Wow, that first guy... God bless him. And God bless you Cliffe. Your patience with these students always amazes me. I don't know if I would be able to do the same thing in your shoes. Keep fighting the good fight.
@muzikumalo48409 ай бұрын
The evidence is he has been gifted with patience by the Holy Spirit.🙂
@davidestes5648 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is awesome. I've been watching him for a while. Amazing Apologist spreading the Gospel.
@jonathandacosta20459 жыл бұрын
Cliff is amazing! Great job answering those tough questions.
@BryceThomas1013 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is one of my heroes of the faith.
@josesolano13463 жыл бұрын
What an amazing introduction to this video. That father son and train analogy was great
@ericscaillet2232 Жыл бұрын
Not really ,how come the kid got there in the first place and or was not too bright and got the Darwin award - the number game is often cruel and often wrong.
@neonoxy9 ай бұрын
@@ericscaillet2232 It's an analogy, "a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification", not supposed to make worldly sense in the sense of it being a 100% logical *scenario* . You're meant to question the comparison of the contrary take, and not the *scenario* itself.
@rygeldudie10 жыл бұрын
Keep it coming! I can't get enough always looking forward to the next challenge! GBY
@rawlespringer39177 жыл бұрын
atheists always switch the argument when it starts making too much sense
@p.as.in.pterodactyl10242 жыл бұрын
4:38
@pat757138 жыл бұрын
cliff is one of the top teachers in the world ,thank you Lord
@goforlaunch19583 жыл бұрын
A+ apologetics! May God continue to bless your ministry🙏
@raffyraff22548 жыл бұрын
amennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. thank you very much from ITALY ROME
@seanf529111 жыл бұрын
Cliffe Knechtle is right. If morality is relative then what right do we have to tell someone their culture is wrong? All humans have equal worth.
@joespicer11 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming Cliff
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
Without God, racism could not be objectively wrong, and yet it is.
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
Without God, bigotry could not be objectively wrong, and yet it is.
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
Theistic traditions are built on knowledge -- belief in atheist Dogma is built on ignorance.
@markiemark18568 жыл бұрын
Cliff is class 👌🏻
@dmurphin11 жыл бұрын
If man admits to being created by a creator then he has to see himself as subordinate to that creator and subject to that creator. So it's no wonder we bob and weave as best we can to avoid the acknowledgement of a creator.
@AR-ed8jp3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@AS-bs8xv3 жыл бұрын
It just proves the fact that the student does not want to answer to a law giver but instead would rather think of the higher law as an un judging like tablet.
@richsuga5 жыл бұрын
This guy is the master of the mobile goalpost.
@blaby4ever8 жыл бұрын
CLIFFE BE HAVING FUN MAN!!!!! OWANGE LEFT AND RIGHT, DIVINE OWNAGE!!!!!
@MrScottyr8611 жыл бұрын
That atheist kid is so arrogant.
@PropheSAY11 жыл бұрын
People fight so hard against God... man.
@knxcholxАй бұрын
The patience it takes to deal with these people. Oyvey! It's like millions of people are incapable of thinking logically
@claireking75343 жыл бұрын
AMEN !
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. 13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. 1 Cor 13:11-13 (NKJV)
@tnmusicman111 жыл бұрын
Great video, Cliff . The atheists Achilles heel is moral relativism . Cliff explained it beautifully but the atheist just wasn't "getting it".
@AlphaAchilles2 жыл бұрын
Did you summon my heel?
@tnmusicman12 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaAchilles :🤡🤡
@tnmusicman12 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaAchilles 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ericscaillet2232 Жыл бұрын
@@tnmusicman1xtians need a referee as cannot reason it seems.
@rkish196911 жыл бұрын
The point of the first argument he was losing and ran away
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
Amen to that brother. Psalm 14 says it pretty well too. 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Psalms 14:1-3 (KJV)
@YourIndoctrination11 жыл бұрын
Does he have any books
@SharifShoker11 жыл бұрын
Let's stop putting God in the dock and putting the non-believer in the judgement seat. EVERYONE who has lived, is living and who will ever live, knows that God exists! No need to prove this or show evidence because as Christians we have the total authority of God's Word. We ought to have full confidence that His Word is truth and that He is sovereign. So remember Christian, let God's Word be your authority and it can bring down every argument and attack!
