Gina Carano, Peer Pressure, Epstein's Fictional List, Wishing | Constellation, Episode 57

[@Sokka2Me]

Intro ✨ - 0:01 Banter 🗣️ - 0:28 Topic 1: Wishing Things to Existence 🤔💭 - 10:23 Topic 2: Peer Pressure 🍺🚬 45:57 Topic 3: Epstein’s Fictional List 🏝️🔞 - 1:30:25 Topic 4: Gina Carano - 2:04:21

[@jorr1313]

Fat has 9 calories per gram. Carbohydrates (sugar) have 4 calories per gram. Peanuts are mostly fat (oil). So, fewer peanuts, and more sugar would be fewer or equal calories. It makes sense.

[@mattkennedy13]

This man gets it fellas.

[@Sokka2Me]

As soon as Chris mentioned Spyro I KNEW he was gonna bring up Moneybags 😂

[@RealMisterDoge]

If you hired one of those 5x speed listening freaks to track Chris’s predictions you’d have the project caught up in a week

[@NJShadow]

This was seriously one of the best podcasts I've ever watched. I'm subscribed to Last Stand, etc., but I rarely ever consume the content anymore, but THIS was SOOO freaking good! That rant on losing everything for a new adventure hit home hard, lol.

[@johnbury1697]

Dumbledore definitely went to Epstein’s island.

[@TheWhitePenny]

I was screaming Gandolf. The guy had a strange attraction to small furry men named Hobbits.

[@Teepo_Ryu]

Cog is right about eating close to bed and getting dreams. Happens to me all the time.

[@stanco4ever]

Cheese and marshmallows close to bed do it for me. Better than ayahuasca

[@codyjones3456]

Ooo a political focused episode teased,im excited for that one

[@Thecomedian1243]

1:40:42 to that point of Mario, in Mario Power Tennis on the GameCube, if you play the “campaign” mode and win as Luigi, Mario hands him the trophy but steps on Luigi’s foot, kinda giving the vibe of “remember your place little brother.” 😂

[@ProfessionalWalrus32]

It’s the Muffster!

[@timlanegames]

Chris has a flip side to wishing things into existence. Like when Imagine Dragons covered Bastian at the game awards. Karma is a bitch.

[@Moeron86]

The epstien island topic has to be the funniest topic yet! Thanks guys

[@metalhead4life45]

I feel like Miss Piggy was probably at the Capital on January 6th.

[@FreshWitcher]

Did they mention Melissa Barrera being fired from Scream for her social media posts?

[@tendeant]

I loved it how Shane Gillis reacted on his firing and he went on Rogan and straight up says "I don't want to be known as that comedian who got cancelled and now I'm right-winger or whatever" [paraphrasing] and refused to play that victim so many right-winger comedians do who now only has one-trick, as Chris said.

[@LightShooters]

Colin keeps focusing on the pronoun joke that Gina made but keeps avoiding the fact that what broke the camel’s back and got her fired was comparing being republican to being a Jew in the holocaust.

[@MrHellawicked]

Yep. And there has been precedence for it. I remember years ago Megan Fox got fired because she compared Michael Bay to Hitler on the set. As soon as Spielberg heard the interview he ordered her fired. Whether it's right or wrong it's nothing new - compare yourself to a holocaust victim in Hollywood is always an instant fire.

[@Bingchirringg]

That wasn’t the tweet and you know it. He literally read it on the show. No one compared republicans to Jews. Reading comprehension is important.

[@LightShooters]

@@Bingchirringg Yes Gina did compare the treatment of Republicans in the U.S. to Jewish people during the Holocaust in an Instagram post. Do some research

[@wyliesalimeno9602]

Lol, yes she did. ​@Bingchirringg

[@gogglebrains]

1. Comparing =/= equating. To falsely equate two scenarios is to attempt to gloss over, obfuscate, or deny the distinctions between them (Gina Carano did no such thing). To compare and contrast two scenarios is a fundamental and essential process of moral critical thinking. 2. The comparison she made wasn't between treatment of Republicans in current-year with treatment of Jews at the height of the Holocaust, but rather with the period of escalating intolerance, anger, and polarization that preceded it. This actual relation is hard to dispute given that most political/social scientists (left, right, and center) agree that American politics have rapidly polarized over the last decade or so. 3. Regardless of the inelegance of her rhetoric, Carano's point was explicitly in opposition to growing intolerance. The unambiguous wrongness of racial/ethnic intolerance was a basic and unmistakable presupposition of her entire statement, making Disney's statements about her explicitly defamatory. 4. The Mandalorian himself tweeted around the same time comparing (even less thoughtfully) migrants detained in Obama-era detention facilities under an Obama-era policy for knowingly crossing the US border illegally, to Jews detained if not murdered in Holocaust concentration camps for the crime of their ethnicity. For this hamhanded analogy he faced no consequences whatsoever. 5. Other (much more expendable) Lucasfilm employees around the same time openly tweeted explicitly racially-hateful sentiments and faced no consequences whatsoever. The great irony is that in their rabid eagerness to assume such ludicrously uncharitable (if not outright incorrect) interpretations of her remarks, many (Disney included) unwittingly demonstrated Gina's point. Everyone is too ready and willing to hate each other these days, usually to make a big performance out of it, especially online, especially when it comes to politics. Instead maybe we could pump the brakes and practice giving the people we dislike or disagree with the benefit of the doubt.

