How to connect two analog mixing consoles together

[@johnp428]

You are just absolutely amazing! We recently lost our church sound engineer, and because of all your helpful and extremely professional tutorials, I've been able to step up and assist the sound team. THANK YOU BRUNO!

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, glad the videos have been helpful. Don't be afraid to engage a local pro sound engineer in your area to train your team - they can do much more in person than I can through the internet ;)

[@jessihawkins9116]

church sound engineer?😆 don’t you mean sound room boy?

[@dennispowell7606]

Good morning Mr Bruno, how would I connect two mixers; The main mixer for house boxes and the sub-mixer for monitor boxes

[@FluteHypnosia]

Your videos are pristine. And EXTREMELY informative. I cannot thank you enough for being so detailed yet basic. Just remember, someone in Canada is always looking forward to your next instructional video. Regards,

[@GLBProductions]

+FluteHypnosia Thanks very much for getting in touch, glad the videos have been helpful. Feel free to get in touch directly if you have any questions :)

[@abcdxyz2]

This is what makes KZbin so powerful! Guys like you Bruno!

[@michelmailhiot4848]

As an amateur musicien, i have to deal mixers and in/out equipment. Siince his beginning, I regularly come back to Bruno’s video to refresh my knowledge. No one explain like him. Merci Bruno❤ hope that all these views on KZbin pay you.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Michel, and thank you for watching and supporting the channel 😊

[@tumeloruiters3233]

You're a genius. Thorough explenations, simple english, perfect video. Thanks for the knowledge

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, thanks very much for watching!

[@renesbbwi]

And I keep on learning... I have been submixing before, I never considered the 3 points you raised at the beginning; never knew about the 3 options of connecting the 2 mixers. I have learned about the 2 clicks for a balanced and unbalanced jack. You are the best! Thank you. this is the 4th video I have watched consecutively, just for the sake of learning.

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for watching Renes!

[@DovnlyOrg]

One of the best mixing videos I have seen. You are a gifted teacher!

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for watching! Glad the video was helpful.

[@Pentoute45]

One of the clearest explanations out there. And such bright articulation ! Not a single "You know", "I mean", "Uummm", "And aaaaaa" not a single time !! Thanks a thousand times for sharing crystal clear infos !

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome! thanks for watching and supporting the channel :)

[@stavrospapadimitriou7631]

Astonishing video! You actually managed to string out 2 whole minutes of information to over half-an-hour!

[@GLBProductions]

The devil is in the details my friend 😅

[@HolowatyVlogs]

I attended a fairly well-known audio school known as Metalworks Institute (offshoot of Metalworks Studios) for Audio Production & Engineering. While they employ industry professionals, this video taught me *WAY* more than that program could've. Very non-intuitive and non-engaging "hands on" lessons with multi-million SSL consoles. I applaud you sir for your in-depth and well explained tutorial. *Bravo!*

[@GLBProductions]

Great to hear from you, glad the video was helpful. It's unfortunate that a lot of people in our industry are technically very proficient but have little ability to impart those skills to others in a systematic and pedagogically sound way.

[@Duskybuka]

What an absolutely amazing and informative video this, is just what I was looking for. I have to setup a six piece band using the 2x Behringer xenyx 1002b battery operated mixers feeding 2 x AHA battery operated powered speakers. As you guessed there are no mains. This video has given me the confidence to purchase those mixers so I can do the gig! Thank you so much!

[@GLBProductions]

That's great Dusky, all the best with your gig!

[@nbulls28]

Dude thank you so much for this video. Im helping a church that has 2 Digital consoles and they are running out of channels. They have a Midas M32 and a Behringer x32. Unfortunately this consoles can not be hook up to add more channels digitally. So I had to go back to basics and refresh my memory. Your video was the best one. IM glad you never took it off. Thanks so much.

[@GLBProductions]

Glad to hear that - they must have a LOT of inputs!

[@nbulls28]

GLB Productions they almost running out. And the bad part is that the X32 doesn't allow to add another mixer for additional channels. You can only do a slave mixer for monitoring.So I'm going to do a sub mix and send it thru the auxes.

[@tommyg5095]

Simply awesome information and explained so that there is no doubt as to the message being relayed. Thank you GLB PRODUCTIONS.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, Tommy!

[@stuartthomson2159]

Hi Bruno. Having been thrust into the position of leading a band a number of years ago, following the passing of my brother, I have found your videos to be an absolutely invaluable source of information regarding mixer settings, use of DI boxes etc etc. Not only useful but extremely easy to follow. Keep up the great work Bruno, Cheers, Stuart

[@GLBProductions]

That's great news Stuart, glad to hear that you've been able to step in to your brother's role. All the best with your music!

[@MinhHoang-sh3ki]

This video is helpful. Thank you Bruno. Can you make a video, how to run a separate mixer and amps for monitors. i do not know that how i can mix/control the stage monitors when we have more instruments on stage but the main foh console has only 3 aux sends. Thanks again Bro.

[@claritywindowcare8744]

@ 26:13 was the best tip most people dont cover. was nice to see you add it in

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for watching right to the end 😄

[@kurthammond6977]

Thank you Bruno! I wish I had been watching your series years ago!

