Harley-Davidson Softail for 2025... Pay Attention to the Details!!

[@mheil00509]

Most people who buy a new model HD are completely brainwashed by 120+ years of history. I was the 2nd shift Quality Supervisor/Engineer at the York plant till last Nov when my position was eliminated. These are not high end motorcycles and they are definitely not worth the money. They are not American made but simply American assembled by the least skilled workforce that I’ve ever worked around. Anyone in the market would be better off buying a 2022 model or older, or simply buying from a different manufacturer. HD as you know it, no longer exists. As long as the current CEO is running things and they don’t go back to their roots, HD is poised to fail. The financial report for 4th qtr 2024 comes out Feb 5th. Considering they are halting 2nd shift assembly prior to Feb 24th, I would imagine it doesn’t look good.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's some BS they eliminated your position!! This is exactly what l have been preaching about the direction they are taking!! It's costing people their jobs, quality is suffering and they are charging more for it!!

[@leonardstanford1877]

The M8 engines has the potential to be a great engine but as it comes from the factory is worse than a late model Twincams no thanks my old FXR Rules !

[@j.t.5826]

I stopped buying harley awhile back. I decided to do Indian and never looked back. HARLEY OWNERS ARE LOYAL BUT Harley isn't. It made it worse when they turned woke.

[@rollinstone1969]

Almost all corporations are going to this. The make as much as you can today, tomorrow or 5 years from now we don’t worry about.

[@Spencerianism]

I just bought my last harley in August of last year. A used 21 sportster iron 1200 with only 800 miles on it. The last year of the sportster and I bid harley adue after this.

[@shaggyofwv]

Harley customers keep yelling “we want less expensive choices!” Harley replies: “No you don’t”.

[@mustanggrandpubah]

Price alone is going to keep me out of the Harley showrooms

[@Gordies-World]

I own a Harley and don't think I'll ever step into a Harley dealer. Not even to buy a t shirt. I hear you!

[@mustanggrandpubah]

@@Gordies-World And I own a Harley too! Even if I was interested in a '25 model, I don't think they would give me jack for my '14 Slim.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

@@mustanggrandpubah The dealership would bend you over, drop trowsers and give it to you dry with sand, on your trade in.

[@chrish5791]

The attitude Harley management has towards its customer base as well as their woke politics is more than sufficient to keep me out of their dealerships and their prices just confirm that decision. The current management of Harley has no concept of the customer always being right and they think they can force compliance to their tyrannical policies because they’re HARLEY DAVIDSON. As much as I’d hate to see stockholders lose money and employees to lose their jobs I’d love to see Harley have to file bankruptcy and their board be replaced by someone that knew what customers wanted or at least were willing to listen.

[@weezyfidelis787]

I went in there…. Now I’m broke. Nice bike though

[@defacto900]

Harley is doing exactly what all the west coast content creators wanted! And I am now watching the same people bash Harley for doing it! Absolutely ridiculous

[@chriszasada9756]

Prices are beyond ridiculous, I doubt the soft tail line will be a huge seller this year with those prices . Plenty of used bikes out that have half the prices

[@logangodofcandy]

Every other manufacturer makes a cruiser just as good

[@tomoates8568]

​@@logangodofcandy Idk about that. There's a few good competitors but HD still has the upper hand in the cruiser market. As much as I dislike how they're running their company and their inflated prices, I haven't ridden another cruiser that feels like my Harley does or that has the same kind of aftermarket support. If Indians and other companies start getting the same aftermarket support Harley does that'll be real trouble for them

[@travlincanucks]

I see the Harley dealership in Myrtle Beach has a parking lot full of 2024 bikes and I am sure there are 2023’s in there also. Good luck selling any bikes

[@RNintheTrenches]

Evo's forever!

[@jd9308]

Damn straight!

[@rogershinton7483]

@@RNintheTrenches Still riding my '94 Heritage!

[@lpd1snipe]

Evos are nice I'm still riding my 49 Panhead, Harley corporate can f off

[@RNintheTrenches]

I rember being in the showroom and checking the 94's out. An incredible bygone era of bikes.

