The Downfall of James Charles *a rant*

[@fridapatriciaguerrerovarga9816]

Him going "I'm desperate" was sickening to me. Because that said to me "I recognized people my age would not date me and decided that it would be easier to groom someone into dating me than actually becoming a decent person that people want to date" This is a crime. How can he admit to it on camera and call it "holding myself accountable" and decide that the solution will be taking a break from social media

[@TousledRedTresses]

Absolutely so well said! That's EXACTLY what that said to me too, disgusting and despicable

[@haileybuth9223]

This!!!!!!!!! This over and over and over!!!!!

[@ohhmangos]

holding himself accountable would be turning himself in to the authorities and taking a plea deal in jail.

[@mi-land854]

I genuinely believe him when he says that he did it because he's so desperate for a relationship. And that's even worse. He doesn't fully understand the situation. Why exactly what he has done is so bad. Otherwise he wouldn't have made a video in which he so blatantly incriminates himself, he really thinks this is a thing he can apologize for and then just move on (and I think his fans will let him do it, but that's a different conversation, in an ideal world this wouldn't fly).

[@fawn2911]

@@mi-land854 Please stop babying adults he's fully aware that what he did was wrong

[@olgamelissourgos735]

In my opinion, if you got “tricked” once, where u fell for a person lying about their age I would be EXTRA precautious and it would NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN

[@nemi8854]

Exactly!!!

[@amirashaweshify]

RIGHTTTTTT after the 3rd time i was...how tf does he not learn!?!?!? I guess we know now

[@holigatis7588]

He thinks he has nothing to lose. Typical narcissistic behavior.

[@ac2060]

Right?? One time would be more than enough to scare the life out of me and make me feel insanely guilty. Any rational person would go the extra mile to ensure that never ever happened again.

[@baylietrout7888]

He knows all his fans are around that age too so idk why he talks to his fans. Truly no mater the age of the fans you should not be wielding your power like that.

[@rochelle1199]

If you are so desperate for a relationship that you commit a crime to get it, a relationship is the LAST thing you need

[@dayoolorunnisola162]

THIS!!

[@edennn18]

YUP YUP

[@blablabladuda]

PURRRRR

[@josemartins504]

Ikr

[@Indijana]

That's probably also the reason why it's not happening for him. People noticed the energy and nobody who actually wants a serious relationship would go for someone who is in such a mindspace. But that's just my opinion. 🤷‍♀️

[@quagsire7068]

THE FACT THAT HE JUST SAID “sorry for being a groomer i was just thirsty” AND IS GETTING AWAY WITH IT

[@Psalm2Charity]

girl the citizens of the patriarchy are gullible asf

[@quagsire7068]

@@Psalm2Charity i know it’s just aggravating

[@NathanDuabanTheSonicEnthusiast]

As a guy, those kinds of people are such a disgrace 😑

[@dontclickonmyprofilepictur5059]

The first few times i supported james but this is now becoming a pattern

[@booboothefool0]

Right, there is no excuses for his DISGUSTING behavior, it's truly sick

[@sapphic.flower]

The “desperate” thing sounds like when teachers form relationships with their students because “they’re going through a hard time”

[@avalonangel334]

It sounded like that to me also.

[@bellissima78]

Yes! Good point.

[@ieatbl00d]

I've seen ur pfp somewhere 🤔

[@sapphic.flower]

@@ieatbl00d Picrew lol. The artist is Kiwi on twitter

[@yaso4936]

YES

[@xorayne_]

Oh get his ass Hannah. I’m so sick of James not being held accountable

[@lunamoon5972]

100% agree! James needs to be held accountable for his actions.

[@starr2870]

no fr people just eating up his apology videos I'm so tired of him fr

[@Kim-gb5vk]

Same

[@poorlildarkbxy]

PERIODT

[@hanglam]

yessss!!!

[@missthiing]

I do not think James truly understands what he’s done, and that TERRIFIES me.

[@137-trimethylxanthin7]

he did not learn a thing, this has been happening for 3 years now. Like howw

[@beachbaby-qu1cr]

His video made it seem like he is just going to keep on doing this he is just going to start checking IDs 🤢

[@cocteautwin]

he’s a manipulator, he doesn’t care

[@meh5872]

its a trend of him being called out for things addressing it and making an "apology" and then doing whatever he wants. We've seen it with him sending younger boys n*des and we've seen it with him partying during covid. Just like david he only cares when sponsors pull out. I imagine him getting pulled from his youtube show pulled a sister nerve 🙄

[@the_petty_crocker]

He knows. It's willful ignorance.

[@Johnsmith47890]

Imagine standing in court being accused of sending/receiving pics from minors and your only defence is, “I was desperate” like that judge is going to send you straight to jail henny

[@eveleene3613]

He literally went "uwu, Im sowwy I fucked up, I was lonely :(("

[@MsAntigonaki]

One can only hope

[@wwozanewmusical]

there is no defence for being stupid and thining you deserve the world and eveyone should do what ever you command. I'm sorry but he's not even a real star, creating make up, and modeling it, is not up there with mvoe or broadway royalty sorry but he's not that big a star. I have family who are producers for movies, and work in both film and musical theatre and I have never heard of this guy before at all until th make up challenge thing where him and jojo were on it. And thats the first i ever saw of this supposed celebrity.

[@MademoiselleCl3]

No they will not send you to jail.. Just look at trail of rape or even sexual assault, a lot get away with the worst defense.

[@barbaraschmitt85]

@Annalisa Zucchi doesn't matter legally. It was on him to verify their age. He literally admitted to using Instagram/ Snapchat as a dating app. And asking/ sending nudes to people without consent is illegal, no matter their age. As Hannah said, there is a power imbalance since he is a "star" and the victims are people who admire / look up to him. Stop victim blaming and instead watch the video from Emily D Baker on the topic, she was a district attorney so has some knowledge of law

[@SamanthaKaye]

As a mother of a young boy, people like James Charles scare me. Predators aren’t just creepy old men... YT needs to demonetize him.

[@therealloubird]

Same as a Mother. This scares me as well.

[@SleepinBee]

They need to remove him from the platform, they’ve removed others for much less. I don’t care how much revenue he pulls in. I’m sure the authorities will now be interested as he has public ally acknowledged he knows these were children and alluded to some serious wrongdoings but he didn’t actually say what he did, and I’m sure that was purposeful, as advised from his legal people

[@ohhmangos]

exactly. if james was a straight man and did this to women he would be in prison, especially sicne he admitted to the crime.

[@debopriya14]

Truly, we don't protect young boys as much as we need to because we've been conditioned to think 'boys will be boys'. Believe victims irrespective of their gender, especially kids.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

@@ohhmangos right that’s the craziest part he has fully admitted to a crime on their platform they need to kick him off

[@leylapats]

He's 21, how desperate can he be? He acts like he's been alone for 100 years

[@oliebolie5064]

Not only this but he’s literally famous. He could have whoever he wants, why prey on children? I honestly don’t even know if I believe that excuse.

[@messywalk]

He’s only 21?!? 😧 How did I not know that? You’re completely right! A 21 year old shouldn’t be desperate and what was he gonna do... present his 16 year old boyfriend to his friends and family...?! Introduce him to his fans on his channel?! Where was that gonna go? 🤨

[@MostlyMom]

I think, maybe from context of other videos I’ve watched over the years, that he probably goes for people he can’t get. I.e, very “straight” or leaning towards presenting as “straight,” so I’m sure attempting to court people who will not date you, or who might hook up but not want to date you, might make you feel desperate and alone. Not that it’s an excuse at all. Maybe just an explanation.

[@percyperanamus7432]

ppl who know him in person probably couldnt stand him or weren't star struck so he wanted to sexually exploit his fan base who would amp him up regardless

[@billyt8868]

tbh he has been famous since he was a teenager. so i can imagine he’s been very much cut off from reality and any normal dating life. a lot of this seems like he’s trying to relive his late teens tbh it’s interesting and weird.

[@jacq_sparrow]

Between James Charles, Shane Dawson, and David Dobrick, it seems like KZbin is fine propping up predators and their enablers so long as they make them money.

[@andiman44]

Yeah but unfortunately we already kinda knew this. It just wasn’t as obvious

[@thxwanderer]

Adding Destery to the list as well for those who know those allegations toooo

[@blablabladuda]

☕️

[@purplebutterfly314]

Also Onision is still posting

[@thxwanderer]

Adding Lionmaker and Kiwiz. Both predators in a gaming community dominated by literal children.

[@strawbunnie5505]

Finally someone who accurately represents the anger people should feel when seeing a child being taken advantage of

[@thatonepairofuglysocks1342]

1000000000% this!!!!!

[@sandras2624]

👏

[@detectiverose]

The whole "desperate to date" thing really left a bad taste in my mouth. It reminded me of the argument that men "can't stop themselves" from doing certain things, and therefore they can't be blamed for them.

[@bbkey3021]

Reminds me of a “bad day”.

[@chiefpurrfect8389]

He's using the same logic and arguments I've heard countless men use to blame sexual violence on women, except he's using it on underage boys.

[@justatinyhalfling]

Exactly!

[@grism13]

It's just the normal argument of a predator

[@JadeLeahPilling01]

Him saying that feels like how men blame doing stuff without their partner's consent on 'blue balls'

[@archaicadventurevintage7895]

I think the issue is also that people don’t realize James is 21. He’s kinda like a child actor that you’re surprised when they’re your age. A 21 year old has no reason to talk to a 15 year old. That’s like someone graduating college talking to a high school freshman.

[@Diligent.Nucleus]

I agree, I think this is why David has gotten away with his horrible “pranks” and manipulation for so long as well.

[@jess.r.15]

Good analogy!!

