Give Us Your Money, PLEASE! | Brain Leak Ep. 55

[@Jokin_Jake]

Seeing Sean and Ethan with guns while watching at 2:30am is a crazy way to end my night.

[@brenderings]

But did they have to blur them out?!

[@Mr.Penguin0]

They probably didn't want the video age restricted

[@sanford7933]

​@@brenderingsit can get them ages restricted so they are just trying to keep in the guidelines (I dunno if I sound mean here I'm sorry if I do)

[@spiderdude1013]

*start

[@annikazara1367]

sean mentioning hozier made me so happy i gasped so hard man is literally my profile picture

[@ninanoswitz2038]

I legit was so surprised tho i shouldn‘t have been cause they are both irish. Still a nice surprise. Need to know sean‘s favorite song of hozier now

[@salemdianne]

I'm doing a bachelor's degree of communication and the weirdest thing that happens in classes is the lecturer referring to PR disasters on KZbin. It's so weird for real life to refer to digital life especially at university!

[@elsieallanpoe]

As someone who studied poetry at uni, writes poetry, and regularly goes to poetry readings: yeah, every poetry conversation is just “yeah some of them are a little weird, but yeah”

[@barbzthings]

I second the moustache take - Ethan kinda toed the line of a Pixar dad territory last week and honestly... slay.

[@Bieski5]

I loved the mustache it looks rly good on him

[@LampDoesVideogame]

Look, you guys think the adhd stuff and constant tangents might be annoying to some... The fact that this podcast is just 2 people that are the exact same people, and their adhd, is the entire reason I watch this. This is honestly the most relatable and best podcast I watch and I look forward to it every week. I love it.

[@jordandodson6938]

The taylor swift stuff had me geeked cause like 2 weeks ago the girl my ex cheated on me with TEXTED ME AND ATTACKED ME WITH HER LYRICS??? AND IT WAS SO STUPID😭

[@asexualtrickster]

That sounds pretty par for the course for Taylor Swift fans honestly 😂

[@cuddlecows]

Idk if that's just really funny or a possible sign of a serial killer? Stay safe, friend. 😮

[@Dingdong0130]

dying to know what lyrics they felt the need to send you LOL

[@bleh814]

@@Dingdong0130same😂

[@DJ-iu5bb]

The Opps are texting me Tim McGraw - Taylor Swift Lyrics *Yeah Drake Voice*

[@Lesley_RedRhody]

I hope people will cut Ethan some slack regarding his second Channel, Eef. Seán additionally has Spedicey, Evelien has Goobus, GameGrumps have The Grumps. Hell, Seán and Ethan *BOTH* have Brain Leak! Most of us viewers don’t know what _KZbin as a job_ is like. Hopefully the _“But, but, you said…”_ mentality has gone away to be replaced by the empathy these two Lovely Lads have given to literal millions!!

[@JollyRanchersGrandma]

And it's also normal in today's space to have more than 1 channel. Anyone not wanting them to branch their content I'd wager are just resistant to change. I feel like it's more of a really loud few, most people don't really care these days I'll always remember the dogpiling the community did back in the early 2010s when Tobuscus pioneered multiple channels. I definitely think the community has come around a LOT since then

[@abbyb6958]

(Genuinely asking) are there really people not happy about Ethan’s second channel?

[@Lesley_RedRhody]

@@abbyb6958 I have to admit I heard most of this episode on Apple Podcast, before Seán and Ethan uploaded it to KZbin. I probably should have prefaced my comment with that. 😳 But even before this episode, Ethan said he doesn’t look at his own comments section as often as he used to, because some of the _“You used to be better,”_ seemingly drive-by commentating was affecting his mental health.

[@jenreii]

​@@Lesley_RedRhodycan't blame anyone for that tbh, but I also never understood the need to tear someone down for no reason.

