Helldivers 2 - CCO Reveals Massive News, Bile Titans & Spawns!

[@GlitchUnlimited]

Hey everyone, just an update: I'm experimenting with a new microphone and still getting the hang of it. Also, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this recent news and whether you think it will make a significant impact? I believe it could be their best patch yet, but I'm trying to not get my hopes up too much.

[@theworstbox]

@@GlitchUnlimited Keeping my expectations moderate but this looks really good, they never reverted an entire change like this since they removed shrapnel from the Eruptor Flamethrower can finally be somewhat viable against bots too, big W, though I think it wont help against anything bigger than a Hulk

[@GlitchUnlimited]

​@@theworstbox Right lol I don't expect any Helldiver to start rushing a large enemy like the Factory Strider with a Flamethrower lol...although that would be hilarious to see.

[@Venzynt]

You should ask for more subscribers at least 10 more times in the video.

[@GlitchUnlimited]

@Venzynt I'll try next time! Great advice. Maybe I'll include several pop ups too! (sarcasm and I know I might have mentioned it little too much during script)

[@vulpesinculta3478]

My thoughts on it are this: The patch drops Sep. 17th, I just need to get my friend to buy it sometime between then and now, then we'll see how good it is once it drops.

[@UNIT398]

They should call this update "The escalation of escalating escalations".

[@lukemehalick370]

Nerf of the nerfs that nerfed the nerfdom

[@nahfr.]

​@@lukemehalick370 ur lame 😂

[@zemufinman1639]

The rescinding of freedom

[@UNIT398]

@@zemufinman1639 "the rescheduling of freedom"

[@jamesharbinger1711]

“Will changing the flamethrower make the game to easy?” Uh… the risk of closing the distance to use the weapon in the first place IS the danger

[@FazeParticles]

Correct, the risks of the flamethrower stratagem is very apparent. Tryhards like to pretend there’s no risks. What weird people they are.

[@zemufinman1639]

Dueling a flame hulk is now possible. Is it a good idea? Absolutely not. Is it a good idea to bring the flamethrower on bots in the first place. Hell no! Also its a tad suspicious to me that they didnt show the new flamethrower killing a real charger in one unbroken clip (they used a dummy charger with no AI and cut to it dying) and its extra suspicious that they didnt show the hulk duel at all. It makes me think either the devs arent skilled enough to do that or the flamethrower still takes a while to kill them

[@BosleyBeats]

@@jamesharbinger1711 now it’s time to buy the new armor and test it out

[@tvrkm6897]

Don't forget that lighting the ground on fire is also an easy way to light yourself on fire. I've done that too many times by simply thinking it had gone out when it was just part of the flames animating.

[@frederickspeller8117]

When I get that close I'm not in danger, I AM the danger.

[@coltenc100]

the "i thought we couldn't revert it" has the same energy as a dad catching their kid in a lie

[@magma_fire_bagwan]

Knowing the way the Studio seemingly operates, this is 100% what happened

[@frostbite107]

Lmao the dad energy, I just wish they could have added a dad joke there

[@axilus_4012]

Bro basically said “IFYOURBITCh ass doesn’t change it back I swear to god”

[@Staladus]

Well they didn't revert it, it works completely different now. Before it was a bug where fire just ignored armor and went through it, but now they just increased its AP and damage

[@jegantdragoch.7088]

its reasonable that it is very hard to revert it and easier to say its not possible.

[@Scarptre]

Not just the Pre-EOF Flamethrower, also a 33% buff and ability to strip armor against hulks, bile titans, and chargers.

[@enviousshogun]

And that could possibly carry down to the new flame weapons like they mentioned, would be interesting to see a penetration system for flames like they have for projectiles

[@AmelpsXett]

so basically bug missions are becoming snoozefests now

[@Scarptre]

@@AmelpsXett Like Arrowhead said “A game for everyone is a game for no one” Now go play with only sidearms if you want difficulty lmao.

[@AmelpsXett]

@@Scarptre whats your point

[@crackdog3523]

"its way easier to buff difficulty going forward" - is exactly what we've been trying to explain to the tryhards, the game can and will get harder as they add higher difficulties, add more variants, etc. Its still early in its lifecycle

[@polskipolak9073]

"But but muh skill issue git gud" - Tryhard idiots

[@LaserTractor]

So they will basically nerf everything back. This is what this quote entails

[@ironhorse492]

​@LaserTractor No. One of the ways that the game was praised at launch, and part of what sold me on the game, is that the game handles difficulty not by modifying player health/damage or enemy health/damage, but rather increasing enemy numbers and enemy types at higher difficulty. Part of the problem that people like myself have had with the nerfs is that they are modifying damage numbers directly.

[@LaserTractor]

@@ironhorse492 they'll find a way to mess up again I'm sure

[@nahfr.]

