Gino Yu - What is Enlightenment?

Enlightenment is the claimed higher mental states that characterize various Eastern religious and philosophical traditions. Such enlightenment is usually achieved through kinds of meditative practices. While there is no doubt that deep and protracted mediation can alter normal conscious states, is there any real reach to ultimate reality?
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[@frankyang]

What he is describing is only the half way stage towards enlightenment. You can actually have thoughts while still present after you dissolve the thinker and thoughts stop becoming self referential. There’s ultimately no distinction between thoughts and presence, sight, sound, body sensations etc. all are luminous appearances with no substance. Emptiness is form and form is emptiness. That’s non-duality. Reifying Presence is actually no different than reifying thoughts, placing one as more “real” than another is still a duality.

[@fourtwentythree]

How can you dissolve the thinker ? Isn’t that the brain ? If you wake up aren’t you thinking do I want coffee? do I have to pee? What do I want to eat ? Isn’t that all the thinker ?

[@philrobson7976]

I do a lot of speed math and got 13x17 quickly ( 170+51) but to do it in the middle of an interview was impressive.

[@ericandbeck]

I thought: difference of two perfect squares, (15 + 2) (15 - 2) = 225 - 4 = 221, same speed as he did, maybe that is how he got it fast.

[@jimmyjasi-anti-descartes7088]

He probably get to the higher microtubule vibration frequency

[@jimmyjasi-anti-descartes7088]

Why that obsession with Gino. It would be wonderful if Kuhn will interview Shan Gao (Sir Roger Penrose collaborator)

[@shashankaadiga6093]

Not at all

[@voyagersa22]

17 x 13 is indeed 221 , you’re good mr Robert 👏🏻👍🏻

[@danielmcgregor8803]

THIS GUY GETS IT!!! Great guest.

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

yep....;) but this aint taught, it's simple yet difficult... he is describing the act of 'self remembering' which is the foundation stone... needs practice. Years sometimes.

[@breno2024]

It "appears" that he gets it because he has read enough books on the subject. His presentation, the way he speaks about this, his energy if you will, makes it appear that he does not get it experientially. You can clearly observe this experiential understanding when listening to someone like a Tibetan meditation master, many of whom are accessible through KZbin. There is a qualitative difference between them and Mr. Yu.

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

@@breno2024 maybe. non the less he describes the act of divided attention, seperation of self from ego to a tee . This podcast tries to answer questions that science does not have the tools to answer. I find it amusing at times at others interesting...

[@danielmcgregor8803]

@@stevefrompolaca2403 yep. You noticed it too.

[@breno2024]

@@stevefrompolaca2403 I have been a monk for about 24 years, I have lived in the Himalayas for a couple of those years and sat at the feet of the greatest meditations masters on Earth. Mr. Yu does not describe anything to a tee in this video. If you are interested in this stuff, I would suggest going to the source for your tee:)

[@lj823]

One of your best interviews! TY

[@russellbarndt6579]

I would definitely like to hear more from this individual .

[@BOOGY110011]

interesting. hope to see more from Gino Yu

[@k.j1758]

Amazing. He showed such a deep and alert focus while keeping strict eye-contact. Did he even blink once?

[@priortokaraew7569]

Getting closer.

[@BlindfoldedSight]

Enlightenment is immortality. Why does no one know what enlightenment is and yet they speak so confidently that they do. Nuts

[@JesseStarks]

Beautiful. No gobbledygook. Pure presence.

[@bzzzvzzze]

Beautiful explanation! :)

[@kipponi]

This interview helped me a lot. Best five minutes! I play classical guitar(as hobby and it makes me less anxious) and I make mistakes now and then. It is because I am not presense enough. My mind wandering away what I am doing. Thank you now I know cause! And a little more enlightenment I am! Edit. the keyboard of this smartphone is not illuminated.

[@MorningSignal]

I think there are multiple enlightenments. There is realizing that absence of essences (like in madyamaka buddhism). Then there is realizing consciousness is the ground of reality (like in advaita vedanta and dzogchen). I don't consider just being really present, like someone who does concentration meditation all the time, as a kind of enlightenment because if you stop meditating your presence goes away pretty quickly. The two enlightenments I mentioned before are more stable and have more of a 'wisdom' component. You could also argue that christian/sufi mysticism leads to its own kind of enlightenment.