[@TheWhitePenny]

Dude the Epstein section is pure gold!

[@jeremyzeeky3024]

I think you can explain September and October being 2 months off of what you would think they should be by King Julius and Augustus giving themselves a month. That's a factoid i heard once in highschool and I refuse to fact check

[@Loopez2284]

As someone who's just finished the Epstein documentary on Netflix, I'm stocked for this category 😂

[@JIPunisherIL]

My man is stocked up on knowledge!

[@Minednam]

I’m watching this in reverse.

[@dtanobo]

Gina said things that Disney didn't want her to say. They removed her which they are free to do. She can't be reinstated because she just had her contract terminated. Its a dumb lawsuit and if you think she's just, you're out of your minds. Colin, you don't have to go against these kinds of topics every chance you get, especially when you know Disney had every right to fire her if they wanted to. They warned her, she continued and got her contract terminated. There's not much more to it.

[@Incinerate06]

While I agree with you, you seem to have more information about the behind-the-scenes dealings than have ever been publicly disclosed. Would you mind citing your sources?

[@dtanobo]

@@Incinerate06 I can't link documents here but deadline wrote about how she wasn't fired, her contract wasn't renewed. So not necessarily terminated but not renewed which makes the case even easier for Disney as they had no legal obligation to continue working with her. If that is what you were asking.

[@Incinerate06]

@@dtanobo that makes sense, I just haven’t ever found information on the warnings you mentioned - I’ll peep the article. Thank you! I promise I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m just working on an essay and looking for any hard to find source I can get my hands on.

[@dtanobo]

@@Incinerate06 All good man! I get it I mostly remember seeing the news from a podcast of someone pretty informed with sources but the information of the lack of contract renewal I got from Deadline itself. I just remember that she was informed from prior comments to take it easy and then she posted the holocaust picture and that's when they cut her off.

[@chris9206]

Ask yourself a question. Would Denzel or Stallone do what Gina said? No they wouldn't have. Then ask yourself another question. Did James Gunn get out of bounds under Disney? No he didn't but Roseanne did, which Ginna saw that dumb Internet BS unfold before her own remarks.

[@matthewlee4834]

Chris sounds like he would be such a cool uncle to have

[@ChicoDusty]

yeah but he dosen't find farts funny

[@BDreGaming]

Chris talking about dating "I was the first one to enter that space". OH!!

[@KunaX3]

The man known as the ninja turtle 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@DanXcel]

I love when Colin brings the spicy topics

[@jeffsmith3818]

I gotta admit, sometimes I read the topics and ask myself, "am I gonna enjoy this?" I sure did.

[@ChicoDusty]

I'm so happy to hear the Collin finally took his wife to Cracker Barrel !

[@jizzledoops6789]

Colin says he does his research on JK Rowling and Gina Carano but it really doesn't feel like it lol

[@seventhamendmentguy6681]

It’s kind of insane he’s a history buff but since you can’t boil the J.K. Rowling situation down to one sentence, it’s a nothingburger. It’s like saying “you’re only racist if you’re in the KKK”Bigotry can be a lot more nuanced than that, and it usually is. Granted he probably has a certain point of view on this stuff after being unfairly maligned by a lot of Games Media for so long, but it’s growing into a pretty big blind spot imo

[@Olie986]

@@seventhamendmentguy6681 off topic, but why is nothingburger a saying?

[@DrTurdsley]

He definitely doesn't.

[@seventhamendmentguy6681]

@@Olie986lol honestly unsure where it came from.

[@Appl_Jax]

Seems like their entire opinion on Gina was on her two tweets and didn't factor in any of the other things that was revealed to have happened. Like the whole struggle session thing, I would have loved to hear Colin's thoughts on that part but I don't think it was even on their radars...

