Gil's Arena Debates If Melo Could've Been BETTER Than LeBron

Gil's Arena Debates If Carmelo Anthony Could've Been BETTER Than LeBron James as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew dive into the greatest what if in NBA History and discuss what would have happened if the Detroit Pistons picked Melo over Darko Militic in the 2003 NBA Draft and debate if his career could have ended up being better than LeBron's if he started off on a great team and got over the hump for an NBA Championship early in his career.
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[@MrDiipp]

Saying Melo couldn’t average 20 when Tayshaun Prince was avg 15 is blasphemy!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@LuQaBras1]

I dont know where yall are a getting 15 from he avg 10 on that championship team on 9 shots and making 4, whereas melo was taking 18 shots his rookie year and shot a worse percentage than tayshuan, so it’s easy to say melo wouldn’t avg 20 when you use logic.

[@tellthetruthrightnow]

Melo with that Detroit would have been another dynasty. All that team needed was another bucket getter

[@LuQaBras1]

@@tellthetruthrightnow like Gil said Melo would’ve been another harden on OKC or Manu on the Spurs, because of how Larry Brown would’ve used him. Rip was taking 15 shots and Chauncey and Rasheed were taking 13 and all three still had to play defense, so to think Melo would get anywhere close to the amount of shots they got on a Larry Brown team when he prioritized team and defense is crazy.

[@xavierb9061]

Melo makes pistons worse. Now clear defensive weakness. Dont say offense, they have clear weakness in wallace. Changes team

[@Raptor77.]

@@LuQaBras1he would’ve been harden for okc AT THE TIME .. but in 09 when they would’ve got rid of the ogs he would be solo and avg 25+ like what happened when harden went to houston

[@cap536]

They should’ve had this debate with K Mart there….he played on Denver with Melo so he would know best

[@Geronimo410]

I think they gone ask it again when he comes back because his answer would probably be the most valid

[@devingibson4]

I’m mad wasn’t there. He woulda cussed Gil out.

[@CubanDollThickness]

And Knicks

[@mackvtv456]

It woulda took him ten minutes for three sentences

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

@@devingibson4and he still wouldn’t be right. Melo wasn’t doing anything to be better than lebron. He just wasn’t on his level and couldn’t get there, period.

[@NaomiAngel-h1y]

Carmelo Anthony was gone average 27 regardless of his teammates Melo is still Melo

[@jerronnorris5829]

Same can b said about LBJ...I'm jus say'n

[@kingshabazz1310]

Not with Larry Brown coaching. Yall just young and forget how egotistical Larry Brown was. He was old school and didn't play rookies.

[@jaygainer7955]

@@kingshabazz1310 what rookie Larry brown have drafted top 5?

[@jaygainer7955]

@@kingshabazz1310 Larry Hughes played right away , but Carmelo wasn’t ? Lmao ok

[@bodine113]

Melo not avg 27 with that team lol

[@vincentcortez4816]

This was a moronic move of the Detroit Pistons. Melo would've continued the dynasty and made them relevant after that 04 chip.

[@quentonwillis3846]

The 04 team would have looked entirely different if they drafted Melo in 03 though. They would have gotten Sheed and Prince likely wouldn't have developed the same.

[@vincentcortez4816]

@@quentonwillis3846 This is a good take. But Sheed was going towards the last few years of his career. Prince development might've been affected the following year since Melo would've probably been the 6th knowing Coach Brown's philosophy.

[@jordananthony5882]

​@@quentonwillis3846Sheed was well established already. As for prince he would ha been alright. More like a kawhi role when he was with the spurs

[@georgehunter3498]

I can see Camelo breaking through like Kawhi did in San Antonio 💯

[@clarencesmith467]

Yeah TP would of came off the bench if he had to very humble guys and knew how to win

[@georgehunter3498]

Camelo came in the league a champion 💯The veterans on the team would’ve been better for him and his development

[@edwardnigma9037]

Kawhi played defense well

[@georgehunter3498]

@@edwardnigma9037 Camelo is a good defender also

[@edwardnigma9037]

@@georgehunter3498 when he put in effort. That was barely

[@andreandrews6237]

Gil trying to make it seem like Melo would have had to sit on the bench for a long time is nuts. Also he didn’t just up and develop his style in the league, he was incredible in isolation at Syracuse

[@CORI4NDER]

not because of his skill necessarily but because of that coach, he woulda been a bench player for a couple years unfortunately

[@jerryfrenchy4152]

Faces

[@jerryfrenchy4152]

Facts*

[@IVYLOC_]

315

[@johnsonrosario8293]

🧐Melo was already 🦾Melo when he🤔🏆won NCAA tournament championship🥱

[@wiiz2780able]

No, because LBJ is LBJ. Melo is Melo ,simple

[@TylerNicely]

Gil forgets Billups and Mello played together for his best playoff run. This may be the only time I agree with McCants

[@naujud216]

That and McCants is essentially describing what happened with Kawhi in San Antonio.