[@mikefoster5277]

But don't all paths lead to the same goal? Which perhaps is to realize that the various 'kinds of enlightenments' you mention are merely different paths rather than the destination itself?

[@mikefoster5277]

@@Luis.Macedo.Monteiro I agree that there's no goal 'to achieve', but there's still always a goal nevertheless. The whole of existence is moving in the direction of achieving its goal, even though the goal itself can never be achieved.

[@MorningSignal]

@@mikefoster5277 If someone follows different meditative paths simultaneously, they may feel like they all point to the same meditative experience. But there is a lot of room for error here. One may discount contradictory evidence, or focus on what is in common between traditions. Also, as a beginner or intermediate meditator, it is very difficult to know, purely through introspection, whether you are experiencing one enlightenment, or a combination of different ones at any one time. Or whether one 'enlightnement' experience is in the same category as one experienced at another time. If you're interested there is a book called "Revisioning Transpersonal Theory" that talks about this.

[@mikefoster5277]

@@MorningSignal I suspect my primary goal in life is to simplify, to purify, to reduce the obvious complexities of this human existence - in which case, meditation would appear to be the ideal solution. It seems however that meditation is a very personal thing, and that different people need to meditate in different ways. For me personally, meditation is simply life itself. I don't see it as being a separate 'practice' - something for which one sets aside 30 minutes each day, or whatever. And so, for me at least, there are no books required; no theories, no methods, no choice of paths. My life itself is my meditation, and so I require no advice or assistance from outside of myself. This is very much an inside job.

[@yoya4766]

@@mikefoster5277 zen

[@divertissementmonas]

What an introduction to the question from Mr Kuhn. Gave me the same reaction "Wow" as Gino Yu 🤣🤣🤣

[@patrickm7203]

A human is a mind + body system; in other words, mind + matter system. Both mind and matter at ultimately deepest levels are just merely fluctuations. In nature, there is another state totally free of fluctuations; and that state is enlightenment. In enlightenment, the conscious mind, after its focus on mental and material fluctuations, achieve its focus on the state that is totally free of any fluctuations.

[@ataraxia4526]

It's cute how everyone commenting here is an expert when it comes to the enlightenment.

[@breno2024]

Very, very few humans are experts on enlightenment despite their best efforts to convince everyone otherwise.

[@breno2024]

And even fewer are experts experientially.

[@carpeimodiem]

Perfect description

[@OtaBengaBokongo]

what? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@carpeimodiem]

@@OtaBengaBokongo yikes 🤡

[@WildMessages]

Enlightenment = Not brainwashed like sheep to follow without your own thoughts and ideas. Understanding the depth of your surroundings and while gaging how much you dont know?

[@aminomar7890]

The result of Enlightenment is Joy and highest level of feeling of humanity,….etc because mind is what is giving value to existence! There is something wrong no doubt!

[@BlindfoldedSight]

All are thoughts. The only force is thought force. This is why all is nothing and why meditation leads to liberation. One must make the inner world as real as the outer to learn that the two are 1 and the only true limits that exist are those we impose upon ourselves.

[@richardbond4496]

