Is Going Vegan A Game Changer For Cycling? | GCN Show Ep. 367

[@gcn]

Have you ever tried a Plant Based diet?

[@andrew66769]

@Adam Beckett "Proteins from fish, meat, animal milk ARE the 'super power' nutrions" 1 year med school btw

[@Ystadcop]

Yes. I'm an avid follower of the Irish vegan recipe vids, The Happy Pear. Their stuff is easy to make once you have the ingredients. But now I mix it.

[@ForeverLumoz]

Regularly. Not because I'm vegan, but because sometimes I just don't want to be cooking meat 😃

[@armella_life]

Is vegetarian and ultracyclist, so no problem there :D Cycled 762km in 63 hours in july 2018 on plantbased diet :D

[@Gias1]

I like meat, so no option. Also I don't store much reserves because of my body type, but I do take part in ultra distance rides. Not gonna make it more difficult then it is because of some hype.

[@andrewcunniff2593]

I've been vegan for 2 months now, and I have had constant PB's since. Great health benifits too. Also had my blood work done, and I have upped my calcium, B12 and Iron. And my protein has stayed the same and I ate a lot of meat before. I highly recommend it.

[@louisewainwright8785]

Me too - been vegan for 18 months. Bloods top end of normal,. Nurse told me they were results a 25 yr old should be proud of (I'm 46). Recovery is far better than previously. No DOMS on hard efforts.

[@erik_midtskogen]

@@louisewainwright8785 That's exactly my experience! I'm 54, and at checkups the med staff says I'm healthier than most 20-year-olds they see.

[@hanna9141]

On a plant based diet since January. Best decision of my life.

[@mikeshelton4466]

"The Loop" in Tucson AZ is a designated bike/pedestrian path that goes around the perimeter (mostly) of Tucson to make a nice 65 mile or so ride. Plus there are spurs that go off to other parts of the Tucson Metro area. Oh, and by the way, we have about 5 days per year when the weather is not good for riding.

[@steveiannazzo5451]

Cool to see a photo on GCN that's obviously part of my ride repertoire. South on the Loop - between Irvington and Valencia.

[@dblissmn]

What a fantastic looking trail. Wish they could all be engineered like that.

[@DominiqueNoelMTL]

Just came back from a week of cycling in Tucson and can confirm this is 100% accurate. Loved it.

[@nathanielmiller2606]

Add in the CDO and you can do a full century with less than 2miles on a road. Lol Hi Mike

[@jacksquat2067]

Today was one of those 5 days. 😆 Good thing I got my long ride in yesterday, about 20 miles of which was on the loop. 🚴

[@averageroadie6487]

Went vegan 16 years ago. My borderline high blood pressure went to normal. My cholesterol of almost 300 went to 88. It does have definite overall health benefits. I don't think it would make you perform better. I didn't ride before I went vegan so I can't say for sure. It won't hurt you, but I don't think you will see an increase. You may see an indirect benefit though because you tend to source more whole foods and less processed, so that will help no matter what your diet is.

[@theapplewatchtriathlete8890]

I think you hit the nail on the head. It's easier to eat a healthier more nutritious vegan diet than not - I have been vegan for 3 years and completed 2 IronMan tri's in that time - definitely helped me with recovery during training. Having said that with the growing popularity of veganism, there are more and more processed and fast foods being made available which could negate some of those nutritious benefits if you are not careful. Still you can be reasonably sure that your broccoli hasn't been injected with daily antibiotics to make it fatter quicker :)

[@jake_brewer]

Depends which cholesterol, as the human body requires cholesterol to function properly. High cholesterol isn't necessarily bad, which is a common misconception.

[@averageroadie6487]

I don't know. I don't claim to be a doctor. I just know my doctor told me mine was pretty high and I needed to do something about it.

[@glennoc8585]

@@jake_brewer two types though the good and the bad. You should include foids with good cholesterol if vegan. Nuts, olives, olive oil, avacado to name a few.

[@SuperBacDoc]

Chad Trent , total cholesterol of 88 is not healthy! Cholesterol is the pre cursor for important steroid hormones like testosterone, growth hormone and vitamin D.

[@brandennall]

Switched to plants 2 months ago. Was very hard to ride even for 40 minutes. I am now down 70lbs and rode last Saturday for 7 hours. Plant based has been amazing!

[@chrisspray8010]

2 years vegan in a lifetime of cycling. Performance over 100 miles improved by 20% last year and I’m now 47! Too much meat before - loads of veggies, whole foods and nuts now. Astonishing recovery time. Never going back to eating flesh or animal secretions.

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

love it! 3 years for me and feel the same.

[@fitafanatomy3359]

Were you eating healthy before going vegan?? Or did you go from a bad diet to a vegan diet?

[@chrisspray8010]

fitaf anatomy yes healthy diet

[@fitafanatomy3359]

@@chrisspray8010 that's good.. i felt absolutely horrible on a vegan diet. Never satiated and low libido. I think everyone's bodies are different.

[@chrisspray8010]

fitaf anatomy How long were you on a vegan diet

[@BlackWaterCyclist]

I have been plant-based for over a year now and it has definitely helped in recovery and most importantly it has built up my immune system. I also do not get that pressure in my chest when doing super hard efforts. It isn't night and day for people who exercise a lot but you will feel better quicker and be able to put in efforts for longer. Also it is easier to keep the weight off in the off-season so improvement with power to weight ratio. There is also a study that shows endurance athletes are actually more susceptible to atherosclerosis which is shocking, but the plant based diet prevents that as well so win win. Look at the Blue-Zones, almost all of them are 5% or less of animal products. That in itself should be pretty convincing for everyone. Thanks for the great videos!

[@owenhunt]

Animal protein provides a fuller body of Amino acids, however once you ditch the need for 20' biceps, the like of sclerotic accumulation in a plant-based diet is clearly superior for longevity and suppleness. I don't think people realise how upper levels of protein (60-100g) only serves a purpose for professional athletes. Most people will simply accumulate bodily baggage by flying so close to the sun. Getting a full profile of AA's is really hard unless you have seaweed, whey powder or lentils in abundance, this is not easy. For plant-based diets to evolve from fad diets or niche-eties, I think supermarkets which prioritise the efflux of such products needs to take a hold in the UK the way whole foods has in America.

[@michass]

This week on GCN: vegan diet is a game changer! Last week on GCN: hey let's cook this lamb over fire!

[@freewheels7544]

Comment of the week right here

[@jochem1986]

Don’t worry, the lamb was dead prior to the cooking.

[@mellowplace]

Diversity!

[@matthewlewis2072]

And next week's fad is...plant-based bikepacking! (Sh, don't call it touring!)

