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I Earned HOW Much?! Ex-Pro Cyclist Delivery Rider Challenge

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Ex-pro cyclist Hank put on a backpack, saddled up his new Orbea Orca and took to the streets of Bath to see how much he could earn in 24 hours riding for Deliveroo. One day of riding, one day of deliveries - starting on a Friday evening and ending after the Saturday lunch rush. All the proceeds will be donated to the Motor Neuron Disease Association via local charity The MND Tee.
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@peterreeve3503
@peterreeve3503 2 жыл бұрын
Hank - A huge thank you - I work for the MND Association and am a massive GCN fan and indeed I'm their unofficial 'cycling correspondent' and have done quite a few challenges for them as well as pushing cycling as transport to our offices in Northampton - and yes every penny makes a massive difference in supporting people with this horrible condition and trying to find a cure - so I know many of the comments are about Deliveroo but thank you for giving your time and helping people who really need it.
@apm9507
@apm9507 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@BenCurrington
@BenCurrington 2 жыл бұрын
Peter, you beat me to it! I'm also really excited to see this on GCN. Thank you, Hank.
@thisisabsolutelystup
@thisisabsolutelystup 2 жыл бұрын
MND is an incredibly cruel disease and its great to see support for charities fighting against it. If you don't know, motor neurone disease (also ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease) basically destroyed the nerves that control your muscles. So an otherwise healthy person becomes unable to tie their shoes, then to walk, then to talk, then to eat, then to breathe. They become trapped in their body which would be working just fine if the signals were still able to get from the brain to the body. It is 100% fatal and uncurable, and we don't know what causes it.
@NihilisticHedonism
@NihilisticHedonism 2 жыл бұрын
He should've sold the superbike - which was probably provided for free by the sponsor, that would've made a helluva lot bigger donation for you's
@kishascape
@kishascape 2 жыл бұрын
and now in Canada if you ride for Uber Eat you can deliver Marijuanas.
@SamuelNewham
@SamuelNewham 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for Deliveroo for a few years. I got t-boned by an inattentive driver on a delivery and my shoulder was dislocated. I knew I had to call the rider support team before going to a&e, otherwise my account would be flagged, my 'stats' ruined and I'd lose all my shifts for a fortnight +. I called support to let them know what had happened. Their response? "Oh, does this mean you can't complete the delivery?" The tone of that response honestly sums up my experience with them perfectly. Immoral and unethical to the core. Illegally fired staff in Leeds (UK) for attempting to unionise to combat the terrible controls they were forcing upon riders they incorrectly labelled as 'self-employed'. Avoid their business at all costs. They are everything wrong with late capitalism.
@NihilisticHedonism
@NihilisticHedonism 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a disgruntled former courier - you knew what you had signed up for. It is self-employed so if they don't want to use you anymore they're within their rights to do so - just like you can choose to change the supermarket you shop at. They don't need to be concerned about your welfare as they hold no accountability for it.
@SamuelNewham
@SamuelNewham 2 жыл бұрын
no, Marco. Terminating someone’s contract for organising unionisation in the UK is completely illegal. I was involved in protests about it at the time which received support from members of parliament so I think that tells all. ‘They don’t need to care about your welfare’ - unfortunately for will shu and his gaggle of investors, they will. Uber recently lost a court case that argued their drivers are self employed and will now be paying them minimum wage and have to offer sick pay and other basic benefits. This will soon carry over to Deliveroo and other companies claiming bogus self-employment. The gig economy is dying and it’s glorious to see.
@NihilisticHedonism
@NihilisticHedonism 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelNewham Deliveroo, JustEat and Uber(Eats) all operate this model. It doesn't suit everyone - there's probably more cons than pros working in partnership with them. However for some people - like those who speak no or poor English - it might be a lifeline between earning some wages or having none. If you can do better good for you I say.
@SamuelNewham
@SamuelNewham 2 жыл бұрын
@@NihilisticHedonism Just Eat riders are (correctly) recognised as workers, not self-employed. I don't get the point about not speaking English - do they not deserve worker's rights and protections because you haven't had the opportunity to learn another language? Or do they deserve to be exploited by investment bros with crap ethics because they can only speak their native tongue?
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelNewham of course non English speakers have the same rights, but I suppose some companies will try to use this to their advantage, since these riders have a language barrier and might not understand their rights 100% correct.
@hoopdoggydogg
@hoopdoggydogg 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to balance this out, but there are some negatives too. You are your own boss, to a degree, but you don't set your own pay rate. You're a Freelancer competing with hundreds of other freelancers. There are ways to cheat the system where some freelancers will profit at the expense to others. Insurance? Questionable. Road safety by other colleagues - non existent, as they are competing for orders, so they're likely to ride wrecklessly. HANK, if you want a real challenge, ride the job for a week. Try 30 hours or more. Riding for one day knowing that's all your doing, it's easy to see all the positives. But wait until you get spilt fluids in your backpack, late orders, annoyed customers, impatient motorists or a lack of orders and then try and bounce back from this. Oh, and let's hope that nice bike doesn't get stolen while delivering an order.....
@ndjk2821
@ndjk2821 2 жыл бұрын
All very good points made
@da14a49
@da14a49 2 жыл бұрын
The spilt oil/drink/grease must be horrible to deal with over a shift. It all compounds though - I feel for those delivering orders for the conglomerates.