​@@LaserTractor weird take, if you believe this just quit

[@Clipster97]

Honestly I loving the vibe in this comment section rather in other videos where everyone was hating on the game and AH

[@Dragonesa_Kel]

Me too! 💜

[@DutchGuyMike]

Same thing I thought about the memes, in the beginning it was so much fun. Then it all became sad/hate memes (justified).

[@champzki]

That was totally 2 videos ago man. We have evolved

[@samuraitadpole5459]

​@Matthew-b2yI wanna have hope especially since space marine 2 is a huge competitor

[@celestrio]

I never played HD1 but hearing how the HD veterans talk about the illuminates, we'll most definetly gonna need the weapons buffed.

[@chicagobreed502]

You'd be right, I'm wondering how they're going to implement some of the more harassy teleporting enemies like the wall generator.

[@Rhino-Prime]

We are gonna get our shit rocked with them Especially they bring back the wall

[@champzki]

@@chicagobreed502 NOOO!!! THE HORROR’S OF THE WALLS STILL HAUNT ME!!!

[@champzki]

Haha! Funny how a “wall” was one of the most violent, fear inducing enemies.

[@kokorochacarero8003]

I hope they bring some new sort of mechanic as a challenge besides having heavy armor and more damage/HP Imagine if they had energy shields or an energy based mechanic to deal with on their heavy units or structures that take reduced damage from physical rounds and require energy weapons in order to be disabled I'm hoping for something that's more interesting than sliding the difficulty up in Skyrim and enemies being the same but with stat multipliers

[@biglean4137]

If AH succeeds, the community will review bomb it with positivity. It would be a huge win for them. Fingers crossed.

[@g80gzt]

I'd rather have 70% of the players have fun with more things, than 30% of the players circlejerking over how good it is that the anti-chaff weapon is worse at everything and able to kill the user, when compared to another anti-chaff weapon.

[@monocyte2210]

agree 100% me and my friends are working and only play a few times a week / month. I would appreciate if devs focus on the fun aspect of the game rather than the "get gud" aspects

[@biggus6633]

Honestly Arrowhead needs to look at Helldivers 1 and make Helldivers 2 more like it. HD1 feels like it has more content than HD2; vehicles, better jump pack, weapons, boss battles, everything

[@islamdefenderpl]

I'm sure they will add so much more things in the future. Game hasn't been released for a year yet.

[@TheNightOwl11683]

We're Making Flamethrowers Great Again

[@strychnineplacebo2228]

MFGA 2024 🎉

[@GlitchUnlimited]

Can the developers create a hat now please...

[@rafaelcorrea1211]

And we will make the terminids pay for them.

[@Skullwalker]

​@@rafaelcorrea1211😅

[@D-S-G.]

This is the only thing on the line for the super Earth presidential debate today

[@JibronLames]

Just got done being bounced around like a ping pong ball by rocket devastaors. Can't wait for rocket blasts to be nerfed

[@GlitchUnlimited]

Same here! The reduce rockets should be a great change.

[@Hejahi]

YES FIXED FLAMETHROWER

[@teegloo]

Oh my god its a miracle

[@ICEMACKYOU]

If they are reverting the flamethrower that means they can revert the Eruptor too. 😭 bruh.

[@AdmiralEisbaer]

There's much more important stuff. Like the sound of the pelican autocannon that they changed for some weird reason :D

[@Samuel-jn2oc]

It's just the first buff they showcased,it's still possible that they are doing the eruptor too Finger crossed

[@gaspar2934]

The thing with the eruptor is that the shrapnel of the bullet is the same used in the orbital shrapnel explosion stratagem, thats why it does so much damage (and with the nerf removing the shrapnel instead of just decreasing the damage, who knows if its directly tied to the stratagem)

[@GregAndrews03]

God I hope not. I'm so happy that I don't kill myself every time I shoot that damn gun.

[@nahfr.]

Nah, they're different eruptor needs new shrapnel made as it used to use the orbital airburst as its shrapnel

[@anonymousman34]

now we just need the exo to be more tanky and more powerful

[@DutchGuyMike]

It's confirmed they are working on it (either they will allow us to use both or they will be buffed WITH a reload point).

[@Boamere]

The emancipator does the same amount of durable damage as the cookout shotgun, which does the least durable damage out of any shotgun. They really should increase the durable damage up to be the same as the handheld auto cannon at least

[@contentconsumer3743]

Fr, last game it exploded because I jumped out (No enemies around.)

[@crackededge9351]

@@DutchGuyMikeExosuits/mechs need more explosive damage resistance. Too often a rocket Hulk instantly blows up my mech or my mech arms from 1000 meters away. Mechs have been functionally useless on the automaton front since release. On the bug side, mechs need significantly more ammo and rocket damage to keep up with the larger number of enemies per breach on difficulties 8-10.

