Giving My Perspective: Angelika Oles, Drama Channels and More

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[@Charlotte-jq9xt]

Being a youtuber sounds EXHAUSTING

[@kdragon713]

Right

[@sunshinet90]

Absolutely. These days you gotta fully vet someone to make sure they didn’t commit any unforgivable sins before daring to associate publicly with them because if they do something to get canceled, you’re gonna go down too

[@Charlotte-jq9xt]

@Death 》 oooh that's a take I definitely don't agree with, my friend 😊

[@anyalaASMR]

@Death 》 They’re being paid for doing something, what is your definition of a job?

[@auniazahra1943]

And it all started with a collab on the top drama of 2020 😬 they missed one

[@gr0mling635]

I get why Jenna left the Internet

[@autumnroy]

Fr tho

[@lvllavahead]

THIS

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

You said it all without saying much. 👏🏾

[@marisp2588]

I miss her, but honestly don't blame her whatsoever with the mess that it is

[@lvllavahead]

@@marisp2588 it is a literal dumpster fire.

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

I hate how changing your opinion on things based on the most up to date ACCURATE information is considered “flip flopping” 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@kathleenem9207]

They’ll be changing their opinion and reassessing their positions about a lot of things in life- it’s called growing up.

[@ilisten2thecureandcry]

fr !! it’s completely normal and healthy to change your opinion on someone after finding out they did something that you don’t think is okay.

[@merwanerants1917]

I think they say its flipflopping cuz she did this several time. And most of the time i agree with her. However if someone is your friend u should talk to them privately before shaming them publically

[@lindamorph694]

Is considered flip flopping only for those bias drama channels, they use all the excuses and never apply to them

[@TaelurAlexis]

@@merwanerants1917 she didn’t even shame her Jesus

[@goober48975]

If your worst criticism is that you're "rude", especially coming from openly racist people, then I think you're doing pretty good. You don't owe any alliance especially when it comes to speaking up about racism.

[@ladycaticorn2950]

Also, all these men attacking her seem like misogynists which make their criticism of Hannah invalid in my eyes.

[@shamsomar2004]

No its not just rude , the angelika situation they were both in the wrong but if u nicely invite someone and then they go to thousands of people telling them that u are scared of them then that’s hypocritical not just rude because she gave them the impression that she would come then out of the blue she made a video dissing them

[@goober48975]

@@shamsomar2004 i couldn’t care less about her hurting racist ppls feelings ❤️

[@justanopinionsincerelynoof3860]

True, true....

[@audiwinn3934]

Thisssss

[@InVitroxoxo]

rich lux literally said jeffree star's racism was an opinion....that's all i needed to know about him

[@aintzane6281]

@Smiya Coron yeah and people just said it was taken out of context I hate it here

[@gothfemboybf4936]

isnt he on jeffrees payroll or friends list or some shit? of course hes gonna bend over backwards at jeffrees fingersnap

[@Princessbubblegum567]

He is such a Jeffree Star kiss ass. It’s nauseating

[@user-re4kc9on6f]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@kaori8208]

Is it not an opinion?

[@c.c.2763]

Why call it 'flip-flopping?' People are allowed to change their opinions on things.🤷‍♀️

[@blaake7892]

uh oh we're not supposed to change our opinions about things no one is supposed to know you can do that

[@daniminebaunin6633]

Especially if you change your opinion after getting new informations.

[@laurenvcouto]

i’m the biggest flip flopper ever. i’m constantly changing opinions i was sure were set in stone whenever i get new information. it’s called growing.

[@tayter_chip]

ok but why has this situation devolved into “Hannah is a bad friend” when it started because of Angelika’s racism/micro aggressions towards POC 🤔

[@crownofeunoia1907]

Because people who tried to forced that issue are uncomfortable about actually dealing with racism or not care about combating racism. Like the “bad friend” spiel is a bunch of crap when you realized that Hannah has a lot of friend and it originated from the Mean Girls Drama Channels because Hannah embarrassed them because she wasn’t okay with Rich Lux’s racism like they were. People hate on Hannah because her words aren’t empathy platitudes. She actually try to follow up on them.

[@tayter_chip]

@@crownofeunoia1907 you’re totally right.. calling people out on racism is uncomfortable and people see it as an attack instead of an opportunity to learn and better themselves.. it sucks that Hannah is being labeled as the bad guy here

[@EnchantingWings1]

I haven't commented on anything about this thing, as I feel like it's not my place to accept apologies that aren't for me. I'm white, not trans (but part of the LGBT community) and feel it's not my place to be accepting those apologies from anyone. I admit, I have had drama of my own earlier on in the year with some people from my uni's LGBT community because I knew very little and trans issues and history, and had no idea of how hard they're digging for their rights. I only became aware that some people are trans at the LGBT pride event in 2018. Ever since that time, I've been talking with my trans friends and reading more about trans issues where I am and globally. I have also had little idea of the struggle BIPOC people go through until I went to my university's unconscious bias training, though have been on receiving end of microaggression and know how it affects people. I've been reading about BIPOC experiences and educating myself more. It's something I hope more people do, educate others and themselves. And I hope that Angelika does take that path and educate herself. And the microaggression and racism education side of things should be what we want from her and give her ways of learning about these issues.

[@tayter_chip]

@@EnchantingWings1 i love how you said you took the drama you were in as an opportunity to learn and educate yourself! That’s exactly how we should behaving and it’s admirable to be able to self reflect in that way. Obviously it’s impossible for someone to know everything about LGBT or BIPOC issues, but when we’re called out on problematic things we do/say we should be open to learning and changing instead of digging our heels in and refusing to acknowledge how our behavior could be harmful.

[@EnchantingWings1]

@@tayter_chip my mum and I have those discussions all the time about current events, especially that where we come from is a horrible place to be at the moment due to LGBTQ, women's health and racism issues. We talk about it all openly and my mum has always had an open mind to people. Plus, I think living in Scotland has opened us up to a more diverse culture. Education when we mess up is important, as is self reflection. Especially on such important issues. It's how I wish people were. Open to discussion, debate and learning and self reflection.

[@anastasiagirl1342]

Am I the only one who finds it a bit ridiculous that they’re still upset about her not going to a party?

[@CJAmara]

It’s so childish. Completely and utterly childish. Hannah is not compelled to attend any party

[@d.o.m.i.]

I don't. I find it UTTERLY ridiculous

[@blessedbrebre]

They are mean girls quite literally.

[@lindamorph694]

Their goal was to recruit sg bc she's popular

[@Izzy-uz1cf]

the big white drama channels didnt care about angelika being accused of microaggressions but cared about friend drama

[@arugulaempire8779]

So racist. C'mon man.

[@jessicamartinez257]

I think too they have been jelly of Smokey for a bit and saw a chance to attack her. So proud of Smokey for this video 🖤🖤🖤

[@MMMMD1]

@@arugulaempire8779 how is it racist

[@brightstars1697]

@@MMMMD1 Because they are seeing it from a privileged standing point where they’ve never been through what POC go through everyday. They completely disregarded the real issue, Angelikas micro aggression, and turned in to two girls having a cat fight. It’s also very misogynistic for the men who made their videos with never ending ads to view this situation as simply that.

