Girl Guinea Pigs and Neutered Male Bonding with Saskia

www.etsy.com/s...
The all natural Piggies Choice Hay Racks are available finally! amzn.to/3iYcPHP
As well as the new Piggies Choice Space House colors amzn.to/3jQMY5L
All Piggies Choice products are designed by me specifically for guinea pigs
Running commentary by Saskia on bonding guinea pigs with a few different piggie couples. Check out my little assistant in the background working hard filling and cleaning all the water bottles! ❤❤❤❤❤ she came to visit with her dad Dustan that day!!
Everything we use in the videos can be found right here www.amazon.com...
Has Saskia has helped you in the past with an issue? Please donate to the LAGPR! Donations are tax deductible www.laguineapi...
Start your Amazon shopping through this link to support the guinea pigs and the work I do smile.amazon.com/ch/27-1292225
Buy something for the piggies from our wish list www.amazon.com...
Our Facebook page / laguineapigrescue
Saskia also has her own Facebook page -
/ saskiaguineapiglady
SPACE HOUSES - buy yours here amzn.to/2B4z4Zg
Link to the PAIN RELIEF cream gel pen Saskia uses in her videos
www.laguineapi...

[@dustangourlie9398]

My daughter and I were so fortunate to be present for the filming of this video (that's her in the background re-filling water bottles). Saskia and Ursula were such great hosts and we can't thank them enough. Please, if you can, support this great organization!

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

Hi Dustan!!!!!!! 🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕

[@texaspigger4343]

I saw your daughter in the video and she was doing a great job!!!!!!

[@cassycross2219]

@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue plzzzzzzzzzzzz send me that cage my 2 guinea pigs are in a store bought cage and i cant find any other cage big enough

[@cassycross2219]

@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue also do u have like baby babies for adootion

[@cassycross2219]

@@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue i love zean

[@skyd1207]

Way better than the boy bonding video lol. The boys were crazy.

[@BionicBear88]

I'm mesmerized by the way that Tammy's hair swirls! 😄 She's so sweet and want to cuddle her! 🐹💗

[@CavyConsciousness]

Bonded by a shared love of carrot. I really enjoy your commentary on the bonding videos

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕

[@ndavies5968]

I bonded a 1 year old neutered boar with my 3 year old sow now spayed for a because of tumour. And they get on great. My boar is very protective over his girl. If she gets spooked, he will walk over and sit in front of her until she is ok🙂. Some videos of them are in my channel

[@rinnreine1457]

You should do more videos of bonding commentary. They're really informative

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

I will!!

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

Our follower Diana started a petition to have me go on the Ellen Show to share my love of guinea pig with the world and to encourage proper care. Would you take a moment to sign it? www.thepetitionsite.com/617/275/608/feature-la-guinea-pug-rescue-on-ellen/

[@annaf9484]

Saskia from Los Angeles Guinea Pig Rescue I signed! 😁 Wish I was in LA so I could volunteer.

[@myguineapigworld7228]

Signed 💕

[@boopdiboop8868]

Done 🥰

[@martaszefler3385]

Done:)

[@samanthamyers4267]

Done

[@sithlordbilly4206]

They are some beautiful girls!! 😍 😍

[@debraann9512]

U r so positive

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

Yes!! 😀 ❤❤❤❤

[@CINDIRELLA1986]

what a beautifull girl.

[@rachelrobijn2847]

She is just strong in her faith and doesn’t get intimidated by a male pig! So sweet

[@catmommippy2403]

is it just my piggies, or is so many Abyssinian female piggies super sweet like this!

[@katherinestepanski4776]

We had 2 females. 1 of which liked to boss the other around and was a bit of a food hog. And every so often when she was being a little too pushy the other one would bite her butt. Then the more dominant one would lay off and they would be friends again until the next time.

[@kleurgek4847]

Bedankt

[@guineapiglaurie]

Ty Saskia for another outstanding video. We love you!!!

[@karijaneify]

Being on Ellen's show is a chance to educate thousands of people that guinea pigs, (and rabbits, hamsters, mice, rats, hedgehogs) can't all be treated the same, given the same cages, foods, etc. Small animals need healthy environments, proper nutrition and enrichment - being an educated pet owner is a must!! No more sticking a lone guinea pig into a tiny cage and shoving it into the dark corner of a kids room where it will occasionally be fed as it withers away from its unhealthy environment. Petition signed and shared!