[@GHOST91141]

Melo playing with Sheed, Big Ben, Rip, Billups & Prince could've made Melo a better leader & damn sure a better defensive player

[@JohnSmith-sw9vq]

Plus being coached by Larry Brown would have definitely helped his game. That team would have been great.

[@CodeSwift01]

Some people just don’t wanna do things that nigga melo only cared about the bag and putting the ball in hoop, I doubt he’d improve on defense that’ll might make it worse tbh

[@TradingGzwithG]

Melo only played defense against 2 players, Lebron and Kobe. If you wasnt on his iso scoring level or superstar status he didnt play defense lol. He would lock Lebron up and give him 30

[@vsioljones2549]

They wouldn’t have had Sheed yet. Pistons didn’t get sheed until Mid year and they went on to win the chip

[@jsongz201]

@@TradingGzwithGthat’s facts lol

[@cspill99]

Melo working out with Sheed, Ben and Prince everyday. He would have been one of the best to every do it!

[@absalompiankhitv]

On God 🙏🏿🤣

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

Because they would’ve taught him how to be a solid defender

[@karu2995]

It wasn't about teaching it was desire. Melo didn't defend because he didn't want to.

[@cspill99]

@karu2995 I never mentioned anything about defense. Offensively, he would have been training daily against three of the top big defenders in the league. Imagine the elevation of that.

[@paulcoleman4663]

A Barkley with handles & a 3

[@YZ4hunnid]

Detroit had NO SUCH EQUIVALENT of KD and Russ lol

[@lefearfactor20]

All facts

[@rakeldanell]

That was MY team... I got a video about it, and I agree.... we had NO such equivalent.

[@HappyfaceSinner]

I like how Gil doesn’t like to engage in hypotheticals but fully predicted Melos career in this experiment 😂😂😂

[@NAS9088]

Was he a elite defender like every other top 10 player? But offense is what makes guys better😂😂

[@thechosen1860]

Gil right… melo would’ve been harden

[@jaybowman696]

😂😂😂😂

[@TOoLoUd89292]

Just because he's going with the topic doesn't mean he has to go with the LeBron haters he's telling the truth

[@ItsAhk2K]

Are you not realizing this whole question was hypothetical??????

[@oldbabeee-4250]

Gil tripping... Talking about he learned to score like that in Denver.. Lets not forget he took Syracuse to the championship and won.. This dude been a scorer before he came to the league

[@iamkingknight]

Facts I was just saying this to myself he would’ve came into the league with a team winning mind set so saying he couldn’t come to Detroit and not be a killer and team player is crazy

[@jaybee6892]

What if Bron went to Detroit buddy what would his career look like

[@Ybthadreadhead]

@@jaybee6892the same exact way it is now.

[@vincentemireles3794]

@@Ybthadreadheadstfu lmao ppl like you feed into dumb ass conversations like this

[@sinbad5721]

@@Ybthadreadhead he would have 6 chips

[@Call_Me_Con]

Melo would have taken Prince’s spot the way Kobe took Eddie Jones spot. This the first time I’ve agreed with McCants

[@djgarrett5377]

You want to know what separates Tatum from Luka? Defense. Melo was never going to be a good defensive player. Lebron does everything good.

[@waltjones6927]

So you cool with ROOKIE Melo guarding PRIME Kobe in the finals??

[@kennedy8926]

​@@djgarrett5377Melo was a good defender when he tried or depending on the matchup. Wasn't the best or all NBA for sure, but wasn't bad when the effort was there.

[@pathmark6081]

No doubt it because Larry Brown was a prick

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Casuals think melons inefficient points would make every team a championship 🤣🤣

[@ShawnGillespie-s5p]

Facts he scored that much because he was the only scorer they think he was just out here making every shot no he was TAKING every shot

[@laurenmiles3303]

Melo didn't have a bad career he's top ten scoring all time... He should've won a Chip with one of those Denver teams. Melo is great.

[@casualgamer4898]

no ones saying he had a bad career just not near lebron's level

[@sirnamejames1992]

Thank you I won’t comment any further

[@shinobu37]

He’s good not great

[@pokerNGold]

Well said

[@MARZOSIRUS]

Melo could have sacrificed a little money to join a better team like Detroit. He could have made up the money through endorsements. Just think about it this way. Michael Jordan damn near played for the minimum until late in his career. MJ chose to optimize his team over the NBA contract. So his off court endorsements shined because of his winning status as the greatest.