[@monocyte2210]

@@contentconsumer3743 its crazy that some plants in the environment can literally destroy the mech this is hilarious

[@Bangcat]

And here they claimed they couldn't revert flamethrowers without breaking other things. Amazing what you can do when so much ratings and player numbers drop so sharply .

[@ArheIy]

The game won't become too easy as far as we get more powerful enemies, which will definetly happen (and has happened already a few times) considering that diff 11-15 are yet to come. Buffing players gives more space for this difficulty increase, so I'm all in for it.

[@andyhilton8653]

I don’t think it’s any surprise they “found a way” after Sony meetings previously, dwindling player count and no end game. It’s not the noisy players the game wants back. It’s the vast majority of quiet ones who just left and play something else. I’d glad it appears the penny has dropped but if I was I in their shoes I’d be giving the players something as way as an apology. This daily teasing thing is hyping something up and they did that with E of F and that fell very flat

[@jonmann4980]

I agree they should give us something to make up for the pain caused by their ignorance

[@kevin9218]

The pre-order armors... I don't mind if they drop it into the super credit shop some day. But keep the super citizen title exclusive at least.

[@DutchGuyMike]

I really, REALLY want those armors.. I was 2 months too late to the game, and I have everything in-game except those :(

[@beakedbossgaming3200]

hows about how long it takes for then to re nerf the flame throwers : )

[@IIICL0AKERIII]

Would be cool to watch Terminids against Automatons, they don't seem to be allies... or are they?

[@chiefofspades]

I definitely think they shouldn't release the pre-order armors to everyone. Maybe do a color swap and make a gag about being counterfeit replicas.

[@MrGuitarfreak132]

I love this idea!!

[@mategido]

Nice, they addressed the latest dumb nerf; What about the other 6 months of dumb nerfs? I didn't forget them, my weapons still mostly suck ass

[@elliotnemeth]

This is just the first buff announcement. More will come.

[@ShoutOfEarth]

Ah yes, “The Deescalation of Freedom”

[@Lewapolis]

The Deescalation of Tyranny

[@DanielYellsAtPeople]

THANK FUCKING GOD!!! I'm booting up the game as soon as I'm done watching the video. Flamethrower reverted actually was possible, hmm. Golly, I really hope the next few patches are just as exciting.

[@theglitchinthematrix3213]

Coming September 17th...

[@monkeBeastTitan]

I hope all the dev boot lickers see this, it was obviously possible to revert the changes

[@girthquake0]

It's not out yet doofus

[@AdmiralEisbaer]

@@monkeBeastTitan Doesn't have anything to do with "boot licking" to cut them some fkn slack or at least be civil about it.

[@monkeBeastTitan]

@@AdmiralEisbaer I mean the people who kept saying the changes can't be reverted and were good not the devs by the way

[@NoNo-xh7ru]

I don’t mind the preorder armor remaining exclusive. It means something when you see that armor right now. Sure I’m a little disappointed to not have it but it just makes it all the more unique when I encounter someone that does have it.

[@prettypants4824]

I'm honestly not that upset about not having the pre-order armor. I'll never really feel bad about not pre-ordering a game, because I think pre-ordering games in 2024 is just a financially poor decision and a huge unnecessary risk. Sure the armor is cool looking, but all it really shows is that you bought the game before you actually knew what it was going to be like.

[@DaytonaRoadster]

HELL, its about time

[@k_balu-8104]

I see what you did there, with the Starcraft reference

[@DutchGuyMike]

@@k_balu-8104 Tychus... what have you done?!

[@k_balu-8104]

@@DutchGuyMike I have made a deal with the devil, she dies, i get to live

[@arcturus64]

​@@DutchGuyMikeI made a deal with the devil Jimmy.

[@kokorochacarero8003]

Chargers like that... There's only one thing to do 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔫🚬

[@neckrite001]

It is almost like they nerfed their game into the toilet and now know they need to fix it. WE HAVE ONLY BEEN TELLING THEM FOR 3 MONTHS +

[@Baconbitzzzz]

Fun > challenge every single time. If the game is not fun, no one will play it. Simple as that

[@Chris_Tootoo]

The people who are saying “the game is just going to get easier.” Haven’t thought about how they can just add level 11 or higher difficulty.

[@rickdiesel2k]

people wanted buffs but now are complaining that the game will be too easy? cant make some people happy

[@bulletking71]

You will always see discourse one way or another. But to make the game more difficult is kinda easy by just giving more things to kill as long as it's not heavier enemies. If they feel like it's easier now, just give the factions more smaller enemies.

[@ComicGladiator]

I see this stupid line of reasoning every time with these things. Lots of people want buffs, a vocal minority think it will be too easy. Different people wanting different things, get it?