@Absolution5511 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video
@onehappydawg11 жыл бұрын
Read "The Harbingers" very interesting view about what is happening in our country today.
@carlbakerartist3322 жыл бұрын
There is a difference in wanting to know if God exists than not wanting Him to exist. And within this student body I see both.
@tnmusicman111 жыл бұрын
That's modern day collage boys for ya !!!!
@jabangun11 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for that student....he clearly has some issues in his head...lol
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
Why does nobody seem to notice when Cliffe does it in most of his videos?
@chawkz11 жыл бұрын
I think I heard wrong with the evolution point. lol but great dialogue as always. Amen at the end teaching about worry!
@fredkim01 Жыл бұрын
As noble was that Mr. Griffin's act, no way in heck I could ever sacrifice my own child for anyone else..
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:31-32 (KJV)
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. 1 Cor 13:8-10 (NKJV)
@aj-wl6xi4 ай бұрын
I think i see the point in the end the guy was trying to ask. He was saying, why can't you take the higher law that God gave you and just use that as the 'highest law'? To that Cliffes argument would still be correct because another person could come back and say 'ah but that highest law is made by man (because long ago religion was erased in this scenario) thus i think i have the highest law and it is [insert example]'. We need "religion" because it helps direct those to the highest law giver. That puts it out of the arbitrary hands of man and in the absolute morality of God. It's a tricky thing though because too much religion and fanaticism will push both the believers and non believers further from God.
@Dafunkdoc8 жыл бұрын
Any time a skeptic states 'You can't prove Jesus existed', they've proven themselves to be irrational. Then, to simply throw straw-man arguments while the guy was answering his question is simply bad manners. Why is it when people are confronted with their own inconsistencies, they resort to behaving like children? Sad to see that type of 'thinking' in American institutions of 'higher learning'.
@CuddlePirate8 жыл бұрын
+Dafunkdoc Why does that make them irrational?
@Dafunkdoc8 жыл бұрын
CuddlePirate Because Jesus' existence is established by the exact same standards as all other figures in antiquity whose existence they don't question.
@Josuke1268 жыл бұрын
+Dafunkdoc I think they are referring to Jesus' magical nature if you will. Jesus as simply a person is no stretch of the mind, but rising from the dead/healing people/performing miracles is a different thing.
@Andrew3000ish3 жыл бұрын
Watch till end 🙏❤️
@daniel9999412 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how this guy try to twist Cliff words in order to prove his point because he realizes that he’s not winning the argument.
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
I don't know who you are referring to here? I have not encountered god, and I have only heard somebody talking about us atheists hating god when Christians accuse us of it.
@mackdmara6 жыл бұрын
If you want to talk about these things, do not dodge. When that kid was caught on the moral argument, he just said, 'Well, you can't prove God.'. That is not an argument, nor is it a concession. Be honest, you have no objective base for your beliefs & you are fine with that. He will tell you to live that out. What he did do was a mud in the water strategy. I could not rationally hold what I do believe, so here are five other fast arguments against it also. You could have a mountain of other arguments, but that does not change this one. If you want to start with, 'Give me evidence for God, because I think it cannot be proven.', then start there. Just remember you asked for it. God Bless.
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
The similarities among the various Theistic traditions all over the world lend credibility to those Theistic traditions -- they by no means detract from their credibility.
@Saunders711 жыл бұрын
Amen
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
@onehappydawg i was thinking about buying that book.
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
oh and u are not sitting all cozy? i dont own many possessions considering that i walk on foot and live on foodstamps still trying to find a job, but thanks to god i am still alive.
@jabangun11 жыл бұрын
17:39 Cliffe 1 : Student 0
@saulgoodman66832 жыл бұрын
Wow, that first kid is dedicated to not seeing the point, lest he realize his need for God.
@BryceThomas1013 жыл бұрын
My question is how has this happened? Why is it that the majority of students think this way?
@JohnjOcampo Жыл бұрын
By taking away the Bible away from public schools.
