"Future of Food: Dictatorship or Democracy?" by Vandana Shiva

[@ingaallan1345]

Dr Shiva, you are using your knowledge to protect the ordinary man from being bamboozled by the big cooperation's like Monsanto.Thank you.

[@setumomahakoe7791]

I need more info about GMO vs Organic products and the after effect on human condition for sustaining normal life ,here on earth. RSA need Dr. Vandana Shiva , Prof.Lumumba, DR. Arikana, and President Kigame , President Magufuli etc together for Africa to progress in this challenging time...Together we Stand....( Politician need not set up the RULES of the game. They causes conflicts and division ,corruption ).About food they produce ''TOXIC"" nutrition and collect TAXES )

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

@@setumomahakoe7791 Research on Organic Humanity Movement, OHM it is right on the footsteps of Dr Shiva. We can do this but we need numbers.

[@setumomahakoe7791]

@@mthokozisilanga4497 Your heart is in the right place , so am I. The point is such important info is not marketed and made available to us disconnected people but corporate focuses on maximizing profit and product pushing , procession rather than health.

[@popeyegordon]

@@setumomahakoe7791 Indian environmental scientist blasts anti-GMO celebrity Vandana Shiva for ‘baseless’ assault on biotech crops June 9, 2020 "A reader curious about celebrities’ role in the radical environmental movement emailed me recently. He wondered if …. their claims about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) were credible. [Editor’s note: Vijay Jayaraj holds an M.Sc in environmental science from the University of East Anglia, England] He was particularly interested in anti-GMO claims by …. Vandana Shiva. Shiva is no newbie to GMO. She speaks often against it. Her celebrity status gives her high visibility. Recently, Shiva claimed that Bill Gates perpetuates Monsanto’s work by promoting GMO in India. She said GMO crops have a lower yield than non-GMO. She also said farmers would not choose GMO if not for Gates’s influence. Her claims are baseless. I come from a region with high agricultural output. I know many farmers. The Indian government has no control over their choices of seeds. Farmers are concerned about their livelihood. Most prefer crops that give larger yield. Why? You can guess. They give higher profit margins. Farmers prefer [biotech] crops. Only a few experiment with organic farming. Many so-called “organic” products in India have high traces of toxins. That makes them dangerous. But they also cost twice as much as non-“organic.” Expensive, organic coconut oils from India sold in the United States may not be completely organic, despite certification. Shiva is popular in the media. But 95% of the farmers I know (hundreds in my own family circle) reject her ideas. India’s two major political parties support GMO. True, a few individuals side with the anti-GMO lobby. But the dominant position is based on solid scientific testing. Yet anti-GMO groups have blocked GM crops through court interference. Shiva is a leading agent. Shiva’s claims on GMO farming are false. She calls Golden Rice a hoax. Golden Rice is a GM variant that can help eradicate vitamin A deficiencies that cause blindness and death. Scientific authorities in nations like the US and Canada declare it safe and beneficial. Over 100 Nobel Laureates have hailed it. Although Shiva is involved in an anti-GM cartel, she is ignorant about GM. She is neither a biologist nor an expert on genetic science. Her bachelor’s degree was in physics. She specialized in the philosophy of science. Her doctoral dissertation mused on the “hidden variables and locality in quantum theory.” Vandana Shiva is a radical environmentalist. Her anti-GMO policies reduce poor farmers’ profits and deprive other poor people of affordable food. Pop-culture celebrities like her, who pontificate on matters on which they know little or nothing, are a menace to agricultural and economic development." clashdaily.com/2020/06/pop-culture-celebrities-a-hurdle-to-agricultural-and-economic-liberation/

[@epicherbalism]

I love this brilliant human! This is SUCH an important and relevant topic! Thank you for featuring Dr. Shiva!

[@jenniferhenderson3249]

It is so wonderful to hear Dr. Shiva speak so accurately on these matters. I agree with her on so many points. As a farmer, I agree that we need to be allowed to use heirloom seeds for our crops. These seeds evolved naturally and are the rightly owned property of every one of us. Rehabilitate the soil and use heirloom seeds that have a natural immunity to pests, diseases, and adverse weather conditions. The farmers will be healthier and richer. We were trusting and we got conned, it is time to own up to our mistakes of allowing our soil and crops to be compromised just so the corporations can get rich while impoverishing us. FREEDOM FOR FARMERS NOW.

[@cece3194]

And freedom for the people of the earth.

[@LauraVolpintesta]

FREEDOM FOR FARMERS

[@ElegantlyHealthyWithDoreet]

For years I have asked my clients & workshop participants to listen to Dr Vandana Shiva. But because you will not see her on corporate owned MSM , most of them have ignored my advice to the detriment of us all. We MUST listen and act accordingly, before it's too late

[@DukeGMOLOL]

Shiva should not be listened to at all.

[@anselmroyy]

@@DukeGMOLOL Why not ?

[@DukeGMOLOL]

@@anselmroyy Because she lies about agriculture and crop biotechnology.

[@anselmroyy]

@@DukeGMOLOL Proof ?

[@deba121]

Please do share if you have evidence of what you are saying?

[@netnekie8836]

Wonderful woman! Very clever, strong and powerful! Thank you

[@vincentmckinney6805]

May Dr. Shiva be blessed with long life to bring this intelligence to enlighten many.

[@Anabela0412]

This woman is incredible to the future and wake up new generations....it’s time to wake up

[@zringzor3863]

Dr. Vandana Shiva is such an intelligent woman and truly inspirational. Thank you a thousand times for the hard work you are doing for the sake of the well beeing of all the species and sentient beeings on the planet earth.

[@DukeGMOLOL]

Bwwaaaaahahahahahahahahahaaaa.

[@CAnn-ic4xo]

Excellent presentation by Dr. Vandana Shiva, a wealth of information. Thank you for posting

[@orlandofurioso9228]

She's a bright woman! I fear she's already become the enemy of the elites.