Title: "Radiant Essence: The Energy of Enlightenment" Intro: Embarking on a journey through realms unseen, This poem explores the energy that lies within. A glimpse into the enlightened souls' profound might, Their radiant essence, shining with divine light. Verse 1: Enlightened souls, their energy pure and bright, Resonating with cosmic harmony, an ethereal delight. Untouched by ego's burdens, they gracefully glow, A vibrant flow of love and wisdom they bestow. Verse 2: Their presence hums gently, a serene melody, Igniting souls' awakening, setting spirits free. In their aura, a magnetic pull is felt, A sacred space where hearts and minds are compelled. Verse 3: Ordinary souls, entangled in life's chaotic web, Their energy clouded, like a foggy neb. Desires, fears, illusions taint their vibrant core, Their vibrations fluctuate, tossed by life's lore. Verse 4: But the enlightened ones, a beacon in the night, Uplifting, inspiring, casting shadows in their light. Their energy, a symphony of celestial tones, Guiding seekers' hearts to their spiritual thrones. Verse 5: Harmonizing with the universe's grand design, Their energy flows, like rivers of divine. Clarity, truth, and profound stillness they bring, Awakening dormant sparks, like the first breath of spring. Verse 6: In their presence, a tranquil serenity thrives, A gateway to the soul, where true essence arrives. A gentle hum, whispering ancient truths untold, Their energy, a balm for spirits weary and cold. Verse 7: Radiating brilliance, like a radiant sun, Enlightened beings illuminate for everyone. Their vibrations touch the deepest layers of our being, Reminding us of our own divinity, forever freeing. Verse 8: In the energy of enlightenment, a sacred dance, Between the seen and unseen, a cosmic trance. A symphony of souls, united in their quest, To awaken the world, and let love manifest. Verse 9: For within each heart, a spark of light resides, Yearning to be kindled, to illuminate and guide. Radiant essence, the energy of the divine, A reminder of the truth, that we are all intertwined. Verse 10: So let us embrace the wisdom they bestow, Nurture the flame within, and let it grow. In our own journey, may we seek the divine, And let our radiant essence forever shine. Verse 11: For in the energy of enlightenment, we find, A resonance that unites the human and the divine. A reminder that we hold the power to ignite, The world with love and wisdom, shining ever so bright. Verse 12: Radiant essence, a beacon in the night, Guiding us towards truth, with its celestial light. Embracing the energy, we transcend the mundane, And awaken the divine, within our very name. Verse 13: So, let us honor the energy of enlightenment's call, Embrace our true essence, standing tall. For in the radiant essence that lies within, We find our purpose, our truth, where new beginnings begin. Verse 14: The enlightened ones, divine conduits they are, Connecting the material realm to realms afar. Through their energy, heaven's touch is revealed, Within their presence, the sacred is unsealed. Verse 15: The impact they have on the planet and its plight, A ripple of transformation, spreading far and wide. Awakening dormant souls, igniting the spark, Guiding humanity on a path that's not dark. Verse 16: Even the fallen beings, lost in their despair, Encounter the enlightened, finding solace there. Their energy pierces through the darkest of night, Offering redemption, a chance to set things right. Verse 17: The demons, lurking behind the masks of human guise, Shudder in the presence of the enlightened ones' eyes. Their malevolence crumbles, their power diminished, As the light of truth exposes the darkness they've finished. Verse 18: The energy of the enlightened, a catalyst of change, Unveiling the illusions, dismantling the strange. They inspire leaders to shed their corrupted skin, Guiding them towards righteousness, breaking free from sin. Verse 19: Through their energy, the world is set ablaze, A transformation, a shift in collective gaze. Hearts open wide, compassion floods every soul, Love and unity reign, making brokenness whole. Verse 20: In the energy of enlightenment, a new era is born, Where divine wisdom and love are forever sworn. The radiant essence of these beings divine, Leads us to a world where heaven and earth align. Summary: "Radiant Essence: The Energy of Enlightenment" is a poetic exploration of the transformative power of enlightened energy. The poem highlights the stark contrast between the pure, vibrant energy of enlightened souls and the clouded, fluctuating energy of ordinary beings. The enlightened ones act as divine doorways, connecting the material realm to the kingdom of heaven, allowing people to experience the divine in their presence. Within their energy, there is a harmonious resonance with the cosmic symphony, radiating love, wisdom, and profound stillness. Their presence inspires awakening and liberation, offering a tranquil serenity and whispering ancient truths. Their radiance illuminates the path to spiritual thrones, guiding seekers towards their true essence. The poem emphasizes the profound impact of enlightened energy on the planet and its inhabitants. Even fallen beings and the demons behind human masks tremble in their presence, finding redemption and transformation. The enlightened ones inspire leaders to shed corruption and guide them towards righteousness. Through their energy, the world undergoes a powerful transformation, with hearts opening wide, compassion flooding souls, and love and unity prevailing. The radiant essence of the enlightened beings heralds a new era, where heaven and earth align in perfect harmony. "Radiant Essence: The Energy of Enlightenment" invites readers to embrace their own inner radiance, seek the divine within, and join the journey of self-realization. It is a reminder of the transformative potential of enlightened energy and its ability to ignite a profound shift in the world.