[@Izzy-uz1cf]

@@Amandinhad15 yeah i was subscribed to her but had no idea any of this was even going on bc she barely addressed it.. probably to avoid it

[@savannahmills2494]

I’m honestly sick of the idea that gay men can’t be misogynistic because some of them are the first ones to take the opportunity to belittle women and bully them.

[@PoonaniiTsunamii]

People would be surprised the amount of misogyny in the gay community. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@gurvirj479]

💯💯💯

[@yuks705]

Trueeeeeeeee!!!

[@PoonaniiTsunamii]

@Smiya Coron I wanted to say exactly this, but I didn’t have the words. They are every bit as entitled in their behavior towards women as their straight counterparts.

[@mielpop2571]

I feel like people also don't talk about the racism in they gay community

[@_arod1313]

I really loved Angelika’s channel until she continuously showed that she is unwilling to accept or address criticism even though she constantly calls out other creators for not taking accountability and being problematic

[@caro-lel]

yep to this day nothing has changed on her channel or in how she presents herself

[@olive92]

yeah, she's super manipulative in how she presents criticism of her to her audience and hides behind her white tears

[@r3allyr3agan]

@Japanese baby I really enjoy her content where is all this hate coming from?

[@lovelylinds]

Calling out your friends when they do something wrong IS being a good friend.

[@ilisten2thecureandcry]

this !!!

[@kaylawashere1]

Exactly!! Being a good friend doesn’t mean kissing ass.

[@jasonmack2569]

"What's this all about?" "Two white women got into an argument while three gay men stirred the pot." "OK, but what's it all about." "Well I think I heard something about racism, but nobody is sure."

[@happyblacklegends]

😂💀

[@emilybroadstone6683]

Yes!!!! 👌

[@gabriellestrandquist2950]

🤣🤣😭

[@JacobMeye]

I mean 👌🏻 A+ summary 😂😂😂

[@stefanievillegas]

Ahhh welcome to the internet lol

[@emilybroadstone6683]

Let's talk about how the "drama community" made this whole thing a "cat fight" between two white influencers rather than focusing on microagression.

[@noa4644]

This comment section is a bunch of white people deciding what’s racist or what’s not and SG liking negative comment about angelika. I am sick of white people using racism for their petty fights.

[@iridizousa8578]

this 🔝🔝🔝

[@danihartery-smith1140]

Truth

[@beyonce3]

@@noa4644 I cosign

[@hubbardlaluce3932]

@@noa4644 please ok fake ass civil rights leader. If get out the comment section and join your local naacp and make change instead of Clout Comments

[@crystalmarie2448]

I really dislike this trend where, when someone is like "this thing you did isn't great" the response is "well YOU'RE NOT PERFECT!!" Like. We know. No one is perfect. Perfection isn't what's being asked for- transparency isn't impossible, and neither is accountability. I'm sorry you were put in this situation and lots of other drama channels are using it as an excuse to get out their aggression about other problems they have with you.

[@palladium607]

Agree

[@trowai6566]

Agreed! I've heard this called "what aboutism"

[@crystalmarie2448]

@@nickyb.5170 YES! Like. I wish that when people got called out they'd focus on fixing what happened, instead of calling all their friends to dig up dirt on that person. Because then it just becomes an endless loop of tea videos and draggings and the actual issue doesn't even get resolved.

[@xoxsaimaxox9117]

"Some people say nobody's perfect but expect perfection" -NF

[@crystalmarie2448]

@@xoxsaimaxox9117 yuupp. "Nobody's perfect but also treat me perfectly"- they want you to cut them slack for not being perfect but not cut ANYONE ELSE SLACK lol

[@StephanieHarlowe]

This is why I have no friends

[@myab6550]

Same smh

[@sobalia]

Omg I love u hi

[@sarab3417]

Lmao stephaniiie. Maybe it’s why you’d rather read about dead people 🙃

[@thesovgc]

Fr

[@catieeclaire]

stephanie lmao

[@oritsela]

Yikes. This is why I could never do youtube. My anxiety is through the roof and I am not even personally involved 😖

[@ADayToForget321]

bro same i am way too sensitive for all this lol

[@mnemeikyu9299]

Literally me right now as I consider whether or not I truly want to try doing twitch..

[@lilhonor5425]

Same this kinda stuff stresses me out

[@nehajoshi4089]

@@ADayToForget321 i have always wanted to post vids with my voice in it but i am literally so terrified that im gonna say something that might be perceived wrongly🤧 i am too scared of the youtube community

[@ADayToForget321]

@@nehajoshi4089 i would be cancelled in 2 seconds if i was an influencer lmaooo

[@hellomoto5870]

Imagine turning down an invitation and never living it down. My social anxiety’s worst nightmare

[@marisp2588]

Omg I feel you on a spiritual level 😭

[@Cocolagaffe18]

that's honestly one of the things I was thinking, no way in hell would I have agreed to go to a party with people I don't know or calmly dealt with someone publicly calling me out for not going

[@katerrinah5442]

Not just never live it down but have the internet put you on blast for it????

[@gis3ll3ramir3z99]

Right. Over something so tiny and dumb.

[@catebloods4897]

Are you ............. me?

[@jaceearly3393]

As a transman, I very much respect how she admitted that she doesn't actually know what transphobia is like, and therefore apologized for the statement. Thank you

[@mishmaoulmoustahil9648]

Nick, Dustin and Rich are the holy trinity of negativity and bullying

[@vanessarayfox]

Their truly the worst.

[@tugger]

@@vanessarayfox hate to be that bitch but they're '="a" they're = they are apostrophes are there for vowel hops

[@billyt8868]

@@tugger omg stfu

[@lindamorph694]

Petty Paige too

[@synonymous_]

@@tugger Is it necessary? Is it helpful? Is it kind?

[@CJAmara]

The sad thing about this situation is that people are talking about two white women having an argument instead of the micro aggressions that are behind this whole thing.

[@ece2382]

^^^^

[@kerri6011]

literally

[@k.s.7627]

LITERALLY

[@nehajoshi4089]

exactly

[@sunnyside7116]

You said it perfectly

[@ritiaggarwal995]

Wait why are we holding smaller creators to higher standards than bigger creators? Didn’t James Charles JUST collaborate with Kylie like a month ago? Y’all really selective

[@daisybutinhertennisoutfit]

this.

[@sararinaldi3660]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@gis3ll3ramir3z99]

💯💯

[@smize4652]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@mariella2884]

Oh but remember James was already called out and so now he’s immune. Sure he didn’t actually take real accountability for falsely promoting a product to his fans for help from a company, but who cares right can’t ever address anything about can we. Yeah, I completely agree it is all selective and I don’t know how people don’t see how damaging it is to real changes.