[@gpxaudio7669]

Thank you for this video - you have confirmed what I have been thinking and you have saved me some time pondering. I am going to use this to free up some channels in my mixing desk for recording......... the sketch track instruments in live room into summing mixer > summing mixer out into 2 inputs on recording desk which will be recording the drum tracks. The summing mixer can be placed with the drummer where he can use it for a head phone mix where he can control the levels. This just uses 2 channel on the recording mixer compared to 4 (Bass, guitar 1, guitar 2 and vocals) best wishes

[@GLBProductions]

Just bear in mind that if you do this you will not be able to re-balance the levels of the drumkit during mixdown. All the best with your recording!

[@gpxaudio7669]

@@GLBProductions drums will go in to main desk to Daw, the sketch guitars will be in the note pad mixer just for reference. :) thank you

[@opokuapaucharles4343]

I really really really love this ... so educative and clear... Sir I am greatful, I salute.

[@danasmith2251]

I spent probably 8 hours scouring the internet and youtube looking for an answer to my question that no one seemed to be able to do, or make clear. In one video you have answered everything, SO clearly and concise. Actually learning new things, and finding answers to questions I didn't even know how to ask. Mad respect, thank you for how knowledgable you are.

[@GLBProductions]

That's great, this is exactly why I set up the channel in the first place!

[@jaysonvillarey2047]

thank you very much Sir...a very brilliant video to watch.

[@CharlesK441]

Thanks that was a massive help. I doing a school reunion and putting together a band with old class mates. Started off quite low key but the drummer now says he is fully micing up his kit and has a mixer. So this will surely help!! Thanks a million

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome! Just be sure that the mix the drummer sends you is balanced for the room and not for his headphones and you should be fine ;)

[@JaylenBester]

this was so educational. thanks for you hard work.

[@nyalaliwitta485]

Thank you for your explanations. I'd like to know how to connect a crossover a compressor an equaliser to the same mixer and what are their effect over the sound

[@music65605]

Bruno, These videos are such a big help. Even though I normally set sound for our band, I sometimes always run into certain situations were I need help....and you are that link and professional advice found. So easily understood, and no time wasted. Thank You!

[@GLBProductions]

You're most welcome, this channel is all about helping people out. Let me know if you have any questions in future.

[@antwanfilikian128]

Thank You Very Detailed Video .

[@rudolfboukal1538]

Just what I was looking for ... and I don't think I could have had a better more patient and thorough demonstration! Thank you!! Well done!

[@GLBProductions]

You're most welcome Rudolf, glad the video was helpful :)

[@makyamrsn]

Ja ja ja... "uneexpected string quartet mariachi band .... jaja ja Saludos desde México.

[@GLBProductions]

Greetings back from Singapore!

[@briantjasink542]

I'm so glad I found this as resolve to an on stage solution to my problem. I'm doing 5 piece band on A&H 22FX via 30 metre snake... now they tell me they have hired a line dance team that wants own full contol of their music and wireless mic! So fast came to the conclusion I need to put my mini 8 channel Beringher at their on stage position... so the last topic of this video requiring ground lift via a two channel DI will do tbe trick The Beringher has balanced TRS out etc. Setting tbe gains using a spotify test tone is most helpful. Another interesting thing was using another desk for its effects coming in on the inserts. It's the lead singer that was'nt happy with the effects on the 22FX but thats probably me that needs more practise but hello I can use tbe desk tbe lead singer likes and simply plug in... awsome value gained tbrough this video. Many thanks

[@GLBProductions]

Your welcome, hope your events go well!

[@NinadPradhan]

Loved your explanation and the best part was, you were not rushing into it. A good steady pace with the correct vid. Thank you.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Ninad, thanks for watching.

[@reinikesretro]

As simple as this concept seems, this video is very thorough and explains very well the differences in connecting mains and sub boards. Nicely done!

[@GLBProductions]

Allan Reinike Thanks for watching, appreciate the comment :)

[@morganwebster6636]

Great! What a great explanation of this application. I’ve been making music for a long time and seem to be addicted to purchasing and using older 80’s mixers for my personal use but I’ve found that I’ve run out of channels. I’ve always done pretty much exactly as you’ve demonstrated but this is a great conformation with the knowledge to back it up. I really appreciate this video. Thank you.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, thanks for watching!

[@Olliemets]

Bruno, my compliments and thanks. I inherited the defacto "sound guy" role in my current band even though I'm the drummer. Normally our set ups are small but we have a gig up coming up out doors with added musicians and huge space, so I've had to engineer our set up and have latched on to your series. We normally can get away with a 1200W Mackie 808S but for this gig need to sent 2 sub mixers through it for Drums and additional inputs. Have it all mapped out but the Leader and creative driver of our group doesn't get the engineering problem. Your tutorials, particularly this one are a terrific resource (My biggest fear is incorrect gain stucture between the submixers and main mixer) and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I've got plenty of cable, adaptors, mics etc- but am picking upo a "swiss Army" knife today :-) Bless you. Regards, CO

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Chris, great to hear from you! Connecting TWO sub mixers is quite exceptional, even in professional situations - you'll definitely find that the signal generator comes in handy for setting levels! Be very sure that the mixers are all on the same power circuit and you should be fine. In cases where the tester is not with you, any pink noise or test tone app can be used instead.

