Is Tyrion Actually a Targaryen?

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Is Tyrion actually-
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0:00 Intro
0:35 Sponsor
2:11 Prelude
4:45 Phenotype
6:27 Dragons & Dreams
7:47 Tywin
9:21 Joanna
11:20 PheNOType
13:23 Dragoffs & Dreams
16:03 Tywin't
18:11 Joannaren't
20:54 Explaining the Anomaly
23:21 Conclusion
24:36 Outro

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@alexturlais8558
@alexturlais8558 2 жыл бұрын
Ned Stark is a secret Targaryen. When he looked at the pigeon, he warged into it, flew it to essos, and became one of Danys dragons.
@dylanbell268
@dylanbell268 2 жыл бұрын
No no no, he warged a maister and narrated civ 6, it is known
@LaputanMachad
@LaputanMachad 2 жыл бұрын
Deepest lore
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
Only pigeon may pay for life.
@Overused_Toothbrush
@Overused_Toothbrush 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanbell268 it is known
@chrismitchell457
@chrismitchell457 2 жыл бұрын
I seen it
@magiv4205
@magiv4205 2 жыл бұрын
"No, he isn't." *likes immediately*
@mariam-ft9sx
@mariam-ft9sx 2 жыл бұрын
Literally me
@FunZies.
@FunZies. 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? I saw the title and thought, "Really, Glidus?" Shame on me, I should have known better. XD
@AdenaKaiba
@AdenaKaiba 2 жыл бұрын
I just did the same thing XD
@keelobrown4991
@keelobrown4991 2 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@jacob4920
@jacob4920 Жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of the most TIRESOME theories ever to come out of this book series! And I honestly do not know why so many fans buy into this crap, other than they have developed some kind of obsession with Tyrion Lannister, probably based on his portrayal in the show, and nothing else. Unlike "R+L=J," this theory has very little in the way of "evidence," and has almost no discussion within the books themselves.
@magiv4205
@magiv4205 2 жыл бұрын
"Because Brienne is obsessed with Renly and only men ride Renly, Brienne must therefore be a man." My SIDES.
@johnnygreenface4195
@johnnygreenface4195 2 жыл бұрын
For real
@angelalovell5669
@angelalovell5669 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, delightful. THIS is the flawed logic example that should be placed before Philosophy 101 students. Representation
@onlinefool9931
@onlinefool9931 2 жыл бұрын
logic 101
@CHLOCHLOLP
@CHLOCHLOLP 2 жыл бұрын
shit sent me
@heathercalun4919
@heathercalun4919 Жыл бұрын
Love your avatar. The meme has run its course, but I never got tired of it. Unfortunately, it's only become more relevant since the height of "This is Fine"s popularity.
@jdc6274
@jdc6274 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the Kings Treasury went belly-up during Robert's reign is because, unlike Aerys, Robert refused to be sponsored by Raid: Shadow legends.
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 2 жыл бұрын
Should've been sponsored by James Bissonette
@sihollett
@sihollett 2 жыл бұрын
Stannis however really wanted their gold, so raided with shadows to become the legend who took Storms End.
@fattyjaybird7505
@fattyjaybird7505 2 жыл бұрын
Sneeky sneeky
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
@@sihollett Stannis the mannis Baratheon one true king titles titles
@jacob4920
@jacob4920 Жыл бұрын
It's honestly one of the greatest subtle deviations, into an advertisement, mid-video, that I've ever heard from anyone! I DID NOT see it coming! It completely ambushed me, from the blindside, which is something that ad-deviations on KZbin have never been able to accomplish in the past! I think Glidus actually needs to win some kind of award for this, because it's no small accomplishment.
@viinaart
@viinaart 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, why WOULDN'T Tyrion like dragons? Dragons are cool as shit
@minnumseerrund
@minnumseerrund 2 жыл бұрын
My nephew likes dinosaurs. Obviously, he must be a secret Goldblum.
@MrSilvUr
@MrSilvUr 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrion loves dragons because as a kid he was a powerless outcast and the dragons in his books were the guns he wished he could turn on his family.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 2 жыл бұрын
Right
@TecTitan
@TecTitan 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like I wouldn't be as hyped about dragons as I am if I had been born in a world where crazy people ride them into battle against each other. Civil war w/ dragons and nobody's on our side.
@miketrujillo3677
@miketrujillo3677 2 жыл бұрын
You must be a targ
@Seth_M-T
@Seth_M-T 2 жыл бұрын
The Twyin-Tyrion relationship is the most tragic conflict in the entire story. To pointlessly undermine that would be a sin.
@kevincarter2020
@kevincarter2020 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it undermines anything
@yosephbuitrago897
@yosephbuitrago897 2 жыл бұрын
kevincarter2020 of course it does. It gets rid of the fact that Tyrion is Tyson’s son. Tyrion is the one Lannister who is most like Tywin in his cunning. Tywin hates Tyrion and says he isn’t his son, but in truth Tyrion is the most like Tywin. If anything Tyrion is Tywin’s true son. Getting rid of Tyrion being Tywin’s son gets rid of all of that
@unclegumbald989
@unclegumbald989 2 жыл бұрын
Charles Dance is just... the human equivalent of **chef's kiss**
@Impractical0
@Impractical0 2 жыл бұрын
@@yosephbuitrago897 But that works in tandem with the idea of heirs of the houses adopting traits, instead of being born with them. Tyrion would have been exactly like Jaime if he was born normally, so it would make sense he would adopt his supposed father's mind for warfare and economics rather than melee combat. The same applies to Jon as well, if R+L=J does happen, Jon would have adopted Neds traits instead of the traits of his actual father.
@Black_pearl_adrift
@Black_pearl_adrift 2 жыл бұрын
@@yosephbuitrago897 I wanna agree... but Tyrion being most like Tywin could be more dramatic story telling (although not automatically). The themes at play would mean that even Tywin's true borns that he put all his faith and hope of legacy in were just as monstrous in the sight of the westerosi public as the incestuous twins.