[@aniyamarie8370]

Bailey Sarian once said, “Get better hobbies, people” and I stand with her on that. I shouldn’t be surprised this is the stance Angelika and the others have taken because this is a common trait between white KZbinrs like them. They make offensive comments to the marginalized groups and rather than be held accountable for them, they turn the situation into something the world shouldn’t be focused on. I’ll admit: I was disappointed to see a few of your responses defending her. However, there was a part of me that believed Angelika hadn’t told you the whole story as she wanted you to continue thinking of her as a saint. The only person that “threw a friend under the bus” was her as she watched people attack you and refused to apologize for what she said to the BIPOC community. What you did was take the proper steps in practicing white allyship and I’m happy.

[@marjanteraa7654]

Angelica is polish. So she cant be a racist, she isn't

[@aniyamarie8370]

@@marjanteraa7654 I’m going to need you to come back to me again when you understand the difference between race (the color of someone’s skin) and nationality (the place where someone is from).

[@marjanteraa7654]

I AM sorry. I'm dutch so some words seems the same to me. It is not my intentie to onderschat these things and u realy do understand the differents

[@r3allyr3agan]

@@aniyamarie8370 okay but what did she do or say that was racist. I've watched her for a long time and I've never seen her say anything racist.

[@skeletonjock3685]

Everyone in that drama channel friend group really is just like “lux said the N word but he’s changed!!!! He’s not racist anymore he’s different!!!” then continue to drag Hannah for being rude about not going to a holiday party a whole year after it happened. Cringe. Anyway stan bettering yourself and growing as a person

[@Lauren-hs5ht]

Exactly, especially when he was like ugh why are you calling me out for this, I’m sorry I guess. Like NO apology worth listening to. Fuck dude, so gross

[@chantalsmells]

this is petty paige’s mentality, she’s friends with rich lux and her husband is his manager so she won’t criticize him, but she hates Hannah for not defending Paige when she inserted herself on that live and got tons of backlash, later calling Hannah a performative activist because she didn’t defend Paige(a black woman)…….ok🤣

[@Sabreigha]

as a black woman can I say...this entire situation was stupid, over blown, and absolutely unconstructive...

[@dummy1004]

especially if they just gon make it about themselves anyway, like srsly move tf on

[@dayoolorunnisola162]

Honestly 🙄

[@Ella-el3lt]

Agreed. None of this needed to be a thing.

[@erikapogorzelska9065]

agreed and also thank u for commenting cuz i just subscribed :-) i've been trying to find new creators to watch in the beauty community!

[@lozzythecoolone]

The only thing I think that matters is Hannah addressing her audience bc of Angelika's past comments. I personally feel like if anyone made this big, it's Angelika. Because she's the one who actually hurt people and then turned it into a shitty friend story. This would've been so much cleaner if Angelika just apologised to the BIPOC communities she's hurt.

[@kittykat5197]

OMG, this whole thing is soooo over the top. I’m a black woman and I’m NOT offended by what went down. As allies you both are going to make mistakes. You don’t have to make movies and write novels about the smallest things. Acknowledge, apologize, do better, and move on. The more both of you talk, ironically, the more it feels like it’s just about the two of you and THAT’S a microaggression!

[@Mikayla_5]

They're both acting on microaggression so idk why people are putting Smokey on a pedestal? Smokey isn't and clean/perfect little princess either. I just find it funny that people are only pointing fingers at Angelika when Smokey done very similar things and is doing it as we speak

[@cherri.likethefruit]

exactly, to me this was a minor instance. an apology to whoever is offended would suffice but going into all this petty back and forth about a bad friend and yaddayadda is sooo unnecessary. i like both their channels but angelika was dead wrong dragging hannah into her apology video. i don’t think hannah should’ve responded but i probably would’ve done the same tbh lol

[@naomida22]

@@Mikayla_5 idk much about smokey's micro aggressions but the thing is Hannah is showing growth and understanding while Angelika is downplaying the situation and her actions. People are allowed to grow and make mistakes but their actions after the fact should be what matters

[@nelle1899]

well said. the drama is overshadowing the real issue here

[@afifaashfaq2935]

@@cherri.likethefruit tbh people were asking Hannah to address this. And this whole "shes a bad friend" and "snake" was started by nick, dustin and rich.

[@molly9024]

Angelika’s explanation isn’t for me, I’m not part of the trans or BIPOC community. But her going into Hannah’s character about things totally unrelated to the situation at hand really left a bad taste in my mouth.

[@jennifersaunders3622]

Maybe a way to improve just in general in the future is talking w black women, trans people, or disabled people about issues concerning them, to be able to have their opinions in your videos? Kind of like including Manny in his evolution video.

[@d.o.m.i.]

i think inviting people per se might give them too much exposure, but definetely talking to them before making a statement is a great idea

[@alykatttt]

@@d.o.m.i. wouldn’t “giving them exposure” be a positive thing? giving them exposure would essentially be giving marginalized groups a platform to speak on issues that affect them

[@anyalaASMR]

@@alykatttt I think they meant more exposure to hate, but I also agree with you.

[@12emonie]

This really feels like it was a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. You were set up to lose.

[@candymiranda8249]

Agree

[@hollywood2499]

I agree!

[@J0IJ0IJ0I]

Agreed.

[@jeniferjoseph9200]

This

[@caitlinbishop6624]

Absolutely!

[@sheena4656]

Being a "bad friend" is, and never will be, as bad as racist behaviour.

[@leonardo.diCATio]

This deserves so much more attention, it's insane how many people thought that being a bad friend was the problem here.

[@missrelaxed3872]

Truth

[@andrearobyn3701]

It's also infuriating that these channels talking about it care more about friendship beef and drama over Angelika's racist micro-aggressions. One is clearly worse, and the narrative should stay focused on the actual issue here.

[@user-us7py1cy2k]

Exactly

[@anitrahooper5031]

Most people would rather change the discussion, deflect, protect, & otherwise avoided discussing racism or their role in perpetuating or upholding it.

[@elizabeths.g7785]

They really mad over her declining a party invite. LMAOOO I didn’t realize this was second grade

[@karpouzy89]

You screwed up, took responsibility, and apologized. What more did people want from you? People need to start giving grace to others the way they expect it given to them.

[@adventuresinquillville]

I agree. Did she give grace to others though?

[@julelune]

the fact that this drama broke out over a video ranking 2020 dramas... I had to laugh a lil

[@dianag0rdon]

lmaoo right

[@gurvirj479]

Samee, eventually if you talk about others mistakes/wrongdoings it comes back to you. It’s just negative energy 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@sophieladanyi568]

It is actually pretty hilarious

[@kelceyc1509]

Right 🙄 Some people have been locked in their homes too long. They should of never ever of brought this public. 🥱🥱🥱

[@Zarahsrealm]

@@gurvirj479 I agree

[@FirstFallSnow]

Maybe unpopular opinion; but I think SG had to address this publicly. The drama in August was public and all of the comments on on the video and the tweets were public. If she didn't address it or was vague it would look like she's ignoring the situation. Anyone, ANYONE, can be micro-aggresive to a group you're not in no matter how hard you try not to be. I've been in an interracial relationship for years and I'm know I've said things that weren't correct, and they have said things about my sexuality that wasn't correct. What happens then? We apologise and talk about it. Understand that no one is perfect, but getting defensive and deflecting is the worst possible way to react. Is Angelika a racist? I doubt it. Did she handle this situation in a way that makes her look that way, or at the very least like an immature brat? Yes. But she's 20, and I hope in a few years she'll look back on this and cringe.