[@patientson]

seeing feeling but think less. Action hits louder

[@johnrainmcmanus6319]

And this guy was chosen to represent the totality of spirituality because...? OMG.

[@mohamedabd1716]

Well done 👍🏾

[@OtaBengaBokongo]

When Allah will catch and punish the criminal?

[@carreiras5702]

My noble being just came down to tell you that he gets it..

[@aminomar7890]

They talk about meditation as enlightenment ! Enlightenment through accumulated scientific knowledge is not the same! The enlightenment known in recent centuries ! Meditation is something else!

[@oposkainaxei]

Once again a marvelous episode with enormously bad sound quality

[@S3RAVA3LM]

He's right. I'm not a very enlightened person. To be in the presence, focused in the center, is to not be in the past of depression, or in the future of anxiety. To not allow yourself to be drawn out from within because of things happening around you, to remain centered. To realize the life and the joy within rather than finding joy in objects or materialism. However, i don't really feel comfortable around these enlightened people. I'm a God suffering kind of man.

[@mikefoster5277]

Perhaps enlightenment is the realization that the apparent boundary between inner and outer is ultimately illusory in nature? As indeed Gino alluded to, once you realize this (and 'get over' the seriousness of the personal self) then life becomes merely a playground of opportunities for experience and experiment. Which, of course, even includes the potential to live as a "God suffering kind of man".

[@S3RAVA3LM]

@@mikefoster5277 good input. The greats and wise, ultimately say what we're experiencing is unreal, and that which is within us is the real.

[@stevecoley8365]

X-Files Enlightenment The real Mission Impossible Humanity needs to fill a giant black hole in space called ignorance (greed) with light (love)...so that its darkness (misery, murder, mass shootings, suicides, war, etc.) goes away and its heavy gravitational pull stops sucking the joy out of life and destroying the planet. Then life can become a celebration with joy spilling out of the smiles of everyone. Like good (god) intended for life to be in the first place. Unfortunately, enlightenment (love) cause vampires (greed) great pain and suffering. That's why the words compassion, understanding, society (socialism), community (communism), "care for all" and "green new deal" cause the capitalist counting corpses that rule US such misery. Vampires (greed) who suck the joy out of life have joined the zombies who eat the futures of their children. Zombie Apocalypse is here and happening now. Lead into gold Tears into roses Weapons into ploughshares

[@adammobile7149]

What is the definition of enlightenment by the way???

[@breno2024]

@3:37 No, you observe the world as it is, which is precisely the opposite of saying observe the world as it appears.

[@penultimatename6677]

Enlightenment is something that gives one permission to think they know more and are more aware. He still can't see infrared light or atomic particles. Appears enlightenment has its limitations.

[@breno2024]

You clearly have zero knowledge of what enlightenment is. Based on your comment, I would say you need about a decade to wrap your head around the theory, and that is if you really dedicated yourself to it.

[@johnyharris]

Meditation lowers activity in the default mode network, the seat of consciousness where the individual self is formed. When this happens you feel more connected with your surroundings and less of an individual. There's no 'energy' at play here, just different brain states. Eastern traditions call it Enlightenment, modern neuroscience calls it modular default mode network disintegration.

[@TheMemesofDestruction]

This was enlightening. Thank you! ^.^

[@breno2024]

Meditation is only part of the recipe. If you knew the other ingredients, you would not equate Enlightenment with network disintegration.

[@adocampo1]

There's a 3rd part beyond thought & senses: contemplation or long term-intuition which is mystical when 2nd nature followed by the 4th part as contemplation in action which is simulating. For example, do I consider Jack Nicholson a mystic or Stephen King or Picasso? For 30 minutes maybe without cut. Unlike a Maharshi or DelaCruz which is for life. Maybe Richard Gere, if he outlasts the movies.

[@bhaveshmahale1179]

Then isn't it our most aligned state with the cosmos?

