50 Years Of Dura-Ace: From Outsider To Cycling Domination

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We celebrate 50 years of the Shimano Dura-Ace, tracing the history of the groupset since its launch in 1973. Si rides Sean Yates’ 1984 7-Eleven team bike with Shimano Indexed Shifting (SIS), a Lance Armstrong-era Trek, Mark Cavendish’s 2011 Tour de France S-Works McLaren Venge with electronic Di2 shifting, as well as his own 12-speed Pinarello F9.
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🚲 Thanks to Dan from ‪@vintagevelos9517‬ for lending us the bikes in this video!
00:00 Intro
01:15 1973: Dura-Ace is launched
03:28 Dura-Ace 7400 - Shimano Indexed Shifting (SIS)
06:14 Shimano Total Integration (STI)
07:03 Dura-Ace 7700 - Hollowtech Technology
10:41 Dura-Ace 7900 - Digital Integrated Intelligence (Di2)
14:53 Dura-Ace goes black
15:38 Hydraulic disc brakes, power meters & synchro shifting
16:45 Dura-Ace 9200
17:43 Dura-Ace AX
19:12 Summary
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@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Which of these bikes would you choose? 🚲 Let us know in the comments below! 👇
@bucketlist.original
@bucketlist.original 9 ай бұрын
the pinarello, would love to do a test ride on it with on of your presenters!
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 9 ай бұрын
And here's me returning to road bikes after too many years away and feeling rather happy and impressed with my Trek Domane AL2 with Claris group set... 😂
@LosihoTTT
@LosihoTTT 9 ай бұрын
Cavendish's Venge.
@trevorhayes5414
@trevorhayes5414 9 ай бұрын
Yates’ Merckx. It’s just beautiful. Fell in love with that when I first started racing but could never afford it. But it was second fiddle, in my teenage fantasy money-no-option stable of bikes. There was the navy blue and orange Domex team Merckx bike (with Campy deltas. Sorry Shimano, but those deltas will forever be the best looking brakes. You couldn’t stop with them but you’d look amazing!! 😁) that was my absolute dream bike. Stunner!
@sherab2078
@sherab2078 9 ай бұрын
The most modern group set (assuming I could afford it). I've gotten into cycling (mostly touring/trekking) somewhat more seriously maybe 10 years ago, so I didn't really build up much sentiment for the retro stuff. Modern groups are both efficient and good-looking. Still, in GCN standards I would certainly qualify as a beginner, and I'm more than happy with low-end modern groups as well.
@tengouku
@tengouku 9 ай бұрын
Dura Ace is great as long as you can afford it or you are a pro cyclist and someone sponsors it for you. As an average person I will go with the mechanical 105 :)
@roadcyclist1
@roadcyclist1 9 ай бұрын
As an average person, I will go with the Durace di2 :)
@terra-ball
@terra-ball 9 ай бұрын
As an average person I will take integral di2. As a poor person, I would still take 105 di2 over mechanical even if it meant I had to live on the street and eat canned beans.
@yukiko_5051
@yukiko_5051 9 ай бұрын
As an average average person i will stick to my ol' claris. Cheap, durable, and get the job done
@gabrielgordillo6920
@gabrielgordillo6920 9 ай бұрын
as the saying goes: If you’re paying for Dura-Ace, you don’t need Dura-Ace
@jarhead4657
@jarhead4657 9 ай бұрын
Lol whiners. 105 Di2 Endurace from Canyon $2699.
@tomscott4644
@tomscott4644 9 ай бұрын
I have first generation Dura Ace components on my 1977 Trek. It was my only bike I rode for 45 years until last year when the crank arm broke and it didn't feel safe any more. Still, 45 years of use isn't too bad.
@danielhall3895
@danielhall3895 9 ай бұрын
Just replace the crank, and maybe the bottom bracket, should be as safe as it's been for you for 4 decades.
