Gil's Arena GETS HOSTILE Debating The Top 5 SGs Ever

[@nhoodjazz]

THE D WADE DISRESPECT IS CRAZY MCCANTS IS OUT OF HIS MIND

[@shawnjaybrown1276]

We got no respect for D wade...i got klay ahead of him

[@bigjuni2102]

@@shawnjaybrown1276we got everybody on earth ahead of you

[@SolaceMcfly]

​@@shawnjaybrown1276get back in the lab this troll job was horrible

[@Kdsmoovedab]

@@shawnjaybrown1276You smokin crack and it’s laced

[@robk6831]

​@@shawnjaybrown1276 take a lap

[@freckargent]

Debating McCants is like tryna debate with a younger sibling that thinks they're an expert because they saw a tiktok .

[@mauricevanderhall9589]

Nailed it

[@bcbornbrad]

Meat head if he wasnt wealthy he be in jail for sure

[@karithema9ician657]

He more knowledgeable about these topics then all of them majority of the time though.

[@bcbornbrad]

@@karithema9ician657 I think it's just we so surprised. He has intelligent thought at times that we. Remeber it cause it's so rare

[@quinnitadavis7575]

Absolutely

[@esotericmanifestation5032]

"I don't go by stats" but he lead his argument for Harden with "he averaged 40 for a month"

[@nickvereen5809]

But they don’t tell you the team was losing bad

[@JohnBoy84]

He does that ALL the time and the only reason he uses that is to discredit Bron

[@jjaytroche123]

If only someone on the couch was really LISTENING they’d be able to expose that reality 💯

[@teamer35]

​@nickvereen5809 no they weren't. Harden won way more than he lost in houston. He was there one deep

[@phoenixventress5891]

😂😂

[@GeeOhDee88]

Tracy McGrady on Rashad McCants "He couldn't defend me in the NBA what makes him think he can defend me here (China)?"

[@tracymcgrady4722]

😅

[@stuartmccleary]

McCants saying Harden over Wade is crazy from a guy who says defense is important. Wade is like #1 in blocks for SG.

[@ghostface3652]

Man I love wade and he’s def more accomplished, but y’all forget how good harden was. Avg 40 ppg for weeks at a time, double and triple doubles consistently

[@MrPrankKing1]

@@ghostface3652yes Harden was a insane scorer no doubt and definitely a top SG of all time… but Wade was different… and let’s not forget Wade defense was miles ahead of what Harden could ever do… basketball isn’t just about scoring and Wade did both and he is a certified winner

[@IlmaliklI]

@@MrPrankKing1dwade wouldn’t take the kd warriors 7 tho…

[@dashawnhicks5384]

@@ghostface3652no we didn’t it’s just wade play both ways and actually lead to winning

[@blacmamba9665]

@@Ty-cs5wland you don’t know basketball dwade would defend your best player, go look at him guarding Kobe, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a SG defend Kobe like dwade did 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@SoFantasticWonderful]

McCants the type of dude that would think Jeremy Lin is a top 10 player all time if he retired right after Linsanity.

[@skillethead15]

McCants is a clown. By his logic, if Jokic retired right now, he’s the GOAT.

[@chriswhite1919]

i was saying to myself if we are going off McCants the linsanity run makes him better than a lot of players. and i don’t ever want to sound like i’m downplaying A.I but if we are being honest it’s Mj,Kobe,Wade, then A.I or harden

[@Zone6bully]

McCants wasn’t even a mid player

[@1sttakefilms]

😂😂😂

[@MoreSoju001]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mubeenabdullah2227]

James Harden over Dwayne Wade is BLASPHEMOUS ! Wade played on both sides of the court ! He was the facilitator, shot maker AND a defensive bulldog with his steals and high flying blocks ! (All NBA defense team 3 times) ... and i didn't even mention his 3 rings !

[@1000_Jeezai]

Absurd

[@holdmyweight3597]

Yall overrate Wade. He was great but he wasn’t better player prime for prime than Harden

[@deandrebankz__]

I don’t think it’s that blasphemous tbh. It’s a argument to be made lol

[@cyberft]

@@holdmyweight3597didn’t he lead his team to a championship?

[@myorder2]

Wade all day - harden folds in the spotlight when it comes count…

[@jalenanderson3111]

Wait when did the consensus top 3 2 guards stop being MJ, Kobe, D Wade?

[@SkBrezzy]

Yk I thought that same thing.

[@brab1242]

it didnt

[@kemarrmoore402]

Wade was never on A.i level..A.i is #3

[@JstnRbnsn]

Never did. I didn’t even know this was a debate. If someone wants to say AI, whatever I’m not going to argue but I disagree. But at worst that makes Wade 4th.

[@SubZer00fucksgiven]

It didn't! Unless rings and stats don't count😂 But seriously if tmac is a 2g and even Kobe said he's special like that... I'll take tmac 5

[@mallymelanin16]

Mccants forgot how dwade was before injury he was the 2nd best guard behind Kobe

[@Ryu_Uchiha23]

These are facts my guy

[@younglove3362]

Wade was never better than Tmac. Y'all stay looking at accolades.

[@thegolden807]

@@younglove3362huh ??? What did t Mac ever do … he was a scorer but all around player wade all day he play both sides and can score with the best of them fr

[@kevlamar6613]

I was a Boston fan just for the KG yrs. And im telling you from watching us beat Wade twice... he was the absolute scariest MF is the damn league to face in those playoff years he just had the worst team. Him, with the ball in his hands is frightening from the other sidelines. He was incredible all by himself with no help after shaq left.

[@PFNewsScienceResearch]

He just said yall stay looking at accolades. Without those chips, Wade was just a slasher and carried the ball most of his career.​@thegolden807

[@Viperboy16]

So Harden was a volume shooter but wasn’t winning no chip. But Dwade was scoring and playing defense being the best shot blocking guard at 6’4 and won a chip ….. man

[@capitanawesome44]

Its not close. Wade and AI i would take over Harden. Harden is a stat guy but Jerry West won and showed up. Frazier showed up big to win finals. Only Harden final he didnt show up.