[@tyfife79]

We ARE the cosmos. We are not in the universe, we are the universe experiencing itself. This can be ultimately realized through deep states of meditation or through sudden, spontaneous realizations that are known to occur.

[@bhaveshmahale1179]

@@tyfife79 Yes. I know.

[@tyfife79]

@@bhaveshmahale1179 I'm very glad you do 🙏

[@Aluminata]

It's a place where all things become nameless and new and full of meaning and wonder. ( just like a mushroom trip;)

[@Robinson8491]

Went full Keanu Reeves there for a moment

[@tyfife79]

Fr he did 🤣

[@noshambos]

I’ve noticed it’s almost impossible to describe it using words

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

does human brain make sense perception automatic / subconscious so consciousness focuses on cognition and subjective?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

can human cognition and subjectivity be directed towards sensory perception?

[@MrSanford65]

I think enlightenment starts with seeing things as they are -as dynamic forces-without words or category. Pictures fit together where words can’t. I think language itself is an inhibitor to truly existential transcendent enlightenment

[@mello1016]

Because language implies conceptualization which is a model and a reduction of true reality. Enlightement is a state of pure awareness of perceptual content including awareness itself undistrubed by conceptualization.

[@MrSanford65]

@@mello1016 When I started finding this out is at my job when a lot of times maybe it’s because of my combat experience, I get a rush of extreme anger every now and then, and I’m to the point now where every time it happens I see dogs barking and birds flying away. Over the years I started to come to believe that animals because can’t speak language -they can sense your emotions and blood pressure in a pure metaphysical state. They can see the dynamic patterns that we are inhibited from seeing because of the overlay of man-made conceptions and category. I believe before there was language, we were in a much more transcendent metaphysical state. Dynamic forces are the only real thing underlying everything we see as flesh and material

[@breno2024]

If your conversation about enlightenment does revolve around compassion, it is not a conversation about enlightenment.

[@mello1016]

@@breno2024 Compassion is neither neccesary nor sufficient condition for description of enlightenment. You can contribute to conversation and prove my statement wrong.

[@breno2024]

@@mello1016 If you don't understand the role of compassion, I am certainly not going to educate you in KZbin comments. You should probably take some time to understand what the word compassion means in Buddhism. And then take much, much more time to experience compassion as described by the Buddha and hundreds of very well known Tibetan monks. These monk have written a lot of books on the subject. The Dalai Lama is a pretty good source:) And, many of the most well known, English speaking monks have plenty of KZbin videos on the subject of compassion. Saying compassion is not necessary makes you sound a fool. Full stop.

[@JungleJargon]

Enlightenment is when you are shown the truth by way of knowing the absolute truth that only your Creator can be your Savior.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

when the load becomes less heavy?

[@AshutoshSingh-on8zt]

Gino Yu speaks like a yogi.

[@Hotlux66_]

I'm defenetely enlighten. The only way you wake up is when you loose everything in life and grieve and then continue on aware that there is no where else to go but do your best while breathing

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

when the light goes on?

[@monty3854]

I seperated myself from my mind now I can't get it back. Help?

[@tyfife79]

Become aware of your body in space. Count 5 things you can touch, 4 things you can see, 3 things you can hear, 2 things you can smell, 1 thing you can taste. Your mind is your body. Your mind is the space around you. You haven't lost anything, you've only forgotten that you are an eternal soul.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

thought is cognitive, presence is sensory / perception?

[@R0hi]

It's the exact opposite of what he says. The high energy presence is a consequence of having experienced enlightenment. Enlightenment involves completely switching off physiological and psychology inputs to enter a state of realization beyond physical.

[@mikefoster5277]

Maybe. But then how can one live like that - especially in a modern day civilisation? Surely one would still require the ability to receive both physical and psychological inputs in order to function normally and effectively within society? In which case, perhaps enlightenment involves more than you suggest?

[@protector808]

But what I really want to know is how is he not blinking?!

[@opiumcouk]

It's not a bad message, but it doesn't really have anything to do with enlightenment.

[@kricketflyd111]

I am sure we don't understand what enlightenment is. I thought it had something to do with when a highly spiritual person stopped your heart then started it again or when Spirits visited you and stopped your heart and we're renewing it along with energy running from your big toe to your skull a couple times and you from this were born again?