[@obidavekenobe]

So is a vegan diet or ketogenic diet better? The science could be polarizing.

[@lifeafterlon]

Anecdote incoming: Vegan cycling 4 years from 3.2 w/kg to 5.2 w/kg hour-power at my peak thus far. Plants have leaned me out and allowed me to gain power.

[@OldSlow]

Bullshit Ash, constant focus on nutriants eaten and exersice has led you there. Being vegan is irrelevant.

[@jaakkovuori9616]

@@OldSlow I'm sure veganism probably wasn't the game-changer, but considering the level of discussion on veganism in other sports, I'm glad to hear that veganism isn't hindering physical activity.

[@OldSlow]

@@jaakkovuori9616I agree, but interesting that what most vegans want you to know about them when you meet, is what they eat.. gets old..

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

@@OldSlow maybe you feel guilty for funding animal abuse?

[@vsausageonabike7232]

@@OldSlow I would say from my experience its exactly the opposite, people are interested and often ask what i eat, its not information i would just tell someone if they didnt ask, that would seem a bit weird.

[@rawveganperformance]

Some facts from my experience after 5 years vegan: before my FTP was 4,2 W/Kg, with "normal" healthy diet. Two months training on road bike vegan I got to 4,6. With a 90 % raw vegan diet, BMI of lower 21, I almost reached 5 W/Kg in my peak phase. Before I rode BMX for 15 years, almost professional, 4 hours a day in my early years, so those numbers are easy to explain (over all just 15.000k on the road bike). But the main fact about all is: you have to do everything you can to get some percent of improvement long term over the years. Without a basic fundament of training and nutritional experience it surely doesn´t work for most of the people. It´s a long road to go, to have a cleaner, lighter body, with more performance.

[@erik_midtskogen]

I've been getting more into raw, as well. It's a nice addition to my diet tool box. The challenge for me with raw is absorbing enough carbs. When I eat raw, I can feel my digestion working harder to get through it. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily, but if I'm in the middle of a big training block, I need massive carbs that I can absorb without my digestion having to do too much extra work for it. My raw vegan guru keeps pushing fats on me, which would be fine if I weren't doing burning 1200 calories a day in training. But there's only so much fat from nuts and avocados I can take in any given meal. Without my steel-cut oats in the morning and brown rice at lunch, I'd have a hard time getting enough fuel to power my workouts and races.

[@06cdancer]

All I'd say is don't be scared of carbs, LOAD UP. I minimise my fat intake but usually have at least 400g of carbs per day (depending on how long I'm riding). I went front struggling to recover to do 100m a week, to doing 250m a week without any recovery issues.

[@durianriders]

100% there is a boost in performance when people take my vegan diet protocol onboard. Why? 1. Blood volume goes up 2. Body fat goes down 3. Iron and b12 go up 4. Insulin sensitivity goes up 5. Muscle glycogen goes up. Most vegan diets will have you floored on the ground because they are carb deficient and contain too much fat. Fat blunts insulin sensitivity and causes red blood cell aggregation. I applaud Nigel for being open minded and backing vegan options. Thing is though he has never done epic rides so doesnt understand how the body feels on either dietary choices. He can only go with what he reads vs what is personally experienced. That is common for people who go to university.

[@freshpi100]

I feel sooo good since going plant-based/vegan. I sleep better, my skin cleared up and overall my performance in cycling and running increased. I really can recommend trying it out at least for two weeks or a month. If you don't like it you just can go back, so.. nothing to loose.

[@GuntherL1]

Nearly every diet will work short term. Long term is a different thing for vegans. There are plenty of testimonies on KZbin.

[@hollohullu9448]

but were you on an equally strict diet before going plant-based?

[@freshpi100]

@@hollohullu9448 I wouldn't call my plant based diet strict. I just eat what I like and that's often vegetables but I also eat pizza and burger from time to time. Before that, my diet also wasn't to bad, I already ate a lot of vegetables and nearly no sweets and junk food.

[@freshpi100]

@@GuntherL1 I'm plant based for five years now. And there are also a lot of positive testimonials on KZbin from vegans who eat like that for many decades. ;)

[@freshpi100]

My goal is not to force or convince other people to go vegan/plant-based. Just want to share my experience.

[@kimkrimson]

Si's smirk at Dan's extreme bunny hopping skills definitely qualified him for a cyclocross barrier hoping challenge with Mr Powers :)

[@paullferguson]

Note: Abdullah Zeinab won the 2019 Trans Am vegan so I'm convinced it's perfectly compatible with even ultra racing

[@nicolemitsi]

He didn't win it.... He DESTROYED it. :)

[@paullferguson]

Nicole Mitsi was wild to watch! Hope he’s doing some racing this year

[@plantpoweredhealth9383]

He won Indipac as a vegan and so did Jacob Fryatt as a vegan. There's actually even more athletes that are vegan than first thought, James Wilks from the Game Changers said some athletes not in the film wanted to keep it to themselves to avoid the drama or avoid their competitors knowing their competitive edge.

[@durianriders]

Abdullah isnt the average vegan diet. He follows my protocol. I remember people laughing at me for being seen with him back in 2014 when he would ride around in a skater helmet and cut off trackies. He was such a DR fan he got rice and sugar tattooed into his shoulders. He can eat more refined sugar than anyone Ive met and his riding endurance demonstrates it.

[@durianriders]

@@nicolemitsi who got him into riding and vegan life? Hbu?

[@StanislavGrabchev]

It is, absolutely. My best ftp power at 5w/kg is because of high carb vegan food and i am planning this year to be 5.5w/kg. Lean AF. Lots of energy, no stimulants throughout the day. Game changer is the least I can say!

[@DanThemes]

How do you know vegan food is the reason for it? You might have had a bad diet prior to going vegan. There is a reason no World Tour pro cyclist is vegan. (don't mention Froome, he won the Tour while eating meat).

[@andrew66769]

@@DanThemes because if you actually believe in science its obvious... lol

[@okimy3668]

Daniel Sarmas There are a few vegan WT pros, Simon Geschke for example. But I do agree that getting enough of the right nutrients is all that matters. How you get that is up to you.

[@DanThemes]

@@andrew66769 Very informative response, I learned a lot. Thanks.

[@StanislavGrabchev]

@@DanThemes You probably haven't heard Adam Hansen... but google him. He is an absolute legend. My diet wasn't bad prior, but it was a just breakthrough in performance for me after I went. I've been training with people having same performance and same workload ant they are no where near me. The improvement was also really fast. I am just stating my experience for the question asked, if it is possible.

