Chess Speed Run 48: Play Too Passive and Pay The Price

[@stephenl7048]

His account has been closed for cheating. Looking at his games history, this is long overdue.

[@DrMattBug]

Magnus level precision and foresight from the opponent, really not human at thislevel.

[@battlecrushr1]

Just checked his account and he’s very suspicious. Won 80% of rapid games in the last year with consistent 95% accuracy play.

[@planahath]

It sucks playing against these cheaters. Even in 5 minute games I encounter them every so often but there are much more of them in the longer time limits. One tell tale sign is that they don't move immediately for obvious re-captures etc.

[@dannyshaw4057]

I have to be honest, I am moving more toward Kramnik these days (although obviously a much much lower level) I'll play something unusual that I have been trying to learn from a course and within seconds the perfect reply comes back. People don't need to cheat on every move, using an engine once or twice in a game is enough to shift the balance. The problem is also once you have the idea in your head that your opponent might be getting some help, that is enough to totally throw you off. It pains me to be so cynical because I really like the people who play chess, whether they are 800 elo, or 2800 if you've sat down and spent some time on this wonderful game, you deserve to be able to enjoy it.

[@danjeory3659]

100% agree. Intermittent engine use during games is the real killer. I bet it's rife.

[@marcrob100]

Yes agree. Having an engine used against you damages your learning too. Because you can't learn the strategies to beat a human player. They just don't work.

[@AMatterOfTechnique]

The opponent is 1500 blitz with 3w 4l but having more time helps as he is 2200 in rapid with 100w 23l! We need more opponents like Blair :)

[@sporegazm]

looked at his account. Extremely suspicious strength and accuracy overall. How does someone who has 4 losses and 3 wins at blitz(at 1700...dropping to 1500s)...amass an average of 90-95% accuracy over 125 rapid games...winning 80% of them? Newer account. Very suspicious

[@JeffPHamm]

Good to see you putting up more vids again. Enjoying them immensely, so keep 'em coming! Being a long-time (but poor) Dutch player, I've learned heaps from you and might even be improving a wee bit despite my aged brain. I thought Qb6 was a fairly standard idea of just interfering with your developing your Queen's Bishop by threating your b pawn (but who cares about pawns?), so while it was the top computer choice it seemed to me like he might have found it even if for the wrong reason. But, looking at the comments below it appears your suspicions were correct, and his account has been closed for cheating. A shame, as this line can lead to such fun and interesting games when played by actual chess players, as you've shown before.

[@danjeory3659]

Except Simon instantly knew it wasn't a very human move and was ultimately proved right. I guess your instincts become pretty well honed after 30 years playing top-level tournament chess... That's the thing about computer moves. They often appear 'normal' after the fact.

[@JeffPHamm]

@@danjeory3659 Yes, I should have said, Simon's recognition reflects his far higher experience and understanding. I didn't even consider the move as worth remarking upon until Simon says his alarm bells started ringing and said "why would you play Qb6?", which is what made me think the above. I didn't mean to suggest he was wrong (as it has been shown he wasn't after all), only was offering a possible reason why someone might stumble upon that particular move. And most likely, if someone made the choice for the reason I suggested, there would be flaws in that plan that Simon would have eventually exploited.

[@harveybrant3352]

It's certainly suspicious, especially coming from a new account. 89% accuracy means nothing on its own. I sometimes even get those sort of scores and higher in my own games, and I'm rubbish, but this was a very sharp and challenging game against a grandmaster. It's one thing getting high accuracy when playing familiar lines against similarly low rated opponents, or even not very sharp lines, but in a game like that one it would be very difficult to get high accuracy. Just a correction though - that a5 move you mentioned, the computer gave it a tick, which only means means a good move, not the best. *Edit - I've just checked the account and my opinion is that he is 100% definitely a cheater.*

[@MurrayHerts]

Opponent only made their account in the past week and has played only 100 or so games, they also have a win against an account closed for cheating so.. most likely a cheater - was an interesting game either way though

[@stoutlager6325]

He's banned now. He'd played 150 games before com finally shut him down.

[@MurrayHerts]

@@stoutlager6325 thanks, yeah they must have been banned within a few hours of Simon posting this video

[@shahmatsimplex4144]

Just call me Krammers 😂😂 LOL !!

[@danjeory3659]

and yet, proved right. Maybe Krammers is too...

[@ndmb6333]

Better call Kramnik

[@MatthieuSCHREK]

I love watching longer games ( blitz isn't great for improving in my opinion ). This was nice and instructive, although I don't play 1.d4. I would love to see some 1.e4 or even 1.c4 some day ! Thank you a lot for sharing videos, and taking time to explain your thoughts.

[@SteffenRoller]

animalc5 "Closed: Fair Play"

[@Sons_Brad_Dalton]

Amazing game. Still in your corner Ginger Gm 🙌🏼

[@jasonparker6138]

Now we do the procedure.

[@milkyBK370]

Give Kramnik a ring and report this guy

[@GrouperGames]

Does anybody else, after watching Simon Williams speed runs, start hearing his voice when you're playing your own games?

[@josketobben]

Many ducks were fucked, yes

[@financefiction3946]

Not only that, Ive watched 4 seasons of Peep Show this week and I think its all turned me a bit british

[@simplysh27]

"And my opponent, has lashed out with f5"

[@jms4406]

This yellow warbler was famished...been watching since 2013

[@brunocalver2968]

Funny, I had just rewatched your immortal game in Iceland and we get this... love your content and chess style

[@nickburggraaf3977]

That was a beauty!

[@meb11g16]

Interesting Game, Simon!

[@daemons7703]

Please sir explain what is a "dee vee daey"?