[@spectre9340]

Do you mind explaining to me what the August thing was and what Angelika's role in it was? I'm really confused and I worry that I'll find the wrong information if I try to look it up myself

[@jaciebennett7496]

i think hannah should have waited until she spoke with angelika to post ANYTHING.

[@estlee1583]

Being 20 is no longer an acceptable excuse. She should have addressed this properly instead of taking all the wrong turns that she did. It takes effort to make the mistakes that she did. That being said, forgiveness is still on the table if she shows true growth. I believe she's too close to the situation right now to see how wrong she was. We'll see though, maybe 2021 will bring about positive change.

[@FirstFallSnow]

@@spectre9340 from what I understand, someone photoshopped a pic of Kylie Jenner to have the caption "dark skin girl". After being exposed as a fake, the discussion was that it was a good fake because of often the Kardashian/Jenner's exploit African American culture. AO covered the issue, but in a way that seemed to gloss over the bigger issue of exploitation/ grifting of AA culture in defense of Kylie. When later asked to clarify her statements on twitter and in a livestream, she blocked people instead of addressing it. I think she does eventually clarify as part of another video that all she meant was that Kylie being photoshopped isn't a big deal, not that black fishing and exploitation in general wasn't a big deal. But too little too late, many BiPOC had already unsubbed

[@spectre9340]

@@FirstFallSnow ooooh okay thank you

[@meh5872]

I got a bad feeling about Angelika once she quit university and started only doing drama videos in her time. Overtime her content got more and more lazy and she made wild assumptions without ever apologizing in her next videos or doing a retraction or responding to any comments. It's a classic case of you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. She's easy to criticize Gabby Hanna for not taking an accountability immediately after something happens but when the shoes on the other foot she backtracks. I hope she learns from this and actually finds something else to do rather than reporting on internet drama for a living. Only talking about the negatives in people slowly makes you become more cynical and this is seen with a lot of other channels that have come before her. I get that it earns her a massive amount of money but it's hardly something to be proud of.

[@alexis9403]

I also remember being really disappointed in how she talked about swoops video about glam&gore. I watched it and was under the impression it wasent that big a deal. Then i came here and watched smokey glow and was like "omg, its so important that I watch swoops video and learn from it as a white cis girl" and i would of never wached her video if it wasent for smokeys video. I cant stop thinking about that

[@Dee-zx9zm]

honestly i think there both on the same page, smokie glow just cut her ties w angelika to doge getting called out too. I cant sleep so im bored and binge watching all of this and im just know finding out about all of this and its so clear all of these people are selfish and do whatever they have to do to keep their fans pleased so they can keep making their dollar.

[@lolok6338]

Damnnnn she quit uni? I haven’t watched an angelika video in like 2 years, so I’m very lost with this situation 😂

[@mynameisuju]

@@Dee-zx9zm so racism is on the same page as cutting ties with someone for being racist? Lol

[@Dee-zx9zm]

@@mynameisuju No, my point was she doesn't care about racism, she cares about her image, that's why she cut the ties. I wasn't comparing tie cutting and racism. Sorry if my first comment wasn't worded well enough.

[@420blazechucky9]

Imo the micro aggressions by angelica overshadow smokey “being a bad friend” but whatevs

[@mayailianna]

exactly this whole thing she started is so pointless and derails from the actual issue at hand.

[@soralhaajaa1856]

No wonder other drama channels that are friends with racists came for Hannah. They don't care about BIPOC

[@cinnabonbon]

@@soralhaajaa1856 that is they dont care about them until they can get clout from them

[@TimiSterr]

I feel like you found yourself in the middle of a situation where no matter what you do - some people will be upset with you. And I just want to say that it's OK - this is life. And I truly feel no matter what you say, people will twist it however they want. And marginalized communities being used as "weapons" in this "she said-she said" situation is absolutely disgusting.

[@laurabuchanan2180]

Yes, (1) drama channels wanting petty revenge against (2) a non-conventional female creator (who holds herself the exceptionally high standards) find an opportunity when (3) a young female creator (aiming to hold herself to a similarly high standard) is caught "learning on the job." Marginalized people ((4)BIPOC and (5)trans communities) become the weapon of choice. We DON'T have a widely accepted procedure for dismantling white fragility YET, so of course it is a mess when it is attempted. The 2 women are hurt, the marginalized communities are hurt, and the drama channels get what they want, for now. As much as this was a sh*tshow, and Black women are commenting that this is all too much, when the BLM protests were happening this summer, a common refrain was "white people need to learn to talk to each other about race." Yes it is a mess because it hasn't been done in earnestly in large scale before, but I appreciate both women for speaking honestly and apparently listening to each other and learning. Don’t let the drama channels trick you into believing these women are as small as they are.

[@Melissaonline22]

I agree with this too, that sometimes, someone’s always going to be upset. I just appreciate that she was thorough in discussing her thought process in her actions and also to still be open to more growth and conversation. I hope that Hannah said her piece for herself, feels like she acknowledged what she needed to, and can put other people’s opinions in a box...that she did this for her own mental well-being and no one else, I guess?

[@jessicalugo2827]

I still don’t understand why they’re still angry at an invitation after a year. They should grow up.

[@02puwina]

right, like move the fuck on. i think they’re just using that as an excuse to be negative towards her

[@billyt8868]

they aren’t. they need drama and they are emotionally stunted. the biggest issue is their ability to trick viewers into buying into their nonsense

[@skyline_decay]

I think they're all extremely sensitive people, just with how they react when anyone gives them criticism. But that's their shit to work on, its not everyone else's responsibility to cater to their fragile egos

[@annme_87]

Right? It couldn't have been that fun to attend since here we are a year later only talking about the girl who didn't go...

[@MarlaSingersCancer]

@@skyline_decay It's not sensitivity. That's arrogance and being a bad person. They hate being questioned. They can't stand having to apologise or admit mistakes. If you're sensitive, you admit mistakes and care about them. You don't behave like these guys.

[@JazzyCheeks]

Nick IS absolutely a bully. He's often saying crap about people, planting false ideas about people and their motives, and it's usually Dustin that has to correct him or point things out that Nick just conveniently ignores. That's a pattern for them.

[@amaanhassanaziz4735]

Are you talking about Nick crowley?