[@thecheshirecat5564]

Adam Hansen is vegan. Just sayin'. In the hope you have him on the channel again. Because he's awesome.

[@Jason__D]

Check today's gcn tech video ;)

[@Frankiez220]

Adam Hansen knows too then. Read The China Study, How not to Diet, Farmageddon......

[@Boneles79]

Simon Geschke is also vegan ;)

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

So I think the gist is to go unprocessed vegetarian, and add a really small amount of animal meat , milk cheese etc to get the required 80g of protein or what ever it is a day, Meat used to be a rare luxury for many people. Still trying to work out how to incorporate snickers bar into this though !

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

it's super easy to get your protein from just plants, I have been vegan 3 years and I'm 50 with perfect blood tests

[@rrosomasa]

it's easier to incorporate snickers bars if you have the ice cream bar version ;)

[@FreakHarryPotter]

Try Vego bars! They're a vegan milk chocolate with hazelnuts and they outdo snickers any day, plus they're fair trade. Most importantly, they're kind to the animals but there are also loads of other vegan milk chocolates with nuts. D'you know about what happens in the dairy industry? Are you against animal cruelty?

[@petermwheeler]

Cycle 20 minutes then eat the snickers guilt free, am I missing something?

[@FreakHarryPotter]

@@petermwheeler but is a snickers really guilt free? Are you against animal cruelty?

[@JeffOehlsen]

Australia, we love you ! You have my best wishes and prayers for a speedy recovery from your nightmare.

[@puetzranch]

A diet of minimally processed food, is the most healthy. If going plant based, reduces body fat, you will be faster. You can also reduce body fat on a meat based diet too.

[@Spracker]

%99 of animal products consumed by humans are factory farmed, those animal products are full of antibiotics and hormones, do you consider that to be "minimally processed"?

[@puetzranch]

@@Spracker we have a farm and the meat from our cattle is 100% non-processed. But even the traditional farming methods' meat (which have nothing to do with a factory), is not full of antibiotics and hormones. That is just anti-meat propaganda. We believe our methods are superior, but the other methods are perfectly healthy and yes, minimally processed.

[@Spracker]

@@puetzranch %95 of the meat consumed in the USA is factory farmed. The %5 of meat that americans eat that doesn't come from factory farming is just about statistically irrelevant. The idea that a person can consume only non factory farmed animal products is a fairytale. FWIW, I live in the mountains and there are plenty of small ranches here, and when the snow melts in the spring I ride my bike by them and I see thousands of gallons of cow sewage that has accumulated all winter flowing directly into a once pristine mountain river. %90 of the Snake River Aquifer, one of the largest in Idaho, has now been contaminated by the dairy industry, how does that get uncontaminated? Even if you do supposedly product hormone/antibiotic free meat there is still the ecological nightmare of animal production that is more than enough of a reason to say no to meat.

[@Nojikuzus]

Working towards seriously towards dramatically reducing my meat intake

[@duschinger]

Go for it. Don't stress yourself out too much, slow and steady wins the race. Take your time to find a new normal.

[@FreakHarryPotter]

Why not just go vegan? You honestly won't regret it and, most importantly, neither will the animals!

[@owenhunt]

@@FreakHarryPotter We need dietary agendas to achieve these ends. Soy protein causes vasoconstriction, whereas lentils, nuts almonds and quinoa resist it. It's all hard. I want the V-genda to win but sublimating yourself to a vegan diet long-term is not easy.

[@duschinger]

@@owenhunt i can't find this soy protein claim in a replicable study. I assumed you meant soy protein isolate, which indeed is not too great, since it may act as a tumor growth gene in rare cases. But, in those I found, it actually lowered blood pressure. Still, if you need a takeaway, don't focus on single ingredients in your diet, rather on the big picture: loads of whole plant foods, legumes, whole grains, nuts and seeds. Even if a single ingredient might potentially cause an undesirable outcome on its own, you're still doing LOADS better than on the standard american/european diet. Fun fact: only ~3% of the population reaches the minimal necessary amount of fiber (30g). Try focussing on that. Studies found that focussing on Fiber, instead of 12 parameters like salt, meat...., subjects reached higher fibre goals and also did great on those other parameters just by default.

[@owenhunt]

@@duschinger Fibre obviously improves bodily absorption of all nutrients. How to achieve this is something I believe requires plenty of rice, oat, pasta and leaf consumption. I'm guessing 500g of kale is still only about 20g of fibre. As for soy protein, if I remember the substance breaks down like a synthetic rubber, rather than being chunky like the fibrous texture of chicken or turkey. Therefore trace amounts of soy can really clog the arteries over a lifetime. It's a very popular warning about soy protein that consumption is associated with arterial hardening.

[@SuperZELDAK]

James Wilks is promoting a WHOLE FOOD plant based diet. That whole rant about the vegan sausage roll was a bit pointless really. James stays to his word the whole time and uses peer reviewed scientific studies that back every single point up. These aren’t claims and you can see him prove it even further on the Joe Rogan podcast where James debunks Chris Kressers lies and claims 😂 come back after that and then say James is just making ‘claims’😂

[@F1awless]

The game changers is heavily biased and the "science" to backup the claims is heavily cherry picked and based largely on extremely weak correlations observed in epidemiological studies (glorified surveys with numerous confounding factors and inherent limitations). While at a surface level it seems convincing the evidence is non existent, just as stated by GCNs guest. James Wilks bullied Chris Kresser and character assassinated him however he didn't prove any of the core claims / insinuations about animal products that were in the film. Finally, the victories that he clung on to, such as B12 were also flawed. James cited a study to support the assertion that humans can obtain sufficient B12 from unwashed vegetables, the study actually showed that a population obtained sufficient B12 because they grew vegetables in night soil (human manure). The human body produces B12 in the digestive tract which we cannot absorb, unless we eat our own faeces as above, or eat animal products, or supplement. These are the types of references the game changers relies on.

[@EvertBorghgraef]

The downtube folds 90 degrees outwards, you can see the links on either end of the tube. The seatpost can then be locked in place into either end of these 90 degree pieces, giving it enough space around the pole. So to dissasemble: take out the seat post and reinstall, fold the two downtube pieces back in and reconnect in the middle.

[@dlear85]

Been plant based 6 years, im no super athlete but i dont really train like one either. I dont feel any better or worse really . Just normal

[@dlear85]

@Pieter Jan Zijlstra 95% is whole foods. Have the odd pizza or burger etc meat free ofc

[@06cdancer]

Smash in the carbs and make sure your drinking enough water. I average 500g of carbs per day and drink enough water so my urine comes out clear every couple of hours.