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
Sorry for all the posts, almost 4 yrs it took me to find out the witnesses were wrong by reading the bible and now I am at ease knowing the truth. Like God's word says," The truth will set you free." If you have read it, then keep reading it, don't give up. 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:5-6 (KJV)
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
Im sorry forgot the comma in that sentence where i said that we think we know it all and we don't, God does. Sorry forgot the comma. I actually meant to say that god does know more than us. Yes I do think God knows more than I do because he is all knowing. Even though I believe in God, it does not mean that i should claim that I know everything because i don't. If a christian says he knows it all then he really doesn't because wisdom comes from God. Jesus is the wisdom of God, Amen.
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
I think he is just being reasonable, and admitting that the overwhelming evidence for both paints the best possible understanding we can achieve. And not sticking to the dogmatic belief that the bible is 100% literal.
@AlphaAchilles2 жыл бұрын
That first guy is not near as smart as he thinks he is.
@MegaSleep111 жыл бұрын
U can always tell when someone is losing they get emotional and when u try to answer there questions they keep making up new ones. Cliffe trashed this dude
@Melanie-icywynterr13 жыл бұрын
COME BACK TO ILLINOIS😁
@TheFishfaith11 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny when the second kid says... "why do you have to have God and not just use it as ethical teachings?" That would be like saying you make cake by adding sugar, salt..., ... , ... , ... , .... and milk. Mix it up and bake it. Why would you leave something out of the equation that's true? The kid asserts it's not true so just leave it out.
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
i never said that it was wrong to have material things, but it is sad when we have been heavily blessed we forget their is a god and get prideful. god is real and if i have offended u with my words forgive me, but it is true that we in the west think we know it all and we dont god does.
@SharifShoker11 жыл бұрын
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Romans 1:28-30 (KJV)
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. John 4:12-14 (KJV) God bless you man, and I will pray for you. Amen
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
There were plenty of witnesses like christian martyrs like polycarp, justin martyr, Irenaus, etc who by the way were tutored by John the apostle. Not, to mention Josephus an ancient jewish historian who wrote about Jesus in his book Jewish antiquities 18.3.3. Other evidence is the 5000+ manuscripts of the scriptures that are in great condition for its antiquity.
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
Us college kids get a great education, don't diss it unless you have been to school
@davidplummer2619 Жыл бұрын
There are in fact far more murders today than even 60 years ago -- no matter how you slice it -- as a gross total or as a percentage of the population that takes into account population increase. And here is a factoid that should chill everyone to the bone, which is that medical progress has hidden millions of murders. What do I mean by that? It is estimated that if medical knowledge and technology was the same today as it was in 1960, the total number of murders each year would be FIVE TIMES HIGHER.
@jamespboykin2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see such privilege... its easy to say morality is determined by society when you are privileged enough to have food on the table and go to a fine university.... Tell those like my family living in Amite County Miss during the 50s/60s that society determines morality...especially after the murder of family members for simply registering African Americans to vote...without so much as a fair trial
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
There is only one God, all human beings know for certain that his unique qualities and activities are factual, and this includes you.
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
Yeah good arguement, "I am right because i believe i am right! and you know I'm right yet pretend to not know so i wont have a conversation with you!" that's gonna get you far in life. I think Cliffe would be ashamed of you
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by the witnesses? mathew mark luke and john?
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
I don't believe something came from nothing. I also don't believe that the universe just popped into existence. I don't know what is true because are questions far over my head and i can't say that either is more likely. And no your arguement that an idea lasted a long time doesn't mean that it has much credence, evidence and professional approval is what I require(the first much more)
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
Oh ok, that makes more sense. Except for when you said that we don't think god knows as much as us... if you believe in god then you probably think that he knows a great deal more than you... the thing is a lot of people don't believe in god, but that doesn't mean they all think they know it all. In fact i would argue that people who don't believe in god would admit they do not know very much at all, compared to theists. Thats true at least in my case.
@gmh120611 жыл бұрын
I don't know where Cliff finds the patience. This guy insists that there are no moral absolutes then goes on and affirms equality, which is an absolute and that a moral system is valid if it has evidence for it! Does he mean evidence grounded in an absolute???
@ServingChrist5 жыл бұрын
The atheist student realized his cultural relativism does not hold up to scrutiny and started to lash out. His later comments showed he had not thought about this subject deeply and has different sets of standards when applying logic where is strict to opposing views and lax to his own. This is intellectually dishonest.