[@jjj8940]

Notice how Hannah is taking accountability while Angelika was deflecting the whole time

[@izzybitsyspider03]

Yes it was so obvious to me! Her comment section makes Hannah seem evil but I'm like "bruh can't u see she doesn't want to just address things, apologize, and keep it moving?" That is what she should have done but she wanted to shift the blame.

[@helena.4210]

people respond differently when under pressure, doesn't make one person "better" than another

[@lolok6338]

@@helena.4210 ... but as an adult, you should be taking accountability when you clearly screwed up.

[@christamarie3512]

You’re probably better off not having gone to the party and keeping more to yourself. You see what happens when you make friends on KZbin.

[@brittanyk6651]

THIS

[@KN-hg2nv]

Ikr I would've straight up ghosted them tbh

[@christamarie3512]

Yeah I just got home from work now I’m going to unsubscribe to all their channels. I try to ignore the bs and just enjoy their silly drama or whatever but I can’t ignore them trying to destroy Hannah and her channel. She has more integrity in her big toe than any of them.

[@bayleesmith2803]

She shouldn’t have to feel like she can’t talk to other creators or be around other creators because of a bad experience.

[@christamarie3512]

@@bayleesmith2803 that’s not what I said at all

[@vanessarenee3959]

I think the actual problem in this situation was lost between the manipulation and the toxicity of drama channels and the false narratives they like to push. Sounds like they just needed a scapegoat to distract us from the fact that THEY are the bad people, not you.

[@hellomoto5870]

It definitely feels this way

[@shaleamontanez4591]

Ppl just wanna focus on these two white creators when it's not about them in all reality.

[@ericabassi7728]

I totally agree. And it makes me sad that Hanah feels the need to even address all this bs, when anyone who sincerely wants the truth can see whats been going on.

[@cavlizzy]

When there is no BIG drama going on.... these drama channels have to latch on to any "little" drama they can find to put up content. Disgusting!

[@littlelucyvert4814]

The fact that Angelika didn't want "receipts" to be leaked says everything imo...

[@tugger]

^^^^^^ thiiiiiiiiis

[@iko5164]

It’s Becuase it probably would’ve put both of them in a bad light.

[@cgl-osl_]

@@iko5164 Angelika didnt care about putting Hannah in a bad light, in her video or before the vid, so forgive me if I don't think she does this at all to protect Hannahs image,

[@iko5164]

@@cgl-osl_ do you really think that she’s that self centered? Even in the video Hannah said she was getting heated too.

[@JessyLovesYou]

"Why isn't the narrative being pushed, hey don't do shitty actions that require people to have to call you out? And if you do, own up to it so your friends don't have to call you out" This right here. Honestly, best thing to do is treat people here like work friends. At arms length.

[@Listening_Books12345]

Excellent point. These people are your coworkers, your competition, and some of them, SG included, make their money talking about other people on the internet and how they conduct their business. These creators need to keep that mind.

[@lizzynieboer4441]

Unpopulair opinion: everyone who starts a “drama” channel is bound to find themselves in drama.

[@stephanief9240]

ALWAYS!

[@CJAmara]

Yep. Drama attracts drama

[@cgl-osl_]

I guess this is true, talking about others and trying to set a standard/keeping eachother accountable does set a bar that you are then expect to never miss, even though we are all human, and sometimes fudge up

[@frankeewodziak6359]

It is always the drama channels

[@chelsealiddypivtorak9282]

Not an opinion, a FACT haha (unfortunately!)

[@MsKatRivera]

Rich Lux has some nerve talking about anyone’s makeup when his lashes are always flying off.

[@kimberlywelch4198]

It's a running joke, it's the wonky lash, he doesn't actually think he's wearing them correctly!

[@caseyw.6550]

He's so insecure. Sad.

[@Posh_and_Rooted]

Babyyy listen 😂😂😂 his lashes tear my nerves up 😂😂😂

[@gabrielaaaaa76]

lmaooooo truuuuu

[@Lacey0312]

This made me snort 😂😂

[@meghansullivan6812]

Hannah is so emotionally intelligent and its so fkn refreshing to see from a KZbinr

[@CK-mq1tb]

My therapist once told me to set a 24 hour rule to respond to people who were heckling me into responding to them, whether their urgency was related to logistics or accusatory or whatnot, that being provoked into a reaction isn't the best thing for me. I think a lot more people need practice taking the time to gather themselves so they can respond to difficult communications. Things would likely have gone differently between these two if they had taken more time to figure out what the hell is going on. In the end, I know some communities were demanding to know what the stance was, however, you can't do a proper investigation and communicate well in that little time. We need to stop knee-jerking everything. Yeah, don't take months, but you can wait 24 hours and figure your shit out privately before making videos for the world to consume as drama.

[@ajqueen31]

_and the candle of the day is_ ... oh wait, it's not that type of video.

[@smokey_glow]

This made me laugh 😂 I promise it’ll be back to Glowmas tomorrow

[@drawingwithizzy1956]

@@smokey_glow hi Hanna sorry this happening. Have a great day

[@jule8687]

hahhahahahahahahahahahahaahaha😂😂😂

[@maddiew1948]

I zoomed in and it looks like it’s Chocolate Grahams :)

[@ABCEggplant]

"it is okay to learn new information and change your opinion" is such a hard truth more people need to accept.

[@lailawebster5778]

Watched until the end and wow… time and time again you show that you are aware, compassionate and honest. Thank you for owning up to your mistakes and expressing that theres nothing wrong with learning new things that shift your opinion. People learn and change over time and thats okay. I also have so much support your values and the way you respect others. I’ve been watching your channel for a long time and I hope to keep watching for even longer!

[@janmarchand7294]

Good Lord! This is so high school.

[@shoogur3920]

1 hour and 3 minutes in, I don’t think Hannah tells us what the candle of the day is.

[@stellabella3337]

STOPPPPPPPPP OMG 😂😂 And I tried so hard to read the label too

[@MS-hx3ye]

If it helps, it's chocolate grahams from bath and body works.

[@roflbaha]

@@MS-hx3ye thank you this truly does help

[@hereforthebuffoonery]

straight to da business

[@ellesmelly]

@@MS-hx3ye you're a treasure thank u for your service

[@cheeseheadbrownpants2819]

This would not have gotten this big if Nick and Dustin didn’t stir the pot and try to create a bigger drama.

[@kenyadavenport5822]

Yes!

[@kiaraeshi]

they can’t imagine putting marginalized communities before their peers

[@viconyoutube]

Literally that was the weirdest part of all of this

[@cearamaire]

Exactly!! Idk why I used to like them

[@BeautyBeatdown]

Oh my god right? And they've made many multiple videos now about it, it seems!

[@RAHHicecream]

Nick is definitely a bully he bullied the mess out of James in 2019

[@GabriellaLascano]

People talk about drama, and then get shocked when they get involved in drama.

[@roxannerodriguez4100]

So true.

[@Ameliamaemay1990]

Racism isn't drama tho

[@patr70]

@@Ameliamaemay1990 Tell that to all of your Aunts and Uncles..