[@Olliemets]

Thanks. Great explanation on ground loops as well. will get in front of that as well. These musicians.....they think this stuff is magic :-)

[@GLBProductions]

Well, a wise man once said: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke ;)

[@Olliemets]

Always an admirer or AC Clarke. Great quote. One last question- Re the Tone Generator which non mic (line Level) should it be set to- +4 or -10? Assuming Pro Plus 4 but want to be clear. Thanks again.

[@GLBProductions]

You can use either level because you are using the mixer's gain control to achieve unity gain, but I normally use +4 :)

[@markmarsh27]

it is WONDERFUL to listen to someone who REALLY knows what he is talking about. ... SUBCRIBED!

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks Mark, welcome to the channel! 😊

[@jessgayatao8687]

Very well explained! You're doing a great service to people by sharing your knowledge and expertise in live sound reinforcement.

[@GLBProductions]

Thank you Jess, I appreciate that!

[@ArlenMoulton2]

Great video, thanks! I did this a few weeks before watching your video with a Phonic MU200XP and a Phonic MU1202, I used RCA to 6.35mm cables and took the Record Output of the first mixer and then plugged it into one of the stereo input channels on the second mixer. I was doing this because the main mixer we have a school, a Soundcraft Signature 16 blew up a few weeks ago and we had a load of shows to do so using this bodge setup was the only option really.

[@GLBProductions]

Yes sometimes you just gotta do what ya gotta do 😂

[@TheBosstrainers]

Which RCA Cable did you use: male to male or male to female? Please advise.

[@ArlenMoulton2]

@@TheBosstrainers I used 6.35mm jack to male RCA

[@insan0r]

This is one of the best tutorials (generally speaking) very clear, very informative. Thank you very much, I was looking for exactly these informations.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Simon :)

[@diegostaltari]

Excellent explanation! I think it's the only video that explains this. I have two mixers . One small and one larger. But even so , when I want miking drums, the channels are not enough. So I thought in miking drums with small mixer and send that mixture to the largest mixer ; but did not know if that if he could do without running risks of damage. Your video is excellent and I think you're the only one that has explained . Greetings and thanks!

[@GLBProductions]

+Diego Staltari You're welcome, glad the video was helpful. Feel free to get in touch if you ever have questions about your particular setup.

[@scottrobinson9752]

I own a small sound company. I often use older analog gear, when specific gear is not being requested, or Im not meeting the requirements of a technical rider in a contract, and I can basically take whatever I want. I have a Peavey SRC 2400 24 channel console. I also have a Peavey MD 12 channel mixer. Peavey really anticipated the linking of consoles, and generally had really good patching facilities to make that possible. There are numerous times where I have used the 24 channel as the main console, and the MD is linked to it for additional channels...maybe for an opening act, etc... Peavey even allowed for the PFL/Solo feature to be linked via a single TRS 1/4" cable. So from the smaller MD mixer I take the Main L/R out into the Main Left/Right Aux In on the 2400. That simply sends the main signal from the MD to the Main bus on the 2400. This way you are not wasting input channels on the main mixer. The same feature applies to auxiliaries, and sub groups. This also makes calibration between mixers a bit easier , by removing the preamps that you are using on the input channels. This allows things like main graphic eqs, monitor eqs, and effects to benefit both mixers. The Peavey mixer you have there, features two stereo return busses...which route directly to your main outs. You could simply use two 1/4" cables coming out of the Mackie main outs, to the Peavey stereo return in #1. That would give you back your #1 & 2 input channels on the Peavey. Linking to busses directly together tends to give a better sound quality...using input channels can color the sound, depending on the quality of the preamps you're going through.

[@GLBProductions]

Yes I remember those old Peavey consoles, they had some truly unique and innovative features like the one you describe. It's great that you are keeping this older gear in the field - show us young guys how it used to be done 😅

[@KozmykJ]

When I had to "buddy up" two mixers I made Passive Mixing adaptors with resistors inside the jacks and XLRs. I wanted the foldback and FX sends to be parralled as well as just the main outs. The resistor values will vary depending on the mixers being used, but unbalanced mixing is often done with 20k (or even 10k) for each hot line with a 10k from hot to ground. Balanced passive mixing uses a resistor for each input hot and cold with another resistor across the hot cold line (roughly 1k for a 600R line). Sounds complicated but really it's just connecting up Y adapters with resistors in them. One some mixers, usually larger old-school types. you may have the luxury of Bus Inputs. These are desighned specifically for marrying consoles and make the job Sooo much easier. 😉

[@GLBProductions]

Were those really old consoles? Modern mixers no longer have this impedance matching issue, thank goodness!

[@KozmykJ]

@@GLBProductions I'm talking spilcing the outputs together (main out outs And sends) rather than feeding into channel strips. Saved on channels, plus enabled full use of sends on both mixers. But yes this was around 2002. I've done it with Soundcraft Studio 16-8-2 (Sends modded Pre-Fade for live), Behringer Euro32 32-8-2 and Studiomaster Gold 16-4-2

[@GLBProductions]

Oh I get it you were combining the mixer outputs - good to hear that you used a resistive network rather than simply hard-wiring the outputs together. I've seen that a lot and it can cause some really noisy problems!