[@mindsight9732]

buff weapons ffirst, maybe fix charger/destroyable armor bugs, maybe make armor value lEss binary 100% -> 50% -> 0%. Then wait and see if enemy defense nerfs are needed before touching hp values.

[@jauken83]

This may open up some more variety for meme/RP builds. Make a literal fire team. Anti fire armor, flamethrowers, napalm strike, etc.

[@zacharymclaren5665]

"we will make flamethrowers GREAT AGAIN" can sum up this update as far as a i know

[@CNM3]

Give us more ammo while you're at it. Its not fun running around with little to no ammo and randoms always hoarding the supplies since the supply call in doesnt even show up on the map.

[@gabusdeux]

Not to overuse this; skill issue. Literally. There's ammo all over the map and if you only hit the enemy 1/4 of the time, you're gonna run outta ammo.

[@IRMentat]

@@gabusdeuxthere’s a de facto 10-30x headshot multiplier and a LOT of med-pen armour bias beyond “challenge” 4/10 difficulty. Frankly speaking that ground ammo is almost never on the spot where you get teleport-ambushed then pressured by 2/3 breaches/drops every ~90 seconds when a lot of the primaries can take mag-dump for a SINGLE enemy hive commander or berserker pack. That leaves 80% of your total ammo for the other 95% of an attack wave. When things happen you can’t hyper-optimise every bullet shot and weapon change. Those kneeling reloads especially are actual killers that n combat so that’s most AV weapons functionally 1-shot unless attacking passive enemies and most active spawns throw 2/3 heavies at you and the damage bug means those heavies need 2d hits each to take out.

[@michaelquillen6221]

Military experience lending some weight here but; standard load out for some militaries for their primary weapon is 7 to 8 mags. But anyone with experience, real, will tell you that a smart Soldier carries as much as they can.

[@Dankyjrthethird]

Skill issue tbh

[@mindsight9732]

Your not wrong and not right either. Seeing more PoIs that don't spawn any ammo or very little. Half the time it feels like you have to mag dump a sizeable portion just to effectively ebgage the next group with most weapons. can feel like 1/3 your ammo per fight, esp when not in a 4 man stack, before reinforcements get called. We could definantly go to 4-10 magazines for reloadable weapons. But outside piss easy diff 1-4, marksmanship and ammo control matters right now. A bit more then it should before diff 7 and the start of normal difficulty.

[@gordianknot5260]

The delete key is the most valuable button on their keyboard thats wild

[@Meatvius]

Keep hating they just making the game better

[@samuraitadpole5459]

​@@Meatviusshouldn't have gotten to this point

[@DeathCapt.Kraken]

CRAZY THEORY! Feeling like HD2 could be fixed in 30 days from their update clip, but the Devs wanted an extra 30 days to play Space Marines too. It would bring me huge confidence in this patch if the Devs openly promised to not play SM2 till after September 17th 😂🎉 We can't play the game that we want so neither can they!!! Love ya AH!

[@IRMentat]

I mean SM2 is a weekends work at most, other than the artificially slow class progression. There’s not much content but a whole heap of copy paste cutscene, dialogue and bullet sponge timesink

[@DutchGuyMike]

@@IRMentat This. People saying that game would replace Helldivers 2.. just.. no. Completely different games.

[@knabdank]

yea i quit hd2 im gonna play sm2 instead

[@Qpdocnrn]

I really want 2 uses for resupply so annoying when someone selfish calls it in on their own also want mechs on 4 min cooldowns with 4 uses or even just have a vehicle stratagem slot also orbital barrages should be on 2 min cooldown they are way too long

[@DutchGuyMike]

They are working on mechs, they will either make it so you can use both OR buff them and give a reload point.

[@sventheterrible7598]

now we'll have 30% of the community telling the dev's that the Flamethrower is "WAAYY TOOO OOOPPP, please nerf it"

[@stinky-toe15676]

But now they know not to ever touch the flamethower again

[@gaspar2934]

Its better to have a 30% of the community calling it OP instead of 70% tired of the constant nerfs/bugs in weapons 🗿

[@DiogoSalazar]

I wonder if they will increase the damage and AP of the DoT effect of flames as well

[@sventheterrible7598]

@@DiogoSalazar I don't know I just hope they buff the primary weapons aswell, the assault rifles in general feel very bad. small mag sizes and the sickle that overheats too quickly.

[@polskipolak9073]

@@gaspar2934 it's more like 95% community tired looking at player counts

[@Mama_Waluigi]

I cant wait for the flamethrower buff, i wanted to try out fire but then they nerfed it, but the cookout is fun to use for now and the crisper, but i also cant wait for the potential toxic wb cause ive been loving the gas strike recently

[@Polybiased]

I personally think the preorder armors should remain exclusive (I don't have them, fwiw). Obviously I would like to have, but that was for the pre-order peeps.