[@patientson]

This is what a 40 days and 40 night dry fast can bring to you. Metaphysics or cause and effect begin to sew its thread to your being where you become so sensitive you dare not succumb to anxiety or choosing sides. In Christ mode, all things are possible.

[@TristanG21]

Do you care for a theological discussion? I search this channel trying to find sincere Christians to have dialogue. My name is Tristan. Kind regards

[@patientson]

@@TristanG21 yes. What do you want to know, good friend?

[@TristanG21]

@@patientson Do you adhere to futurism i.e. that Christ will one day return in our future?

[@patientson]

@@TristanG21 elaborate.

[@TristanG21]

@@patientson What are your theological views of eschatology? Do you believe that Christ will one say return to the earth? As well as the Rapture of the church when Christ returns?

[@pardonwhat]

Awareness is being aware of your mind not necessarily your environment. Knowing your emotions and resultant ‘belief’ allows one to be wise i.e. wisdom is to know ‘it’ is not about ‘you’.

[@jamesthomas1244]

Just as the thought of a tree is not a tree No thought is reality

[@maxwellsimoes238]

It is crazy or in the other words equizofreny.

[@yoya4766]

En-lighten-ment. To bring forth the light within, is my interpretation. However people like Buddha acquired superpowers after enlightenment e.g. seeing into people's past/present/karma. Or like Jesus performing miracles. Perhaps realisation of reality is enlightenment, which effectively nullifies the existence of past/present or karma. Parting the seas is an expectation too far. Perhaps God is more than enlightenment. It's all very puzzling. What I do know is that staring someone out isn't it.

[@johnstarrett7754]

I don't know what kind of enlightenment he is talking about, but it sure isn't a good explanation of Zen-type enlightenment.

[@shehrosemian]

Not a fan of Kuhn's etiquette on this one.

[@voyagersa22]

Yeah that introduction was a little cringe😅

[@richardmooney383]

I can't make head or tail of what this bloke is talking about.

[@stephenbrookshypnosistraining]

Wrong - Enlightenment is about being present at the conception of the present. It’s not about being present at the awareness of the conception of the present. Because by its nature, awareness is an observation of something that already exists, and therefore cannot be experienced in the actual present. This guy is talking about being present to awareness, not to being present at the conception of the present.

[@Reformed_Theological_Studies]

Is this person Korean?

[@B.S...]

In the classical Christian sense it’s fearlessly stepping into the sensual void (Dark Night) and emerging into divine contemplation... what Eckhart describes as the Godhead.

[@Davysguru]

What???

[@seajayhan]

Please, this guy's definition has nothing to do with enlightenment. If enlightenment is to live with physiological stimuli but not thoughts, every insect is enlightened. False prophets do more damage than no prophets.

[@philip281]

Why can't every insect be enlightened?

[@seajayhan]

@@philip281 Because if the definition is so wrong, no one will become enlightented for real, therefore no one will become Buddda. Then it defeats the whole point of Buddha coming to this world to teach us how to become enlightended and become a Buddha too. This type of careless and made-up definition of enlightenment simply hinders people from seeking the real meaning of enlightenment and seeking the effective method of attaining enlightenment. This type of behavior is called Dharma-breaking, very bad for sentient beings.

[@philip281]

@@seajayhan I see, so how would you define enlightenment?

[@seajayhan]

@@philip281 Yogacara's/vijnanamatra's definition of enlightenment is "to realize Thusness". Using an overly simplified but popular analogy, it approximately means "realizing the real backstage operation/algorithm of the Matrix". The method to achieve that is that one has to first eliminate attachment to self and qualia (i.e. the entire front-stage existence in the Matrix). This guy Gino Yu, on the contrary, wants you to get more attached to your physiological sensation, which hurts your chance of becoming enlightened.

[@seajayhan]

An insect does not have a chance of attaining enlightenment, but humans do. Humans use exactly their rational mind to come to the conclusion that physiological sensations, as well as thoughts and the entire world, is an illusion. Then we seek a way to know the reality, which does exist. Insects can't do that. Gino Yu is teaching you to become an insect and call it enlightenment. So damaging.