[@godfreydesilva5222]

And EXTREMELY informative. I cannot thank you enough for being so detailed yet basic.

[@GLBProductions]

You're most welcome, glad the video was helpful!

[@lyjo-d4i]

how if i use snake cable to connect both mixer because i put the sub mixer on the stage, and the main mixer on FOH. should i use di box to connect them? but i dont have one

[@GLBProductions]

I have a video that shows this type of setup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH_aeqJmedmqgM0

[@richardsealy8456]

Thank you for your informative session. You said the subwoofer sits between the mixer and the amplifier but when you have a combination mixer amp how is it best to connect your powered sub?

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome - I think you're referring to the active subwoofer video yes? With mixer-amplifiers aka powered mixers you need to find a line level output to connect to the sub, for example an aux send, main output or record out.

[@mengfrank809]

wow this has been so instructive and so patient!!! no flashy content, cut-to-point and very very useful!!! thanks you!

[@GLBProductions]

You're most welcome.

[@comanchedonbushcraft8932]

you are the best teacher on KZbin period. thanks for all you do.

[@GLBProductions]

Glad the video was helpful, thank you for watching!

[@garybrown7044]

on occasion, i come up short on mic. inputs. to remedy this i grab one or more of my shure m-67. they are relatively cheap on e-bay. a short xlr cableis all thats needed .you lose only 1 mic input on your main mixer, set to mic level. the shure mixer has a built-in tone generator for setting levels. the shure has 4 inputs. if this is not sufficient. add a 2nd or 3rd m-67. they can be banked with a short rca cable. some of the old stuff works good, unless you need stereo on the sub mix. then all bets are off.

[@GLBProductions]

Great points - certainly can't complain for the price! Besides the stereo issue, another thing to bear in mind about the M67s is that they don't have phantom power.

[@leoosnaya7410]

Very educational. Very well explained with a clear tone, direct thus avoiding any confusion what so ever. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I Have watched a few of your other videos and I like the way you explain things. Best regards from Tustin, California.

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for watching Leo, appreciate your support for the channel!

[@gameon2000]

Mackie VLZ 1202 made in the 90's - my first mixer. Still rocking.

[@andrewstorie4915]

CLEAR, CONCISE INSTRUCTION. I AM GLAD i HAVE FOUND YOUR VIDEOS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE SHARING SAVING ALL OF US HOURS OF SEARCHING FOR LESSER INFORMATION. TECHNICAL BUT GENERAL ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT PROFESSIONAL SOUND PRODUCTS AND SETUPS.

[@aiseavosailagi9597]

Your video is very informative..applied your instructions as I connected two mixers together for the first time..a big thank you coming all the way from Fiji..

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Aisea, thanks for watching!

[@elwinceria8266]

Sir you have done the tone testing of channel 1 of sub mixer, how about the channel 2 3 4 and so on if i will put a source just like drums mic no need to do tone testing? Thank you sir for responding.

[@GLBProductions]

No, once the relative gain levels between the mixers are set there is no need to repeat the procedure for the other submixer channels.

[@elwinceria8266]

@@GLBProductions thank you sir.

[@beachboyal]

I thought this video would be too basic but there is some really useful information in here. Thank you!

[@FrankDeBaere]

Hi Bruno, The short video on the Facebook was recorded with my smartphone, I forgot to mention this. About the Bose L1 System. last night it was the first time I worked with this system. It sounds really great, but it needs a different approach because the boxes are behind the musicians. There was no feedback but it requires a very accurate adjustment. For example, if you give the violin a bit more volume for a solo piece to accentuate, you have to be very careful about feedback, normally there must be 6 meters between the two boxes to neutralize interference and I did not have that room. I am very inexperienced with this system (it is not mine) and it takes time to learn how to work with it. For now, I prefer the classic system because it gives you more room to work with, especially in small spaces. Nevertheless, I want to say that Bose has made something superior again with this system and it certainly deserves a worthy evaluation by engineers who have more experience than I do. The only downside is definitely the price! My LD system costs a third as much and is just as good for gigs of that size, about 250 to 300 people. That is my opinion for what it is worth. See you later. Frank

[@GLBProductions]

Yes the L1 approach is a very interesting one - the concept of placing the speakers behind the musicians is not new (the Grateful Dead used it in their wall of sound way back in 1974) but the L1s allow you to use standard microphones and still not have much in the way of feedback issues. One thing you can try next time - because the coverage from each L1 is almost 180 degrees, try placing them directly behind the band (not behind and to the side as in the video) facing straight ahead towards the audience. Then, try splitting the band in half down the middle, and just send half of the band to each L1. So, based on the picture on the website, you'd send piano, violin, left guitar and all the left side vocals to the left L1 and bass, drums, right acoustic guitar and banjo to the right L1. This will prevent interference between the two systems because each one has its own set of inputs and nothing is going to both systems. Try it and let me know how it sounds :)

[@Mortengjengedal]

Just one question. How will phantom power on the main mixer affect the main XLR outputs on the sub mixer? Or more directly, will it fry the outputs on the sub mixer?

[@GLBProductions]

It depends on the sub-mixer: most modern mixers made within the last 10-15 years should be able to tolerate this with no problems. If you are doubt, either run into the 1/4" inputs on the main mixer, or connect via a passive DI box, which will block the phantom power. Just as important: make and/or break connections with the phantom power switched off!