[@chriswinslow8969]

2:40:39 Important to keep in mind that Disney/Marvel didn't hire James Gunn back because they looked at the tweets again and had a more rational take... The hired him back because literally the entire cast of Guardians 3 quit the production within like 48 hours of the announcement. Lmao the change of heart doesn't feel so generous when you realize they had a $100,000,000+ gun to their head.

[@chris9206]

It's apples and oranges. Gina saw the tit for tat that happened between Roseanne jumping the gun and part of 4chan wanting to cancel Gunn over anything. The group on 4chan wanted to take out a Liberal under the Disney umbrella because Disney let go Roseanne for being too cringey. Going after James Gunn is like going after Clive Barker, James Carpenter, George Romero, and Wes Craven.

[@mikelanter3856]

It's an interesting question of wether God cares for the reasons people do good. I had it explained to me this way: there is a verse in the Bible that talks about a man who prays where everyone can see him and another who prays in secret only to God. It was explained that in both situations both men got what they wanted the man got the praise from the people who saw him praying and the man who prayed in secret only to God received the praise of God. I believe God uses evil men who do good for the wrong reasons just as he uses those who's hearts are in the right place.

[@JaK2882]

Whoa!

[@Shrewdy1]

It's Peanut Butter Stelly Time

[@FreshKitty]

You've convinced me to make a PB&J

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

With the Daegster! *Dont tell Colin 🤫🤣

[@legofreak20]

​@benjaminamouroux8395 Yeah, this is now an obligatory addition to peanut butter stelly time comments.

[@benjaminamouroux8395]

@@legofreak20 glad you agree. Gonna make Colin wanna 🪦. Daegster is a full go!😂👊🏽

[@dark_taco]

As a history buff Colin should look into the *Phantom time Hypothesis* 😊

[@Xristophero]

Colin, new sub here. Sorry for personal inject, sometimes dreams aren’t dreams. I teach my students that dreams can be one of three varieties: 1) the spirit/essence/soul of the human vessel is able to perceive eternity once the senses of the flesh are inactivated (weapons of mass distraction, man!) 2) late night Taco Bell forces the body to work (digestion) during the week hours when consciousness cannot regulate mental activity 3) waking anxieties feed over and govern wee hour mental activity It sounds crazy, but I have had dreams that are “prophetic” in nature, with witnesses to boot! You’re an insightful dude who undoubtedly has a spiritual calling. I won’t proselytize, but I see it dude! One of the reasons I listen to ya!!!

[@Moeron86]

Now im craving more content about fictional characters in horrible real life situations 😅

[@levicivjan593]

Colin, on Freud, it is not personal because for Freud we are dealing with the subject, not the self. There is no interpretation of dreams without the subject...

[@Splathew]

I would be down for a full episode on the topic of dreams

[@battlep0t]

Chris: "Starts a section on Epstein talking about Moneybags from Spyro" Where is this analogy going lol

[@PlayLaughLogan]

I really thought at first glance they somehow got Gina herself to come on and one of the topics was just gonna be a mini interview or something 😂😂

[@ScaryPeet]

The IT clown is definitely hiding on that island.

[@ChichiNaka]

Not sure that was anyones problem with Gina, this feels like the "nobody can point to anything JK rowling has ever done blahblah" thing

[@chris9206]

I like Gina but she played with fire and got burned. There are a lot of Conservatives in Holloywood like Denzel and Clint Eastwood but she had no big star power behind her. At the same time she isn't a comedian.

[@rd_2113]

I am also really really tired lately and the dream I always have is that I am late to my hockey game and can't get dressed in my goalie gear on time. That or the famous dream where it's exam day and I didn't attend any class the whole semester.

[@TyranBatten]

I knew Bert was up to some shady stuff

[@dkjphills79]

I have a few names for the island. Mr Burns, Zordon from power rangers, the dad from small wonder, Steve urgle, and Mark summers.

[@ViciousRead]

“…and may God have mercy on your soul.” 😂

[@kjer2540]

Great show Zers! 😂

[@MaNA_tW]

Obviously, if it's a bad school district, the teachers are going to make more money. They need a reason to be there. Otherwise you wouldn't have anyone willing to do it.

[@RealMisterDoge]

That’s a good point $100k+ for a librarian in the 90s is still insane to me in a world where my admittedly underpaid teachers were making around $40k about a decade ago

[@lizurd]

I fucking love this episode

[@DrTurdsley]

Gina wasn't fired, her expired contract simply wasn't renewed.

[@gregmoose6531]

man i love Cog. guy is such a beacon of positivity and good vibes

[@TroubleshootGamingMeds]

I volunteer as tribute to scrub the episodes for data!

[@jaredstorm1862]

Here for the peanut butter talk.

[@DoublexCoke]

Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know to what capacity, or the involvement, but I am sorry to say that its been reported the Squid Kids ARE on that list.