[@wce-tube]

If your question is not a joke, the answer is this: dee vee daey ia a DVD. He used to sell chess courses on DVD disks. Old men's stuff😂

[@williamh694]

If you play the slav, you should know about the Boor attack, in which case you know that Qb6 is the best response. I'm not defending this particular player, but if Black does play Qb6, immediate accusations of cheating are premature.

[@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579]

Your opponent played great chess for the time control. And I still remember your game of the year in that opening!

[@zzashkittyzzonna2474]

I did not know that f3 can be played on move 5

[@JB_inks]

Simon, even though this guy may well have been a cheater, it was still a very instructive game so please keep posting videos

[@wce-tube]

he was a cheater, have been already blocked

[@wce-tube]

he was a cheater, have been already blocked

[@Gretchaninov]

It sucks that the guy cheated, which he clearly did. Only really one inaccurate move - Ng4, which might have been a mistake and he meant to play Bg4, one of the top moves. Cheaters sometimes turn the engine on abruptly at a certain point, but his accuracy was very high the whole time. Anyway, the analysis was still really good - seeing GMs get outplayed can still be really educational. Not so much that Simon played badly as he underestimated his opponent! The paranoia about cheaters is justified since they're this rampant. Harsher punishments are needed...

[@aidansmith6464]

I always lose with the queen pawn opening.So i hope you win? or else i won't dye my hair ginger and drink a full bottle of whiskey.

[@benjaminjoseph4403]

I played this guy and immediately knew he was cheating. Edit: just got a message that he was cheating. His account has been closed.

[@DaveParkerNZ66]

Good character to not cast nasturtiums.

[@iceicebaby6980]

There are only 39,873,078 cheaters online. Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[@SebastianBohn]

It’s never too late for a nice bongcloud. Interesting game!

[@robertmauersberger953]

yeah yeah a 5 instantly extremely suspicious

[@alexandershorse9021]

Kramnik’s smurf account…

[@notgodzod]

I'm not a mathematician but I believe the probability that an infinite amount of monkeys typing for eternity would produce the entire works of Shakespeare is 1, i.e., a certainty.

[@roqsteady5290]

In that case an infinite number of copies would be written unerringly by an infinite number of monkeys on their first try. Also an infinite number of almost perfect copies with “glorious son of York” mistyped as “glorious sun of York”… and so on.

[@notgodzod]

@@roqsteady5290 indeed!

[@jakev1579]

You can't win against cheaters but, you can get em banned 😠

[@JimmyBillyDawnie]

I don't know if Simon reads comments but I've given up waiting for any more Twitch streaming and canx subscription. Love your content but come on man.

[@KF1]

These computer opponents make for entertaining games. Great play by you as well

[@hoseinmohammad4281]

❤❤

[@chloegreyson2228]

Smells like a cheat. But i still enjoy your videos

[@giorgibliadze1151]

Thank you❤ thank you🎉

[@stoutlager6325]

I've never mouse slipped a genius move. I have mouse slipped a move that kind of worked but it wasn't actually good or anything special, just an elaborate way to trade pieces starting with a temporary sacrifice.

[@only1jones2]

Deevaydee

[@MaxWright7]

How does he know what the computers top choice is?

[@zokisvasta]

He mentions that he has a course on this exact opening 5 seconds before they play Qb6.

[@raphaelhudson]

In general people who are over 2000 and no title are sus and should be looked at closely.

[@raphaelhudson]

Can you start a 3 0 min speed run? Way less cheaters in that increment. Or one on lichess, almost no cheaters on lichess

[@christopherwatts5977]

Yes he is a cheater.

[@sethdhanson]

Just checked his account. Photo of him kissing someone who clearly isn’t his wife. Definite cheater.

[@poogapooga3176]

If you didn’t know the theory, you should have asked your opponent!

[@BottleOfCoke]

Sus..

[@brianbaird5323]

Not learning anything from you.....GM really?!?!

[@oraz.]

First game was pretty sus

[@JCivX]

It's a big mistake to name the account as "GingerGM Speedrun". I think entices even more cheating than what you wouls usually encounter

[@dearthwood]

It's more just that the account is 2200 rapid. That rating range will have a high percentage of cheaters.

[@danjeory3659]

I'll say it again. It's like they've set your account only to play accounts that have been flagged as sus by other users but haven't been investigated yet. Well sus behaviour from the admins. Other streamers only seem to run into one or two cheats per speedrun. You seem to get them every other game.

[@lukeedward9748]

Ginger GM we all love u here but for the love of god stop calling out anyone and everyone lower rated that beats you as a potential cheat!!!! Have some damn humility man.

[@talentedgambler7327]

He’s faced a huge amount of cheaters on this account to be fair, it’s not baseless accusations

[@FoxenPiano]

In all fairness, this definitely seems to be the case with this account. I think this account will be closed before long.

[@harveybrant3352]

Although I'm as disgusted with all the unfounded accusations made by Kramnik as anyone, cheating is a big problem. It stopped me from playing Daily chess because once you reach a certain rating (around 1800) you're meeting cheaters all the time and when you're putting as much time and effort into each move as I did, life becomes too short to waste on trying to beat engines. Luckily I'm nowhere near that rating in rapid, so I don't encounter them that often, and when I do it's of little consequence. In this instance though check the account and I think you will see that Simon has a point.

[@only1jones2]

@lukeedward9748 they are not the only factors GingerGM considers... it's the cumulative evidence including things like the timing of the moves and the degree to which they are non-human... he will understand the difference between how computers and humans play better than anyone in the comments here. In my opinion, he was quite gracious in giving the benefit of the doubt. Let's see whether this opp's account gets closed down.

[@Agirmetal]

The opponent here is a cheat which means you are a donk