I never ever understood how she or lorelai for that matter thought she'd get into Harvard without any extra curriculum activities etc. Surely they knew she wouldn't be the only one with great grades applying so would need something to make her stand out from the rest? 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@jclyntoledo]

​​@@Kashish4EijazIn Chilton I thought she was in student government and debate? And wasn't she also part of their newspaper grp?

[@Kashish4Eijaz]

@@jclyntoledo yes but so were her peers. She needed more than that tbh

[@leadelbois8151]

Also first summer in yale, Paris did an intership and so did doyle. Rory went to Europe with her grandmother. Again, she did nothing to stand out and places her lovelife before with dean instead of her ambitions.

[@Jupitsme]

@@Kashish4Eijazbecause lorelai didn’t knew a thing about college/ivy league universities they only thought good grades were good enough

[@carmenescobar9045]

This reminds me of my first days as a journalist. Sitting down with people that I admire, asking for feedback and facing horrible truth. That scene is really accurate.

[@maurice8180]

but you stuck with it?

[@georgepigstan1018]

​@@maurice8180since they say first day, im guessing so

[@laurenlong]

While I agree that there’s a big difference in Rory’s personality when she was at Chilton and now at the internship, I also understand and connect with her in this moment. Logan was right when he said she was sheltered and timid because she was, but she grew out of that more and more as she found her voice and developed her own identity and didn’t stay in the one the townspeople of Stars Hollow foisted upon her. I say this because I used to be the exact same way. In high school I was always shy, more of an introvert than an extrovert, and liked reading and doing well in school more than I cared about parties or other large social gatherings. That changed when I got to university, for the first time I was finding out who I was without having to contend with the expectations and the opinions of others. Like Rory I grew as a person and found my own voice, and also watched my dreams of being a writer shatter after I took a particular writing class, where I was told my book wasn’t good enough, my characters were either too flat and boring, unbelievable or too realistic. Granted I didn’t steal a yacht and get arrested (there are no yachts where I’m from, I live in a small city in Northern British Columbia, Canada) but I did come home that summer with a broken heart and a portfolio I wanted to pitch into the fire and douse with gasoline. My point is, when someone tells us we don’t have what it takes, we have one of two reactions: we either use it as fuel to do better, or we break down and give up. Rory and I have both done those things, and it doesn’t make us bad people, it makes us flawed human beings, but humans nonetheless. There is no such thing as a perfect or truly good human being, we all have our moments of being self-centred and entitled and we all have good and bad parts of ourselves. That book I mentioned earlier? I just finished my first draft last night.

[@silviaov633]

How is your book going? I'm glad you gave it a chance. Thank you for sharing your experience, I completely agree with you and I know how you feel. I had a similar experience to Rory with a former boss. I basically told her "agree to disagree" and waited to cry outside her office so she wouldn't know how much she could hurt me. I had other jobs after that were my bosses were amazing and valued me so I thought I was over it but years later I was having a hard time in another job and I remembered that experience again and again instead of all the other great ones after that.

[@laurenlong]

@@silviaov633 Hi Silvia! Thanks for your comment! I actually stepped away from the book for awhile, I was too emotionally attached to it for awhile there to do any objective and constructive editing but I am ready to dive into it again. I’ve started writing my second novel that is not related to my first book, if anything it’s more emotional and much darker. Thanks for not throwing flames on my comment. I’m so sorry you’ve had experiences with bosses who have said things that have made you cry and have overshadowed the good experiences with employees who really appreciated and valued you not just as an employee but a person as well. I’ve had similar experiences, pre Covid I worked as a server at a bar and a bistro before that. In both places I had people be nasty to me but I also had people who were kind. I know it’s easier said than done but we have to focus on the people who are good to us and treat us well at work and use that as fuel to rise above any pettiness those who are not so kind show us

[@imiande5417]

This was really inspiring, right now I just wrapped up my third semester in university and I’ve changed my major three times and am now in Strategic Communications. I spent most of my Highschool years dreaming of being an animator but after two disappointing classes under the art department, I was not impressed in the way the department ran things and frankly the mediocrity of the professors I dealt with there. I like history and am a history minor, and currently working as a receptionist and Teachers assistant for that department. But I still feel like I have no real direction, I am an artist but I don’t feel passion for it like I did, I was writing a book for three years but stopped, I speak 5 languages and love people, desperately want to travel, despite all that if you were to ask me what job I saw myself in three years I have no clue, and all I really want is direction.

[@laurenlong]

@@imiande5417 thank you! It’s always disheartening when a department is not running things the way they could be. I’ve been where you are, I didn’t have any sense of direction for awhile, ironically enough it wasn’t until the pandemic started that I found myself and my sense of direction once again. Keep your head up, everything will fall into place and you will find your way again! 😊🤗

[@kennethjoneification]

thank you, I was looking for a comment like this. While it is true that Rory is spoilt, sheltered and has been constantly praised throughout her life, that doesn't mean we can't empathise with her. It goes without saying that she is a product of her upbringing, and I guess she's never experienced any real criticism up until this point, but I still really feel her heartbreak in this moment. I'm not from a privileged background, but I was still very fragile at her age. What Mitchum said would have completely crushed me too. Also, just because she reacted like this, doesn't mean she won't find the strength and determination she needs some time in the future.

[@KatnissEverdeen-yb8hv]

When I was 18 my college chemistry teacher told me maybe STEM was not the right fit for me. I was failing and struggling with the class. Fast forward, i graduated with my BS and finished my MS. I didn’t let him define my career or goals. It was hard but I found I was driven and smart enough to accomplish it. I think Rory giving up that easily proves Mitch was actually right. She never truly proved herself she had what it took to be a journalist.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree you put in the hard work and proved him wrong, it’s what Rory should have done

[@nightwolf48nm]

This scene really helped me push myself and speak up more in the work place.

[@carlyfallon6304]

0:40 he was giving her a chance to stand up to him. She should have been like "You're wrong about this, I've worked my ass off to be here. This was to get me in the room and now I here I'm not bloody leaving." But she didn't.

[@aditi1729]

I thought so too.