[@Hotsauceonmy]

Gina Carano just seems like an obnoxious co-worker honestly. Awful taste in memes and leans into the anti-woke nonsense

[@FreshWitcher]

Terrible actress as well

[@OomnyRocks]

I farted and I wish I had not. Hey, how are there comments on here from 9 days ago, but it says the episode is 1 day old?

[@scottieb2943]

Captain Hook and Barney the dino

[@danbeaman1115]

HOW CAN IT BE?!?! 😂😂

[@Solid_Duff]

We need Micah back, I miss her wild takes.

[@JandocTV]

There is a big difference between comedians and actors. So the conversation talking about Gina Carano just going out and work like Shane Gillis is difficult to compare equally. Movies or TV shows are made up of multiple people, while people are going to see Shane’s live stand up. Rosanne show is a closer comparison, but people gotta keep in mind live stand up compared to film. Good conversation though.

[@bretttheillustrator]

its a social media post. ppl need to get over themselves.

[@chris9206]

So true as it's a difference between a comedian and an actor. Also it needs to be mentioned that Gina is a low level actor, which you wouldn't have Stallone or Denzel do what she did.

[@chris9206]

​@@bretttheillustratorYes and no. The Internet overall needs to chill the hell out. Also people need to think before Tweeting along with not living on the Internet.

[@grashoprsmith]

"Dorf"❤

[@clashclay]

Great stelly opening!

[@whitediggity]

We needed Jaffe on a couple of these topics.

[@Bingchirringg]

He’d spend the three hours calling Gina Corano racist because reasons.

[@KingKarrot]

Charlie Brown 😭😭😭

[@evansimon1065]

You know I’ve followed Collin for more than a decade now. And I’ve seen him grow a lot in that time. I do hope he grows with his opinions of trans people one day though. Saying they “aren’t normal” or that they can’t be seen as women is just really disheartening as someone who has struggled with my own gender identity. What is normal is relative and no one is asking him to be attracted to penis

[@RFNY315]

I think you’ve been extremely misled, if you think that would be growing. If he said that “trans” women were actual women, that would be not only wrong/untrue, he would be regressing. That’s fact. At this point in society, Acknowledging fact and reality is growing.

[@evansimon1065]

@@RFNY315 I don’t know how anyone with a pinhead profile picture could believe this. Not even trying to be a jerk. That would be like someone with a catboy profile picture saying the exact same thing. It’s breaking my brain on a spiritual level

[@RFNY315]

@@evansimon1065A- it’s just a profile picture, who cares. B- Almost the entire world population believed this until about a few years ago. And currently most people still do. If you think that “trans” women, are actual women, yes, your brain truly is broke.

[@Michael-rv5ib]

@@RFNY315 people would rather live in a fantasy land than face the facts. Anything to feel special I guess. Ironically they’ll be the first to call others science deniers. They have completely destroyed biology.

[@Bingchirringg]

If you were not born a man, sorry you’ll never be one of us. That works on both sides of the coin.

[@candletv6591]

Can we bench Dagan for a couple episodes, please.? Lol

[@appleipodtouch2g]

All Chris does is dismiss leftists while pointing out extreme right wing edge cases and saying “but dat too dat too!” Meanwhile leftist extremism is actually extremely common and comprises of a significant percentage of the population. The power structure in our cultural institutions are overwhelmingly leftist and influential to our society. Chris just is like “ehhhhhhhhhhh it’s overblown”. Thanks for checking him on that Colin.

[@jasonspades7775]

What crimes have these extreme leftist committed?

[@chris9206]

It is overblown though. Literally what you're hearing on this podcast is what real people think not various sections of what the Internet thinks. At the same time you're hearing different generations talking within the same space around the US like how Philly is different than New York City. If you really believe that then you just ignored Chris without listening to him in general.

[@matthewlee4834]

STELLLAAAAA

[@Saber_of_Truth]

Weird christ take regarding getting “cancelled”. Sounds like a lot of rationalizing something thats stupid in the first place. Saying it is what it is is how you end up with hosts getting fired for milquetoast jokes

[@franchutekikito6920]

Raygun with a really sad take on Gina Carano, very disappointing for a dude who is supposed to give his honest opinion how can we trust that's your opinion and not just trying to keep your job.

[@chris9206]

Why? Actors do represent the company. Gina is a likeable low level actor that jumped the gun. If you think Stallone or Denzel would do the same as Gina then you would be in the wrong.

[@arjungrewal3293]

COG always makin me smile when nothin else can🫡

[@jasonspades7775]

If you work for a big corporation you can't say or do what you want, especially Disney.