[@karaleetrapp]

I call that their nervous chatter. My piggies make that sound when they are nervous about the 'boss piggy' being in the other piggys' personal space. They also make it if they sense a cat or dog around while I have them out of their pen.

[@soepsoep6445]

I love saskia and all the volunteers at the rescue. It's great to see people who care about guinea pigs like this.

[@heathercovington3945]

Bless Tammy. She is so sweet. She just want him to love her ❤

[@texaspigger4343]

I love these videos!!!!!! Saskia you are an amazing person!!! These innocent little babies need you!!😍😍

[@getreal98]

Omg..I so want them! So sweet.l

[@CamarenaLizet]

Awe my heart melts. They are so peaceful

[@heatherhowe351]

We had 1 girl who just would not tolerate any other girl anywhere near ( and we tried all 12) we called her stroppy poppy - she lived it up in her own cage all her life .

[@emiandjo]

Thanks for the fantastic Video Saskia 🌸🐹

[@snupydecat2266]

It’s good to know that neutered females and males goes well-our local piggie rescue only matches neutered boys with girls and I need someone for my Thor who won’t get along with my other boars and I’ve been nervous about trying him with a female

[@kellakasha8337]

Perfect timing! Thanks for the video Saskia! We got our third female yesterday and it has been a bit rocky. We got a 4 weeks old female for our pair of females (one is 1 yearvold and the other one is 6 months old). Our oldest is super mellow so she couldn't care less about what is going on, but the 6 months old...super bossy! She can't get her way with the oldest, but boy she sure is taking it on the baby. The first day she was chasing her and nipping quite frequently. It is getting better now, but she is still doing it (just not getting out of her way to push the baby around). I feel the oldest intervenes sometimes, kind of telling her to knock it off. Just like you said, at the rescue they were behaving just fine. As soon as we got home, she started. It will work out 😊. Love bonding videos!

[@tinakahler5884]

Yay! Looooove guinea pig intros 😍 could watch them a whole day 😉

[@marcichatfield1478]

I have a 20 week old female who needed to be taught to eat and everything and so I got rescued through Scott help me find two one-and-a-half-year-old bonded females and there's one that is very much the dominant one and I think I'm going to have to separate when I feed so that the baby gets enough food. I love your videos! You and Scott are amazing thank you for the work you do!

[@TheeRighteousOnee]

It looks like shes wearing a dress! So cute. :D

[@cheryleparrish9184]

What a sweet couple!

[@nancycarbajal4646]

Omg i love guinea pigs! The last pair is super cute! The little guy is soo precious and sweet w her 😘

[@lissapepper]

Good information! Thank you!

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕 you are so welcome !!!

[@snupydecat2266]

Aww the ruby eyes 😍 Love them

[@marijkedelange1860]

Als altijd een goed interessant filmpje 💋💋💋💋♥️💕

[@JuliaDubber]

She’s so pretty she’s like a little ballerina 😍

[@LovelyNefeli]

Tammy is so sweet ❤🥰

[@gertiemarie2654]

Man this is SOOO different than when we tried to bond my female. She freaked, was chasing and nipping, chattering and crying!!

[@nowaynomore]

My adopted girls bonded so well instantly, would definitely say that my girl Daisy is the boss though - what she says Lily does 😂

[@jojosworld1396]

The other guinea pigs are cute too, but right now I just can't get over how cute Tammy is 😍😍❤❤

[@user-uv3ei9gp5y]

Hi Saskia, Do you know if a neutered boar would accept a baby sow? Looking forward to hearing from you! :) Amazing channel and amazing work that you do, love it!

[@myguineapigworld7228]

Forgot to add that you always look so beautiful in your videos and so chilled ,I always look hot and bothered and covered in hay when I come out of my guinea pig room lol

[@cassycross2219]

he said BYE FELICIA when she tried taking his food

[@jamesbosslet994]

Awesome video, what an amazing pair, hopefully someone from your area will come and adopt them both!! I know i would!!