[@samgunz1]

Harden ain't got no heart... that has to hurt his case.. you can't deny the numbers tho

[@Maal7432]

Harden overrated.

[@Dr.Tony.Cii.]

………..Shaq.

[@samgunz1]

@Dr.Tony.Cii. you mean 12ppg shaq from the 06 finals??

[@hard-to-handle]

Harden over Wade?? Hellllllllllll nawww

[@guapymg2815]

They forgetting how good he really was

[@justinjones9579]

I mean if you completely ignore the other half of the floor then Harden is better

[@StayTru101]

Harden more versatile and higher peaks

[@hard-to-handle]

Harden no defense an the biggest choke artist in history

[@snupedummy]

Only if prime harden had lebron shaq and the refs

[@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1]

I lost brain cells I didn’t even know I had to lose

[@jweezy2099]

Please make McCants read these comments for 10 minutes per episode

[@noyce.]

This has to be a segment fr. He on his Stephen A coke.

[@ItzL0s29]

Y’all don’t know more than an ex NBA player LMFAOOOO the fact y’all be thinking y’all do is crazy 😂😂😂

[@jweezy2099]

@@ItzL0s29 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@trvppsta]

@@ItzL0s29 that don’t mean shit. They all hoop he not the only one he just the only hater 😂

[@ItzL0s29]

@@trvppsta it means a lot lmaoo compared to us it means everything 😂 his opinion is his opinion brother THEY ASKED for EACH OTHER’s opinion

[@blazedup4208]

McCants logic- I dont use facts and stats for arguments. I use opinions and cuz i said so's😂

[@JBC33]

but also, "ArE wE tAlKiNg AbOuT hYpOtHeTiCaLs!?" anytime anyone else makes an argument whether or not they're actually using a hypothetical.

[@ChefDJ1689]

Man I was just about say this he doesn't care about stats resumes championships none but somehow ranks players based off of what

[@Andre_P-uv1lw]

Skill over strength Mcc 🐜 lol get ya head right. IQ over brute. DWade would torch you in any aspect of basketball.

[@MC....05]

If you don't have Dwyane Tyrone Wade Jr. in your Top 3 SGs of All Time, then you just get disregarded as a basketball player/fan...this is some pathetic stuff. Dwyane Wade clears Iverson and Harden by miles. 2 way Superstar.

[@rashawnlnr]

Mj, Kobe, Dwade, A.I., Clyde Drexler

[@lorenllbj88]

THIS

[@Bdog_45]

AI over harden crazy

[@newelldavis1858]

@@Bdog_45Why ?..Harden could never lead a team to the finals and get a game off an all time team like the Shaq/Kobe lakers ..guess u like the triple travel step back 3 and ghost defense Harden plays 😂..A.I all day

[@clarenceandersoniii9306]

What about Joe Dumars? Finals MVP, guarded Jordan the best, and two Championships. I'd take him over Harden.

[@Bdog_45]

@newelldavis1858 Every time somebody brings up iverson it's the same thing 2001 yall casual do know he played 15 seasons in the nba

[@ChrissClutch]

D Wade is the 3rd best SG of all time.

[@DpMoneybaggzHo310]

4th but definitely top 5

[@elijahthurston4000]

Definitely top 5 but 3-5 is debatable

[@ChampagneRi]

Yep. Mike, Kobe, Wade.

[@bossplayermfs5972]

Not he’s top five but Allen Iverson is the 3rd best SG of all time.

[@vant8293]

So we not gonna acknowledge AI..

[@emptytablegaming]

Hearing McCants support the hypotheticals because of his own shortcomings is nasty work 😂😂🍿🍿

[@montbrink4700]

He's a clown

[@Caleb-sl5vn]

😂😂 l

[@dubbzd8853]

Nasty work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@corneliusmcduffie4592]

Exactly... He's all about what ifs

[@ryanporter7400]

He's right about talent..... Who you got Emmit Smith or Barry Sanders?

[@double-a83]

A perfect example is Brandon Roy. Kobe Bryant said once he was one of the hardest players to guard but injuries ended his career

[@ArnB-hk4hn]

Terrible example. ( Though Roy moves the needle in conversations about society..)

[@dh1382]

He was never a star, that's different. These people are stars.

[@double-a83]

@dh1382 He Could of.. he's first 4 yrs he had better stats than Tracy Mcgrady and other super stars before he's injuries..

[@Ze_Moose]

Lauren Hill is better than D. Wade

[@newera5238]

Roy was that dude🔥🔥, so sad how his career was short lived

[@deandreporter2398]

He don't go by numbers because his own numbers were trash lmao 🤣

[@emaginetech4128]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dumbfounded that he is even on this shit

[@Crow_III]

Bruh, talking to Mccant is like talking to a goddamn brick wall lmao. He's just assuming EVERYTHING with hypotheticals and "what ifs". Gil is completely right on this take. - Mccant's argument is SO BAD. That's like me saying Linsanity is top 10 because he was cooking everyone for a month. Didn't you see his Talent? Didn't you see him cook Kobe and the Lakers? Mccant is talking pure hypotheticals. Saying resume is Subjective and don't matter when talking greatness makes no fking sense. Numbers are purely objective. Drose is NOT top 5 PG's because he wasn't able to do enough. TMAC over DWade at the 2-guard spot all-time is crazy. You can't just talk about a player's peak only. If that were the case, then Klay is one of the best players of all-time because he dropped 60 on 11 dribbles. Body of work matters.

[@gloryroad7452]

Your wrong 😂😂😂

[@Qayoh_Renzel]

​@@gloryroad7452 can you elaborate how? He's making good points to me

[@gloryroad7452]

@@Qayoh_Renzel I’m not putting Wade over nobody top 5 SG

[@hans9885]

PERFECT EXAMPLE BRO

[@jalenedley6795]

D wade averaged 36pts In his first finals 😂 would rather have 40pts average over 40 games or average 40 in the finals where it matters

[@newelldavis1858]

EXACTLY..these guys played in the League but since Kenyon is the only one who competed at the highest level ..there is no talk of winning ..just numbers and flip flopping on Resume etc

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

CLYDE DREXLER goddamn the disrespect.