[@NathanR2D2]

But he didn’t. End of discussion

[@Kikibrat2]

☠

[@nigeljohnson7919]

I be hating hypotheticals but then well have pod #imisstheszn

[@drewland6140]

Lebron has no bag 😂😂😂😂

[@snupedummy]

Your no fun at parties

[@maisonmargielademon2915]

@@drewland61404 championships 4 MVPs for the guy with “No bag” sounds pretty amazing too me

[@lawrence.peoples]

That dude said Melo was a 6’8 PG. 😂😂😂😂😂 And that Larry Brown would’ve let him cook, when we ALL KNOW Larry Brown didn’t even wanna play Bron, Wade and Melo in the Olympics. Let’s stop this shit.

[@dellingtonarts3487]

Bruh said they "disintegrated" in 07 like the team got shot with an alien gun or something

[@BlackMoneyMusic]

Gil missing the point Melo played at Cuse in an offense that he fit in, but stood out

[@killakam8738]

No your missing the point like Mccants always does lol. Melo played in an offense that he just fit it, and still choose to do nothing but score. He would have never been anything like Harden no matter what. 61pts, 0 assist, 0 rebs, 0 blks and 0 steals ilwoth no defense is Gil's whole point. He wouldnt have had the shot Mccants thinks in Detroit because he would not have been the player Mccants just magically thinks he would have morphed into

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

@@killakam8738Detroit players would’ve made Carmelo a better 2 way player

[@killakam8738]

@@user-lt1fx2he5s Sure but to Gils point. He wouldnt have been the Melo Mccants keeps trying to just plug inyo the Pistons. And how long would it have taken if at all??

[@chamdumba5666]

The past is not linear once I change one thing everything else changes

[@dochouse_]

ok yoda

[@grayson7844]

@@dochouse_ lmaoooooooo

[@Aaron-mm4hf]

True, Melo winning 3 ruins Kobe and Boston big 3 legacy. That's not happening. Lebron didn't win until 11-12 all that happens. Because Melo would still be alone.

[@ronelldeadrick9252]

The 09 nuggets were deep af. I hate when they say he never played with anyone

[@cordellbagley2269]

Melo in Detroit is also Kawahi in San Antonio.

[@coryvictorian7230]

Don’t disrespect Melo like tht

[@youngguado]

Not with Larry brown out there… y’all trippin

[@cordellbagley2269]

​@@youngguadoLarry Brown coached like Pop. Melo would have a Kawahi role when the big 3 were there. Then Brown would have to play Melo or trade him after his rookie deal was up.

[@JesusSaves33011]

​@@coryvictorian7230 prime Kawhi > Melo

[@ShawnGillespie-s5p]

Still wouldn’t have had a better career than bron

[@704jizzle2]

Even THE PISTONS PLAYERS SAID MELO WOULD HAVE BEEN THE #1 OPTION FROM DAY 1

[@michaelscott2002]

Maybe 2nd to rip but Chauncey and Ty is out of the question

[@TyShizzle121]

they can say that in hindsight but we see every season how different dynamics play out in real life

[@back2back379]

Actually, Ben Wallace said he feels they would not have ever won a Championship if they drafted Melo because Melo was already a star and the chemistry would have been affected because Melo would have wanted more playing time. There's a reason there have been reports throughout Melo's career of him causing issues due to his selfishness, including from Chauncey Billups who stated Melo was too concerned with getting scoring numbers, that scoring was often more important to Melo than even winning the game. Larry Brown had Melo on the bench during the Olympics, and Melo basically discarded his medal. That's the kind of mindset and behavior that causes issues.

[@redeyespyone]

​@@back2back379Larry Brown should've played Melo. Maybe that's why they only won the bronze.

[@Racoons4Change]

You have no receipts or sources e and this has 45 upvotes 😂 Ben Wallace just said Melo wouldn’t have worked. So did sheed.

[@foshenthepanhandlechampion8189]

LeBron has had a larger responsibility other than scoring the ball

[@_ThatOneServant]

And he still scored alone with having to facilitate and guard

[@iunderstanphotography2780]

i was looking for this comment Lebron isn't all offense

[@jamiehurling9544]

Good conversation fellas

[@mellomadeitright2802]

Kenyon should have been here for this topic.