@camilo9192
@camilo9192 2 жыл бұрын
but Glimbus, you magnificent connoisseur, everyone is a secret Targaryen. even the champions in Raid (TM)
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria 2 жыл бұрын
I think dragons are cool, and therefore I am a Targaryen.
@arkarosh7043
@arkarosh7043 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlatinumAltaria You are a Targaryen, You are a Targaryen and You are a Targaryen. You know the rest xD
@db7213
@db7213 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a Targaryen, except Young Griff.
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын
If the Targaryen fanboys and fangirls had their way, there would be at least 20 secret Targaryens.
@heathercalun4919
@heathercalun4919 2 жыл бұрын
It comes back to the fundamental question of how many fucking gods are actually in this universe. And I don't know if there is a clean answer, nor do I think there should be. I'm okay with the idea that the facts don't add up. But on a spiritual sense, I still can't shake the idea that Tyrion's unusual appearance is tied to the Targaryens in some way, shape or form. Is that vague and could be using any prophecy to confirm it? Sure. That's how everything in the books works, sometimes even after a mystery is given a concrete "correct" answer. It's vague and is an ingenious way to keep the fan forums grinding. But it doesn't feel tacky, because this is kind of how religion IRL works. I'm like half way through the video now. It still seems heavily foreshadowed, even if it was a red herring. I think a fair compromise theory would be "On a subconscious level, maybe Tyrion was always fascinated with dragons, because he aspired to be Targaryen, because being the bastard of a king, even the mad king, was preferable to accepting that his biological father never loved him and never will. Genetic traits that can be traded for mana points aside, the more Tyrion feels rejected by the world, the more he embraced a spiral of self loathing but was justifying it through a sense of superiority???" in which case that would be a rather Targaryen trait. Everyone wants to be a secret Targaryen. Everyone wants to dream of dragons.
@akaErma
@akaErma 2 жыл бұрын
"He was ill and he died. He died, of illness." THIS is the razor sharp insight I come to glinpai for.
@creatrixZBD
@creatrixZBD Жыл бұрын
Killed By Death
@Cobalt360Degrees
@Cobalt360Degrees 2 жыл бұрын
There's something so sad about the idea that the only way Rhaella had the power to protect her friend from the grossness of her husband was to send her away, possibly never speaking to or seeing her again, and then hearing she died in childbirth.
@benl2140
@benl2140 2 жыл бұрын
Glidus: new video Me: You are my son. Glidus: RAID Shadow Legends... Me: You are an ill-made, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust, and low cunning.
@Neolazaro91
@Neolazaro91 2 жыл бұрын
''The real Targaryens are the friends we made along the way''
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
The real Targaryens are the people we burnt along the way
@rosgill6
@rosgill6 2 жыл бұрын
Glidus, your brutal honesty is matched only by your humor and sneaky ad placement
@jackrackham3406
@jackrackham3406 2 жыл бұрын
What really sealed the deal for me re: Tyroin not being a secret Targywargy is the fact that Tywin ABSOLUTELY would have had him killed if he had ANY proof that the Dinks wasn't his kid. You don't need the legal proof that he's an actual bastard to disinherit him, he can just have a "hunting accident".
@kyle857
@kyle857 2 жыл бұрын
Except he was super in love with his wife and maybe he couldn't stand the idea of killing the last part of her. Tywin admits that he already thinks Tyrion isn't his. He says he just can't prove it.
@galacticguardian2783
@galacticguardian2783 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyle857 you'd think that too if you were tywin and your son, that your wife died giving birth to, turns out to be a dwarf. Plus tywin was never the sentimental type
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyle857 Tyrion, a debauched dwarf being the last part of Joanna left is the ultimate insult to Tywin. He would have murdered Tyrion if he had even a shred of evidence Tyr wasn’t his. He genuinely believes Tyrion is responsible for murdering his wife. He also states he is a Lannister. He wouldn’t say that if he had even a shred of actual reason to believe he wasn’t
@guccifer764
@guccifer764 Жыл бұрын
@burneraccount And you would think that Tywin, one of the smartest men in the Kingdom, who, as hand of the king, would have access to some pretty detailed records of the King’s coming and goings, would find an iota of evidence. Then there’s the fact that Aerys supposed rape of Johanna is only ever recorded in the World of Ice and Fire world book, which canonically also exists in-universe. The fact that Tywin doesn’t seem to take that as any sort of meaningful evidence means that we should probably disregard it as well.
@kekero540
@kekero540 2 жыл бұрын
I think George initially planned Tyrion to be a Targaryen but later decided it would be much more interesting if he wasn’t. (He does this a lot.)
@brigittehuber9745
@brigittehuber9745 Жыл бұрын
Also agree. Jon Dany and Tyrion are super cinvinient as the three heads of the dragon, but it's very likely the plan changed when young Griff became a more important character. It even fits better for the prophecy with Euron being the "water" as Dany's problem to solve, Tyrion as the "Lion's heart" being the pain in Griff's ass and Jon being left with the last part to deal with.
@omegaRST
@omegaRST Жыл бұрын
yeah the theory makes a lot of sense but I agree that it would be more GRRM to keep it as the tragic story of a man who hated his trueborn son for displaying all the negative features that he wanted to hide
@BeggarsNight
@BeggarsNight Жыл бұрын
He did kinda point out in the video that no indication of him being a targ exists in available drafts.
@wutzibu
@wutzibu 5 ай бұрын
​@@brigittehuber9745that moment as a non native English speaker where you see a Typo and have to Google if that's just a rare word you've never read before 😂. "Cinvenient"
@carlhiller9659
@carlhiller9659 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Edmures mother also die while giving birth to him? Edmure is a Targaryen as well it seems.