[@Nadine-hs9gx]

Thank you so much great info thank you ❤️

[@freddie488]

I've got a herd of 8 girls. Whenever we adopt another girl, we quarantined them and after two weeks add them to the herd the existing ladies just go and introduce themselves and then chill.

[@christineriddle1232]

I'm so sorry I couldn't understand their names but last one you put in for bonding I just love how they were eating together they are too sweet together.

[@amandah2866]

Tammy is so cute with that little black patch 💜💜

[@AHHomeVideos]

I have two boars that sleep close together and occasionally will play chase with each other popcorning they are coming to over two years old. Not typically what you would see with boars.

[@randomperson360]

This is awesome!! 💕💕

[@Kristina-hj6yl]

i wish you were in the midwest i would love to adopt one of ur piggieessss!!!! 😍😍😍😍

[@abbywebb2822]

I would adopt the red haired boy and the sweet white girl

[@guifrediani]

My piggies got along fine when they first met but then at home they didn't. I had to keep them separate until I cleaned the cage of all there scents. After that they got along perfectly fine

[@healingsprings11]

I love animal behavior. Yes it is very fascinating ! 💙💜

[@linlouwho123]

I’m fostering for Metropolitan GP rescue. I think Maryland requires all the pigs to be fixed. I’ll have to talk to manager, Becky to confirm. Saska, you would love her. I have 2 fixed boys and one fixed girl. And one who has birth control implant for polycystic ovary disease equivalent because I am GP neurotic. I believe Boy/girl are generally the easiest bondings. I understand why people don’t want to take the risk to get pigs fixed and it’s awesome that you can match boys. MPGR rarely loses GPs. I think the loss rate is on the order of dog/ cats, but I could be wrong so I’ll need to find out. Anyway lovely bonding as always.

[@sarahjane1851]

I ♡ Tami! She is soo sweet 🤗

[@noemizaragosa5814]

omg do you guys still have tammy with the swirls shes suer adorbs i love abyssinians !!!!

[@TheGuineaCat]

I think my guinea pigs Ricky and Lucy might be buddha pigs. Ricky had been neutered for a couple of months when I introduced him to Lucy, and there was no aggression or teeth chattering or anything. They sniffed each other a bit but just wandered around the pen eating hay and veggies. I left them in for about an hour to be safe but it was probably a match from the first few minutes lol

[@marijkedelange1860]

De bruine gedraagt zich als Buck💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙wat een leukerd Zou ik er nog een beertje bij kunnen doen ?? Buck is echt best zen🙏🏼🙏🙏🏻🤗🤗🤗

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

Ja best wel, probeer maar en even aanzien hoe ze het samen doen.

[@marijkedelange1860]

Hij zit wel met 5 vrouwtjes

[@BionicBear88]

He's checking her messages! 😂

[@lukesoto1992]

I love Guinea pigs how do I bond with the piggie an How do I approach the piggy without it teeth chattering

[@annel5296]

I was boarding two female skinny pigs for a few months that had previously been bonded. The owners said that got along great. But at my house they bickered nonstop. I moved them to a larger cage and the bickering only got worse. They never drew blood and since they weren't my pigs I really didn't want to separate them. There was no blood or scratches but the one the was getting picked on would cry and run away every time the aggressor approached her. I felt so bad for her. Then she scratched her eye on some hay probably trying to run away from her sister. I put a divider in the cage so they would still be able to see each other. But I wanted to give the little one a break while I treated her eye and give her a chance to heal. When she was better I took away the divider and the bickering pretty much stopped. I really don't understand girls and their drama. Hahaha... Boys, on the other hand, I have tons of experience with.

[@erikatoleman2625]

Hi! What is the process for introducing a neutered Male to 2 girls? The girls and boy are in separate cages at the moment, when I've put the cages near each other there's a lot of teeth chattering! Should I introduce them all at once? I don't really have an option to give the new boy up, other than back to the rescue. Thanks!

[@jessicak.8910]

I have three girls but two dominant girls and one like the sweet girl from this video! One dominant girl wins because she is a slightly bigger pig but the other dominant girl just won't give up her dominance. They got in a huge fight. The smaller dominant girl got so stressed and got ring worm break out. So bummed out, was looking forward to my mini herd!