@eduardorichard4845
@eduardorichard4845 2 жыл бұрын
20s into the video and I am already thinking this is just one more platform to exploit people disguised as a good opportunity for revenue. They're everywhere in the world now, the game plan is they bring ppl in with initial decent pay then it starts decreasing, competition increases and you get less orders, so you try to work harder. In the end you increase the chances of getting injured, remember you have no labour rights, no decent insurance, you may get blocked from the app for no good reason and so on. In parallel the app is always charging the restaurants, so to offset you have to pay more when you order, the app makes money money, pay a small percentage to the courrier and make lots of money.
@charlielatto7350
@charlielatto7350 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree with the points made here, but just to add, Deliveroo and companies like it may have big revenues, but they don't actually make a profit, and it's questionable when they will. A big part of me thinks this is a bubble, and when it pops and theses companies go under it's going to be the riders who suffer more as the work will disappear.
@hoopdoggydogg
@hoopdoggydogg 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlielatto7350 I can definitely tell you that one company is certainly making profit. That's the company I work for. And anytime there's a lockdown, food delivery services profit huge.
@m.h.4143
@m.h.4143 2 жыл бұрын
Deliveroo has a very bad image in Germany (Lieferando). Is this a image / promotion video? Problems: no rights for employees, they stressed to do overtime, being fast (and miss the traffic rules)
@hoopdoggydogg
@hoopdoggydogg 2 жыл бұрын
Most food delivery firms do. Foodora/mjam also
@strandkorbst9643
@strandkorbst9643 2 жыл бұрын
Lieferando is a different company. I for example work at wolt, it's a good job for people who like riding bikes (although i think you should only do it part time) (maybe as a student?) I am not stressed to do overtime, in fact it's impossible to do overtime, you go offline automatically when the shift is over. We are not forced to be fast, there are no penalties for being late, you can make more money of you go faster tho, but generally we make 11 euros an hour minimum, and up to 25 per hour
@m.h.4143
@m.h.4143 2 жыл бұрын
@@strandkorbst9643 Oh thanks man. You are right. Deliveroo is not Lieferando. Sorry for this miss-information.
@cashmanfive
@cashmanfive 2 жыл бұрын
Deliveroo tried the same business-modell in Germany as well and failed miserably because the way they uses riders as „independent“ contractors isn’t legal here. So in Germany you aren‘t paid per order but per hour (usually with some kind of bonus per order). Lieferando has some problems with workers rights (which are quite strong in Germany) and sometimes bets on not getting sued by the employees, but it’s way better than „well, there are no orders today, guess I‘ll just earn nothing today“
@nigelw.9043
@nigelw.9043 2 жыл бұрын
Deliveroo doesn't operate in Germany. They closed there German subsidiary in 2019. Lieferando is a totally diiferent company owned by Dutch company Just Eat Takeaway.
@uphillfreewheeler
@uphillfreewheeler 2 жыл бұрын
Challenge: Try delivering in Reading using a superbike and see how much money you make after you have deducted the cost of your stolen bike.
@beckyball1646
@beckyball1646 2 жыл бұрын
Nah. He's got the film crew to watch his bike when he picks up an order!
@matlip.
@matlip. 2 жыл бұрын
@@beckyball1646 a normal person doesn't
@jonnyw2887
@jonnyw2887 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who had 2 bikes stolen in Reading, I lolled
@uphillfreewheeler
@uphillfreewheeler 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyw2887 Anyone who has ever ridden a bike in Reading has had one stolen. It's a crime on a massive scale and the police aren't interested.
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын
@@uphillfreewheeler theft promotes the economy, arresting bike thieves does the opposite
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 2 жыл бұрын
Hank:" You're probably wondering what I'm going to do with all the money I make" Me: Buying a new phone to replace the one you left on the park bench?
@kishascape
@kishascape 2 жыл бұрын
Next dose of EPO :3
@C1oudChaser
@C1oudChaser 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@merckxy54
@merckxy54 2 жыл бұрын
Ah ah I saw that as well, but after a few seconds it was not there when they panned back!
@matthewbenger8355
@matthewbenger8355 2 жыл бұрын
They might have given him a quad lock or something similar so he didn't have to ride with it in his hand the entire time!
@Janz_u
@Janz_u 2 жыл бұрын
@@merckxy54 Plot twist: It was already stolen during those few seconds
@applejuice5297
@applejuice5297 2 жыл бұрын
As a deliveroo rider myself, but also a keen road cyclist, this job is great, if you’re doing it part time to earn some extra cash. Doing it full time is far too stressful, the way your earnings can deviate week on week is not a sustainable way to live you life. Also I would love to know how many orders Hank rejected because they were to the Uni and he didn’t want to climb Bathwick hill lol.
@veloaa-montreal6924
@veloaa-montreal6924 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could mention how Deliveroo and its parent company Delivery Hero actively fight against workers' rights and avoid providing their workers with the basics like health insurance, employment insurance, etc.. by hiring them as "independent contractors". I delivered for Foodora (another Delivery Hero subsidiary), and from my experience, Friday nightstand weekends are always the most lucrative, so this is an inflated estimate of how much riders earn. And what he doesn't mention is that, yes you can stop when it rains, but for most people the rent and grocery bills don't stop because of rain. If you're depending on this job for your income then you're out there in the rain, the snow, whatever it takes to make the deliveries happen.
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n 2 жыл бұрын
What workers rights are those excatly? Your not a worker tho and you sign the contract yourself take some personal responsibility.