[@scsdrummer]

I believe that a vegan diet would help all riders if even only on a micro level. The only time it wouldn’t help is if the rider has an extreme low intake of dairy and meat already. Dairy and meat puts fat into the blood which hinders oxygen and nutrients from getting into the cells. By the way, this is coming from a person that loves dairy and meat.

[@FreakHarryPotter]

Are you against animal cruelty? Are you aware of what happens in the cow's breast milk, egg and animal flesh industries?

[@judycarlsen7707]

Vegan for 3 years. Low Carb for the last 6+ years. Health and performance as a senior LC athlete has improved dramatically over the years as LC well fat adapted athlete. (Judy’s husband writing this).

[@johnmendoza7324]

Do you find it being low carb vegan? I am lo carb vegetarian and takes a lot of thought I would have thought vegan locarb would be very hard

[@FreakHarryPotter]

@@johnmendoza7324, why not just go low-carb vegan? Are you aware of what happens in the egg and dairy industries?

[@johnmendoza7324]

The Vegan Potterhead are you aware I am looking for practical advice not preaching

[@FreakHarryPotter]

@@johnmendoza7324, I'm not preaching, I'm just asking if you knew. Are you against animal cruelty?

[@Jeff-bd4gg]

The Vegan Potterhead its comments like yours that turn people off form vegans.

[@swanauto47]

I’ve been cycling vegan for over 2 years, I feel much of an improvement 👍🏼

[@gregmitchell6062]

But what was your diet before?

[@velocirapture89]

I think the "best" diet is like 80-85% plant-based. I think it's always good to source your food from whole food, but by no means do I decry eating meat.

[@markmarlatt1105]

There is a named Abel James who does a paleo-ish diet. He interviewed for his podcast, Rich Roll who is a vegan ultra endurance athlete and they pretty much agreed on 70% of there diets being the same.

[@SuperZELDAK]

Austin Benesh and why do you come to this conclusion? I’m assuming you have researched peer reviewed scientific studies that say and agree with this correct?

[@Spracker]

@@SuperZELDAK Of course he hasn't, he just doesn't want to eat food his peers don't eat.

[@Jeff-bd4gg]

Olly Moors do you read peer reviewed scientific journals for every morsel you consume? What about each and every product you buy and their unlimited nuances? How about every action you make. Nope, stfu. Sheesh, what vegans can’t see is how self righteous you can be

[@freewheels7544]

#captioncompetition Caption : "take a interview with gcn they said" , "they have a little fun chalenge for you" they said

[@erobertson1417]

No mention of reducing animal suffering. To me that’s the biggest reason to eat a vegan diet.

[@lisapet160]

Lots of animals are suffering by beind displaced from the ever expanding broccoli fields and from entrapping and poisoning by plant farmers.

[@MarkRoss-y3t]

​@@lisapet160 I know this comment is 4 years old but it's not clear whether or not animals suffer less in wild land compared to cropland. Maybe converting wild land to crop land actually reduces wild animal suffering.

[@showlowitsqueentlee2737]

Yay Tucson. That is a designated bike route, and it's 130 miles long.

[@gcn]

It looks fantastic. Dan

[@GNiessen]

So Dan came in 10th. After watching the speed at which he bunny hops, I am guessing that the number finishing in his category were ... 10? Just kidding, I probably would have trouble stepping over the barrier after a couple of laps.

[@Broseidon77]

Cycling is one of the few sports where performance isn't completely ruined by a plant based diet. Carbs are relatively easy to get from plant based foods. Plenty of other athletes tried a plant based diet then immediately had to switch back because of performance decline.

[@igorvalko7368]

In short term you will feel unreal without meat. But after few months it is very crucial to make sure you are replacing all important nutrients otherwise you'll blow up. Also depends how hard and how many hours a week you train. Stay smart and experiment with yourself. Listen to your body 😉

[@mrblue.tit.8906]

Does that happen after a few months or years? Still waiting to feel the strain of veganism

[@cyclehavenbanks9851]

Yes had that experience too, you really got to look at your nutrient intake much more carefully but its possible to do properly I think you definitely need to take a b12 and calcium supplement for the most part. Need to have lentils and beans plenty to get adequate protein (depends on what you think is adequate)

[@xmeatlessx]

I’ve been vegan over 20 years and I’m still really slow and unfit so draw your own conclusion.

[@toomuch9762]

Mikey Brenndorfer well done for being honest. Veganism has made a lot of enemies through lies and bs and unfounded claims. I have family members and friends who are vegan and even they don’t get why so many have to make up lies and try and force the issue on people. Yes it does make a difference to some people but from experience most of those people had terrible diets prior to going vegan. If you already had a healthy balanced diet beforehand then going vegan isn’t going to make much of a difference athletically speaking

[@xmeatlessx]

@@toomuch9762 oh absolutely eh. I'm a nurse with a master's in health practice, so I really like good science, and the tendency for vegans to rely on fake or junk science is deeply embarrassing.

[@toomuch9762]

Mikey Brenndorfer I know people who have considered going vegan but have been put off by all the misinformation and vegan propaganda. These people are doing more harm than good for the vegan cause. I mean it should be enough to become vegan from an ethical standpoint. There’s no need to push it in peoples faces, it doesn’t need it. It promotes itself

[@vsausageonabike7232]

@@toomuch9762 I'd say there is far more misinformation from animal industries, thats not to say there isnt misinformation from both sides. you should give vegan22.com a try and see if you notice any difference.

[@Spracker]

@@xmeatlessx How does science disprove the ethical burden of eating animals? If the slaughter of animals was actually humane in any way, why wouldn't the "ranchers" be releasing the footage of the slaughter of the animals instead of animal rights activists? It's cute that you've supposedly been vegan for 20 years, but your inability to comprehend the misery that humans inflict on animals is disappointing...

[@devacore477]

Thanks, GCN! I would just like to point out that Veganism is much more than a diet, it is a lifestyle and philosophy. I agree with the nutritionist, getting the correct nutrients is critical no matter what diet you're on. From my experience and over the long term, a plant-based diet is a much healthier, ethical option. Go Vegan!

[@jaridelval9058]

I am plant based for 3 weeks ( 2nd january) , I started the diet after watching ' the game changers'. I have lost a few pounds already. And feel more energetic, maybe it's just mental but it feels good!

[@andrew66769]

Could very well be mental. But depending on what your eating it could be really normal. Keep it up!

[@esler1209]

Jari Delval just make sure to keep calorie consumption the same or higher than what you were originally eating.

[@andrew66769]

@@esler1209 agreed, thats a huge mistake alot of people make.