[@arottie4097]

[@alissa757]

Hey Saskia, I commented on your bonding males video about this one and I just need a little help. I'm a first time guinea pig owner I've owned my pigs afew months I got one of them from a family who couldn't take care of her anymore but she never had a cage mate and she was about a year or so old and the other I got from a lady who didn't have the time to care for her pigs. From the lady who had the pigs I took two piggies home and they were bonded. I tried to put my other pig I got from the family with them a few times and it always ended in someone fighting I didn't really understand why I always had a huge open area with hay and food but they still fought. Now my pig that I got from the lady one of the pigs passed away due to age and now I have two and they live separate both in Midwest cages by themselves. Now I've been trying about every weekend for about 40minutes to bond them but they always fight. Could it be because there both too dominant or because the one never had a cage mate. I just want to get them into one cage and getting along happy. Thank you -Alissa (plz help Saskia ❤❤)

[@Audrey-hb9nn]

Alissa King I’ve heard that separating the pigs when the fight can be very stressful for the pigs and when you separate them and put them together again they don’t pick up where they left off but instead start over again. I would suggest letting them sort out their differences for probably three hours (once they seem to be fine with each other leave them in the open area Incase they fight again). Once they seem ok with each other it’s probably best to stay in the room but you can be doing something else. Only fully remove the piggies from each other if there is blood and scratches on the face are normal. I true piggie fight will look like just one blob of fur. Separate them with a towel/blanket if it comes to this or if you see blood. If it does come to this your pigs probably cannot be bonded. (This is all stuff I’ve heard so you might want to fact check it but I do have 3 pigs so I know that at least most of this is true)

[@mszoomy]

Hey Saskia, for some reason, on your last couple videos the volumme has been real low. I can barely hear you and I have my volume all the way up. I'm not having the problem with other videos, maybe you're filming with a different phone? Just wanted to mention it

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

Oh oops that is not good. I will remind Ursula to remind me to speak louder. Thank you Mszoomy! ❤

[@chuckhankens9341]

I think it's just ur phone

[@mszoomy]

@@chuckhankens9341 that's always possible except I wasn't having a hard time with other videos and it's only been on the last couple of Saskia's videos.

[@chuckhankens9341]

@@mszoomy Weird🤔 I didn't have a problem

[@mszoomy]

@@chuckhankens9341 I wouldn't have mentioned it if I hadn't checked everything on my end first, also if I go back and play some of her older videos, the sound is fine.

[@yafelleon]

Can I ask a question? :) I have 3 boars living together, unfortunately one of them (the younger pig) got a bit older. I'm guessing a hormonal storm inside and got dominant. From the least dominant pig he won quite fast, but the boss pig and him got into fights.. First it wasn't too bad so I tried keeping them together in hopes it would go away again. But since today I separated them because one of them got a wound. I know reintroducing will not be smart, but now I'd like to get the young one fixed and add a female to buddy up with him. Is this smart? Will the bonded pair be okay if they smell the younger boar and the female pig in the same room? Or is this a bad idea? Advice would be much appreciated! I'm afraid if I get another boar, maybe the same will happen, and I don't have space for 3 cages.. (2 is already more than we wanted but better than saying goodbye to any of my piggies)

[@jencaisse7392]

Does the sound they make when you pet their butts mean they like it?

[@angelatan3393]

This has let me understand more about Guinea pig bonding . I ve 2 male piggies 1 with 9 months old and the other in 8 months old . They have put together since bought but only live together harmony for a week . The 8 months old piggy , chocolate turn aggressive and bite the older one , patch . So sad

[@tamzin00]

I have four female piggies. 2 I bought together from the same litter - they get on swimmingly but then I brought home a new female piggy and introduced. It was fine at first but a month down the line and ever since Luna (my aggressive piggy) has bullied Bella. (My timid scared baby) she stops her from eating and drinking and always chases her and bites her chin. I have a new piggy, she hasn’t been introduced yet BUT I’m thinking of just pairing her with Bella and keeping newbie and Bella separate from aggressive Luna. Luna gets on really well with her sister, Ginny.

[@booper343]

It seems the bottom of the cage would hurt their feet and legs?