[@jackstacey7519]

@@RNintheTrenchesThe ‘90s bikes are my favorites. Just the paint schemes alone were the best they had since the 1930s. I miss the chrome and the turquoise, absolutely hate this blacked out trend on everything.

[@larrywade9041]

I have not been to much of a harley man most of my life; however, I am now looking around for a sportster 883. I figured @ my age(73) i'd better get it in gear before I check out.Your channel has helped me out & I appreciate you/your channel. So thank you! Have a beautiful day! Cheers! Illinois, USA

[@theodavies8754]

My first HD was a new 1988 883 hugger. I couldn't live with the peanut tank range and only have one bike at a time.

[@larrywade9041]

@@theodavies8754 Hi The- I've got my sight's on a 2014 h-d sportster superlow righ now' Thanks for your response! Have a great day! Cheers!!

[@JohnnyUtah87]

Putting mag wheels and a 2 into 1 on the heritage with no chrome option is ridiculous

[@runalongnowhoney]

Black Bikes Matter

[@DesertCoyote-t5k]

Kinda high for Primer Grey.

[@turboturtle9083]

That's primer gray " clearcoat" and matt black premium finishes !

[@chrismiller9032]

riding my 2000 until the wheels fall off

[@harleyhawk7959]

same here with my 05

[@eddiebones20]

05 here and I just took it for a rip after a bath (42 degrees out). I've "replaced the wheels" (Black Bike Wheels), rebuilt motor, numerous upgrades over the years. The cost of new these days is not even close to worth it for me.

[@Rick-Williams59]

I feel the same about my '13 RG

[@h22atransplant]

My vrod lives on

[@SyThco13]

That'll probably outlive any new HD since 2010.... what time to be alive

[@jasondominguez2806]

That explains why everytime i go into the dealerships located in Illinois there showroom sales floor is totally packed. To much money.

[@astrozombie989]

I have 3 used Harleys, the total price I paid for all 3 combined is about the price of the 2025 base Street Bob. Those new prices are nuts and there are way better deals on used bikes out there, hell buy a few of them for riding options like I did.

[@GixxerFoo]

You can get a lot of bike for your money if you know where to look!

[@djtchamp5076]

Amen bro I got 4 I hear your point exactly

[@williamjohnson6517]

Absolutely agree 14 Firefighter Streetglide, 05 Deuce and a Honda 700 all way under what a new CVO would cost

[@shovel_head80]

Not worth the money they asking for

[@GixxerFoo]

It's way too much for a Softail model in my opinion.

[@Sam590ss]

Not even close. $15,000-$18,000 is fair and they're still making money.

[@jeffreysheridan5205]

Lots of love for my 22 RG Limited. It's going to be with me for the remainder of my riding time on this rock.

[@1100andFortyEight]

It’s a shame so many models have been axed since the Softail M8 lineup launched in 2018; no more Slim, Low Rider, FXDR, Deluxe, Fat Bob or Softail Standard anymore. Fifty percent less choice nowadays for thirty percent more cost 👎

[@bhuffmann]

I had a 2019 Breakout. It was a cool looking bike, but it was absolutely the most uncomfortable bike to ride on the highway. Sure, I could've put a windshield on it, but if I'm going to do that then I'm going to go with something else. I currently have a 24 Road Glide, and it's nice too, but I've had it in the shop several times to have the computer updated, which is something I've never had to do on any of my Harleys before. To me, Harley seems more interested in coming up with cool names for very average paint (whiskey fire = tomato red). I'd like Harley to start doing the little things like chroming the lower forks and and putting decent grips on their bikes if they are going to charge premium prices.

[@WyattBuckland-hc6vi]

Insane pricing for 25’ models. Dealerships throughout the country are still jammed with leftover 24’ models that won’t sell…. Now 25’ models are arriving stupid money IMO

[@scotty7663]

I've been saving for a touring model Harley Davidson all my life, it's official, I'm priced out of any possibilities for owning a new one forever.

[@ozziejim8472]

I know the feeling, just when you think ‘I’m nearly there’ you’re not.

[@Rem700R5MN]

​@@ozziejim8472keep saving you will be able to buy one cheap at the court ordered bankruptcy auction after their management gets through instituting their genius policies.