[@katierucki276]

Sean saying “I need a bell” made me flash back to Minecraft days and the ding ding ding for every thing

[@jenny151618]

"You did an accomplishment. Never remember it. Always be sad." This is my life motto XD

[@vividravus]

PMA lol

[@vinniko.amberrr]

"Letting all the air out of your tires, magic man" is such a funny sentence, I love it

[@MilesDraws_2005]

I am a die hard watcher fan and have been watching their content since buzfeed. I’m so glad they apologised and decided not too cus it broke me that I wouldn’t be able to afford it and watch their content. I feel like a goof way to raise money is a kickstarter then maybe push merch a bit more, putting some merch money aside to save for their bigger projects. Glad u guys talked abt it! I personally won’t be sour abt it cus they made a mistake which they thought would work great, thats life, and a genuine apology nowadays is rare so the fact they did mean it goes a long way.

[@maironamakesstuff]

Honestly, I didn't realize that Spedicey was owned by Seán until the latest video! I assumed it was a fan channel since it doesn't explicitly say it's his 2nd channel, and I didn't see any links for it on his main, but the "finally being honest" title finally clued me in. So creators: if you've got other channels, please link them! I'd have subbed to Spedicey ages ago had I known!

[@myyyles]

There’s no other podcast like Brain Leak, the conversations, the editing, the occasional guests, the genuine talks about some personal things-what I’m trying to say is that Brain Leak is so perfect to me, these two have made such an impactful podcast for people. 🖤😊

[@ninanoswitz2038]

sean liking hozier is my favorite thing today. my two favorites ♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@sagethez0mbie151]

Butcher Tongue is honestly my favorite song. As a Navajo it just hit in the heart because our language and culture is dying. And I just love his respect for places he’s been, honestly warms my heart. I wish I could thank him for making a song like that in general and how much it means to people like me.

[@dianne7680]

The fact that I said Hozier before Sean even says who his favorite artist is lol (because me too) Hozier is just that guy!

[@X_Vipers]

Having Ethan and seàn talk abt people saying they watched them when they were younger made me realise how long I’ve been a fan, I’ve been watching them since I was 7, I’m turning 18 in September

[@ludokrus3564]

it can feel it in my body, the leak

[@marthmallow7420]

*today on Leak Weekly*

[@theghostleader140]

You should see a doctor 😂

[@sarahseabiscuit8187]

18:55 Seán: Ding! Ding! Ding! 🔔 Me: TOP OF MORNING! 🗣️📣

[@aj27turquoiseskies]

it's pavlovian XD

[@_tripalong]

HJONK HJONK AM GOOSE!!!!!! 😃

[@poptabsinajar4801]

I wish I could tell you what insane stages of my life you both saved me from. All of it, brought peace for me, when I was literally locked in a basement, and when I was healing from that time. Thank you Sean and Ethan, for comforting that kid.

[@metrotom8189]

Hozier being Sean's favorite artist just made sense HAHA

[@TG-nd9rj]

I've been listening to Taylor's music since the first album, though I'm not one of the deranged fans people think of 😂To me, while her lyrics can sometimes come across as cringe out of context, the feeling of her music is what resonates with me. She can put a lot of emotion into something simple. The second half of the album (songs 17-31) are far more poetic to me than the first half. I completely get why she's not for everyone, and I respect that. - The song 'Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus' delves into being in a relationship with an addict and the guilt that can be associated with deciding to leave them. I don't know what that experience is like in my own personal life, but there's so much raw emotion in the song that I'm right there with her. - The song 'Peter' alludes to Peter Pan, singing to someone who you thought would come back to find you, only to realize you've grown and matured while they haven't, and it's time for you to move on. - The song 'Cassandra' references an ancient Greek priestess who was cursed to always foretell true events, but no one would ever believe her. Taylor uses that as a metaphor for her own life, where she's been criticized for some of the things she's said/done, but later on when it turns out she was right, people say nothing. So yeah, some of her lyrics can be off-putting or out of place, but there's a lot more to it than that.

[@Floofy_fluff]

Totally agree! Some of this album feels to me like she wrote it to be “cringe” and simple on purpose because she was venting and just wanted to get the emotions out. She’s obviously proven that she is capable of complex lyricism with folklore and evermore, and TTPD feels like a vent album to close that chapter of her life. It’s not perfect but neither is she, which is conveyed through the songs itself

[@HopeHendershot-Moskal]

Sean needs to find his old bell so he can do the Bell of Analogy.

[@waterbottleboy8189]

My favorite line is, “Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto” (or some other videogame I can’t remember)

[@mikchimin]

...I really thought you were joking. But I looked it up...wHAT?

