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[@MerelyAFan]

A tragic fate for Nyssa's father, though with a name like Tremas, you're just asking to have your body be hijacked by the Master. Incidentally, Geoffrey Beevers did a solid job here, and it's great that with Big Finish he got a chance to reprise the role so regularly.

[@davidlow862]

i was today years old when i realize his name was an anagram for Master, lol. Thank you.

[@PandezPanda]

@@davidlow862 ME TOOOO O.o

[@stephencoppins9467]

The Keeper of Traken is one of my favourite stories of Season 18 too.

[@swilliams937]

I always got a laugh at the crispy Master playing with Tom's hair for that brief moment, thinking it was just about to be his. It was an awesome story, and my favorite from Season 18.

[@stephensinclair3771]

Still one of the most chilling endings in "who" history.

[@Finbarzapek]

I love how you picked up on Tremas being an old guy being played by a young actor in makeup. Well, now you know the reason :)

[@CubedSausagefromScarparius]

Ainley was 49 year old at the time. Though it’s possible tremas is meant to be in his 50s and Nyssa in her 20s.

[@blakesliberator3197]

Back in 1982 when this episode was first broadcasted in Australia, this was my first recollection of The Master. The significance was completely absent to me. It wasn't until 1983 when a few Jon Pertwee episodes were being shown that I noticed for the first time The Master in his original evil glory.

[@joecrammond6221]

a great reaction to a great story MC, Tremas and Nyssa were great characters, anyone notice that Tremas is an anagram of Master, a silly name requested by producer John Nathan-Turner who was a big fan of the Master

[@ianlacey11]

As said JNT loved doing things like this.Obvious when the Master took over Tremas's body and carried forward to possible future adventures.

[@SamuelBlack84]

I really look up to the Master 🙂I long to be just like him

[@bjgandalf69]

I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this but Tremas is an anagram for Master and Doctor Who already had a history of using anagrams to hide the appearance of Jon Pertwee's Master as played by Roger Delgado. Also this may have been mentioned as well but if not: the actor that played the Master in this serial, Geoffrey Beavers, just happened to be married to Caroline John (Jon Pertwee's companion Liz Shaw) from 1970 until her death in 2012. He is currently 80 and still playing this role and others in Big Finish audio stories mostly with Tom Baker as the Doctor.

[@TheZodiacz]

What if the Doctor had regenerated but the Master had somehow taken over the old body and looked like Tom? How weird would it have been to have Tom play the Master? And anyone who has seen his performance in The Golden Voyage of Sinbad knows he would have made an awesome Master.

[@johng5859]

That final scene must have been very shocking for viewers at the time, as by this point in the show’s history it was very unusual for a story to end with such a dramatic twist - I wonder how many people back then worked out what “Tremas” was an anagram for before the Master possessed him. Geoffrey Beevers does a fine job as Crispy Master - not so crispy as he was when Peter Pratt played him in The Deadly Assassin more than four years previously, but you may recall that the Master is rejuvenated a bit at the very end of that story, which is why he doesn’t look quite so bad here. I don’t think Beevers wanted to be saddled with a mask in any case. As has been mentioned, Beevers was the husband of Caroline “Liz Shaw” John, and had appeared along with her as a UNIT soldier in The Ambassadors of Death back in 1970. As you now know, this was not the last story of Season 18. There were actually 28 episodes allocated to the season, the most since the 60s, so there were four more episodes to go. The clock on the Master’s TARDIS at the end was showing the time as five minutes to midnight, a subtle signal of momentous events to come…

[@johnwhite8074]

For me Personally Anthony Ainley was my Definitive Master as I got hooked on Doctor Who during this season in 1981 as a Eight year old.. Everyone has Their Doctor.. my Doctor was and always Will be Davison Fifth Doctor ❤ and Ainley was my Master ❤

[@SamuelBlack84]

I had the same Master and my Doctor was Sylvestor MCcoy 🙂

[@AubreySciFi]

Poor old Tremas. Such a shocking fate. But now the Master has "a new body....At last!"

[@CJWright-HorrorAuthor]

This episode is the first Doctor Who episode I remember watching, on my 4th birthday when it originally aired. The scene with Tremas/Master at the end was what got me hooked on the show and has stuck with me ever since.

[@whophd]

More or less my experience too. What a great jumping-on point for Doctor Who.

[@mattiow9664]

Nearly 40 years seperates us having the same reaction to this episode ...life is so timey whimmey ! Loved your expression...yeah Nyssa was a great character shame she was left behind..❤

[@whobp8]

Geoffrey Beevers is wearing the same cloak/costume that was used for the Master in The Deadly Assassin, but the mask that was used in that story had deteriorated by the time this was made, so they opted to use makeup instead to create the "Crispy Master" look. Terrific reaction. Can't wait to see what you think of Anthony Ainley as the latest incarnation of our villainous Time Lord.