[@amirashaweshify]

Alot of ppl are like "its a 4/5 year difference, its not a big deal" well a 21 and 16 are in totally different paths in life and this is predatory asf dont compare this to a 21 and 25 year old relationship.

[@cassandranolan432]

@@amirashaweshify totally agree. And a 21yo who is a millionaire, living the high life in LA, is on a totally different path than a regular 16yo in high school.

[@amirashaweshify]

@@cassandranolan432 for real, at 21 wouldn't talking to a kid in high-school kinda lame and weird AND he is a millionaire as well so he can go anywhere do anything and meet anyone but goes for a high-schooler..... thats what makes it really sus.

[@randomvacancy]

"Not everyone needs a redemption arc" "WHO GIVES A SHIT" Thank you.

[@annikajohnson2100]

YES YESS YES YES YES!!!!

[@teachingwithholls6443]

YES!!!!!

[@palladium607]

Yes!!!!!!!

[@andrear2184]

YES!!

[@maxinezanfardino7620]

YES YES YES! SAY IT AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THE BACK! 👏

[@fayemaka3037]

I feel like due to the quick projection of his career and his young audience and circle, James hasn't mentally aged passed highschool. He still see's himself as a teenager because he's "technically" gen z and failed to realize that outside of internet memes and fashion trends, 22 year olds and 16 year olds have NOTHING in common irl. Those lines are blurring especially on tiktok and it's putting children in danger.

[@aje-olokunsChile]

I have had these same thoughts about him as well

[@jotakyininoo2758]

I was thinking the same thing! That’s the vibe I was getting. His target dating age never changed and he doesn’t seem to realize he’s an adult now and can’t keep doing the same thing as when he was still underage.

[@vivienkoles1880]

Yeah, he said, he is mentally 40, but I always thought, he said the wrong number and it's actually 14.

[@Love-yp2fj]

@@vivienkoles1880 well he’s still developing mentally

[@Kittykat81572]

I don’t think anyone has told him no and that’s why he reacts as extreme as he does. It’s truly scary

[@virahpayam]

"Why does everyone need a redemption arc?" "Being a KZbinr isn't a right, it's a privilege." Miss Glow went off today! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@iheartfannypak]

Yeah I love that! She is right. Finally someone speak truth!!

[@lindsey5659]

We don't need this person to be a role model to children

[@AIDAGDA]

Finally someone said it

[@as19J01]

She explained it way better than I ever could. I hate how easily and quickly fans accept these people's apology. This allows people like Gabi Demartino to still have access to these minors. If they changed good, but showing it on the internet contradicts that. If you've truly changed, why try to capture it as proof? This is why I admire Jenna Marbles. I didn't know of her beforehand but when she exposed herself, apologised and personally took responsibility by deplatforming herself I really admired her for it. And the sad thing is that not one influencer/KZbinr/tiktoker followed her approach because they're that materialistic and fame-hungry

[@jaclynrawlins2796]

My mom’s generation had unhealthy ideas related to Prince Charming. Millennials/ Gen Z seem to have unhealthy ideas about redemption arcs. Let’s leave redemption arcs in our fictional literature. That’s frequently as close as it belongs to most people.

[@ThePenguinosity]

James Charles openly ADMITTED to a crime. He said his first instinct was to show "receipts" but he couldn't do that because that would further incriminate him. This isn't "internet tea", these are actual crimes being committed and I'm afraid youtube is going to do nothing to their golden child...

[@dannyt7269]

I’m genuinely curious if Smokey is supposed to report his video admitting to a crime against children since she’s a mandated reporter as a social worker.

[@juliannameconnahey3402]

Receipts?? More live EVIDENCE!

[@ThePenguinosity]

@@dannyt7269 from what one of the boys had said, he had to take his tiktok down because the police got in contact with his parents. And I had seen on social media another boy had taken his phone in to the police. (But both claims have not been verified)

[@ThePenguinosity]

@@juliannameconnahey3402 yeah thats why I put receipts in " ", because in my opinion that's all hard evidence further proving he had inappropriate conversations with the minors.

[@hep8008]

He didn't say because it would incriminate him lol. He said because it doesn't matter, they're not adults lol

[@elainevm]

I’m TIRED of seeing people saying “but they lied”, “but maybe James didn’t check their social media?”, “but he’s naive...” when James himself said he used his explore page to find these boys, or that these boys dm’d him through social media; These boys’ ages were all over their profiles, (not just the bio) before, during, and after their interactions with James. James doesn’t just put random usernames on Snapchat to add them, he has to know how these boys look like to start a “relationship”. Also, all these boys look 16 MAX.

[@jessyjulie5506]

Also, James knows it's so easy to photoshop ids and passports, so even if he checks, there is no way to prevent this.

[@tanja_mp4170]

You know what's even more sickening to me? When people say he's been writing with minors...the hell , writing is not a crime ,but lurking, finding minors, even though it's a crime in the country you live in, sending and demanding pictures of a special kind, it's not writing with minors 🤮🤮🤮 sorry for my writing, English is not my first language

[@Ameliamaemay1990]

Agreed! Like also he has millions of subs and HE adds someone on Snapchat and hasn’t seen their page?!?!? Like nahh James, no one with millions of subs just accidentally adds a 15 year old to sext...just no. Stop pretending we’re stupid.

[@ohhmangos]

it doesn't matter if the minors lied because they are children. james is the adult. james cannot provide reciepts. james is at fault.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

@@tanja_mp4170 your English is great ❤️

[@laurendavis4198]

I think about myself when I was 14, 15, 16 and how desperate I was for someone to love me. I was OBSESSED with One Direction in my early adolescence. I try to imagine what it’d be like if in that vulnerable state somehow My favorite band member started talking to me and flirting with me. He would have complete power over me. And I wouldn’t be able to understand the gravity of the situation because I was a child. I can’t imagine how scarring it would be if he sent me sexual messages or pictures. How would I go on to trust people not to manipulated like that? What James did is so wrong

[@vminhope3040]

Lol it was either One Direction or The Jonás Brothers. I was never interested in neither although I did agree they were mostly handsome boys at the time. I was never a fangirl of anyone until I found BTS at 17 yrs old. But I was already almost an adult lol and I’m still a fan today at 24. But it’s a different kind now that I am older. I don’t prioritize them or buying everything from them like before because I like having money to pay my bills.

[@TahtahmesDiary]

It’s the truth those were hard years. It’s ridiculous to blame the child whose desperate and being hit on by a famous person they adore.

[@BrownEyedGirl1367]

This is why the power dynamic, regardless of age, is so relevant and important.

[@bradhp11]

I know people often joke about it, but it's honestly really weird how so many children/teenagers (especially girls) often had fantasies about their favorite adult celebrities basically gr**ming them. Even with the really corny stuff (like the "ONE DIRECTION ADOPTED ME" wattpad fanfics), it's concerning how easy it can often be to take advantage of a fan (which i'm sure has happened before)

[@saberthecoolest]

You’ve expressed it perfectly. Sure, we all were obsessed with our fave celebs as teens, and longed for them to notice us, but there is a reason why it should have STAYED in our imagination and not become reality.

[@LivTheSlayer]

By James saying these kids "tricked" him, he's basically saying they wanted those inappropriate interaction. No one is ever asking to be preyed upon like that. That midset is so digusting.

[@leah-simonemua8775]

THIS! It's a lot like the 'look at what she was wearing' excuse, isn't it

[@nickyfransky5443]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sakuranbodiru5]

I'm not saying they were but even if they wanted some kind of inappropriate interaction because they find him attarctive, idolize him or whatever, James is still the adult. Tricked or not (again, not saying he was tricked) he's the one that commited an actual crime.

[@lilfairykiki122]

And funny thing is he can’t prove it, and people take it as fact. The kids all have more proof then him. And kids are allowed to find adults attractive, adults are not allowed to go after kids. That’s why only one party gets in trouble when they get together, since one is a victim that cannot consent and the other is a predator.

[@jamarsh09]

It's pathetic really saying that children tricked him a fully grown man with all the power in the dynamic. Even if they "wanted" it as the adult he should do better. The reason statutory is a thing children don't fully grasp what is happening

[@eloh9821]

I hate how he didn’t even address how he PRESSURED these children to send him photos. When they told him they didn’t feel comfortable, he said “just do it dumbass” and “it literally only takes 30 seconds”. That’s the most disgusting part to me

[@molloytaylor]

Did screenshots come up of this? I must have missed that! So gross.

[@_itsdelya_]

exactly!! even if they weren’t underage, his snaps were bordeline harassment and he seems used to this

[@GS_666]

@@molloytaylor yep, photos of the phone

[@25lexxxy]

I have had guys say this to me and it's so fucking dismissive and insensitive.

[@sabrinabee8039]

The biggest red flag when I’m on a dating app. Dudes will do this all the time. You say no and they get super aggressive and all the sudden I’m the bitch. Gross behavior should not be tolerated.

[@thesecondkate]

“Not everyone needs a redemption arc” IM GOING TO SAY THIS LOUDER!!! YESSSS!!!

[@bambooisgr8]

Exactly!!! Redemption arcs are way over romanticized

[@ryanne.5172]

I was jumping up and down! Like, YES! We don’t need you!!! Go away!!!

[@KathrynsLife]

yes!!!

[@daniellel230]

absolutely!!!

[@taylor11111]

Yesssss. People acting like this is cancel culture. This is a CRIME!

[@ThisisDanBell]

you would be an EXCELLENT attorney. this is the best video explaining this situation. thank you.

[@antikytheramechanism2734]

Fancy seeing you here!

[@k_n_c_y]

I was thinking this. She has the passion, rigor, and argument skills to become one.