[@LegenDove]

Watcher stuff starts at 21:40

[@Danielle-lv3xp]

I love you both respectfully and wholeheartedly. When Ethan did that backflip for thankmas, I have a crush, not like 'The Closing Shift'. You both are so genuinely amazing and kind. Sean, if you happen to see this, I met someone from another country who said they feel like a novelty character in people's lives living in America. I'm wondering if you have advice for this as she's a mother and a wife and genuinely an interesting and beautiful person. Also, I do believe that KZbin is becoming increasingly more difficult because of current sensitivities. You both have helped me smile when I didn't think I could. Thank you ❤

[@Kati_P]

My husband died last year, I'm working part time and fighting for Disability due to a slew of medical conditions, my tax return is delayed because of the extra paperwork since my husband died so I'm flat broke and in danger of having my electricity shut off, and I have ZERO negative feelings about Sèan being ready for a change and expressing how doing KZbin affects him. Burnout is a real thing, regardless of what job you're doing. Especially if you let it take over too much of your life, even if you love it. Having to answer to a corporation that doesn't always have clear and consistent rules and policies, and having very little recourse when being arbitrarily punished by said corporation for an infraction that isn't clearly explained or that others are doing but not getting punished for must be extremely frustrating. KZbin is not always a fair taskmaster. It's okay to want to change up the direction you've been going if you feel it's not right for you anymore, too. And if he'd just up and quit without an explanation everyone would have been really upset and butthurt. People need to stop being dicks when it comes to creators talking about their burnout and the need for them to make changes in their life. I'd rather have Sèan step back and do what fulfills him than being miserable and churning out content he's not enthusiastic about having to produce.

[@Sezenian]

Hey, if it means anything and if you will ever read this.. The content you both make now-a-days appeals to me more than ever before, I absolutely love watching you both grow as people and how you changed from great to even better. This podcast for example is now my biggest comfort watch on the entire platform and it's now *the* thing where I'm like "Honey, I can't now, there's a new episode out" XD I just wanted to let you know. You're both doing great, and I know you both will continue to grow and create amazing stuff, no matter *where* or when!

[@alexismcloughlin]

Seeing Sean and Ethan with guns to start off the podcast at 5:30am is a crazy way to start my morning

[@Oliver.Verdant]

Also, I don’t know if it’s just me But I’m really not vibing with Let’s Play channels anymore. I’m sticking around channels for their personality and their subject matter. I’ll tune into live streams and stay to watch if the game is novel or the content creator can riff off of it. I enjoy creators covering games for their historical relevance, their bizarre nature or just commenting about why they like or hate it. I didn’t know about this podcast, but I’m already hooked on it. 😉

[@izoraiza7169]

i listen to some podcasts on youtube while crafting with uv resin, using clay, and doing all sorts of crafts. while watching this one i was working on a resin craft that can hang in a car or by a window like a suncatcher. sometimes I replay old games i don't need to entirely focus on while listening to podcasts. i don't really watch those channels that do let's play as much anymore. maybe some minecraft or some new game i want to learn about before potentailly buying but never have i ever watched a let's play channel since The Last Of Us for the playstation 3 came out unless it was in my youtube shorts while scrolling by any chance. I rarely get hooked on podcasts. there is maybe 2 i watch and this one is the one i watch the most. i like that you enjoy it as well but i can totally understand the let's play channel thing.

[@laurensova05]

In the discussion of the TS vs Hozier poetry discussion - they're both poetry but different kinds. To me, one is not better than the other. One may sound more "raw" (I'm having a hard time coming up with a better word?) and the other sounds more "flowy" (again, lack of a better word to describe it lol). But they're both poetry, and some prefer one over the other and that's okay!

