PGA370 Socket Install OG XBOX Holy Grail of XBOX Mods?

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

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[@Eric2300jeep]

Good stuff man!

[@GeneralPadron]

There is no evidence that has anything to do with the burial of The Christ. And the ancient Hebrew burial ritual is much like the Egyptian's. They use many small strips of linen soaked in perfumes and oils. Not one large sheet. You are a catholic liar.

[@dawidrosinski5107]

That the price already with p3 1.4? How much only for the socket and interposter?

[@viggojensen774]

Sí Bro es demasiado costoso!!!

[@IPlayIntoGames]

Im really interested in hardware/circuit stuff, what would you recommend as a good learning activity for beginners? Genuine question Also, love your stuff

[@Soonjai]

Somehow it feels wrong to see Half-Life 2 running smoothly on the XBox. Awesome upgrade.

[@LRK-GT]

It was so smooth I was getting uncanny valley feels, myself. Mind you, I can go play HL2 @ 144fps (displayed) any time, and it doesn't look *that* smooth.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

Its crazy how badly HL2 ran. People paid a lot of money for an Xbox and the game and got this...

[@Chris-yy7qc]

@@JourG215 The framerate was never an issue for the N64, because the games where designed to run on this exact hardware. Meanwhile the xbox ran mostly ported windows games. The hardware specs on the Xbox might be superior to the N64. But the N64 was way more optimized.

[@Soonjai]

@@Chris-yy7qc I guess all that crazy optimization on the N64 was why many games had a terrible Framerate at DOS-level resolutions. Turok 2, 3 and Rage Wars rarely, if ever, hit a stable framerate, Perfect Dark was a complete Framerate Hell and GoldenEye was barely any better. Ocarina of Time runs at 20 FPS, and that´s if you are lucky enough to be in a NTSC region, PAL run at something like 17 FPS. The N64 has tons of examples for really bad running games, meanwhile the vast majority of XBox games run perfectly fine. Half-Life 2 is really a exception in the library. Yes, there are other examples like one of the Terminator games or Enter the Matrik, but that´s in their 1080i modes, at 720p and especially 480p those games run perfectly fine too.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

@@Soonjai I was talking about AAA Games made by Nintendo. If a backyard third party developer screws up, thats nothing you can blame Nintendo for. Ocarina of Time still runs way better than most XBOX Games. And the game looked awesome for its time, especially when compared to XBOX pixel graphics.

[@soulshinobi]

8:39 watching the solder wick up the socket legs was incredible.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Yea, its nice in slow-motion for sure.

[@nandutzu]

​@@RetroRenegadeRepairsIs it an infrared soldering station? I was wondering how come does the plastic cpu holder not melt?

[@sirlimonada2]

blame pfp!

[@user-if9pp4vg7g]

Sorcery thats how​@@nandutzu

[@douro20]

@@nandutzu Hot air + infrared.

[@matthiasmartin4355]

Digital Foundry brought me here. Great content and video!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@gnurken]

Me too. Please see if you can collaborate with foundry for perf testing

[@kevclark8661]

same

[@GreggyAck]

Same. Channel seems great!

[@petrsonTD]

same

[@plume...]

Half-Life 2 was completely transformed! Also, seems The Matrix is GPU bound. Great video, thanks!

[@ArtisaneSC2]

Almost looked like a double buffer vsync type issue

[@stephenr7424]

You have a very 90s style of narration to your videos. Double-dose of nostalgia, thank you!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks

[@J-STAR830]

It did seem like one of those old school videos. Just remember, use the aproved poses if you wanna be a MEMER, PEACE SIGN, BUNNY EARS, FAKE WEINER!!

[@BryanSeitz]

What... English? Not Zoomer lingo?

[@alperen194]

Bro is going to put a Ryzen 9 one day in that xbox

[@RemasteredStudios]

He needs a 100 watts to do that

[@Ronetic_]

@@RemasteredStudios have u heard of sarcasm also no shit sherlock

[@XWXS2]

and enables 4k with an build in hdmi port

[@LRK-GT]

I was wondering if a Socket 479 Pentium M or Core Solo could be made to work? I know a lot changed in regards to the FSB between Pentium 3 and Pentium M, though... Ideally, the *very* last 32-bit P6-derived single-core CPU: 2007's 65nm 1.83Ghz Celeron Embedded; Sossaman (Yonah derivative) Intel Celeron; 1.83 GHz, 1M Cache, 667Mhz FSB.