[@majormontega]

Melo with that nightmare defence around him would’ve been crazy, wonder if they still get Sheed tho 🤔

[@HakeemTheDream616]

Exactly that whole team would've been different

[@ericclatterbuck6633]

They would not get Rashedd

[@jrelgran1on1]

They're still cold without Sheed Prince could've been very serviceable at the four.

[@josedelacruz256]

I agree with McCants. Melo’s career would have been very different with some rings.

[@tedlessor3887]

His whole game would be different because of those guys.

[@DoctorDayWalker503]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="484">8:04</a> SOMEONE LET OFF A HUGE SNEEZE🤣🤣🤣

[@Lilbro901]

I'm tired of people thinking championships make you the better player. Put LeBron on the Detroit team and they'd have at least a 3 peat

[@demonofpurgatory5188]

A ball hog vs a play that can do it all with extreme athleticism

[@drewland6140]

Lebron has no bag and check his usage rate ….Lebron definitely a ball hog just pass when he runs out of ideas

[@mjg6233]

@@drewland6140I checked his usage rate. It’s less than Michael Jordan. No bag ? Buddy he create moves . Bank three fades and all. and run a 4 5 at 260

[@dochouse_]

@@mjg6233go watch football

[@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952]

I guess Jordan a ball hog to

[@lucianodadon7822]

That had to team up with other niggas to create super teams

[@TreeEl-gp2tx]

That Pac n Biggie shirt is 🔥

[@Ran_Ryaz]

Michael Jackson riding backseat

[@johnnguyen6469]

Nah those guys have long been gone from the face of this earth, led a very violent lifestyle and paid the ultimate price

[@jojor2917]

@@johnnguyen6469shut up Chinese boy

[@bigfish6742]

​@@johnnguyen6469so should he wear a shirt with a bunch of rockstars that died of heroin overdoses

[@johnnguyen6469]

@bigfish6742 no he should not. Wearing shirts to glorify drug use and gang violence? Why? Those men have been gone for like three decades now, it’s time to move on

[@leeloot6243]

McCants slogan “Move tf around”

[@cornellcuffey1894]

Lol Gil literally answered his own question at the end… Melo would have been Kobe. Got the early rings, then when the original 04 team leaves, Melo takes off. Same career path as Kobe

[@BTAKVE]

If he could have been he would have been. LeBrons passing, IQ, and willingness to play defense made the difference

[@shawnskillz8808]

Don't forget that LeBron played with 10 hall of famers in his career, Melo never had that cushion

[@ShawnGillespie-s5p]

@@shawnskillz8808that still doesn’t change the fact that Bron play style is more all around than Melo, even take away Brons accomplishments he’s still more than Melo

[@user-kv5bl4db8e]

The Melo disrespect is crazy. Melo was averaging 25 on any team is Gil dumb or did he forget who melo is

[@anthonylockhart6120]

Melo average more than 25 the highest he average was 28ppg

[@704jizzle2]

GIL dumb

[@TOoLoUd89292]

Points don't always equate to championships y'all casuals say anything like this is 2k or something 😂

[@casualgamer4898]

out the bench and different systems require sacrifices to win a ring Hebron could've averaged 30 in his prime but didn't and won rings

[@user-kv5bl4db8e]

@@TOoLoUd89292 no you a clown tryna overthink to sound smart. Carmelo on the pistons roster is automatically they best scorer and with that team he would of won chips. It’s very simple. I been watching basketball all my life you casual

[@PrinceDJj]

Why are they trying to argue which one is wrong when this whole debate is hypothetical? Nobody knows what Melo would have been with the Pistons. He could have won three titles, and by year three, he could have been the focal point of the team. Rashad has a point, and so does Gil. You are both right. There are no wrongs in a hypothetical. That's why you can't argue hypotheticals because nobody knows what would have happened.

[@ricoeab2]

Come on yall, we can say "if"!! Thats like saying "if" my Auntie had nuts she'd be my uncle! 😂

[@PhillyFan477]

Gil funny af. 😂😂 He know damn well he wrong.

[@tellitlikeitisfresh6541]

Per usal

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

No he not. It's a what if, the coach at the time is the factor.

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

How is he wrong?? Anyone who thinks Melo would’ve been a better player than lebron is just plain stupid 😂

[@stanleed.harold5457]

​@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yuBrown was Iverson's coach

[@stanleed.harold5457]

​@@YouReallyDontKnowjust better. LeBron is not really a part of this

[@flexermc4333]

Bron got a possibly worse team than Melo and had to carry the cavs for 7 years. And still he was a 2 time MVP in that poor roster.Melo never better than Bron

[@TheBilalUddin]

in th ecf melo made the plkayoffs EVERY YEAR IN THE WEST

[@deyontaewilkerson5886]

Thank you!!😂 Lebron was carrying bums and still thrived

[@amirmoney3221]

lebron left the Cavs remember that

[@Steveooter]

How old was bron when he did that? And what they talking about rookie Melo - year 3,4 ?