[@setumomahakoe7791]

I need more info about GMO vs Organic products and the after effect on human condition for sustaining normal life ,here on earth. RSA need Bishop Maponga ,Dr. Vandana Shiva , Prof.Lumumba, DR. Arikana, and President Kigame , President Magufuli etc together for Africa to progress in this challenging time...Together we Stand....( Politician need not set up the RULES of the game. They causes conflicts and division ,corruption ).About food they produce ''TOXIC"" nutrition and collect TAXES )

[@AudioPervert1]

it's not democracy nor dictatorship ... It's called neoliberal globalisation where the 1% will mooch and vampire upon the living planet (99%) - Yet Vandana Shiva fails to provide a tangible solution for change or resistance.

[@AudioPervert1]

@@setumomahakoe7791 it's not democracy nor dictatorship ... It's called neoliberal globalisation where the 1% will mooch and vampire upon the living planet (99%) - Yet Vandana Shiva fails to provide a tangible solution for change or resistance.

[@markovic355]

@@AudioPervert1 if 1% of the population hold all world's wealth it s more appropriate to call that system or wealth distribution autocratic or dictatorship-like than democratic. When everything is observed through the prism of money that is essentially fueled by greed we can assume that the 1% are not acting or talking in the interest of 99% than in their own interest. If you listen carefully, Dr Shiva proposed many solutions to this problem: no GMO, preserve the water by planting organic seeds that consume less water; resourceful use, etc.

[@petadawkins5564]

Yes, definitely an enemy of the elites, judging by these disparaging posts.

[@fortbumper]

Dr Shiva is a great Lady , we respect her knowledge and need to hear her finding always

[@tonyat5470]

Exactly

[@cynthiaennis3107]

Fort Bumper yes! I think she is the brightest & most fearless woman ever to try to & who is changing the planet & inspiring many thousands if not millions to do the same! Remarkable!

[@GracieAckerman]

I am a student studying holistic nutrition sciences - I absolutely love this woman

[@fanieduvenhage3947]

Is vandana a vegan

[@iaarsoismdiab7620]

*holistic nutrition psudeosciences

[@dalisanghera5630]

@Gaurav Singh aP

[@siriusBhive]

If our oligarchs gene altering GMOs and our corporate masters vaccine19 were bad for us, the government wouldn't support.... sorry, i lost myself in the irony there

[@jiewkaucheng6288]

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[@rohitpwilliams3033]

Kudos to this bold and brilliant woman! A mountain is made up of grains of sand and stone ., each one of us can do our part simply starting by the food we eat!

[@gillcoombs9855]

Eat local, eat organic

[@shammamaharaj9067]

Thank you. The world 🌎 needed to be informed about the passed and future of food.

[@raneentannous4923]

This woman should be the prime minister/president of every country!!

[@soloaskias3105]

😂😂😂 I guess you don't know what President/prime minister really means or what they stand for. A wise and awake person can't be what you mentioned here. What so called President or prime minister they are not wise neither awake. This lady is very wise and fully awake.

[@bonnieklapel1825]

This was a very eye opening talk that she gave. I’ve only recently heard her talk on a couple of podcasts and today on one of Russell Brand’s podcasts I was driven to look her up KZbin and this was the first video I’ve watched. I’ve been against Genetic Modification of plants and animals since I first heard and became aware of what it was. I’ve had my own garden and grown a lot of my own vegetables and fruits in the past but haven’t been able to in recent years as I don’t live in the same area due to a personal situation and was forced to move to where I’m at and I am not allowed to put in a garden where I live now and haven’t been able to do a small container garden yet even and it has been so hard because I thrive when I have my own garden. I have not felt whole and have felt as if I’m slowly dying inside. I didn’t even realize until this moment just how much it has affected me. And now have listened to Vandana Shiva here, I really made the connection that my mental and emotional and physical health is directly affected not just by the foods that I eat, it’s also greatly affected by directly having my hands in the soil and growing, without pesticides and other unnatural supplements, fresh living food from planting the seeds, watering, weeding, watching for slugs and snails and other destructive pests and removing them through picking them or using natural pest controls like beneficial insects, (like lady bugs and spiders), and using natural composting tea I’ve made and other organic means of soil enrichment, to the harvesting of the fruits and vegetables and then the turning the soil and working the naturally decayed plants left after harvesting back into the soil to put those nutrients back into the soil and then beginning the planning of the garden for the next spring and beginning that cycle again not only is good for my body, it enhances my brain and is vital to my mental and emotional wellbeing. It is really as vital to my heart and soul as oxygen, water, and food is to my body. It is necessary for me to grow them, to be intimately involved in caring for the plants, almost as if they were my babies and know exactly what they have been fed and to experience such joy when they grow and provide such an abundance of food that I am able to share, in fact, must share the harvest with other friends, and neighbors because I can’t let it go to waste. And the taste is better than any of the ones I could buy in the grocery store.

[@nikitasingh10997]

Thanku for taking the time out and sharing with us 🥰 really appreciate ur comment ❤️ hope u r getting to grow and have a small garden of ur own yet.

[@carlosp.3330]

Listen well our young people to this lady because you are our future, and you are our change.

[@Love.life.ashigzoya]

What an exhilarating experience listening to this inspiring lecture . World needs more of such champions in service of natureand mankind . Her voice is needed today more urgently to reach Mr Modis ears .

[@sav3nad]

I know why you are praising her, so stop acting like you understand anything else she says.