[@greatbigeye2506]

I’ve seen M8 softails for sale for $7000 here in WI. These new prices are insane.

[@kevinsmith8328]

The 103 is looking better& better. I can find a low mileage 103 Road King for 10 to 12 and call it a day in the Pacific N.W. Love your channel, G-Foo/2025.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you!!! I liked the 103 versions of every model a lot better. I can sit and stare at those, they just have a look about them. The M8 versions just aren't built like that, they are nice but they lack the little details.

[@gabbax2hey77]

With the dealer mark-UPS …forget about it. I’m done with HD.

[@markh.harris9271]

Harley-Davidson has not learned a thing. Astounding.

[@mattbroussard7409]

The prices are insane. Last week i got a 2023 Road Glide ST with 1400 miles and factory warranty for 22500. Look at the independent dealers if your in the used market!

[@kurtschroeder368]

Exactly, I bought a 23 Softail Standard last fall with 180 miles on it and 17months of warranty left for 9500 bucks at a multi brand powersports dealership.

[@okiemale1589]

😎👍 Thumbs up for the channel...

[@GixxerFoo]

Appreciate you checking out the channel and the video!

[@Chippewa-od8co]

HD raises their prices for paint and black packages significantly, while Indian added a liquid cooled engine to the Chieftain line....Hmmm

[@DonaldT-s5f]

Indian is moving forward while Harley Davidson is still looking in the past, yesterday's technology at luxurious pricing, no thanks.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I should have given Indian more credit at the start. They are playing the long game. That big bore water cooled engine is a prime example. It will carry them well into the future in markets with strict emissions regs. And just take a look at their catalogue, now. It's an impressive product lineup, to say the least.

[@Rem700R5MN]

Hate to admit it, but H-D is getting left behind.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

@ But you got an extra 3 cubic inches in some models, this year. I hope you like the colour "austerity grey", though.

[@peterjovanovski7609]

people arent going to pay that, dealerships wont sell, harley company will go out of business. 2nd hand market prices will go up. keep your current bike (if you have one) and just ride it

[@eltonwhite8490]

I don't know why anyone would even want a blacked out bike , give it a year and it will be a chipped up shitty mess

[@justins380]

That's a lot of money for base models. It does look like from the pictures that Harley finally ran out of halogen lights and put on LEDs. Also looks like they did away with the small LCD display on the Street Bob and Brake Out. I did like that display it seemed to fit those bikes.

[@zacsmith3613]

My 2021 Street glide special will probably be the last brand new bike I buy from these people. They’ve lost their minds.

[@michaelspicer1236]

It's called shrinkflation, you get less product for more money. Even McDonald's is doing it with smaller sandwiches for more money. Too bad. I'll keep my old Harley but if it comes to buying a new one I will compare the bang for buck with Indian and make a decision based on what is offered, how it's set up and what little has to be done to just have it right.

[@logangodofcandy]

It's easier for people to see a smaller price increase than a larger one.

[@waynecustis]

The harley scene was alot of fun in the evo days its all different now..

[@GixxerFoo]

Those were some great days, l would love to see it come back. Harley is acting like it never ended.

[@flamintasty]

I still haven’t seen anything from HD that makes me want to replace my 2017, 103 Twin Cam Dyna Fat Bob. I’m pretty sure this bike will be with me until I’m unable to ride. I like the fact that there aren’t that many of them on the road, cos they weren’t a big seller for HD, and there’s even less in Crushed Ice Denim. I didn’t want a boring black Harley, like a lot of other Harleys out there. But each to their own. Matt Laidlaw nailed it, in his review of the 103 Twin Cam Dyna Fat Bob. If anyone knows what’s what, it’s him.

[@georgedelarosa5437]

I’m with you. I got a ‘17 107 RK, with a stage I upgrade. Cobra NH pipes, K n N air filter and SE tuner. Plenty of get up and go for this retired old fart and his wife. Definitely my last bike.

[@scotty7663]

Agreed! 2017 Dyna Street Bob here and I love it.

[@joejohnson2447]

Love my 09 fat bob!

[@Rem700R5MN]

16 FXDF myself. Did a lot of work to make her mine. New paint this winter to finish her up. Don't think I'll ever part with her but I don't think I'll ever be totally done working on her either.