@whale6069
@whale6069 2 жыл бұрын
Brienne too. Plus her hair, Targaryen confirmed 100%
@sertorrhenclegane
@sertorrhenclegane 2 жыл бұрын
No, actually, she died giving birth to a son who supposedly died...He didn't. Because he's the secret Targaryen.
@MissJoy16
@MissJoy16 Жыл бұрын
My great grandma died giving birth to my grandpa, therefore I, too, am part Targaryen.
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Women in westeros should not become pregnant
@NunofyaFB
@NunofyaFB 2 жыл бұрын
No, he’s a time travelling fetus
@jherm123
@jherm123 2 жыл бұрын
Fetus Tyrion is Targ
@extraplain2412
@extraplain2412 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more likely Jaime and Cersei are actually the mad kings. Tyrion being Tywins only actual child is gold.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
That would be the peak of irony, and both Robert and Tywin would be rolling in their graves!
@sertorrhenclegane
@sertorrhenclegane Жыл бұрын
The timeline doesn't sync up with that theory, in my opinion. Joanna was sent away shortly after her wedding and the twins were born four years after said wedding. Any sort of visit to Casterly Rock by the king would've certainly made it into the royal records (see: Funeral of Tytos Lannister). I'm not saying it's impossible, merely why I don't ascribe to said theory.
@noahmclaughlin7921
@noahmclaughlin7921 Жыл бұрын
That definitely isn’t the case but it could explain how Jaime and Cersei are supposed to be drop dead gorgeous despite also being inbred, while Tyrion is incredibly ugly.
@RenegadeShepard69
@RenegadeShepard69 Жыл бұрын
@@noahmclaughlin7921 The Lannisters didn't practice as much inbreeding as the targs, Joanna wasn't that close to Tywin genetically. Plus, in GRRM's world, inbreeding doesn't make people disfigured freaks like irl, Daenerys should've been a Habsburg monster instead she and her eldest bro were some of the prettiest targs ever. Tyrion is only ugly because of his condition. But it would be such a sweet ironic twist if the Targs had barely ever left the Throne, with Joffrey and Tommen being half-targaryen. But it would be a dumb twist and pretty boring too.
@i.cs.zamodits
@i.cs.zamodits Ай бұрын
​@@RenegadeShepard69 Even in real life inbreadind doesn't equal disfigurement. Maria Antonia of Austria was the most inbred habsburg and she was avarage (as in real avarage, no Hollywood avarage) tbh.
@pritiyou
@pritiyou 2 жыл бұрын
15:57 "because brienne is obsessed with renly, and only men ride renly, brienne must therefore be a man" 😭💀
@shrimp3rjr413
@shrimp3rjr413 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to rewatch this video for the next 1-3 months until the next one comes out.
@sonny8686
@sonny8686 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is literally me
@Tallimme
@Tallimme 2 жыл бұрын
Classic.
@unclegumbald989
@unclegumbald989 2 жыл бұрын
Ooof, shots fired! (Actually, I totally forgot about this channel for like a year so I had some stuff to watch... envy me.)
@erenrathe4293
@erenrathe4293 2 жыл бұрын
@@unclegumbald989 so did I
@creatrixZBD
@creatrixZBD Жыл бұрын
Stil here, one year on, lol. Good content is good content :)
@nealfirstofhisname
@nealfirstofhisname 2 жыл бұрын
Tywin to Jaime: "You are not my son. You say you are Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Very well, ser. Go do your duty." Which is always overlooked when people use Tywin telling Tyrion he isn't is son as evidence.
@jaimelannister1797
@jaimelannister1797 2 жыл бұрын
This obviously just means that Jaime and Tyrion are BOTH secret Targaryens
@nealfirstofhisname
@nealfirstofhisname 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaimelannister1797 How could I have been so blind.
@anti-mate407
@anti-mate407 2 жыл бұрын
+Jaime Lannister when the man himself says it what else can we say
@awaywiththefaeries9464
@awaywiththefaeries9464 2 жыл бұрын
Cersei is also not Tywin’s son.
@nealfirstofhisname
@nealfirstofhisname 2 жыл бұрын
@@awaywiththefaeries9464 I suppose you think that was terribly clever.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 2 жыл бұрын
"Tyrion loves dragons and is an expert on them." So I guess hundreds of KZbinrs are secret Targaryeans.
@riftvallance2087
@riftvallance2087 2 жыл бұрын
I mean wouldn't that ruin the thematic beats of the Lanester siblings. I thought each one inherited a characteristic from Tywin. Jamie got his combat prowess, Tyrion his intellect, And Cerci his ruthlessness.
@tebo9334
@tebo9334 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotinvolved1309 it would be a lot better if the two children he loved weren't his.Tyrion begin a targ ruins their relationship. But I dislike both ideas.
@NeeNee_B.
@NeeNee_B. 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotinvolved1309 they ARE blood still, Joanna was a Lannister too
@kevincarter2020
@kevincarter2020 2 жыл бұрын
You could argue Jaime and cercei have more Targaryen traits and they bang each other
@nealfirstofhisname
@nealfirstofhisname 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrion ordered Bronn to kill a singer and put his body in stew for the masses of King's Landing, he murdered Shae who didn't defend herself while he strangled her and he killed his father on the toilet. Tyrion is far more ruthless than Cersei.
@tebo9334
@tebo9334 2 жыл бұрын
@@nealfirstofhisname not really. Cersei murdered children, killed lady, and whips a boy to teach tommen a lesson. She also threatened to rip someone's eye out as a girl and pushed her friend into a well. She killed ned and dragged his name through the mud and loved thinking about how she gave Robert no children. This is what I remember off the top of my head. Tyrion is not nearly as ruthless.
@brettadkins4968
@brettadkins4968 Жыл бұрын
Could Tywin hate his trueborn son this much? Samwell Tarly: "Yes, yes he could"
@TetraDax
@TetraDax 2 жыл бұрын
This theory annoys the shit out of my because it devalues the entire story of Tyrion and Tywin, two of the best damn characters of the series, the best portrayed relationship of the entire series. The relationship between himself and his father is Tyrions motiviation for everything he does during the first 4 seasons of the show and basically the entirety of the books.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right.