@tomscott4644
@tomscott4644 9 ай бұрын
@@danielhall3895 I did replace the crank arm and previously replaced the bottom bracket. Had previously rebuilt it from scratch with the original components. But everything creaks and rattles and the old brakes (yes new pads) are not very good at stopping me at my current weight. A new bike with hydraulic disc brakes is so so much more confidence inspiring.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
45 years is great! You must really know how to look after your bikes 🙌 Do you think the bike is fixable? 👀
@lio220
@lio220 9 ай бұрын
You rode this bike for 45 years ! That's the durability of dura-ace
@tomscott4644
@tomscott4644 9 ай бұрын
@@gcn It's fixed. I still rode it a few times this summer. Put thousands of miles on it previous couple summers. New bike feels more secure, but old one is still going. I weigh two Vingegaards, so new disc brakes help a lot.
@gregmuon
@gregmuon 9 ай бұрын
My first race bike when I was 15 was Dura Ace EX. It was considered third tier at the time. Everybody ran Campagnolo if they could. Sun Tour Superbe also got a lot of respect, but it cost as much or more than Campagnolo, and repair parts weren't available. 7400 was the game changer. It wasn't just the indexing. The whole groupset was higher quality and built for durability (for real). It didn't hurt that Suntour's derailleur patents had just expired, and Tullio Campagnolo passed away.
@stevenagy7152
@stevenagy7152 9 ай бұрын
Superbe Pro was much more elegant appearing but when SIS showed up, it rang the death knell for Sun Tour. I had Sun Tour and loved it but made the shift to Shimano 600(tricolor) in the early 90s.
@jeremynorth
@jeremynorth 9 ай бұрын
I'm pleased that you mention SunTour which was the most innovative of all though tragically badly managed. Their Superbe Pro was the pinnacle of design at the time. Both Shimano and much later, Campagnolo copied their designs. Shimano's SIS was their first game changer though.
@markdwelchforcongress4456
@markdwelchforcongress4456 9 ай бұрын
I grew up in cycling (and working in bike shops) in the late 70s and early 80s. Suntour & Campy were the standards - Elegant, functional, - and repairable. Suntour competed with all of these innovations, but in a way that could be added to their previous versions - and could be worked on. I raced on Suntour for many years (then switched to Campy) and I was truly sorry to see them go. I still have a bike with Suntour and I have been able to keep it running like a champ. The decline of the competition between Suntour, Campy, Shimano, etc. has been detrimental to cycling overall - both in price and in innovation.
@sir.chrishoy
@sir.chrishoy 9 ай бұрын
The patent expiring on Suntour's slant parallelogram RD in 1984, and Shimano's subsequent adoption later that year was the real turning point.
@Maggie_n_Mitch23
@Maggie_n_Mitch23 7 ай бұрын
Campagnolo still the brand to beat 🚲
@rowdml
@rowdml 9 ай бұрын
Greg Lemond was the first American to win a grand tour when he won the Tour de France in 1986.
@MeFreeBee
@MeFreeBee 9 ай бұрын
That is such a well known part of Tour history I can't believe there aren't more comments on this faux pas.
@walter1081
@walter1081 9 ай бұрын
How could they forget Lemond???
@dblissmn
@dblissmn 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Has to be the most elementary error I've seen on a GCN video.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 9 ай бұрын
Didn't they say...On Shimano?
@garethhelliwell9736
@garethhelliwell9736 9 ай бұрын
Lemond won on Campagnolo. Si stated the first American to win on Shimano.
@rowdml
@rowdml 9 ай бұрын
No mention of how influential Shimano were for braking performance? Spring assisted levers and dual pivots changed the game.
@danielhall3895
@danielhall3895 9 ай бұрын
Suntour with Dia-Compe actually developed sprung levers with light caliper spring brakes earlier, as the response to the spongieness of aero levers, to compensate for the restricted cable path of the brake cable routed along the handle bars.
@sugardove6075
@sugardove6075 9 ай бұрын
In 1974 as a High School student working at a bike shop I ordered a complete Durace group set and a Palo Alto Vitus tubing frame set. Still wished I had it today !
@peteransel2715
@peteransel2715 9 ай бұрын
I love my Dura-Ace 9100, 11 speed mechanical rim brake set up. I have no doubt it could still win a pro tour stage, and it's a bargain by comparison to electronic.
@mogglie
@mogglie 9 ай бұрын
I run a dura-ace 7800 set on my daily commute. It’s super. 10 speed. And absolutely flawless.
@lio220
@lio220 9 ай бұрын
The dura ace 9100 won a lot of world tour pro races in 2022, so there is no reason it couldn't win in 2023 !