[@bryand6811]

Funny how she can't handle a bit of criticism when she herself wrote a harsh review on the ballet dancer

[@spencerallegra]

Rory’s the perfect example of ‘Can dish it but can’t take it’ not just here or with her career but with literally everything in her life. I love gg but let’s be honest rory is one of the worst characters of all time🙈😅

[@sevillejabeen6632]

Mitchum was so right. Sometimes I think Yale, Princeton and Harvard only accepted her because she's a legacy (Richard was from Yale, Straub was from Princeton) and the spin off proved it. She's so entitled and she's so used to things falling in her lap. And he saw that. She really didn't have it.

[@Ambereigh]

What? She went to chilton who did play at all about education or homework. She had amazing grades. It makes no sense that you think she didn’t get into Yale on her own merit

[@Ambereigh]

@@auspicious93 Yeah it doesn’t make sense when people say things like that. When she literally did the work. No one did the school work for her or the after school activities for her. She was even a great intern which was the one opportunity that was handed to her.

[@Whitneypyant]

@@auspicious93 there are thousands of kids who has same the sat and act scores who didn’t get into those schools. Are you saying they aren’t talanted as Rory? You and I both know Rory had a legacy at both Yale and Princeton. These schools often take legacy into account. Let’s not forget that Richard was the one who setup that meeting.

[@Themsbeatlesrock]

I agree. Her own grandfather didn’t think she could get into Harvard on her own and was adamant to get her into Yale, where he could secure her a seat. The reason he knew this is because he knows more about how the world works unlike Lorelei and Rory. Lorelei thought she could get a loan at the bank by telling them how much of a good person people think she is like wtf how out of touch is that. Rory was always more focused on her love life and making drama ( I blame her mom) than passionate about anything career related. even at the newspaper, she only stepped up when she had no other choice. She wasn’t like paris, who was always trying to achieve something.

[@Crystalbomb321]

She didn’t have any extra curriculars or leadership roles/ a gazillion awards. So many ppl with perfect scores and amazing SAT scores, a million extra curriculars don’t get in. It’s a show so she got in, but irl she wouldn’t have.

[@happysleepygrumpy]

This just shows that the writers meant to screw her life eventually...I loved how close it is to reality...people who do well academically need not necessarily do well in life...this is such an amazing example

[@marv9296]

I must say I agree with him, she did seem like an efficient PA. I think he did her a favour really. She just didn`t deal with his honest opinion in the right way. She should either prove him wrong, or take it as an honest advice from someone who`s been an expert in journalism and think about her other options, writing maybe. But no, she had to pitty herself, drop the college and what not.

[@birdiewolf3497]

Yeah Rory was mad sheltered. Honestly, I'm disgusted by her behavior surrounding this incident.

[@Ravenstar2296]

ironically, this was what Jess did when she invited him to her grandmother's (arrived in a bad mood + traffic). And she even asks Logan to go off somewhere with her as Jess once did.

[@rachelmanavi4819]

Such an interesting point! Do you think that was on purpose? I wouldn’t be surprised if it was bc there is a good amount of clever stuff in this show

[@trex0004]

OHHHHH

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

And where as Rory turned Jess turned on the offer, Logan instantly says yes, let's go, anything to help keep growing as a person, I love you!! Funny when you put two and two together, isn't it??

[@Hi-vr3kd]

@@callmeswivelhips8229 logan's not her baby sitter lmao rory is responsible for her own mistakes, not her boyfriend that she'd been with for like 3 months at that point.

[@xpatriciadanielle]

When Logan asked her to jump with the brigade she told him news reporters only observe. He was the one to tell her to live for ones in her life. Enough people are alive but dead at the same time. After that she jumped. She didn't do it with the thrill inside herself, someone had to hold her hand and tell it. When she works at the internship, father Huntzberger whent inside a room with a collegue and she hesitated to go inside with them while she followed him around before that. She hesitated and missed a opportunity. At the family dinner at Logan's house, like she said herself, she didn't even try to stand up for herself. With or without Logan. The reaction in this video is understandably shocking to her. But in this moment, or even after she doesn't even stand up for herself to tell him she stands for what her hearth desires. Maybe these are situations you deal better as an experienced grown up or maybe it's her character. But Mitchum is right about her at this moment. And even though it knocked her off her feet for the moment, if it's really something you want or feel you go after it. You go for it. She didn't. Which said enough. And that might be what the mother meant at the dinner: she doesn't have what it takes to be a Huntzberger. She doesn't truly stand for who she is.

[@pink-uv3th]

How doe she just quit after ONE man tells her she can't do something?? If women quit every time men try to tell us we are not good enough we'd never achieve anything!! I hated Rory this episode...

[@prayforjonas]

In the adult world, this guy was extremely gracious with her. He didn't want to hurt her, he was just matter of fact. She shouldn't have been as crushed as she was.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree she was 19 not 13, it was constructive criticism

[@bellota_miau]

He did wanted to hurt her. Logan's family didn't want her

[@mininimi9203]

I understand why people would say that Rory acted immature and wasn't open to real criticism But on the other hand I empathize with her I just think that to this point she thought she could achieve everything with hard work (which she did) and when Mitchum told her that she doesn't have the necessary personality traits to be a good journalist (at least that's how I took it), it was a really hard thing to hear because it was basically out of her control

[@aditi1729]

I’m empathetic too. I would’ve been crushed too if this were to happen to me.

[@Ghiblidemon]

I don't see how it's out of her control - if she really wanted it she could have developed those personality traits. Shock in the moment is totally valid but her actions after...just no.

[@katarinajonjev7050]

In my opinion she did act immature but it's not her fault she wasn't used to criticism because her whole life everyone was always telling her that she was perfect and no one has ever told her otherwise, Mitchum was the first person ever to tell her that she is not flawless and instead of working hard to prove him wrong like Chilton Rory would've done she decided to steal a boat and quit Yale. That is immature, I understand that she lost her confidence and was reconsidering her whole life at that point but stealing a boat, really, I mean I get the anger but commiting a felony instead of trying to get over it and motivate yourself to work harder is not how you should handle that situation.