[@peytonweb]

#WELOVEDANBELL Yessssss!!!🙌😻🤗❤ OMG, made my day to see Dan Bell show up in the comments! And I agree, Smokey Glow NAILED it!💯

[@PheePeaAnimation]

Dan crawling out of some rank motel to stan Smokey

[@blastortoise]

That doesn't have anything to do with being an attorney

[@AnywayyyChile]

ummm he never even addressed WHY he’s only attracted to teenagers that lean toward the straight side of the spectrum. let’s unpack THAT sister....

[@mommy2rae586]

LOUDER FOR THE ONES IN THE BACK!!! 🙌🙌🙌

[@LuckyOrangeTabby08]

My guess is low-key homophobia, like he isn't comfortable with himself or something, or it stems from trauma of some sort. But I could be waaaaaaaaay off.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

100% assume that he has similar trauma to this which is why he thinks its normal.

[@angelica7544]

he said on a podcast that he thinks hes emotionally more mature than people his age and always has been so he should be attracted to older guys but then says he isnt and hes actually attracted to younger guys.... like why admit that on air???

[@ouhhoh]

honestly as a Lesbian myself, I get that sometimes you just end up being into straight people. I think it's weird that he specefically says he's attracted to straight dudes, but that's just something he needs to work on and get over and isn't that uncommon of an experience for gay people. but teenagers?? go to jail

[@sometimesbells]

Being desperate means you date that guy that barely texts you back or the person your friend sets up with, it does not mean you go searching for boys knowing there's a power issue between the two parties. I wanted to add to this. Even if there wasn't an age issue in these relationships, the way he talked to them is still concerning. It was very prevalent that he knew he had an advantage over those boys with the way he demanded from them, you don't talk to someone who's on equal footing with you (even though you shouldn't talk like that to anyone) the way he did to them.

[@jacobbaker4545]

True. I dated losers when I was desperate. Not teenagers

[@rjafitzgerald]

Yeah it’s not always the case but I do think the majority of those whose only issue is that they’re desperate for love are more likely to put themselves at risk than victimise others. There are sadly people that do but like Charles, the desperation isn’t their only issue or even the one that’s making them act that way.

[@maryanc8753]

@@rjafitzgerald I think the other factor is power. Desperation can lead to risky behavior but power makes it so much easier to victimise others.

[@gabriellesmith4552]

Right you’re desperate so you go out of your way to talk to minors? I’m a 22 year old female and I could never go after anyone younger than 21.

[@lalathekido]

Amen. I've been desperate so I've dated men I should not have, but if anybody had power over anybody in those situations they had the power over me. I didn't have the power over them.

[@meganlucey2105]

The fact he uses Snapchat as the platform to speak with these children is very telling. He knows what he is doing

[@danny.96]

Speaks volumes

[@riverdaisy4215]

fr Snapchat messages disappear after some time (or immediately after being seen) unless screenshoted and for the most part middle-high school aged kids use Snapchat sure some adults use it but not nearly as much as kids 12-17/18ish

[@elixkhan3561]

Parents be aware what your kids are doing on line. They should be hold accountable with James.

[@SO01j20]

literally who really past the age of 17 uses snapchat (obviously there are outliers) but MOST of the platform of snapchat is teenagers.

[@asterlyons8564]

@@SO01j20 This is a crazy stretch, snapchat is still incredibly popular among the 18-30 demographic.

[@therustedknight1382]

It also doesn’t help that male victims aren’t taken as seriously as female victims. Victims are Victims regardless of gender.

[@man-wv8xj]

absolutely

[@wwozanewmusical]

thank you for saying that, which is why its been so hard to get people to believe some one like johnny depp also cause women are never abusive to their spuces or husbands or children. Male abuse weather sexual or physical can happen to men or women or boys and girls, the rage is not thinking about gender, even though sexual assult is unforntanitly.

[@DJ-qj2mt]

Right like I don't mean to go their but imagine if this was a girl?

[@therustedknight1382]

@@DJ-qj2mt It would be on CNN and Fox News

[@DJ-qj2mt]

@@therustedknight1382 Front and center

[@hotpocket2609]

“ignorance is not a defense in the court of law, and the reason for that is to protect children” YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHOS BROUGHT THIS UP AND I LOVE YOU FOR IT

[@SpaceDementia_]

Exactly. You don't get to stand up in court and say "sorry, I didn't realise! My bad!"

[@agent_ninety9]

The only one. I love her even more for her using her platform for the right reasons. Soooo much respect to smokey💕💕💓💓💓

[@ew19ew]

Not the only one, but a very good point!

[@TehMomo_]

they literally tried to use "ignorance of the law" to try and defend Donald Trump for one of his many scandals...

[@NEWYORKER131]

@@TehMomo_ i’m a law student- so ignorance of the law is different than ignorance here. ignorance of the law is not knowing there was a law against something- in this case, ignorance that you are breaking a law (ie, not knowing someone is underage) isn’t a defense. he’s not saying he didn’t know it was a crime, just that he didn’t jnow he was committing it.

[@tugboatcaptainCC]

He's the college grad hanging out at the high school football games trying to pick up freshman. The gap in both interests and experience is stunning so I doubt he didn't know.

[@sbg1911]

That!

[@michelleobamafootcream9292]

Nice analogy

[@squidwardsthirdtentacle1198]

@@michelleobamafootcream9292 Yup you're right, that's what it's called.

[@il3077]

Right like what does he have in common with boys in high school??!!

[@vunessuh]

EXACTLY! A 21 year old who is gonna graduate college soon is at a completely different stage in life compared to a 16 year old

[@elainevm]

James: *”My hope has always been to be in a relationship with somebody around my age, or older.”* Also James: *”I’m not physically attracted to older guys. I would date, like, the absolute youngest.”* This is messed up.

[@facetwit99]

I've always found him creepy now I know why I think that

[@jessyjulie5506]

I'm starting to think even when he gets older, he will still date 18 year olds. He will get creepier as he ages.

[@krystendoerr5649]

^^^THIS needs to be addressed more

[@sheisaMachine]

I don’t know how he didn’t feel like what he said was inherently very strange

[@tiyas5378]

As much as I dislike him, that's misquoted. He's shitty enough without having to twist his words.

[@TheWalkerWolf]

What makes his actions even more disturbing is the fact that on one podcast he said himself that he’s interested in highschool boys and he feels like his mental age is 40. LIKE WHAT.

[@missburn]

That's a bit creepy 😯

[@ladycaticorn2950]

That's super creepy. He's probably going to be one of those old men dating an 18-year-old and acting like it's normal.

[@MoonWitch77]

And that was the G’s honest truth. He lied in his apology video about always wanting to be with someone his age or older. He wants young vulnerable sexually confused kids he can control and manipulate.

[@ameera.abubakr]

it makes no sense lmfao why would you want someone younger if you felt older..?

[@miznovalen5030]

A Mental Age of a 40 year old groomer is what he said. Not a Wise one.

[@carlyleyt]

“Negligence and ignorance are not a defence in our legal system.” Enough and incredibly well said. How has JC been able to get away for so long. Ffs.

[@ohisee9173]

To be fair, they are, aren't they? Murder by negligence gets a different sentence than murder with intent. But I guess the point is that the consequence is the same: someone is wronged and the offender needs to be held accountable.

[@erinmarieee23]

@@ohisee9173 That’s how I see it too. In a court of law you can argue negligence in order to get a lighter sentence, but you still did the crime and therefore you still have to face the repercussions.

[@DemxnTheyThem]

Not a legal defence in Canada either.

[@adrianviktorbjrklnd]

Because people have said “he’s so young and he’s a victim” not accepting that he’s a grown man too and bare responsibility like everyone else - and especially because he’s a rich and famous person that can easily take advantages of others. He’s no victim, he’s well aware of this - but it’s easier to blame everyone else I as if you didn’t know hooking up and grooming underage boys is illegal.

[@ItsjustMorgan89]

I’m sorry, but I’ve been “desperate to be in a romantic relationship” before and I have NEVER had sexually explicit conversations with minors.... it is not an excuse

[@adrianviktorbjrklnd]

100%!! I’m forever single and I wish I had someone, but I would and could NEVER jump on a fucking minor🤢

[@Watermelonsoup420]

so glad you’re talking about this. never feel bad about being “ranty” or yelling when it comes to serious issues like this.

[@smells1e.-_]

Fr everyone has a right to be mad because of what he has done. He’s disgusting and is actively hurting people

[@Ameliamaemay1990]

Agreed

[@DiMagnolia]

I ranted about this to my mom earlier and we were both shouting, I’m glad that Hannah isn’t holding back.

[@elizabethgregory]

Amen

[@17spacexguac]

When she said, "People in power can be that way and think that way & we see it time & time again." THEN followed it up with "We don't need a magical redemption story, FUCK THAT! we don't need people like this on this app. We don't need this person to be the face of the fucking beauty community!" HANNAH, YOU FUCKING GLORIOUS QUEEN & REASONABLE ANGEL OF KZbin! YOU'RE MAGNIFICENT!!! I LOVE HOW YOU USE YOUR PLATFORM!! KEEP ON DOING YOU, GIRL!!! THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO BE ON EVERYONE'S RECOMMENED PAGE ALONG WITH A *STANDING OVATION* !!!! Sooo much love to you, Hannah!!!👑🧡🧡🧡

[@seroquelz]

Yea I'm calling bs on his "I didn't know about power imbalance" shit. According to Bye Sister he told Tati that he could make any man sleep with him gay or straight bc he's rich and famous. That certainly sounds like someone who knows how to wield their power over fans to me.

[@MiscellaneousBLKGirl]

THIS.