[@PrestonTMB]

i never actually fully took notice to ethans backround i love the changing colour

[@Ryansk2003]

This was a weirdly beautiful conversation

[@chupacabra-smith]

I feel like there's only ever been one youtuber who managed to make whatever they wanted to and never utilized a second channel, patreon, sponsorships, merch or any other avenue of income and that was Jenna Marbles. Fucking legend, that woman. There will never be another like her

[@maironamakesstuff]

58:51 Ethan, if it makes you feel better, I missed out on Unus Annus but watch you now and subbed to your 2nd channel! As a grown woman who's a giant nerd with the sense of humor of a 12 year old boy, I've spent 2 effing decades suppressing that side for the sake of others, but creators like you and Seán let me feel more comfortable with letting that part of me come out more often to just have fun 😝

[@heyitsalaina7579]

I totally get this. Money doesn’t make a person happy. We made pretty good money last year and right now we don’t, I’m not any happier now than I was then. So make your life about things that bring you joy.

[@Xxanimeluver5062xX]

Thank y’all for being my bed time podcast every night.

[@carb_8781]

hozier is my favourite artist at the moment tooooo and it was so nice to hear sean and ethan talking about him

[@cold-soba]

Love hearing some of my favourite people talk about my favourite things

[@sodalexa]

honestly i had to come here after listening on spotify because i just HAD to see the chaos!! i love this episode, it was a good balance of goofs and talking about things that have happened recently! honestly...might be my fave episode yet!!

[@jaywasablindpirate]

Now I would like to see Sean interview Hozier

[@ninanoswitz2038]

There would be so much irish…i realllly want to see this. Whenever sean hears an irish person speak, he speaks with a heavier accent. Oh this would be such a fun interview

[@tannersebastian3791]

If by interview you mean make out with, then yes

[@jaywasablindpirate]

@@tannersebastian3791 tanner what

[@tannersebastian3791]

​@@jaywasablindpirate did I stutter?

[@charlenelaurin1862]

Would you guys do a Q&A episode? I think it would be cool to ask you questions about the pod! My question would be: Your add clips sometimes are soooo funny, do you have to send it and have it approved like that?? 😂 Leaker from Montreal

[@stitchpines4626]

I still watch both of you since so long ago and I’m happy watching still both of you are awesome people 💚💙

[@bellaredlon2229]

ABS- always be sad. Sean, don’t you remember PMA? POSITIVE!!! MENTAL!!!! ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤️

[@corninthegob]

Well bc yall talked about it, I figured as a long time lurker fan that I've been watching BOTH of ya since 2016 on various accounts. It might feel disheartening at times to run into ppl who only know u from one thing, or who stopped watching, but dats not everyone, it's a big world out there B-) the leak never stops (i need a plumber desperately)

[@ELLINKZ]

I’ve been watching Jack since I was 11 and I’m now turning 21 :)

[@mikchimin]

I was 10 and I'm turning 20! Wow has time flown :'))

[@vividravus]

I was 22, now 31 :]

[@wolfiemuse]

29:35 they backpedaled here. They originally weren’t going to put it on KZbin except the first episode of each show.

[@chicabear]

They were originally going to take everything off the KZbin channel and put the previously free content behind the paywall too

[@wolfiemuse]

@@chicabear they weren’t going to take old content down, they were leaving that up from the beginning. They were going to do just the first episode from each season on YT and that’s it. Their YT would have become a huge advertisement for themselves, just with more steps. They have basically made out like bandits because: A: they’re going to continue getting significant YT revenue B: they are keeping their patreon C: they are keeping their streaming service. So they basically made out like absolute fucking bandits in this situation yet people applaud them for “making the right decision”. They didn’t make the right decision. The right decision is to scrap that entire idea. It’s not the paying for it that makes the streamer a problem, although that’s a big part of it. The problem with it is the streamer existing at all. It is a bad business idea and if they are struggling with money, the amount of money they’re going to have to pour into website maintenance, server space, card payment services, etc etc is going to be more trouble than it’s worth.

[@chicabear]

@@wolfiemuse no they were going to remove the stuff from KZbin, there's a variety article that Ryan shared on twitter that said that was their original plan. After they changed their minds on that decision they started deleting comments that suggested otherwise and subtly gaslit people into believing that was never the plan. That's one of the main things that upset people. I've also seen people claim they already started to take down the videos before they backtracked but I don't think that's true

[@wolfiemuse]

@@chicabear huh. I’d be interested to see that

[@davidcroucher6262]

(To the tune of Bad Guy by Billie Eilish) It’s that time of the week Listen to the bois speak With a Frank Herbert’s Dune geek & drank his own urine freak Things are not bleak Laugh until my bones creak This podcast is totes peak Highlight of my whole week Yes it’s Brain Leak Bruh!