[@ericalger5003]

Harley has lost their fucking mind with the prices.

[@rogerthat1553]

I like the 2 into 1 for the purpose of mounting some bags and it's probably a pound or two lighter and don't forget the big bonus from a manufacturing stand point it makes it WAY cheaper to produce.

[@hdfxst1521]

Good grief the 2025s are hideous looking. They don’t need to worry about the prices chasing customers away, the looks do that!

[@markgilbert5118]

I “tapped out” at 20k a few years ago with a police Roadking. Sad, but I’m pretty sure it’s my last new Harley Davidson. BTW cool video👍🏻

[@Prometheus1979]

Everyone is running a 2into1 pipe these days. I’m running one myself. It made sense for Harley to follow the trends. Same with the Harley crash bars. Santoro crash bars are very popular then everyone started copying them including Harley.I definitely think the 2into1 factory pipe is a lot better looking then previous. Cut the baffle out and you have a performance pipe you can run and not be in a rush to trash the old crappy looking ones before. They also made the bags both the same size now on the low-rider-ST going with a 2into1.

[@white_devil73]

Another year of Harley not listening to their customers.

[@WishIhadapan48-64]

People complain about prices but also want the biggest engines and most tech shoved into their motorcycle 😂

[@logangodofcandy]

Every other manufacturer does FAR more for half the price or less

[@jacklukas7910]

Could you precise what you mean by Harleys most tech?

[@tomoates8568]

There's not that much tech in these bikes. I do agree about the ridiculous power figures thought, I feel like we're chasing way too much power. Cruisers just need to cruise, they should keep some lower powered options still instead of having 117 ci being the base

[@seH2i]

Thanks Gixxer. The advantage of 2 into 1 exhaust on the Lowrider & Heritage is the right side saddle bag isn't chopped off at the bottom so both have the same shape unlike previous years. Who could afford these prices? Every few years ' the older generation ' it is claimed, stops riding, can't ride, whatever. Who believes this? First, ya'll (maybe not you Gixxer, I don't know) disparaged men riding 'the girls' bike - a Sportster. I ride an Ultra Classic and a Sportster. I get shit for riding that Sportster every f'n place I go. 1. Maybe a lot of working men - "blue collar workers" and/or older guys could just afford a Sportster or ride one bc it's light but ya'll shamed us relentlessly for owning and riding one ! Who's responsible then for those potential Harley purchases going by the wayside? 2. The beloved air cooled Sportster is gone. So maybe and most likely the next affordable option was the Softail Standard which appeals to more riders than those water cooled Sportsters. Yeah, it still looks like a Harley. 3. The Softail Standard is gone now. People could afford that 2024 motorcycle at around $14,999.00. 4. Next choice- the Street Bob, still looks like a Harley. ( unlike those water cooled Sportsters ) But the price - $17,199. I watched a few channels talking about the 2025 Harley reveal with most comments about the prices - "that's not bad." And about $2,000 for black paint option - " that's not bad." WTF? Not too bad for who: The old timers who still want to ride but are dependent on Social Security income or like me a Disabled Veteran pension? Affordable for the Blue Collar worker in this high inflation economy? I remember the days WE called 'those' bikes from Japan rice burners. Well, that was one thing if you agree or not BUT then there was a shift- Harley riders turned on ' their own ' with the Sportsters are girls bikes crap. Did you hear me - you turned on your own. So let me sum up the demise of Harley Davidson; 1. You better than thou, sarcastic bagger and touring riders shaming away new riders ( blue collar workers that wanted a Harley) present riders and old timers with your Sportsters are girls bikes rhetoric. 2. Why even consider a Softail Standard or Street Bob after that treatment? 3. Harley killed the affordable price model (Softail Standard) for new riders and old timers looking to ride something that is light, looks like a Harley and was affordable. Have at it with your comments. Johan USMC BEIRUT VETERAN DISABLED SURVIVOR

[@Creeksneak24-7]

None of them are worth it anymore. Look for the prices on older scoots to keep gaining in value from here out. Everyone will be trying to scoop those up instead of paying for new garbage like this.