[@Jack-cu7rl]

a question for bike commuters, is it worth it for a 30minute ride and then having to spend 15mins cleaning yourself?

[@lisapet160]

Yes, although if possible, just run for 60 mins or take a bus. Stay away from the curb in latter case: splashes don't select who's godd and who's not.

[@TheMurmuringGolem]

Important qualifyer on the study: people would prefer to cycle to work in PORTLAND rather than teleport. I for one would much rather cycle through Portland than the centre of London on a Monday morning!

[@ossilong]

Netflix and credibility. You can only pick one.

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

it wasn't a netflix movie

[@The_Boycie]

@@clydea.hutchisoniv5742 What wasnt?

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

@@The_Boycie the gamechangers wasn't made by netflix

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

@@The_Boycie it's a movie

[@wednesday382]

I think those lines are blurred a bit. You can watch the movie on Netflix, take it with a grain of salt, do your own research and then decide if it's best for you personally. I don't think you can take that movie and it be the end all, be all of your research but it is an easily accessible resource that raises some interesting points on what a plant based diet could do for you.

[@jondavies9909]

The down tube breaks in half (which seems like a terrible idea) and becomes the top and bottom arms of the lock, the main bar of the lock is the seatpost which looks huge and which is slotted back in and secured with a quick-release. Looks like a neat solution if the down tube is in fact safe to ride in 2 pieces and if you don't really care about your wheels being half inched.

[@fabianirsara9846]

Going vegan is a game changer for anyone that’s been eating animal based foods. It’s our default. It’s what we were meant to eat. The occasional steak in worst case scenarios when proper nutrition is not around won’t kill you, but it’s definitely not a healthy long term choice. There’s more than enough scientific evidence (by non meat and dairy industry lobbyists) pointing towards plant based diets being the healthiest thing you can do to your body.

[@sarafletcher8420]

You guys have to promote this book during the lockdown! People have more time to try a new approach to their nutrition right now. I saw a huge boost in cycling recovery and performance by even going vegetarian!

[@larsborghouts8360]

Caption: At their press conference, Trek Segafredo announced that each world champion on the team will from now on have a personal Umpa Lumpa domestique.

[@mikesimms1]

If given the choice, I would not teleport. Not because I don't want to get to my destination quickly, but because a teleportation machine is really just a murder machine combined with a cloning machine. In other words, you are killed and an identical copy of you is created at your destination. I think I'll take my bike.

[@Spracker]

But, if you pay people to murder animals so you have the calories needed to ride your bike, you are a hypocrite!

[@andrewmeyer2300]

The Cycling Inspiration in Tucson, Arizona, yay!! It’s The Loop, a dedicated, paved cycling path, over 100 km. I ride that stretch 2-3 times a week! Also, just off to the left is the Fantasy Island MTB Trail system!!!

[@steveiannazzo5451]

Me too!

[@SwiCyc]

Regarding the saddle lock. There are clearly visible movable joints on the downtube parts, so I think you can put the downtube back together once the saddle is removed. I think this is genious!

[@ryanbrink1358]

Thought it looked familiar, mighta been a kickstarter awhile back. yerkabikes.com/us/

[@KiwiBigfoot]

Vegan 5.5+ years and loving it! Would never look back!!!

[@SirPhillyLeong]

I hope you're taking calcium supplements.

[@KiwiBigfoot]

Phillip Leong no need, we get it from plants. My blood tests prove that

[@SirPhillyLeong]

@@KiwiBigfoot Calcium from dairy and calcium from plants get absorbed differently. Plant-based calcium is also in much lower concentrations than dairy. You would need a kilogram of leafy greens for your daily intake and sadly even non-vegans have trouble getting enough calcium. That is only the recommended minimum too.

[@KiwiBigfoot]

Phillip Leong fruit and veges give you enough. Again, my blood tests prove so for well over half a decade now

[@SirPhillyLeong]

@@KiwiBigfoot Calcium in your blood does not show if you are absorbing it efficiently and you won't know till 30 years later when you break a hip in your 70-80's. I work with the elderly and the only people without Osteo issues are those with high dairy intake.

[@robsprimallife]

I agree with getting enough whole food veggies. My clients also experienced huge improvements when they increased their protein intake and quality, to do this without adding a huge amount of food I used high-quality animal proteins, its about quality when it comes to food. Protein recommendations are based on high quality complete and bioavailable protein. Eating whole quality foods is the key not processed junk.

[@vadicus]

I live a quarter mile from where that pic of the loop in Tucson was taken. And yes, it's a 53.9 mile bike path that takes you all around the city. See you at El Tour de Tucson, GCN.

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

omg i'm jealous

[@rrosomasa]

someone else said is 130 miles long

[@vadicus]

@@rrosomasa 53.9 is the main loop. webcms.pima.gov/government/the_loop/ There's a combined total of like 130 miles of paths, but there is only one actual circuit around the city, at 53.9 miles

[@dombower]

Game changers. If it can make a bunch of cyclists ditch the bacon sandwich for a fruit smoothie, it will have done wonders to the cycling performance of every cyclist.

[@toomuch9762]

A number of those “high profile” athletes in game changers are currently and have served bans for PED use. So I think that says a lot about that movie and its legitimacy

[@SuperZELDAK]

A lot of omnivore athletes are serving bans too. Game changers isn’t saying they are clean athletes?? The science used is from peer reviewed studies backed by hundreds of scientists. Don’t go throwing your opinion in on something that you haven’t thought through properly my friend!!

[@iknownothing-m8c]

@@SuperZELDAK The science is misrepresented in the "documentary" though. Nothing wrong with the science in the peer reviewed journals. Also, using PED's help the body train harde, recover better and build more muscles; I.e the one thing that people say is a problem with a vegan diet. Almost confirms that claim to be honest.

[@andrew66769]

So you're telling me that these athletes who are going vegan have a past of doing things to get an advantage? Interesting.

[@toomuch9762]

altandrew haha the first sign of when someone has lost an argument when they start off saying “so your telling me” 😂😂😂😂 it written down in black and white what I said. But hey I understand you have a hard time grasping facts. Your straw man argument is hilarious. Here’s the explanation in case you don’t know what that is “A strawman argument is where you do not argue the other person's point, rather you construct a "strawman" and argue against that instead. "So you're saying" is an attempt to re-frame what was said, in order to argue against a different position than what was actually argued. This is actually a sales technique.”

[@andrew66769]

the first sign of when someone has lost an argument is when they call a question a strawman argument. asking a question isnt an argument brainlet. especially a question you avoided answering.