[@sirnamejames1992]

Thank youuuu

[@ReverendSam1]

Ppl definitely tend to forget a/b '90 & '92 when Drexler led Portland to the finals 😐!!

[@OfficialSmuvYSwaVaY]

Top 5? No

[@iamrysheem]

@@OfficialSmuvYSwaVaYi saw a clip of him block shaq and jordan shot back to back a couple of times in an all star game. I dont know i feel he should be talked about more. He definitely was different.

[@OfficialSmuvYSwaVaY]

@@iamrysheem oh for sure he was different dawg, I think we take it as a slight or disrespect when someone ain’t mentioned in the top 5 , it don’t mean they not great

[@WhereTheBASShasNoName]

T-Mac from 2001-2005 (ORL and HOU) was LEGENDARY. After that is when injuries happened, therefore his career was short lived and he just kinda hung around from 2006 to 2013

[@VVzxc]

Never passed the first round lol. Stfu , empty stats and highlights.

[@WhereTheBASShasNoName]

@@VVzxc And how old are you, 12? Yeah I own your ass

[@WhereTheBASShasNoName]

@@VVzxc True, but he was fun to watch in his prime, despite not having any championships. He was a good example of a “swingman.” Athletic, CASH from midrange

[@gflyreota]

Bro don’t forget rocket TMac

[@Fleighs]

“My Aunt could’ve been my uncle 🤓” ass debate

[@awakeneddrybones7777]

Lmao right! 😂

[@redpillrich]

Low IQ convo. This the re knuckleheads podcast, not Q and D Miles

[@GGSteez]

Mccants : “Resumes are subjective”😭😭 bro what

[@kelleyeidem667]

McCants's opinion is whatever he wants it to be depending on whatever suits his stupidity at any given moment.

[@DJSpotG]

Yeah that didn’t even make sense and he knew it that’s why he said it like that he don’t care what others think weird logic

[@tdo.harlem7245]

He made he has no resume

[@torreslol9171]

They actually are bro imagine if TMac played for the spurs all his career he would have like 5 chips cause he would get coached well and will be rested, he might’ve avoided that back injury, but if you wanna forget the other factors of a team game that’s up to yall

[@torreslol9171]

Elgin Baylor never won a chip but his talent and stats prove he was one of the greatest of all time but since his team kept losing to the Celtics every year no one puts him in the conversation, name me one of Wilt’s teammates on the warriors and their stats, I have never seen anyone solely carry a team to a chip other than Kobe Bryant in 2009 in 2010 gasol helped out more that finals, Jordan had pippen and Rodman and coach Phill with pippen on a low paying contract cause of Kukoc and Rodman, role players are extremely significant in the NBA we can’t dismiss players when rating them all individually because of their “resume” look at where, when and with WHO they played with that made them successful

[@flexermc4333]

Allen Iverson is Top 5 SG and it ain't even a debate. MJ,Kobe,Wade,Harden,AI

[@howarddickersonjr.6994]

A.I. is not better than Jerry West as a 2 guard! No way

[@flexermc4333]

​@@howarddickersonjr.6994 west is a point guard

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

Harden is not top 5 he's one of my favorite but not top 5

[@Sticktothemodels]

Harden is 3rd. Wade was great but Harden up there with Kobe Mike and Wilt on offense

[@jmoneyforlife3]

@@Kobe8DaGreat24are u crazy

[@1ksotoxic]

Didn’t get past 0:26 stop playing with Dwade before y’all lose credibility

[@Luvmysippi]

McCants logic is always full of what if's.

[@miyagifatghost2684]

Thats an athlete at the end of the night when no one is around. Is FULL of regret he replays every convo every play etc as to why it didnt pan out how it should. And if you really live it who's to say he wrong. But i can feel the regret i understand it also

[@Idcaboutyourfeelings24]

Definitely foreshadowing how he feels about himself. Gotta make content I guess.

[@JBC33]

He's sub 70 IQ. Too dumb to even realize he's a walking contradiction. He's the first to say "ArE wE tAlKiNg AbOuT hYpOtHeTiCaLs!?" but the same guy that uses them all the time to try and make his gibberish points. Dude is almost 40yrs old acting like a 13yr old kid who just went through puberty. He's washed out of the league because he's brain is broken.

[@mauricelassiter8748]

Facts lol

[@klssplash]

This man said James harden over d wade why is he on the show

[@shoooooosh2560]

Hot take: D Wades first chip puts him above A.I, He was a Generational Slasher before his injuries.

[@sickkicksalwaysglobal1433]

Allen Iverson WITH D WADES CAST HAS 4-6 RINGS 😂

[@shoooooosh2560]

​@@sickkicksalwaysglobal1433 AI retired 2010 before wade played with anyone of substance and personally i dont think AI could win more than 1 with an old shaq, old mourning and an old gary payton

[@sickkicksalwaysglobal1433]

@shoooooosh2560 Uh He Won RINGS With A PRIME LEBRON AND BOSH AND A OLD RAY ALLEN That Heat Team Was Deep Wade 1st Ring

[@SmartPsychopat1]

AI is the better player,Wade is the greater player.

[@WADEPH33R3]

​ @sickkicksalwaysglobal1433 dwade first ring was in 2006 and he was playing with an old ass shaq who avged 13pts and 10 rebounds a game tf are you talking about

[@mattmorgan2534]

I literally feel all the more dumber for watching this argument!!

[@hakimmuhammad4090]

They arguing over an opinion trying to use facts lmao

[@gerryspencer1524]

😂😂😂

[@Keepitthorough24]

@@hakimmuhammad4090isn’t that every single Sports debate thou ?

[@hakimmuhammad4090]

@@Keepitthorough24 It is but the discourse nowadays is kinda crazy smh lol

[@jazzyboydaedae6606]

The Dwade disrespect is crazzy 😂😂😴😭

[@tayronduenas8544]

Top 3 SG 1.MJ 2.Kobe 3.Wade

[@shotarokaneda7525]

Mccants argues like he is eventually gonna slide his "whatcoulda been" ass name in the argument 😂

[@Judd-e2l]

100

[@joshquigley380]

He's gonna try to get into the hof talking bout I coulda been good if......