[@patr70]

@@Ameliamaemay1990 Really? More Anti-Racist more then most white people?

[@Ameliamaemay1990]

@@patr70 How I reply to this definitely depends if you are BIPOC or not. If you are a fellow white person, I have a lot to say, and if you are BIPOC, I will say we do our absolute best all the time to be better people, to unlearn and to uplift voices. We are aware that Canada is currently a very unsafe place for anyone who isn't White. If you White or not aware the Indigenous people are being treated like shit by our government as per usual while Indigenous communities try to grieve their loved ones, and we want to hold space for them in this time and uplift their voices. So we're no “white knights” we just try to be anti-racist and not be shitty.

[@Damieva]

this is a totally unrelated comment but maaaannn hearing the name John kuckian after all these years still activates my fight or flight response,,, trully dark times

[@saar3312]

I literally got war flashbacks. Those were horrible times kdbsk 😭😭

[@virginiafernandes336]

Lol so true

[@hubbardlaluce3932]

Why like you people be really be out here acting as if your some kind acquaintance to these people like wtf did any of these people do to or for you but sway your already fake ass opinion and offer you Merch & Makeup

[@tiffane973]

Pin this one. 🤣 I just got chills

[@viana6240]

I hate that this whole ordeal became “hannah vs angelika” and the micro aggressions were forgotten! The real issue is still there and it’s getting lost between this “drama”

[@Shudderetal]

The fact that something this completely mundane grew this large just validates my life path as a hermit who keeps everyone at an arm's length.

[@Megadoodle]

I do appreciate that you made an apology and addressed things. However, when your brand is about calling others out and taking responsibility, you need to be very mindful about who you choose to collaborate with.

[@smokey_glow]

Completely agree.

[@r3allyr3agan]

@@smokey_glow I still don't see what the issue with Angelika is though.

[@finallyforfeited]

@@r3allyr3agan she has been criticized for microaggressions against BIPOC and refused to take any accountability

[@amandabasinger7978]

Racism is worse than being a bad friend. Yet Dustin, Rich and Nick refuse to address their own racism but have made multiple videos on people being bad friends. Make it make sense

[@idahiberg4374]

Besides, good friends are those who want to educate you and believe in you becoming a better person

[@estheticianhere2875]

Rich addressed his faults many times maybe do reach before saying stupid stuff you obviously know nothing about.

[@sarab3417]

@@estheticianhere2875 but he doesn’t change, so...?? 🙄😑

[@snail353]

right! that group are literally the most toxic people on this site and as a BIPOC myself, it literally annoys me how they get away with things without any repercussions... like what??

[@snail353]

@@estheticianhere2875 he didn’t change lmfao

[@Shutupdede]

i hate that this situation turned into “smokey glow vs angelika.” because the real focus here should be the insensitive comments that actually hurt BIPOC. I really appreciate this response, Hannah.

[@cxshtana]

So true!

[@erikapogorzelska9065]

THIS!!! T H I S

[@jacobbaker4545]

I get your point however ppl should be able to defend their character because the trashy Yt drama channels turned this into silly drama. Smokey has always spoken about Bipoc...ppl who dont watch her content dont know that so she comes off as performative, when that is further from the truth.

[@salad1224]

And Hannah mentioning party drama and being the victim in regards to drama channels is keeping the real focus on comments that hurt BIPOC. How about we demand accountability from SG for spreading lies that Angelika has said transphobic things when she found no proof, just to take the heat off of herself and put it into her "friend". How about Hannah receive accountability for the hurtful homophobic things she's said in the past? Or the homophobic comments she liked when the whole James Charles thing went down. Or how about Hannah receive as much backlash as Angelika has (for an off handed comment she made about the kardashians) for the misinformation Hannah included in a video about trans people.

[@angelina.st.]

@@salad1224 you didn't even watch this video, she literally adressed it all🤦‍♀️

[@gabimaza780]

Yo this has gotten out of hand. People on the internet need to freaking chill.

[@baby-pj5xo]

Smokey Glow getting into "drama" 2020 just gets weirder

[@melanie_margaret]

i’m not liking that this entire situation has become “hannah vs angelika” instead of the actual microaggressive comments angelika has made. the drama channel people who are currently siding with angelika have also done some shady bullshit & i wish they would shut their asses up. i also just wish that people would stop speaking over BIPOC & anyone that’s been affected by angelika’s behavior. really wish y’all would just. stop. (this is not for the BIPOC who either don’t care or disagree with myself/hannah/other BIPOC who feel similarly. you can feel how you feel, & i’m not going to disparage you from feeling how you feel.) love you, hannah. i can tell this is really hurting you. i’ve been there. 🤍

[@sleepysquidasmr2705]

Also I feel like the best case scenario for this situation would have been in private,,,just between Hannah and Angelika...

[@melanie_margaret]

@@sleepysquidasmr2705 did you watch the video? they tried that. also with something as serious as racist microaggressions, no i don’t think that should be handled privately.

[@melaniedarmawan9922]

@@sleepysquidasmr2705 Hannah was the first person to brought it up to the public eye lol

[@sadcap]

If your friends don't tell you when you're acting poorly, they're not your friends.

[@reyeshdez4270]

rumors about Angelika were not true so she just went with the hate band wagon so I got respect that at all🤥🤥🤥

[@maddiegrayce288]

I agree, but there was no proof of the allegations against Angelika

[@elainevm]

@@reyeshdez4270 uhh I don’t know if y’all saw what angelika said not only about the kardashians, but also about people with conditions (seizures specifically). I don’t get why y’all are still painting this narrative “angelika did nothing wrong cause there’s no proof” when angelika herself admitted the things she said were messed up. Also, if y’all have been following angelika on Twitter, she’s been liking tweets/comments absolving/defending her since august, which was what made things even bigger cause she didn’t come off as genuine.

[@tankell32]

I guess we’re both flip floppers because I have dragged MannyMuA in the past. And I sure did buy his Eternal Eclipse palette and I’m gonna buy his blush palette when he re-releases it. And if he messes up again, I’m dragging his ass again!! 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@dessenlover]

You know I feel like Angelika didn’t wanna address it at all first because everyone knows if people don’t address drama it just goes away

[@LennyPepper]

I definitely agree. That was my first thought when SG said Angelika was talking to bigger creators and they told her to ignore it.

[@laceospades]

"why don't we just encourage people who have a public platform to be better" This.

[@thehornoftheunicorn]

I think it’s all getting blown out of proportion. You spoke your truth and held yourself accountable. That’s all you can do. Thank you for this!

[@FeoshiaHDavis]

Agree

[@sayoalawode55443]

Getting blown way out of proportion... like why did drama channels make videos?? Why was it so weird that she didn’t support a racist?? Like wtf.