[@Mortengjengedal]

@ Ok. Thank you very much.

[@aifangs2661]

Can I use the rode caster pro as a main mic input for the nice quality filters then can I hook up the Roland vt-4 for a voice effect/voice changer thing???

[@GLBProductions]

I don't see any easy way to do this - I suggest you write to Rode and ask for their advice directly. If it were me I would connect my mic to the VT-4 first and then connect the output of the VT-4 to the Rodecaster.

[@aifangs2661]

GLB Productions ok I will try that thank you

[@orencioperez9120]

Thanks for the great video , had to subscribe , so I have a Mackie DL 1608 with just RT and LEFT XLR output , when connecting to another mixer Channel 1 and 2 line in I get distortion but if I go to channel 7/8 right and left its ok just the volume is a lot lower , any help thanks

[@GLBProductions]

Hi there Orencio, is the signal going Mackie -> other mixer or other mixer -> Mackie?

[@alexvelasquez3024]

If each mixer had an effects processor, could you use the sub mixer for the vocals and, let's say, add delay on them. Then send their signal (via the main out connectors like you show) thru to channel 1 and 2 of the main mixer. Then use the main mixer to add reverb to the vocals running thru channels 1 and 2...therefore running multi effects just to the vocals. Also both mixers have a multi band graphic EQ. So I would leave the sub mixer alone and just use the EQ of the main mixer? I'm basically using the mixers together just to give me more inputs and was wanting to use two effects on the vocals without having to buy a dual effects processor.

[@GLBProductions]

Sure you could do that, the only issue being that the you would have the same amount of delay on all of the vocals when it hits the reverb on the main mixer - this might not work if you wanted to make a clear distinction between say the main and backing vocals. Yes leave the EQ on the sub mixer flat unless you want to apply the same EQ to all of the channels there, for example say they were all keyboards or all backing vocals.

[@jiffy59]

Very thorough and very informative you put it into plain English which is great that should help anyone looking to mixers together enjoy your videos

[@GLBProductions]

+jeremiah french Thanks for watching!

[@Brando5858]

Hello sir, is it possible to put guitar compressor between your Mackie ang peavy? Let say the mackie is for instruments and the peavy is for vocals, microphone

[@GLBProductions]

Yes you can do that, as long as you are able to match the input and output levels on the compressor to prevent distortion.

[@Brando5858]

@@GLBProductions thank you Sir,. Thank You. God Bless🙏

[@earnestamisi705]

my sound has realy improved when i started watching your videos

[@GLBProductions]

That's great, my videos are all about getting better sound for everyone!

[@direk12]

please help me out on these things, in setting up P.A. system. After the mixer which comes first, is it a crossover, an amp, EQ, compressor gate limiter or FX such as delays & reverbs..i'll be very thankful for your patience to teach us the proper connections.

[@GLBProductions]

As a general guide it should be mixer -> EQ -> crossover -> amplifiers. Compressors & FX are connected via the insert points on the mixer - I have videos on these topics.

[@direk12]

you are so considerate thanks very much!

[@GLBProductions]

You're most welcome.

[@direk12]

Hello again, i have 2 EV EKX 15" passive speakers @ 8ohms...my question is how will i connect these 2 speakers to make it into 4ohms...inputs are only speakon no TRS inputs thanks for your time.

[@GLBProductions]

Just daisy chain them using the speakons: amp to the first speaker using the first speakon, out from the second speakon into the second speaker. Voila - 4 ohms!

[@keiannschyler]

what if we don't have a test tone generator? what is the next best possible thing to do?

[@GLBProductions]

You can download a test tone generator app onto your phone and use that as a signal source.

[@klauswhitedreamer]

great video, thank you, I have learned new things - I already performed some concerts in the past where I had to connect another little mixer to my main powered mixer - in my case I used the THE MAIN OUT channels from the little mixer to the input on THE TAPE channels on my main mixer and I had no problems - they were near each other on the same table and I have used a special cable for this kind of connection , directly made from the factory ... probably it is not the best solution, for sure - and your video made more clear all these ! ... :) thank you very much once again , be bleseed ! ... :)

[@canselier]

Hi Bruno, for those who don’t have access to a test tone, what would be the best way to adjust the levels?

[@GLBProductions]

I suggest downloading a free test tone app onto your phone - they are easy to use and provide the same thing in software format.

[@davidleungaxiom3491]

If the sub-mixer does not have line/mix selection, can I use a passive DI box to convert a line level to mic level ?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes, or simply connect to a line-level input on the main mixer.

[@davidleungaxiom3491]

@@GLBProductions thanks, if the two mixers are far far apart, I guess I need a DI box. Right ?

[@GLBProductions]

If the connection between the mixers is balanced no DI box is needed.

[@davidleungaxiom3491]

Thanks

[@katbaluglog2303]

Hello, I have a question. Is it still possible to connect the submixer using just 1 XLR cable to the main mixer? And if so, would I have to change certain settings on the submixer like pan, etc?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes you can - this is not a problem if all your inputs to the sub-mixer are mono, just keep all your pan controls at the center position. If you have stereo inputs on the sub-mixer this method is not suitable as only one side of these inputs will be captured.