[@RaniniPastel]

he also said that he was able to provide flights/travel for people he was dating and offered it up as a perk of being with him and said that was what he, as James Charles, would be able to bring to the table!! ofc he recognizes the power imbalance

[@XFactorGlory]

When I was 14, a 17 year old boy took a liking to me and we dated for a few weeks before I realized that he was looking for more than I was comfortable with. When he was 20, he slept with my 17 year old best friend and they dated for a year. When he was 25, I realized he was now dating an 18 year old and it was at that moment I realized he was a predator, and always had been. James' age doesn't excuse him from a clear pattern of behavior. Edit: it's incredibly depressing how many people relate to this or experienced something similar themselves, but I hope increasing awareness will stop these predators quicker and prevent more victims.

[@amirashaweshify]

Same, at 16 i dated a 21 year old. At the time it was fine but now at 22 i realize that no 22 around me is dating high-schoolers and how weird and lame and creepy that is. Thats when i realized i was baited and groomed.

[@GotNoMoreOatmeal]

@@amirashaweshify I’m really sorry that happened to you. Hope youre doing great now :)

[@sirenumscopuli9754]

I hate that this comment made me feel validated in being creeped out by the fact that I dated a 20 year old at 17...

[@sodapopp4367]

@@sirenumscopuli9754 Eh so did I but I really don't think a 3 year age gap is that big of a deal. Freshmans date Seinors (in high school and college) so there's no need to make it sound weird or predatory. *Unless the guy was like a creep in your personal situation then by all means

[@lilgrogu1187]

@@sodapopp4367 but it IS weird and creepy. Your mentality and life completely changes. At 14 you’re just getting into hs, while at 17-18, you’re getting ready to go to college, become a legal adult. At 20 shit you have so much more responsibilities than any teen does (usually). The maturity level drastically changes based on the environment you’re usually put into. As someone who’s 21, I don’t even date 18-19 y/o because while I’m getting ready to graduate college and take one a whole ass career, why would I want to be with a kid who’s barely taking on their responsibilities? It might sound like “just three years” but so much changes within that time, there’s a separation of maturity levels. Which ultimately leads to a power dynamic where the older one is in control of the younger ones nativity.

[@hanpha123]

"Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, and three times is a habit..."

[@facelessvoid7747]

yeah except in this case even once is a crime

[@tinyrick4991]

4 times is being a famous youtuber who makes millions and gets away with it

[@smexipenguin]

And we’re already at 8 times and this creep hasn’t even got a slap on the wrist from sponsors, KZbin or his fans.

[@sigheyeroll]

8 times is a serial crime.

[@jadehanson1989]

I’m 28 and I’ve never been able to have a genuine relationship with a man. I still have never talked to children. He’s disgusting and needs removed from the platform

[@137-trimethylxanthin7]

yes I got so nauseous when I read the chats in other videos. He's fully aware of the power imbalance. It seems to consume him so much, where tf is his moral compass

[@kimmyball4961]

He's committing crimes!!!!!!!

[@stelag6201]

@@137-trimethylxanthin7 where did u read the chats??

[@anti_ivyy]

@@stelag6201 i found them on TikTok

[@TipTheScales27]

Same here. 28 and everything

[@kaitlynham4787]

Asking for proof of ID and his team carefully examining everyone feels the same as when SA allegations come out and men say they’ll make women sign consent agreements, it just doesn’t sit right and doesn’t address the root issue

[@swimminginhoney]

Exactly, like instead of putting on this dramatic show why doesn’t he just not send sexual messages to people he doesn’t know? To his fans were are typically underage? He’s basically saying “from now on, I will gather all this info about strangers that talk to me on the internet so that I can send them sexual messages’ -that’s such a weird conclusion to come to from all this

[@susiem.2068]

I don't necessarily agree. At least, it deters and scares away most people who know in their heart they are not supposed to be there. If you're a kid, you know you don't want a whole legal team reviewing your ID and locating your parents. The same way if you have crappy intentions you won't sign a marriage contract wih a penalty you know you can't afford. It's a great way to protect yourself and screen your counterpart. Dating apps are just social media outlets with more selective interactions. I think that it is necessary to gather that type of information especially when you're an influent person as it might ruin your life. People have been sending smut letters for centuries and sexting has been around for at least as long as BlackBerrys have been around. I do agree that he shouldn't talk to fans because as we know he caters to a too young audience to mess with them.

[@kaitlynham4787]

@@susiem.2068 I understand your perspective, the legal team looking through individuals and checking their IDs has benefits and will deter minors from pretending they are 18+ but in his video he never actually addresses the issue of the fact that other members in society don’t have this issue because most ppl, especially high status individuals don’t send sexually implicit photos/videos without knowing the individual at least enough to confirm their age, checking IDs is just one aspect of the solution, not the entire solution but he talks about it as if it solves the problem entirely when it doesn’t solve his mindset around the issue.

[@peng7771]

men saying that makes me uncomfortable too... it's like they are upset at the fact that they can't get away with assaulting someone and they are annoyed that they need consent. idk. rubs me the wrong way

[@fishtie894]

I get your point but I don't really agree with the comparison tbh, you can coerce someone into signing a consent agreement, but showing proof of ID while yeah not the best option I guess is not something that can be "scammed" the same way the consent agreement could be. If you don't want to show proof your 18 or older then the interaction stops, unless you're suggesting them being coerced into making a fake ID? The signed consent form is used to protect the abuser but making it abundantly clear youre underage protects you

[@tahanimyra3588]

I’m 21 years old, and have never had a romantic relationship in my entire life but I would NEVER stoop so low as to message someone who’s underage because of being ‘desperate’. That does NOT excuse why he did what he did. Sad because so many of us wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt when the whole ‘Bye Sister’ scandal came out.

[@BethThereseReacts]

exactly.. also it's like, so were you desperate or did you not know how young they are, james? cuz it can't be both. 🙄

[@Rebecca-iy6zg]

Same. I’m 19 and the idea of dating someone even a *year* younger than me grosses/weirds me out. I really hope that this will finally be the time where James is shunned and deplatformed from the internet.

[@MySweetAriane]

Exactly! He is in denial about himself. That's like saying all the adults who have taken advantage of children and teens are desperate. No they are sick predators!

[@siouxd799]

What is so gross to say is that he was using these children for his own sexual gratification. The whole situation needs to be re-phrased so the SERIOUSNESS is unmistakable. It is a crime!

[@siouxd799]

My primary school head master and two of my year 7 teachers were pedophiles. 3 in one school. I had close interaction with all of them. Years after finding this out I am still sick to my stomach.

[@jessoas6065]

My thing is he has so much money, employees, resources etc. He could literally send a link to one of his employees of someone’s profile and say “hey vet this guy for me” . He’d have the actual info within an hour, age included

[@MySweetAriane]

This! Spot on

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

They got COVID tests for all their stupid parties, but they don’t have the resources to vet people he wants to text? Pls. James could have full ass background checks done on dudes with swiftness if he wanted. He knew what he was doing.

[@dh5573]

oh no, all he needed was a sloppy, (non-existing) "receipt" from the boys that they've lied about their age. that was enough for him to allow himself to prey on them and intimidate them just in case.

[@hotmamma2126]

He didn't need them when he wished one of the victims a happy 15th birthday. He acts like it's a hassle to age check when any legal adult would be able to prove it in seconds with one ID photo 🤢

[@Blue.1889]

@@hotmamma2126 Even if these kids showed their school ID, I doubt he'd stop or take an actual screenshot

[@___Emily__]

THANK YOU for using the word “children”. Sick of only hearing the term “minors”, because that’s what they are in the legal sense. “Children” or “teenagers” is what they are culturally and socially. They’re HIGH SCHOOL aged teenagers and teenagers are still very much children in that they aren’t fully developed neurologically, emotionally, or physically.

[@Lenntill19]

Yeah, exactly! I commented about this on another video but I do not like the way he said "guys" in his video. They are *boys*.

[@Love-yp2fj]

Doesn’t that apply to James since humans don’t fully develop at 25?

[@theguybrarian]

People are also quick to forget that he LIED and SCAMMED his way on the Ellen show with his "viral photo". This photo was his launching Pad to Covergirl and his KZbin brand. Since then never believed a word out of this guys mouth. He was 16 at the time. This guy knows what he is doing and saying at all times.

[@OK-yb7hn]

wait what did he lie about and what was this photo? i always wondered how he even got famous lmao

[@theguybrarian]

@@OK-yb7hn My memory is very fuzzy on the details. Here is a link to the article about the story www.buzzfeed.com/victoriasanusi/this-teen-retook-his-senior-year-photo-to-make-sure-his-high His friend came out on record saying the whole thing was fake. A little more of a deeper dive will get you more info if you like.

[@OK-yb7hn]

@@theguybrarian thank you!

[@lindamorph694]

We need to start cancel ppl when they get exposed bc they are gonna do worst

[@MoonWitch77]

Even his junior high/high school classmates said he use to catfish other classmates to get nudes. This is a dangerous behaviour that he’s still doing. But the age of the victims never change. Just the victims. Although some were (barely) adults, there’s still that power imbalance that he uses to his advantage knowing damn well he’s doing it.

[@MamaDoctorJones]

Not a single lie. 🔥 this is it.

[@sasha9647]

Girl, how do u not have more likes ??

[@Katlynboaty]

I’m here for Mama Dr Jones supporting us 🙌🏻💗

[@katherine5797]

@@Katlynboaty I can’t imagine that I’m so happy a healthcare professional is supporting victims. I’ve had doctors tell me I was lying about SA so seeing someone validate victims is so reassuring.

[@notugalan]

i’m starting to realize why more and more videos are showing up in my recommended like this! you’re always under them, haha!

[@lilliankidd2359]

exactly!!! She said it all!!

[@valerie3817]

the like to dislike ratio on the video is just honestly so terrifying. thousands of people accepted that apology when they had no right to and thought it was okay james charles did this to kids just because he’s james charles.