[@nairlopez5177]

I agree it must be hard to hear that but in reality that's how the real world is it can crush you in a minute and you need to be ready to deal with it not just back down when something it's out of your control, Paris didn't have supportive ppl in her life and didn't get accepted in her dream school and yeah she had a meltdown but she went to yale she worked her ass off and made it like Mitchum told Richard if she has what's necessary she'll bounce back but she didn't do that she proved him right

[@yespls6260]

Yeah, I don't understand why everyone is flaming Rory after this.. I would've been crushed too. Yeah, she probably should've bounced back, but when someone you admire implies that you *inherently* "don't have it" to do what you've been wanting to do your whole life that is pretty crushing. Maybe she wasn't made to be a high-level journalist, but she would've figured that out. There's a way to give feedback.. he literally could've just told her to "try pitching stories and asserting yourself" instead of expecting her to read his mind. Society trains women to be passive (especially if you're in an intern role) and not "step on toes", then old men like to tell young professional women that they vaguely "don't have it" and basically imply that all they can amount to is an "assistant".. and people are shocked when young women are rattled by that. Yes, it was definitely a lesson that you can't just expect positive feedback 24/7 and that not everyone gets to do what they've always dreamed of doing. But Mitchum *was* an ass.

[@rachelposton4221]

He was right, I probably would of said it differently. For example if you apply yourself more and really want this then you could get the skills to be a journalist. His criticism shouldn't have been taken so hard, if she really wanted it and believed in herself, she would have been better. As for the revival, it sucked.

[@laurasadie5558]

Rachel Poston I i I u and I get along like thunder and the rain u u u make me feel everything even when it’s pain congratulations celebration cos my heart is the hardest to break, break up to make up just to wake up with mascara all over my face!

[@vitamindealer7915]

The revival didn’t happen

[@sneena9]

he was right about her

[@gracelovell3969]

SN N Right about what??

[@sneena9]

shes not got that to make it big.

[@gracelovell3969]

SN N Not true at all in my opinion she was an intern when your an intern you don't know whether or not you should speak or do things without permission she has the drive to write stories did you see how she worked on the life and death brigade ( I'm not good at spelling I don't know if that is correct spelling) story?? She has what it takes to do this she shouldn't let mitchem tell what she can and can't do I believe in Rory so that's my opinion btw

[@aldanaabigail7452]

the revival shows that mitchum was right about her, she's a terrible journalist

[@gracelovell3969]

SN N now I haven't seen the revival yet so I don't know the whole story or whatever but college Rory pushed for stories

[@bellota_miau]

Everyone been like she was so weak, she crumbled and yes but also, she recovered from this. She had a moment of doubting herself but she didn't stayed there. She went back to Yale, graduated at the same time than the rest of her class, she was editor at the Yale Daily News and got an intership again. We all have moments where we fall, but if you get back up, then you become stronger.

[@Skyebright1]

True but the revival has her falling apart again

[@dorota9202]

Many episodes before when Rory told that she wants to be a "journalist at the field" travelling the world and writing like Christiane Amanpour, I was immediately like - no Rory, you are not this type of person how can you not see it ? And I was right

[@ValeriePallaoro]

Great you were agreeing with a bunch of script writers .. sure, insightful *facepalm*

[@chantalvandenheuvel9777]

Exactly my thoughts when I first saw that 😂 A journalist at the field? Oh honey... no... 😆🤣

[@rachel307]

i'm pretty sure that it was lorelai's dream and unconsciously she transmitted this dream to Rory. I mean, Lorelai is an extrovert person, she got this and she's REALLY smart. Rory is smart too, but in a different way. Rory is more introvert, she could be a teacher or a writer. But definitily not an field journalist.

[@moviegal6000]

It's interesting because at the time I really disliked him for doing this but now that it's been 15 years since the episode aired, I totally see what Mitchum did here. She asked for a review and it wasn't someone gushing over her and instead of doing some self reflection and asking what she could do to change that, she throws, essentially, a tantrum. I mean how far in life did she think she was going to get if one person's/job's bad review throws you into a spiral.

[@samarasantana9411]

Remember when Jess said he thought journalism was too hard for Rory ??? It seems that he was right ... But I feel bad for her in the same way, she was doing her best ... Too bad she had to take this in such a personal way and give up everything just for that reason

[@Trackmorelimittime]

"I always done what's asked of me!". What a great response from a future JOURNALIST. In North Korea.

[@yumyumoryuck8675]

To People Watching This Video: If anyone ever does to you what Logan's dad did to Rory - omg ignore them! Laugh at them! If you really "don't have what it takes" to do something you want to do - you know what? You figure out what you're lacking and you take the time to learn and practice those skills. Invest in yourself and keep getting better! Also consider the other person's motivations. Why did he really say that to her? To tear her down? Just to be mean to her? Or maybe he honestly thought he was doing her a favor based on his own messed up beliefs.

[@riboha1331]

YumYumOrYuck WORD!!!

[@hollyg7346]

She just gave up and proved him right

[@iamsultana]

In a way, you're right - Mitchell's motives might have not been the purest; for all we know, he wanted her to be less ambitious and thus a more suitable wife material for Logan. But interestingly, even though Rory goes and tries to become a reporter anyway, she finds herself broke at the age of 32. So I think sometimes it is healthy to get some self-awareness and realize where your true talents can shine. I always thought that journalism is an odd choice for someone like Rory. However, I always thought she would make an excellent headmaster at Chilton. Maybe one day!

[@mariabella19]

@@iamsultana I like the fact that she gave us this whole story. All of Gilmore Girls, from the first episode of her first day at Chilton, to Dean, to Jess ect. she wrote all of that. And we can tell it's popular because we are her audience! Here we are discussing her writing!

[@iamsultana]

@@mariabella19 Yes, true. I guess that's why the story had to end with Rory's pregnancy - that's when she started writing Gilmore Girls, the story that we got to watch.

[@katy6729]

She was clearly expecting him to tell her she was like the best he’d ever seen and had amazing potential

[@malikabernard966]

To be fair in the real world it’s understandable why Rory was so crushed. She wanted to do journalism forever and a journalist that she admired told her that he just didn’t think she had what it takes to make it in her dream profession. I think anyone who’s ever gone after something they are truly passionate about has a moment when they feel like they’re not good enough and this was Rory’s moment. Rory was a college kid at her first internship and she got her first real taste of professional criticism so I get why she was so discouraged. However, I do admit her actions following Mitchum‘s harsh words were pretty irrational. Stealing a boat and dropping out of Yale based on just a piece of criticism is a huge jump from being a dedicated student and intern. But I guess the writers wanted to add more dramatic elements to make the story arc more interesting. Even if a lot of us hated this arc for Rory it definitely was memorable.