[@domdom2327]

He legit take every discussion personal like he talking about himself lol shit so sad

[@fredrickboseman8062]

True

[@chacreedaniel8128]

On God, Rashad talks like he's trying to convince himself to not add his name in any convo

[@dewdesi]

K mart been stopped talking he knew mccants was on some dumb shit😂

[@daweeza42]

Good point!!

[@SamuelMatthew-l6i]

Nah only offensively, no defense for harden

[@BeRealDale]

Did he say 6-0 in finals is a moment in time? Like he played 6 finals in a moment? McCants what you talking about brotha?

[@inside3807]

I swear McCants doesn’t even watch sports. He just be talking 😂😂😂😂😂. He be going 1 for every 50 on his takes.

[@tonyeasley3227]

I got Kmart grabbing his throat eventually pay attention. He had to move on the other side of the couch 😂

[@wth718]

McCant's refusal to consider stats, accolades, actual numbers, makes his arguments boil down whose game you like. Lenny Cook had the game all the tools when he was Lebron's HS rival. But what do his actual achievements show?

[@miyagifatghost2684]

Because he's in that category for his level. That like me bringing up my junior year of HS and How im Best ever because of it😂 thats that coulda shoulda woulda swag! I knew i wasnt D1 and tossed my jackets and trophies instantly because i didnt wanna be THAT GUY holding on its very sad

[@wth718]

​@@miyagifatghost2684Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing, but that's Gil's point - you can't just look at what they were at their "peak." You become great by sustained excellence. Flash-in-the-pans need not apply. 😂

[@ReverendSam1]

​@@wth718Who would u consider a "flash in the pan"🤔?? Every players productivity slips as they get older & I believe it's more a/b impact on other players......IMO 😐!!

[@flamingballsofsteel]

@@ReverendSam1Jeremy Lin? Michael Carter Williams, Hassan whiteside, plenty of players popped and fell off

[@datjewellboy]

Does better career mean better player? Is Robert Horry top 5? Playing on a better team doesn't make an individual player better than someone who never had the team to win or clashed with another great run happening simultaneously. I'd rather have pre injury Grant Hill than a lot of players. I'll take one year of a player averaging 30 over 10 years of a guy averaging 15. When discussing better player longevity means nothing. People mix up greatest and best and more talented.

[@DenzellMontray]

McCants Said On Another Episode, “We’re Not Doing Hypotheticals” Consistency Isn’t His Strong Suit

[@truthonly-]

Yeah he did. Wish they run tht clip

[@theonetrueking587]

It’s amazing how a 4 time scoring champion name isn’t mentioned, George Gervin, and these guys actually played in the league, they should hold their heads in shame for the disrespect 🙄🙄🙄

[@FBaned]

Facts

[@jaybuen9545]

💯 I was just about to post this. How the hell they forget this ?!

[@CarsonDATDUDE]

McCants so unreasonable. Like he swears he’s right and everyone else is wrong. And DWade??? That’s 3rd Greatest SG of all time

[@thazealot6557]

Give harden shaq or Lebron and bosh he wins also. D wade is top 7

[@CarsonDATDUDE]

Shaq wasn’t in his prime. D Wade was the best player on the team. Also if you wanna go there…. Take Shaq and Gasol away and Kobe top 7. So let’s not do that

[@nolimit_tdot]

@@thazealot6557harden is a notorious playoff choker and you tryna put him over a guy who averaged 36 in a finals😂

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@thazealot6557Hell no he couldn’t even win with Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook Dwight Howard

[@AK-fj8yo]

James Harden was clearly influenced by GILBERT ARENAS. I always thought he was Arenas 2.0 early in his career.

[@snupedummy]

No he said Paul pierce and manu

[@dalcow1101]

Way better passer

[@IMABUZ]

@@dalcow1101harden passing is basic passing . Harden is trash . Reg season player .

[@Tb-gz4qt]

@@IMABUZ Thats how i know you dont know shi about ball. You dont have to like Harden but he is undeniably the best passing SG ever, and the best combo guard ever. You need amazing passing to even sniff 7apg for a career.

[@Vastatio]

He talked about modeling his game after Ginobili a few times early in his career.

[@bigo8765]

The D Wade slander is crazy!

[@CashCave03]

Out of control i dont aupport that bullshit he doing with his son but cmon .. then again he was kinda disrespected even befoee that

[@kevinkamara1953]

Why is this a debate ??😂😂😂

[@FAT-MARV]

“He averaged 40 points for 40 games so you gotta put him ahead of D Wade”……………….😂😂 Come on man

[@LoyaltyOvaRoyalty1600]

I mean he had to average that, nobody else on his team could score fr

[@haneecamper3100]

Dwade also was great defensively and probably was the best shot blocker at the 2guard ever

[@robk6831]

George Gervin led the league in scoring as many times as Harden and he actually played defense.

[@terrancesimmons1]

D Wade carried his own team to a chip! He also was a key contributor for two more chips. He’s not greater than D Wade.

[@tavoali2972]

@@terrancesimmons1facts

[@lreez977]

How does McCants function as an adult? The way his logic works is very smooth-brained.

[@iquanwilliams4905]

That's what I be wondering

[@Kno28]

Mccants be arguing for his own short career.

[@bogusphone8000]

Greatness is high performance over extended periods. There are numerous high performers - amazing games, superb plays, outstanding highlights. Then there are the few that are great as they are in the elite "Top X" for decades. They maintain their performance despite injury, roadblocks, set backs, etc. Not only do they have the talent, they have the work ethic, dedication, and mental fortitude to continually go to the next level.

[@juwonroberts8622]

Point blank💯

[@_bassadd1ct_]

D Wade damn near top 3, the disrespect is insane

[@yopyopyopyop1]

mccants b hating on bron & dwade 😂😂😂

[@jvilmusic]

I just appreciate y’all showing T-Mac love and including him in the convo. Just shows how great he was even with Injuries.