@strobi0001
@strobi0001 2 жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n They force you to work as a selfemployer so taxes and whatever other expenses you have to manage for yourself. At a normal job you still get benefits like vacation money, hours, etc.. Here is the oppsosite. You are also not secured in case there is no delivery. I was delivering food for two months in Rotterdam and then in Utrecht but then I just reallized that an orderpicking job gives more money and flexibility and more secured, fixed income. And protection against harsh weather. I don't mind cycling in cold, rain, snow, whatever, but by doing deliveries once you cycle, then you wait a lot so it is not possible to dress properly.
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 2 жыл бұрын
Work is generally more lucrative in the rain.
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n 2 жыл бұрын
@@strobi0001 what do you mean force 😂. You can't have fully flexible working and full benefits that's just impossible as then you'll have ppl getting benefits without working.
@strobi0001
@strobi0001 2 жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n benefits that are often covered by your employer such as health insurance, taxes, payed holiday, vacation money at least. That is what you can't expect from deliveroo.
@TheSamwhyte
@TheSamwhyte 2 жыл бұрын
Looks interesting but this year's lawsuit exposed the way Deliveroo riders are treated (and the mindset of the company bosses) so it actually confirms Deliveroo is a villain of cycling. Would have liked to see GCN instead call out their bullshit rather than take on paid advertising.
@TheCam1966
@TheCam1966 2 жыл бұрын
I work for Just Eat and its the opposite. We get guaranteed hours and a minimum wage. Its a shame GCN couldnt do this vid with them.
@johnsmithington3167
@johnsmithington3167 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it fun watching corpirate shills LARP as "the working class"? LOLZ
@mangethegamer
@mangethegamer 2 жыл бұрын
We have the same issues with these "gig" style of jobs in Sweden. Horrible working conditions, shit pay, bad insurance.
@martintramuntbikemallorcak481
@martintramuntbikemallorcak481 2 жыл бұрын
well said - The TRUTH shall always prevail..
@andrewreid380
@andrewreid380 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah not to mention they threaten to fire you all the time if you're slow getting to a customer for whatever reason and for entering a date of birth incorrect.
@HShango
@HShango 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of them delivery courier (it isn't easy literally) I can sympathize with those that do it full time still, I stopped doing it full time several months ago (it was taking my soul away in a very bad way)
@NihilisticHedonism
@NihilisticHedonism 2 жыл бұрын
Traffic pollution from noise and fumes; dealing with poor service in restaurants; working in all weather conditions; unpredictable work pattern; these are just some of the major cons about the job. God loves a trier. This job definitely tests your will to put up with inconsiderate working conditions.
@leonardolarocca1999
@leonardolarocca1999 2 жыл бұрын
I am in spain. In England people can vote but here the goverment just launched a law and even after massives protest from the couriers the goverment acceptes the law anyways deliveroo left spain and left about 4 thousand people without job. I like this job because you dont have a boss and you are not required by no one you can do it whenever you want but with a bike is very diffucult i mean for this guy isnt that much becuase he is a pro ciclyst i have been ciclying for a year and a have a decent form but i live in Tenerife (canary island) and there are hills everywhere, if you have a motorcycle or car. Is the easiest thing but in a bike... My knees hurts. I have a road bike too but i doubt if hi delivered the food in good shape i mead having the pack in tha angle for a example a pizza Will be all mess up or if the is liquid it can be pour out if is not well sealed.
@RaidenElectro
@RaidenElectro 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardolarocca1999 il arrivo anche a 40 all'ora, mi muovo e piego molto e il cibo è sempre arrivato sano e salvo. Io faccio dai 30 ai 50 km in quattro ore di lavoro. La bici da corsa e l'essere ciclisti aiuta
@ymi_yugy3133
@ymi_yugy3133 2 жыл бұрын
Seems just as precarious and exploitative as the rest of the gig economy. The pay seems rather low when you consider that you don't get paid sick leave, paid holidays, private pension contributions or job security. You have to work in the evenings, nights and on weekends. It might be fun for some time, but over time it will probably get monotonous, lonely and with zero opportunity for advancement will start to feel like a dead end.
@Barbuzim1
@Barbuzim1 2 жыл бұрын
Sure its "fun" for hank to do this for the challenge, knowing he doesn't have to do this to make a living. It's really disappointing to see GCN promoting the "gig economy".
@jugaloo5873
@jugaloo5873 2 жыл бұрын
FFS, no mention of the disgraceful way the riders are treated!!
@philha
@philha 2 жыл бұрын
If you really want a challenge, you should try doing this as your full time job for a month in winter and come back here and tell us how great it was. You almost slipped in one part of the video.. These services don't pay for your health insurance, so good luck if you crash or your bike gets stolen.
@staticx2552
@staticx2552 2 жыл бұрын
Did this full time for about 7-8 years , tell me about it lmfaooo
@jhschuster
@jhschuster 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see him fix his orbea superbike after a crash, solely on money made by deliveries.
@pinorino913
@pinorino913 2 жыл бұрын
isn't healthcare free in uk? lmao
@mickinmerton8053
@mickinmerton8053 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinorino913 yes healthcare is paid, but if you are injured and you can't work and you are paid employee then you still get paid ... for sometime ... for deliveroo and other 'freelance' employees you loose earnings.
@nicholasmartin9655
@nicholasmartin9655 2 жыл бұрын
Well I guess you can be happy you get paid to ride your bike, or if you aren't happy riding your bike, then I guess you should change what you do.
@enteekay4087
@enteekay4087 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I feel like this video is quite one-sided. I don't know about the UK and Deliveroo but what I hear about delivery services here in Germany is thst the workers are pretty much ruthlessly exploited and usually they are people in very precarious financial positions who depend on any kind of work. I guess it is quite a different feeling if you are still paid by your actual employer and can do it as a work project whose returns can be donated.