[@georgenissen7985]

Hack/Bodge - Self lock Bike the bottom tube splits in two with and hinges at 90-deg, the the inner seat tube forms a bridge with presumably some way of locking it at the bottom.

[@jonathanzappala]

I put a plastic bag over my saddle when it was raining, I never thought the rear drivetrain as important enough for one.

[@CandCForsyth]

I won! Where should I send my info to get my bidon?

[@heliumtrophy]

Probably Facebook.

[@gcnracing]

Hi Colin. Send us a message on Facebook with your address. Dan

[@sudduthjonathan]

Finally some common sense about food. It’s not the foods that you don’t eat that make you healthy, it’s the foods you do eat. The benefits come from getting enough of the right stuff, assuming a healthy, balanced approach and appropriate calorie levels. Everyone knows eating a lot of plant based foods is best for you. Who would argue with that? So say I eat plant based but then at each meal throw in a slice of cheese, an egg, or maybe some chicken at dinner. I’m just as healthy, if not more so, then the person who cuts these foods out altogether.

[@freewheels7544]

Wait , we are doing drawings now , oh boy oh boy , here I come

[@dbpantani]

See Chris Kresser's extensive rebuttal of Game Changer claims on Joe Rogan . The debate really gets going when GC producer gives an extensive reply.

[@MasteringGrappling]

Going vegan saved me from cancer. It’s real. I was a former pro athlete and can vouch for the vegan lifestyle all day long. It’s brought me back to health.

[@l0gphroe]

How do you know it saved you from cancer? Guess you never had cancer, right? I have a theory though. You stopped eating meat and therefore began to eat more variated foods with more vitamins and minerals. That's not to say that meat are bad for you. That's just a side effect of filling your body with other really vital things.

[@FreakHarryPotter]

@@l0gphroe, are you against animal cruelty?

[@l0gphroe]

@@FreakHarryPotter??? What's your point?

[@FreakHarryPotter]

@@l0gphroe, I'm just asking if you're ok with being cruel to animals or not, as that's a non-vegan lifestyle and we don't need to do it? Also, I think that saying that somebody never had cancer is quite offensive. It's scientifically proven that plant-based diets do reverse cancer. Given that it's kind to animals, kinder to the planet and kinder to our health, is there a justification to not live vegan?

[@lisamo1013]

@@FreakHarryPotter please link a reputable source on that claim

[@lexistential]

as a cycling commuter, i also wish car commuters would teleport to work

[@garethgwatkin7149]

Love it, talking about veganism while sitting on a leather settee.

[@jackworthing]

nah, you're confusing an (vegan) ethical approach and GCN's performance driven veganism ;)

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

It's important to understand that all of this guy's qualifying remarks "assuming they're not deficient" also applies to people pushing vegan. The first critical thing to do is to figure out how well your "structured" diet is addressing your current needs and objectives. Very few people are ready to state unequivocally that they are ready to experience gains by going all vegan. Better to keep very detailed records of your current current diet (and 24*7 exertion tracking) and then try to calculate deficiencies by lab tests and looking at performance changes from work sessions, like like changes in your HR curve relative to power curve when you test incremental changes in your structured diet. Getting branched-chain amino acids right, and critically, the timing of ingestion, should probably be the number one goal. The main reason is that if you get your BCAAs optimized (and hydrate properly) your appetite will help you feel your way to the next thing to test. You might not need to change anything else. Only then should you care about whether you're eating "meat" for breakfast or beans, or whey protein in your coffee (if not a mix from all of the above), or whatever. Casually throwing around terms like "vegan" leads people away from finding out wise, testable changes. The question itself "Is going vegan a game changer?" is mendacious demagoguery.

[@russstarke6004]

It is now one of my life goals to hug Si.

[@Muppetkeeper]

As a person with asthma and chronic sinusitis, both of which are inflamatory diseases, I started a plant based diet five days ago, immediately after having seen the programme. Obviously it's much to early to see any benefit, but I'll give it a month and see what happens.

[@DanThemes]

The fact that veganism is better than the Standard American Diet is NOT impressive at all, any diet is better than the S.A.D. diet. I am unaware of any studies that indicate veganism to be better than a plant-based diet which also includes lean meat. Saying that all meat is unhealthy is embarrassing and indicative of being lead by an ideology rather than the truth.

[@thekeytoairpower]

The down tube splits and folds out to the left in lock mode. It folds back and reconnects in the middle for ride mode.

[@fernandomelo2421]

This was made by a company called Yerka, I think they are now defunct. Here is an article about them from Fast Company: www.fastcompany.com/3034758/this-ingenious-bike-doubles-as-its-own-lock

[@andrew66769]

will avoiding foods that cause heart disease help you in a cardiovascular sport? thats a tough one.

[@phillycheesetake]

Food doesn't cause heart disease.

[@andrew66769]

@@phillycheesetake the american heart association disagrees with you. But you know more than them, right?

[@MattLamPiano]

@@phillycheesetake Lol it does. It's caused by plaque buildup thickens and stiffens artery walls, which can inhibit blood flow through your arteries to your organs and tissues, and guess what high cholesterol does just that

[@phillycheesetake]

@@andrew66769 Bad diet and no exercise correlates with heart disease, but food does not cause heart disease, and the American Heart Association doesn't claim it does.

[@phillycheesetake]

@@MattLamPiano Dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol are different things. Someone with a high-cholesterol diet who exercises will have lower blood cholesterol than someone in the opposite position. Cholesterol is the new salt. Everyone in the 90's was afraid of eating too much salt, for no reason whatsoever.

[@ccamire]

Vegan diets maybe popular but there is a difference between ethical and nutrition 1) plant-based diets (PBD) usually involved high carbs and eventually leads to insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome, do your lab test to understand the real picture 2) healthy is not defined by body size but rather markers such as inflammation (CRP), blood cells count, insulin resistance, cholesterol levels (TG and HDL, LDL is not an important biomarker), blood pressure and heart rate (including heart variability) are better indicators of health. 3) PBD need to supplement because they lack the bioavailability of nutrients (b12, omega3 EPA and DHA, vitamin K2,), etc… 4) With PBD you need to use the bathroom more often because of the huge volume of food and have a slower recovery post exercise 5) with PBD you can lose weight but there are enough health issues that may arise, just watch ex-vegan on youtube 6) with PBD you need to eat more often to survive/perform on the bike, if you eat meat you can eat 1-2x/day, you save money and time 7) with PBD, you can expect lower testerone levels 8) with PBD bone health is weaker than meat based 9) eating the new ultra-processed lab products based on soybean oil and processed with chemicals added with 20 other ingredients, not sure of the long term results, they have done any The list is too long and I want plant based before, now I have recovered my health with meat All these points are supported by science, do you own due diligence

[@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles]

Get ready for the avalanche of angry comments 🤷🏻‍♂️🌱🌱

[@andrew66769]

@UCx6Cxdw8ko2BXmNknvhszNg yea and how dare the people in the 1800s who disturbed members of the public over slavery, just trying to enjoy some shopping for new workers. how dare they! who do these people think they are? activists or something? oh look, he deleted his comment. what a surprise.