[@darlenehutson3178]

How do you bond a baby boy with daddy? Dad tried to "mount" boy.

[@vibewithkel1517]

i have a female and male guinea pig. but the female is not hitting but nibbling on the male. kind of like making him flinch but she’s not hurting him what should i do ?

[@L96OZZ]

I’ve got 5 sows together in a massive cage, they are very happy together. I have a male who I’m getting neutered so that he can live with them? Any advice or similar situations and experience anyone? :)

[@canaja37]

I bought a male Guinea and he got along with my other male Guinea for 24hrs and then the next day they got in a fight. I separated them for about an hour but after I put them back together the other guinea began chattering his teeth. I separated them for a few days but tried to put them together again and other Guinea is still chattering teeth. Now I think I have to find new home for him. Any suggestions?

[@JackieGuerrero-cq9fr]

Can u pair a baby guinea pig with an older guinea pig (2 females?)

[@kayleesanchez1067]

I just did an intro with four girls and I was sweating I have a mean girl who was pulling EVERYONE HAIR OUT but she stopped after an hour and now only chases the new girl once in a while

[@zjunegirl1862]

Can someone tell me if there’s a way to get boar glue out of fleece? I am just finding out my “female” guinea pig is a male and I previously had a male that got this stuff in the fleece that I had to cut out... 😩😩 would getting fix help the situation??

[@alexabriones5390]

Hi saskia. Got male and female guinea pigs. Is that possible? Do I have to separate them. Looks like the female is not so happy.

[@fudgingpousm9634]

Excuse me, is it easy to bond neutered boys and girls? Or is it hard?

[@dontuse101]

Would my two male guinea pigs fight if I added a spayed female?

[@cowbitenglishacademy3206]

Hi Saskia, I have 6 gunea pigs. One is a teddy. I know their skin tends to be dry and she had a patch on her back where she lost her hair because of her dry skin. I have been putting coconut oil on it but her hair doesnt seem to be growing back. Any advice would be appreciated please.

[@kiarakeeper2154]

Both my girls are aggressive!!! I want to bond them, I got two single girlies a week apart, with the hopes to bond them, and ive been having NO luck

[@itsmee3604]

Can someone give me any advice for my guine pig I only have him for 3 days bht still he only comes out to eat and than runs inside to hide he also gets scared if we make sudden movements or noise I really don’t know what to do

[@PiggieMayhem]

Whats the success rate for a neutered male and females

[@arthurmyself7183]

I have got a smaller female for my older Guinea pigs and one loves the older one but...the older one does the teeth thing. Should I try again?

[@passenge.r.3]

Do you have any tips on finding a female senior guinea pig and a baby male guinea pig?? (The baby is less than a year old)

[@hannahdoris9356]

What kind of behavior is the low walk that the beautiful brown boy Guinea pig was doing when first put in with tammy?

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

That is called a "Rumble Strut"

[@parantapdansana6376]

My baby guinea pig just died and i got a big male one to stay with my little girl will the big boy hurt it?? Please reply fast

[@libbysanimals_8306]

I had to split my trip of boys up yesterday. One has a really big cage than the other two so we are going to get three girls to put with one neutered boar. The others wont be alone, they will just be in a split cage. Can you give me tips on bonding a group?

[@dorothystuhr]

What is the best way to add a female to two bonded females? One at a time?

[@lucym5163]

Hi Saskia, thanks for all the really useful videos! Do you think it is safe for male guinea pigs to be neutered and is it better to try and bond a male guinea pig than leave him on his own? Many thanks!

[@baniroka9206]

In 10 years having piggies i always bond girls very ez, but this year i got 3 young female's under 1 year old, 1 mom and 2 sisters, and they are all 3 aggressive.. my 2 older piggies are super sweet, but they are working things out. Hairs are up, and they chase it last more than a week now, but no biting. I have the option to split them up in 2 groups, i got alot of space. But as long as they don't bite i should keep trying right? Tnx for all the vid's they help me a lot! 💕💕

[@ambigee73]

I read before that two females can spray pee at each other? Is that common or only for a bad match?