[@fortbumper]

As Dr Shiva open our eyes on the ugly truth we all need to do our part and help to save our seeds from the pirates

[@popeyegordon]

Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/ Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@popeyegordon]

@sun flower How so? I have a mountain of evidence that Shiva lies. Let's start with this open letter from 39 top scientists to Shiva the Destroyer - About the anti-biotech activist Vandana Shiva: Shiva has attracted intense criticism from the scientific community for perpetuating long-debunked myths about agriculture, biotechnology and food safety. "Shiva is scheduled to speak in late January at Stanford University and the University of California, Santa Cruz on “equitable and sustainable” farming methods. Her positions on a variety of issues have irked and at times outraged scientists who consider her a disseminator of misinformation who profits at the rate of $40,000 a lecture (or more) to spread propaganda critical of mainstream views of biotechnology. Raised in prosperity, this Indian Brahmin was formally trained as a philosopher, embracing and promoting a form of Quantum Theory that is now widely dismissed. She often falsely claims that she is a trained physicist, and those false ‘scientific’ credentials are often echoed by her supporters. The GLP has carried numerous articles about her history of misstatements and fabrications (here, here, here). She was the subject of a scathing critique, “Seeds of Doubt,” by Michael Specter of The New Yorker, which documented her history of misleading claims and what Specter maintained often verged on anti-science gibberish. For more than three decades, she has relentlessly campaigned against globalization, focusing on food and agriculture socio-economic issues and an opposition to GMOs, free trade and intellectual property rights. She alternately promotes land redistribution, indigenous and peasant farmers’ rights, organic-only food production and ayurvedic health practices over conventional medicines, all of which she characterizes as an “earth democracy” movement necessary to restore “harmony,” people and nature. Shiva receives financial backing from high-profile activist groups such as the Center for Food Safety, which shares offices with her in Washington. Among her most controversial talking points is her false claim that there was no hunger in India prior to the Green Revolution. The truth is almost 180 degrees the opposite, as the Green Revolution, marked in part by the introduction of synthetic chemical fertilizers and pesticides enable massive increases in food production. A recent review of the evidence shows, “the production of cereal crops tripled during this period, with only a 30% increase in land area cultivated.” Shiva also blames the Green Revolution for increasing poverty, indebtedness and despair among farmers. Her notorious allegation that the introduction of insect-resistant GMO crops in India led many farmers to commit suicide has been evaluated and dismissed as inaccurate. Shiva is also a fierce opponent of so-called Golden Rice, a crop engineered to combat vitamin A deficiency in developing countries. In response to the scheduling of her two talks at Stanford and UC Santa Cruz, 39 scientists from around the world co-authored an open letter to both universities protesting the invitations. The signatories told the GLP that their aim is to alert the events’ organizers, participants and attendees to the numerous falsehoods in Shiva’s philosophy. The letter, reproduced below in full, blasts Shiva for her “use of anti-scientific rhetoric to support unethical positions.” Neither university has scheduled a scientist to present the evidence-based case for crop biotechnology." geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/01/14/39-biotech-experts-open-letter-protests-anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shivas-anti-science-talks-at-stanford-and-uc-santa-cruz/

[@popeyegordon]

@sun flower "In June 2014, Indian and international media reported that Navdanya and Vandana Shiva were named in a leaked, classified report by India's Intelligence Bureau (IB), which was prepared for the Indian Prime Minister's Office.[47] The leaked IB report raises concerns over the foreign-funding of Indian NGOs whose campaigning activities, the report claims, are hampering India's growth and development. In its report, the IB said that Indian NGOs, including Navdanya, receive money from foreign donors under the 'charitable garb' of campaigning for human rights or women's equality, but instead use the money for nefarious purposes. "These foreign donors lead local NGOs to provide field reports which are used to build a record against India and serve as tools for the strategic foreign policy interests of the Western governments," the IB report states.[48] Investigative journalist Michael Specter, in an article in The New Yorker on 25 August 2014 entitled "Seeds of Doubt",[10] raised concerns over a number of Shiva's claims regarding GMOs and some of her campaigning methods. He wrote: "Shiva's absolutism about G.M.O.s can lead her in strange directions. In 1999, ten thousand people were killed and millions were left homeless when a cyclone hit India's eastern coastal state of Orissa. When the U.S. government dispatched grain and soy to help feed the desperate victims, Shiva held a news conference in New Delhi and said that the donation was proof that "the United States has been using the Orissa victims as guinea pigs" for genetically-engineered products, although she made no mention about that those same products are approved and consumed in the United States. She also wrote to the international relief agency Oxfam to say that she hoped it wasn't planning to send genetically modified foods to feed the starving survivors."[10] Cases of plagiarism have been pointed out against Vandana Shiva. Birendra Nayak has published on her plagiarism involving copying verbatim from a 1996 article in Voice Gopalpur in her 1998 book Stronger than Steel.[51] Several paragraphs of an article by S Faizi on the Plachimada/Coca-Cola issue published in The Statesman in 2015 were plagiarized by Vandana Shiva in an article she published a year later.[52] Journalist Keith Kloor, in an article published in Discover on 23 October 2014 entitled "The Rich Allure of a Peasant Champion", revealed that Shiva charges US$40,000 per speaking lecture, plus a business-class air ticket from New Delhi. Kloor wrote: "She is often heralded as a tireless 'defender of the poor,' someone who has courageously taken her stand among the peasant farmers of India. Let it be noted, however, that this champion of the downtrodden doesn't exactly live a peasant's lifestyle."[53] Wikipedia - Shiva en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandana_Shiva#Indian_Intelligence_Bureau_Investigation

[@popeyegordon]