[@miaconstransitch8979]

also alot of his fans are kids so they dont see the problem with his actions.

[@heyitsalannaluv]

I agree..I kinda feel like james is buying likes or something too..something isnt right with that..

[@taiy5296]

I talked to some friends about this and they think people is quirky forgiving because nothing physical happened, that the story would be different if he was physically with minors... I understand my friends point of view but a crime is a crime and what James did is a crime.

[@heyitsalannaluv]

@@taiy5296 the unfortunate thing is still causes a lot of trauma. Even though they didjt get ppl physically attacked it is proven that even sexting is damaging. A lot of these people watching thisbdont fully understand why this is wrong and their brains aren't even fully developed yet as well.. a problem I have is people accepting his apology when it isnt theirs to accept. Not to mention james is acting like there are two victims when there is 8 or 9 at this point...this is a crazy situation but people who have done the same or less have gone to jail...

[@hannahedithrose]

also i think people still perceive james as a child because he was so young when he rose to popularity but we need to realise that he is now a grown ass man and should be held accountable as such

[@sarahkennedy7979]

I appreciate the fact that when you referred to the victims you called them children. After watching James apology video all I could think was he still doesn’t get it. THEY ARE CHILDREN.

[@ZoeeHeatherWalkeer]

"being a youtuber is not some right, you don't have a right to be the top youtuber on the platform, it is a privilege, and when you abuse that privilege...you should be de-platformed." yes, yes and YES again to this!!

[@makeupchick9544]

10000% this. It's shocking how many people in the public eye think they have a right to redeem themselves from their bad behavior. Consequences are real and I don't want to give my money to anyone who doesn't get it.

[@1infoful]

Say it louder for the ones in the back and for the biased KZbin administration and owner who deletes others platforms for less and only demonetizes their moneymakers. I said it.

[@xryxix]

Absolutely. Tired of the enabling of pain

[@tommimartin4630]

@@makeupchick9544 qqqqqqq

[@katrinalizon5750]

The best thing my therapist ever told me, "you don't have to forgive anyone for anything" you heal and move on, and you should never be okay with the nasty shit people do. This is so gross I hope he dissappears lmao

[@idontlikeanime1578]

"you don't have to forgive anyone for anything" I needed to hear that, thank you.

[@C.C.369]

I'm so releved that he told this to U and U commented this and i red it! Thank U for sharing ❤️ And all the best for U :)

[@psychott6]

Thank you for the sharing the insight

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Yo tell your therapist I said thanks, because I’ve been thinking about an abusive relative and feeling pity for them because they fully isolated themselves from almost everyone in their life for being shit. And I was like “well maybe I should just give them something” but this brought me some validation in my no-contact decision.

[@katrinalizon5750]

@@jazwhoaskedforthis I'm so proud of you all!! And you got this! I've been in that kind of relationship before and I promise no contact is the best thing to do. Work on yourself girl! You're the most important thing and you deserve to be happy!!

[@indiging8330]

THANK YOU for not referring to the victims, literal minors, as 'young men' or something similar as many other videos have. They are boys, children and kids and not men in these cases and referring to them as anything else is taking away from what James has done.

[@cbalparda]

Exactly! I hate the phrase “underage men” or “underage women” there’s no such thing!! The word is “CHILD”

[@ronan8764]

I'm a 21 year old guy and literally cannot imagine ever dating a high schooler, and the thought of it is so creepy. 21 year olds maturity and lives are so different from someone in high school. James needs to learn how to be okay with being by himself and stay single for a while to work on himself. The last thing he needs is to be in a relationship. I hope he gets help.

[@MNLGHT711]

Same I’m 21 and 19 year olds weird me out because they haven’t even experienced what I have

[@maddieanderson6796]

Yeah, I’m 23 and my sister is 20 and I don’t know I would ever want to date someone her age. The idea weirds me out to think about

[@Mememetilda]

Yes exactly! I'm 22 and those years between highschool and now, you grow at an alarming rate. I couldn't imagine seeing someone in highschool as anything other than a kid

[@v.anessa1451]

im 21 too, and I think abt where I am in my life rn.. 21 year olds are juniors in college, and we can legally drink, etc. like wtf is someone that age doing with a 14-16 year old little kid??

[@Liizzzziirr]

&&& the argument James has about “being more mature for his age” just adds to the creep factor. If he truly believes hes wise for his age, wouldn’t he be annoyed by someone who is naive and immature????

[@lunastarot]

James used to be an Inspiration to me, i have no words to describe the way this makes me feel. It’s literally sickening 🙅‍♀️James I’m sorry but you canceled yourself.

[@victoriadorotheajulianne8803]

Fr

[@terrifrances5257]

Be your own inspiration from now on.

[@kherise]

I would never understand what´s the enchantment with that guy or the most of make up "gurus" for that matter tbh...There are really inspiring smart people out there, don´t worry

[@annasophia2428]

u dont need to be sorry, he was the one that fucked himself up

[@lunastarot]

@@terrifrances5257 You can be your own Inspiration but also be inspired by others, There is nothing wrong with that.

[@Lyds1]

If you call a CHILD who is being talked to in an inappropriate way by an ADULT a clout chaser, you are part of the problem. There’s a reason for an age of consent - children do not have the capacity to make that choice for themselves until they turn 16/18. They are not at fault in any way.

[@sinlobo84]

This!

[@jstan626]

absolutely! even if they had done all the things james claims they did, it is his responsibility as an adult to not engage with these children

[@lizethrosas8482]

Heck I don’t think I had any lick of sensibility and common sense til my early mid twenties. There’s absolutely no excuse to mess with kids. My motto is “If their age ends in teen dating them is obscene”

[@beautyandfashion1563]

THISSSSS

[@DianaHernandez-du6yr]

@MsYogaGrrrl this isn’t even the place or time for that conversation

[@SammyP038]

I’m a 22 year old who has never dated or had a relationship of the romantic sort. Yet I would NEVER even think of dating 19yrs or younger. To blame this on desperation is absolutely disgusting. So many people are probably lonely during this pandemic yet aren’t searching out young adults/children.

[@137-trimethylxanthin7]

Him saying that he was desperate was so infuriating to me. I mean I get it but the moment you make others uncomfortable f.in STOP. Get some toys or sth🙄 or therapy🤷🏼‍♀️ I met my first and still boyfriend at 21 and honestly u don't miss a thing :) I'm so glad I took my time to develop and deal with college and finish development on my own. You should never need another person.

[@137-trimethylxanthin7]

to be clear with the therapy thing I meant if your need gets as strong as JC claimed it got for him that you harm others in some way. Being lonely is normal, it gets better :) Also, therapy is awesome

[@SammyP038]

@@137-trimethylxanthin7 100%! The one reason why I haven’t dated yet is because, even though I’m 22 I still have a lot of issues that I need to deal with on my own. I feel like if I were to rush into a relationship I would put a lot of toxicity on my partner which isn’t fair to them. I think James should be thinking the same way tbh lol, he doesn’t seem to be mature enough for this type of commitment.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

I am also 22, haven’t been in a relationship in over 2 years and I’m tired of being single. I have never even LOOKED at a child. Never even THOUGHT about a child. I have zero interest in people younger than me. That’s just normal I do not understand how he acts like it’s such a hard thing

[@carolinemercer9779]

I’m 25 and have never been in a relationship. Seems weird to consider dating someone under 21, not to mention someone under 18. It’s a sorry excuse for his nasty behavior

[@alidingu]

the beauty community canceled and de-platformed james so quick after bye sister, why are we not putting the same efforts towards de-platforming him now WHEN HE HAS ACTUALLY ADMITTED TO COMMITTING A FELONY ***EDIT *** before something along the lines of this is said again: i completely understand that people are hesitant to cancel james after he was able to debunk the allegations made in bye sister. BUT, unlike bye sister, james has literally ADMITTED to sending inappropriate messages to minors. which means: he can no longer debunk these allegations and they’re not really allegations anymore - with his confession, these allegations essentially became a fact. HE LITERALLY CONFIRMED AND CONFESSED TO THESE ALLEGATIONS AND HE CANNOT DEBUNK THEM, SO THERE SHOULD BE NO HESITATION IN CANCELING AND DEPLATFORMING AN ADMITTEDLY, GUILTY MAN.

[@sunnysquishy1590]

The power and balance thing really pissed me off too. He doesn't know how much lower he has. Bullshit!!

[@averythequeen9266]

I think that’s because they don’t want to do that again

[@DebsDemurrer]

Multiple times!!!

[@kirstyevans7341]

The difference is the first time it was Tati cancelling him, and this time it's faceless nobodies on tiktok/Snapchat.

[@alidingu]

@@kirstyevans7341 i totally get that but the fact that he actually admitted to it & people are still supporting him is just disgusting in my opinion

[@FacheChanteDeux]

Being desperate for true love and being desperate for controlling sexual gratification are two very different things. James is the latter- with eyes very wide open.

[@purplelamp273]

Yup, my assaulter in high school (a faculty member who obviously has power) claimed he was ONLY GIVING ME SPECIAL ATTENTION and cried when confronted by admin at my school, apologizing saying it would never happen again. It happened again. I went back to the admin and they didn't do anything about it. I spent the rest of my 3 years in high school trying to get him held accountable. It never happened. I now have a very weird relationship with people in power. In college, I had to contact some admin to dispute a grade I got and just emailing them and seeing their response triggered me and brought me back to high school. People in power who abuse said power are scum

[@Chloe-cs2nc]

this breaks my heart. thank you for sharing

[@stressednspicy2945]

oh god people fucking suck. i hope you're doing better now and that you and everybody else who went through the same things as you may find peace in life. EDIT: spelling lmao

[@jennakimball8265]

"Not everyone needs a redemption arc." EXACTLY. This is not some prime-time television show and these "apology" videos are not the season finale where you get to go off into the sunset with a perfect ending. This is real life-he needs to be deplatformed, arrested and prosecuted. End of story. HOW is this shit up for debate.