[@tellitlikeitisfresh6541]

Roster wasn't poor

[@CaliPaliGuy]

I'm going to like this barber shop talk not that the season is over. I like the stories

[@Higharcent]

“Tony Parker ginobli melo” got me 😂

[@christurner2684]

Melo had the talent to be but not the mentality, drive,and determination to be better than Bron

[@mjg6233]

No tf he didn’t

[@FrozeBone]

He didn't have Lebrons level of talent either.

[@jmu76featuring61]

Thats the point tho..off the bench rookie year w those guys leading him..his mentality would of been different for sure

[@anthonylockhart6120]

Melo was a better scorer than lebron ​@@FrozeBone

[@Sausedeez5666]

That's a negative

[@bk2az1]

Good discussion!! But there’s far too many other factors to consider….like CHEMISTRY… Chemistry with the coach…and with teammates. It makes a difference

[@josemariepacia4558]

Melo can unlock his skills on defense and being a team player if he was drafted in Detroit. It's like GIL is saying that he won't learn anything if he was with high IQ players. That does not make sense at all. Surrounding yourself with high IQ players make you a more dynamic player. Think about it GIL.

[@1big30czhk]

Bro how y’all gone have this discussion without Kenyon and he played with him on two teams!!!! That’s crazy 😂😂

[@maximusbenjamin8077]

Gil acting like melo wasn’t always gonna be melo, all Gil gotta do is look at his career, came in not playing but did his thing in the minutes he got then eventually got to a situation where he could do him, only difference is melo on Detroit would’ve potentially made melo a champion unlike Gil with the warriors and melo development with them vets would’ve been nice

[@CFREUp]

Gil is 100% wrong, and for no reason 💯

[@tellitlikeitisfresh6541]

As always just a big goofy

[@stanleed.harold5457]

He stay 🧢🧢🧢🧢🤡💀🤷🤦

[@karletonmcbride8083]

​@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 you a goofy yoself

[@Raptor77.]

Gil really disproved his own theory with the James harden example he gave😂

[@Gucci2Glocks]

lol the thought of Melo with the braids coming off the bench just don’t sit right with me😂

[@jaybee6892]

Stupid conversation, what if Lebron went to Detroit

[@thetruth14444]

4 CHIPS EASY

[@obadiahalonzo1288]

That would have been Crazy

[@rakeldanell]

I cry thinking about the pick we made that year. Tears.

[@mowilliams8511]

Detroit had a opportunity to take melo #2 in the 03 draft instead they draft a big goofy name Darko . LeBron went first so they couldn't take LeBron..

[@NCOMBHOODIE]

imma say this and imma lebron fan . it would’ve been more of a debate if melo got drafted to Detroit .

[@solo2778]

I think so to. Melo with those vets would've been different

[@TOoLoUd89292]

You don't have to say I'm a LeBron fan the real fans don't even say that because we know basketball and how it's played. Selfish players don't go far in the league

[@johnnguyen6469]

It’s not just about melo being selfish but the fact he didn’t work in his body enough like lebron did to really separate himself

[@phatch5444]

Lebron winning a chip on that Denver team. He’d defer to his vets hte said so himself.

[@NCOMBHOODIE]

@@TOoLoUd89292 your right about the fan part . i just don’t wanna come off as tho im hating wen in reality i been a lebron fan since i was 5 years old .

[@lionface1364]

This is a great question regardless of which side of the debate you support.

[@WareWolf831]

It’s not real till Rashad say “Move the Fuck Around “ 😂😂😂

[@iamnaimtheartist]

Gil also not remembering that Melo had a bad relationship with Carl. With a better coach we don’t know how great he’d be

[@thomaschapman6088]

But you’re still comparing him to Lebron. Everything you’re saying about Melo can be said about Lebron too. Melo had a better coach and players early in his career.

[@DonnaGarcia-ul6ke]

You're a natural, keep doing what you do

[@frehgamedogg9983]

Good points this episode for Rashad

[@realdealsteele8075]

Not really because LeBron beat this Detroit Pistons team and Carmelo can't play defense like nobody on this team. They had great team defense. Carmelo doesn't play defense

[@kausing_kommotion]

Rashad that shirt is 🔥🔥🔥

[@corpyhogan4433]

You have to remember the gap between LeBron and Carmelo isn't just about skill. Carmelo by all accounts is more skilled than LeBron, but LeBron has a better work ethic.