[@chelseabaker1994]

I know, I don’t like how Rory became at the end of season 4.

[@sarahnour5561]

I would have liked this arc if Rory had grown and learned anything from it, but she didn't. Sure, in the revival she's still plugging away at being a journalist, but she sucks at it. Falling asleep while conducting an interview, sleeping with a guy in a Wookie costume when she was supposed to be doing her job... somehow I can't imagine Christiane Amanpour doing those things.

[@nancypineda3973]

Rewaching this scene again and Mitchum was really professional, he says is only a gut feeling, that it could be wrong, he doesnt set anything in stone, he also says she is competent, smart, he never degrade her Also he was right, she never digs for a story, you can see that in the revival, she only got to the books, no the streets

[@Skyebright1]

Yeah with the he could be wrong, he wanted her to prove him wrong

[@addictedtojesusandcoffee]

When I first watched this scene, I was offended as well. But when I rewatched it I truly realized what he said. Not a “you’re a failure” but “you follow the book too much, you can’t do that as a journalist”

[@elivalero7939]

The thing is, he made it sound as something that could not be helped, as if it were definite. And the worst is that Rory believed him

[@TheRealMTS251]

Put aside the year in the life... Try this maybe Michem was trying to make her less ambitious about journalism to try and make her the perfect wife for Logan (based on what his mum and grandpa said at thr dinner). If she is no longer wanting to be a journalist then she becomes right for Logan per the family standards. Just another view point of why this scene happened

[@cleoeglinton1304]

I agree..

[@Cpre1111]

I agree. She's better than Logan. Better than what he deserves & that family knows it. They wanted Rory to give up her identity for Logan. They know her being a Gilmore makes her a great match, but it's her pursuit of a career that means her #1 priority won't always be to Logan or that family of his.

[@oooh19]

Yea they are snobs and why would a young woman in college not be after a career? Doesn't mean she can't be a wonderful mom and wife too. It's old fashioned and close minded to think otherwise. They didn't really know her well enough to judge her

[@TheStepmonkey]

Nah, i don’t think that’s the case. Logan’s family never really liked Rory

[@shrishtisinha6692]

I don't think so. It honestly looked and sounded like he was giving her honest feedback about a tough job field that she needed to buck up for or get out. And her choosing to get out....kind of proved his point. If you can't take someone saying something bad about you (and so very gently lol) then how much did you really want it? She romanticized the job, i don't think she wanted it. And her fickleness and inability to decide and commit, lost her Logan in the end too.

[@faye_2]

"In the real world it's not always good enough to do just what's asked of you." I think Mitchum described perfectly her character arch from young Rory to adult Rory in A Year in a Live.

[@Skyebright1]

Yeah that she was ok when she needed to be great, especially when journalism is changing in the modern world

[@shrishtisinha6692]

He's not even being mean about it, I think he was just right.

[@kaledadam3955]

Mitchum is a newspaper mogul and he knows what works in journalism. He gave Rory a reality check, that her family never did, and she took it horribly. Before this everything was easy for her with her studies and the school newspaper. She couldn't handle the criticism when she stepped out of her comfort zone and entered the real world.

[@fynnfish]

But to be honest, where is the difference between the Yale Daily News and a normal newspaper? She was writing for that paper all the time. The topics are probably different, the real world is way bigger, but the kind of work is pretty similar. Not every article in the New York times is from an active war zone. There are all kinds of articles, from weather to finance, sports, politics... all of these sections need writers. I can't really see somebody doing GREAT at one newspaper failing at every single other newspaper in the whole country. And she DID manage to write one piece for the New York Times in the revival, so I absolutely don't understand what she was doing all the years between the season 7 finale and that one gig lol ( I personally believe that the storyline of the revival was meant to be the original storyline of Amy's season 7, which time wise makes a lot more sense for many characters, but whatever...)

[@Skyebright1]

@@fynnfishyeah I think her original idea was that Rory would get pregnant in her 20s and sort of copy her mum while becoming a great journalist. The revival in her thirties has no work being done and her being pregnant in her 30s which is a different thing

[@jsnrvst]

A couple things to remember here: 1) "You don't got it." is just not useful feedback. Mitchum's could have made the same points and framed it as "what you do well, what you should improve". "You don't got it" seems so definitive. Nothing you can do, you're done, give up and reorient yourself as an assistant. 2) Rory is still very young. Maybe 19 or 20 years old? We have to take that into account. Our brains aren't even fully formed yet at that age. Yes, Rory made some questionable choices during the series, and hasn't always gotten the karma she deserved, but she's young. Young people make mistakes. Young people lack maturity. A good boss and mentor should recognize that. Rory went into this meeting expecting what she had received from every teacher and authority figure since she was little: praise for quality work and advice on how she can do better. Her boss and her boyfriend's father, who had always seemed to like her until then, someone who's highly respected in her chosen field, told her to basically give up. Don't dream, it's over. Of course she's going to feel crushed. No experience in her past has prepared her for this.

[@meriennedimen]

Agree on this I mean Mitchum is on point but he should have to use the right way to give feedback to Rory. He at least tell her that “Your performance at work is not good but it can be improved.” Giving feedback must be honest feedback but at the same time motivate that person to improve. Excuse for my grammar I am not good at this. 😬

[@user-hr2ij6sl2r]

To be honest, Mitchum could have delivered the feedback better, something like "Rory, you need to really go at it to make it! The way he said it would have crushed most people.

[@fynnfish]

Or Logan could have. I don't really remember too many of his scenes so I guess he said something similar, but he didn't really get that she was completely crushed by what his father said and didn't do much when she dropped out of school.

[@lexi219]

Nah, if this gentle and straightforward feedback crushed you, then you have no business in a field like journalism. If you can't handle criticism, you really shouldn't be in cutthroat industries that require fortitude. Rory clearly didn't have it.