[@robalexander8065]

Hence no "fried egg" eyes.

[@soupdragon1971]

Sadly, when I watched this as a kid the impact of the Master's return was somewhat lost on me. I was a bit too young to remember Roger Delgado in the role. I also didn't remember anything from The Deadly Assassin (which is a bit odd because I did remember the end of Hand of Fear). A lot of water had passed under the bridge since then especially for a kid. I quickly worked out from context who he was but I had no real idea of the shared history the two characters had. Thankfully my mother who remember about him, explained more and told me about RD and his unfortunate death. "This type is not really my forte." is up there with "Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue" for clever references to the Tardis.

[@robalexander8065]

Just rewatched this brilliant serial. Still one of the very best! 10/10

[@forkinhell3545]

Stumbled across you a few months ago. Apologies if it hurt! Lol. This is one of my favourite stores across ALL of Who. Can I recommend some chill pills and also please don't wear socks if you don't want to lose them as the next story may blow them off! Nuff said.

[@Adeodatus100]

Fantastic reaction! I remember watching this in 1981, thinking I'd just seen a really anticlimactic ending, and then - "Oh, it isn't finished yet...."

[@shadowwhosm]

Great reaction as always! Sorry I don't comment much but I just want to say your reaction videos are definitely one of my highlights of the day! Honestly keep up the good work!

[@PandezPanda]

i love how you call him "The Crispy Master" LOL

[@markbelsom3174]

Now you know why I liked Tremas(Master), even though I love Roger Delgado Anthony Ainley was the first Master I watched. Had the pleasure of meeting him once, a really nice guy, completely opposite to his character.

[@ruairiedwards8616]

A new body, at last

[@Problembeing]

They constantly changed the panels around on the TRADIS console back in the day.

[@jkmac625]

I definitely remember watching this back in 1980, and it's probably my favourite story from Season 18. It would have been the first time I'd heard of The Master. I didn't make the connection to his previous appearance in The Deadly Assassin, as I was probably too young to have seen that story as I'd only been around 3.

[@apollo12002]

I remember seeing that episode as a kid and there were a few scenes that were a surprise. One of the tardis rotating in space as I don’t think I had seen it do that before. An entity getting into the Tardis as I thought nothing could get in when the doors were shut. The masters tardis walking and firing lasers and of course the master stealing the body of Tremas.

[@mirage123451]

If the Doctor had regenerated in this story I could have said "don't think of it as losing a Doctor, think of it as gaining a Master..' But he didn't so I can't... Loved yr reaction tho'.

[@mark-s]

This was when the series was getting back to its basis after a few dud seasons this is why I love the doctor never give up on them the best master was roger Delgado but love antonys portrayal this was the episode that shows Dr who was going into a new era

[@alexfletcher5192]

Having been reduced almost to a vocal performance alone - first by anonymity and then by prosthetics - it's ironic that Geoffrey Beevers would later return to the role of the Master on audio only, for Big Finish. But that's the wonder of this show. You can be in four episodes (mainly hidden from sight!) and still be playing it in a studio somewhere 40 years later!

[@eddherring4972]

“This type is not really my forte.” The Tardis is a type 40 a nice little line for those in the know

[@alfmalf3310]

Tremas is an anagram of “Total and complete bastard” I mean Master

[@davidbull7210]

He was credited as Total and Complete Bastard to disguise his identity. He he he...

[@joshuajoshua2732]

The next story is the last of this season you probaly know that already. This is the first season to have 7 serials since Season 6 (1968-69). Welcome to the Tremas Master now played by Anthony Ainley.

[@thecelticdruid.6681]

I love your reaction to the ending.

[@alexfletcher5192]

The lovely thing about your reactions (indeed, any first time reaction) is that they're unaccompanied by any of the commentary that goes on from jaded older fans - some of whom largely pretend to hate things they really enjoyed as a youngster. We're at the stage of sitting on a high stool, stroking our chins in thought, but for you it's BANG, POW, ZAP! And I always look forward the most to these sorts of moments.

[@bradleywillard2361]

Anthony Ainley’s character in this story is called Tremas, which is an anagram of Master. JNT knew what he was doing, fam.