@arno73036 жыл бұрын
I'm a white south african and I'm right. LOL By God's grace :D
@davidplummer2619 Жыл бұрын
Why can't we just call this a "higher law" instead of labeling it God's law? The same reason we don't call an empty dinner plate full -- there's nothing there. Or as Dennis Prager once put it, what good are the Ten Commandments if there is no Commander?
@eminem1019043 жыл бұрын
The main problem with using the teachings of Jesus and throwing out Jesus is that Jesus taught he was God
@AR-ed8jp3 жыл бұрын
Jesus IS God, in human flesh. God is God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit
@twoaddictive4 жыл бұрын
The "wise" become fools. Too smart to realize how dumb their logic is. To arrogant to realize they are wrong. Scientists make horrible philosophers
@johronok40673 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Where one finds "intelligence", one is sure to find pride as well.
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
By this logic you might as well say that flying saucers are real as well. Not only are there more witnesses/testimonies, but they are occurring present day, and we could go interview the people who have the claims. The reason nobody believes the abduction/sighting stories is that they don't have any evidence of any form, other than stories, to back up the incredible claims. I'm not saying that this falsifies their claims, simply that it gives us no us good reason for believing in them.
@nateperez65876 жыл бұрын
Carrot top needs to stop smoking whatever he is smoking he's not able to think rationally and clearly...
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
I'm going to university right now, and half of my teachers are christian. The things we learn don't have anything to do with a worldview, we are just studying science. If you believe that learning through reasoning and using evidence is against your worldview, or is a world view, then you are the one who has received improper teaching.
@MyRoBeRtBaKeR3 жыл бұрын
Another question, how did our conscience come to mimic that of Gods moral code of conduct to a T? I mean God said do not kill and the majority of people see murder being wrong, no matter where in the world you may be or what culture you have co-inhabited with!
@paulmacarthur69488 жыл бұрын
The world was made through Jesus Christ. see Gospel of John Chapter 1. Sin has deformed us but Jesus came to transform the body, soul, and the spirit. knowledge comes with age and an open mind. This guy thinks there is no God thus qualifies himself as a fool. see www.gotquestions.org
@christopherlovesjesussomuc3749 Жыл бұрын
When he says at 7.35 years and years of human progress i had to laugh at that. The world is getting more evil every year.
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
Yes, and others of God's prophets. Maybe you won't believe it, but do you think that I should believe George Washington lived just because the history books say so or there is paintings and writings of him? If you don't see the bible as reliable and it's witnesses, then how are you going to believe the history books?
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
Uhh no, god has actually been pretty quiet to me my whole life
@AR-ed8jp3 жыл бұрын
Seek God. If you want God in your life, you’ll have Him. If you don’t want Him in your life, He goes away. Either way, God gives you what you want. If you turn to Him and pray, you’ll find the Savior Jesus who will live in your heart, mind and soul
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
I believe the history books because there are thousands of them, thousands of witnesses, and they don't use propaganda like methods to try to get me to believe them. And even if the bible had that another big thing it does is posit the incredible and miraculous with little to no evidence to back it up. Now my main question is how do you follow god when you don't believe the bible is right? Do you just look for meaning in your life and interpret it?
@Aaronllll7 жыл бұрын
Cliffe just butchered that kid, my gosh
@ethankeating16446 жыл бұрын
Aaron Walker it’s not about butchering kids. It’s about the gospel being presented:)
@benjaminparkin97162 жыл бұрын
People didn't know what to call the living god for thousands or millions of years. they did have ideas about what was right and wrong and could see that the world was ordered. but then jesus revealed himself. I don't know why the jews were chosen by god but they were and then jesus fulfilled the prophesy about a messiah.
@VideoGrabBag11 жыл бұрын
It's a good message at the end but It's all too new-age-y without pointing out sin (and/or being enemies of God) and the sacrificial death of the Lord Jesus Christ for sin for the salvation of ones soul from God's righteousness (wrath) and hell.
@onehappydawg11 жыл бұрын
"EVERYONE who has lived, is living and who will ever live, knows that God exists!" I'm sorry but that is a very untrue statement. If that was a true statement then why are there Hindus, Buddhist, Taoism, Efik mythology, Jainism and so on and so on. These people are worshiping gods but not the Christian God. Most people believe in some sort of god, goddess or gods but "everyone" does not know that God the Father, Jehovah, exists.