[@yinkz15]

I disagree , melo just has a better jumper everything else id give to Bron

[@raymondsims7042]

@@yinkz15agreed

[@OGE585]

​@@raymondsims7042agreed

[@something2consider783]

Melo was not more skilled than LeBron. Melo's handles were weak. Definitely, he could not guard one through five like LeBron in his prime. Further, he could not go coast to coast. Melo had a half-court game.

[@raymondsims7042]

@@something2consider783 for some reason casuals don’t count defense as a skill🤷‍♂️

[@617boston6]

This is a question for kenyan. I think he would have more insight

[@wUnknownPerson]

The fact that this is even a debate pisses me off, Carmelo would’ve never been better then lebron, while melo was know for primarily being a scorer, LeBRON is the best all around player of all time who can go out there and get you 30PTS 10+ REBOUNDS 10+ ASSIST on any giving night. This is blasphemy, but I’m not surprised most of the guys on this show are lebron haters as most people are😂😂

[@MrPromech]

Y’all don’t realize that Demar Derozan is Melo without the accolades, and that the reason he doesn’t have them is because he’s ALWAYS had teammates to sacrifice for vs Melo had it all

[@MikeStew07]

You can't do hypocriticals because it's endless. Melo goes to Detroit, then the entire draft changes. Year after year.

[@sportingarena6462]

Best comment I’ve seen so far. The butterfly effect

[@BattleTruth]

Miami heat would have zero championships

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

​@@BattleTruth maybe

[@thomaschapman6088]

Miami only lost to the piston in Wades 2nd year because he got injured.

[@IsaiahEss-uq4yv]

McCants making some sense for once

[@stanleed.harold5457]

He's way better than gil lately

[@tylerwilson8615]

The Pistons are run by people who clearly don’t know how to draft or develop. Melo may have never developed in Detroit.

[@eatswithbearzz32]

Skills don't matter without stats, makes me think of the Lamar Odom conversation. All the skills with average stats

[@thetarheel2010j]

Also not sure how Melo and Larry Brown would have mixed. Larry was oooolllldddd school… so I understand what Gil is saying… Larry would have definitely had Melo coming off the bench… I also don’t think that they understand what Gil is saying… someone is gonna have to sacrifice. James wasn’t gonna be able to dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble with KD and Russ. This a great conversation. Some consider James one of the best scorers in NBA history. Do we see that games if he’s playing with Russ and Durant??

[@vincentbrown3995]

Melo handles never been weak lol. What do u watch. Lebron has no handle lol. He just runs through you. Yall say anything

[@HakeemTheDream616]

This is one of the all-time great what if's in NBA history lol

[@djgarrett5377]

For real haha. Got me asking “what if Lebron went to the Spurs?”

[@BIGMIKE-mk9ce]

What the fuck is Gilbert arenas talking about😂😂😂😂😂

[@marcelljackson2868]

I'm on McCants side on this one I think Melo would have been fine coming off the bench early in his career. I think brown would have found a way to get him involved in the offense

[@sylanderhopkins6665]

McCants just want ppl to move around 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@llASTROII]

Melo was in a better situation in denver when Bron was in Cleveland to start their career. Melo chose money over winning its that simple

[@anthonylockhart6120]

Melo was in a tougher Western conference while lebron was in a weaker eastern conference

[@jctslice]

​@@anthonylockhart6120 when they were young, the East wasn't weak at all. In fact, in LeBron's first 6 years, an East team won the title 3 times. This narrative gets overblown with not enough facts to back it up

[@OtbPrezy]

@@jctslicea east team won this year does that not make the East a weak conference still?

[@denjiurameshi4699]

@@jctslice The East has been the weaker conference.You left out how the West won 7 of those titles of that decade. Even if you look at that specific time frame you used. How many MVP players was in that conference? How many players from the East were selected to all-nba teams those years compared to West players?

[@jctslice]

@@OtbPrezy if an East team wins the title, conference strength is irrelevant because you beat both conferences

[@BambooAssassin]

Melo was always going to be melo 27 points no assist and 3 rebounds nothing was going to change that

[@csouth89]

Gil is basing Melo not playing on Darko which is a mistake. I'm from Detroit and they would show clips of Darko in practice where he just wasn't ready for the NBA. Players pushing him out to make rotations. He was lost, that's on of the biggest reasons he didn't play. Melo might not have started, but would have played significant minutes as a rookie and made the Pistons that much better.