[@GamerSuper91]

Him install Intel 14

[@rezqiano]

That smug face after telling us that the balls has been cleaned tho.... 🤣

[@andrewjackson244]

It's a lie too. His are FILTHY!

[@rezqiano]

@@andrewjackson244 wait how you even know that.... you know what? I don't wanna know.

[@cromulence]

Insane. I really hope that the 256MB RAM mod can be made stable at 200MHz, or hopefully even higher. Both of these mods would open up so much on this machine. I’d imagine that whilst it’s not easy, it’d be totally possible to modify games and/or the OS to correctly utilise the extra RAM for the GPU - I imagine being able to play more games in 720p thanks to additional VRAM!

[@atranimecs]

Someone will find a way, problem is the game itself with need to be modded not just the bios

[@JoshLineberry]

I'm so looking forward to 1.4ghz and 256mb of ram just for movies and TV shows. I have a 16tb loaded full of them on my Xbox now and soon I'm pretty sure we'll be able to use up to 32tb with 256mb of ram and 1.4ghz, my God! We take ours with us on vacation and use it for gaming and media so being able to use 720p or 1080p media instead of 480p will be huge.

[@Cooe.]

​@@JoshLineberry... Why not just make a modern HTPC? O_o The OG Xbox is HUUUUUGE and heavy for god awful media center performance by modern perspective.

[@Just0zzy11B]

​@Cooe. Because it's like an IROC with an LS1 under the hood and groceries in the trunk. It's just cool man.

[@BK2Modder]

Finally, always wondered why I never saw anyone using one if the interposer designs to not just upgrade the CPU but to install a socket for future easy swaps. Really appreciate you performing this mod and documenting the process as nicely as you did!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Its really just a matter of knowing your rework machine and adjusting the temps accordingly for the type of application you're working on. Thank you for the view and it was my pleasure.

[@JoshLineberry]

​@@RetroRenegadeRepairsSo the ones you sell are socketable?

[@royhandy8365]

Legitimately one of the coolest videos I have seen on YT.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks!

[@shaneobrien5214]

Talk about an OG Xbox pro, that Tualitin chip is a game changer. Nice work, I personally hate soldering those capacitors my hands are not as steady as they once were.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

I'm sure someone will come up with a better solution in the future that is a bit easier to align. Thanks for watching!

[@AlexCatV12]

Thanks for the outstanding work, masterpiece) Especially glad to see a difference between 733/1000/1400, looks amazing

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

While IMO you won't see many games take advantage, I think the emulators and homebrew would benefit the most from these types of upgrades.

[@Mareka6969]

Very nice, I like. It makes me happy that you guys are finally showing some game play clips at the end of the install.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks. Amazingly enough, getting the game play footage together was the most time consuming part of creating the video.

[@Mareka6969]

@@RetroRenegadeRepairs yeah, I bet. But it's what people look forward to, they want to see the results, especially after watching a long install. Again, good job.

[@hugosimoes5119]

Cool! As long the CPU is properly cooled, it will never melt anything.

[@Johnny_LuvBuckets]

Thank you kekule and frank for making these interposers and making this mod easier for more people to do it.

[@CookiesDGT]

Man the patience you must have. I've wanted to try this mod, but i'm looking for a older version. i have the 1.6 right now and it runs pretty smooth so i'm just soft modding. Kudos to you for this video!

[@deus_nsf]

Please test more games! Halo CE NTSC lags hard in open areas with a lot of AI, that could be a huge improvement! This + the 720p software mod and the 128 MB + memory overclock hardware mod, let's go baby!

[@Nick_Rabbit]

Dude... you are probably one of the only people in the world that I can do this to but *bows in a very over-the-top asto royalty style* Good sir, I bestow on you the title of "Dude with a better X-Box than my own" I am fully impressed.. I had what at that point was the be-all end-all xbox... even had the ram and 1ghz cpu mod done but that was in the days prior to interposers.. apparantly theres a mod that lets you change the 8mb ram chips (via interposer) to 16mb modules as well! My old box (which was lost to a flood like 6ish years ago) was like my favorite techy toy, I even went to the effort of sourcing one of those Xecutor LCD boards that I had mounted to a little sort of ear that stood off the top right of the console that showed clock speeds, temps, and info regarded the current loaded game or whatever... I wish I still have pics.. all I have today is the little board you used to re-flash different bioses :| but, amazing work and I am glad to see there exists passion for such a wicked console, even though us enthusiasts are all old and shit now :P "Back in my days ... " ugh I hate aging >.< Peace XD

[@novafiddler1712]

There was a company that used to do this mod back when the xbox 1 was relevant. Ive never seen it performed. Very skillful

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Yea, Friendtech. I really wanted one of those consoles back in the day. Thanks for the compliments!