[@Rem700R5MN]

Maybe. I have noticed a distinct lack of grease under the fingernails of a lot of so-called bikers in the last few years. You might be surprised at how many guys won't even change their own oil. Those posers can't buy an old bike. They need to be able to drop it off at the dealer and have a Starbucks and get their vagina waxed while they wait for a courtesy shuttle to take them back to their condo. Those people are locked in until they decide they'd rather have an RV or a slot at the retirement community. I don't expect old bikes to all the sudden take off in value when there are less people every day that know how to turn wrenches on them or are willing to get dirty and learn.

[@trex860]

Thanks Gixxer. Wow, after watching this I went out to the garage and looked at my 2021 Road Glide Special in Billiard Teal with chrome everywhere and it already starting to look like a vintage bike compared to the 2025 models and trim packages.

[@jaycosta7204]

In my own opinion, H-D is asking crazy prices , not just this year, but for the past several. After you are all said and done, 50+ THOUSAND for a CVO Road Glide...That INSANE!! Lol. Don't get me wrong, some of those new colors they came out with this year are really cool, but not for 35 to 50 thousand. I'm glad they made the 2025 Fat Boy with the 117. I just wished they did a little something more for that bike, being it's 35 years old and one of the most ironic bikes in their lineup. And like I will always say...the new CEO has to go . He is ruining the company. Until then, we're just going to keep seeing bikes being WAY overpriced. Have a great one and great video 🤘🏻💯

[@workingmansdead44-ug8hl]

hahaha this very morning I got an e-mail from my local harley asking me if I would be interested in a new bike they are offering 1.49% financing with nothing down,when I was there a couple of weeks ago pickn up a part ,I was lookn at the 23 and 24 leftovers,I guess they aint moving them thats fast,hahaaha.

[@georgedelarosa5437]

I got a call from my dealership, asking if I wanted to trade in my ‘17 RK for blue book trade-in, $0 down and 0% interest. Still not enough to get to pay what they’re asking for a new bike.

[@madddog692000]

I've been getting the same emails.

[@Rob-n6k]

I'll just keep riding my old bikes

[@angelamcmillan74]

I wonder what the prices will be after all the dealer fees and taxes .

[@GixxerFoo]

Oh gosh, literally figure 2 grand for tag and tax at minimum. Then dealer fees at a bare minimum 5 to 700 bucks. That's just my guess and l am going low.

[@nhzxboi]

Lower rider S. There is so little paint on it anyway(2 fenders and a tank). $1200 for nicer color? In reality it is just a robot valve change and they paint a bunch of the parts at the same time. But this is what they do.

[@Aprojeep]

All the 2025 Softails got a complete over haul of the electrical system, got a new Gen 2 M8 engine and under the frame and covers, all the components have been moved around. I can see a slight price hike because of the engineering updates but yeah a tad bit pricey especially a couple/few years back you could have got a Road King for the price of a new FLRST.....YIKES

[@mcbrugg]

Listen to the 2nd shift supervisor's comment! NOT MADE IN AMERICA! Only assembled! Anyone paying that kind of money for looks and not performance should reevaluate why they are actually riding motorcycles.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

I love the 2 into 1 exhaust and sound. I left my 2018 Sport Glide with the 2 into 1 completely stock 107. The exhaust length was tuned, and the motor made so much doggone torque off of idle, it was perfect for cruising. Off of stop lights, you could have accidentally left it in 3rd gear, slip the clutch like normal with only a touch of throttle, and the bike would pull away without stalling. I absolutely loved the 107 it had more than enough of everything for cruising, as well as some interstate at 80 mph, however, you really needed a better fairing to ride that fast without your helmet getting the bobbles, and your neck getting cramps in a hour or so.

[@GixxerFoo]

Yeah I'm seeing the stock 2 into 1's are finally making some sense now!

[@feloniousmonk3049]

@@GixxerFoo For cruising, Blvd stop and go 45 mph speed limits and canyons to 50-55 mph, and running to Starbucks or out for a cruise and lunch, then back.... I think HD nailed it with the 103 or 107 in M8. Just don't need the HP as much as you need that torque off of idle. It's intoxicating.