[@fullmetal1766]

you can't be an all time great if you weren't even good enough to get out the first round

[@jvilmusic]

@@fullmetal1766 you can be an all time great. I watched every playoff series Tmac was in and trust me out of all the series he lost there was maybe 1 series where I felt like he could have done better But besides all that he always leveled up his playing in the playoffs. All his stats increased. He was just unfortunate with injuries and then before his injuries came Into play he had Grant Hill injured they entire time he was in Orlando and then in Houston on years they had a chance to contend Yao Ming was out with injury. He just was unfortunate. But even with all that he had a hell of a career and I had the pleasure of watching many games of his live and in person. T-mac is my all time favorite player.

[@remnant8898]

@@jvilmusic TMac has choked in almost every 1st round series he's played in. Its not just about overall stats, but those that come in critical moments. Dude has been Casper the Friendly Ghost in 4th quarters.

[@jvilmusic]

@@remnant8898 just not true.

[@remnant8898]

@@jvilmusic no, factual.

[@Tonio5100]

1. Mike 2. Kobe 3. Wade 4. West 5. AI (slightly biased) 6. Harden (if 5th won't argue) 7. Drexler 8. McGrady 9. Reggie 10. Ray Allen

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

McGrady was better passer and shooter than Clyde and could get that forward shit on posting and 10 rebs like Clyde whenever he wanted, too.

[@michaelmclean7747]

I'm taking Harden out for Klay

[@ReverendSam1]

​@@Shmuk-bn7efDrexler skill set led a team TWICE to the finals, how many for TMac 🤔??

[@Tonio5100]

@@Shmuk-bn7ef Clyde led his team to the finals TWICE and I don't think people account for that with averaging 20pts 7reb 6ast for his playoff career and has a ring as the 2nd best player on a title team in Houston...... I think Clyde gets severely overlooked in SG debates

[@ImDumbForReplyingBut]

When did iverson become a SG? I could have sworn he was the guy bringing the ball up n handling the ball

[@kytaem]

K Mart's analytical style is so different from his play style . I like hearing him talk

[@NickTeat2613]

Wade is a top 3 Shooting guard EVER

[@HakeemTheDream616]

Top 3 2 guard

[@topnotchce8021]

@@penndawg3534lol AI is not 3.

[@NicolasAlcalde]

​@@penndawg3534What exactly was AI better at than Wade? Not scoring. Not passing. Not rebounding. Not defense. Not winning. I'm wondering what it was. AI was my favorite player growing up but he's clearly not as good as Wade. This is the equivalent of Kobe fans saying he's better than LeBron even though the one thing he's better at is free throw shooting. AI was flashy and fun to watch, like Kobe. Neither have any tangible piece of evidence or rational argument that says they're the better players.

[@Dipset415]

@@topnotchce8021right homie on crack and everybody forgetting Clyde and Reggie 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@averybrown9502]

Never in the total HISTORY of NBA Basketball

[@stephandina]

Rashad would be the ultimate Karen at a PTA meeting lol

[@azelenovic3005]

Were really comparing a dude who has choked in the playoffs for his entire career vs a dude who has a finals mvp 3 years in the league. And all defensive team multiple times and 3 championships. What are we even discussing here???

[@Mdubkc]

That's what I don't get. They are overweighting offensive capability in the regular season vs playoff performance wins/championships and defensive capability. I would rate Dr J and Clyde Drexler over Harden easily.

[@sogravvyproductions4176]

​@@MdubkcEASILY

[@shawncain882]

Harden and Wade are 2 NBA SGs. You absolutely can compare 2 people who do the exact same job. Top all-time lists are subjective. As long as you submit something reasonable, nobody's personal preference should be questioned. Wade is the better all-around player because he's better on defense. But Harden's scoring and playmaking ability was elite, so that can carry a lot of weight for some people's preference. He's carried a lot of weak teams, made the playoffs every year, racked up numerous achievements and has career winning % of 65%, top 10 amongst all active players. The post-season and regular seasons are separated, with different stats, awards, and records. Winning championships is a TEAM accomplishment and shouldn't be the end all be all for top all-time list, if an individual player was elite statistically throughout their career Wade is always ranked ahead of Harden by most people. But don't act like Harden is just some bum who doesn't deserve to be mentioned amongst the best SGs of all-time

[@Mdubkc]

@@sogravvyproductions4176 faxxxxx

[@gdavid2214]

Wade played his whole career with fuck up knees. In taking wade over harden and tmac.

[@TwizzNC]

T Mac ,Brandon Roy ,Grant hill minus the injury could’ve definitely been top 10 players of all time

[@pianielmdk]

could've been not are. and that's the point, you can't work off hypotheticals

[@rayshunprince6388]

Bro Brandon Roy was scary fr🔥

[@clarenceandersoniii9306]

Also add Penny Hardaway to the list.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Top 10 at their position not all-time

[@Estakz]

Yao also need to be up there

[@Sldumas1983]

I’ve always heard MJ, Kobe, D Wade Jerry West in the top spots

[@FFGSLS407]

JW was a PG

[@williamadams9091]

@@Sldumas1983 ain't no Jerry West smh

[@Sldumas1983]

@@williamadams9091 So Kobe is a lie then is that what’s your telling me sir ? The high Arch is just like Jerry West don’t freaking tell me it ain’t when it is and other players have said this I understand there are other players similar but Kobe and MJ’s shooting style is similar to Jerry West. Good lord man I understand the game very well I’ve played it in college and I know how to study players.

[@Sldumas1983]

@@FFGSLS407 HE WAS A SHOOTING GURD AND POINT LOOK IT UP SIR

[@Sldumas1983]

@@williamadams9091 shooting guard/ point guard what’s the problem

[@dukemarquis]

McCants mad cuz Dwade was a better 2 than he was

[@silewis9396]

Why would he be mad about Wade being better and not Harden

[@rswaggz12]

Because he had to see prime D Wade and probably salty about it. He never had to play James

[@briscoebands3054]

@@rswaggz12dosent even make logical sense, there’s a million players let alone SGs better than him

[@sven4six]

everybody is a better 2 than he was

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

Peak me was a better all around shooting guard than McCants 😅😅 he had me in shooting and upper body strength that's literally it. Literally every time an episode pops up I think he's Al Harrington for a second or two.