@AshenTheSad
@AshenTheSad 2 жыл бұрын
"Is Tyrion Actually a Targaryen?" oh no. oh no don't do this too me- starts the video. Phew thank god Glidus has not lost his mind....YET
@magnuspeacock5857
@magnuspeacock5857 2 жыл бұрын
Yet...
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let him drink the water.
@petrnovak6879
@petrnovak6879 2 жыл бұрын
It is that crazy? People are sure that Oberyn poisoned Tywin, but get mad with Tyrion theory?
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrnovak6879 It's not a matter of logistics. There's enough ambiguity that there's like a 10% to 20% chance that Tyrion is a Targaryen, if you're just going off what the story tells us. But in terms of the way GRRM writes and structures a story, you can tell there is absolutely no chance of it whatsoever. It completely undermines the tragedy of Tyrion's story and the conflict and hypocrisy within Tywin. All it does is remove depth and emotional complexity for a gotcha reveal which ultimately impacts nothing on the world. Tell me, what's more sad, that one day your mum gets with someone new, they move into your house and they're mean to you all the time? Or, from the day you were born your actual father, who by every rule of society should be kinder to you than anyone save your mother, wants you to suffer and die a horrible death just because of something you could not control? And then again, what's more powerful? Killing your dickhead stepdad or murdering your own father, who should have loved you? And before someone reading this says it could impact the world because Tyrion will become the third dragon rider and Jon, Dany and Tyrion will be the dream team trio that runs off to defeat the zombies and save the world, you clearly can't tell the difference between Season 8 level fan fiction and GRRM's work. Tyrion's whole story is about being someone the world tried to cast aside, but in reality he drastically effects everything from the supposed sidelines. In other words, he's a 'small man that casts a large shadow'. He's the human conflict at the heart of the fantastical one. Moqorro sees a vision of Tyrion in his flames, a small man with a large shadow snarling in the midst of dragons (and krakens I think, so Tyrion will have some impact on Euron's story). This fits with what it seems he's likely to do. He's already unleashed one 'dragon' army on Westeros. He's about to unleash another. And his story will likely interact with Jon's again someday (when he already has played a major role in shaping Jon's worldview). Another dragon.
@AshenTheSad
@AshenTheSad 2 жыл бұрын
@@wafflingmean4477 yes
@doghat1619
@doghat1619 2 жыл бұрын
I think the ad was well done, was entertaining enough I didn't skip it. Hope the sponsor approves of the ad and you get that money fam.
@angelalovell5669
@angelalovell5669 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded. I actually considered downloading it for the first time ever, and I've been exposed to 47000000 RSL ads previously.
@marinuswillett6147
@marinuswillett6147 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I actually enjoyed a Raid Shadow Legends ad. More youtubers should do it like he does it. The part where he says "yes, this is really happening," killed me.
@Glidus
@Glidus 2 жыл бұрын
aww thanks :) they always approve of ads before publishing btw!
@iamfictionarts925
@iamfictionarts925 2 жыл бұрын
the transition was smoooth
@bipstymcbipste5641
@bipstymcbipste5641 2 жыл бұрын
@@marinuswillett6147 You should watch Internet Historians' Raid ads
@cheangizzz
@cheangizzz 2 жыл бұрын
"Because Brienne is obsessed with Renly and only men ride Renly, Brienne therefore must be a man" He did it, the *Darkstar* theme 11:36 + Preston's "at best" 18:50 Good job gildus you give me pj content even when he's not making any
@skepticalrebekah
@skepticalrebekah 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrion is a red herring. Heteropaternal superfecundation explains how Jaime is Tywin’s, and Cersei is the Mad King’s.
@alext8229
@alext8229 2 жыл бұрын
B-b-but... Jaime is Azor Ahai!
@skepticalrebekah
@skepticalrebekah 2 жыл бұрын
@@alext8229 Tywin can’t be the father of Azor?
@Corvaric
@Corvaric 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... I never considered that, but now...
@skepticalrebekah
@skepticalrebekah 2 жыл бұрын
@@Corvaric Yeah, once I thought it, I couldn’t unthink it. Sometimes I wonder if it would make their twincest less creepy since they’d only be half siblings, but nope, still weird af, lol
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
@@alext8229 maybe we Azor Ahai isn't a person is a concept Maybe we are all Azor Ahai
@merilum
@merilum 2 жыл бұрын
the transition into the ad was amazing lol "yes this is actually happening"
@joannac.3782
@joannac.3782 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrion is the son of Tywin. He just is. Tywin is tremendously proud (lion-like), so this misformed product of his loins (that killed his wife) is a public shame to him. George is doing a thing. One thing not discussed in the show at all and may not get any mention in the books, but what would Ned have done if Jon had purple eyes and silver-blonde hair? Ned gets away with saying Jon is his bastard because he looks like a Stark (dark hair and grey eyes), much to Cat's chagrin.
@marinuswillett6147
@marinuswillett6147 2 жыл бұрын
"George is doing a thing." 10 out of 10 brilliant line. You are a genius.
@JC-kl3uc
@JC-kl3uc 2 жыл бұрын
@@marinuswillett6147 I mean I always suspected something, but this opened my eyes.
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I reckon as soon as news reached Robert, he would arrange to 'visit' under the guise of catching up, having a tourney and so on. I reckon Ned would have called Benjen down and had Jon cared for by the Night's Watch. It's not the first time they've taken in infants. The issue is then Robert would have marched North to 'see the Wall'. But if Jon was promised to the Watch, legally there isn't much that could be done. And Robert has no way to bargain to make a Night's Watch brother an assassin. They've already sworn their lives away. The main issue would be that people would *absolutely* try to kidnap Jon before Robert could assassinate him. Varys and Baelish would be all over that. They might even succeed. If Varys got him, Jon would likely have been set up as another puppet for Varys and Illyrio, used to make war on Westeros to weaken it, allowing Young Griff to take the throne. Although, it might actually be better to organise a fake assassination of Jon. If anything could cause a war between Ned and Robert, it would be Ned thinking Robert tried to kill his son.