[@DutchGuyMike]

I really, REALLY want those armors.. I was 2 months too late to the game, and I have everything in-game except those :( Helldivers 2 is a game that focus on accessibility, then let us have those armors as well. It was a sleeper hit, so how the in the HECK was anyone supposed to know about the game and its pre-order outfits? The codes were gone after 1 week/month.

[@NGBit]

I pre-ordered and I have it, but it's not like I paid extra. I just bought it a little earlier and I wouldn't mind if people have it. I didn't buy the game early for that lol

[@QuaverSager]

Sweet Liberty, they've heard our cries!

[@LilPreston94]

I think the preordered edition should stay exclusive. If they release them to everyone else I think there should be something different so you can still tell. Even if it’s something small. I still use my white and gold helmet so if that gets put up for purchase. Make the gold parts yellow instead or less shiny. Then for story purposes “We’ve made replica armors of our earliest divers but we lacked some of the material”

[@TravisTrittFan]

I couldn't care less about the pre-order armors. If they do release it, obviously I think it should be locked behind the Super Credits at a more expensive rate compared to the other armors in the store. Or perhaps it could be unlockable by completing an entire Operation at a certain difficult level, like 9 or 10. Ultimately though, the reason I don't care about it is because until they give us the ability to customize the Passive Armor that goes with it, I wouldn't want it anyway. May be a sick looking armor set, but if I don't like the Passives, then it it doesn't benefit me any. Engineering Kit and Fortified are my two preferred Passives and I swap between those depending on what I'm doing, just wish I didn't have to keep changing my armor and helmet everytime.

[@DutchGuyMike]

I really, REALLY want those armors.. I was 2 months too late to the game, and I have everything in-game except those :( Helldivers 2 is a game that focus on accessibility, then let us have those armors as well. It was a sleeper hit, so how the in the HECK was anyone supposed to know about the game and its pre-order outfits? The codes were gone after 1 week/month. Meaning there was no way to obtain them despite them still being sold (PS5 still has some codes available, but not the PC).

[@jauken83]

I feel like the diffuculty is good, its just that you get pigeonholed into the meta builds at the highest diffs.

[@DutchGuyMike]

I never use Assault Rifles on any difficulty higher than at most 4-5. The Dominator/fire shotgun are the meta guns, for me.

[@Bcd31997]

I want my breaker incendiary to have its original clip size back as well

[@IRMentat]

I want my BREAKER to get its original mag size back. The mat light pen weapon didn’t deserve to be nerfed when most people were just at the difficulty/progression where ought own was still useful/reliable.

[@DutchGuyMike]

@@IRMentat Well at least armor is getting nerfed.

[@ryandt3474]

This is the problem. This focus should have been there from the start. Make overpowered weapons and buff spawn rates as the difficulty went higher. Then focus on bringing in new game content and new enemies. Now they still stuck at the beginning of trying to find a game balance that we've been asking for ages with barely any new game content. We're are the clan systems. Why can't they introduce orders on building planetary defences to reduce attack rates. There's so much more they can introduce into a game to engage more and new players but they still focused on weapon balances because they don't listen to their player base. What's going to happen with this update, it's going to feel a bit more fun to play but with no real engaging missions, it's going to get boring quickly. Especially for us maxed players that have unlocked everything

[@KingArthur101]

I cant wait for the nerfs to come on sep 17 ☺

[@KedrChadEater]

Flamethrowers should be absolutley stupid. Youre either gonna cook whatever is inside all that armor or its gonna leak through whatever cracks and burn it out. Makes sense itd be good for chargers and heavy bots. No Shell Chitin or otherwise is gonna stop the sheer volume of heat. For the bots even the hulk has exposed heavy liquid or electical lines, those would burn up and fuck the bot lol. Direct flame should be deadly. Now personally i dont think burning liquid pools should be as effective since youre not literally incasing the entire creature in fire.

[@champzki]

If they fix how buggy and unfun it is to fight bots, more people would play the MO’s. Getting sniped by enemies you can’t even see while they have precise headshot aiming, sometimes through gigantic terrain, makes me nope the fuck out every time.

[@character1782]

Idea, dynamic enemies, so right now we have 3 types of weapons Physical Fire Energy Let's say if to many helldivers are using fire the bugs grow a resistance for fire on those planets but with a resistance you get draw back on another let's say energy, this way we can cycle though our guns more and stratagems

[@Pacer_Master]

I’m a big fan of exclusive stuff so I would rather them keep the pre order armors exclusive, or if they want to make them available to everyone make like a second version that is available to everyone while keeping the originals exclusive or put a mark or something to differentiate the two. And that’s coming from someone who didn’t pro order the game

[@SK8GEEK1]

"I dont want to get too excited with this patch" " OMG GUYTS THEY FIXED THE FLAMER BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL PRE NERF" pick a fucking lane start the video by talking like the flamer patch is already out and an amazing fix then saying to be optimistic about the future patch

[@knabdank]

too little too late, i quit the game. fucking done with AH trying to do everything they can to ruin a fun game they fell arse backwards into

[@doubleya215]

We should be able to destroy impaler tentacles. They are meaty appendages with no armor except the tips. Why has this not been introduced?