[@kara1696]

Waking up to see a new Brain Leak is amazing 😍

[@FriedEggandChips]

Please, me, I'm waving! Musical suggestion time - Sleep Token. Dudes writing god tier poetry and got the damn music to go with it. Listen to the whole trilogy, front to back, all in one - go!

[@myyyles]

I LOVE Brain Leak so much y’all. 🖤

[@ivy666quinn]

Wednesdays are the best days. Happy Leakday everyone!! This episode was so great. You guys always make me so happy. I love the way you're able to talk about serious topics in a fun way.

[@abby_420_]

IVE BEEN SAYING THAT SEAN AND HOZIER LOOK LIKE LONG LOST BROTHERS

[@someoneinteresting4663]

Sean mentioning Hozier as I’m currently counting down till when I get to go to a Hozier concert

[@MiguelIbarra-v7o]

I been here with u Spence 14 years old I’m 23 now and still follow the pods and current videos 🎉#truesupporter

[@mattkroll4464]

"Do you not have $6" reaks of blizzards line of "do you guys not have phones?"

[@orchids4256]

Sean, i just want to say that you using analogies so much makes me feel less alone because I do it all the time, and always wondered if it was just a me thing. Like being an octopus in a school of fish, but now there is another octopus, and you're less alone.😊

[@nikosstories8524]

I’ll say this about the watcher thing as someone who watches them. They fed us eat the rich to us and expected us to pay instead of promoting their already existing Patreon. I also think it landed so poorly because of how manipulative it felt from the beginning moments. I also think that introducing the new Steven Lim show where he flies around to eat expensive foods. Honestly it pissed me off that they’re asking for my money to fly around and eat expensive foods. I think their apology was okay, the apology made me reconsider the hard stance decision but I was genuinely taken aback by their decision. Oh and the fact where they tried to cover up the fact that they were DEFINITELY taking the videos down. But truthfully I don’t think this was ever gonna fly with the audience they acquired.

[@eevilauntie]

Yeah, it seemed like they were really out of touch with their audience, so much so that it's almost kind of insulting. From what I've seen, and in my own opinion, people don't want bigger and fancier productions and aren't interested in whatever Steven Lim gets up to, they just want more of the core shows with Shane and Ryan. Personally my favourite is Puppet History, it strikes a good balance between a goofy homemade feel and high production values.

[@bob8675309666]

@@eevilauntie They don't care what the audience wants, it's not about the audience. THEY want to be bigger and fancier. They have said that was always the goal for their channel. They want to be high-end, they don't want to share screen time with ads, they don't want anymore feedback from their audience. They don't want anyone to have anything to say about what they do. They just want to make shows and put it out there to make money.

[@SpookiCooki]

I envy Swifties. They get to listen to their favourite artists new album and I have to wait till the end of SEPTEMBER for mine. I've waited a year for the release date. (It's Nightwish). As for Watcher; I was a subscriber of them. Shane and Ryan has a fantastic dynamic. It's like Mark and Ethan, Rhett and Link, Dan and Arin. But that ordeal made me feel icky about them so I have not re-subbed.

[@leelong1708]

No fucking way I just heard the name Hozier come out of Sean's mouth. I think I will actually explode

[@Shadowbiology]

jack inspired me to get my ears pierced and stretched. i am now at 7/16th of an inch. one size away from my goal of half an inch. thankyou jack so much.

[@shannonbrown8591]

I love seeing the variety in your guys' channels! If it's on a second channel, that is totally okay and I will be there enjoying content to the fullest💖

[@johnlipp14]

Holy shit! Brain Leak is over a year old already!? How did it fly by so fast!

[@SamanthaSt.George]

i was hoping the title meant we would finally get merch!