[@macrocosm4028]

Hello saskia im from philipines. I am niev i have 2 guinean pigs. And this day april 30, 2020. My huinean pig giving a birth, but before having pregant, the same cage, then, now my guinean pig giving birth 4 piggys, My problem is in MALE, I seperate him(male) they very agressive, i dont know just im scared beacuse, i worry about 4 piggys, i think may be he killed his babys. Help me pls, What should i do.

[@Cartoongurlify]

Can I bond my younger boy (6 months) with 2 females (2 years old)?

[@cristinapedreira6163]

Is there a way to add a female to a pair of boars? Or would I have to get two females ?

[@austinm5644]

I had two females and the 1 year old didn't like the one that was four months

[@kirstenrubarth8384]

I want to get one and i know they do better in pairs or groups im just curious on soms basic and cage size

[@gabbig2810]

Hello fellow guinea pig lovers, I have a question. I am adopting a male guinea pig and the rescue says they have tried 5 males and 2 spayed females but all have failed. Many in the guinea pig community get quite upset when seeing a single guinea pig. Thank you all❤️🐹

[@LosAngelesGuineaPigRescue]

Well first of all "bashing" sounds very negative and I like to stay away from that. Only kindness and loving "education" will make a real difference because people don't shut down but actually open up and are willing to listen. When we have a male that is a bit of a trouble maker as we call them, and he does not get along with pigs he has been introduced to we pair him with a baby. From 3 weeks to 2 / 2.5 months would be ideal. I wrote this article a while back. It may be useful Bromancing ( or male guinea pig introductions) By Saskia Chiesa, Director Los Angeles Guinea Pig Rescue I just got an email asking for tips to a successful boar introduction. Since this is a topic that comes up all the time I decided to write a detailed answer and share it with you all on Facebook. I have no magic tips. This is a mixture of hormones, personality and how those energies work together. That is what determines the outcome. Online there is a lot of talk about neutral space (guinea pigs are not territorial) and clean cages (only matters if the cage housed females right before) but to be honest I don’t think any of that matters. They either get along or they do not, there is no influencing that. What does help is make sure they have a large space for the intro. If they are cooped up in a small intro space they are likely to become irritated with each other and with certain personalities too small a space will likely make them fail to get along. If a male is Alpha and has a high sex drive (usually the males under 1.5yrs - lots of purring and humping) then you want to try and make a match with a male that is the opposite. The opposite would be what I call “Buddha Pigs” and are the ideal companion for any boy. They do not get bothered by a lot. They don’t take offense when the other pig sniffs, humps and rumbles and chatters away. And doesn’t feel the need to do any of those things himself. He remains Zen in the face of an annoying and relentless humper. Those two would be the exact opposite of each other and of course there are a lot of degrees of behavior in between. It is not a science and I make my decision whether or not the boys may or may not be a match by feeling their “vibe” together when we do the intro. We can usually tell in the first 5 minutes if a match is likely to work out, however, every now and then happen boys may appear to be a match but will decide a week later that they are not going to get along after all. Babies (between 3 weeks and 2.5 months) are almost always a match. But when that baby becomes a teen and the hormones start raging they may take issue with each other. Although humpy teens usually get better after 1.5yrs old. So if there is no fighting but the teen is just annoying the other with humpy behavior then it may be worth sitting it out. Lastly if they don’t get along but you love both pigs and don’t want to give up either of them the next best thing is to have them living “apart together”. This can be achieved by dividing the cage so that they can touch noses, smell and see each other. You will even see them snuggling and sleeping right next to each other with the divider in the middle. They just cannot be together. The minute you remove the divider they will act like this is the 1st time they have seen each other and go right back to where they were they left off before the divider was put in. There are exceptions of course but usually this is how they respond. When going for this option make sure that the individual space for each guinea pig is large enough. Single pigs need about as much space as pairs. 2 x 3ft would be the minimum recommendation. Coroplast made cages would work really well for this purpose. Good luck with the Bromancing!!Saskia ChiesaDirector LA Guinea Pig Rescue

[@gabbig2810]

Saskia from Los Angeles Guinea Pig Rescue thank you so much, I will definitely look into all of those. He is 1 year so definitely hormonal haha. I have a brand new Midwest cage so I hope everything will go well. Thanks again❤️