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Interesting! What is it about that groupset that you love so much? ⚙
@l.d.t.6327
@l.d.t.6327 9 ай бұрын
@@gcnThe shifting is absolutely fabulous: crisp, very quick and faultless. The pinnacle of mechanical shifting.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
@@l.d.t.6327 Sounds like the dream 👌
@ulrichr.487
@ulrichr.487 9 ай бұрын
I love Dura Ace. I' m in my 40th season of cycling now and used bikes with 7400, 7700 7800 and 9000 versions. I will never forget the feeling of using SIS for the first time and later on STI...it blew me away! But the best thing about Dura Ace is the perfection of manufactering. Durability and function are and have always been excellent. My current bike has Ultegra DI2, which is fine, but hey, it's not the same. Thank you for the video! I wonder how the next gen of Dura Ace will look like!
@runcycleskixc
@runcycleskixc 9 ай бұрын
I am still quite happy with my DA 7800, 52/39 and 11/23 :).
@edmundhodgson2572
@edmundhodgson2572 9 ай бұрын
Love Dan, he's like the mentor we all had back in the 70s and 80's at the local club back when I was a Juvenile.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Big shout out to Dan for lending us some of his amazing collection 🙌
@urbanjungle9600
@urbanjungle9600 9 ай бұрын
Can anyone remember Shimano Santé from the 1980s? As a boy i used to lust after that in the Madison catalogue…….carefree days
@PhyllisBoone-sn8oi
@PhyllisBoone-sn8oi 9 ай бұрын
I loved the looks of the Sante'. I loved the white finish on the rear , and the finely etched logos. But that's as far as it went for me being a working mom and family to care for. I never had the funds to purchase the groupset, but nevertheless had a lot of fun over the years with my bicycles and now cycling on my recumbent trikes. I was able to eventually fund an Ultegra equipped bike, and rode three different versions of it. I still have a 2005 TREK Pilot 2,0 and 1989 Santana Chronos tandem equipped with Ultegra. I love the look and functionality of both versions!
@ulrichr.487
@ulrichr.487 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! Santè was a nice groupsets, place somewhere inbetween 600 and Dura Ace...it had a very specific, elegant look with it's white and grey coloured components. I liked it!
@d1nicoya
@d1nicoya 9 ай бұрын
Best road bikes ever! RIM BRAKE🔥
@jiyon167
@jiyon167 9 ай бұрын
I’m going to the Shimano Museum in Osaka in November I can’t wait.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
That sounds like a great day out! If you're interested in more tech history, you could watch 'The decade that changed cycling forever' on GCN+ 👉 gcn.eu/TDTCCF
@GaryThomasSNSEP
@GaryThomasSNSEP 8 ай бұрын
@gcn nice shout. That's a very interesting documentary.
@jameslee-pevenhull5087
@jameslee-pevenhull5087 9 ай бұрын
I have a Dura-Ace 7700 crankset on a Spesh SWorks 2004 Aluminium. The bike is 7.1 kg.
@Chimy1423
@Chimy1423 9 ай бұрын
One of my bikes, a Cannondale Caad 8 with DURA-ACE 7800. Still, it shifts flawlessly.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Lovely!
@dev1ce888
@dev1ce888 9 ай бұрын
Thank you shimano for all you’ve dine to the cycling community
@truantray
@truantray 9 ай бұрын
Does that include Hollowtech victims?
@dev1ce888
@dev1ce888 9 ай бұрын
@@truantray like it or not shimano is the benchmark of good cycling components
@williamboike7276
@williamboike7276 9 ай бұрын
Thank You for your input. Personally I'm a Campagnolo guy. I trust their products. I presently now using a Chorus 12 speed mechanical group set with rim brakes. Often I mixed components when I formerly built up my own frames. And I just subscribed!
@ralphc1405
@ralphc1405 9 ай бұрын
And ebay also offers very good reproduction Super record brake pads too! I have been using the red scott mathauser pads on my SR calipers only because they match my Colnago master frame LOL
@chrismorley7516
@chrismorley7516 9 ай бұрын
You can't miss out 7800! It was (is) superb!
@ulrichr.487
@ulrichr.487 9 ай бұрын
So true! In my opinion the coolest grupo of it's time, also introducing HT II cranks. And very nice 10 speed shifting, better than 7900.