[@chaos460]

Ik ur probably not gonna see this Ethan, but I really like the recent content you make! I find a lot of the stuff you make as content that I'd like to make, very simplistic and stuff you actually enjoy

[@Jessica-uo4qk]

Nobody knows what's going on in someone else's head, I wish we could all try and remember that before we talk to each other, it might help people show more compassion. Of course valid criticism is always fine, but I'm disappointed to hear how many people on TikTok were dismissing Sean's depression just because he's successful - like since when has that been a gurantee of mental health? As corny as it sounds we are all on our own journey and face our own hardships.

[@jungshook4669]

i luv hoziers new song. i belt it out every time because of course !!! amazing

[@Teebyzmal]

These drop suddenly on an afternoon for me, always a pleasant surprise!

[@sardina28]

I love learning hozier lore from you two lol ❤

[@izoraiza7169]

I can't wait for my baby nephew to grow up and start watching brain leak and all the channels I watched as a kid and still watch. I will get him into the happy wheels videos I watched so he can see him scream happy wheels like I used to. I already got him into Minecraft with the Minecraft plushies and watching me play minecraft pocket edition on my phone. I will get him to play happy wheels if I can as well. I will make memories with him he won't forget one day. My twin brother will one day be like why do I hear jacksepticeye screaming happy wheels from your room and I will tell him our nephew had to watch a happy wheels video at least once.

[@jenreii]

"Ethan Nestor-Darling" ABSOLUTELY sounds expensive

[@_Geist]

both of you are doing so well, and i mean in the mindfulness sort of way-- it's uplifting to see your freeform content and streams of thought, and i only started watching in the last few years-- cuz of the algorithm, i guess? i heard about y'all but forgot to check you out til youtube finally started suggesting videos from either of y'all's channels. i gotta say, as a relatively new fan, i'm not going anywhere. :] i'm excited to see either of your new uploads! love the new eefs channel btw and think it's a GREAT idea. sending all the loving vibes to you and yours, fellas

[@justsomejoe8072]

What the hell man, i had no idea this channel existed. Let the binging begin. 🐋🎉

[@ketvanscyoc5509]

"Letting all the air outta your tires, magic man" ima be saying that for a while

[@AspiringToFailure]

I've seen the Spedicey channel around, how am I only just hearing that it's Sean's second channel, I thought it was a fan channel haha. brb gotta go subscribe

[@soupy_soup2]

I had the pleasure of going to a Hozier concert like a week ago. I’m glad to know that Sean likes him too.

[@hansvonheileger5791]

My favorite Musical Artist is Cygnus! Closely followed by Infected Mushroom! I was a huge fan of Watcher, and was very disappointed in what they tried to do, how they did it, and why... but their roll back and how they are going forward is acceptable. Still they will have an upward battle in order to get back up to me being a huge fan again, but they at least have the chance. ( I have never been, nor will I ever be, a fan of Steven Lim.) Their Apology was the best one I have seen on KZbin.... but it's never a good look to have to even do an Apology. (I always give three chances, but after the second I am VERY wary of them)

[@itsnikolet]

did i just pause the podcast cause i finally remembered to go preorder the comic books? yes, yes i did.

[@pedrostormrage]

17:43 "My brain is just like 'You did an accomplishment? Never remember it. Always be sad. ABS' " To think the inventors of PMA (positive mental attitude) and ABS (always be sad) are the same person 🎭 1:01:08 "Hello, internet. I was MatPat before MatPat!" If only you had shown MatPat your OG intro ("Hello, all you beautiful people out there") when he was on the podcast 😂

[@SkyKin]

Give money 👀 in these hard times it ahould be the other way around * Kek * Another weekly episode, wonder whatll be in store this time around. Breaks have been rather interesting while listening to topics discussed for the week. Danke for sharing Hope everyone is doing well, Stay Leaky Bros 🧠 😎 👊

[@KhaosAgent]

Ethan just wanna say I discovered your videos through when you were on game grumps and I enjoy your content of just you! I've never seen UA as it was before I found you 😢

[@RUGVEDX]

Feels good to be early for a brain leak podcast

[@vanalibra]

It’s the best time of the week! Brain Leak time! Never been this early 🎉

[@mavvi3303]

Brain Leak makes me so happy honestly 😊

[@ScottyForA]

Favorite artist.... NF all day

[@Pation655]

BRaIN lEAk!!! how to make a voice crack sound good

[@jungshook4669]

that time frame is extremely accurate im sorry to tell you😭 -another 20 year old who has been watching since 10 years old

[@Scumoftheearth-ot4sk]

Ain’t no way… Sean is a Stormlight fan?!? 7:10 dear lord, I didn’t know Brandon Sanderson got here! I imagine this comment will be buried and my question unanswered, but Sean, have you read his other works? They’re so good too. I’m waiting desperately for Wind and Truth to come out just like you, I’ve even gotten friends hooked on Sanderson, like some sort of drug. I’m so happy an internet figure I admire loves my hero’s works!