[@jonathanbetenbender307]

It was insanely expensive though

[@ugzz]

Also here from DF.. This is fantastic, and i've already queued up the Duke and NES vids, and I see a ton in the back catalogue that interests me! Easy sub!

[@Joostinonline]

Came here from Digital Foundry, absolutely amazing!

[@quattroclub]

The solder flowing up the pins was so satisfying lol

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Its honestly my favorite part of the install

[@userbosco]

Let the ball jokes commence.... LOL. Cool video! I wasn't aware this was even doable!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Glad you liked it!

[@silent9pc]

I've done years and years of rework/repair and quality inspections on mil/aerospace boards and I gotta say, you do some pretty clean work! One recommendation, I'd take the stencil off after you place the balls and fill in any missing ones and then do the reflow, so you don't risk ripping traces and pads if you do a reflow first before lifting the stencil 😊 Working on boards is a great skill and too many other channels on here do a terrible job at it but call themselves "pros". I dunno where you got your training at, but hell yes, great job!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thank you for the kind words. I have explored the reballing method you have described a few times, but it always results in the solder balls merging or moving. I have found if I try it with paste that is less likely to happen. So far I have yet to rip any pads with the stencil method shown in the video, but never say never as they say! Thanks again!

[@domistark]

​@@RetroRenegadeRepairsand you are a humble one good job man i don't know how to do any of this but i just bought a bunch of xbox to try it

[@ShrineOfLife]

wow! outstanding!! this performance uplift is amazing! it makes me instantly want to have one of those - the way the xbox should have been from the GET GO! thank you for showing is your outstanding craftsmanship! cheers from bavaria in southern germany

[@ResidentXombie]

Your work is amazing.

[@JerroudiYassine]

This is one of the coolest things I've seen on youtube for a while

[@LaMeGam]

Esto es jodidamente increíble. ¡Excelente trabajo.!

[@noneya96]

Awesome video Watching this felt so old school felt like early 2010s KZbin love it

[@hosie01]

Man, that's awesome. The possibilities just went higher on that thing 😁 I can't wait to see what developers come up with now that it can support a higher processor and ram

[@contytub]

i really loved the original xbox. one of the first consoles i've modded using internet tutorials and was amazing for the time. seeing it here getting some well deserved love makes me happy and brings back nice memories

[@Spartan536]

It's almost as if the OG Xbox should have been running at 1.4 Ghz the whole time, now if you upgraded the memory, graphics, and storage this thing could be something else entirely. Well done on the mod!

[@xAlexZifko]

Well yea, if you replace all the components it IS something else entirely

[@klbjr]

@@xAlexZifkoyeah it’s called a Xbox 360 😂

[@cheezyfriez12]

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[@pirateskeleton7828]

Amazing work. Despite being an electrical engineer, I only really trust myself with soldering through hole components. This was masterfully done

[@SparkMojo]

Would love to see a collab with Digital Foundry if you can ship a modded Xbox to them!

[@silverismoney]

That was neat, I used to repair them for my friends and even started messing with the RAM chips and TSOPs when I was like 15. That was some very nice ball work man.

[@mclovin2005]

I would never try this but had a lot of fun watching you do it

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks

[@January_Cold]

I loved this video! I had no idea this was possible.

[@MannElite]

The most mind blowing thing to me is the confidence this guy has doing this to an OG xbox lol

[@ChrisEbz]

Awesome work! Kept seeing over and over comments that this wouldn't happen. Well then... Nice job. Now maybe some games that can be patched with high ram along with the faster cpu power.

[@DanielCardei]

Impressive work. well done sir! 🤝

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thank you kindly!

[@SpicySpleen]

sooo cool Love to see you upgrade the ram next! make the ultimate og xbox!

[@alexrtaudio]

Dude you rule! Thank you for amazing content, much appreciated!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks

[@piratelechuck1911]

These mods are so OG! I remember when the dream-x hit the scene it was next level. Now we have 256mb memory upgrades 🤓 Makes me want to hop back onto the scene again.

[@shadowscarnage]

The games run so smooth now.

[@OneMore1UP]

Digital Foundry sent be here!

[@doctorgenesisx]

Whoa! Seeing Half-Life 2 running buttery smooth at 1.4 GHz is crazy!