[@lpd1snipe]

Harley did the same thing with the two-in-one exhaust on the 1978 FXS Lowrider. I can't count how many of those we took off in the shop back in the day put on duals.

[@joeplem5329]

Better off buying a leftover 23-24 model and saving a few $$ since dealerships are full of them 🤷

[@fatbackcrowe2448]

LOL Harley done lost their f--king minds!

[@JamesClark-wb1tp]

Guess I'll be buying a New Honda this year. You've priced me out of the market and I make a fine living. No shirts, no hats, no clothes, because I won't be setting foot in any Harley Dealership.

[@ricktyarosh7375]

I'll be turning 68 in a couple more months, I plan to keep riding my 2001 Heritage Softail Classic until I die, or until I hit a lotto, LOL

[@williamjohnson6517]

Even if I hit the lotto I personally still wouldn't buy a new one and that's being completely honest

[@rossfenneken]

My twin cam 88 makes 94hp and 95tq to the tire. Wonder what it would make on a engine dyno. Since that's how Harley Davidson advertise their horsepower.

[@jefftatum3562]

What engine work did you do to get those numbers?

[@rossfenneken]

Wiseco 10.5 pistons. S&S 585 cams. 040 head gaskets. Factory heads off a 08 with the better valves and springs. True duals. Powervision. Dyno tuned by Roeders racing.

[@ozziejim8472]

Still hanging in there with the primer look, honestly, I’m surprised.

[@kennv7566]

The devil is in Harley's prices. Everybody thinks the new bikes are overpriced.

[@harleyguy]

U should do a short documentary about the harley davidson ceo and why u think he's got to go! Love your content!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! For one he's following the same business model as Stellantis since that's working out so well for them.

[@tjmayer9103]

@@GixxerFoo 🤣 True !

[@madddog692000]

I second this!

[@BryanShawn-k6i]

Just put cams and a big bore kit on my 04 ultra. No need to go newer. If anything, my next one will be a 97 road king

[@edwardsalash2612]

Their pricing has put me out of the market, but at 70 years old and having bought a 2017 Road Glide Ultra as a retirement present to myself, it wasn't likely anyway. Also since they are running 2 into 1 exhaust the smaller saddlebag on the soft tail st doesn't make sense, not to mention looks bad.

[@madddog692000]

My 2007 Night Train will never leave me. I refuse to pay bagger prices for a Softail. To their credit, the paint is awesome, but "cool" won't make me buy new.

[@GixxerFoo]

What do you think of the two into one factory exhaust on the new 2025 Softail models? Do you love it, hate it, let us know!

[@happyness5293]

Went with a cobra 2 into 2 on my Breakout to keep the look, but on other softails 2into1 are cool..2into1 can actually sound good when shifting and provide decent power and torque.. 2 into 1 aftermarket aren't cheap. Sorry.. I see u were asking about the oem 2into1.. eh.. they don't look good..and oem probably sound muffled.. definitely would need a slip on or full aftermarket..

[@mississippidrifter5960]

Personally I hate it but my opinion doesn't matter I'm not rich enough to afford one.

[@tjmayer9103]

I don't like the look of the HD 2 into 1. I'd go with an aftermarket 2 into 1 exhaust.

[@flamintasty]

I hate 2 into 1 exhausts on Harleys. I prefer the Vance & Hines Big Shots I have on my 2017 Fat Bob. I just think Harleys look better with a 2 into 2 exhaust. But each to their own, obviously.

[@twanweijts]

I have a two into one exhaust on my softail heritage classic TC 95 from 2002 with stage 3 and I like it.

[@wilsta67]

Wow ill be keeping the ones I have no more new bikes. Those numbers are at the crank! Didnt Harley Davidson get hit with tariffs not long ago!

[@KruseProductions]

Good stuff once again, thanks. These bikes already cost too much and H-D has always designed their bikes so you have to do some modifications to run and sound good at bare minimum. Are they trying to save money on the exhaust and looking for a little extra power? Take care brother.

[@GixxerFoo]

I was wondering if going to a two into one was some sort of cost cutting and saving measure!