[@mikec-1377]

I would love a change to the impaler tentacles. If you shoot them enough to go down, they pop right back up. Maybe delay their return or when they pop back up, they have to closer to the impaler. That could serve the purpose of finding where the hell they’re coming from!

[@macaster9048]

Can't wait to play this game again, wish it will come to a state that it will be like it used to, but more polished and deepend gameplaywise

[@biglean4137]

Wanna make bot MO's more fun? Add free stratagems modifiers. Love those extra free stratagems.

[@dragoonlance01]

Kinda miffed our boi here isn't using an OPS or some other support to destroy the shrieker tower.

[@natervaternone2020]

I mean, this is great and all, but it just shows that they disregarded player feedback before and only made these changes to save the game's plummeting freefall. It just shows that they could have made these changes before and just never wanted to actually do it.

[@DutchGuyMike]

True, but development also takes a LOT of time, things aren't done in days or weeks but over months.

[@lejenddairy]

I’ve taken a break from Helldivers 2 but god damnit Arrowhead you’ve won me back with the flamethrower revert.

[@bjornareriksen]

I suspect there's quite a lot of sleeper-divers out there who, like me, are just waiting for the game to figure out what it wants to be so we can rejoin the fight and get back to having fun💪

[@Shade______dumbnamerestriction]

13:20 Lmao C2 running for their life in the background

[@4VRFIERCE]

All we gotta do is be a chaos diver the moment they treat us in silence

[@someOldBaldguy]

Why not just make every weapon “overpowered” like the box describes. That way we can literally pick any weapon to play with and get out there and have fun multiple ways instead of looking for the “new meta”

[@polskipolak9073]

Being OP means it can do enything exceptionally well, you don't want a pistol to kill a Titan in one shot it's just dumb. What you mean is properly balanced weapons, single thing that balance team failed at.

[@saltychocolate2843]

@@polskipolak9073 The main problem is that the balance spreadsheet dickheads have no idea whats the difference between 'reliable and balanced' and 'Op' What we consider 'OP' is infact just Reliable. Its not one shotting stuff or has infinite mag capacity, Its just good at what it does. Like the Slugger. It was good at range, So? Its a SLUG. Instead of buffing Marksman rifles, they nerfed it and removed its knockback. Now? Its still nerfed because they made it handle like shit and 'graciously gave it its knockback back' No.. You just made it worse than what it was supposed to be. (and the rifles are still shit. Not as shit as before but still shit.) The auto Shotty that we had at the beginning that everyone was calling op? Not really. Everything else was just shit to use. The railgun was just a bit too much but they responded by smashing it into the ground to the point you had to quite literally BLOW yourself away if you wanted to do any damage at all. Have it on Unsafe or Just dont pick it up is just.. Stupid. Its a RAILGUN. Its meant to penetrate, When it bounces off something just makes it kinda pointless. Everyone just kinda got sick of it after the back to back nerfs with VERY minor Buffs. Kind of like a "Oh look we put a bandage over this massive sword we shoved into your wound and twisted. but you'll be fine." And because they did that one 'Buff patch' of some assault rifles doesnt excuse the other countless nerfs they did.

[@DutchGuyMike]

@@polskipolak9073 Well it is mostly Alexus's fault, he nerfed all those weapons rather than buffing non-used ones.

[@polskipolak9073]

@@DutchGuyMike yes

[@DarknessshadowKGA]

Give me the DLC armor! SHOW US YOU CARE AFTER ALL THESE MONTHS!

[@DutchGuyMike]

Yes!

[@antonio4055]

it took them more than a month to press ctrl+z

[@jacksonrichardson9119]

Muwha

[@nighti1066]

I‘m just hoping that, while releasing such a big patch will bring new life into the game, it will not bring as many new bugs and crashes

[@xaymichael]

FIRST

[@braddouglas6755]

Re: MO balance changes for Bots: Simply adjust the modifiers. Acting outside a campaign MO should have a resource allocation consequence. Basically, things get way harder when the main mission focus is elsewhere. Shipping frequency on Supply lines, Orbital cooldown modifiers, etc.