@jorismak
@jorismak 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is indeed doing it full time as your actual 'job'. Since they don't do any kind of employee-rights you are sick out of luck if anything happens . Injury , sickness pregnancy , vacation pension just to name some things. All stuff you gotta think about yourself, because you are basically self-employed. Now if you are an urban cyclist and you live in our near a big city.. you might as well turn deliveroo on as a training each Saturday night :). But if you _rely_ on it for income, they are bastards . Rightly so most EU countries are changing things around so that these 'you work for us but are technically self-employed' constructions are not possible anymore.
@strandkorbst9643
@strandkorbst9643 2 жыл бұрын
It's good as a part time job. Idk why the reputation is bad in Germany, i work for wolt in Frankfurt as a student, it's fun and you make a lot (20 euros an hour, that's more than in a normal "Bürojob")
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n 2 жыл бұрын
It was never meant to be used as a normal job and you can't have it both ways. No one's being forced so it can't be exploitation
@jorismak
@jorismak 2 жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n very true. People can say no. But 1) they started doing things as not being able to work for other delivery agents . Which goes against any kind of self-employed kind of deal 2) they made it seem at first as like they are 'an employer' while they weren't . So most countries have different policies now to protect people from themselves. I understand you might think 'well people should know what they are getting into ', and you are absolutely right. But a government has the job to protect it's citizens and they deemed it necessary to intervene. Also, full time normal employment contracts being terminated and 'converted' into deliveroo agreements (and thereby not having to supply employee rights anymore ) is the big thing where - at least here in the Netherlands - the most objection was. There were other delivery agents which really employed people. They were bought out by deliveroo , and contracts terminated 'because that is how deliveroo works'. Which simply isn't allowed here.
@mountain_stoats
@mountain_stoats 2 жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n if it's not supposed to be a normal job then the hours should be limited, but if it was 100% casual cyclists doing the work and not people working full time+ the service would fall apart. Deliveroo know exactly what they're doing.
@andymonks7126
@andymonks7126 2 жыл бұрын
Surely the next video needs to be Si and Hank riding for Deiveroo on the tandem :D
@jagrutirathod
@jagrutirathod 2 жыл бұрын
Please do this GCN!!! I'll even pay for the carrot cakes required to get Hank to agree to this 😂😂
@bossg2817
@bossg2817 2 жыл бұрын
Si on TT bike doing this delivery challenge 😁
@ViktorRms9
@ViktorRms9 2 жыл бұрын
Already been done, not by gcn, though, but if you want to check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHuydoSIeMqpZq8
@Avioto
@Avioto 2 жыл бұрын
What a terrible company to advertise guys 👎 Great charity though.
@lavefa
@lavefa 2 жыл бұрын
So.... this is not paid advertising?!💸🙄
@Richarddraper
@Richarddraper 2 жыл бұрын
Is that £500 per week before or after tax and national insurance? As it's a blag self employed there'll be no pension payments so some of it will need to go into a private pension too. Let's not forget paying for bike upkeep. No sick pay and no holiday pay as well so when you don't work there's no money coming in. It's not a way I'd choose to earn a living.
@NihilisticHedonism
@NihilisticHedonism 2 жыл бұрын
Most guys who do this are not particularly smart. A lot of them are sex pests with criminal records or foreigners with no English. I dealt with a few of them - odd bunch of people signed up for it to say the least.
@matthewbenger8355
@matthewbenger8355 2 жыл бұрын
@@NihilisticHedonism that seems like a massive generalisation...
@makerbeelab5546
@makerbeelab5546 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbenger8355 That seems like Marco is a massive t..at of a human and a racist too.
@matthewbenger8355
@matthewbenger8355 2 жыл бұрын
@@makerbeelab5546 agreed
@Richarddraper
@Richarddraper 2 жыл бұрын
@@NihilisticHedonism Just to clarify here that my comment was about Deliveroo the company and in no way an attack on those who ride for them. Of course such a job is going to attract those who lack better options for whatever reason. I think they deserve better.
@rychan7
@rychan7 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t mind this video if at the end there was even a mention of the problems with the gig economy and deliveroo. Felt a bit gross this video because it was so obviously a paid advertisement
@gcn
@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, it's not paid for by Deliveroo, this was something Hank wanted to do. We appreciate from reading the comments that many people are unhappy with the way Deliveroo treats it's delivery riders. Those we spoke with were really happy with it, but we hadn't realised there was more going on. Cheers, Simon
@rychan7
@rychan7 2 жыл бұрын
@@gcn thanks for the reply. I think that's fair enough to make a video about this - it's still a fun video and great to raise awareness & raise money for the MND Association! But I feel us who have commented would've just liked a more balanced comment on delivery industry and highlight some of the negatives. It just had that feel of an advertisement since it felt very one-sided
@AnTeallach2011
@AnTeallach2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@gcn How could you not be aware of any of the very well publicised issues surrounding the gig economy generally, and deliveroo particularly. Ignorance of the issues is a really poor excuse.
@bink281
@bink281 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnTeallach2011 Excuse? They are just providing more context. They don't owe you or anyone else an excuse to make a video about, or related to, Deliveroo.
@thomasmarktooms
@thomasmarktooms 2 жыл бұрын
@@gcn Perhaps a balancing rebuttal, then. For many this is as important as other social issues that GCN covers
@ChrisGuarraia
@ChrisGuarraia 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what challenge Hank is given, I love his spirit of throwing himself completely into it. Donating his earnings to MND awareness: priceless. Well done, Hank. Well done indeed.