[@hoopscorner6458]

My local HD dealership is packed with 2024 models. Talking to the salesman they said sales in October were very bad. They keep bumping up the prices and no one is buying. Will be interesting to see how long this last.

[@larrys.3992]

I would trade the street cannon exhaust on my 2018 for the 2 into 1. Always liked the 2 into 1. My evo dresser had the heads ported, stage 2, 2 into 1 exhaust and 40 mm cv carb. It ran very sweet!

[@rwilko9525]

Think they’re expensive in the USA, You should see the prices in Australia!

[@GixxerFoo]

I have heard they are about double the US price there and in Europe 😬

[@RobertB56]

You heard right ​@@GixxerFoo

[@williamjohnson6517]

Don't forget Canada. Them poor sods are always being ripped off

[@relaxandrenew762]

@@williamjohnson6517 Not getting ripped off, getting fucked here in Canada. The low rider s in black here would be around $31000 after all the additional charges and government penalties for the crime of trying to spend your money.

[@RAbrams-k1p]

Glad I bought my softtail standard when I did. I would not want to pay $20,000+ after taxes for a street bob which is basically the same bike. Harley is just pricing people out... Ridiculous! They are doing a great job at ignoring their customer base!!

[@westcoast3595]

Nothing like true duals for sound. Two into one, I have always loved ceramic coated hooker headers for that. Kerker is pretty good too. Vance and Hines pro-pipe is good too.

[@robert-wr6md]

Grey never looked so Grey.

[@johnkenneally4662]

I have Vance and Hines 2 into 1 on my both my RG and Softail. Really like the sound and performance.

[@nickmurray721]

Happy to keep my 2020 Softail Slim! I’ll continue to upgrade and enjoy a stunning motorcycle

[@whitebeltchamp1]

With those prices, I don't think I will buy anything new. I would wait a year and pick up something slightly used and save thousands.

[@snakebite6511]

The price on all of the Harley's are getting way out of hand. I believe my 2021 Street Glide Special is the last new Harley i will buy as the prices are just not worth it anymore. This year is nothing new, new colours same bikes, nothing new. I'm 60 years old and I love my Harley's, but there is nothing new anymore, its like the designers went to sleep.

[@martincvitkovich724]

I put a 2-1 exhaust on my 2003 RKP. It not only sounded good but made it so much easier to remove when it needed to be. I would like to put 2-1 on my 04 Sportster but am running out of wrenching stamina

[@NF11119]

This will be the first year that I won’t be looking at Harley Davidson anymore unfortunately! Next year’s model should have all the bells and whistles of a bicycle for $30,000

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I bet you that the bells and whistles are in the Screamin' Eagle catalogue and not on the bike.

[@Rem700R5MN]

I gotta admit, I have eyeballed a couple Indians and even one BMW in the last year. H-D better shit can that dumbass CEO and board or they are gonna be nothing but a fond memory.

[@henrymetevia521]

Maybe my 2008 heritage classic will go back up in value. Lol . Have cobra 2 into 1 . Love them .

[@GixxerFoo]

I seriously believe the older models are going to with the price of the new bikes!

[@jzeppirc4715]

Used Corvette sounds better

[@ihatesjws669]

I think harley will struggle with those prices. They are struggling in general

[@matthewdowling8172]

Harley is going to price themselves out of business

[@GixxerFoo]

They really are, you can only make so much on every model before you have to push some volume or you're done.

[@tklrrbccar3906]

I have ONLY had Harley's since my first bike, a 1973 Superglide. Nothing but Harleys. As of now I will NEVER own another one. Harley has sold out us fans. I paid (still have the original invoice) $2695.00 out the door for my 1973 Superglide. According to the US Inflation Calculator that is equal to $19040.36 in todays money. Try and buy a Fatboy or any of the other bikes equal to the Superglide today! Not happening! Harley has lost me as well as MANY, MANY other customers.

[@Texasmayne89]

I’m holding into my 107 no matter what!

[@GixxerFoo]

It's been around a while now and a great platform to build on if you want to!