[@carlotheatheist]

I have a question. Can i use the mono output of the mixer going to active subwoofer? Was mono volume control are the same in stereo L/R main mix output?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes you can. On some mixers there is a separate mono output level control, one the rest the level just tracks the main LR levels.

[@jimle22]

I heard somewhere if you have a mono signal coming into your main mixer on one channel you can have it panned in the middle but if you pan all the way left or right (depending on what channel is input) you will gain 3db of signal. Is this true?

[@GLBProductions]

Not really - most modern mixers have what they call 'constant loudness' panning which attenuates the two sides of a signal being sent to a stereo bus by 3dB when the channel is panned center, to avoid the signal getting louder and then softer when you pan from left to right. I suspect that the person you read inferred from this that you can get 3dB of extra gain by NOT panning the signal center, but this doesn't work out in practice - the pan control is not a gain knob 😉 Having said that, this theory is very easy to test.

[@emlitpantonial]

I'm glad I found this another video about 2 mixer connected to each other. I plan to use our yamaha mg16xu as sub mixer for my drum mics and connect it to main board alto live 2404 with a distance around 40ft using snake wires with xlr input/output, because our senior pastor wants to have more vocal microphones for the future. I will put the yamaha mixer beside to the drum kit so that I can mix on my own preference. Question, is it okay to plug an auxiliary send from the main board ALTO to sub mixer YAMAHA for IEM system (for me as the drummer) knowingly I'll use the sub mix for my drum mics? Or I'll just use another mixer intentionally for my own IEM system? I am a volunteer in our church and we don't have a sound engineer available. I just learn from my experiences for 12yrs (I started serving thru music since 12 yrs. old). And I'm the one who is also responsible for the mixing and taking care of all the instruments and sound system equipment. Hope you'll recognize my concern. Thank you GLB and God Bless!

[@GLBProductions]

Hi Emlit 😀 You can do this, but you have to make sure that you do not create a feedback loop between the two mixers: the channel that the Alto mixer connects to on the Yamaha must NOT be routed back to the Alto.

[@tomasbilek4339]

Hi once again, I would have a question about the use of DI box / transforming the line from unbalanced to balanced. Is it possible to use DI box (or other techique) for making the transformation sort of vice-versa? That means using the balanced line from the sub-mixer up until the DI box and before reaching the main mixer switching to very short unbalanced line and plugging into an unbalanced channel input. I am asking because the reason for adding a sub-mixer is often when one used up all microphone/balanced channels on the main mixer and only left with free line level unbalanced inputs ....well at least this is my case and my submixer is about 10m away from the main and I would like to somehow avoid using unbalanced connection :-D.

[@GLBProductions]

In this case I would simply use a balanced connection: XLR F or TRS from the output of the sub mixer and TRS into a line input on the main mixer. You can also use XLR to TRS adapters as needed to convert a normal mic cable. The reason I suggest using the DI box is that when the mixers are widely separated they tend to be on different electrical circuits and the DI box provides an excellent way to prevent noise due to ground loops.

[@Uncaught_in_promise]

I have yamaha mx12/6 (older) and yamaha mg16xu (more modern). Both have XLR main output. So should I use XLR or TRS to link submixer to main mixer? Does it matter which channel to choose to receive from submixer? I presume I plug two XLR into main output on submixer and plug in into any XLR microphone input on main mixer.

[@GLBProductions]

I would use TRS to TRS or XLR to TRS - it is best to connect the line level output of the sub mixer to a line level input on the main mixer.

[@Uncaught_in_promise]

@@GLBProductions XLR to TRS. I used to think that XLR gives better signal. So should TRS be balanced?

[@GLBProductions]

XLR and balanced TRS are electrically identical, although XLR is a much more reliable connection. In this application TRS gives a balanced connection, yes.

[@Uncaught_in_promise]

@@GLBProductions thanx a lot!!!

[@blakkberry5309]

can you please demonstrate how to conect the same peavey console with scarllet 2i2 with dbx 266xl compressor............please

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for the suggestion! There more info about connecting a compressor here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH3JaZ2OfNl5btk

[@samarthgrover1996]

would a battery powered active DI (or a regular active DI w phantom) work for this purpose as well?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes they would work but a passive DI is better in my experience due to the galvanic isolation provided by the transformer, especially if the mixers are on different electrical circuits.

[@samarthgrover1996]

@@GLBProductions thanks for clearing that up. Exactly what I wanted to know

[@GloryNature]

Can you please also show us how the connections between FOH mixer and monitor mixer are set ? ..

[@GLBProductions]

Chris Glory That depends on whether you are using an external splitter or one built into the monitor console. What monitor and FOH consoles are you using?

[@yasamichaelnelp.7754]

What is the number of limit of connecting mixers unto the main mixer?

[@GLBProductions]

This is limited only by the number of available channels on the main mixer.

[@ceosendirian9135]

You sir, a true lifesaver! Subscribed. The best teacher anybody could ask for. Thank you again boss!

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, thanks for watching. If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions Every little bit helps!

[@pietrofrenguelli1114]

For a balanced connection you suggest using an adapter 1/4" balanced male to XLR. Wouldn't a 1/4" balanced cable be OK as well?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes that would work fine but TRS to TRS cables are relatively rare in the world of live sound ;)

[@edcustodio2930]

I thought i attended a seminar pro audio.great! Many thanks.