[@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles]

altandrew plant based cyclist here to clarify 😉. I was referring to the non stop controversial arguments since the Game Changer docu came out

[@andrew66769]

@@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles I know. My comment wasnt meant towards you. Someone replied to you with said hate comment and I responded back. Then they quickly deleted it haha.

[@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles]

altandrew I know, I was trying to reply but couldn’t find it. I am not taking sides either to be honest. I know I feel great and no leaving sentient beings need to suffer for me to feel great and ride my bike, that’s all😉. The controversy is just a bit silly in my view. Glad GCN has touched on the topic, even though just on the surface. Things are changing.

[@SwiCyc]

I'd prefer to teleport to and from work, because of all the dangers in the commuting traffic. Spend the time saved on bike paths, quiet roads and picturesque landscapes. Also saves the time used for showering, clothes changing, etc.

[@MikkelStaunsholm]

Pretty happy that I could skip through the 5 minute book commercial...

[@andrewchalke1078]

I teleported home one night With Ron and Sid and Meg. Ron stole Meggie's heart away And I got Sidney's leg. (Thank you, Douglas Adams)

[@jheichelbech]

Compelling case if you don't understand nutrition science and the scientific method.

[@plantpoweredhealth9383]

There's not just the performance perspective for being plant based. There is less disease risk overall for cancer,heart disease and diabetes as a vegan whether whole foods or junk. I've been vegan 8 years after 39 years omni. I've noticed better recovery, no longer get occasional food poisoning from chicken etc as well as no longer suffering from the flu, pretty much from every year to now once every 3 or 4 years. Better digestion and toilet times too..😆. I think eat as much plants as you can, the sustainability of the planet and animals will appreciate it too, limit animal products to like the Blue Zones were known to eat. I bought the Plant Based Cycling book and agree with 95% of it. Disagree with humans thriving as ultimate omnivore (they can survive not thrive on any diet TBH), dogs and bears are true omnivores. Also mentioned potatoes as a refined carb...only when turned into chips with oil and salt.

[@thomwessel3620]

Caption: "I'm not Mads at you, I'm just disaPedersented"

[@sdbowyer]

The split down tube bike lock is something on Kickstarter, the down tube splits and then locks back into place

[@alexk3806]

Just go vegan for 12 weeks and see for yourselves

[@davidgeorge9233]

I stopped eating meat and dairy in November 2018 and my average ride power went up considerably in 2019, however my dietary choices didn't stop me doing a bit too much and getting fatigued come the Autumn. One benefit to a plant based diet is that I found it helps you to think about your intake of nutrients a bit more, something I never did when I ate meat and dairy. I would challenge anyone thinking about it (or questioning Veganism) to watch "Dominion" movie on KZbin (Narrated by Joaquin Phoenix), if you can watch that and still want to eat meat and dairy then I would be very surprised, it was the single biggest thing that swayed me towards a Vegan diet and I am much more comfortable knowing I don't contribute to the untold suffering of animals on a daily basis. It is a bonus that due to my choices I am still able to thrive on the bike.

[@FreakHarryPotter]

YES!! Thank you!! All the comments about the health, which is kind of selfish, and none about the animals until I read this. Thanks.

[@davidgeorge9233]

@@FreakHarryPotter You're welcome :)

[@paolocapozzi927]

You want a reason to go vegan? The ENVIRONMENT!!!!!!!

[@memofromessex]

I eat a plant-based diet, I'm not cultist - most people would benefit from eating much more wholefoods, unprocessed plant foods. Too many people are overweight because they eat too many calorific animal products and they'd benefit hugely to switching to a mostly plant-based diet

[@KeithFlint350]

Q: What can bo more useless than a video about mounting a bottle cage? A: A video about becoming vegan

[@ebirch90]

With the increased popularity of gravel riding, what science is there on dust inhalation? How do buffs compare to a standard N95 mask?

[@rw62195]

I'm not sure of any studies that focus on gravel cycling, but I believe there are some that deal with exposures to traffic exhaust for commuters. Dust and other particle inhalation and it's risks have been extensively studied, especially in occupational settings. Dust particles tend to range from 1-100 microns in diameter; an N95 mask will filter out 95% of particles that are 0.3 microns, while a bandanna or buff will filter out only the largest particles. A study comparing them found that an N95 mask was 89.6% efficient at filtering particles with a median diameter of 1.6 uM while a bandanna was 11.3% efficient. It's important to also take into account that your respiration rate will be higher while exercising, increasing your exposure. In general, particles >10 microns are considered non-respirable and can enter the upper airways, while those

[@TINMANN220]

Have we heard enough from the vegan agenda? I have.

[@andrew66769]

Have we heard enough people die from heart disease? I have But I guess you havnt.

[@hogdog567]

altandrew I think we've heard enough of people with anaemia and osteoporosis.

[@markjthomson]

@@andrew66769 Yes agreed... however lets get the whole story.. not just the "vegan" side... there are plenty of good ways to eat that aren't vegan, or plantbased... whatever... lets have a wider discussion and not just "vegan"...

[@phillycheesetake]

@@andrew66769 Vegans folks. Either eat what they tell you to eat, or they'll accuse you of killing people.

[@lisapet160]

@@andrew66769 Have you heard about higher mental disorders and neurological degeneration rate among vegans? Many of them die not vegan since whilst institutionalized, none give a thing about theirs vegan agenda.

[@heliumtrophy]

I'd love to see EF's response to people with chronic illness who are told to go on an "elimination diet" and find that there is a LOT of things they have to cut out and the only thing they can be sure about is a packet of lentil crisps and chicken.

[@endcensorship874]

I'll give up bacon, brisket, turkey, sausages, etc when you pull them from cold, dead, greasy hands.

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

probly won't be long

[@TCRgalaxy]

What a CFM

[@endcensorship874]

@@clydea.hutchisoniv5742 I'm 53, 6'3" and 165 pounds (do your metric math if needed) and have 8% body fat. My dr said I was the fittest 53 year old he has seen. I think I'll be OK, but thanks for the concern.