[@IRMentat]

Saying it again. Roll back EVERY weapon nerf (yes, even the Eruptor, just make it a stratagem if need be), NONE of them were needed, AH simply needs to properly manage the 1-2-3-4 player “balance” because 4 ORGANISED players have the combat efficiency of way more people and “boom” potential than several squads of randoms. Yet what did AH do? After MONTHS of having 4-layer spend for 1-2-3 man squads they decided to double solo spawns from 1/6 to 1/4 that of a 4-stack despite so many weapon reload/re-use/effectiveness/ammo nerfs and to this day I don’t know why.

[@smoldoggy1005]

Really hoping this update is good. Theres only 20k on during peak hours in the week and half of them are afk or supercred farming

[@Tom2theY]

Pre-Order Bonus’ should be that & not in any later. They could however tweak & release a “Post-Release” set. Arc Knight, grounded against electrical attacks (bronze and grey). Grenadier of Democracy, carry extra grenades & stims (white and red). Ambassador of Freedom, Radar Ping range Increased. (Grey & Yellow). This why they’d look similar, similar names, different attributes but later buyers could get something for sticking with the game.

[@The_Modern_Viking]

I need more ice related weapons. We have Fire, and Lightning, where is ice? Cryo-Nades (impact but spreads liquid nitro and freezes immediate surroundings locking up enemy movement as well as being susceptibleto concussive weapons), Ice Rifle (like the Eruptor, but uses rounds with liquid nitro, making a smaller spread of ice but locks up movements just the same) Cryo-Nade Pistol (self explanatory: Grenade pistol variant that launches cryo-nades)

[@BlenderGeek]

This is a better approach. Any tool can solve any problem, but the most specialized the tool the faster it is at its job. There were always the seeds of this idea, any weapon can kill a chargers rear, but the super heavy units could not be solved with any tool.

[@IRMentat]

Not just that but the anti fun league were actively REMOVING options from the table even as the new content teams were lining up more and more anti-gameplay enemy varieties. Unlimited ragdoll works impalers, rockets for every bot plus a new tank with no radiator and an armour boost for the already med-heavy walker units that can 2-shot you when alone that spawn in packs of 2-6. Chargers and spewers with fog machines, swarm flier and the initial rocket-hell (flying tank) flier “patrols” (silent-teleportation flank-ambushes), the behemoth chargers taking double the AV shots to kill but spawning at the same rates of regular chargers. The damage immunity phases of bile titans. Swarms of Spewers with sneak shoes and more runspeed than their r slug forms would suggest. Tankier? Alt-type brood, bile-chargers/warriors, boosted aim-bot accuracy (while their projectiles remain almost hitscan). Those are the “highlights” but the list goes on in terms of mostly undocumented enemy buffs deliberately ignoring all the changes to the patrol/spawn/formation/volume/1-2-3-man-groups-with-4-sack-spawns over successive weeks.

[@Maximoepl]

I wonder when AH will get that there is large portion of players that do not engage with automatons as a form of protest, until we get our weapons to the pre nerf version.

[@UnlovedWarlock]

Again, I didn't know about Helldivers 2...I don't see why I should be punished for that! I'LL PAY SUPER CREDITS FOR THE ARMORS, LET ME BUY THEM!!!!

[@monocyte2210]

idc if they increase spawns by 30 to 50% as long as the weapons are POWERFUL. the liberator concussive, carbine, and the SMGs should get some buffs coz they are very underutilized

[@GDLRenoBlade]

I'm very excited and looking forward to all of it. Regarding preorder: i think keeping certain things exclusive and special is key, As alternative, having exclusive stuff (e.g. gold skin) duplicated as a "slightly less special" versio (e.g. silver skin version) might be ok.

[@gigabot3662]

As someone who pre-ordered I would feel quite betrayed if the armors were re-released. Arrowhead would be going back on their word (as listed in the pre-order details. Lying to us about the armors we got early on. They have variations in the game already, perhaps more variations are in order. Players that don't have these armors DO NOT NEED these armors and keeping them exclusive is important to those that invested in the game early. What would be left for those that pre-ordered if they re-release the armors? Likely nothing, just plain-jane helldivers, that's no fun at all.

[@burto1112121]

As long as the flamethrower buff happens my faith in our Super Earth will be restored and bring on the flaming justice of FFFFFRRRRREEEEEEDDDDOOOOOMMMMMMM!

[@ratchet227]

I'm kinda worry about flamethrower change. I mean, revert flamethrower to pre escalation of freedom state sounds good but add +33% dmg on top of that? FT was strong enough back them, does it need that much of a buff? Alpha commander wasn't a thing back them so....