[@hemanthajayasinghe6229]

Very well explained. Hats off to your knowledge which explains with very clear technical details n slow vocals expression is appreciated. Thanks dear.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Hemantha, glad the video was helpful!

[@hemanthajayasinghe6229]

Thanks glb production. My pleasure.

[@todaysbibleteaching546]

I need to connect a wireless receiver between to mixers. one mixer will be connected to the computer to live stream (sub mixer) than the wireless receiver would need to be plugged into the xlr using an xlr splitter or why adapter the other end of the adapter would be plugged into the main mixer as it is the main mixer that controls all of the speakers. my question is will the splitter or y adapter work allowing the wireless receiver to be used with both mixers?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes just split the output signal using an XLR Y-cable it will work fine.

[@stevecarey5640]

Hi Bruno When i connect my two analogue mixers Together Yamaha MG 12 Fx and a Yamaha MG10 UXF i only get the level indicator showing on the main mixer MG12 not the Sub, should it show on both? Tganks Steve

[@GLBProductions]

Yes, you should be able to see the output levels on the MG10 and the input and output levels on the MG12. If you can't see anything on the MG10 meters one of the PFL buttons might be pressed.

[@stevecarey5640]

@GLBProductions Thats what i thought but def no PFL on either are pressed I also tried swapping the main and sub around still no levels?

[@GLBProductions]

In that case I suggest you contact Yamaha directly and see if they can help.

[@ftadummy]

The is one of the best educational video that I have seen on youtube. Great job and many thanks.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, thanks for watching!

[@oluwakayodeajibike5783]

A very big thank you for this video, this is of great help for me. Sir, in a situation whereby i have run out of channels on my main mixer and also i want to send additional audio out to the auditorium, can the two process be done on the same mixers simultaneously

[@GLBProductions]

Yes, as long as you have additional outputs available on the main mixer.

[@elwinceria8266]

Sir for test tone what would be the setting of tone level sir? Thank you for responding😘

[@GLBProductions]

The exact level of the test tone is not critical, as long as it is somewhere between mic and line level.

[@elwinceria8266]

@@GLBProductions thank you sir From where are you sir?i like the way you deliver your explanation💪

[@GLBProductions]

@@elwinceria8266 Singapore :)

[@rozcelabueg1909]

Indeed you are the MixMaster. Excellent tutorial. Well done and thank you!

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome, thanks for watching Rozcel!

[@alexchubbymclynn6060]

Once again - millions of thanks, Bruno! Most useful video as usual! Thanks and regards from Russia!

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome Alex, happy new year and have a great 2021!

[@KoayChooChin]

another question would be if i want to break ground loop within mixer and powered studio monitor, should i use a DI or isolator such as radial IceCube™ IC-1 ? DI seem make my monitor sound lower.

[@GLBProductions]

+Koay Choo Chin First of all try plugging both the mixer and studio monitors into the same power socket. If there is still noise your issue is not a ground loop, it may be caused by a computer power supply or noise from lighting ballast/dimmers.

[@KoayChooChin]

+GLB Productions I am using FA06 keyboard and a Komplete Audio 6 audio interface as mixer, yamaha hs7 powered studio monitor. I using a PC. A few approaches i have tried. Due to i only have 1 mono DI, so i tried on mono. All power source take from same power extension. buzz = my definition : light electric sound on and off. 1)keyboard -> HS7 (buzz) (I do unplug my pc, devices , turn off light, left only keyboard and speaker connected on the power extension) 2)keyboard -> DI -> HS7 (buzz) , switch the ground lift switch (no buzz) 3)audio interface -> HS7 (buzz) 3)audio interface -> DI -> HS7 (buzz) , switch the ground lift switch (no buzz) 3)keyboard -> audio interface -> DI -> HS7 (buzz) (I tried this option is to to verified if i only purchase 1 DI put it to the end of the mixer, would it solve the problem or not?) Due to i am in the middle of purchase DI and mixer, seriously appreciate any professional advice from you. Please help me correct the assumption i made if is wrong. So, my personally conclusion after testing and studies : 1)I need multi DI to all my keyboard which connect to mixer. 2)DI is not suitable for mixer output to studio monitor. I need to use something like isolator radial icecube or radial pro iso so that i would not turn my signal to mic level when it reach my studio monitor. 3) I need to get large mixer with enough xlr input in order for me to connect from all my DI. If I want to stick with compact mixer, I can only use active DI connect to line input. I do understand passive DI more suitable for keyboard, i do see product such as behringer di800 support keyboard, so i assume active DI do ok for keyboard right ? Thanks

[@GLBProductions]

+Koay Choo Chin Ok it sounds to me like there are three possible sources for the noise in your situation: 1) The AC power in your studio or possibly the lighting ballast. 2) The power supply of your keyboard 3) The power supply of your computer Have you tried plugging into a different power circuit? Try and run an extension cable from a socket that is on a different phase - see if it improves the noise. Your power socket should have a label like B03 - try a socket that has different letter at the front.

[@TheLatinBlast]

Great video!.. How do you link up the Monitor signals of both mixers...that is, so that whatever Mon in the Mackie comes out through the Peavy Mon main output?