[@ThePrivateryan]

Great cast by the way. 💯 I wish that I caught it live and was able to see the whole discussion. Both sides made good points and I feel like I could listen to both sides make them all day. I feel like Unfortunately they were discussing the same subject but from a different point of view so they could never win the argument or meet halfway until they realized that fact. Rashad was talking about how T Mack was dominant in his position while he played. Top tier, untouchable and his opponents like The Black Mamba, Kobe Bryant would be the first to admit that fact after playing against him for the years that T was in the N.B.A. Unfortunately again, the problem is that as great as Tracy was his career was cut short by injury so we will never know how great dude could have been if he stayed in the N.B.A and didn't have a career ending injury(s). So his pick was partially based on, I don't want to say make believe but hypothetical assumptions given what he had accomplished during his short career. Gilbert on the other hand is arguing about the fact that you can't say that someone is the G.O.A.T, no matter what the subject is about. Until they have a full career. A career including all the up's, all the downs and all the up's and the downs again. Basically he's saying that you can only gage an individuals greatness by looking at their body of work over a long career without making assumptions about the," could have beens', and the,' would have beens." I have to say that I agree with both sides because their arguments are legit from their points of view. I however will say that T Mack cannot be placed above Dwyane Wade with looking at them careerwise. But I can say that in a one on one match up in the gym or out in the park, I would probably put my money on Tracy McGrady because homeboy was a straight beast and would probably destroy D Wade when they were at their prime. Just my opinion as well and just like the G.O.A.T argument I think that M.J summed it up best by saying that we will never know who the true G.O.A.T is because the best of the best have historically played in different eras and against different opponents. With different rules, different accessories, doctors, coaches, medicine etc.

[@sparksup327]

Jordan, Kobe, Wade, AI & Jerry West for my top5. Clyde, Iceman, Ray Allen, Reggie & T-Mac or Harden for top10

[@jgreed5]

I’d take ray and Reggie over AI any day

[@Tuuufff]

For u 2 say Jerry west i know u a white guy....😂

[@jgreed5]

@@Tuuufff naw my homie from Hampton love west and he only 44. Not a white/black thing. West literally the face of the nba fam

[@sparksup327]

​@@Tuuufff Naw Ima nigga😂

[@sparksup327]

@@Tuuufff Naw Ima nigga😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[@EddieCane69]

The fact McCants said that’s it’s always a convo between choosing James Harden and D Wade is CRAZY because I never heard anybody but him have that conversation 😂😂😂

[@madballer101]

This always happens with Tmac. When discussing SGs everyone says no Tmac is a SF. Then when discussing SFs everyone says no he is a SG 🤦‍♂️ 😂

[@ReverendSam1]

He played more like a SG, when I think of SF they're usually two-way players & his "D" wasn't adequate enough for me...... just saying 🤔😐!!

[@greatest599]

He not top 7 in either position

[@slaverescuehound3440]

@@greatest599I agree he is a bigger playoff disappointment then harden

[@AkaHoodie]

Tmac was only a sf on the raptors

[@Tb-gz4qt]

@@slaverescuehound3440 Hows Harden a disappointment but his elimination game stats are more efficent than Kobe and Wade? The only reason Harden gets this hating narrative is cause his come up was the same time as Curry and GSW, and they made him the villain for fans to buy in on the rivalry.

[@treynorman9628]

“It doesn’t matter , it does matter, it doesn’t , it can’t , it has to” 😂😂😂😂

[@B00MR0ASt3D]

Why doesn’t Jerry west get the respect the other old heads do? Same people putting Bill, Wilt and Kareem in their top 5 Centers won’t even mention The Logo as a top SG

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

Cause white Only Stockton gets the respect People forget about guards Bob Sura, Rex Chapman, the list goes on. Kirilenko had better stats than Pippen in most categories.

[@ReverendSam1]

He played their position & similar places on the court, so they're not going to b objective..... IMO 🤔!!

[@borganfreeman]

​@@Shmuk-bn7ef You did not just mention Bobby Sura 😂. Bruhhhhhhhhhh

[@joejett5084]

You’re right but also wrong. West is known as a 2guard but really played PG most of his career in the nba. So now the question is why isn’t he mentioned among the greatest PGs? And if he’s not credited as a PG then Curry shouldn’t be either.

[@DiceGameBeatzDGE]

Man them dudes back then are not nearly as talented or skillful...

[@ck.standard]

Top 5 SG all-time is a helluva argument. After Mike & Kobe, it becomes tricky. Wade, AI, Harden, Ray, Drexler, Iceman

[@patitoduck123]

Manu

[@jodyprestigiacomojr8901]

​@@patitoduck123😂 😂 😂 you're kidding right?

[@patitoduck123]

@@jodyprestigiacomojr8901 manu top 10 easily

[@jmichael91]

@@patitoduck123Ill give you Top 10 but hes not top 5 thats a stretch

[@yeeviedelaguape]

Manu not even top 10 stop it

[@klino]

Rashad talks sometime without actually processing what he says… literally finishes his own argument😂

[@033723]

100... that Len Bias tangent

[@ReverendSam1]

What really is his POV..... can't figure him out!!

[@EppsFam1027]

The way I yelled “Fuck no” when the clip ended. McCant lost his mind. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@realproblem25]

MJ,Kobe,Dwade,AI, & Harden in that order

[@NBADRACO23]

Kobe, Dwade, Harden, AI, MJ

[@KevinHart-kl6wp]

Mj kobe tmac AI wade

[@vanslang5385]

Yup

[@vanslang5385]

MJ, Kobe, Wade, Iverson, Harden (I can only rate players I’ve seen; 1991 - present)

[@PorterPickUp]

Drexler? the Logo Jerry West?

[@kylecarmichael8187]

Finals MVP Flash was that Dude McCants, you're buggin.