@sun flower "While I appreciate Vandana Shiva’s passion for the environment and crop diversity, most of her claims have been readily debunked. Her campaigns are subsidized by millions of dollars of contributions by organic food companies to spread lies about conventional agriculture to push an agenda. In my opinion, it is admirable if someone chooses to be an organic farmer-there are many ways to address food security issues as long as we promote cooperation and coexistence-but there is something wrong with lying to people for profit, such as her debunked claims that GMOs are provoking Indian farmers to commit suicide. [Read GLP GMO FAQ addressing Shiva’s accusation]. She doesn’t back up her claims with reputable evidence and what she claims about conventional agriculture isn’t backed by science. Needless to say, a huge percentage of what came out of Shiva’s mouth was myths and misrepresentations. She spent a lot of time tearing into Norman Borlaug, the scientist and ‘father of the Green Revolution-he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal before his death-and is credited with saving hundreds of millions of lives, and accused farmers of being “the last caretakers of the land.” Seriously? Who does that? Shiva is no friend to modern farmers or technology. Her misinformation was appalling and needless to say I was not impressed. It was painful to sit through her nonsense, and the whole time I was wondering if she has ever even ridden in a combine or ever been to a large scale farm a day in her life. While she railed against “industrial, chemically intensive agriculture,” I wish she knew that farmers today are using less toxic chemicals than ever before. When complaining about soil and water quality, I wish she would connect with us and learn that farmers enroll in conservation programs and are the ultimate stewards of the land. Organic and conventional farms have a lot in common: both types of farms may or may not use chemicals, both types can do conservation methods like soil testing, crop rotation, cover crops, etc. This is not the agenda she had though. Apparently only organic farmers are concerned about sustainability, which couldn’t be further from the truth. Shiva also shared the myth that GMOs kill bees, all while completely ignoring the fact that GMOs eliminate our need to spray insecticides, which helps beneficial insects. GMOs cause suicides, Monsanto is trying to poison everyone, monocultures! Patents! Seed saving! The list of myths goes on. The reality is that farmers have hundreds of seed companies to choose from, all different types of crops can have patents including organic, and today’s farmers don’t want to save seeds. My head was spinning with how disconnected she is to modern farming and how much she really doesn’t understand our industry, while she gets paid to talk about this with no formal training or educational background in agriculture. Say what, now? But there was hope! I was happy to know that there was a Q&A afterwards and I wasn’t going to sit back and let Shiva’s false accusations go without saying something. I encouraged everyone to connect with us as farmers. I took issue with her referring to pesticides as “poison,” as organic production uses pesticides too, and they are sometimes more toxic and more frequently used than the chemicals used by non-organic farmers. By her definition ALL food would be poison, but as any scientist would tell you, it’s the dose that makes the poison. I mentioned that when we spray the herbicide glyphosate (Monsanto’s Roundup) on our fields it is at a rate of 22 ounces per acre, which is less than 2 soda cans over an area of land the size of a football field. We only spray two days out of an entire year. Simply said, the food conventional farmers grow is not scary. It’s thanks to biotechnology that we are using less chemicals than ever before and no longer having to spray insecticides, which HELPS beneficial insects like bees, and does not hurt them as she misleadingly claimed. Our farm holds the award for “Iowa farmers of the year” in soil and water conservation because, as a result of modern technology including the use of genetically modified seeds, we use no till, cover crops and crop rotation. Biotechnology is doing great things for farmers and allows us to grow more food on less land while using less water, fuel, and inputs. Shiva gave me the stink eye but didn’t say a word while I was speaking, other than “thanks.” I really didn’t know what to expect from the crowd, but surprisingly, I was applauded! After I left I was approached by a group of people who thanked me. They said “You did a great job. I applaud your bravery. We appreciate hearing multiple sides of a story. You are welcome here,” etc. It was great. I was also approached by a security guard who wanted me to be aware that he would be following me around a bit to ensure my safety in case anyone tried to cause trouble. He even walked me to my car so that was nice. Surprisingly, not a single hater. None. I want to share this story to encourage you all to stand up for the truth. For farmers, agronomists, scientists, etc speaking up HAS to be a part of our job description nowadays. We are the experts, we are the ones that have the most education and firsthand expertise on the topic. Don’t let misinformed activists tell our stories and don’t be afraid to step out of your comfort zone. A situation that looks intimidating could be the best opportunity to educate. If we all do our part to advocate for science and agriculture, we CAN make a difference." geneticliteracyproject.org/2016/11/21/iowa-farmer-challenges-activist-vandana-shiva-myth-filled-anti-gmo-lecture/

[@popeyegordon]

@sun flower Indian environmental scientist blasts anti-GMO celebrity Vandana Shiva for ‘baseless’ assault on biotech crops June 9, 2020 "A reader curious about celebrities’ role in the radical environmental movement emailed me recently. He wondered if …. their claims about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) were credible. [Editor’s note: Vijay Jayaraj holds an M.Sc in environmental science from the University of East Anglia, England] He was particularly interested in anti-GMO claims by …. Vandana Shiva. Shiva is no newbie to GMO. She speaks often against it. Her celebrity status gives her high visibility. Recently, Shiva claimed that Bill Gates perpetuates Monsanto’s work by promoting GMO in India. She said GMO crops have a lower yield than non-GMO. She also said farmers would not choose GMO if not for Gates’s influence. Her claims are baseless. I come from a region with high agricultural output. I know many farmers. The Indian government has no control over their choices of seeds. Farmers are concerned about their livelihood. Most prefer crops that give larger yield. Why? You can guess. They give higher profit margins. Farmers prefer [biotech] crops. Only a few experiment with organic farming. Many so-called “organic” products in India have high traces of toxins. That makes them dangerous. But they also cost twice as much as non-“organic.” Expensive, organic coconut oils from India sold in the United States may not be completely organic, despite certification. Shiva is popular in the media. But 95% of the farmers I know (hundreds in my own family circle) reject her ideas. India’s two major political parties support GMO. True, a few individuals side with the anti-GMO lobby. But the dominant position is based on solid scientific testing. Yet anti-GMO groups have blocked GM crops through court interference. Shiva is a leading agent. Shiva’s claims on GMO farming are false. She calls Golden Rice a hoax. Golden Rice is a GM variant that can help eradicate vitamin A deficiencies that cause blindness and death. Scientific authorities in nations like the US and Canada declare it safe and beneficial. Over 100 Nobel Laureates have hailed it. Although Shiva is involved in an anti-GM cartel, she is ignorant about GM. She is neither a biologist nor an expert on genetic science. Her bachelor’s degree was in physics. She specialized in the philosophy of science. Her doctoral dissertation mused on the “hidden variables and locality in quantum theory.” Vandana Shiva is a radical environmentalist. Her anti-GMO policies reduce poor farmers’ profits and deprive other poor people of affordable food. Pop-culture celebrities like her, who pontificate on matters on which they know little or nothing, are a menace to agricultural and economic development." clashdaily.com/2020/06/pop-culture-celebrities-a-hurdle-to-agricultural-and-economic-liberation/

[@vishnumurthy2081]

My God. Divine knowledge , hardwork, Love and service to the mankind. After this speech I felt as if I read 100 good books on Environment & Sustainibility. We are all interested to protect and contribute towards the world sustainibility. Can you please tell us how we can associate with your organisation? Thank you all a million for organising such a humanitarian event. It gives the humanity hope that good people can get together to serve mother earth bringing her back to its beauty for us and the future generation. Dr.Vandana Shiva , I just want to offer my namaste to your lotus feet. Tears of joy for your commitment to create awareness. Tears of sorrow that people who have no idea are making decisions for 7 billion people. Together we will change it.thanks & pranams.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@DukeGMOLOL]

Shiva would starve a couple billion of those 7 billion people.