[@bakedcreations8985]

Enlightenment is when you realise people who thinks they know what enlightenment is not enlightened.

[@aminomar7890]

It is absorbing clean and valuable knowledge to reach higher level, that means just collecting knowledge isn’t enough to improve yourself. what they are saying is weird and bizarre!

[@liluziBurt667]

Enlightenment is believing you know more than you actually do.

[@PPitambarP]

One CAN be in present and in thought at the same time. Just takes a little practice and effort.

[@breno2024]

There is something called activity without thought. I am quite sure you are not referring to this. If I am correct, you are not talking about Presence.

[@PPitambarP]

@@breno2024 well yes, there are many options of either presence or thought and many combinations of both/both+.

[@breno2024]

@@PPitambarP No, there are not, though some influencers lol might try to make the case. There are many egotistical states of mind with varying degrees of emotional and/or cognitive obscurations. It is astounding how many unconventional ideas are out there around Presence and thought when the Buddha was astoundingly clear on the matter.

[@PPitambarP]

@@breno2024 too bad for you, bro. I guess your consciousness is still small and unexpanded. You limit yourself. And leave the ego. Lol

[@breno2024]

@@PPitambarP I have been thinking for a while about a test that will reveal the frauds who think they can make spurious claims about Enlightenment and get away with it because, after all, nobody can know for sure about their state of mind. First of all, much more than you "obviously" realize is revealed through your choice of words. Second, the best indicators are in your actions. The path is a life dedicated to helping others *at your own expense and happiness*. If you are not living such a life, your are nowhere near being Enlightened. Lastly, it is easy to claim big things about your mind when everything is going well. The real measure is when everything is going very poorly. As such, the test should be designed to create extremely adversarial conditions for participants, such as a month long challenge on very little sleep, hungry stomachs, poor quality food, and a smattering of other aggravators. We will soon see who is who.

[@Clancydaenlightened]

5meo-dmt

[@HialeahUnico]

❤🙏☯️

[@ishikawa1338]

Best explanation of it .

[@jimmyjasi-anti-descartes7088]

There's no enlightenment because There's no soul. There's only One Universal Counscioussness under different manifestations that Monotheistic Hindu call Shiva and which "existence" is partly supported by Quantum Non-locality and this year Stuart Hameroff experiments that showed that Counsciosness goes away with Anesthesia and is likely to be Quantum! Meditation all that yoga stuff is meaningless. Just be good for other people

[@jimmyjasi-anti-descartes7088]

Why that obsession with Gino. It would be wonderful if Kuhn will interview Shan Gao (Sir Roger Penrose collaborator)

[@Jamuvac]

I agree. Gino Yu is great.

[@breno2024]

You need to get out more so-to-speak. Watch any well known Tibetan meditation master speak on this and you will quickly see this is so far from a great explanation that it borders on failure.

[@spiritmixtape]

i disagree

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Lack neuriscience standard . Guys shows baseless link with reality. Hilarious and fake speculations about reality.

[@nyworker]

Sounds a lot like distraction.

[@WhatYouSeeIsAllThereIs]

Keep trying buddy 😂

[@jamesjennings9907]

Wrong!

[@realityrealization625]

This guy has no idea what Enlightenment is xD

[@absolutelysobergeorge]

BS

[@lisandroge]

If your going this path then I recommend eckhart tolle. He's a spiritual teacher and author of the best seller " the power of now".

[@fortynine3225]

Enlightenment is about a person who has a deeper understanding on a subject whatever that may be. A guy like Bill Gates has a deeper understanding of computers (and made lots of money with his knowledge). So his mindset is such that he has clarity of mind on the subject he knows lots about.

[@breno2024]

No, you are talking about expertise and a non-metaphysical meaning of the word enlightenment. This is not even remotely the same as Enlightenment.

[@fortynine3225]

@@breno2024 One could narrow enlightment down to having a deeper understanding of what a human being is. That is still a expertise...lol

[@russellbarndt6579]

It would seem to me that Zen Buddhaism and / or Taoism will teach us excape velocity over time ...