[@adamhandlin7418]

Please god thank you I hope they take this game in the right direction again. Let the players have fun. If we can run through the game at level 7 to have access to the highest currency stuff great! Buff the ever living shit out of the difficultly on 8 9 and 10 for the tryhards. Absolutely we want the sweats to have fun also, but there is easily a way to make everyone happy. Let us mow down bugs like a joke at 7 and below. Let 8 and up be an unstoppable force of monster bugs that their armor and health is so crazy its hard. Buff and change the monsters on difficulty level, not just nerf weapons across the board

[@jujupants2486]

Could not possibly care any less. Game is already uninstalled. Playing SM2. Let me know WHEN/IF they actually produce something. Talk is cheap and i dont have an ear for it.

[@martin99110]

This KZbinr is very pessimistic. He wants buffs but then is complaining about the difficulty being easy. Like what does he expect is going to happen if you have stronger weapons I.n general. Now the community is complaining the game will be easy: like damn yall jus complaining at this point

[@MeatyChief117]

"I thought we couldn't revert it" "ehhh life finds a way" this is the power of a community coming together

[@Admiral-Dolphin]

I try not getting to overhyped about the patch. Too many times i was hyped and then disappointed. I wait until it launches and then decide how to feel about it. And Pre-Order Armor should stay Pre-Order Armor. Where is the joke about these things when you can buy it regularly later? Its a gift for those who supported the game before a release. Who gave trust in a thing when nobody could say it will be good. We have so many other armors to choose from. And no, i don’t have a pre-order armor and i see it thats fair. Get over it cryboiis.

[@daegaraf898]

Honest, every Buffet from Super Earth Highcommand, is democratic welche. But Ministry of Force? Is there not the thougth, weapon development takes time. So no hestitation, do it richtig, take your time. Better later than an useless weapon.

[@IlBuonDiavolo131313]

Making the Flamethrower burn chargers makes sense, because you are COOKING the thing! Remember the Berserkers from Gears of War? Same principle! Also makes sense against certain Bots because you are frying their circuits and igniting the fuel. Although wouldn't recommend using it against Hulks , as they are incredibly dangerous up-close

[@rhonemeister]

Does this apply to all fire based weapons? Cookout, flame mines, etc? And four people on levels like 8 through 10 can't all focus on 1 bile titan carrying flamethrowers in all that chaos. I hope that isn't their logic. lol

[@tvrkm6897]

I think there are two main problems for the Bot front: difficulty and a lack of story. Bots have tons of ranged options that make things harder to deal with than bugs (personally, the fliers needing heavy weapons to deal with is a pain). And there hasn't been much of a story on the bot side, unlike the whole Termicide saga that had a series of developments that we could see how past MOs had affected the future, culminating in the black hole. Bots have had very little that we could feel in missions. The only one I can think of is the orbital cannons, but now that's just a standard mission type, so it's not like the Termicide that had missions unique to the event and left an impact. I was a little late to the party, so maybe I'm wrong about that. I think that even if it was just the story side that was fixed, more people might go to the bot side- if more interesting and unique things happen there, people can get enough experience and drive to figure things out, and more people will at least pop over to see if the bots are... whatever the equivalent of the hive lords would be.

[@kamarad]

Patch looks legit ! But giving access to pre-order perqs would be a mistake. Maybe give out something similar, or simply allow players to get armor schematics and then customization of colors.

[@wootickgaming6719]

Thank goodness, My baby is gonna be back! I loved using the flamethrower for the bugs, and taking down a charging charger with the flamethrower always felt amazing!

[@Multistan85]

If it’s too easy, then they should introduce a different game mode for those who want challenge. A game mode where they modify values based on their balance ideals. Just like in the game War Thunder, Arcade mode and a realistic mode.

[@dranox7197]

Even if the update makes difficulty 10 easier, they can literally just add a higher difficulty or two. Arrowhead said themselves that it's much easier to tune things up a notch or two once you have it right than to tune things down.

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

Pre order bonuses should remain just that. Otherwise all the people that pre-order and supported the game early on have nothing to show. I got the super citizen edition.if they made everything i got available to everyone, me paying extra meant nothing and i should be refunded

[@mahinahyena]

i know it will make some of the pre order people made but i wish with all my heart that they release the armors to the public through a hard challenge or something. because sadly I love the armors of it and would have 100% pre-ordered it but i didn't know about the game till it was too late .....a dishonor this helldiver regrets everyday.

[@biggus6633]

Another cool update could be a weapons upgrade update where you collect samples to upgrade your weapons to enhance certain stats like more ammo, extra damage, and other perks like armour piercing bullets, or explosive bullets kinda like how you can upgrade your weapons in Dead Space

[@Mr_Skeletal]

I do think the preorder exclusive armour should become available for all players, but not now or for a while. Maybe after a couple of years it should be available, free or paid, I don't mind. See cult of the lamb, they made their preorder bonuses free to all which I think is very fair with these games, starting off unknown and ending up popular, if everyone had known about the games they would be absolutely hit the preorder stuff up