[@fynnfish]

@@lexi219 sorry for the novel but her is what I'm thinking: I would agree with you if a critique from a random internship crushed her (I agree that the feedback was gentle, professional and in line!). But it wasn't really random feedback, it was a HUGE deal because it was Mitchum. Remember, Rory once wrote a really mean piece on a dancer and got HELL for that from her, but Rory's take away was not to cushion her subject's feelings but to keep on writing savage articles (if her article's tone was justified in the first place is debatable, but we as a watcher are supposed to understand from this episode that Rory makes up her mind to not be less than a savage journalist). And she was an awesome journalist and editor at the Yale paper BEFORE and AFTER the incident with Mitchum. The difference is that it was her BF's father and a media mogul. She respected his opinion too much and lost all confidence. I don't believe that that incident really attests to Rory's abilities, only to her nerves in that one phase of her time. She only overreacted and needed somebody to snap her out of it. We all sometimes struggle with a task more than we need to. But all in all the whole of season 6 AND 7 tried to show that she overcame her internal struggle. She didn't struggle anymore in these two seasons. And she did really really well at the SAME paper afterwards (she applied enough pressure on her boss to get a part time job without there being a job opening) AND Mitchum claimed her success later, which was totally out of line of him. My take away at least is that season 6 and season 7 at no point show that she is not made for journalism (even though my opinion is, that her real passion is editing). I think that most of these kinds of criticisms came up with the revival. (Which I consider garbage and not an indicator that the final season show any hint of Rory's downfall later in life)

[@firsttimeisawjupiter1031]

People in the real world don't sugar coated. He is not her dad 😂

[@connorbabylon5957]

I hated Mitchum so much for this scene. But after rewatching it again and realized how Mitchum WAS feeding Rory. He told her her flaws, her skills, and her way to improvement. Now “you don’t got it” isn’t an encouraging statement in anyway, in fact, it destroyed people’s confidence. BUT, if she had it in her, she would’ve bounced back like he said. He didn’t say that to crush her down but that’s the way a businessman talks, unfortunately for Rory she was praised too much by everyone around her she did not know how to take a criticism. Her actions after this weren’t exactly reasonable but understandable. But she could’ve changed in her later 20s. A year in the life however ended her character development.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree he wanted her to bounce back and prove him wrong

[@EduardoLopez-tged]

This is how I know I got old, Back in the day, i thought he was being an ass. As a Director now, I totally get what he was getting at in telling her that she doesn't have that hunger. The only difference is I would give is not to just flatly say, "you don't got it". A good leader informs their people of their flaws, and helps guide them on how to correct them. More often then not, you'd be surprised how often people can surprise you once you couch them properly. The other end of it is, they realize this might not be the path they want to take, which is also good, as it frees them up to focus their strengths into other areas rather then pursue a career their not suited for (as we eventually find out is what happened to rory in the revival).

[@erikamaya3596]

On the other hand what makes you the know it all. No one is a natural every thing takes time and practice , to talk like this to someone who is just starting is just plain entitled and Unprofessional. Jordan had to practice, Bill Gates started coding from the age of 12. Nobody’s just naturally got it, ppl have to put in the time to get good at something

[@EduardoLopez-tged]

@@erikamaya3596 agreed which is why In my post I plainly state that a good leader works with their people to coach them. I personally handle professional development at my organization and lead a leadership institute for a non profit.

[@AnaAgC]

She did not have what one's need to make it. He was right. She is such a disappointment.

[@iamsultana]

She is not a disappointment just because she didn't succeed in this career. It only shows she hasn't found where her true talent lies. Hopefully in the next revival she will have more perspective on this. I'm expecting Rory to become a teacher and a writer. I also think she would make an excellent headmaster at Chilton one day.

[@iamsultana]

@@cibazyx4138 Speaking of real life, I think it happens often to women that an unexpected pregnancy brings an unexpected direction in life. If they never make another Gilmorr Girls, I'll choose to believe that Rorys mindset got completely changed after the baby came into her life. She matured, pulled herself together, stopped with the nonsensical relationships, wrote a book and went to work for Chilton.

[@lauriecarson6483]

She wasn't a disappointment at all i hate when people say that. So her life wasn't what you wanted to be. Is your life perfect do you have a perfect job. Are you successful. Alot can happen to someone's life after college.

[@HD.418]

What I don’t like about Rory here is her eagerness to get his feedback and yet be shocked when it was negative. Like yes the show depicted it that she was going well and was confident and this was supposed to be a twist and whatnot, but that’s just how it is sometimes. Sometimes you don’t get what you think you deserve even when you worked so hard for it. However there are some ppl you just can’t please, you can’t get a glowing compliment from every person you work for life is just to varied for that. What was really disappointing was Rory’s quitting attitude after this one negative comment, like yes Mitchum was quite big in journalism but he isn’t the only one in America who’s renowned in journalism it just made me want to scream.

[@oscarlover100]

There's a difference between negative feedback and saying you don't have what it takes.

[@HD.418]

@@oscarlover100 ppl with lesser wealth to their names and their situations have made more of both of those things, sometimes if you really want it you have to push thro🤷

[@Kikiricki11]

@@oscarlover100 He wasn't even being mean. He was strict and direct, but that is in no way too much or mean. This is someone who directly spoke his opinion after being asked for it and then even admitting that there's a chance his gut feeling could be wrong, but she just accepts it and mopes. She gives up and her feeling bad makes him look mean, but ultimately it was her responsibility to take his response, which she had sought out, and either prove him right or wrong. She proved him right.

[@sarahnour5561]

If one guy telling her (not unkindly) that she didn't have what it takes to be a journalist made her spiral into self-doubt, steal a yacht, and take time off from Yale... Rory should have spent her time off going to therapy. She should have done some soul-searching, tried to figure herself out, get to the root cause of why one critical comment made her go out and commit a felony. Instead her time off ended up not mattering, plot-wise or character-wise. She didn't learn anything. Such a waste.

[@rachelriserbato3082]

I have to say I was happy with Logan. Stealing the yacht was not his idea. And when Rory was being all mopey he tried to be nice and called her bullshit. He was a good boyfriend. I think he was the best. They both grew up with a silver spoon. Logan a little more but he still was forced into thing, and worked hard

[@lauriecarson6483]

Rory didnt grow up with a silver spoon in her mouth. She loved in a potting shed until she was 12. Her grandparents where rich not her

[@rachelriserbato3082]

@@lauriecarson6483 that’s because her mother didn’t want her to have that life. But her grandparents still payed for all of her schooling, she had a coming out. She got luxuries that normal people don’t get.