@petewillmot
@petewillmot 2 жыл бұрын
Next on the list of episodes: Hank + Deliveroo + Wind Tunnel. How aero can he get to improve his deliveroo status?!
@adaml5473
@adaml5473 2 жыл бұрын
thats for ollie
@BruceLee-xi3qi
@BruceLee-xi3qi 2 жыл бұрын
Without a film crew to guard the super bike, the practical side of securing your bike for each pickup and delivery in a busy city on a Friday night would have been interesting to see.
@chiwanau
@chiwanau 2 жыл бұрын
Ur not gone for long just dropping off and picking up. Non cable lock and ur good. Super bike is like what, 2-3 water bottles heavier over a metal rd bike? No biggie using ur other bike.
@VictorOFarrillt
@VictorOFarrillt 2 жыл бұрын
And then that prancing around with cleats! Sporting setup… impractical. This is too much of an artificial situation.
@RaidenElectro
@RaidenElectro 2 жыл бұрын
@@VictorOFarrillt i do exactly the same as Hank does in the video, rocking cycling kits cleat shoes and superbike
@evocaeden2932
@evocaeden2932 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, it's a good cause and an honest look at what a pro-level cyclist can accomplish. So Thanks! A couple things though - I am a Deliveroo rider in Cork, Ireland. I work full time at it. I actually used to work full time as an engineer with Deliveroo part-time. But I quit the job because I loved cycling enough to want to do it full time. I ride 8-10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. I easily clock up 1000km per week in that time, every week. So fitness and calorie burn is intense with this job. I have settled into a rhythm for full time, so I work pretty much 2pm to midnight every shift, and then my "evening" starts and I go to bed at 7am. That is the beauty of this job, you determine your own rhythm in order to be the most efficient for you. And every week it feels like my power is increasing bit by bit. BUT - after time you realise there are certain drawbacks to Deliveroo itself. If there are a lot of riders active at one time, it can become difficult to get an order, because there aren't enough customers to keep all the riders active. So you have to stick with it even through dry periods - it can be quite nerve-wracking. Also, people will be more likely to order food if the weather is bad, so funnily enough the best times to be active is when the weather is at its worst. I was active during Storm Ophelia a few years ago, and ended up making almost twice as much as a normal day in just a couple of hours. The biggest two things I have realised is if you do it full time: 1 - Your bike wears out FAST. You will need to maintain our bike well week on week, and probably get it serviced fully every month just to keep it road-worthy. 2 - It's DANGEROUS. This is a job where you are against the clock all of the time, and this eventually means you need to take risks. This is something the rider decides to do, but it's a reality of the job if you want to make more money. And working in a city with heavy traffic means there is always a threat at every moment. Deliveroo are finally starting to account for this with sick pay and rider insurance, so at least it's starting to go in the right direction.
@davidhawkins9206
@davidhawkins9206 2 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. Would you take an order up St. Patrick's Hill?
@evocaeden2932
@evocaeden2932 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhawkins9206 I try to take every order, and I try to cycle every metre of the distance. Patrick's Hill still bests me however. I'm working on it :D
@NihilisticHedonism
@NihilisticHedonism 2 жыл бұрын
I guess being an engineer must be an awful graft if one decided to give it up to go and work as self-employed junk-food courier with no fixed hours and stable income. Or, you're not that smart to be engineer perhaps? Good luck on them noisy, polluted roads in winter weather ;-)
@evocaeden2932
@evocaeden2932 2 жыл бұрын
@@NihilisticHedonism I'm in my 20s. Early level engineer positions pay terribly in Ireland. I earn the same hourly wage as a courier that I did as an engineer. I enjoyed cycling to work more than the work itself, though I never hated it. So I wanted to pursue the thing I really wanted, which was cycling. So it's either work as a courier, or go find a sponsor and get a late start as a pro cyclist. I don't know how bad roads or the air is where you are, but Ireland has some of the best air quality in the world and winter here is not that bad. I reckon I'll be fine.
@kcrymble
@kcrymble 2 жыл бұрын
I did it in Belfast for a while - and you are right about your bike wearing out. I just used to pickup cheap second hand bikes to use, plenty about, then just wear them into the ground. You understand the whole fixie/single speed thing when riding in cities all the time as your bike just wears out! Also yes, dangerous work. I love cycling in town, but especially once it gets dark cars just don't pay attention. I used to pretend I was invisible and assume that no cars could see me - that way I could avoid more accidents.
@JanTrenson
@JanTrenson 2 жыл бұрын
This is clearly a sponsored video... Yet I don't see any signs of 'sponsored content'? 'For money the monkey dances'
@ABiketoEscape
@ABiketoEscape 2 жыл бұрын
why this commercial? I get it that the Deliveroo wants to get a better image after the "cool company that uses bikes to bring food" effect is wearing out revealing the exploiting company that they are but GCN, do you really need THAT money?
@strandkorbst9643
@strandkorbst9643 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm so you loved "every second of it"? That's very hard to believe. I know it's an ad, but couldn't you at least have thrown one downside of the job in the mix?
@microcosmonauta
@microcosmonauta 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, GCN now paid by labor exploitation companies to present labor exploitation as fun and cycling friendly. Pretty low.
@channul4887
@channul4887 2 жыл бұрын
The G in GCN, stands for "Global", that's the first give away.
@raff5604
@raff5604 2 жыл бұрын
suddenly I'm noticing that the theme of all the latest videos are that they are ADS imbedded with annoying ads.