[@vishnumurthy2081]

@@DukeGMOLOL starving is acceptable brother Duke than killing the world through chemicals ; every person on this earth is here for a brief period of time.Did you notice that the rich of the world became More richer during the pandemic by NOT WORKING and poor became more poorer because they couldn't/not allowed to work for no fault of theirs. If intelligent people are allowed to acquire the resources of the world unlimited no human will be free; it would be a torture to live here. We should not allow that to happen for humanity. Otherwise we are going back in history to barbarianism.By God's grace no human being is immortal. But we are reducing His grace every day by being inhuman. Hopefully we see light at the end of the tunnel.I am hopeful.thanks.

[@GenomicWizard]

She is not an ecologist, but a pseudo-ecologist. You can't pretend to be an ecologist while rubing the alt right in the right way and rejecting science. She deserve no more credit than any of this climate denialist or antivaxer.

[@sknair5731]

I m wondering people have given thumbs up to a video that shows violence, religious issues, hateful behavior. It goes to millions of thumbs up and endorsements. How come such a nice videos get only few 100’s thumbs up! Are humans out of mind? I m personally worried and the importance of humanity is increasingly important. We need to rethink the educational system. HATS OF TO Dr. VANDANA SHIVA.

[@popeyegordon]

Shiva and the haters who upvote her are the evil here. About the anti-biotech activist Vandana Shiva: Shiva has attracted intense criticism from the scientific community for perpetuating long-debunked myths about agriculture, biotechnology and food safety. "Shiva is scheduled to speak in late January at Stanford University and the University of California, Santa Cruz on “equitable and sustainable” farming methods. Her positions on a variety of issues have irked and at times outraged scientists who consider her a disseminator of misinformation who profits at the rate of $40,000 a lecture (or more) to spread propaganda critical of mainstream views of biotechnology. Raised in prosperity, this Indian Brahmin was formally trained as a philosopher, embracing and promoting a form of Quantum Theory that is now widely dismissed. She often falsely claims that she is a trained physicist, and those false ‘scientific’ credentials are often echoed by her supporters. The GLP has carried numerous articles about her history of misstatements and fabrications (here, here, here). She was the subject of a scathing critique, “Seeds of Doubt,” by Michael Specter of The New Yorker, which documented her history of misleading claims and what Specter maintained often verged on anti-science gibberish. For more than three decades, she has relentlessly campaigned against globalization, focusing on food and agriculture socio-economic issues and an opposition to GMOs, free trade and intellectual property rights. She alternately promotes land redistribution, indigenous and peasant farmers’ rights, organic-only food production and ayurvedic health practices over conventional medicines, all of which she characterizes as an “earth democracy” movement necessary to restore “harmony,” people and nature. Shiva receives financial backing from high-profile activist groups such as the Center for Food Safety, which shares offices with her in Washington. Among her most controversial talking points is her false claim that there was no hunger in India prior to the Green Revolution. The truth is almost 180 degrees the opposite, as the Green Revolution, marked in part by the introduction of synthetic chemical fertilizers and pesticides enable massive increases in food production. A recent review of the evidence shows, “the production of cereal crops tripled during this period, with only a 30% increase in land area cultivated.” Shiva also blames the Green Revolution for increasing poverty, indebtedness and despair among farmers. Her notorious allegation that the introduction of insect-resistant GMO crops in India led many farmers to commit suicide has been evaluated and dismissed as inaccurate. Shiva is also a fierce opponent of so-called Golden Rice, a crop engineered to combat vitamin A deficiency in developing countries. In response to the scheduling of her two talks at Stanford and UC Santa Cruz, 39 scientists from around the world co-authored an open letter to both universities protesting the invitations. The signatories told the GLP that their aim is to alert the events’ organizers, participants and attendees to the numerous falsehoods in Shiva’s philosophy. The letter, reproduced below in full, blasts Shiva for her “use of anti-scientific rhetoric to support unethical positions.” Neither university has scheduled a scientist to present the evidence-based case for crop biotechnology." geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/01/14/39-biotech-experts-open-letter-protests-anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shivas-anti-science-talks-at-stanford-and-uc-santa-cruz/

[@johndias631]

@@popeyegordon Scientists on payrolls of big corporations don't count

[@popeyegordon]

@@johndias631 Your conspiracy theory is totally invalid. Scientists work in non-profits, NGOs, collegiate, private, public, independent, governmental and and corporate. They all subscribe to the exact same international standard of science called the peer review process. Part of peer review is stating any conflicts of interest in funding which has to be evaluated before a study is approved and published. The science community also has its own self policing force called RetractionWatch.org

[@popeyegordon]