[@Kashish4Eijaz]

@rachelriserbato3082 I'm a year late, but you can't win with Laurie. In their eyes, lorelai and Rory are perfect and can never do anything wrong. 🤣

[@cyberbaby]

he wasn’t at all wrong here or rude, it was a professional opinion, but i still feel bad for rory. she was raised with everyone in her life praising her all the time and that’s the only thing she ever knew. it’s a type of reality shock that hurts so much because it’s who YOU ARE and you can’t change it that easily. so her reaction was extremely realistic under the circumstances

[@sarasarah3404]

I don't know why rory was so upset by this He gave her lots of compliments And high paying executive assistance pay into 100k a year

[@Wiamehekmi]

Executive assistants don't go to Yale

[@sarasarah3404]

@@Wiamehekmi they do. Don't minimize a career.

[@postal1342]

He gave her harsh but professional and honest criticism. Instead of Rory taking it to get better and grow, she threw a tantrum

[@bonnieparker1725]

I think people are being pretty harsh on Rory in this scene. Yes dropping out of college based on this was an overreaction, but also lets not forgetted that she was a very sheltered teenager up to this point. Doing what she was told to do / going 'above and beyond' in the familiar environmnent of schoolwork is what had gotten her to a high ranked university and always earned her a lot of praise from the adults in her life. This is effectively her first experience in the working world, and the main issue is basically that she seemed a bit shy. And yes this is something she would need to work on if she wants to be a journalist, but it's also not a death sentence. I think there would have been a way to phrase this as 'these are things you didn't do as well and that you need to improve if you want to get into this business', as opposed to 'you don't have it', which makes it sound like there is something she innately lacks and can never hope to achieve. It's easy to say she should have been able to take it, but again, this is a teenager with very fragile self-esteem whose sense of self-worth has until this moment been very strictly defined by meeting the expectations of the people around her. I totally understand why this moment would have felt heartbreaking. Again, I do agree that she ultimately should have stayed in school and reevaluated the decision of dropping out (not to mention stealing a boat) but I also don't think it's fair to act like this is evidence of her being the worst.

[@RTYWLive.Forever]

Sometimes we think we know what we want to be when we grow up, but really it just shows what we are attracted to. She fell in love with the male equivalent of what she thought she wanted to be. She thought she wanted to be the brave, adventurous, and cultured woman she idolized as a child, but instead she turned out to be more suited as the wife of a brave, adventurous, and cultured man. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and it shouldn't be an insult if you're humble.

[@rachel307]

i'm pretty sure that it was lorelai's dream and unconsciously she transmitted this dream to Rory. I mean, Lorelai is an extrovert person, she got this and she's REALLY smart. Rory is smart too, but in a different way. Rory is more introvert, she could be a teacher or a writer. But definitily not an field journalist.

[@RTYWLive.Forever]

@@rachel307 that’s a good point too

[@davidnewhouse9403]

He’s so right. Her reaction to it only proves it. If she wanted to be reporter she would have gone out of her way to prove him wrong.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree if she wants the career fight for it

[@davidnewhouse9403]

@@Skyebright1 Especially something like being a reporter. That’s not a “quiet desk job” she just isn’t suited for that.

[@allys744]

Mitch was super nice to Rory here. He was just being honest. If she falls apart at the slightest amount of criticism, then she’s not cut out for a nail biting job like journalism. Ive been in her place before (actually worse, because the person giving me the critique wasn’t being professional or constructive, just downright insulting of my intelligence). But I went on to continue my work because I knew that person was dead wrong about me. If anyone did what she just did (quit after one person’s critique), they would be in different situations in their careers, and not in a good way.

[@wil3117]

This whole show is us wanting to say shut up rory. He did it for us

[@carolinejoung]

I remember this episode being so much scarier in high school. But rewatching this as an adult, Mitchum isnt nearly the villain they paint him out to be in this show. He was blunt, kinda an ass, sure. But strictly from a professional aspect, his feedback was solid, he was a decent boss, a pretty nice mentor to be honest, he even told her his gut has been wrong before. I think this episode shows how much rory has changed since coming to yale and mixing with her grandparents crowd. Chilton rory would have fought tooth and nail for that position, she knew who she was and what she was capable of. So he calls you assistant material? Then he’s wrong, and you tell him so and prove it. Im pretty sure he would have been fine with being wrong anyhow. Yale rory wasnt…soft, but she was more entitled to this idea that she was perfect. She goes to yale, she the towns angel, the papers golden girl, and anyone who told her differently could only ever be wrong and evil. I think she just couldnt handle the dissonance between the two, leading her to steal a fucking yacht and then just spiraling afterwards.

[@rainy1915]

Okay, so I feel bad for Rory in this because she's right when she mentioned Harry is not an intern and I feel she was trying to be considerate during the conversation. She felt it wasn't her place to say anything because she's an intern and didn't think of herself to say anything because of workplace boundaries. You're an intern and you're new, would you be rude for jumping into the conversation? A girl still in college? What do you know? Is it best to sit back and listen before formulating a proper response or rebuttal before jumping into the conversation? All those things were probably swimming in Rory's head. If Rory said something like this, "I'm new and I'm learning how the ropes are like here. I didn't feel it was my place to jump into the conversation because I'm an intern and I didn't want to feel rude,"

[@oksanawynnik1836]

It was ridiculous that he told her this, but how she reacted made it true. If one man can tell you you don't have it, and you don't have the drive to prove him wrong, then he was ultimately right. She had the best education she could have gotten and didn't make it in the business because she didn't have the drive. Hell, she rejected him at first for the internship. He was right, even if it wasn't for her potential, she should have taken what life had given her. Unfortunately it's the truth

[@FireMinstrel]

Nancy Wheeler would’ve said “Challenge accepted!”

[@Skyebright1]

Yeah that’s what Mitchum wanted her to do

[@mategradac199]

the reason rory can’t take criticism is because everyone in her family treats her like she’s a god, and they always defend her actions no matter what

[@choosehappy9224]

I just graduated college and am about to go into the real world with my first job. This is making me nervous. 🤢

[@loralaig]

i love this scene, this scene is the first time rory sees how the actual world is. she was not looking for a feedback she wanted mitchum to give her compliments but i still feel sad about her breakdown. also lorelai was right about arguing rory. okay lorelai never went to college but she was able to see how to handle it.