@philippbeckonert1678
@philippbeckonert1678 8 ай бұрын
: Dura Ace 9000 has been left out as well.
@sir.chrishoy
@sir.chrishoy 9 ай бұрын
It looks dated now, but DA 9000 will be a modern classic and coveted by collectors. It was the last "elegant" DA groupset. I do hope one day, Shimano releases a special edition polished silver road groupset (similar to what was done with GRX).
@ralphc1405
@ralphc1405 9 ай бұрын
What year did 9000 come out?
@jasonfenech5347
@jasonfenech5347 9 ай бұрын
I love every second of this video. Well done guys and Simon 😊
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! 🙌 Would you like us to dive deeper into any other tech? ⚙
@garodrameryan980
@garodrameryan980 9 ай бұрын
what a timing, right before the massive callback
@davecurtis8833
@davecurtis8833 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant work Simon (and team). Great skill riding up a hill and presenting. You must be in zone two ;-)
@filippopogacar
@filippopogacar 9 ай бұрын
Dura Ace state of the art
@IainBakerplus
@IainBakerplus 9 ай бұрын
Groupsets reached their absolute peak with Dura-Ace 9100 mechanical (with rim brakes, obv). It doesn't get any better than that. IYKYK!
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Rim brakes! Interesting 🤔 What is it about discs that you don't like?
@IainBakerplus
@IainBakerplus 9 ай бұрын
@@gcn extra weight and rotational mass, basically. And the supposed increase in braking efficiency is a bit of a smokescreen - the two systems are both perfectly fine. The real benefit of discs is to unlock wider rim widths, better tyre sizing, proper tubeless and lower tyre pressures. It's a shame some of those benefits can't find their way to rim brake bikes.
@dainiusvysniauskas2049
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 9 ай бұрын
Factually incorrect, considering that hydraulic brakes are better, as well as electronic shifting
@thomasschutz3315
@thomasschutz3315 9 ай бұрын
Disc for dirt, Rim for Road- Always ... 11-Speed was the top of the Hill ...for campy, Shimano and SRAM...
@dainiusvysniauskas2049
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 9 ай бұрын
@@thomasschutz3315 Disc for everything, always.
@marcianosolinap3722
@marcianosolinap3722 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for reminding us how Dura-Ace evolved and how significant its innovations to cycling. Well done! I love my 7400, 7800 & 7900 DA on my old bikes.
@Tex735
@Tex735 9 ай бұрын
Great video and great subject!! I love this kind of stuff! Keep 'em coming!!
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! For some more tech history, check out 'The decade that changed cycling forever' on GCN+ 👉 gcn.eu/TDTCCF
@andrewolsen5667
@andrewolsen5667 9 ай бұрын
In defense of Si’s glasses: I live in Las Vegas and the amount of dust and road grit I’ve had to blink out of my eyes has me thinking Si’s on to something with his face windshields. Definitely going to pick up a pair.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Hahahaha we don't have much Vegas dust ... although we do have lots of west country muck 👀
@LP-sp4sf
@LP-sp4sf 9 ай бұрын
What a fascinating video, thank you GCN!
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! For an insight into some more historic tech, why not check out 'The decade that changed cycling forever' on GCN+ 👉 gcn.eu/TDTCCF
@dblissmn
@dblissmn 9 ай бұрын
That's funny seeing you on the Cavendish bike! Looks like you're on a junior's bike; props to coming out of it without blowing up your knees.
@jackzagorski7897
@jackzagorski7897 9 ай бұрын
Great show Simon. Now, can we have similar one about Campagnolo Super Record please. After all the derailleur system was developed by Campagnolo.
@William24009
@William24009 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, great video.
@CraigFyfe
@CraigFyfe 9 ай бұрын
I had a bike with a full shimano 600 AX groupset and it was just stunning!
@joemasci6759
@joemasci6759 9 ай бұрын
I still have mine and was using it daily just 2 years ago.