[@simonep.9121]

No one should be able to get away with grooming children, no matter their status. It’s truly sad the world we live in lets people get away with this.

[@_june101]

You literally deserve awards for this. You fucking NAILED it. Absolutely nailed it. Thank you for speaking up and being brave enough to say what so many people are too scared to.

[@malcolmblacc2979]

I like July better

[@lordessgoosecool]

Excuse me, but James Charles is 21. Imagine if he was fresh out of college, shadowing a high school teacher in a school. Imagine if he started having these relationships with students. The issue would be immediately obvious. It's amazing the flexibility we're willing to give people who have achieved fame in the entertainment field regarding abusive relationships and inappropriate age gaps. Flexibility that would be unthinkable in other contexts.

[@hilaryduff1495]

Exactly!!!!

[@sarak8103]

Yeah I’m studying education right now and am the same age as James. Right now he would be doing his student teaching and would be in a school 5 days a week. This behavior is very concerning.

[@Shutupdede]

This!!!

[@taryn3082]

this is such a great way of putting it

[@Kayla-xt9hx]

Your comment, exactly!! 100%

[@kaisachu]

A guy I once met at a bar literally made me do math and logic puzzles and show him my ID before he would hook up with me and at the time I found it funny but now seven years later I’m realising that he was just looking out for me and making sure I wasn’t underage or too drunk... Literally a hundred times more effort and precaution from a regular guy than from a wholeass celebrity...

[@TheRouse24]

he was a decent guy.

[@kaydwessie296]

I'm a woman and I'm even considering using bars as first date locations so I can know my date is 21+

[@OGseoulite]

@@kaydwessie296 that sounds like a great idea, wish people would stop waiting at the bus stop

[@meyeneetuks4680]

Lmao that guy doing the most lol. Thats a lot of effort

[@shilorz]

that's amazing wtf /gen,, im gonna keep that in mind

[@melindahicks9146]

He weirdly seemed upbeat and positive in his apology video, like he knew he could get away with this

[@sieshae]

@Princess Peach Pea you should watch Observe’s video analyzing James’ body language!!!!!!! it’s really good and explains so much about James and what he might be thinking in the apology video

[@emmDelilah]

Predators are just that sick and twisted

[@jocypare6019]

observe just made a vid where he states that exact same thing.

[@aliciajustin4801]

He had a 'god I have to do it again' vibe. Didn't feel an ounce of remorce on his face. It looks like he's repeating a script he by hearted a long time back

[@as19J01]

He enjoyed what he did and he enjoyed reliving it throughout his apology video. Also, he kept looking away from the camera which seems like he was reading a script. I think the script (and his team) is what prevented him from bursting into laughter or smiling

[@Hotchipandlie]

Him saying he’s desperate is just literally SO bizarre to me. It was the most bizarre apology like wtf. It’s almost like he’s trying to normalize that behavior. I definitely think some younger people (his fans) don’t understand how serious this is and won’t until they teach a certain age.

[@meghangerhart643]

“Not everyone needs a redemption arc.” Honestly, I could have stood up and cheered. I hope this video gets a lot of views. Even when visibly angry and upset (as we all should be) you were articulate, rational, honest, unwavering, and insightful. You are the kind of person that I trust to make these arguments and talk about these difficult subjects because you have the perfect blend of passion and eloquence, intelligence and empathy. It is a privilege and a inspiration to hear you speak and I want you to know that your words do have impact. Please keep speaking.

[@jamarsh09]

Most people don't need a redemption arc. You have to earn that but most people don't work to change and improve. Most internet stars know they don't need to do that to still get ther arc so they don't even try

[@mariadelacruz5712]

absolutely agree and also glad you were able to put into words what I was thinking

[@RandomIsMyLif3]

IKR it’s so true, ugh ppl think the worst crimes are redeemable. Reminds me of tv show tropes these days..abusers and r*pists getting redemption arcs..like??? Cough 13 reasons why 😕 They can’t atone for that, they can only remove themselves from their stronger position in the abusive power dynamic, and face every legal/social consequence..they can’t atone when they have victims who suffered from their actions...while they get to walk away from the situation“redeemed” & with no consequences

[@EdgyVeg]

You deserve a standing ovation for this video 👏🏼

[@lorrainevanlelyveld8065]

Agree. Thank you thank you for this video. It is the best video I have heard about this subject of victim shaming. As a retired teacher I saw what victim shaming did to children. It DESTROYS them.!! I know of children who were abused in Grade 6 and 7 and today as 35, 38 yr olds they ARE still suffering. It affected their families, friends, husband's ànd wives. They started cutting and a few never stopped. They have thrown themselves down stairs, tried suicide many times . Have had failed and abusive relationships and marriages AND THEIR children are suffer now! They were BLAMED for enticing these evil people. They were vilified by their peers, teachers and other parents. So for me ONE is too many. The pain NEVER goes away. These EVIL abusers carry on living without a minutes thought to the trail of abuse, pain and heartache they leave behind. People who do this to children, actually anybody should NOT be on KZbin at all. Should be in jail. don't care if they lose everything. My blood boils!!😡😡😡🤬 there are many who ARE destroying lives and nobody is doing anything, but I thank you once again for your love and passion that you have for children. Stay safe. Love from South Africa.

[@Unknown-cfs]

she did 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@agent_ninety9]

It could not and has not been said any better.

[@Modal_Mixxture]

Literally! Here for my second watch, it is just TOO GOOD!

[@phoenixgirl70]

This was the Hannah I subscribed for. She got soft for a bit, but now I know, she’s still in there.

[@elizabethcervantes9693]

“i don’t understand why everyone on this fucking app needs a redemption arc” THANK YOU 👏🏼 someone finally put it into words for me. it seems like there’s an endless cycle of fuck ups and “apology” videos, everyone gets a second chance, five or six times. it’s so frustrating

[@justjoannak]

For real

[@susanbennett9062]

Truth.

[@ASM1228]

Bc cancel culture has gotten out of hand and now we’re relying on holding people accountable but now that has turned into, “if they apologize then I guess we gotta forgive them” even if it isn’t our apology to accept and, I suppose now, even if the apology pertains to the legality of the situation

[@sabbb6870]

the fact he said "i like younger boys" and when he said "go to the bathroom where your parents cant walk in" is VILE. if hes saying "go to the bathroom **where your parents cant walk in**" he OBVIOUSLY knows they arent 18. these bring back horrible traumatic events that i had and i know how pressurizing it is, especially as a minor. i will no longer support James or watch his videos or give him the algorithm he DOES NOT deserve. i am a victim of this and a survivor, this makes my blood boil.

[@man-wv8xj]

holy shit, I never thought about that bathroom comment. I literally can’t think of any other reason why he would add the parents part unless he knew he was underage. disgusting

[@sashamarie7589]

In his coming out story he talks about being “addicted” to sexual experiences on Omegle with older men, AT THE AGE OF 12! I really don’t think he comprehends how messed up what he’s doing is because of that.

[@Butterflier00]

Y I K E S like....james, honey.....you were being PREYED upon.

[@purpleeyebrows19]

And now he's literally doing the same shit to these children

[@mmhnma]

I was just thinking about this. Now he’s become the offender.

[@lalagreeneyes]

I feel this is the actual root of the problem. Not desperation. Unfortunately, it's not uncommon for the prey to become the predator.

[@MRuby-qb9bd]

@@lalagreeneyes Yeah, it's been so normalized for him. That's really sad.

[@olive5384]

How us “being desperate” an excuse for sending inappropriate messages to a child? Like, wtf?

[@furchild4742]

Its not. If he's that desperate, he can go to Grindr or Tinder.

[@diane4901]

Thats literally rape culture tbh

[@dante6985]

That's what I said in a comment above. That's such a gross defense. It's like.. by that logic he could kidnap someone to 'love him'. Eew.

[@sienamoreno3776]

Ik its pathetic

[@ehall870]

he’s not desperate for a relationship he’s just desperate. he’s obviously uncomfortable and doesn’t want to talk about it cuz maybe he doesn’t want to hold himself accountable. but his actions were still disgusting and he really dug himself into a pretty big ditch

[@JH-kw8zy]

After Bye Sister I never forgave James. I always knew that he's not looking for love. He's looking for power and adoration he didn't get in highschool. I've been saying this, James Charles is so rich that he could hire five matchmakers across the US, three in Canada, and two in Majorca Spain. There would be someone to love him but they'd be equal and not as satisfying as finally getting Dylan's positive attention. Even if it's some other boy. He is CRIMINALLY emotionally stunted. He has all the resources for daily therapy, rehab stays, live in life coaches. He very much knows how he is, that it's not okay, and he's really happy doing it. I don't care about James anymore. I think he should be made an example of, though.

[@spectre9340]

Thank you! I felt so alone in my distrust of James after Dramageddon 2.0. Everyone seemed to forgive him after his No More Lies video but there were so many things he failed to address in that video so I was always just waiting to see if he'd ever bring it up.

[@gloomscrolling]

I'm honestly glad I'm not the only one who still got weird vibes from James after bye sisters even the fact that he was hanging out with the Demelios is super weird even if they're all influencers he should spend time with people his age. Even though I feel like JS played a role in Bye Sisters I think that Tati showed genuine concern for James and his predatory behavior I wish people took it more seriously instead of saying it's just drama.

[@jfm14]

@@spectre9340 Yeah, it was really weird that everyone so willingly overlooked the fact that JC didn't address all the allegations. Just because he was wronged in many ways didn't mean he shouldn't have still been held accountable for the inappropriate behavior he was guilty of. But people didn't want to hear that. They wanted a dramatic clapback and a redemption narrative.