[@danidkg4071]

i know how she feels, i also grew up as an only child and became kinda sensitive to criticism (i even had a similar conversation to this with my mom when we were discussing options for my uni major), but i can't believe that she let this unravel her entire plan to become a journalist. i can understand doubting yourself and being depressed for a little while bc you're insecure, but she can't let that stop her from pursuing her dreams. lots of people don't "have what it takes" when they start their studies, but they eventually become more fit for the job once they learn to adapt. maybe this shows how she made a huge life choice when she was way too young (she literally wanted to go to harvard when she was like 5), without being mature enough to understand what job and major is the best for her. ofc my situation is a bit different from hers (after struggling to get through high school and being held back i kinda became numb to failure lol), but she still could've turned things around. it's not like psychologists are born with the ability to be other people's emotional rock, they learn to become that through their career. i honestly think she could've still made it as a journalist if she just put herself out there and got out of her comfort zone for once. at least she's writing a book in the revival. oh, and i completely forgot that she stole a boat because of this like, girl??? what are you doing????? just go home and cry about it like the rest of us do

[@audreyandary5937]

I’ve watched 46 of these

[@tanukabanerjee1731]

A smart businessman knows that she isnt meant for the real deal . Academics r fine but practical life is different n rory doesnt have it

[@liliofthelamplight]

Nah maybe if youre "just studying" and soaking it up, but if you actually want to make your own career in academics i.e. get to phd level and above, especially at an ivy league college, you also have to be kinda tough and competitive I think; you definitely have to get yourself out there. I agree that Rory might not be that kind of person though - not if she can be so easily disencouraged - someone in the comments wrote that she would make a great teacher one day and I think that's true :)

[@nhihoang5434]

Rory didn't get this internship traditionally. She didn't apply, with proof of her work. I assume if she did, Mitchum wouldnt have hired her because his style is clearly not the same as hers. Even if he has his points, the way he says it to her is unprofessional and rude. He isn't a very good mentor. There is no constructive criticism on how she can get better. And she has been a student all her life. she has learnt to be the best student, who follow orders and not step out of line. it explains why because that's all she ever knew. every job require some practice, small steps to get good. Not every intern is a star. The seniors are there to help them get there. If you treat every intern like trash, they all would quit. Employees in company react better when given encouragement and positive criticism. I've heard someone like Mitchum telling me the same thing. I just feel good I dodged a bullet. No amount of money or job is good if you work with a horrible boss who refuse to teach you and then tell you you suck. also, Mitchum didn't get his success on his own, he has family money and power. He's a narcissistic ass who enjoys putting other people down.

[@zenmood-d3p]

well it was her only dream since chilton to become an ambitious journalist and the only thought she had. She studied hard more than anyone and worked her way into Yale. also at that age where u first step out into the real world, that kind of criticism from such a powerful man in the industry would have broken her. but I still don't understand why that would lead her to stealing a boat lol

[@Whitneypyant]

Rory been praised basically her life. She been praised by her mother, grandparents and all of Stars Hollow. Once Mitchum gave his feedback to her she didn’t know how to deal

[@da.j.9096]

I think Mitchum was wrong to believe that every great journalist needs to have an aggressive personality. A likeable and trustworthy approach can get to the bottom of a story just as well as a pushy person, maybe even better. But he's right that every journalist needs to be extremely resilient, and Rory is not. One round of negative feedback and she gave up. That is her real weakness here, not her soft-spoken personality but her lack of grit.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree

[@Gizo02]

Me watching this the first time as a kid - Mitchum Huntzberger was so mean ! Me watching this the second time as an adult - Mitchum was giving Rory honest feedback, and with her sheltered background with people often falling at her feet and her (helped by her working incredibly hard) usually getting whatever she wanted in the past, she responded like an immature, petulant brat.

[@binaldoshi495]

I thought "I was doing okay". That right there was the problem. Okay and not great.

[@ann-jg2fu]

i would have proved him wrong but clearly rory has a different personality than mine. it issss what it issss

[@georginak5836]

i think she has a very all or nothing mindset. she basically sees herself now as a failure and doesn't think she can do anymore to prove herself so she just doesn't. she relies heavily on reassurance from others. when she does well in things she feels on the road to success but the moment she gets criticism she just thinks this is not for me anymore.

[@junxeve]

See doing what your asked is so easy, and straight A students excel at it. And then we think we’re good. We think we’re the best because we turned in assignments, raised our hands, studied, and got As. But the school system actually hurts us. We become so accustomed to doing what is asked that when they don’t ask we don’t know what to do. There’s just no sense of self.

[@bryand6811]

i've only seen clips of the show so when i saw the scene where her grandfather confronted mitchum, i expected the put down mitchum gave her to be extremely harsh but it wasn't even a bad put down. the assistant comment was the most painful part, but all he said was he didn't feel that she was driven or hungry enough to make it as a journalist. he even softened it by saying that he could be wrong, which was him giving her an opportunity to prove him wrong. she could've spoken up and said "thank you for the feedback i wasn't sure if it was ok for me to comment during the meeting. i'll speak up more from now on and i'll show you that i've got what it takes." i think that was his way of testing to see if she really wanted it and she failed

[@Skyebright1]

Agree he wanted her to take his criticism on the chin and be tougher, not go crying to her grandfather

[@nmhowl8071]

Rory Gilmore is the most uninteresting, unlikeable character ever created. She seeks validation and pats on the head from everyone in her life, particularly guys.

[@Roryxfilms]

When you really think about it. Rory has NEVER been rejected in her life. She’s always been treated like she was perfect. That’s why she reacted the way she did although I think it was very dramatic and foolish, But Rory has always been spoiled.

[@avaz6551]

whether or not he was right isn’t the problem, it’s that he crushed what she had wanted her whole life. any person would be upset about that.