[@ReverendSam1]

DWade was that dude, remember he had such a profound impact that LeBron wanted to "take his talents to South Beach"😐!! Just like Kd wanted to b apart of that fantastic voyage in the Bay area w/Steph.........impactful players truly 🤔!!

[@Ohhellnahhh-x9d]

“That’s why our conversations are different from the masses “ nah it’s the same conversations that be on ESPN and fox lol

[@LanardDuncan]

I don't agree with McCants but if Tmac and Dwade in the same draft, I'm picking Tmac, no hesitation!! I think everyone else would too!!

[@erichenderson844]

If McCants want to make excuses for TMac he has to do the same for DWade's injuries that played a part of why his numbers dropped as well.

[@noyce.]

Fr, dude cheesed the shit outta the refs at 06 they even had to do a "rule change" That alone could be considered changing the game. He's arguing t-mac over wade is insane, Wade a lock at 3

[@MrSlick999]

The fact that no one never mentions Drexler name when talking about the greatest SGs of all time is disrespectful

[@Ali_Khalifah]

Because his not top 5 that’s why!!!

[@cyberft]

You must be drawing social security.

[@bertneto9618]

is george gervin not considered a 2?

[@Gyjtrdfhj]

@@cyberftyou’ll be there one day buddy if you lucky

[@geoffwheeler2994]

The best are judged by playoff success….what has Harden ever done in the playoffs?

[@ToreyanJones]

1 finals appearance , 4 conference final appearances , and took the greatest team ever to game 7 , and if chris paul don’t get hurt they win that series and go on to win the championship , they were up 3-2 . ( coming from a lebron fan but a bigger fan of basketball .

[@iquanwilliams4905]

​@@ToreyanJonesno if harden don't miss all them 3s they win that game. He is a career playoff choker and there ain't no way around that

[@geoffwheeler2994]

@@ToreyanJones a handful of appearances and a bunch of ‘if this’ or ‘if that’ with nothing memorable to show for it. This is not the resume of a top 5 player of a position in the history of the NBA.

[@theimmaculated6480]

@@ToreyanJones😂😂😂😂

[@HomerunsamSOSA]

@@ToreyanJoneshow many blown leads ?

[@stephensurry3416]

Where the fuck is Jerry West?? (Not because he died earlier in the month)

[@squarefitness7424]

Crazy part is dwade led the heat 06 to a championship , were he average 36 in the finals mvp plus 3 time champion

[@umberto488]

Yeah...his finals was much better than any Kobe ever had. That playoff run period

[@ChrisBlackstock-fn6wc]

K mart still pissed at harden trade which resulted in his son getting traded lol

[@BigJa15]

Great point I forgot about that

[@iamjeremy4life]

😂😂😂. He is the one to hold grudges then he'll say he doesn't lol.

[@tanneradams1506]

His son wanted out of Houston for more playing time.

[@mikee3261]

@@tanneradams1506lol not true

[@tanneradams1506]

@@mikee3261 yes it is. You can even look it up. His son literally requested he be traded the offseason before he was traded

[@allthegoodonesweregone]

Harden has really played PG for the bulk of his prime. Why do we still include him in the SG debate? Definitely deserving of top 75!💯

[@curtiszyr]

You’re wrong, He’s a combo guard but he’s primarily a shooting guard most of his career. That’s why he’s one of the best guards of all time offensively he can do it all at an elite level.

[@thedon2161]

So has lebron but we keep him at SF

[@robk6831]

I'm not sure how he gets to skip over Jerry West who was more athletic and a better defender.

[@Fatta007]

​@@curtiszyry'all making up positions 😂😂 either he a point or SG

[@Regard-zt7gk]

Harden has 6 years of PG (most past his prime) and 9 years at SG. His last year at SG was the year the Rockets took GSW to 7 games

[@scottcooper444]

Harden over D-Wade doesn’t make any sense 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@kaseemburr4825]

I got Wade over harden but if we being honest Harden is a better overall player then Wade

[@demetriusjohnson684]

​@@kaseemburr4825fuck no

[@AdamMcnabb-g59]

@@kaseemburr4825no he’s not and I’m not gonna lie I fuck with harden but people seem to forget he was averaging 10-15 free throw attempts per game. And better overall player would mean he’s better offensively and defensively

[@kaseemburr4825]

@@AdamMcnabb-g59 are you gonna pretend that the NBA didn’t change the rules for this man to make it harder on him to score? Harden was a better offensive player as well as the better playmaker have 6 seasons averaging over 10 assists per game.

[@AdamMcnabb-g59]

@@kaseemburr4825 bro it don’t matter if he had all those assists he still don’t make his teammates better. And lol it’s funny you say change the rules for him when a majority of the time he wasn’t flopping and traveling.

[@rickchilds7922]

The way Kenyon said at the end, " no she will not".😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-zt4su4ku6n]

Like bro he know he capped out 😂 ain’t no way nobody putting Lauren hill over Whitney Houston, Patti labelle, Aretha Franklin, MJB etc

[@rickchilds7922]

@user-zt4su4ku6n is affirmed different when they compared his, Gil and Jennings career....

[@shinsukecorbin425]

⁠@@user-zt4su4ku6nidk about Whitney, but it’s definitely ppl that will put Lauren Hill over Patti and Aretha depending on what you debating

[@user-zt4su4ku6n]

@@shinsukecorbin425 debating who’s a better r&b artist.. idk I never heard nobody in my life say Lauren a better r&b artist than the names I named.. she ain’t got sht on Mary j Blige but that’s beside the point Rashad said she the best

[@noahjones3769]

I find it funny how right now Gil will say greatness is defined by how long you do it but when they talk about Steph and AI all they do is pivot to just 2001 and forget the other years. I just find it funny.

[@ReverendSam1]

That's because outside the '01 season A.i is forgettable 😐......IMO 🤔!!