@hollylucianta6711
@hollylucianta6711 2 жыл бұрын
"What would Ned have done if Jon had purple eyes and silver-blonde hair?" The fan theory is that this is why the rumor of Ashara Dayne being Jon's mother was spread about Westeros--so that if Jon did turn out to have Valyrian features, people would assume it was because of her genetics rather than Rhaegar's.
@dylanbell268
@dylanbell268 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollylucianta6711 honestly I like that idea. It’s funny to think Ned, the honor bound intrigue stunted man helped spread multiple rumors about his nephews parents just in case he had different physical features.
@ClaireYunFarronXIII
@ClaireYunFarronXIII 2 жыл бұрын
The way the story of Tywin and Aerys transitioned into the sponsor is so beautifully done. I nod my head in approval. 😅
@thehermitman822
@thehermitman822 2 жыл бұрын
Probably best to get it over with at the beginning too. Most ppl would like it at the end to skip and in the middle is the most annoying.
@guccifer764
@guccifer764 Жыл бұрын
@@thehermitman822 The thing is most KZbinrs don’t really have much of a say where their ads go. The contracts can be pretty specific about that sort of thing. Most ad companies know that most viewers are more likely to skip the ad if it’s at the end, and that’s completely counter to their business model.
@thehermitman822
@thehermitman822 Жыл бұрын
@@guccifer764 Most ppl are going to skip an ad unless they are just playing vids as background noise to begin with. That would make ads most viable in the middle since at the start someone might readily skip ahead and at the end someone might stop what they are doing to skip to another vid. Even though an ad might survive best in the middle of a vid it can also be more easily ignored by ppl just using the vid as background noise.
@dantedare2797
@dantedare2797 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very niche take, but one thing I hate about this theory is the idea that Tywins hatred couldn't possibily be JUST motivated by grief and/or, more pressingly, ableism. As a disabled person who runs in circles w other disabled people, I've met so many people who don't even require care from their parents who still experience disgust or anger from family. Thats not even mentioning the real world death count among disabled people, especially babies and childre, who were killed for being 'burdensome' or 'wrong'. 'All dwarves are bastards in their fathers eyes' was a really poignant quote that I felt personally attatched too in many ways, and seeing people diminish its meaning just kinda sucks.
@gamemaster2311
@gamemaster2311 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's part of it. But wouldn't it be far more GRRMy if Tywin's true hatred manifested because Tyrion is a twisted version of himself? Sure, I think Tyrion being a dwarf is the icing on the cake so to speak, but it goes much deeper than that. Tyrion and is more like Tywin than anyone in the entire Lannister family. He represents all of Tywin's deepest insecurities and he reflects Tywin's inner self hatred. Human heart in conflict with itself you could say.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamemaster2311 Two good comments here.
@kaisermccheese6486
@kaisermccheese6486 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamemaster2311 "Tyrion is Tywin's son"
@kaisermccheese6486
@kaisermccheese6486 2 жыл бұрын
@Thyme and Oregano ASOIAF doesn't play in to modern politics lol, and people think Tyrions going down a dark path because he is, with Penny and raping prostitutes and just being a dickhead. As a stannis fan i haven't seen any ableism but i'm sorry if you yourself has had to deal with it. But Tyrion will most likely be a bad influence on Dany and she probably will be the mad queen, Sorry but no happy endings, just a bittersweet one
@gamemaster2311
@gamemaster2311 2 жыл бұрын
@Thyme and Oregano What are you talking about
@BiggestCorvid
@BiggestCorvid 2 жыл бұрын
11:37 the Darkstar's bass riff is good, but have you heard about the rogue prince 🎸?
@BLooDCoMPleX
@BLooDCoMPleX 2 жыл бұрын
It makes so much more thematic sense for Tyrion to be Tywin's only child and instead Jaime and Cersei to be "secret Targaryens", if that had to happen. I feel like people concocted this because they worked backwards from the conclusion that their favorite characters were all super special mary sues, meanwhile missing the entire point of Tyrion and Tywin's tragic storyline.
@kahare9565
@kahare9565 2 жыл бұрын
While I think that might take Genna’s comments too literally I do think this is more likely. Cersei is quite mad on many days, and runs her life based on prophecy (even if it’s Maggie’s prophecy not dragon dreams). Randomly incesting your twin is pretty abnormal all told but there does seem to be a certain amount of Targ incest pressure that might be partially ‘genetic’ (not that it works that way irl).
@thehermitman822
@thehermitman822 2 жыл бұрын
Its fun to think that all the approval Tywin did give was to cuck kids while the true heir was despised.
@BLooDCoMPleX
@BLooDCoMPleX Жыл бұрын
@burneraccount Sure, it's possible that there were such ideas early on, but nothing solid stands out to point me in that direction. If this was a cliche fantasy story with cool magical "good guys", then this theory wouldn't bother me so much, but this isn't what ASoIaF is, that's not what GRRM writes. Nobody in this story is special. Even Jon with his alluded Targaryen heritage is not special. People wanting their favorite character to tick the box of their favorite character trait doesn't make a good theory, it displays a complete misunderstanding of the text's purpose. And it's not fucking Proust we're talking about here, it's fairly simple to get what George is trying to do. He even says it out loud, "Heart in conflict". The real red herring in the story is all this magic heritage bullshit.
@gregnagy7569
@gregnagy7569 Жыл бұрын
Which is why Tyrion is a Targ.....