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for watching! I'm going to do a video on this soon, but in summary you connect a second channel from the sub mixer to the main mixer that carries just the monitor signal, and send that the appropriate aux send of the main mixer.

[@csrader]

Your videos are great. Very useful, easy to understand, and relevant. Thank you for taking the time to do these videos.

[@GLBProductions]

+Scott Rader You're most welcome. If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions?ty=h Every little bit helps!

[@jalensmith315]

Will I have to hook a dj mixer to the main mixer the same way thru channel one and channel 2

[@tonywilliams8426]

brilliant video! You clearly know your stuff and take great pains not to rush the viewer. I have learning issues and enjoyed it immensely. Unlike many 'pros' you don't ASSUME any superior knowledge level. Subscribed to your wonderful channel & 11/10 & 5*s. More please!

[@GLBProductions]

Thanks for watching Tony :)

[@tonyborzumato8510]

The reason I use a sub mixer is, my Yamaha MG16 has no effects loops on each channel, so I use my Samson MDR1064 for any channels that need to be processed.

[@Get2DeeChoppa]

Great video. Very informative. I just ordered the cable tester on Amazon. The make was Behringer. Maybe they got bought out.

[@GLBProductions]

You're welcome 😊 Yes the cable tester in the video has finally been discontinued. That Behringer unit is an unlicensed copy - buy at your own risk! Remember that any test tone/pink noise generator can be used - you can even use an app on your phone.

[@morep5466]

Beautifully explained. Cleared doubts regarding connections. Very very informative. Thanks a lot for valuable information.

[@GLBProductions]

You're most welcome.

[@BurtonBoyz715]

Forever....excellent and always thorough..... World Class..Tutorials .............Thanks Bruno...

[@GLBProductions]

+William Earney You're welcome, thanks for watching!

[@emilioleroy]

Hello, nice video, thanks for your explanations ! Some questions please : -1) What means "pfl" ? - 2) I am a drummer and use a mixer Yamaha MG12 XU as a sub mixer for my drums to a Soundcraft Ui16 as a main mixer, what is the best system for putting them together : XLR or Jack (balanced or unbalanced ?) at the STEREO OUT Yamaha ? XLR or Jack (balanced or unbalanced) for the INPUTS Soundcraft ? Thanks for your answer, musically, Emilio L. (France).

[@GLBProductions]

Hello Emilio, nice to hear from you 😊 PFL = Pre-Fade/Fader Listen In your case, I would go XLR out of the Yamaha and TRS (balanced quarter-inch) into the Soundcraft - this will keep a balanced, line-level connection all the way. Set the gain on the Soundcraft to minimum to start with and adjust from there.

[@emilioleroy]

@@GLBProductions Ok, thanks very much for your answer ! Another question : ok for the out of my Yamaha with the 2 XLR, but for the main mixer, do I have to really use 2 TRS balanced or unbalanced ? Strange because the line-in of the main mixer are not stereo (combo XLR/TRS), like the XLR are unbalanced, no ? So it also means that I have to use 2 cables ?

[@GLBProductions]

Yes, ideally use two cables - one is ok but you will not get stereo. The combo connector on the first eight channels of the Ui16 has a balanced TRS connector in the centre of the XLR.

[@stuartround7761]

hello can you use both sets of monitors channels on each desk when you connect the two ?Much appreciated if you could help thanks Stu

[@GLBProductions]

Stuart Round Yes and no :) With two mixers connected as shown in the video you can use the aux outputs from the sub mixer as normal monitor sends but none of the channels on the main mixer would be able to be routed to those mixes. Basically the connection from the sub mixer to the main mixer is one way. If you have musicians who for some reason only need to hear inputs that are on the sub mixer this could work, but typically it doesn't work out that way. Hope that helps.

[@sportjunk70]

A massive thank you, your videos are so informative, and explained things clearly and concisely, also excellent lighting and camera work with no awkward shadows. I have inherited an older Soundcraft EFX8 to mix for a banjolele play-out group, CV19 permitting..

[@GLBProductions]

You're very welcome, all the best for your music!

[@zackmessick2145]

How can I set a small 12 channel mixer like the one in this video through a channel on the floor? Our drum set has 4 mics that are plugged into the small mixer. how do I connect the small mixer into one channel through the floor into the main mix. I know this isn't ideal but its all we have for now.

[@GLBProductions]

This video should answer your question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH_aeqJmedmqgM0

[@mackybolena7070]

hi glb im mark from phillipines ..😁 my question is .what is the proper connection of DI box ?? guitar + di box + mixer?? or guitar + guitar amp + di box + mixer?? because some member of the band.. used their amps coming from their guitar then hook to main mixer .. which of this is proper connection ?? im hoping you notified my comment /questio . tnk u glb 😊😊😊

[@GLBProductions]

Hi Mark, both of these methods can work fine - as the sound engineer it's up to you to decide which method to use. Take a look at this video, it will explain what the differences are: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn-4aaadd8ilgrM

[@mackybolena7070]

@@GLBProductions thank u

[@BIGBEATS275]

Hey there. I want to use my analog mixers with my Pro Tools LE. I have an M Audio Mobile Pre audio interface and a Behringer SL 3242 FX Pro mixer. What equipment do I need to make this combination work? Thank you.