@@johndias631 Look at the list of signatories for this open letter to Shiva from 39 top scientists - how many work for your corporate bogeyman? Of those, how will you prove they are liars when what they say exactly jives with what the independent scientists say also? When you do your research you will discover they all are accredited with peer reviewed studies and highly respected in their fields: *Shiva has attracted intense criticism from the scientific community for perpetuating long-debunked myths about agriculture, biotechnology and food safety. * "Shiva is scheduled to speak in late January at Stanford University and the University of California, Santa Cruz on “equitable and sustainable” farming methods. Her positions on a variety of issues have irked and at times outraged scientists who consider her a disseminator of misinformation who profits at the rate of $40,000 a lecture (or more) to spread propaganda critical of mainstream views of biotechnology. Raised in prosperity, this Indian Brahmin was formally trained as a philosopher, embracing and promoting a form of Quantum Theory that is now widely dismissed. She often falsely claims that she is a trained physicist, and those false ‘scientific’ credentials are often echoed by her supporters. The GLP has carried numerous articles about her history of misstatements and fabrications (here, here, here). She was the subject of a scathing critique, “Seeds of Doubt,” by Michael Specter of The New Yorker, which documented her history of misleading claims and what Specter maintained often verged on anti-science gibberish. For more than three decades, she has relentlessly campaigned against globalization, focusing on food and agriculture socio-economic issues and an opposition to GMOs, free trade and intellectual property rights. She alternately promotes land redistribution, indigenous and peasant farmers’ rights, organic-only food production and ayurvedic health practices over conventional medicines, all of which she characterizes as an “earth democracy” movement necessary to restore “harmony,” people and nature. Shiva receives financial backing from high-profile activist groups such as the Center for Food Safety, which shares offices with her in Washington. Among her most controversial talking points is her false claim that there was no hunger in India prior to the Green Revolution. The truth is almost 180 degrees the opposite, as the Green Revolution, marked in part by the introduction of synthetic chemical fertilizers and pesticides enable massive increases in food production. A recent review of the evidence shows, “the production of cereal crops tripled during this period, with only a 30% increase in land area cultivated.” Shiva also blames the Green Revolution for increasing poverty, indebtedness and despair among farmers. Her notorious allegation that the introduction of insect-resistant GMO crops in India led many farmers to commit suicide has been evaluated and dismissed as inaccurate. Shiva is also a fierce opponent of so-called Golden Rice, a crop engineered to combat vitamin A deficiency in developing countries. In response to the scheduling of her two talks at Stanford and UC Santa Cruz, 39 scientists from around the world co-authored an open letter to both universities protesting the invitations. The signatories told the GLP that their aim is to alert the events’ organizers, participants and attendees to the numerous falsehoods in Shiva’s philosophy. The letter, reproduced below in full, blasts Shiva for her “use of anti-scientific rhetoric to support unethical positions.” Neither university has scheduled a scientist to present the evidence-based case for crop biotechnology." geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/01/14/39-biotech-experts-open-letter-protests-anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shivas-anti-science-talks-at-stanford-and-uc-santa-cruz/

[@setumomahakoe7791]

I need more info about GMO vs Organic products and the after effect on human condition for sustaining normal life ,here on earth. RSA need Bishop Maponga , Dr. Vandana Shiva , Prof.Lumumba, DR. Arikana, and President Kigame , President Magufuli etc together for Africa to progress in this challenging time...Together we Stand....( Politician need not set up the RULES of the game. They causes conflicts and division ,corruption ).About food they produce ''TOXIC"" nutrition and collect TAXES )

[@JiHyeonHan-j3u]

I am becoming a fan of dr.shiva. she has thought of both human and the environment as well. Ban all the products that destroys human, nature and poisons our food. 💪

[@gortagnan]

serendipidus1 Don’t Know But on a simple level just try to buy local organic food or grow yr own ? (If you are talking at food level)

[@popeyegordon]

Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/ Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@popeyegordon]

Nothing is being banned, in fact the use of modern GMO crop science increases every year. 5 African nations adopted it in the last year as India falls further behind and becomes more hungry.

[@popeyegordon]

@serendipidus1 Your blathering post is far too long, I won't read it. But you screwed up right off the bat, pesticides have been available to farmers for much longer than the new GMO pesticide glyphosate which is the least toxic of all, suicide attempts with glyphosate will fail. And what Indian farmers want most is the pesticide free Bt cotton seed which means NO pesticide required! Therefore my link is very positive for the safety of GMO crops and does not link them with suicides. You failed again.

[@popeyegordon]