@user-mm6tb9mb7n
@user-mm6tb9mb7n Жыл бұрын
I hate this theory, but I think it's true. Or at least, Martin planned to make Tyrion a Targaryen at the beginning of the story, but then abandoned that idea. (The same way he abandoned idea of making Arya and Jon a couple). All this talk about dragon having three heads, I'm having a hard time thinking who's the trird
@millenialmonster
@millenialmonster 2 жыл бұрын
Glidus is the Winds of Winter we deserve.
@BattyButtercup
@BattyButtercup 2 жыл бұрын
/slides over "Aerys desired TYWIN, not Joanna" theory, and whether that's in a gay way or a "generally selfish, entitled monarch" way is irrelevant.
@drartemisa21
@drartemisa21 2 жыл бұрын
this makes the most sense.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely my favourite theory so far!
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that drove him mad because he wanted to know the man under the armor
@AGuyCalledHarry
@AGuyCalledHarry 2 жыл бұрын
Someone get this man the sub count he deserves.
@Tom-lg9ee
@Tom-lg9ee 2 жыл бұрын
But Sudilg, clearly Cat manipulated Joanna into having Arys' baby as part of her master plan to send Jon Snow to the wall so that he could be sacrificed to facilitate the apotheosis of Preston Jacobs into a Lord of Change.
@TheSlammurai
@TheSlammurai 2 жыл бұрын
"No, he isn't" Understandable. Have a nice day.
@porphyon
@porphyon 2 жыл бұрын
barely noticed the transition, very immersive ad
@wanderinghobo4917
@wanderinghobo4917 2 жыл бұрын
The "undertaker threw mankind" copypasta got you a new sub.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 2 жыл бұрын
Let's look at a more likely use for Tyrion's knowledge of dragons that actually has some precedent. At the point of the book, Dany still has little control over her dragons. She rides where Drogon takes her. What's one of Tyrion's earliest actions in the books? He designed a saddle for Bran. He'll probably combine that knowledge with his dragon knowledge (and what additional info on them he finds in Essos) to design and saddle and harness for Dany.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this would be so badass!
@sine-spike
@sine-spike 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the first three words that popped into my head when I saw the title was “No, he isn’t.” And I hadn’t even started the video yet.
@anastasialovesoranges
@anastasialovesoranges 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Glidus I’m a bit depressed at the moment so I’ll watch your video some other time and then rewatch it like 273 times as I usually do. Anyways here’s my comment for the algorithm luv u byeee
@stefanfilipovits21
@stefanfilipovits21 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you get well soon. Hang in there.
@anastasialovesoranges
@anastasialovesoranges 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanfilipovits21 I’m getting help, so I hope so too. It just was a rough day. Thank you for the kind words :)
@paulg5507
@paulg5507 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the friends we made along the way are a secret Targaryen
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the secret Targaryens are we burnt along the way
@Seth_M-T
@Seth_M-T 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Now I have something to watch whilst I play Raid: Shadow Legends!
@lordsemen489
@lordsemen489 2 жыл бұрын
9:34 Putting Ned's face on that line is so well made 😂😂😂
@Haedox
@Haedox 2 жыл бұрын
love you gligar, and i will install raid shadow legends just for you
@Glidus
@Glidus 2 жыл бұрын
live your truth baby
@lalilulelolol4780
@lalilulelolol4780 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glidus But, like, having my own truth sounds hard and like, you have to do things. Mental things. Can I just have your truth pls?
@sirocco2810
@sirocco2810 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a pokemon ?
@maxmalten7749
@maxmalten7749 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirocco2810 it is yeah
@Buford_T_Justice1
@Buford_T_Justice1 2 жыл бұрын
If Tyrion is a Targaryen it ruins the incredibly interesting relationship with Tywin.
@kyle857
@kyle857 2 жыл бұрын
Not at all. It kind of explains it.
@galacticguardian2783
@galacticguardian2783 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyle857 yeah explaining it is how it ruins the relationship by making it far less interesting
@Raine749
@Raine749 4 ай бұрын
@@kyle857because Tywin’s hatred for his son couldn’t possibly be motivated by him being a twisted reflection of himself,in his point of view killing the love of his wife,ableism?
@kingemilia_
@kingemilia_ 2 жыл бұрын
GLIDUS you’ve done it again!!!
@Tallimme
@Tallimme 2 жыл бұрын
What a pleasant surprise on Friday afternoon. Thank you, this cheered me up!
@ChrisVillagomez
@ChrisVillagomez 7 ай бұрын
While I don't think Tyrion is a Targaryen, I do like the theory that both Tywin AND Aerys are Tyrion's father. There's a really rare condition, called Chimaerism I believe, which is when 2 different men's sperm fuse together in the womb and form into a child with both fathers and the mother. It usually results in heterochromia, which is 2 different colored eyes but I'm not sure if it just results in blue and brown eyes or if it can be any combination of colors in real life. I don't think Aerys is actually Tyrion's dad over Tywin, but rather that when he screwed Joanna during her tenure as a royal handmaid, his sperm fused with Tywin's already-formed cell baby and changed it into Tyrion. It would explain Tyrion's ability to touch Rhaegal and Visaerion seemingly without any Valyrian blood
@MrFirextinguisher
@MrFirextinguisher 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl big dog when I heard that raid ad I thought maybe Tyrion could be a targ
@texmechs5757
@texmechs5757 2 жыл бұрын
The, "Tyrion is a Targaryen," theory is so dumb and lazy. It's like bad fan fiction. I've also heard people say that Tyrion is all ugly and fucked up and so were many Targaryen babies so that makes him a Targaryen. That stand point completely ignores that Tyrion looks peculiar yes, but ill made Targaryen babies had wings and tails and scales and shit. They were beyond saving and deformed to the extreme. Tyrion has weird hair and different colored eyes. Different colored eyes can actually happen. It's not that strange.