[@biguattipoptropica]

@@spectre9340 he waved it away by saying "yeah some of my behaviour was predatory looking back" and people believed him and didn't believe the allegations even though one of them panned out and both are extremely similar to the allegations now (though those guys were both of age).

[@Hurricanetongue]

Exactly he didn't clear anything in that video idk why people simply "forgave him" they need to be held accountable for being dumbasses and enabling james charles behavior

[@mr.peepers9820]

There was one victim who came forward and him talking about his experience with James triggered a really horrible memory for me. He was saying that James pressured him into taking lewd photos of himself despite feeling uncomfortable doing so. Seeing and hearing James use that manipulative language like 'oh just go to the bathroom and do it' honestly made me remember things from a really horrible relationship I was in. I was 13 at the time, 4 years ago now. But the fact that he used such manipulative language like that on a teenager, makes me boil. Those words alone made me remember so many situations where that was his way of getting what he wanted from me. I am disgusted, I will not be forgiving James Dickinson, and I will not be supporting any of James's projects/collaborations furthermore. Actions speak louder than words, and it seems as though both are catching up with him.

[@aleaf1494]

I hope you're doing better. No one should have to go through something like that.

[@hi-kt8jj]

i've been in your situation before too. it's really appalling how so many of us underage kids go through that. keeping you in my prayers, i hope you move past it

[@ameera.abubakr]

same

[@TheMegbet]

I’m the same age as James. When I see 18 year olds they seem so much younger than me. I find it hard to believe James couldn’t tell that the people he was talking to were under 18

[@85arrie]

And I’m sure he knows most of his fans are underaged so why even risk it

[@deathsplat8620]

I was just thinking the exact same thing- how people jumping to his defense pretend time and time again that he's an innocent, naive child who doesn't have the mental capacity to discern why his actions are wrong. And/or pretending that the gap in development and power dynamics is not that significant between him and a minor. Except I'm the same age as well and it could not be any clearer to me why this is beyond gross and unacceptable.

[@justjoannak]

Same!

[@ositaiza888]

im 20. the idea of being interested in someone either in high school or just got out of high school seems weird and uncomfortable to me. i can't understand how he thought that was okay

[@juliatarallo5002]

i really wanna know why he thinks this is just an oopsie....james this is a federal crime

[@smells1e.-_]

Right??? Like an apology doesn’t fix anything

[@Kim-gb5vk]

He said he "realized" the root of the problem is that he's desperate...like that isn't obvious but not that he's into children as if that's not the BIGGER issue...smh

[@robinnilsson9487]

He's white and rich. Any real crime is just an oops when you're privileged

[@micahsellers8594]

Because he’s rich and white so he knows nothing is going to happen to him.

[@holly2232]

Ikr have the police been involved at all yet??

[@lizzyshark]

Even if a child is pursuing someone older for "clout", the adult is responsible, PERIOD. This is like those criminals who say a child seduced them. Absolute insanity.

[@Velereonics]

A teenager is not a child and they are smart enough to take advantage of oblivious people. I don't think that's entirely what happened here but you can google examples of adults winning sexual assault cases against teens.

[@Velereonics]

@@bgsdraws2778 there's a huge difference in intelligence between children and teens. You mean that they are both minors, but teenagers can and do deceive adults in a lot of contexts including this one. My point was that teenagers can do bad things. Again I don't think James is completely innocent here and what he omits is kinda telling, but he might not be lying about being lied to/manipulated.

[@kennedywhite4350]

@@Velereonics I can understand being lied to once. After that the blame is all his. Please stop trying to victim blame. Teens can do bad things, but in this situation the responsibility is his.

[@Velereonics]

@@kennedywhite4350 Independent events. Being lied to once doesn't mean you'll catch the next time it happens. I am not victim blaming. Don't straw man what I'm saying.

[@Motions.in.Lemonaid]

@@Velereonics no they are not, teens brains are not matured or fully developed. Teens are treated differently in our criminal justice system for this reason.

[@annaj8988]

Thank you for calling the victims children. So many people have just been saying “under age boys.” I think that takes away from the gravity of the situation. They are fing children!!

[@KRIZ·TEE]

No they are not, they're kids

[@musicjam93]

Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson are definitely not innocent, but it's insane that Morhpe dropped them and even Laura Lee so quickly after their wrong doings, but they are still selling James' palette. By continuing to work with James, his young audience won't understand how serious this is and will excuse his actions.

[@ShireneGehawi]

As a 15 year old girl, this is really scary for me. Not only were the victims my age but this could have happened to anyone of his sexual preference. I wish people took this more seriously so Kids my age wouldn’t have to be scared. I also have a past with assault (specifically physical) and I just wish so badly that people cared for the victims. Honestly thank you Hannah, you always uplift me and help me get through my day, to hear someone speak abt this topic means a lot :( (Edit): thank you to everyone who’s been checking in and sending me really nice replies, it honestly made me feel valid and loved

[@MGthief26]

Bless you. Although there are sickos there are so many adults who will stick up for you and your safety x

[@ShireneGehawi]

@@MGthief26 thank you so much!! Stay safe too

[@bethanymuraya]

I am so sorry you had to go through that and you make a really good point with your statement ❤️

[@SarahPaceSings]

Jimin, I'm so glad youre watching this as a 15 year old!!!! ❤❤❤ Hannah's video is extremely insightful and I wish I knew someone like her when I was 15. I hope you have a great week 🌞

[@ShireneGehawi]

@@bethanymuraya it’s okay, I’ve gotten better even though it may hurt to think about at time, thank you for encouraging me ❤️❤️

[@DiMagnolia]

“I was desperate” “I didn’t know” “they came onto me” “they lied about their age” “they tricked me” LITERALLY WHAT EVERY SINGLE CREEP SAYS. I was preyed on by a man his age when I was 16 and looking back it SICKENS ME. The power imbalance just in the age difference is MASSIVE, let alone when the person is also FAMOUS. Of COURSE I was into the older guy and felt like a damn princess when he wanted to be with me, HE IS THE ADULT IN THE SITUATION, IT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY NO. When I was 18 I started working at a high school and had to set the STRICTEST BOUNDARIES because I was the SAME AGE AS THE SENIORS!! Literally the same age, maybe a few months older, BUT I KNEW IT WAS WRONG AND I COULD BE FIRED. So why the FVCK do JC or my ex think it’s okay to date a CHILD when they are 21??? At 21+ anyone under 21 is too damn young.

[@jules6578]

I'm 15 and I used to be a fan of James. I'm scared af for me, my friends and my relatives. its fucking sick and disgusting 🤮

[@swimgirl24]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 THIS x100

[@Augustowind809]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

[@sugarmilk28]

Just a question..but why do people include 18 year olds dating older people as "bad"? It is the legal age and 18 year olds can also apply to military 🤔 (Refering to 18 year olds out of HS)

[@mikanchan322]

@@sugarmilk28 once you turn 18 you're not suddenly an adult. Also, even as adults, abusing a power imbalance for a relationship is bad (imagine your boss asking you out- if you say no it could affect your job).

[@sarahstanglow1857]

Thank you for using the terms "children" and "kids" because I feel like we tend to forget that they are in fact children, not "young adults". Really clarifies the power imbalance and makes it hard for people to justify his behavior.

[@KRIZ·TEE]

16 year olds are KIDS or TEENAGERS, not CHILDREN

[@rozp2646]

i love how you always refer to them as children, it gets the point across instead of just calling them people /gen

[@tunkytunky]

She should have used the word minor. James Charles going after actual pre-pubescent children would have been the much more abhorrent situation.

[@evehuber4363]

@@tunkytunky I think most of the time you are considered a child until you are of or above the age of consent. Even then where I’m from most people are considered a child until they’re 18

[@caitlynortega1829]

@@tunkytunky I think they are children

[@anywayscolette]

they don't have the maturity of an adult. yes they are children

[@ohmydog6491]

i just want to say, as a 16 year old, the pictures of these boys look young to me. they have a baby face and i can’t even tell if they could pass as 18, not to mention 16.

[@deathsplat8620]

A lot of really disgusting people on the internet willing to take advantage of teenagers they know they have power over. Take care of yourself.

[@ohmydog6491]

@@deathsplat8620 ❤️❤️❤️ appreciate it bro :)

[@Augustowind809]

I would recommend taking your age out of this comment for general internet safety. 🤗

[@sakuranbodiru5]

The fact that he said on Jake Paul's (or the other one, honestly idk which one is which) broadcast that he likes them young...Bruh, it's doing NOTHING for you. If you say that how do you expect me to believe that you didn't know they were young?

[@eneyavorodecky]

I agree with you as a person who looked underage well into my twenties. You should ask anddo your due diligence.

[@rebeccavollmer3066]

He was making videos and "clapping back" on twitter like this was internet tea. These are crimes. When he said "the details don't matter" I screamed "those DETAILS are CRIMES!"

[@Blue.1889]

The details are going to matter if one of these kids' has decent enough parents who will try to hold him accountable in a court of law. I don't know how he could get away with this when he literally admitted to it *and* blamed kids in the *same* video.

[@CountryLuver001]

@@Blue.1889 I do. It’s called money. He can litigate until the average person going after him, runs out of money (if it’s a suit) as for a crime being committed, I’m shocked and appalled no one in the police force has done anything about this. Since I am certain even just ONE person has reported him.

[@Blue.1889]

@@CountryLuver001 Thats true. I was thinking maybe if they were kids who also lived in LA their parents might have money but we dont know the victims' locations (which is good since they're minors) and he could draw it out regardless I suppose

[@nonameshere1592]

@@CountryLuver001 true but the state can press charges to mitigate that issue.