@pascaladl
@pascaladl 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting/prudent to mention the implications of insurance in case of an accident, how it compares to minimum wage, what workers rights if any are present etc etc. In Australia there have been quite a few cases of delivery riders getting killed in traffic, as well as there have questions about the legal status as employee vs contractor and the associated entitlements.
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын
Just like our construction workers/tradesmen = no super, no tax, no health benefits, no insurance
@kcrymble
@kcrymble 2 жыл бұрын
When I did it there was insurance for loss of earnings if you were in an accident. Not sure if it replaced parts though. Medical was covered (NHS)
@OneDougUnderPar
@OneDougUnderPar 2 жыл бұрын
Asking pros for tips and tricks: "How do you like it?" "It's alright." Top tip right there, changed my life.
@GaryColman
@GaryColman 2 жыл бұрын
That first delivery customer - the most Johannesburg accent ever! ;-)
@johannesboghfangel
@johannesboghfangel 2 жыл бұрын
Hank, you forgot your phone!
@unic0rnblood
@unic0rnblood 2 жыл бұрын
As a bike courier I can tell you, the best thing I ever did was build my ebike this summer. That, and being able to use my car to deliver for various companies to avoid back/wrist issues on the bike. Unfortunately, the real problem with all these delivery companies is how they fight to keep their employees as independent contractors instead of employees with rights and guaranteed wages.
@Gadottinho
@Gadottinho 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, what do you expect? Them to give you all the benefits when you can simply not work? Or work and make 10£ and get all of the good things? That's not how the world works.
@draconianTL
@draconianTL 9 ай бұрын
@@Gadottinho I'd suggest that a fool with anime banners in their profile is not an authority on "how the world works."
@jeremiahchan8820
@jeremiahchan8820 2 жыл бұрын
This is the closest thing we can possibly get to being a pro cyclist.. getting paid while cycling 🤣
@felpel1027
@felpel1027 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, it’s professional cycling, yeah 😂
@staticx2552
@staticx2552 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it
@AnTeallach2011
@AnTeallach2011 2 жыл бұрын
This is a new low for GCN - what a calamatous fall this channel has had. Back in the day gcn really helped me get into cycling with their skills and tips videos. Now it's just ads for superbikes, or now, exploitative companies. Shame.
@julendelrio
@julendelrio 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! I worked as bike messenger in my home town San Sebastian, Spain, for 1 year. I made enough money to buy a new Giant TCR and to come travelling to Australia, through the USA and Hawaii. Then I also worked in Uber Eats in Sydney for like 5 months. It's a hard job and is not for everyone, but for us people who love cycling is the closest thing to being a professional cyclist we would ever be. People complain a lot about work rights and they gonna change the laws back in Spain, but I loved it. I prefer to look at the pros, that they are much more than the cons. For me was like a dream job, miss it so much 😍
@briggzyofguernsey
@briggzyofguernsey 2 жыл бұрын
Stoked to see the MND charity represented. Good work Hank and the team
@CL-yx7ly
@CL-yx7ly 2 жыл бұрын
Delivery riders are truly the unsung heroes of our times
@LednacekZ
@LednacekZ 2 жыл бұрын
make a song about them and they wont be unsung anymore
@channul4887
@channul4887 2 жыл бұрын
@@LednacekZ make sure to include a lot of skrrrrrrrrrrts and prrrrrrrraps and some brrrraps too!
@mannyechaluce3814
@mannyechaluce3814 2 жыл бұрын
add that to the other working class who pay taxes to keep the government squandering money
@brianwheeldon4643
@brianwheeldon4643 2 жыл бұрын
and wow they are exploited like crazy by outfits like deliveroo just another shit-show of a corporation
@CL-yx7ly
@CL-yx7ly 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannyechaluce3814 Everyone is important...some are..err...important-er
@marcbeillevaire5566
@marcbeillevaire5566 2 жыл бұрын
Bad advertising guys, this is not at all the dream job. In Paris where I live the delivery riders earn on avg at most the minimum salary, but without the benefits of having a fixed job (no health insurance, no compensation if you'd be fired, etc...) + you have to spend money to take car of the bike, so a lot of hidden costs. Hence the job is done mostly by people in hopeless situations, ie: very poor people and migrants
@lebanc571
@lebanc571 2 жыл бұрын
People who don't need money romanticizing precarious gig work that's known for exploiting the working poor. Is there anything GCN won't do for money?
@coelmay
@coelmay 2 жыл бұрын
Love the little text on screen when the dog is sniffing under the chair! 🤣 And when Hank leaves the phone behind.
@vnelson000
@vnelson000 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just watched this content and saw he left his phone, then I wondered if anyone else noticed that too, so I scrolled down through the comments. 🤣
@Olof123
@Olof123 2 жыл бұрын
Hank since you enjoyed this, it would be interesting to see what you could do in a week working for them. Since this was really the best times I would assume but more interesting to say what a weeks wage would look like.
@angelag5708
@angelag5708 2 жыл бұрын
Your own boss...without benefits or job security while making corporations some more money
@stevenmonaghan9222
@stevenmonaghan9222 2 жыл бұрын
Presenter great but just a recruitment add for deliverwho
@staticx2552
@staticx2552 2 жыл бұрын
Did the courier thing fulltime for 7 years . different cities have different challenges and pros and cons , honestly much funner to do as a part time or side hustle
@inigomontoya551
@inigomontoya551 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like an advertisement.