@petrnovak6879
@petrnovak6879 2 жыл бұрын
Its not THAT dumb People theorize About so many things in books and 98% is more crazy than this
@texmechs5757
@texmechs5757 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrnovak6879 oh I know. I was binging Order of The Green Hand for a while. Lots of great theories over there and even some really solid ones that I think will play out in the books. Like Jon is the son of Ned Stark and Ashara Dayne and how stupid it is for him to be a Targaryen when the whole book series sets up him being a Stark. But Tyrion being a Targaryen is pretty far out there. Tyrion is his father's son. He's basically Tywin if Tywin had feelings but Tywin doesn't waste his time with bullshit female stuff like feelings. Feelings and severe emotions are OK for kids and women but not for men and Tywin just takes it too far. To me Tyrion has always been the more realistic side of Tywin. The kind of Twyin we want to hang out with and ruin an IHOP with. Edit: I just had a great thought on how awesome it would be to ruin an IHOP with Peter Dinklage.
@popcornhead6294
@popcornhead6294 2 жыл бұрын
@@texmechs5757 "Feelings are ok for kids and women but not for men" oof hope you work through that shit man.
@rylace
@rylace Жыл бұрын
@@popcornhead6294 Oof hope you work through learning to read between the lines and comprehend sarcasm.
@splinchc4525
@splinchc4525 2 жыл бұрын
Liked after the first sentence, pmsl. Glidus your videos are my favourites, i rewatch your entire GoT catalogue every time the crushing weight of reality becomes too much 😂 thank you for all the hard work and deep belly laughs
@kevrov7008
@kevrov7008 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen some impressive segways into an ad, but this has to be the smoothest one ever! Love your videos, love that aussie humor and attitude (hiiiiighly assuming you're Aussie tho), and please keep them coming!
@L_Brick_Studios
@L_Brick_Studios 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I'm gonna give you a pass for the ad bc I laughed my ass off when I realised what was happening and how you cleverly slotted it in the video
@scarletamazon3455
@scarletamazon3455 2 жыл бұрын
Plus Glidus getting sponsored would mean more videos for us- win win!
@davidesguario9729
@davidesguario9729 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrion’s black eye may just be the result of a enlarged pupil. Bowie exhibited the same feature as a result of trauma and that led people mistakenly assume that he had eyes of different color.
@battlemaster1719
@battlemaster1719 2 жыл бұрын
You earned a like on the first second of the video. But then I had to remove said like just so I could like again when you mentioned the Tirion Fordring. Amazing
@BooN877
@BooN877 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrion rolling over on the wall and nearly falling off still makes me hold my breath even in such a short clip I've already seen.
@limbobilbo8743
@limbobilbo8743 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt tyrion being a targ completely destroy “no i am you wright small” one of the most impactful lines? Why would grrm ruin one of his powerful lines.
@PedroKrick
@PedroKrick 2 жыл бұрын
"The interesting thing is that he isn't, and yet people still think he is" Phew, thanks glinus, almost unsubscribed
@lyannastark3839
@lyannastark3839 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, Glidus! How I love your funny discussions, they make my day. Thank you.
@TheKieselstein
@TheKieselstein 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Glidus your videos are epic keep up the good work
@thepredator9002
@thepredator9002 2 жыл бұрын
Here we go again. Gods I live tin foil
@goofymode8205
@goofymode8205 2 жыл бұрын
This thumbnail is so 2016 that it is nostalgic
@Glidus
@Glidus 2 жыл бұрын
just tryna relive the glory days
@YellowAbsolve
@YellowAbsolve 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t change my mind, but that was a dang good video.huzzah, my dude!
@marghelback1
@marghelback1 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel - really like your theories
@stephenchambers5659
@stephenchambers5659 2 жыл бұрын
"sounds like a guy who just didn't care what people thought and he's just living his truth" based Aerys
@DwRockett
@DwRockett 2 жыл бұрын
18:51 ok I laughed out loud at that edit, well done
@drthox3512
@drthox3512 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the intro!
@18pablo88
@18pablo88 2 жыл бұрын
Your editing skills are outrageous
@Glidus
@Glidus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Season six next! I'm in lockdown again so it's the perfect time to get working. See you (crosses fingers) soon!
@Charok1
@Charok1 2 жыл бұрын
never clickbaited so HARD
@voltairethegoldflame9280
@voltairethegoldflame9280 2 жыл бұрын
Long live J + A = C & J death to Tyrion Targaryen
@voltairethegoldflame9280
@voltairethegoldflame9280 2 жыл бұрын
OH YOU MENTIONED IT AT THE END
@johnjoewoods3922
@johnjoewoods3922 2 жыл бұрын
Do you watch anime?
@johnjoewoods3922
@johnjoewoods3922 2 жыл бұрын
@glidus
@obviouslyPSM
@obviouslyPSM 2 жыл бұрын
If every child who’s mother dies during Birth makes them a Targ....then well...there’s a shit ton of dragon seeds all over.
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Rhaegar Targaryen didn't die during birth Rhaegar Targaryen - Maybe I not a true Targaryen
@jensemann6475
@jensemann6475 2 жыл бұрын
yo pogchamp new glidus video
@zdinc7268
@zdinc7268 7 ай бұрын
I really like the idea that Tywin and Olenna had some shtuff going on behind closed doors, and that the reasons for the Tyrells practically propping up the Lannisters isnt wholey just a case of "Its the best move", because the best move would be to offer to join stannis on the condition that Shareen gets wed to a Tyrell
@nikolaytsankov9066
@nikolaytsankov9066 2 жыл бұрын
A Glidus theroy video. It's been like, what, 2 years? Bet half of you weren't here for Aurane, eh?