[@Septic-Hearts]

I find so much comfort in seeing that the youtubers I've watched for so long are still self-aware enough to recognise how tone deaf other youtubers can be in their decisions. I stopped watching a lot of people who set up pay walls or complained about doing 'poor' things like drinking tap water or who just completely belittled or demanded a lot of their audience so it's nice to see that the main people I watch never let any privilege make them out of touch with reality. I'll be the first to admit that you guys can afford a lot more than I'll probably ever be able to but at least you can acknowledge that and not dismiss the shit I have to go through. I'm not gonna pretend I get you or anything for that. I just like that, as an audience, I never felt like your content was this industrial corporate thing.

[@wolfiemuse]

33:15 I personally think their apology was more damage control than sincerity. I’m not sure they understand why it was such a big deal based on the apology. It seems like they just did what they thought would “fix” things.

[@bob8675309666]

Thank you. It certainly seems that way. How they proposed to "fix" things seemed more like a preconceived back up plan. It was something they could have always done, but they wanted to see if the way that would get them more money would work first. I loved Ryan and Shane, I still do, but this makes me feel differently about them. I've said before, I've watched them, supported them, followed them for nearly ten years. They didn't think about us for one second.

[@saulitix]

Who are they talking about?

[@wolfiemuse]

@@saulitix TLDR; two guys who started a mystery show on YT called Buzzfeed Unsolved like 14 years ago that was insanely popular and then like 4 years ago started their own channel/network thing called Watcher where they do a mystery show, a ghost hunting show, an info-tainment puppet show about history, etc.

[@saph.ire23]

Sean I'm 19 and I was also watching you at like 10 years old😂😂😂😂😂 we grew up with you😂

[@Floofy_fluff]

As someone who likes both TS and Hozier, they’re both very capable lyricists who have proven that they are capable of complex, poetic lyrics imo. Hozier’s lyrics lean more “traditional” poetry whereas she has more contemporary influence. But that is not to say every song has to be lyrically complex like Sean said. Especially in TTPD where she says some pretty strange lines that aren’t deep at all, and I don’t think it’s supposed to be, because ultimately it’s a vent album, but there are more poetic songs in the second half of the album that showcases her skills better. Tbh you have to actually dig into Taylor’s discography to hear her lyrically complex songs because those are rarely popular outside of the community (cowboy like me and ivy for example) and her lyrical “fumbles” are typically what goes viral. And Hozier obviously debuted with lyrically rich songs. They’re both incredible lyricists and both are very inspirational from a writing standpoint.

[@sarahvonhoene]

54:22 🤣 that was so unexpected, I love it!

[@AbBeiBei526]

Perfect timing I can listen while doing my workout ! 👏🤣 Heck yea

[@invaderaries7364]

Edgar Allen Poe poetry: Suddenly, I heard a tapping, as if someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door. Taylor Swift "poetry": You ate seven chocolate bars

[@insomnialemonloser4969]

I know this is a joke and as much as I hate to defend Taylor Swift… any song is considered poetry.

[@sophies_sketches]

I knew from the title they were talking about Watcher 😭

[@emmettmartens2754]

another bell to the list, bell of analogy

[@aricheec7722]

IGN is still a crazy good get for any creator and I'm proud asf of you Sean!!!

[@malps7028]

9:01 - 9:24 That was incredibly sweet! I can relate to Sean though. Be easy on yourself! Easier said than done x) I do feel bad though. I can’t relate to the whole KZbin algorithm thing because I’m not a big creator. I’m just a viewer. It must suck that it takes away some of your creativity and stuff. But some things that Sean has talked about, I can relate to. Like comparing myself to others, and being hard on myself.