[@joshbostock_2040]

I'm so excited for the next story, it's one of my favourites. I just think this season is really good. Even though there are a few duds I would watch this season over seasons 15, 16 and 17. Anthony Ainely's master is underrated and im so glad big finish gave Geoffrey Beavers (crispy master) some stories as he's such an eerie incarnation

[@frankshailes3205]

Tremas, an anagram of Master... probably been pointed out before ;)

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

The shock me and my brother had when that ending came on... just WOW! xD

[@eclecticdog2k901]

Really a gutsy ending for a Classic Who story!

[@johng5859]

Incidentally, I would give this story an 8. There is a lot to like about it, but the weak portrayal of Kassia, the incessant gullibility of the last two surviving Consuls and the eternity it takes the Doctor to work out who the Melkur really is gets a bit frustrating. Glad you enjoyed it so much, though!

[@stecurrell5863]

Tremas anagram master

[@billthewhovian]

So Geoffrey Beevers took over from Peter Pratt here playing the "Crispy" Master as I believe Peter was unavailable, Geoffrey had the same robe as Peter wore and had different makeup with a explanation being that at the end of Deadly Assassin the Master had taken on enough energy to rejuvenate himself, at least somewhat, giving him less of a burnt look and being in less pain. Another explanation being that during his time on Traken the positive energy slowly begun to heal him. I like the first explanation myself.

[@keithneale3055]

Love your reaction and the story! Can’t wait to see your reaction to the next story!

[@Problembeing]

‘Tremas’ - Master - was right in front of you the entire time :)

[@Eltonlaleham]

I thought the idea of the Master having 2 TARDISES in this story was awesome in billions of ways the grey statue Melkur and a tall black longcase clock like the one seen in Deadly Assassin I wish I had a tardis . I would give this story 10 out of 10

[@Faerie_Kim]

Ainley's Master has arrived 😁 So much nostalgia for these stories. This was when I became hooked on the show. I must've been 6 or 7 years old.

[@toddbeilby6484]

10/10 story. 10/10 reaction MC 💕 Tremendous all round. Nyssa would have made an excellent companion. And for me Kassia’s death is one of the most shocking in all of Dr Who!

[@Allancarlostani]

The Master reborn!

[@franmarygold9223]

We were correct. That was the master. Good on us. I love trying to guess these kinds of stories. I also loved your reaction. Keep them coming. I am somewhat new. But great for me and you. Will become a patreon member soon

[@nzrockboi]

The Ainley Master, my fav version alongside Missy.

[@geoffmason7215]

only the beginning said Davros.....this master lasts

[@eddherring4972]

Geoffrey Beever’s costume/makeup evidently there is more flesh to this Master. Beevers’ lips were make up to look like teeth which didn’t really work as they weren’t really toothy enough. I love The Keeper Of Traken and give it an outstanding 9/10 because there are some better stories. SPOILER ALERT: It’s the best of.....DELETED!

[@frankshailes3205]

Interesting you say you have a feeling like with the 3rd Doctor's era. Barry Letts's influence perhaps?

[@tombaxter6228]

I did say it was a good 'un! In the scheme of things,' Keeper of Traken', isn't a huge story in itself, but it does set big things in motion. Also, there's some VERY subtle foreshadowing in the last scene. The hands of the Master's Grandfather clock are set at 4 to midnight.......

[@realsuperdoctor8364]

It's a great story very cleverly written for the great reveals and anagrams, the sets are great so is the acting season eighteen is a well done season for the end of the Tom Baker era.

[@realsuperdoctor8364]

Tremas the secret is in the name very clever.

[@ShamrockParticle]

"Crispy man" 🤯😆😅😂🤣🤣 i love it! Berry Letts coproduced this season but in one of the dvd documentaries he said his involvement is minimal... Impressive music in this season but Traken's takes the cake. I wish the Doctor was pretending, that's how cool this story is. The cure for mad dogs, wow... the Doctor is almost as impressive as the Master in this and the Master's plan is as impressive(ly evil) as it gets. Ditto for The meatballs comment too. Such an incredible ending. Made me hyper antsy to see what episode comes next!

[@ShamrockParticle]

Oh, it was John Nathan-Turner who came up of the idea of the Master. The original rough draft, among other things, was too similar to Meglos...

[@bobchisholm7487]

Now I want macaroni with meatballs.

[@davidbull7210]

I'm sure someone has already mentioned that Geoffrey Beevers (Mister Master) was married to Caroline John (Liz Shaw)

[@geoffbrundell4685]

This has be a 9/10 for me 2nd favourite story after Talons of Weng Chaing. Welcome to the new Master

[@BarryLetts379]

Can't wait for McCoy!