[@thehornoftheunicorn]

@@sayoalawode55443 exactly. I feel like people just want to jump on anything to make content or have something to talk about. Also, being quarantined during a pandemic isn’t helping the situation either. This is ridiculous

[@nanamiharuka3269]

I agree, I thought the community tab post was a sufficient apology and explanation, because so far we’ve seen Smoky be nothing but honest and accountable. I feel so bad that Angelika and others blew this up

[@theo278]

@@nanamiharuka3269 Angelika's also turned this from her own mistake onto SG for being a bad friend which isn't the problem. SG community tab post was fine it didn't say anything offensive. She dropper her explanation and that should've been the end of it.

[@YoungFraggle]

She’d rather stop doing collabs entirely instead of just owning her shit lmao. We’re people we’re allowed to make mistakes, but you have to be willing to admit when you’re wrong and apologize to the people you hurt. Make the necessary adjustments in yourself and move on and be better for it. She doesn’t need to be “cancelled” she just needs to do better. And her avoidance of the issue is pretty gross and telling that she is not willing to listen to POC who just wanted her to make a minor course adjustment

[@rantsofafangirl7000]

In a general sense, I still think people should try to fix the issue privately before shaming someone publicly. It's not only an empathy thing but you're more likely to get your message across without then being defensive because they are humiliated.

[@jennifermarbley1488]

This whole situation is a little too high school for me and seems like it has very little to do with allyship or protecting marginalized groups 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@choctawbae2847]

Yeah that’s because it has nothing to do with it lol. They don’t care about us, they’re both protecting their bags and using us as the excuse. 🙃

[@ShinyPrimarina]

Angelika trying to paint hannah as a bad friend and making the drama about her being a snake and ignoring Hannah trying to get her to focus on the original situation (i.e. the way Angelika was ignoring bipoc and the criticisms from them) is probably worse than idk. Hannah explaining herself? But yeah they're totally exactly the same

[@shenae9080]

I agree. It is all very stupid. I also love how Angelika donated to NAACP so here is Hannah doing the same thing and she made sure to put in her description BLACK! like wtf rofl

[@clarem6971]

At the end of the day they care more about protecting their image, anything else is just an embellishment. SG may be a “better ally” than AO at this point in time but it doesn’t mean she is a sincere one.

[@lunatears1]

honestly yea seems like performative activism

[@Monica-fs2mr]

Rich Dustin and Nick.. ooof they’re so biased and mean / immature

[@tanesharichelle]

Exactly everything they say is invalidated by their bias and immaturity. They never see the wrong in their friends

[@lobstermacncheesefarts3989]

Seriously they are the mean girls. I have just recently been watching them more regularly and am already over it. Their snake comments and videos and mostly being upset about a Christmas party above all else really sent me off. 😔

[@pianoluver1222]

I barely know these dudes, but I’ve watched only a couple of their videos and didn’t like them. Mean girls definitely suits them.

[@kiaraeshi]

@@lobstermacncheesefarts3989 literally!! I was actually watching them recently for entertainment but the more I watched the more I felt like they don't rly have anything concrete to bring to the table

[@kyzerbobyzer7053]

I lost all respect for them after this video I’m unsubscribing from those 3 🤮🤮

[@playsintraffic2]

I have never understand the "love" for Rich Luxe. Really.

[@sailormf]

All I can think of is misery loves company because I don’t understand it at all either.

[@Lalop0p]

This is immediately the gold standard for addressing controversies or drama in any online community. 11/10 rating fo sho.

[@smartlikewoah]

Wasn't this supposed to be about the microagressions that took place? Idk why so many people made this more about who's a bad friend and less about the actual problem at hand. I don't know if I agree 100% with the way Hannah handled things, however it's important to hold your friends accountable. But despite that, the situation between these 2 women has been blown way out of proportion. People are taking this into a direction it doesn't need to go in.

[@craziestcat5767]

Angelika already addressed the accusations about her. Its just how Hannah handled it that many people misunderstood I guess?

[@carolynwisser3322]

I think people would rather talk about who’s a bad friend than their fave who has done micro aggressions and holding them accountable.

[@crownofeunoia1907]

@@craziestcat5767 Angelika didn’t, which is the point. Watch the video on Angelika and you will exactly know what she did and why all of her apologies were inadequate.

[@itbelikethat5480]

Ok, but in this video, the amount of time she spent on discussing issues about BIPOC is disappointing. Hannah was like "the important thing is the marginalized groups getting hurt", meanwhile proceed to spend the majority of her video talking about other things.......

[@ChiaRiaRei]

this has nothing to do with your comment, but your name and pic gives me life

[@kelsey2333]

Dustin attacks anyone who gives him constructive criticism on his videos. Tacky and immature

[@billyt8868]

dustin is disgustingly insecure. it’s pathetic.

[@AmberLecuyer]

He is vile.

[@anoniemmoet8984]

@@billyt8868 and dustin is bottom started relationship with Nick who is bottom too 😂😂😂😂 karma already hit them bad

[@Princessbubblegum567]

He’s so mean and is such a bully.

[@BeybladeFables]

He’s on the level of onision

[@steffie__]

Angelika is acting like her fave KZbinr miss gabbie Hanna when it comes to owning up / addressing things

[@bbtdgfan890]

I sure hope angelika didn't have the audacity to use the tagging system

[@sofiavazquez9714]

Watch Angelika’s video to see the other side of this story. 😊

[@sidneyirl]

The 11 minute video with 6 ads bit really spoke to me 👌😶

[@autumnroy]

Dustin, Rich Lux, and Nick Snider are being awful about this. It’s very obvious that they haven’t liked you from the beginning and they were just WAITING for this. They don’t even care who is “right” or “wrong”, they just want an excuse to “cancel” you.

[@Scar-jq2co]

True. There are just people who hate on you no matter what you do. So who cares about them.

[@makenna5883]

They are all fake and toxic so whatever.

[@drewberriesandcream]

dustin is literally acting like a high schooler it’s making me sick

[@makenna5883]

@@drewberriesandcream for real it’s all so immature and ridiculous smh

[@graceglo6638]

I watched Dustin's video and felt like it was so clearly biased and just was him and Nick shit-talking Hannah in a way that they were obviously doing behind the scenes, and were just so smug being able to do it online for once without getting shit for doing so.

[@jenniferr5925]

Tbh I don't see how pinning the comment about looking into the situation was you being shady towards Angelika

[@stellabella3337]

I just think that if they were friends she could have assisted Angelika in righting her wrongs without immediately putting her on blast. Just imo tho

[@katekursive1370]

Same. A very absurd, insecure statement.

[@nehajoshi4089]

@@stellabella3337 i mean from what i got from the video, it was after 2 WHOLE days that she took the video down. and from what it seems like - SG’s convos with AO in private were very defensive on AO’s side and led to nowhere. so ukw i dont really blame hannah

[@leahmarie112]

I think the shade was in the community post tbh. It was a lot of “I’ve heard” and “people are telling me” and “rumors” and apologizing to viewers while also saying “I don’t have any proof”. It was weird.

[@musesx9]

I felt the same way.

[@emmalouisejay387]

I don't know the ins and outs of this issue, but what I will say is there seems to be too much pressure for KZbinrs to be perfect, never make mistakes, and know everything. I really value your channel and thank you for your Glowmas series.