@stefanrogers2436
@stefanrogers2436 9 ай бұрын
I've ridden each of those generations, including the aero group -- I had an aero crank on a fixed gear bike I built in the 80s. Each one was revolutionary. The current group is amazing.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Was the fixed gear for track or road? 👀 Fixed gear and aero sounds like a killer mix 👀
@JohnnyKnoxvil
@JohnnyKnoxvil 9 ай бұрын
Hearing the royalty free music used on the intro to one of my favorite podcasts in this video confirmed this is the top tier cycling channel to watch
@rg807
@rg807 9 ай бұрын
I've been riding Dura Ace since 1985 and still have my Trek 2000 equipped with the SIS group set. Little known feature- you can switch the SIS feature on/off by rotating a dial in the shift lever. Having said that, there is little reason to do so unless there is a severe adjustment issue with the rear derailleur.
@danielhall3895
@danielhall3895 9 ай бұрын
Friction mode is well known on early index levers. It was a fail-safe measure just in case indexing might have been thrown off, so that you could safely shift and trim manually in an emergency on the road where indexing performance might have been thrown off.
@rg807
@rg807 9 ай бұрын
@@danielhall3895 Yes, it's well known to people my age! (60) 😎
@harambefiorito2037
@harambefiorito2037 9 ай бұрын
Definitely the pinarello, looks amazing
@xbob808x
@xbob808x 9 ай бұрын
I was racing on 7800 back in the day. I remember crashing and having to replace my levers with the slightly more affordable ultegra 6700s due to my mom threatening to punch me for spending so much on my bike. Good times 👍
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
I hope when you moved out you got what you wanted? 😉
@TikeMyson69
@TikeMyson69 9 ай бұрын
@gcn Cycling is his hobby. He can't afford to move out.
@The1trueDave
@The1trueDave 9 ай бұрын
I have some Dura-Ace downtube levers on my steel road bike - I tried second-hand STI levers but they never quite worked right and eventually I found the downtube levers on eBay. They were about £55 but I thought why not? They're about as simple as it gets and even switch to friction mode if something goes wrong. I'm not usually an ASMR/ obsessive type of guy but the feel of the indexing is just * gorgeous * and justifies the price every time I change gear!
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie 9 ай бұрын
The highlight of this video is Cav's bike. God 2011 was a brilliant year in road cycling and his sprints were epic
@edholmes3492
@edholmes3492 9 ай бұрын
Cav's results notwithstanding, the bike is just so damned ugly. Ugly frame and the ugliest Dura-Ace crankset. bring back the previous gen 5 arm spiders
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Peak Cav era 😍
@iwearLingerie
@iwearLingerie 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely we include the GOAT Lance Armstrong
@jinnij.caiman
@jinnij.caiman 3 ай бұрын
I agree, everyone was doping, he was the winner who got caught.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 9 ай бұрын
I had a friend who had one of those blue Team Myiata's with 6 speed Dura Ace AX7300, along with the Dyno Drive cranks and pedals, in the early 80's. HEY! Don't forget about the Dura Ace 10 Track group, that used a 10mm chain, along with 10mm pitch rings and cogs.
@grahamaustin9085
@grahamaustin9085 9 ай бұрын
The 7400 series had a roller bearing BB with cone bearings to handle the sideways forces. Beautiful!
@user-xx2hj7xb6b
@user-xx2hj7xb6b 9 ай бұрын
Ergonomically, shifting levers placed by the brake levers makes perfect sense. A wonder it didn't come years before. That said, I still enjoy riding my '86 Schwinn Paramount with down-tube friction shifting Campy super record.
@philippbeckonert1678
@philippbeckonert1678 8 ай бұрын
: Nah, just forget about Dura Ace 7800 AND Dura Ace 9000 in a video about 50 years of Dura Ace. Great production. Great planing. I can see nothing wrong with that. It's just amazing how much effort is put into videos now :D
@jameswillett118
@jameswillett118 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 9 ай бұрын
Si is excellent at doing these videos, nicely done. That venge is amazing, i think the last venge vias was peak aero road bike.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Ooof peak aero road bike is a BIG claim! What do you make of this weapon? 👉kzbin.info/www/bejne/roqocqSKoMpsrZY
@markowsley4954
@markowsley4954 9 ай бұрын
I had the 7400 with STI shifters on a custom Schwinn Paramount OS. They were a game changer in crit races.
@germurphy4986
@germurphy4986 9 ай бұрын
Why skip 7800??? Best solely mechanical groupset, and arguably theost beautiful
@jackseph03
@jackseph03 9 ай бұрын
The brake levers on Sean Yates’ bike have definitely been repositioned since his heyday. He liked to ride them loooooow.