[@clydea.hutchisoniv5742]

@@endcensorship874 ok that justifies paying to have thousands of sentient beings murdered, carry on and good luck

[@endcensorship874]

@@clydea.hutchisoniv5742 Don't forget, they're also yummy. I am sick of "Political Vegans." Look, Clyde, my daughter is a vegan and I actually eat vegan four nights out of the week for her sake, because I love her. If, on the one hand, you want to argue that eating vegan is better for you because of this or that reason, I am open to hearing that. If you want to argue that going vegan will make me a better cyclist, I will hear that argument as well. But the moment someone tells me that eating a cow or a pig is on the same level as eating people then I have one answer to the lot of you: eat a bag of dicks, and leave me alone. Because that is basically your argument with the whole "sentient beings murdered" schtick. I eat meat. I like it. I enjoy it. I will not stop. Ever. And you, you jackwad, trying to shame me into doing differently will only harden my resolve. That is all. Excuse me as I enjoy a turkey sandwich.

[@beckymaves6748]

I've been Plant-Based since Early 2016. I'm so glad you're video was one of the few that explained that a nutrient poor diet is poor whether that diet be Plant or Animal Based. I fell into the vegan convience foods, poor. Nutritional valued food a few years back and for the past year and obviously I'm healthier and therefore I'm riding better. Although I don't have a competitive bone in my body I ride road to commute to work, and mountain for the sheer fun. I just like bikes.

[@rayneary4371]

you can go plant based and remain omnivore, you don't have to become a vegan :p

[@MattLamPiano]

Don't really understand how someone can be plant based and omnivore at the same time, can you explain?

[@thetempestfox3178]

I be honest. I enjoy how meat does taste. Do I need meat? Not really. But if I would by meat I do not want to support the mass production of it. So I agree we should reduce our meat intake and If we eat meat spend some money for a good piece of meat. I believe this is the way.

[@MattLamPiano]

@@thetempestfox3178 but if everyone buys "quality meat" from local butchers the demand would be too high, I mean that's the reason why factory farms are here.

[@rayneary4371]

because plant based doesn't mean vegan it just means that the majority of your food is local seasonal plants, the healthiest plant based diet according to science is the mediteranean diet, a lot of vegan diets aren't plant based because they contain too much processed foods

[@rayneary4371]

the reason factory farms are here is because we've over-mechanised farming due to fossil fuels and we don't know what else to do with all the crops we grow, the principal solution is grazing cover crops in no till systems to restore farmlands, reduce energy and fix carbon back in the soil where it belongs

[@geertaerts977]

I think they asked the nutritionist the wrong question. We already know the pros eat mostly carbs, which are all plants, or they couldn't put in the miles they do every day. However, the question should have been: "Will the average cyclist that eats animal products breakfast lunch and dinner have more energy and better recovery after switching to plants? The resounding answer would be yes.

[@winters3]

Just a stupid trend, hey folk just beeing normal is okey..

[@TCRgalaxy]

Yupp 8 billion humans being “normal” is destroying the planet just fine, WASF🔥🌏🔥

[@niklashg3864]

A stupid trend that can reduce climate change, deforestation and CO2 emission and improve animal wellbeing as well as being the only sustainable way to feed 9 billion people. Plus, it is proven to actually be quite healthy and beneficial to your cycling performance... Yeah lets ignore all that because... idk real men eat meat I guess?

[@andrew66769]

judging by your spelling you need some carbs mate. too much meat can do that to you aswell.

[@phillycheesetake]

@@niklashg3864 "sustainable" is a buzzword at this point. No, eliminating meat from human diets will not reduce climate change, it will just create more humans. Also, people will not be forced or shamed into reducing the kinds of foods they can eat. "Yeah lets ignore all that because... idk real man eat meat I guess?" Real men don't let dickheads tell them what to eat.

[@MattLamPiano]

Calling it a trend just shows how ignorant you are

[@raftornador4444]

GCN is dangerously close to 2 million subscribers. Well done everyone!

[@lejkb2101]

Guys, that strange bike locking contraption is called a YERKA bike. Stealing it will destroy it, so there's really no point to steal it. I have had mine for almost 3 years now and I am very happy with it. No need to carry a bike lock around. yerkabikes.com/eu/en/

[@ZlatkoUnger]

Cycling vegan for over a decade. A++ Would recommend.

[@lazyremnant380]

Thanks guys for presenting a moderate, as-fair-as-it-can-be viewpoint for plant-based foods. As we all know and see all over in the comments section, this is a quite partisan issue and it's extremely difficult to stay neutral, due to deeply vested interests on both sides. Both sides have vocal radical fundamentalists with tunnel visions who honestly doesn't really help their cause by using strong with-us-or-against-us rhetoric. I think the "silent majority" who have moderate stances should voice their opinions more often, just to temper the flares. Maybe for next week's GCN show, you guys could present an as-fair-as-it-can-be viewpoint for animal-based foods?

[@magnusdagbro8226]

I don't think there's any doubt that you could perform well on an omnivorous diet. Plant-based is the more interesting video because it has so many benefits (personal and external) and not really any downsides.

[@scienide77]

For pro cyclist it shouldnt matter, there is an entire team behind it taking care of a balanced diet and monitoring the riders health. For amateurs i guess its possible if you are a dedicated vegan that has a basic understanding of nutrition and carefully monitor your intake but in general it's easier for a non vegan to balance their meals.

[@Frankiez220]

I’ve been plant based three years. Do it ! You are doing an injustice to yourself if you don’t. Make life easy for yourself........

[@ChrisMurrayEWC]

I'm impressed, a very reasonable and logical stance on vegetarian vs omnivore. As always, well played GCN

[@golfcat8640]

I think the question was answered by Dan in the beginning by saying nearly all pro cyclists are omnivores. This vegan stuff is silly. I think Eddy Merckx (spelling?) would eat steak before rides. It would for sure boost his iron.

[@goodwincycles7197]

Caption competition “Richie has a bit too much port over the holidays and decided to get a tan like si. Regrets now kicking in!!”

[@paansukarjo90]

guys.. eat everything in moderation. For those guys who claims that eating meat increase the cholesterol level maybe because you eat it a little bit too much. eat a healthy based diet, rather claiming this type of diet is good and this type of diet is bad. as the nutritional says, not all vegan diet is nutritional and not all meat based diet is bad for you. think before you eat. beer is 100 percent vegan yet if you take it toooo much you will be exposed to many kind of diseases too. so the key is indeed take all in moderation.

[@Spracker]

Do you snort meth in moderation?

[@Stephen-nq5kd]

Dan's quip of the day: When viewing the photo submitted by member 'Dish Soap' wondering aloud, is that a road or designated bike path.., "That's surely too narrow for American cars"!?!