[@chriswil5919]

He probably would’ve started .. Tay probably would’ve been coming off the bench 6man .. Or Melo could’ve been that scoring 6man 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@LuckyShowTime]

Melo in Detroit wins 2-3 rings and they would’ve built a team around him after Rip and Chillups got older.

[@jaybee6892]

What if Bron went to Detroit buddy what would his career look like

[@LuckyShowTime]

@@jaybee6892 😂😂😂 Gund wasn’t taking nobody but Bron in 03. I woulda took Melo first bc of what he did at Syracuse but that’s just me.

[@xavierb9061]

0 rings, changes team hes weak defender.

[@LuckyShowTime]

@@xavierb9061 You REALLY think Big Ben, Sheed, Rip, Chillups, Mike Curry, Lindsey Hunter, Mike James, and even Tayshaun woulda let Melo get by w/o playing defense? 😒😒😒😒😒

[@xavierb9061]

@@LuckyShowTime why did they win defense. Now him prince splitting minutes throws off focus. Melo prob traded, this is aft4 brown left iverson

[@Jukeboxster]

I don't understand the question. Melo had a long career, he had 100% control of his ability to be better and he wasn't. Could he have racked up some championships playing for Detroit? Sure but team accomplishments don't make a player better than another. I guess they mean could he have had a better *career*? Still no but championships for Melo would've put him in some interesting conversations.

[@matheobavogui7493]

This right there. I don't think they even understand what they are about. Melo was not better than Bron coming into the draft. So yeah, Give him 3 rings and 3 finals MVP in Detroit and he is still not a better player.

[@phyllisbullet]

why gil acting like melo didn’t play basketball before the nba🤣

[@YR_Killem]

Brandon jennings sassy af lmao

[@reef9084]

I’m not the only one that see it. His mannerisms and how he move his head when he argues. Always judging men outfits

[@professorzoom4467]

😂😂

[@eamorrison859]

I get what Gil is saying. Melo's mindset would've changed because of the culture. He wouldn't have turned into the self player because that wasn't the culture in Detroit.

[@TyShizzle121]

people just missing the point because we know what the finished product looks like. if he's coming into a championship contender its a completely different dynamic than him automatically getting the keys like in Denver. that team wouldn't even call for him to score 20 until a player or two is traded or let go.

[@alod247]

@@TyShizzle121 That team needed a scorer bad. Melo would’ve been exactly what they needed. And he would’ve been the best player on the team by the end of the season

[@TyShizzle121]

@@alod247do you really think it’d just be that easy? Between how Gil said the coach wasn’t in favor of younger players and just the stars already there having egos I promise it wouldn’t go that smoothly. We see every season how egos and stuff derail or just flat out change teams.

[@DexbeGaming]

Both sides sound possible all I can say great debate no answer but great discussion

[@bodine113]

@@alod247no they didn’t lol

[@Being_Water]

Gil tripping. Melo would still get buckets on that Detroit team 😂. That trajectory would’ve been insane because he would’ve been a better defensive player also being around those guys.

[@blacktv2624]

Melo was gone bust they ass in practice 😂 wouldn’t take long for coach to realize who need the ball in their hand to get a bucket after 2 years

[@TOoLoUd89292]

Look at mccants ready to diminish LeBron 😂 Man we know what type of player Melo is as a player. He had Kmart and A.i. and didn't get it done he didn't pass the ball enough.

[@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952]

Lebron had Shaq & multiple all stars

[@TOoLoUd89292]

@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 every star y'all try to glaze he played with besides Ad and Kyrie were past their primes and Dwade was on the decline. Y'all haters say anything

[@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952]

@@TOoLoUd89292 past his prime wade almost won mvp the year before , melo never had the star power lebron had

[@TOoLoUd89292]

@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 man y'all casuals say anything. Can't just put players together and think it'll work. This isn't 2k and I bet you were the same one that thought KD harden and Kyrie was going to work when it clearly wasn't even Luka and Kyrie didn't work. LeBron knows how to win with guys and he's probably have more had his so called star power showed up example y'all say Kevin love but he shows up with 6 points in a game 5 SMH but that's star power y'all say Shaq when he was coming off the bench being a liability more than what he was with Kobe. C'mon y'all casuals say anything cause y'all are mad at FACTS

[@user-en5er4fq2m]

Lebron had better teammates than everyone in a weak conference.: get off his nutssck

[@casualgamer4898]

never heard anyone say Melo over or close to lebron when he was still in the league now everyone in the comments picking Melo lol why do people increase your rank when you retire or die

[@selfawarepotassium]

It’s just contrarianism. No one with any basketball knowledge ever suggested Melo was more talented than Bron through his whole career. Because it’s a ridiculous thing to say. Thats not an insult to Melo, Bron is a top 2 player of all time.