@gregmuon
@gregmuon 9 ай бұрын
The old standard was the bottom tips of the levers just touched a straight edge held along the bottom of the drops. The drops would have been nearly parallel with the ground. Somebody has rotated those bars up. The hoods were formerly used for climbing and as an aero position, not default position. (I was a mechanic before and after brifters came out)
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 9 ай бұрын
Everyone did.
@RobinT346
@RobinT346 9 ай бұрын
The bike with the Dura Ace AX at the end is gorgeous. I know you can't get to ride one but I'd love to see a video looking at it in detail.
@KeithHeinrich
@KeithHeinrich 9 ай бұрын
I had an ax equipped bike. Brakes were woeful the pedals used to break owing to the wacky spindle arrangement. Shimano sold an adapter so regular pedals could be used which from a safety perspective was a good idea.
@ralphc1405
@ralphc1405 9 ай бұрын
And they said the Italians were MASTER over-engineering freaks! Well, there was the story of Delta brakes...
@liamblood5239
@liamblood5239 9 ай бұрын
Don't forget they make some absolutely incredible fishing gear, lots of fingers in lots of pies 😀
@OldDavo1950
@OldDavo1950 9 ай бұрын
Lets not forget that Sun Tour invented click shifting.
@AjaySadasivan-dt6tx
@AjaySadasivan-dt6tx 9 ай бұрын
I'd go for the 2011 s works, classic bike, amazing rider
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
It certainly wasn't let down by a lack of talent!
@richardcarr6493
@richardcarr6493 9 ай бұрын
l like the 7/11 most here and l own the LANCE bike too exactly like you were riding and its OCTALINK BB hollowtech came after this :) which also was the lightest bikes ever raced at 6.3kg with a downtube shifter for the frront ring and 110og tubulars mavics :)
@mileslong9675
@mileslong9675 9 ай бұрын
THANKS! FWIW, I love the look of those old classic bikes. Guess I’m just a dinosaur.
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland 9 ай бұрын
@5:59 Ollie going to have nightmares about the state of that chain
@DavidStacey-tx7on
@DavidStacey-tx7on 9 ай бұрын
Atleast Lance had the courage to admit his doping, still waiting for Wiggins, Froome, Indurain, Eddy, Contador, Vinegard, Kuss. The list goes on
@CatManDoSocial
@CatManDoSocial 9 ай бұрын
Very nice video. I'm still running DA 7800 on my road bike and it works a treat. I'm not going to lie though, it would be nice to replace it with DA 9100 mechanical/rim brake version.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Do you think you'll ever treat yourself to an upgrade?
@CatManDoSocial
@CatManDoSocial 9 ай бұрын
@@gcnWell, let's see. I haven't gotten a pay raise in quite a while and prices and bills keep going up. So, unless something breaks, sadly, probably not anytime soon.
@Kim_Miller
@Kim_Miller 9 ай бұрын
Back in 1972 (in my early 20s) I had a bike made for me - Reynolds tubing, Suntour shifters, TA rings, Stronglight cranks, all the good stuff available here in Australia at the time. It had friction shifters on the down tube and I quickly learned to shift accurately but looked fondly at later bikes with indexed shifters. I still have that bike, now 50 years old. It's all polished up and lives in my lounge room while I'm out riding a carbon Domane with Ultegra. I sometimes wonder if I could bust out the old bike and fall back into accurate use of the old friction shifters.
@gerrymcbride6429
@gerrymcbride6429 9 ай бұрын
I often think the same thing. Whilst Di2 is wonderful and I really enjoy using it, I'm amazed by how versatile the human body is. I grew up in the 70s with Nuovo Record and a bar end shifter and could manage single or multi sprocket shifts with total accuracy, having said that I was only dealing with 5 gears then.
@nerigarcia7116
@nerigarcia7116 9 ай бұрын
That 7-Eleven bike is sweet.
@BradleyTemperley
@BradleyTemperley 9 ай бұрын
When I changed from friction to SIS downtube shifters in the late eighties it transformed my cheap components into a smooth transmission. Which was nice.