@Glidus
@Glidus 2 жыл бұрын
waaaaay fewer than half
@thenerdwithoutfear8378
@thenerdwithoutfear8378 2 жыл бұрын
Glidus is really the... [plays the clip with a girl from Dorne whispering into Bronns ear] of the Asoif Fandom👀👌
@Inkspeckle
@Inkspeckle 2 жыл бұрын
25 min Glidus video, we love to see it
@FireofGia111
@FireofGia111 2 жыл бұрын
that ad gave me the same feeling as when a rollercoaster backs up before flinging you full-force
@mw5549
@mw5549 2 жыл бұрын
George R R Martin is a secret Targaryen
@scarletamazon3455
@scarletamazon3455 2 жыл бұрын
Best Raid shadow legends sponsor ad I've ever seen! Cheesy and prolific as they are, I'm super happy that you got a sponsor, and hope you get many more! I really think you should check out Mista GG too, and approach the same companies that sponsor him. You're both brilliant and hilarious creators with a similar type of audience, and can be imaginative and creative with sponsorship ads. Also so good to see you back, thank you for another amazing video and theory. Time for my second watch through, slightly slower so I can pause and catch all the text this time ;-) Would love to catch a livestream, DO IT
@Glidus
@Glidus 2 жыл бұрын
Mista GG popped into a stream once! Lovely guy. I don't know his work at the time but checked him out afterwards. I can definitely see why you think we're similar in some ways. I'm new to this whole sponsorship thing but at this point (as you can plainly see) I'll take what I can get.
@scarletamazon3455
@scarletamazon3455 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glidus That's awesome! Mista GG is a good guy for sure, from what he shows in his videos for sure. But especially because he often covers certain topics and uses humour that ain't usually sponsorship or ad friendly, the sponsors he has would likely be more open to your humour too. That would be my guess, anyway. Compared to the more 'PC' companies that only want family vloggers anyhow. Chuffed to get a reply from you, thank you! Hope that this is the first of many sponsors so we can get more videos! The time and effort you put into these really shows, while you also make it look effortless. You deserve way more subs already. Those of us who've found you so far appreciate you! (Good to see you know who Bill Bailey is as well, just caught that reference, one of my favourite comedians!)
@fiachracollins5233
@fiachracollins5233 2 жыл бұрын
That ad segway was so smooth
@AlfieVsLion
@AlfieVsLion 2 жыл бұрын
How the feck did I miss the notification for dis un Glimbus?! Brilliant as always brother, and hopefully still monetised 👌💪
@richardpowell4281
@richardpowell4281 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you're on OG drunken peasants podcast fan aye Glidus? "Way back in nineteen ninety eight... When, the brother of KANE, threw Mankind off a Hell in a Cell Through a Spanish announcer table...."
@MegaFeeso
@MegaFeeso Жыл бұрын
I always thought it’d be more fun if Jaime and Cersei were born of the Mad King. That would mean that Targaryens got the throne back right after Robert died and it’d add irony to Jaime killing his father, also it’d somewhat explain their relationship.Itd also be ironic if Tyrion was Twin’s only kid.
@marijntaal1531
@marijntaal1531 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there with The Darkstar... The Rogue Prince theme starts playing
@stupidhandles
@stupidhandles 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking love this channel. Heads and shoulders above anyone else. The us how you make content. I think I'd still love glidus even if I didn't spunk my nutts over ASOIAF content. Seriously gladius, your levels of detail (even just for a gag, you'll only see if you pause quick enough) truly brilliant content, great humour and the best editing on KZbin. If I wasn't a poor man with a health condition it's one of the very few channels I would give money too, but I am poor and don't work, so sorry about that. People with a job, give this man your money
@horizon_universe9349
@horizon_universe9349 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this theory everywhere at some point, it’s very ingesting but I don’t see it for myself. Can’t wait for the books (one day. A girl can dream)
@Derkosson
@Derkosson 2 жыл бұрын
Dreaming for Spring hey?
@horizon_universe9349
@horizon_universe9349 2 жыл бұрын
@@Derkosson badum tssss. Here is your cookie mate. You deserve that one !
@Derkosson
@Derkosson 2 жыл бұрын
@@horizon_universe9349 Thank you, thank you! [Bows to the crowd]
@ProudPapaJD
@ProudPapaJD 2 жыл бұрын
You have convinced me, Tyrion IS a Targaryen! So cool!!!
@Galvatronover
@Galvatronover Жыл бұрын
Why
@katrinrudtke6324
@katrinrudtke6324 7 ай бұрын
Supper😊😊😊😊😊😊
@strategicrager1891
@strategicrager1891 2 жыл бұрын
I know you probably have heard this, but you got on point timing with those clips and your voice.
@vincentvalen72
@vincentvalen72 2 жыл бұрын
And then in the year 1998, The Undertaker- *water spit take* xD
@sihollett
@sihollett 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason why this theory has any credibility is that people want Tyrion to ride Viserion (which is also a much more credible explanation of all the stuff about the Imp and dragons) and wrongly think that only Targs can ride dragons.
@canadian__ninja
@canadian__ninja 2 жыл бұрын
Technically the question is whether Tyrion has Targaryen blood, not whether he's a Targaryen, since being an actual Targ means a lawful wedding. Either way, no.
@simcoe4045
@simcoe4045 2 жыл бұрын
A Glidus video on my birthday. I feel blessed.
@basedchimera5859
@basedchimera5859 2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday:)
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday
@mihaimoldo
@mihaimoldo 2 жыл бұрын
It melted my cold blackheart when you mention Tirion Fordring.! Kudos sir.
@pastlife960
@pastlife960 2 жыл бұрын
Aerys: Congratulations on your engagement Tywin, who’s the lucky girl? Tywin: Johanna Lannister Elroy Potachnik bursts in: NOW THIS IS A MAN THAT KNOWS HOW TO MARRY HIS COUSIN!
@nikolaytsankov9066
@nikolaytsankov9066 2 жыл бұрын
Insert time-travelling fetus joke here
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography Жыл бұрын
That might have been the smoothest ad transitions ever.
@transbender5906
@transbender5906 Жыл бұрын
That was the smoothest transition into the sponsor I've ever seen
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