@serendipidus1 *A new study on the increase in the heath of farmers since GMO crop science has become wide spread: * Peer reviewed and published 27 September 2019 "GM crops, particularly Bt cotton, has resulted in significant reductions in pesticide poisoning cases due to reduced applications and reduced levels of insecticide exposure. Reductions in farmer pesticide poisonings have been quantified in China, India, Pakistan and South Africa. Often cases of pesticide poisoning are not formally reported to health centers and the results on pesticide poisoning may be underestimated due to the lack of reporting. In South Africa, farmers reduced pesticide applications from 11.2 per year to 3.8, with reported cases of pesticide poisoning declining from over 50 per year to less than 10 over the first four years of Bt cotton adoption (Bennet et al. 2003). One-third of non-Bt cotton farmers in China reported cases of pesticide poisoning, compared to 9% of Bt cotton producing farmers (Hossain et al. 2004). Assessing the health impacts in India, reveals a reduction in cases of pesticide poisoning of 2.4 - 9 million cases per year (Kouser and Qaim 2011). Cumulatively, since 2003, when Bt cotton was first commercialized in India, a minimum of 38 million fewer instances of pesticide poisoning have occurred, with an upper potential of 144 million. Farmers in Pakistan growing non-Bt cotton reported up to seven instances of pesticide poisoning in the growing season with 35% reporting no instances, versus Bt cotton farmers reporting up to six poisonings with 45% reporting none (Kouser and Qaim 2013). A medical assessment of 246 Chinese farmers, involving 35 health indicators, found that fungicides associated with the production of non-Bt cotton had linkages to damaged liver function, while the insecticides used in non-Bt cotton production may be associated with severe nerve damage (Zhang et al. 2016). The use of non-glyphosate tolerant crops was found to likely reduce renal function and decrease serum folic acid. CHANGES IN FARMER SUICIDES Mental health challenges and issues affect all walks of life and economic sectors, with agriculture being no different. Access to sufficient mental health resources can be problematic within the agriculture sector due to rural areas, remote locations and lack of access to mental health support systems. Unfortunately, suicide is a concern in agriculture. India has one of the highest suicide ratesin the world and research has examined the relationship between farmer suicide and the adoption of GM cotton. Research examining the relationship between farm suicide and Bt cotton adoption revealed a plateauing of the suicide rate following the commercialization of Bt cotton (Gruère and Sengupta 2011). Farmer suicides were trending upward from 15,000 per year, peaking in 2004, the year after Bt cotton was first commercialized in India. By 2007, the actual suicide rate was 25% below the extrapolated suicide rate. Cumulatively, the reduced rate of suicide associated with the adoption of Bt cotton represents the prevention of a minimum of 75,000 farmer suicides. LOWERING CANCER INCIDENCES The development of insect resistant crop varieties has begun to have a noticeable potential to improve human health through the reduction of cancer rates. Prior to the commercialization of Bt crops, maize in particular, insect damage to the harvested crop increased the potential for the development of harmful health effects. A study of 21 years of maize production quantified that Bt maize contained lower concentrations of mycotoxins (29%), fumonisins (31%) and thricotecens (37%) (Pellegrino et al. 2018). Mycotoxins are both toxic and carcinogenic to humans and animals and are considerably more concerning in developing economy food systems where access to food safety toxicity tests are less prevalent. Fumonisins are correlated to being the cause of higher rates of neural tube defects in high maize-based diets (Missmer et al. 2006). With food security challenges existing in many developing countries corn containing mycotoxins are consumed as part of the household diet due the lack of any other option. NUTRITIONAL BENEFITS GM crops have made significant contributions to address the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, in particular goals one (reducing poverty) and two (reducing hunger). While increased yields have contributed to higher household incomes, which reduces poverty, the increased yields have also enhanced household food security. Biofortified GM crops have been adopted, increasing micronutrient availability (Hefferon 2014). Nutritionally enhanced foods improve an individual’s nutrient intake, preventing and/or treating leading causes of death such as cancer, diabetes, cardiovascular disease and hypertension. Improving the nutritional content of daily food consumption certainly has day to day effects, but of significant importance are the long term effects that extend for decades over the course of an individual’s lifetime. In many instances, improving macronutrients (proteins, carbohydrates, lipids, fiber) and micronutrients (vitamins, minerals, functional metabolites) has significant childhood health improvements, such as reducing blindness due to the lack of vitamin availability. Improved food nutrient content, especially the increase in mineral availability, contributes to improved immunity systems and reduces stunting. In many developing countries, plant-based nutrient intake accounts for one hundred per cent of an individual’s nutrient diet, further highlighting the importance of nutritionally enhanced crop derived foods. As the later in life benefits from improved childhood nutrition are better understood, the full value of nutritionally enhanced GM crops and foods, may not be realized for several decades." see the full paper at onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/pbi.13261

[@sharonstrauss1146]

God bless you .Reminds me of a saying. Man plants the apple tree but God knows how many apples the tree will have.Man plants the seed but God makes it grow.Lets continue to plant and as she says focus on seeds and sharing of seeds and saving them for future generations in seed banks and herbaria.May God continue to bless her and her work.

[@johnkipruto18]

Dr.Vandana Shiva, I am a Catholic Priest from Kenya.I am your disciple for your believe in ORGANIC Food(Seed).I share your entire knowledge and campaign the proponents of GMO's which has been embraced foolishly many sovereign Government.I am with you 100%.Please kind avenues of speaking to the whole PLANET.Fr.John Kangogo Kipruto

[@DukeGMOLOL]

You are wrong John, GM crops are safe and beneficial and farmers love them. They dramatically reduce insecticide use which is safer for farmers and people nearby.

[@godara2op566]

@@DukeGMOLOL elaborate why u think they are safe. If u think it is the case do disprove the viral marketing case against the researchers. Pls provide some reasonable argument against the shrinking brains and enlarged pancreas in rats

[@DukeGMOLOL]

@@godara2op566 Not a single agency or pesticide regulator in the world rates glyphosate a carcinogen. None. Not a single OECD compliant 453 study shows ANY harm of any sort whatsoever below the NOAEL. And since real world exposures are many, many magnitudes below the NOAEL there is no harm of any sort from those minute exposures. There are no shrinking brains from glyphosate exposure.

[@pepper419]

@@DukeGMOLOL It's nice to see that Google has taken most of your bs off line.

[@DukeGMOLOL]

@@pepper419 Nothing of mine has been taken off line.

[@huyu3007]

I love listening to this Lady Dr. Shiva a living legend and makes so much sense.

[@MrJonblundmusic]

One of the few most important individuals for the human kind. Not to put anyone else down. Everyone is of Worth. Point is we all need individuals like this one. Bless her.

[@anni730]

Great courage is alive. Save our planet and feed the hungry.

[@popeyegordon]

Do that by ousting Shiva who is a professional fraud and the enemy of all farmers. She actively works to prevent Indian farmers from getting the seed they demand.

[@miebakabrownweli]

L

[@Sketcher86]

@@popeyegordon We don't need no more evil seed of corporate greed.

[@popeyegordon]

@@Sketcher86 That is correct! The evil corporate greed of the international organic foods cartel pays Shiva to lie to you. Stop the fraud by using GMO seed which is now mostly made by the government programs in countries where it is used. They give it away free - how can you beat the very best seed for free? Indian farmers are jealous as hell of Bangladeshi Bt brinjal which India won't allow them to plant because of lobbyists like Shiva. Look how well this insect free Bt brinjal works for them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHardqdra9xjhrc

[@popeyegordon]