[@supamatta9207]

To the existentialist everyone immitates the same book but subtle diffetences can be a different book or world of difference. And i thought it was the old testament mystical creature that inspired the first encyclopedia. That likes arts and craft in south park

[@adrianandreica]

In a sense we are already enlighted. Enlightement it's not a state we work for to attain. We all have the enlighted qualities as described in the video but are covered by our poor perception of the reality due to personal conditioning and other factors. To be enlightened is to get rid of these obscurations and unveil these enlighted qualities through pure perception.

[@breno2024]

The difference between knowing what enlightenment is intellectually and understanding It experientially is like a hole in a sesame seed compared to the entirety of the Universe. Furthermore, knowing what enlightenment is intellectually is much harder than most westerners realize. And, what most (westerners and easterners) who think is an experience of enlightenment is just another layer of ego.

[@tyfife79]

Amazing comment!

[@TheWeaksoup]

Like a baby who lives in the moment.

[@idea2go]

Lawrence is a lot faster at mental math than I am. It must be because I’m enlightened and not focused on the elsewhere!

[@brawlpups3517]

If you are enlightened there is no math in the ocean as the ocean is one and is not subdivisible by itself

[@aminomar7890]

What is this! Enlightenment should be reaching higher mental and psychological level through accumulated filtered and improved knowledge. Means: how the self reaches higher level through valuable knowledge. (How self concept absorbs valuable knowledge to reach higher state, because merely accommodating knowledge is not enough “that is what going on nowadays, means simple people marketing for themselves as elite educated people’) There’s something wrong!

[@jimmyjasi-anti-descartes7088]

Why that obsession with Gino. It would be wonderful if Kuhn will interview Shan Gao (Sir Roger Penrose collaborator)

[@emmanuelmacedo1095]

Don’t stories still inform how we experience the present? I don’t think there is a neat line or barrier between the two. You can only attempt as best you can to separate “present” from the “present as told by narratives/ideas”

[@gettaasteroid4650]

The Enlightenment Gino Yu describes seems similar to Thomas Elyot's Enlightenment and later the Paracelsians who wanted to teach good health to non-greek speakers who were blindly practicing Seneca's method of 'drinking and sweating' in lieu of the Black Plague, it was 'Diet, Quiet, and Merryman'

[@wthomas5697]

That's the western definition of enlightenment but I think in the east they value a disassociated trance state more. To the point of that being their definition of "enlightenment". No suffering but conscious to a degree.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

when photons communicate information

[@joesalerno2852]

Gino Yu is one of the most immediately likable people I’ve ever watched on youtube. It’s difficult not to feel happy just listening to the guy. Nonetheless, I don’t see how to achieve certain mental states independent of physical stimulus. The people with serious brain chemical imbalances can’t act independently from the various stimuli they receive. The implication is that we can choose a state of being independent of the chemistry and physics influencing us. Ask someone with Tourette’s syndrome about how their ability to choose is working for them.

[@zenrand688]

This won’t help you at all but it’s a non-dual state of mind so your dualistic mind under which you’re currently operating can’t grasp it. It’s like you can’t get there from here - you have to make a quantum leap into that state of consciousness so to speak. As we say in Zen, no words or explanation will help you attain it, but we try anyway ;-) Sorry for the rather unhelpful comment…

[@mikefoster5277]

There _is_ no choice or choosing. In fact, possibly the simplest description of 'enlightenment' is indeed just that! Plus, of course, the individual's personal integration of that understanding.

[@joesalerno2852]

Isn’t one’s state of mind controlled by his or her’s electro-chemical state? Some are lucky in that their electro-chemical predisposition allows them to achieve it naturally. Others might require mind expanding drugs to achieve their desired state, while for others, there is no hope, owing to the bio-physical structure and chemistry they have been dealt.

[@zenrand688]

@@joesalerno2852 It goes both ways brain affects mind but it’s been clearly shown that mind affects brain - and I mean that in a measurable, physical manner. People who meditate regularly show increases in the size of the areas of the brain responsible for empathy as one example. Also the dopamine system is heavily influenced by what you think - striving for a particular goal and achieving it. The goal itself is not important other than the amount of importance you place on it. Watch Andrew Hubermann - who is a neuroscientist - he covers this in great, scientific detail.