@nukedathlonman
@nukedathlonman 9 ай бұрын
I'll just say that Shimano Dura-Aced it! 😀
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
😂
@daverossflutist
@daverossflutist 9 ай бұрын
I had a DA 7100 Black groupset back in the day - so the 7900 group could not have been the first offered with black anodizng. Still, this was an entertaining review of Shimano's progress over the years.
@paulneville3346
@paulneville3346 9 ай бұрын
And another huge Dura Ace innovation was on the track with Dura Ace 10. 10mmbetween the teeth on the cogs made every thing smaller, lighter and of course more expensive
@bobbafett1971
@bobbafett1971 Ай бұрын
Considered gold standard says our sponsor shimano.
@apuldram
@apuldram 9 ай бұрын
I have Dura Ace 10-speed SIS, and love it. Almost 20 years, and no fettling with an Ultegra rear derailleur. Much more positive than STI…
@colincampbell8311
@colincampbell8311 9 ай бұрын
No mention of the broken crank arms?
@dannyfought7525
@dannyfought7525 9 ай бұрын
Dura ace is nice. My ultegra is nice. Like them both.
@paulastin944
@paulastin944 9 ай бұрын
9000 series is by far the best looking.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Its a great looking piece of kit!
@fredmcgough748
@fredmcgough748 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Isn't true Shimano came up with SiS after they took advantage of Suntours patent expiring. How come Suntour is never mentioned on bicycle tech history? They had indexing system for down tube and handle bars.
@davidrobertnewman
@davidrobertnewman 9 ай бұрын
The 7700 bottom brackets were not great in the wet. Mine started making noises after about a month. A pro mechanic told me a bunch of teams were quietly using Ultegra BBs instead. I did the swap and never had an issue. That was in 1999; I later sold the gruppo to a friend who’s still riding it today.
@arrowzfly21
@arrowzfly21 9 ай бұрын
I feel that dura ace 7800 mechanical was a bench mark should of be featured in the video. It was a group set that was spot on, and everyone wanted to ride it.
@philippbeckonert1678
@philippbeckonert1678 8 ай бұрын
Dura Ace 9000 was left out as well.
@joeyslats31
@joeyslats31 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Could make a series of it and do deep dives on Campag, Sram/sachs ect..
@JIMMYHIBBS1
@JIMMYHIBBS1 9 ай бұрын
STI was a game changer in Crits, but back in the day most people had a bike, and tinkered with it depending on events - I did the National Time Trials on my road bike with Tri-bars - and actually down tube shifters were infinitely better in this instance …
@pauldyerdyer2731
@pauldyerdyer2731 9 ай бұрын
Defo would pick Cav's Tarmac, what a weapon. Used to have a Tarmac S Works Venge and have regretted selling since.
@derickcastillo9083
@derickcastillo9083 9 ай бұрын
Greg LeMond won the Tour De France in 1986.
@davidroberts6766
@davidroberts6766 9 ай бұрын
Friction shifters…..THAT brings me back!
@danielburges8176
@danielburges8176 9 ай бұрын
Put Dura-Ace 7900 mechanical on my bike as a groupset upgrade from Tiagra and it's been wonderful ever since. Better shifting, better braking and a huge weight reduction. Looked better too.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Tiagra to Dura-ace ... That is a great jump to make 🙌
@1FeetHappy
@1FeetHappy 9 ай бұрын
recently gone back to friction shifters, has made setup much easyer
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
Yes. Using friction shifters, especially down tube, is a good skill builder.
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I do recall however the early iterations of STI's were pretty bulky, heavy and very different to the standard hoods.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Things have certainly got slimmer 👀
@alvinmanalaysay839
@alvinmanalaysay839 9 ай бұрын
Nice recap on Dura Ace. My own story from 1984 involved the Index Shifting of the 7400. I had an E.G. Bates custom bicycle made from Reynolds 753 tubing with Campy Super Record specs. When the bike was nearing completion Alan Bates asked me to stop by prior to final finish. While there he asked me to try this new "thing" Shimano had come out with; he'd built a criterium bike for his son and had used the new Dura Ace 7400 index shifting setup. The radical idea of click shifting sold me and the final bike I got was Dura Ace 7400 throughout. When I returned to the USA in 1985 none of the local bike shops had seen the new setup and it was a novelty for a while. I still have that bike, still use it from time to time. The only real change I've made is swap out the strap pedals for Speedplays and I've had to replace the 7400 crank, still a very fine ride. Unique for that time was most of the cables were internally routed, even the rear derailleur cable which snakes through the down tube, under the bottom of the BB and into the right chain stay and on out to the rear derailleur.