[@user-ow7qv8nq6t]

Oh you must be young lmao Melo at 1 point was the guy 😂

[@mr.r4910]

I know they are LITERALLY trying to crowbar kobe in the goat conversation soooooooo bad 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@selfawarepotassium]

@@user-ow7qv8nq6tI’m the same age as Lebron. No he wasn’t.

[@stanleed.harold5457]

Melo had a better rookie year and 2nd year melo was a better scorer for 5 years

[@slogrofitness5041]

McCants gets so animated anything against Bron lol

[@bw6291]

People forget Melo was the real Rookie of the year. He definitely wouldve been a thorn in Bron side had he been drafted to the Pistons

[@mr.r4910]

And you're on crack he would've been better than kobe

[@Maja-hs5pd]

Agreed same thing happened a year or 2 after with Ben Gordon and emaka okafor

[@shottafps]

Gil is obviously intelligent, but I hate when he plays dumb just for the sake of engagement. Like, we’re gonna watch regardless. Stop saying “you’re doing hypotheticals” in one breath, then use hypotheticals in the next. McCants won this - get your feet in the bodybag, Gil.

[@LaMar34_34]

Melo isn’t a better player than Lebron

[@raymondsims7042]

Not even close

[@tempus6280]

Same could be said of Bron didn’t get drafted by Cleveland

[@Quan1992]

It's a myth that Larry brown didn't like rookies. He aint like shit players

[@Rellprice4]

When Rashad is making more sense then you know you’re tripping .. Hiibachi’s ego will Not let him be wrong and I respect it 😂

[@djgarrett5377]

Depends on what you’re arguing. Yea Melo could have been a better player if drafted by the Pistons but better than Lebron? C’mon. That’s pretty much saying Melo would have been the GOAT because there’s only one player that has an argument over Lebron. Lebron has 40000 points and 10000 rebounds/assists. Melo ain’t getting that no matter who he’s drafted by. Y’all tripping just like Mcants.

[@mr.r4910]

You know what he would've made more sense if they said Carmelo would've been better than jordan or kobe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jkassh9743]

When Melo was drafted he went into a better situation than Bron and always had the better team ( his first stint in Cleveland ) and didn’t do anything. He had every chance to have a better career and choose not to🤷🏽

[@vincentbrown3995]

Except he had to go through the spurs and lakers who were winning championships every year

[@derekvandewarker4211]

I do agree with Rashad in much but he was on point with this one.

[@anthonycook4267]

Being the 3 overall pick to come off that bench as 6th man is nasty work

[@joshuaroach4045]

Gil a real life hater bruh the coach Larry brown had Iverson enough said smh

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

But in this A.I. was already on the team when Larry Brown arrived. Melo is a rookie here and some coaches don't like playing rookie right away.

[@kaelinjefferies9267]

How is he hating 😂? Anytime someone says something y’all don’t like it’s considered hating 😂

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

Gil is wrong. Melo 6th man first year becomes leading scorer second year then he probably gets 2 rings on Detroit. Gil is not that smart about bball no matter what you weirdos say. Rashad actually speaking facts, except melo probably averages 25ppg from season 2 on. How is he not the focal point of the offense when he was by far the best offensive player on that team from when he gets in the league. He had his one on one style FROM COLLEGE, Not the league

[@Delray-yl7hl]

Yeah cause u know right wat u said would have happen def would have had it

[@IsaacClark23]

stop making shit up

[@henryferguson4871]

Hahaha dude rashad literally has no idea. And he is that jealous of lebron his opinion when lebron is in the convo is immediately irrelevant.

[@AshleyMona]

This random asf, but some times I forget that McCants got a shiny bald head 😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@damonwhitaker4696]

Cant believe this is a debate

[@freemind8227]

Gil Melo was better than you FACTS

[@raymondsims7042]

Truth but no anywhere near better than lebron though

[@andyheath5244]

@@raymondsims7042he was better his rookie season, after that bron took off

[@raymondsims7042]

@@andyheath5244 sure

[@Oldmanstillgotit]

Melo NEVER PLAYED DEFENSE. I honestly think I can score 5 points on him 😭

[@geton411]

u not shooting over a 6’8 dude lil bro

[@Oldmanstillgotit]

@@geton411 I don’t have to he’s not gunna try I’ll just blow by him small fry 😭

[@user-ow7qv8nq6t]

He did in Prime watch full games of him. People treat like he was Luka he wasn't the media narrate the minds of people.