[@Mochibooty_doki]

It’s a lot more than 01 so lemme break it down for you it’s about 10 all stars(should have been 11 but none in 99 lockout) 4 scoring titles, was better Kobe for the first 6 years, 3rd all time in ppg in playoffs history that’s a lot more than just 01 season

[@tbtoosmoove]

​@@Mochibooty_dokiyeah he 14 don't mind him

[@Girum8]

@@Mochibooty_dokithat still doesn’t compare to curry’s career and not to mention AI wasn’t very efficient

[@Mochibooty_doki]

@@Girum8 I’m a big fan of AI but I’m not delusional I don’t think he had a better career than Steph the topic was top 5 best sg I don’t know why that other guy brought up Steph

[@treysmith6255]

Harden will and never should be considered over D-Wade Ever‼️

[@StayTru101]

Tell me why?

[@PeterBagjuice]

​@@StayTru101playoff performance

[@waynedillworth7013]

@@StayTru101what’s has harden won and plz don’t make the excuse saying harden ain’t have any good player or hall of famers on his team

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

Harden had HOFer Paul, HOFer Westbrook, HOFer Howard, now HOFer Leonard

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

If Embiid wins just 1 title he's 1st ballot HOFer and 2 or more titles it's unanimous 1st ballot

[@earnestrobinson7564]

That was poetically and brilliantly stated by Gil: "we have to see the great of you, the fall of you and the bounce back"! Brilliantly structured statement.

[@TruuxKang]

Mccants is speaking solely on hypotheticals, you can’t predict what guys COULD do based on 2-3 years

[@ImportAl]

Jerry West was cold, 27-6-7, clutch shooter, defensive beast BUT ran into Bill Russell Celtics 6 damn times.

[@Leeyung2]

I think he was a point guard

[@JeewanthaBandara]

@@Leeyung2 No. Definitely a SG if not a combo guard. He played PG towards the end of his career.

[@Imichaelperry]

​@JeewanthaBandara according ball reference he played pg most of his career

[@Imichaelperry]

West was cold blooded but at pg he gets canceled out by Big O on the list to me at least

[@ImportAl]

@@Leeyung2 Iverson, Westbrook and Curry were "point guards". The greats aren't locked into Cousy distributors, '17 Harden had 29-8-11 assists playing both guard positions.

[@MarqG0430]

The reason why Hebron 5 is because he has held multiple roles as a player and excelled at them all He went from 6th man To lead man To 3option To lead point guard He has had 3 careers Scoring leader Assist leader Ultimate combo guard

[@jmoneyforlife3]

Correct

[@jmoneyforlife3]

But actually this makes him 3 all time

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

SheBron is the 15th best player in NBA history at any metric, 11th AT BEST. A million shortcomings

[@jmoneyforlife3]

@@IknowMoreThanYou HES TALKING ABOUT HARDEN

[@90shiphop3b]

Scoring leader with free throws and a million shots lol he can pass the ball I give em that top 10 ain't sniffing top 5 when you can't win but I see your point for having high in your list

[@karlmyles9097]

“ No she would not… “ 😂 This video ended perfectly 😂😂😂

[@nathandodson3220]

lol Rashad said resumé is subjective. The truth is that resumé is far to objective for his form of logic.

[@shinsukecorbin425]

Resumes can only be subjective if both parties are legit similar..28/12/6 or 25/14/8 is basically similar numbers and that’s the only time you can be subjective

[@tonibrojoker8978]

Wade is definitely #3... and as for his argument, when you talk like that it becomes situational, like her album was best his season was best, but her career and his career were not the best.

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

WTH did I watch a bunch of circular arguments going nowhere 😂😂

[@BuudSkl]

What advice do you have for me starting a podcast

[@rafaelmccary6009]

Rashad’s line of thinking is the reason Bill Walton is NBA top 50.

[@penkima4923]

If you're trying to refer to the 50th anniversary team, that was published in 1996, and Walton belongs on that list absolutely.

[@rafaelmccary6009]

@@penkima4923 please elaborate…I can agree with his induction into the basketball HOF, but his body of work as an NBA player…nope!

[@williamhumphrey6578]

@@rafaelmccary6009injuries hurt his career bad. His first four years he was 2x all nba, 2x all defense first team, 2x all star, mvp, and finals mvp

[@livingunashamed4869]

Jordan, Kobe, Wade, West, Iverson end of story

[@NotTheOneAtAll]

Jordan, Kobe, AI, Wade, Sam Jones....(hesd to head in playoffs Sam Jones was kryptonite for West)

[@Kizaru208]

6:40 I never talk resume. Cuz your resume trash 😂

[@kurty1927]

T-Mac never got out of the first round; and bragged about finally getting out being up 3-1 to get upset 4-3. I love T-Mac but my hand is forced. DWade may have had the refs in his pocket ‘06.. but what he did ona faulty knee since college is beyond understated and will be televised for any and all casuals in due time. Flash top 5 and not 5 ⚡️

[@mr.bread3circus]

Joe Dumars... NEVER gets mentioned. I'm 41, still hoop, played against some great comp over the years, pros included.... Joe fkn Dumars. I hated the Pistons as a kid BTW, lol.

[@ReverendSam1]

Joe D. was the Klay of his era, he was truly Isiah sidekick.....IMO 🤔!!

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@@ReverendSam1LMAO Klay is nothing like Dumars. Dumars won FMVP in 89 and was a far more complete and all-around player

[@ReverendSam1]

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 Joe D. definitely ran circles around the Lakers but that was because of Isiah & the attention he demanded!! Joe D. didn't have the 3 like Klay & size!!

[@blckndmld]

D wade continued his career with bad knees. How many championships does tracy have? We got a sample size of bo Jackson but he is not considered in the top 5.

[@coolbeans3414]

Already had knee injuries coming out of college people don’t know that he had hurt his other knee around his prime 🤷‍♂️😂dude played his WHOLE CAREER with bad knees and has that resume 🙌🙌🙌forsure top 3 💯

[@jasondawson8938]

What about the logo?

[@mpound97]

Most definitely. These dudes are slow...

[@Escobaz96]

They never watched him play, I thought that would be the shadow figure

[@donavangreen27]

With Rashad’s logic, Dion Waiters is a top 5 SG. Sustained greatness and resume matters. What did you do with your talent?