[@Streicher119]

I'd love to hear your opinion on pipes with active motorized valves like Jakel and hyde. How it should be tuned, risks, long term issues, importance of sound level with the nanny state trend, power commander tuner (switch between 2 tunes with a switch) vs flash tune, etc

[@classicuniquegifts9704]

The recent cost-cutting measures have resulted in a significant reduction in product quality. The lack of investment in graphics is evident, and the unavailability of a blacked-out motor for $17,000 is unacceptable. Furthermore, the omission of features such as the round 117 primary cover plate on the Street Bob model and the digital speedometer represents a decline in aesthetic appeal. This situation is disappointing; however, I am pleased with my 2024 Street Bob purchase, which includes the number 1 graphics, blacked-out engine, and digital speedometer.

[@gregkistner1955]

HD is gna price themselves right out business! Sheesh

[@domicam100]

I like the gauge on the street bob. I have a 21 street bob, and here in Phoenix the gauge is useless, in daylight only.

[@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644]

Went from a 2 into 2 on my 17 Breakout to a D&D 2 into 1 exhaust and love it , fits perfect and sounds great to me. Damn sticker shock though.

[@Rem700R5MN]

Fat Cat?

[@MrHasie]

Harley is a luxury brand and they’re not in the business of selling motorcycles. They’re there to be loaned, traded, and used as a tool for HD Financial Services - they’re a bank.

[@robbaar7035]

I do prefer the 2 into 1 exhaust but that's just my preference.

[@mr_superfuntime]

I got a new 24 Softail Standard and I love it, so frustrating they are pricing people out of the "Harley Experience".

[@scottsmith6932]

In my opinion, they can keep them. I’ll stick with my heritage Softail with a 103 in.³ screaming eagle engine out of a 06 fat boy

[@davidholbrook1118]

If you ask me, it looks like Harley-Davidson wants to go out of business

[@williamjohnson6517]

Ever think Harley is like the Demorat Party? 🤔Just think about all their Bullshit and it's gonna take Trump to try and fix it . WELL they have still got the WOKE CEO a German tree hugger taking the ship down with him . 😉I think they are doomed unless the whole management changes. Us Harley riders are of an age that we like our older models and can work on them .Don't need another payment or try and pay stupid prices. 🤙✊️✊️✊️🇺🇸😎

[@ronbuccelli8486]

I just bought a 2022 heritage for 15000 with 2000 miles on it. Not sure how you can justify these new bikes at these prices. There all beautiful bikes though.

[@tm-dx7vr]

Guys, I thought it was a great reveal, I bought a brand new 2006 Softail Deluxe from South East Harley in Cleveland, Ohio with a color option, it was almost 19k - 20k out the door. 19 years years later they are in the low 20k price range, with all the extra stuff, ABS, TCS, DSCS, TPAS, C-ABS, LED lights, better brakes, suspension, almost half the HP/TQ more. If they gave them away for free, people would still be complaining. Prices of everything is up, you think high end paint material and labor is free? I now own a 2002 Roadking, to make it perform like these Softails, I would need to pay for a 124 kit to be installed. You are saying only 104 or whatever horsepower, your cam/big bore videos barley make those numbers, and that would be an extra 6-8 K on top of the price I paid for the Deluxe in 2006.This year there are better bright color options and more spoke wheel options, heading in the right direction, only complaint I have is all the electronic gauge crap, but if they went back to mechanical, people would complain about that (need Apple car play on a motorcycle, more stuff to distract a rider) . Are Lamborghini/Porsche prices going down each year? I cannot afford one, but I am not complaining, someone is buying them to keep them going.

[@recklessrt]

Man towering prices. I do love the two to one exhaust systems because of the better performance. Those pipes sound great without the catalytic converter.😉

[@GixxerFoo]

It will be interesting what the slip-ons sound like on the stock headers on these bikes.

[@stevegill6218]

I'll keep my 2018 with 107 add stage 2, it's paid off

[@zilari3662]

If I had the money for a new softail I think 2024 leftover might be better with doing some upgrades for the same price😈

[@georgedelarosa5437]

Dealers are offering some good deals on old inventory. They need to make room on their floors. The dealerships are starting to look like museums. If you look around, some still have ‘22’s and 23’s.

[@stevemcc2162]

Great vid, thanks for the info 👍

[@nrgrlsd9931]

Indians 2025 release just spanked Harley.