[@EmmmmmB]

I used to love Dustin and Nick until I realized how hypocritical they are, I’m happy someone’s finally calling them out.

[@LennyPepper]

Me too. I unfollowed and unsubbed from Dustin after this.

[@cxshtana]

All Hannah did was hold herself accountable. That’s it. She didn’t drag the girl. She didn’t grab a torch and pitchfork.... she held herself accountable for how her actions made her audience feel based on actual feedback she was receiving. Isnt that what we always want from creators? Accountability? I think this whole thing is kind of dumb. Hannah doesn’t deserve to be getting hate for anything that happened. If you see this Hannah, I hope you’re okay. Protect your peace and mental health❤️

[@saskiaosbourne3095]

exactly!!

[@mackenziezeckowski5663]

Yes! You are just laying out the truth for everyone to see!

[@purplefrog0135]

yes! ❤️

[@makenna5883]

Because she’s mature, smart and understands that knowledge can change your opinion ♥️ love her

[@laue1221]

Exactly!!!! And then people call her a people pleaser... shes just a good human being

[@MsKatRivera]

The whole party thing is so weird. I don’t understand why they were so offended by that.

[@cearamaire]

They acted like she kicked their dog 😭 so dramatic

[@lobstermacncheesefarts3989]

@@cearamaire yessss exactly.

[@Simone-nu1zd]

A stupid party....behaving like petty little children.

[@mnemeikyu9299]

Ego is a hell of a drug.

[@PeachReverie]

Right! A whole year later and they haven't dropped it,

[@biggerteeth]

Rich Lux is the most exhausting person to listen to.. i think ever. The three of them are mean girls and Nick is Regina George. Can’t stand it. It’s unfortunate to hear about Angelika. She should stop listening to Gabbie Hannah’s advice (back when she was saying she would talk to her before all the billshit that just happened.) Angelika do better. I’d tell the three princes of hell to do better but everyone should stop listening to that hot mess express anyways.

[@2edge2fury99]

I’ll be honest, I wasn’t expecting a John Kuckian mention

[@caseycalloway7956]

I would rather have a friend that held me accountable so I can be the best version of myself than to be surrounded by enablers of bad behavior.

[@MaryElizabeth611]

Exactly! I despise the rhetoric that being a good friend means supporting a person no matter what they do.

[@oliviaharper4548]

this whole situation was just super messy and overall super unhelpful for BIPOC imo

[@smokey_glow]

I completely agree with you.

[@greyLeicester]

Wtf is even a bipoc?

[@jalysam813]

@@greyLeicester Black/indigenous people of color

[@ezmeraldamedrano]

@@jalysam813 ooohhhh!!!!! Oh boy I've been reading it wrong

[@jalysam813]

@@ezmeraldamedrano I kept reading it as bisexual poc lmao

[@rebekahf7721]

Coming back a year later so you know you got me in the divorce.

[@johannayrjonsdottir9241]

Haha love that comment! So wholesome and sarcastic at the same time 😂

[@radicalopulence]

Why is it a bad thing to be cautious about being associated with people how are deem problematic? ESPECIALLY if your a public figure who doesn’t want to tarnish your reputation. You don’t owe those people anything Hannah ❤️.

[@fangfetti]

I can’t believe that there’s “drama” over the fact that you’re trying to hold your friend accountable? Of course you’re not perfect and neither is Angelika but this is so overly blown out of proportion. Also the other thing that’s really upsetting as a POC observing this is that this was meant to be about calling out behaviour that ignores/speaks over BIPOC perspectives but now it’s turned into petty “drama” over two white women bc of the whole drama community culture…

[@346ego]

Exactly...

[@Braindead_intellect]

SAY IT LOUDER

[@martinameh]

Not true. She has her one and only thought to “How will this look to people online??” That’s cool to us but imagine if you were her friend.

[@sophiaayers7995]

She didn’t do it to stand up for BIPOC. If she cared she would have looked into it when it was a controversy. She cared because of how it made her look and that’s disgusting

[@Sockly]

This

[@katie-yk1es]

This is not petty drama. And micro aggressions against Black people, that’s not drama. I feel like that needs to be said.

[@marinahparkinson1802]

Agreed. 💙

[@genoswest7253]

THANK YOU. People are seriously not getting that...

[@e-linamarie]

the focus got pulled from the seriousness of racial microaggressions, and that’s the real problem here. it’s being turned into drama now, when the real conversation should be about how to be aware of and avoid microaggressions

[@kaytee789]

its sad but her followers think this is petty. I dont think Angelika is aware of her microagressions, shes been pulling the you said the * word revenge on other creator.

[@honeysana672]

the issue is twitter turned it into drama when it shouldn’t be labelled as such because your completely right.

[@Shelby_Erilyn]

I respect that you didn’t monetize this. A lot of creators don’t think twice about this possibly being an issue. Thank you for being accountable for your mistakes. 💜

[@lydialoooks]

I saw an ad on this video ♥

[@sofiavazquez9714]

Watch Angelika’s video to see the other side of this story. 😊

[@Shelby_Erilyn]

Sofia Vázquez i haven’t yet but i will

[@d.o.m.i.]

@@lydialoooks sometimes videos that are not monetised still have ads... the money will probably go all to youtube

[@lydialoooks]

@@d.o.m.i. Thank you for informing me.

[@purplekimby]

I watched this whole video and had no clue what was going on... That's devotion 🤣

[@araceligonzalez3632]

Hannah It would be nice if you collaborated with more BIPOC commentators or influencers in general. That way you can actually promote what you stand for.

[@eggchan]

^^ more nisipisa plssss

[@KM-rt5jj]

Yesss

[@shinstantramen5169]

I vote Nisipisa!!!

[@justjoannak]

I 100% agree with this

[@marianasantos3707]

nisipisa and amandabb 😳😳😳

[@sabrinalee909]

Anyone who thinks listening to POC is just being "fake woke" is really admitting the kind of person they are in my opinion.

[@sarab3417]

💯

[@noa4644]

This comment section is a bunch of white people deciding what’s racist or what’s not and SG liking negative comment about angelika. I am sick of white people using racism for their petty fights.

[@pollyyang7267]

@@noa4644 THIS!

[@britt4130]

@@noa4644 most of the comments I’m seeing Hannah like are ones that are critical of her or critical of the fact that this has turned into the battle of the white girls instead of a serious conversation about microaggressions. The latter are pretty much the vast majority actually

[@saipandevo]

@@britt4130 Really? Because I'm seeing the opposite. It's not just their video that matters but also how they behave in the comment section, and from what I'm seeing, neither of them have really learned anything. I've seen far too many videos addressing a situation but choose the comments they heart... poorly to say the least.

[@sapphirek5244]

It’s wild to me to think you could be considered “in the wrong” for not going to a party 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@TheAlxXxandRuh]

Oof.. this video is not great for Angelika. This is an eye-opener.