[@CRINOTH]

It's 8/10 for me. It's a solid story and visually pleasing too - though, for me, doesn't quite reach the level the two stories immediately prior to it. I wondered if you'd worked out Tremas' fate when you commented on the actor being younger than the part he was playing. :)

[@yussepig6629]

Also pales before the mighty Logopolis.

[@darynvoss7883]

Deadset gem of a story

[@alexfletcher5192]

Tom Baker was a friend of the Ainley 'dynasty' that begat 'New' Master, Anthony Ainley (disguised behind the groanworthy anagram 'Tremas' - a ruse that was completely unnecessary, except as a private joke). And 'The Keeper of Traken' is the only story on DVD - now Blu-ray - to be blessed with a commentary from the new face of evil. He was something of an enigma, with even the actors he worked with not being able to offer much insight. But he did have a rubbish beard...

[@misscrouch]

I recently read the biography about Ainley, and he was really something else (bless him) He was such a private man, that Nick Courtney was the only DW actor who went to the funeral, because he was the only one who heard about his death :(

[@DOCTORFREEDOM]

TREMAS=MASTER

[@jellybabiesarecool4657]

I knew the end of this episode would blow you away. Shame you couldn't call the Master "googly eyes" in this episode though as the design changed.

[@ListerDavid]

Poor Tremas, but Hello Master!

[@thomasstevens2746]

Great reaction

[@NyderOfSkaro]

10/10

[@robalexander8065]

Lots of questions -stay tuned! A 10 for me.

[@flaggerify]

Since the Master had no regenerations left surely he possessed a woman's body for you know who.

[@kirkkerman]

The NuWho Master has a new cycle after being resurrected for the Time War

[@flaggerify]

@@kirkkerman Says who?

[@kirkkerman]

@@flaggerify I mean, Jacobi regenerates onscreen, Simm explains he was resurrected by the Timelords, and then he later talks to Missy about regenerating into her, so it's pretty clear what happened

[@joshuajoshua2732]

We know he had a new regeneration cycle from Jacobi onwards but how he got it we don't know I assume from the resurrection?.

[@lotsalube]

I loved how JNT bought the master back-pure genius, but they really over-used him. The stories of that last few seasons weren't exactly the best either. No wonder it was cancelled for so long.

[@genemroch7059]

If you rearrange tremas u get master

[@bananasaregood8655]

Anthony ainley might not be the best master, bit pantomime, but his introduction is very cool. And his character was called tremas, and anagram of master. Anothr story with the fourth doctor yet… 📡 ☹️☹️

[@Eltonlaleham]

Tremas shows zero reaction to his 2nd wife Kassia's death in part 3

[@Joey15811]

Tremas is an anagram of Master. The story idea is good, but for some reason it just doesn’t gel for me. Maybe its the council lf traken that ruin it. Still another story this season. And imo of of the messiest with too much to cram in. As you are now aware we come out of one trilogy into another. I always found it odd Nyssa didn’t join here too

[@conscienceaginBlackadder]

a failure of timely planning around her. It's the scrappy unfinished business that really messes + spoils this one's ending

[@Eltonlaleham]

Ainley when he started playing the Master started off good but he did get over used in the post Tom Baker stories and really IMO the Time Lords villains we got in the JNT era the Valeyard and the Rani were IMO billions and trillions of times more interesting than the Master seriously

[@conscienceaginBlackadder]

I really dislike how they did the ending, the scrappy loose ends unfinished business. If as you are right they did, they missed an opportunity to end this with Nyssa as a companion, which would really fit logically with loss of her dad, then it's a big scrappy fault that surely ifalls it short of 10. We are left hanging with Nyssa cruelly not knowing what has happened, and we don't know we will ever see any resolution of that. They should have placed the bodysnatch earlier, so that * we would see what follows + a resolution for Nyssa, * the bodysnatch would be part of the fight over the keepership, instead of an awkward add-on after the story appeared resolved. * then the moment of doing the bodysnatch could have been the Master's weak moment in the fight that lost him it.

[@yussepig6629]

It’s a bit slow and costume drama-ish but great visuals. Nyssa should have stayed as a one off character as she’s a bit dull.

[@Silver-rx1mh]

...and then It all went down hill from there imo. lol I'm afraid couldn't stand Ainley as the Master and felt they only chose him because in one shot only he looked a little like Delgado. His performance I felt was far, far too ott for me.

[@davidbull7210]

Hoo hoo hoo. Ssurely you can't be dissing the moustache-twirling masster. I agree Delgado was better and Ainley was more of a panto villain but I still love him. He adored two things: cricket and playing the master and for that I'll always salute him.

[@bobchisholm7487]

Now I want macaroni with meatballs.