[@madeleine7219]

I want to comment for the algorithm and make sure this video gets as much traction as possible. I am a child SA survivor and it means a lot to hear someone standing up so strongly for children and standing against victim blaming. I'm also happy to hear someone breaking down the roles society gives victims and perpetrators in these situations. You don't need to be a "good victim" and do the 'ol forgive and forget, just as society doesn't need to work so hard to give perpetrators credit and redemption. Thank you so much, Hannah.

[@kunalthapar]

desperation NEVER EVER excuses the fact that he was fully capable of talking to people his age.

[@argovoid]

TEA!

[@shirin8609]

💯

[@AnoraFan-z1v]

I agree, I’m only a year younger and I’ve always been sad about never having a boyfriend but I wouldn’t ever take advantage of a MINOR over it, that’s so despicable that he’d say that like it’s an excuse

[@Mountain444]

the funny is thing is that he was extremely CRINGE like you have 22 years old, talk like an adult pls!

[@Sara.L..]

Can we agree that if he REALLY was desperate he could have gone for a Fan of age? I can't believe that ALL of the guys in his dms are 16yrs old. He's Rich FFS he could use the rich people dating app etc. No excuse

[@carrieharlow435]

He absolutely has the resources to find someone who is a legal adult. It’s ridiculous how many times this has happened.

[@as19J01]

He's trying to gain sympathy and seem relatable. "This could have happened to you guys too"

[@annalang5687]

Half of the time looking at the bio would have been enough.

[@samanthakavanagh7034]

I’m poor and like over 200lbs, I found someone to love me. He has millions of dollars and can look like whoever he wants- surely he can find SOMEONE who is age of consent! BUUUUT ALSO in Canada age of consent is 16 for someone older than 20. So if he moved to Canada and did the same thing it would be legal. It’s crazy how different geographical locations have different laws- and people can move to suit their legal needs.....

[@Rebecca-iy6zg]

Exactly!! Like does he not have friends that can set him up with mutual ADULT friends?? It’s really not that hard to find someone your own age to date. And this is coming from someone that has never been in a relationship

[@patricasmyth4359]

I find it ironic that Tati who got caught between James Charles and Jeffrey Star is off KZbin when it appears she was right about both.

[@hannah7280]

I was about to say the same thing! Crazy how everyone bullied her for being right. I really think she was actually trying to stop him from becoming a danger to himself and to others, and everyone called her crazy and power hungry.

[@ChaoticVirgo]

She was right. It’s just the motive for exposing jc is what made it all questionable. If it wasn’t for vitamins we might’ve never gotten her bye sister video.

[@myozbubble]

@@ChaoticVirgo I think JC would have f*&%ed up sooner or later. He's a predator. Society is used to seeing predators as being 30+. But, they start a lot earlier. JC is sloppy and unable to control impulses. When Tati came out and apologized to JC and all that, I was left thinking 'but what about the allegations you said about the dinner party, etc.? Did JS & SD talk you into making that up? I don't think so. I believe her when she said these things happened in front of her. You are spot on, Melynee.

[@camillefaith2005]

Tati still has her faults, and of course the areas where she spread some half-truths, but all in all she was right.

[@Johnsmith47890]

Let’s not forget that Tati made those accusations based on the fact that she was manipulated and then she took them back and sided with James again. She’s not someone who should be hailed atm. She’s not exactly trustworthy either.

[@nicolasteelnack]

"Some things can't be forgiven. Some things shouldn't be forgiven." YES THANK YOU I feel like there's sometimes pressure to forgive someone who hurt you (or someone else) because people like to claim that being a good person means being a forgiving person, but that's just not true!!!!

[@paulrayray7596]

Just because you forgive someone doesn't mean you condone what they did, it means you're not letting them control how you feel anymore.

[@talosheeg]

The fact that he can keep getting away with this stuff just astounds me

[@chelsea_sarfo6388]

It's unbelievable that he's this self-centered to say that he's "desperate". No honey ur a predator!

[@Julie-ip3il]

I’m not surprised he is rich and a celebrity, the new aristocracy

[@Leen.G]

Ikr :/ People like him can get away with anything because they have a huge fanbase.

[@SarahJareth]

Young, rich, male and white with a large social media fan base he's pretty hard to take down

[@DLGGGGGGGGG]

He wouldn’t if he wasn’t rich and white

[@miatrevino6499]

you cannot tell me that he had absolutely no question in his mind that those boys were of age. i mean LOOK at them.

[@laurenndruryy]

This!!!!

[@talpamorales4510]

Baby faces every single one of them.

[@cupid2098]

People can look younger I will say that. But really, James is just falling down to his knees and picking up whatever excuses he has at this point.

[@leviackerman210]

Yes!!

[@christinunya72]

He knew, of course he knew. He just DIDN'T CARE.

[@juliasmith5006]

As a friend of a survivor of sa and r*pe, i hope anyone who is a survivor is taking care of themselves. I am sending love and support to all. 💕

[@madisonharrill1935]

What gets me is that people are in PRISON for the same thing he did. It’s just crazy

[@MsAntigonaki]

For much less

[@Angelalovesbubbles]

By liking and accepting Jame's apology video, thousands of people accepted an apology that wasn't even meant for them. You don't get to 'forgive' someone who never wronged you, it's just not your right to do so... my heart really goes out to all the victims

[@Amy-qe7ti]

Amen!

[@Jeloveseveryone2020]

This!

[@pca808]

I am not by all means condone what james charles allegedly did... i am here to respond to your comment i totally agree, however people have the right to support whom they want to.

[@flop3923]

hundreds of thousands the situation is dumb

[@martamaboo]

amen.

[@badmomma3723]

Dear smokey glow, I'm a teenager and I just wanted to thank you so much for educating me so much on such serious topics it really makes me feel smart and I binge watch your videos because you say stuff the way it is and it really helps me realize things that people my age don't realize on there own. Thank you EDITED: YOUR ALSO SO BEAUTIFUL AND I LOVE YOUR EYESHADOW

[@casualyoutubeenjoyer]

😭😭❤️

[@hillyforde]

This was so sweet.

[@McCammalot]

My heart

[@ilovemydobermans5143]

❤️ stay young and grow up slow. You have all the time in the world to be an adult, so love your young years, cherish them, be kind, be honest and love yourself! That’s what I always tell my niece your age!

[@themousoleum]

I'm glad you're staying informed, but please also try to enjoy being a kid for as long as you can. Know what to look out for so you can be safe, so you can have the most fun possible. 💕

[@AndrayaK119]

I really appreciate that you, Abby, and Swoop are using the terms children and boys. Words are important and it's important to note that these are CHILDREN. I didn't watch JCs video, I'm just sticking to other coverage, but this is all just diversion. He is a predator and he must be held accountable. Enough is enough.

[@saigeferko6035]

Yep, can confirm in the apology video he kept referring to them as "guys." Disgusting

[@tracy4jester]

Louder for the people in the back! That frustrated me so badly when he blamed desperation. I didn't have a boyfriend until I was 22. I waited it out to find the right person. It's👏not👏hard.

[@whatzittooya3873]

literally the most common defense on To Catch a Predator is "I didn't know"

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

Also, "They lied." "They came onto me first."

[@od3910]

Which is also darkly hilarious since the actors they use in that program look 14. How did you not know? They aren't even pretending to be older and are saying their ages honestly. It's a real bad excuse especially if it happens multiple times.

[@TaelurAlexis]

“I’m desperate, it’s hard to find a relationship with someone my age” he literally said everything Sex offenders have said

[@kiwii1027]

OR "it was a prank bro!"

[@JulesKM]

The thing that sticks out from James' apology for me is that he said he didn't realize there are issues with power imbalance when it comes to messaging his young fans. He's not messaging them for intellectual conversation because he sees them as equals. CLEARLY he's not interested in actually getting to know them or he'd have taken the time to ask about them and perhaps even read their ages on their public social media profiles. This is 100% about power and control, and you can see it in the way he speaks to them when things don't go his way. James saying that he didn't know is a bold-faced lie.

[@mariahhkate]

Especially when he used the term “flirting,” like that’s all he was doing. He really downplayed what he was doing with those boys and it pisses me off!

[@jules6626]

THIS! You’re 100% right. It’s the most twisted part of it - people with that much power are so used to being in control, they start to view others as just pawns to use/dispose of, and believe they’ll never face consequences.

[@mayfia]

Wow, I never thought about it like this

[@canaljorn]

Remember in the bye sister video when Tati called him out for his behaviour on her birthday he said to her: it doesn't matter, I'm a celebrity. He absolutely believes he can do anything because he's famous and nothing will happen to him. He's aware of that and his power.

[@r.h.1988]

Honestly, it feels like the bye sister scandal just reinforced his belief that a)he can get away with anything because of his fame and b) any scandal he might find himself in will simply blow over with enough time and PR management.

[@dh5573]

@@r.h.1988 yep. that No More Lies video was so obviously pr-managed and scripted, it's astounding how ppl actually felt it sincere. i guess he really does have a very young fan base that sees a "receipt" and think it's the key to all truth lol.

[@chloed555]

Yes! I just remembered this happened! That comment alone shows he totally recognized the power imbalance even back in 2019 and knew exactly how to exploit it.

[@georgiadoan8903]

Right!? I wish Tati could be un cancelled now. Maybe there were issues with her delivery and she shouldn’t have mentioned the vitamin thing too, but she was overall in the right and didn’t mean any harm

[@Lillithowl]

@@georgiadoan8903 I'm sorry Tati totally meant harm. She knew about it for ages and it was only when she was pissed off about the vitamin thing that she spoke out. She did't do it for noble purposes, she did it for revenge.

[@kelsey5596]

I’m SO glad someone like you is going into social work. The world needs more people like you.