[@fumbducks]

Love stuff like this man. Doing cool projects just to do them. Its why i became an engineer

[@Johan.Larsson]

Digital foundry sent me here!

[@HEADSHOTPROLOL]

Alex from DF sent me here, glad he did this is super cool and chill stuff :))

[@-PVL93-]

Digital Foundry raid, checking in

[@VIRAL_DNA]

They weren't lying when they said it wasn't possible, they of course meant it wasn't possible for "them", because they lack the cojones and skill ;) I get this sort of stuff a lot myself and have found the best way to prove them wrong is to do it, nicely done!

[@morrisdennison8039]

Don’t know if you did the ram mod yet but they have new chips that will allow you to bring your Xbox to 256 mb of ram, then do an ssd mod and the only thing left to replace is the gpu

[@ResidentXombie]

SSD is not a good idea due to TRIM. The way the SSD is configured isn’t compatible with old hardware that constantly writes on it. It will wear it out fast.

[@SomeAngryGuy1997]

​@@ResidentXombie That hasn't been true in a while. Most SSDs have it built-in.

[@ResidentXombie]

@@SomeAngryGuy1997 source?

[@mexdrago3009]

​@@ResidentXombieI keep seeing people spread that old information. lol

[@ResidentXombie]

@@mexdrago3009 source?

[@8bitnation419]

What's awesome about a Socket is the ability to revert the console back to a stock speed Pentium 3. The OG Xbox had a 733mhz Pentium 3. So if you want to run incompatible games like RalliSportChallenge or games off of discs without having to install or patch them. You can swap the faster Pentium 3 1ghz or the 1.3ghz Tualatin out with a 733mhz one, restoring the console back to stock. But this is just something I'm theorising. I could be wrong, but I would love to see this get tested. Though I'd like to see somebody make these faster CPU's work like stock CPU's to improve compatibility across the board running games without having to patch them. This reminds of the Sega Genesis/Megadrive Motorola 68000 upgrades where the games just speed up along with an increase in game incompatibility. As nice as emulation and homebrew is, the main reason to play on an OG Xbox is for its library of games.

[@touchgameplay]

LOL. The Video launched for me with 240p and i thought for an moment "Cool Retro Renegade Repairs now goes real retro with an low resolution of his Videos." Well i was wrong, the new VIdeo is still awesome. Probably KZbin and it's Buffering tricked me once again :D

[@mesicek7]

Same for me. Are you using adblocker?

[@Juice.b0xs]

same for me

[@nym7973]

This was incredibly entertaining and informative. Instant subscriber.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Appreciate that! Welcome to the channel.

[@TheCod3r]

You don't need to be covering components with aluminium or Kapton tape. All you're doing is creating extra risk of knocking components off when flux gets under the tape and causes the tape to slide around while the solder is molten

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I can attest to this happening a few times when I had first started using either tape a few years back. I imagine if I used flux for my removals we'd for sure see tons of components come off when the flux seeps through the boards.

[@TheCod3r]

@@RetroRenegadeRepairs yeah exactly. I've seen a fair few myself where people have attempted to remove components with tape everywhere and ended up with components all over the place. Then they ended up sending it off to me because they were out of their depth replacing them all

[@ap894]

lets go my dude, this is some serious throwback

[@mattliston1215]

This mod, combined with the recent release of the 256mb ram information, should really make the OG xbox one of the best old hardware gaming machines, especially with homebrew I wonder if the old bios overclocking style of the front side bus would do anything. the OG 733 can hit over 800mhz, and I have one system that technically operates closer to 825mhz, but hard hits to ram activity occasionally results in freezing. I never checked it out to see if it was due to lack of voltage, the bus speed being too high, or if the stock 200mhz ram simply hated being pushed too much faster

[@mattliston1215]

To be clear, I refer to the socket style approach, which allows the potential for server grade components to be adapted. With the socket, going beyond 2ghz is now in the realm of possible!!!!!!

[@nathancarpenter7626]

I successfully overclocked an old 733mhz pentium 3 to 952mhz. Later on I upgraded it to an actual 1000mhz cpu. And lost performance due to the 1000mhz running a slower fsb speed...😂

[@joemamr710]

Lack of 240p output automatically discounts the Xbox as a retro machine, especially hooked up to a CRT. Wish it was different, but it’s not, so the Wii still is the ultimate old retro emulation/homebrew system.

[@incandescentwithrage]

​@@joemamr710480p to 240p downscalers are a thing.