[@MsJubjubbird]

he left the door open though. He told her what was wrong- lack of initiative- and he said that gut instincts can be wrong. As he said later on, if she has what it takes, she'll improve and bounce back

[@victoriaa1492]

I honestly think people are being way to harsh on Rory. Imagine if the one goal you've had for yourself since you were in elementary school got crushed by one of your idols? I'm sure you would react in a similar manner. Also, Mitch could've had many motives in telling Rory that, considering the fact that the Huntzberger family doesn't like Rory mainly because she wants to work and has goals for herself. I think it was also a bit strange that Mitch was able to decide whether Rory could be successful or not in such a short period of time, which makes me even more suspicious about his motives. Either way, I feel like people are holding Rory to such an unrealistic standard, and are over-analyzing her reaction. She has a right to be upset.

[@TheMarkmcr]

Instead of stealing a yacht and manipulating logan into helping her, she could have cooled off in a more appropriate manner and then actually start to prove herself. Besides, her entitlement is so bad that she won't even prepare for an interview.

[@victoriaa1492]

@@TheMarkmcr that is vv true lol she def took it too far. But some people are saying she doesn’t have the right to be upset in the slightest which is simply false

[@TheMarkmcr]

@@victoriaa1492 to be fair to the other commenters, bosses like him exist in real life. Even if they're not narcissistic, this is something that people need to be prepared to handle.

[@TrackerNeil]

I think Mitch was right, and "A Year in the Life" proves that. Rory is intelligent, sure, but is she assertive? Intellectually curious? Willing to take risks? Nah...she's spent most of her life being told how special and smart she is, and she believed it.

[@agatairb9888]

Mitchum said ‘ you don’t have it’ he didn’t say ‘I don’t like your work’, ‘I don’t like how you didn’t interfere more’ he said ‘you don’t have it’ meaning that no matter how hard you’re gonna work your ass off, you’re still not going to make it. now, in all the time she worked there he never called her to the side and told her, it came on the last day and since no one said any constructive criticism prior to this I too would have expected him to praise her. With how she worked here you can understand where mitchum is coming from, she was more focused on pleasing him than anything else regarding the job; but again she was an intern and I think the way they portrayed her was actually very realistic, you know, not wanting to disturb people that have more important jobs than her, not knowing if she could speak up- she probably wanted to, we have seen her in other places where she felt more comfortable (where she didn’t think that one wrong word could make her lose her internship and where she knew that she was part of the group) and she behaved very differently. Mitchum being the biggest paper guy in the country is a really big part of why she took him so seriously, I mean its like wanting to be an actor and tom hanks comes in and says ‘ you’re shit, you can work day and night but you’re still gonna be shit’; I honestly thought that after some time she would’ve kicked back and tried to prove him wrong (that’s what I would’ve done) because I think she would have made it, she could’ve been brilliant. I really hope that they make another revival cause Rory hit a break and I believe now she needs find her way back, to her morals, her passions and everything and learn how to be truly independent, i understand how hard and crushed she was after what mitchum told her but i think that after a bit she should have sprung back and I think she still can (in some way)

[@georginak5836]

yes and as a young woman pitching ideas to a male authority figure such as mitchum can be pretty daunting in the workplace. only a bold assertive character like paris would blend well in that environment

[@goldensunflower229]

Now that made me think that if it wasn’t for Paris taunting her in a Chilton then Rory might have not risen to the highest of her potential. Paris is one if not the most driven person on the show.

[@Stella-km1oq]

I’ve never watched this scene before but always heard how cruel Mitch had been. Quite frankly, I don’t see that cruelty. He gives constructive criticism and isn’t too harsh. It’s honestly sad to see how Rory’s sheltered upbringing is now ruining her ability to take any comment and accept it.

[@baymoo]

rory was good at being told what to do but she didn’t take risks and being a reporter is taking risks being bold and outside the box she just wasn’t that.

[@allys744]

Imagine how flimsy, weak and insecure you’d have to be to immediately give up on your career goals just because ONE person thinks that you don’t have what it takes. Yes, Rory explains later that Mitch is the one guy whose professional opinion you’d get for your career. But if Rory really did have what it took to be a journalist, she would’ve used his constructive criticism as further motivation to work harder. Thing is, by giving her his honest opinion, he was unintentionally correct about her. He was even nice about it, telling her that he wants good things for her and how he’s open to have his hypothesis proven wrong. He was practically trying to push Rory into improving in the right direction and she squandered it. Well, she asked for his opinion and she got it, big shock.

[@Skyebright1]

Agree she should have picked herself up and proved him wrong, that’s what he wanted her to do

[@nadimabbas4093]

I can't believe Logan's dad would fire Rory from his paper after she just started. She had her dream job for less than a week and it's all blown up in her face. That's not fair😞

[@loveGG3]

Did he fire her? He never says don't come back. He actually compliments how she's doing as an intern. He's simply telling her she would be a terrible journalist. And he's right.

[@ileanamaldonado223]

i love it because the revival proved this to be right, she didn’t had what it takes to be a journalist just like he said.....

[@tomtrinh1616]

Rory is spoiled, lacks empathy, lacks accountability, a terrible listener, lack of social awareness, wants too much not willing, a cheater, manipulative, victim complex, a unlikeable character

[@lucyennis210]

Am I the only person who thinks this was Mitchims fault?He basically ruined her.She was doing really well and was getting good grades.He set her off her path.She was doing so well until he crashed her dreams.

[@rachelmanavi4819]

I know right like who needs honesty he should have praised her for breathing air just like her parents, grandparents, and all of stars hollow does

[@florist7743]

He was a person who deeply impacted the course of her life from that point on but I don't think he did it intentionally. It looks like he took the time to observe her and then gave her a roothless feedback, one that people do get sometimes in life. The question is, what are you going to do with it. Are you going to fight or give up. Are you going to react emotional or stay calm and find another way to success. She couldn't handle the situation at all and that's only partly Mitchums fault. Maybe he was too mean to someone who just started out in the real world as he calls it. He is harsh when he speaks, not very diplomatic. Cutting her off like that went maybe too far

[@winzeo7]

Mitch said the magic word "Drive". She wasn't as focused on her passion for journalism. He did do her a favor but she didn't see it.

[@emi_lzj]

Rory could’ve worked in journalism just not in the way she wanted, she was great at making logistics, and being a planner, but she never had the thrive to investigate or be curious, unlike other characters like paris who would dig for the stories, rory just stayed behind in all of that. She was more cautious and not brave enough to go out there and dig a story.