@davidwayland6981
@davidwayland6981 9 ай бұрын
My favourite bit of road in the world! I wonder if working on it is a joy of ruins it for these guys?
@kevp68
@kevp68 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I have a fully refurbished Raleigh Road Ace, which has the Shimano 600 AX groupset on it. It is beautifully engineered & has the same tech as the Dura Ace, It was ahead of its time
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
There is just something special about a fully restored classic! 👌 Did you do the restoration yourself?
@jeremyemilio9378
@jeremyemilio9378 9 ай бұрын
BRING BACK THE SILVER COMPONENTS!!
@chubbyman6929
@chubbyman6929 9 ай бұрын
Cool video, thanks. Looks like you could do with changing the cassette.
@perwiratempur
@perwiratempur 9 ай бұрын
Nice video! Next up, do one for all the iterations of the Dogma!
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Nice idea! In the meantime, you may like our Pinarello documentary we made on GCN+ 👉 gcn.eu/pinarellostory
@KenSmith-bv4si
@KenSmith-bv4si 9 ай бұрын
Cool video Si, didn't know Shimano invited indexing.
@dblissmn
@dblissmn 9 ай бұрын
The big thing here for my taste is the indexed gearing. I HATED as a kid having my gears slip out of position -- it put me off cycling. Had I been even a few years younger I'd have never had to encounter friction shifting. Frankly, I pretty much forgot about cycling for a long time. When I finally sprang for a modern bike in 2001 -- a hardtail mountain bike that I've mostly used as a hybrid -- it was a revelation and it put me back into cycling. The main disappointment today is the ugliness of black finishes, long derailleur cages and overly large rear cassette gears, but it's hard to argue with how well they work.
@bahoonies
@bahoonies 9 ай бұрын
I have a set of small flange Dura Ace hubs and a seat pin from the 1970s. They're black and I still use them today.
@gcn
@gcn 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! They made some good stuff back in the day!
@bahoonies
@bahoonies 9 ай бұрын
@@gcn The seat pin is on my old Harry Quinn frame which was made for me in 1973. The hubs are on my 1983 Colnago.
@ThomasAnselmi1337
@ThomasAnselmi1337 9 ай бұрын
Some could say Shimano STILL haven't quite got a power meter for Dura-Ace...still in development?
@WhatTheFlipOfficial
@WhatTheFlipOfficial 9 ай бұрын
Surprised no talk of the Dura Ace 9000, that's one of the most iconic groupset, and still very relevant today. Even lighter than current gen.
@ulrichr.487
@ulrichr.487 9 ай бұрын
100 % agreed! In my opinion a really good groupset, looks great in it's silver/black finish. I still use one on one of my bikes, still works flawlessly ( mechanical version). Shifting performance is pefect.
@WorldofColnago
@WorldofColnago 9 ай бұрын
I got the 7800c (carbon) crank on my Colnago Master Lite Rabobank. It is the only carbon crank made by Shimano.
@sillypuddystl2907
@sillypuddystl2907 9 ай бұрын
Every new bike part that comes out is “game changer“ to GCN
@Paganiproductions84
@Paganiproductions84 9 ай бұрын
The must be the marketing Gods lol lol
@guochenggang0321
@guochenggang0321 9 ай бұрын
As a matter of fact, Giro, Tour, and La Vuelta of 2023 are all won by SRAM athletes. That, in my humble opinion, is called "Domination"
@trademark1874
@trademark1874 9 ай бұрын
Best Dura Ace Groupset is missing!! 7800!!
@franzkohlack8336
@franzkohlack8336 9 ай бұрын
Schwing!!! ❤😂
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 9 ай бұрын
Still have 7700 and 7800 on my three road bikes. Still have a bunch of 7400 in my parts bin, too. I'm stuck in the past. None of my many wheels will take 11 or 12 speed. They are all 8-9-10 speed wheels. I live in a flat area, so i don't need anything more than a 25. 10 years ago, I didn't need anything more than a 23. 30 years ago, I didn't need anything more than a 21.
@filippopogacar
@filippopogacar 9 ай бұрын
I love ShiManon
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