@HShango
@HShango 2 жыл бұрын
It is, it is showing way too much of the fake news of deliveroo, that isn't how it is in reality. It is a hard graft delivery on a push bike, especially if you haven't got an expensive orbea bike (it can really drain you out) plus the customers, the restaurants, the driver's too and more bro...it's stressful to a point.
@AussieInJapan
@AussieInJapan 2 жыл бұрын
Glad your bike didn’t get nicked while you were delivering to a flat. Definitely need some SPD shoes to walk around easier.
@davidodomhnaill3599
@davidodomhnaill3599 2 жыл бұрын
Pro cyclist Vs a few of us regular couriers who know the zone (bad restaurants, short cuts etc) would be a good challenge
@einsteinisbae27
@einsteinisbae27 2 жыл бұрын
Having a moped crew looking after your bike, is a major benefit most don't have :D
@acl__live
@acl__live 2 жыл бұрын
MND charity is a great cause good choice GCN
@nickadams8952
@nickadams8952 2 жыл бұрын
Top Tip: Swap to MTB Cleats/Shoes - saves ice skating on slippery steps
@johndorney7812
@johndorney7812 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Dublin, Ireland, Deliveroo is typically Brazilian immigrants working off the books on e-bikes or e-bike conversions. Not sure what their rates are but I doubt they're very high for the work they put in. Nothing really to do with cycling or even cycle messenger culture (as used to exist), but a lot to do with exploiting people here on student visas who can't work legally, I suspect.
@joshpeck7381
@joshpeck7381 2 жыл бұрын
Very good choice of charity Hank! My grandad had MND and it was horrible so it’s nice to see you donating to the MND charity 👍🏻
@kc3vv
@kc3vv 2 жыл бұрын
Just what happens if you are sick or have an accident? Are you covered then?
@f00f00mods
@f00f00mods 2 жыл бұрын
If gcn has even a scrap of integrity this video wouldn't have ever been produced. Should be deleted and an apology should be issued.
@leegarrett5469
@leegarrett5469 2 жыл бұрын
This smells fishy these prices for jobs seem very high the minimum payment for a job is around £2.90 I worked yesterday and made £39 in 4 hours in Brighton where you on some kind of special rate?
@koolworths
@koolworths 2 жыл бұрын
Up to 7 quid and he only delivered a couple of coffees 😂
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n 2 жыл бұрын
By going further and riding during a boost.....
@leegarrett5469
@leegarrett5469 2 жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n his milage wasn't that high though
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n 2 жыл бұрын
@@leegarrett5469 7km for a drop is wayyy too much
@leegarrett5469
@leegarrett5469 2 жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n agreed!
@chrishigginson7565
@chrishigginson7565 2 жыл бұрын
Was GCN paid for this video by Deliveroo? This smells A LOT like it was but there's no Ad tag. Were you paid?
@dawoudabdulaziz9920
@dawoudabdulaziz9920 2 жыл бұрын
1:20 My heart stopped 😵
@TheBrokenMountainBiker
@TheBrokenMountainBiker 2 жыл бұрын
So that worked out roughly £13 an hour, that's a decent rate of pay. An e-road bike would be an incredible tool for this job.
@danproposkanovovski
@danproposkanovovski 2 жыл бұрын
You can't just look at the raw number (before taxes btw). You have to factor in no sick pay, no paid holidays, you have to pay for your bike's maintenance (and if it ends up in the shop you're losing out on pay).
@TheBrokenMountainBiker
@TheBrokenMountainBiker 2 жыл бұрын
@@danproposkanovovski that's the same for any zero hour or self employed job. I wouldn't fancy that as a full time wage but as something on the side on days off it could work pretty well
@twisted_witch
@twisted_witch 2 жыл бұрын
This is a horrible look GCN. Deliveroo are notorious for the bad terms and conditions their riders have to tolerate. Well off dude playing at having a shit job so he can ride the super bike he's actually getting paid to advertise. Not cool.
@danielsempere9507
@danielsempere9507 2 жыл бұрын
This video brings back so many memories. I used to ride for Uber Eats in Melbourne. It's hard work but once you get used to it can be quite thrilling. In the end Uber Eats paid for my Masters degree.
@GilbertTang
@GilbertTang Жыл бұрын
My heart sank when that bike almost fell.
@aarondora-laskey2457
@aarondora-laskey2457 2 жыл бұрын
How many months of exploitative labor does a super bike cost?
@andywatling1191
@andywatling1191 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - good job the film crew were there to mind the super bike while you went to the doors!
@Calum_S
@Calum_S 2 жыл бұрын
At least we didn't have Si asking some random customer if he wanted a selfie with him this time.
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you have Five Guys across the pond.
@ap5194
@ap5194 2 жыл бұрын
I know a doctor who does deliveroo. Apparently he doesn't even need the money but it gives him incentive to train
@vedhed7969
@vedhed7969 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the corporate selling out GCN has done, this would have to be at the very top.
@ChrisGuarraia
@ChrisGuarraia 2 жыл бұрын
Love the tiny captions when the dog came sniffing around towards the intro Hank was giving.