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
Well, if you don't believe his word then it still leads back into not believing in God. No, to your second question because God's word gives us meaning to our life, a hope of everlasting life, and you just don't go around interpreting the bible the way you want. Scripture interprets scripture. I know their are differing views when it comes to the scriptures, but that is also because of imperfection.
@JCSAVESSALVA171811 жыл бұрын
Im trying to be honest with my self and with others. If it doesn't seem that way, im sorry, but all I know is that there is a God and he is coming soon and he is going to bring justice to all the evil that is happening in this age. Please give God's word a chance with an open mind and look to Jesus for salvation, not religion. I did that mistake when i was catholic, then to Jehovah's witnesses, which i learned was a cult and contradicted the word of God.
@KolyaUrtz Жыл бұрын
first guy is lost...completely. 70 iq max
@WHATSUP70493 жыл бұрын
Cliffe needs to use the 10 commandments to show the sinful nature otherwise these people will not see their need for a Savior
@SuperSlartibartfast11 жыл бұрын
It should be self evident why these arguments are hostile to God. You can't have a debate or argument if both sides agree on the subject. There would be no video.The reason that some people debate him is that he sets himself up for debate. Further it is for the theist to argue that there is a god not the other way round, the theist makes the claim he has to back it up with evidence.
@mikecheswick74811 жыл бұрын
Whether or not atheists are intolerant would have nothing to do with whether or not atheism is "self-defeating". Atheism would only be "self-defeating" if it made self-contradictory claims, which is doesn't. It seems your posts are just poor attempts to string together (what you consider to be) biting rhetoric. Unfortunately they end up looking like a school child's attempt to use words he doesn't understand.
@oceanceaser4411 жыл бұрын
Uhh i've never met a atheist that says he hates god. I've only ever met theists that claim atheists hate god haha. Stop victimizing god.
@Josuke12610 жыл бұрын
Okay so this is bullshit. When the student refers to culture he means the entire world. Cliffe and every single person who has ever been just like him mean the small area around an individual. It's bullshit. That's it. Getting tired of hearing the same shit cliffe. Work on it. It's getting boring. Also, stop trying to act superior and smart. You aren't. I'm sorry but you aren't. You are just spouting out what every single major christian defender is spouting out. Then when you get called out you say "That's not what I said.". Decide what you want to lie about and stick with that cliffe.
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
u mad bro?
@Josuke12610 жыл бұрын
Yes I am. I'm not mad at the fact that cliffe believes what he believes, I'm upset at the way he lies and the fact that it's clearly bullshit when he talks.
@timh22359 жыл бұрын
jerry Guerrero Who cares what you think, if we live in a relative mindset and we live in our own reality to find what our meaning to life is.
@timh22359 жыл бұрын
jerry Guerrero You worked it out, it is a statement. A question has a question mark at the end of the sentence. I didn't think I'd find another primary school kid on youtube how's Mrs Guerrero? She was alright last night when I visited, she kept screaming jerry, didn't think you two had a thing. Your own mind is relative, do you really need to let us know what you think? There is no purpose to life, we are random particles in motion, why tell us that the video annoys you? It's just chemical reactions in your brain. Is that how you find meaning to life? By having a critical response to peoples video? What you project, you will receive. Have fun living.
@Josuke1269 жыл бұрын
Matt Law Okay, fuck you. No I don't need to let anyone know what I think. I felt like I wanted to do so, so I did it. We aren't just particles in motion, we are evolved beings. That's like looking at a cat getting run over and it's owner crying then saying "Why would you be saddened if it's just particles?". We have feelings and not everyone is a nihilist. The statement "There is no purpose to life" is bullshit. There is no predetermined purpose to life. We are forced to come up with our own. If you are going to be that much a dick to literally think I'm finding my meaning in life by posting this then go hang yourself. I didn't insult you or your intelligence, I asked about your wording since I know sometimes people can forget to put the appropriate signs when typing online. I find my meaning in life by living it just like anyone else. Stop thinking anyone who isn't exactly like you is a nihilist.