[@maneatingduck]

Your skill and confidence is amazing, with good presentation too :) Got here from DF, subscribed

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks and welcome

[@crossfire4902]

hello brother, can you do this upgrade if i send you my og xbox and the p3 1.4 cpu that i have spare to instal it? and how much is going to cost? oh and do the bios mode too because my xbox is NOT modded thanks !

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Yea, check out our website nickselectronics.com/pages/contact

[@Theseanparker]

I love watching the BGA work!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks

[@ZeeGrey1]

Just need to drop in that new 256mb kit and that xbox will be balls to the wall

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Yep

[@ar87ace]

Amazing job! The difference is so much bigger in more demanding games like Half-Life 2

[@KephTwentySix]

I love your videos, you're really skilled, still uploading this kind of content

[@fetsluck5620]

Got no idea about what you was talking about but that was cool as hell to watch. Plus you make it fun to watch. Not like the dry eyes guy Comercial lol.

[@BifareZanah]

seeing your growth as a creator is truly inspiring!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

I appreciate that!

[@TheSocialGamer]

What can anyone say but..... WOW.! HOLY SKILL..! You my friend are a legend. You had me from start to finish.

[@milsvaard]

Digital foundry recommended your channel, I subscribed.

[@joeAK7.62]

wonderful stuff, you my friend are a living legend!🍾🍾🍾

[@collegeatlas]

Your delivery is absolutely on point. Great content.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

I appreciate that!

[@areyouastarseedtommy2toes192]

Wow you make it look so easy ...the sign of a true artisan

[@techguy348]

best formatted video I have ever seen on this. Broke it down really well

[@B5s4]

This man has a skill that is so under appreciated by most. Not by me tho. If a spackler can be considered an artist then this man is Leonardo Da Vinci of soldering and all it entails. You Rock Dude!!!

[@SpikeBlighty]

Beautiful work. You are an artisan.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thank you very much!

[@littlegoobie]

This is next, next level crazy shit as far as upgrading goes. I'm super impressed. This is like the guy's who work on off road trucks and add in all kinds of non-stock junkyard parts from all different makes of vehicles and get the stuff to fit and work together.

[@KB-du3rh]

Digital Foundry squad here, awesome stuff! When those lads recommend something, you know it's gonna be good

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Welcome aboard!

[@Netbug]

You make everything look so easy.

[@kevbot5.0keller66]

Found this on complete accident. Very interesting. You make it look easy. Nice job

[@icetraex]

This is insane. Amazing work!

[@stanosherkanor8416]

You do amazing work. Thanks for sharing! Doing things I didn't think we're possible.

[@Hexauslion]

That GIANT bead of solder in the first minute gave me a heart attack when you picked it up.

[@bobeyes3284]

Never seen or heard of solder paste before. What am amazing finish.

[@Haze_E1]

nice I used to make a few bucks in highschool chucking mod chips into xboxes but this is next level love it

[@gorilla_with_jetpack4102]

This is awesome, i have no idea wtf is going on but it's super cool looking!

[@TheZiggZagg]

All of this stuff goes way over my head, but I find it fascinating to watch

[@joesaiditstrue]

Love your videos and your editing, and youre good on camera, well done

[@NBC_NCO]

I don't know anything about that stuff. But... That was really cool.

[@DCCoreDrive]

ok, finally someone who can perfectly solder up to my standards, well done sir!

[@Treejets]

What a great watch man. You deserve WAY more than the subs you have!

[@c4k3t0otz6]

and here i was thinking my splinter cell soft modded xbox was so cool. as a kid i always wanted to work in electronics, as an adult i dont think i would have ever made it but i do love tearing things apart and and trying to make them work again.

[@MasterAct2009]

very cool. I see it for the first time in this way and I am really amazed

[@dav1dbone]

Old Eddie from soldering class, he had the biggest solder balls in the business 😅

[@MisterRorschach90]

Bro you are living one of my dreams. I’ve long dreamed of buying all the gear needed to do mods like these. I could just never find a justification for it. You are awesome.

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks

[@RetroCrisis]

I love this mad science! Subbed!

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks

[@IMBJRWOLFY]

this guys videos are interetsing and fun to watch so i subscribed to see more

[@MiddleAgedAviator]

I have no idea what you just did, but I liked the vid!

[@Rad_Dad_Army]

Loved the video master at work 🙏💪

[@smcfly125]

I have no idea what you did but it was cool to watch. Thankyou

[@Diego-fc9ks]

this Video makes me want to dig out my OG Xbox, Great stuff. ( Found this Gem through DF)

[@RetroRenegadeRepairs]

Thanks for the view