@kamils6645
@kamils6645 2 жыл бұрын
Always the best - Hank the Tank. Love you
@rickywang7664
@rickywang7664 2 жыл бұрын
good work! But imagine the bike got stolen
@HShango
@HShango 2 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you, that bike wouldn't last with him in London, it would get stolen in a matter of seconds
@fentontooth
@fentontooth 2 жыл бұрын
I was a cycle courier in London through most of the 90s. Enjoyed the freedom …summer was great but winter was a drag …
@3101199
@3101199 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like a new Challenge, GCN's presenters, Who earns the most in 24 hours
@davehollingworth5537
@davehollingworth5537 2 жыл бұрын
I also noticed the phone left on the park bench and the obvious advantages of having a film crew (or at least one other person!) to mind your fancy bike when you nip into the Coop or restaurants - plus that will have helped in tempering people's behaviour which can sometimes be poor in respect of delivery riders. And yeah, as others have said, you're somewhat glamorizing the job which in many parts of the world (perhaps not Bath) is proper gig economy stuff (which isn't meant in a good way). One final thought, I wish GCN would advocate for lights on bikes even during the day and lead by example. I'd hate to think this is a paid promotion (poor naive me) but well done on the contribution to charity. Nice one! Thanks for the entertaining vlog!
@Seppster58
@Seppster58 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Never a dull moment at GCN. Great to give back to the community on challenges like this. Thanks Hank!!!
@nkiey
@nkiey 2 жыл бұрын
01:58 "Oi mate! You left your phone...!"
@davidwrightsr4188
@davidwrightsr4188 2 жыл бұрын
HANK!!! You left your phone on the bench when you went to get kitted up!!! Maybe that little doggie sniffing around under the bench while you were showing us the bike found it and chased you down with it. I sure hope it got a good tip :)!
@lenwilkinson8541
@lenwilkinson8541 2 жыл бұрын
A new challenge for Hank - bicycle gymnastics where one does handstands on the seat, stands on the handlebars, etc.
@tomdean2669
@tomdean2669 2 жыл бұрын
Cracking video mate, can’t wait for the swimming collab! 😅 🏊‍♂️ 🚴‍♂️
@oadka
@oadka 2 жыл бұрын
Really like this new genre of videos, the new editing style is also great! Keep going team GCN!
@THEoldgreydude
@THEoldgreydude 2 жыл бұрын
Left your phone on the park bench dude LOL
@jonathanizaballer8258
@jonathanizaballer8258 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you guys I just got a terrible day and yu guys light my day up and decided to go for a night ride to get rid of the bad mood
@markjthomson
@markjthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed... thank you for supporting the MND. that disease sucks, have lost 3 members of my family to it. Cheers Hank.
@scottbeesley894
@scottbeesley894 2 жыл бұрын
Did I just watch a 13 minute ad for Deliveroo?
@lordbertos8124
@lordbertos8124 2 жыл бұрын
That’s actually a very good way of making cash. I have always wanted to give this a shot. Cycling and getting paid is definitely a win win
@kalinmir
@kalinmir 2 жыл бұрын
Cycling around a big city is miserable
@bahoonies
@bahoonies 2 жыл бұрын
And if anyone asks what you do for a living, you can honestly say that you're a professional cyclist.
@zalpman
@zalpman 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalinmir only if a big city has a shitty cycling infrastructure
@johnsmithington3167
@johnsmithington3167 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like a great idea until you rely on it to feed yourself. The gig economy app jobs are terrible outside of "choosing when you work" (you don't really have all that much control over peak hours, the only time worth working), good marketing though.
@kidShibuya
@kidShibuya 2 жыл бұрын
@@zalpman So almost all cities then?
@HShango
@HShango 2 жыл бұрын
That orbea bike wouldn't last in London (too many theives in London)
@sixpac6ft1
@sixpac6ft1 2 жыл бұрын
In any major city that bike would be gone.
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 2 жыл бұрын
For major cities an old steel bike would probably most suitable, equipped with road bike tires they are also relatively fast, but nobody would steal an steel bike from the 80s or 90s. The steel frame is at the same time extremely durable and gets no real damage in a lighter crash
@deblordoutdoors5783
@deblordoutdoors5783 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this.
@rantonwithanton
@rantonwithanton 2 жыл бұрын
did anyone notice Hank left his phone on the bench and then didnt go back for it \LOL LOL
@kris1398
@kris1398 2 жыл бұрын
You've left your phone on the bench Hank ..quick before you lose it
@nstrug
@nstrug 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else got Pulp’s ‘Common People’ running through their heads?
@Phones007
@Phones007 2 жыл бұрын
You need a phone holder
@HShango
@HShango 2 жыл бұрын
That is so essential (it's like the best part of being a bike courier)
@j3j326
@j3j326 2 жыл бұрын
Just came back from my ride when I saw this!!🚴‍♂️ Good Job 👍
@RaceAndRideMidwest
@RaceAndRideMidwest 2 жыл бұрын
Are we ignoring the fact that he’s on a 49cm bike? I would’ve never have guessed
@jarekp1437
@jarekp1437 2 жыл бұрын
... the ORBE paint job is absolutely fantastic
@chriswatson2769
@chriswatson2769 2 жыл бұрын
That dog with the “I smell food” 😂😂😂
@scottbert9556
@scottbert9556 2 жыл бұрын
That's where the delivery guy is knocking on your door before you hang up the phone.
@thebigchip
@thebigchip 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you picked your phone up from that bench. There’s no way I would leave that Orbea outside somebody’s house, or restaurant. That would definitely go for walkies.
@a1harrogate
@a1harrogate 2 жыл бұрын
*More of this please* ‼️ I cycled Coast To Coast for MND Association several decades ago, 150+ miles in 1 day, loved every minute.
@nicholasmartin9655
@nicholasmartin9655 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, you should change your name to Ronald Macdonald for the whole package. Jk, I love you guys and all your amazing content. Thanks for all your awesome videos!
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Global Cycling Network
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