@@Sketcher86 *Indian environmental scientist blasts anti-GMO celebrity Vandana Shiva for ‘baseless’ assault on biotech crops* June 9, 2020 "A reader curious about celebrities’ role in the radical environmental movement emailed me recently. He wondered if …. their claims about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) were credible. [Editor’s note: Vijay Jayaraj holds an M.Sc in environmental science from the University of East Anglia, England] He was particularly interested in anti-GMO claims by …. Vandana Shiva. Shiva is no newbie to GMO. She speaks often against it. Her celebrity status gives her high visibility. Recently, Shiva claimed that Bill Gates perpetuates Monsanto’s work by promoting GMO in India. She said GMO crops have a lower yield than non-GMO. She also said farmers would not choose GMO if not for Gates’s influence. Her claims are baseless. I come from a region with high agricultural output. I know many farmers. The Indian government has no control over their choices of seeds. Farmers are concerned about their livelihood. Most prefer crops that give larger yield. Why? You can guess. They give higher profit margins. Farmers prefer [biotech] crops. Only a few experiment with organic farming. Many so-called “organic” products in India have high traces of toxins. That makes them dangerous. But they also cost twice as much as non-“organic.” Expensive, organic coconut oils from India sold in the United States may not be completely organic, despite certification. Shiva is popular in the media. But 95% of the farmers I know (hundreds in my own family circle) reject her ideas. India’s two major political parties support GMO. True, a few individuals side with the anti-GMO lobby. But the dominant position is based on solid scientific testing. Yet anti-GMO groups have blocked GM crops through court interference. Shiva is a leading agent. Shiva’s claims on GMO farming are false. She calls Golden Rice a hoax. Golden Rice is a GM variant that can help eradicate vitamin A deficiencies that cause blindness and death. Scientific authorities in nations like the US and Canada declare it safe and beneficial. Over 100 Nobel Laureates have hailed it. Although Shiva is involved in an anti-GM cartel, she is ignorant about GM. She is neither a biologist nor an expert on genetic science. Her bachelor’s degree was in physics. She specialized in the philosophy of science. Her doctoral dissertation mused on the “hidden variables and locality in quantum theory.” Vandana Shiva is a radical environmentalist. Her anti-GMO policies reduce poor farmers’ profits and deprive other poor people of affordable food. Pop-culture celebrities like her, who pontificate on matters on which they know little or nothing, are a menace to agricultural and economic development." clashdaily.com/2020/06/pop-culture-celebrities-a-hurdle-to-agricultural-and-economic-liberation/

[@tacywest8842]

Seeds the gifts of the Gods. This is such valuable work and not to be owned and patented. Greed and hate move the Gates of this world.

[@popeyegordon]

Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/ Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@tonyat5470]

Gates is the devil!

[@l.m.892]

I understood the motivation of Gates when he pushed computers on the world - like a drug dealer. People in developing countries need help in the the form of life sustaining products (good food). You can't eat a computer, and it doesn't produce food as a natural byproduct of its operation. Food is a necessity. Computers are not.

[@whodoyouthinkheare]

When she mentioned viral marketing crime, i had goosebump. Ive always thought about that but i was reluctant to share because i dont have anything to prove or read the studies.

[@popeyegordon]

Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/ Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@JoseMaria-ce4dh]

Farmer suicides are not that complicated. Farmers are tethered to the land. When they loose their livelihood through the corruption of forces barely comprehended; they have nowhere to go. A model of capitalist agriculture and corruption that does far more life-taking than life-giving for the future. A system of radical evil that is insidious and dominates everywhere. If it wasn't for people like Vandanaji these farmers would not have a voice. And we would never find out about the radical evil in American capitalism and it's unfortunate conexion with the rest of the 🌎. FIGHT!

[@popeyegordon]

@@JoseMaria-ce4dh The FACTS opposed to your personal opinion reveal the true causes of suicides. Your attempt to post more false information on this page packed with lies is of no help or defense. Farmers don't 'lose their livelihoods', they struggle with nature, water shortages and pests they can not meet because the Indian government spends on nuclear program instead of farmers. Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@popeyegordon]

@@JoseMaria-ce4dh Every time a farmer takes his produce to market and charges any more than it cost him to grow it he is practicing CAPITALISM you moron. The evil here is your ignorance and Shiva the professional fraud. Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/

[@JoseMaria-ce4dh]

@@popeyegordon That which you describe is not capitalism. It's a simple economic transaction. Capitalism on the other hand is a system of economic exploitation which has been refined to a science in the USA. Where workers are exploited ruthlessly and have no voice or partnership in the production process. So they don't have a share in the profits that are generated thanks to their labor. They not only don't share profits but they also dont have a say in what to do with these profits either. A fundamentally unjust and undemocratic system of commerce that produces all kinds of inequality: Capitalism, a social evil. Thankfully, on its way out of history.

[@helenlintrepide9791]

Am a simple farmer... And l see her point... I stand with her... I really appreciate her efforts.... And am passing this global

[@etandrepont]

Genetically engineered and modified plants such as tobacco, wheat, barley, rye, soy and corn were processed in the 30’s, and 40’s by biotech engineers before the term GMO’s. I believe it all started with increasing the nicotine in tobacco plants. And, then the rest mentioned above happened for distribution to poor countries. This informative lecture is profoundly important for the masses. Thank you for making this public for global awareness. ETA🌹

[@kosilanaidoo2476]

Spiritual brilliance personified

[@stellayates4227]

This lecture and the work of Dr Shiva should be essential content for all univeristy studies in this field.

[@DukeGMOLOL]

Lectures and work exposing the fraud that is Vandana Shiva should be essential content for all university studies in this field.

[@cigh7445]

E.F. Schumacher. Vandana Shiva. When will the world listen to sense and fairness.

[@juliamarple4554]

He who controls the food, controls the people.

[@ahagamama]

A Real Hero of the Earth! Amazing energy!!!!

[@ErikRothFfM]

Respect and approval (I agree to) Mrs. Dr. Shiva. ❤🌿🔥🍀🌒🌕🌘🍀🔥🌿❤ Thank you and Namasté, Blessed Be.

[@Kobe29261]

The hypocrisy is in all of us - if your retirement fund includes Monsanto or companies like them you are part of the problem. Let everyone vote our conscience and abstain from investing money in genetic-engineering companies like Syngenta with the goal of patents and their ship will be grounded!

[@juneribaldi7093]

Yes. Thank you Sister Spirit

[@BestdaughtereverEver]

I admire this woman’s intelligence. US citizens need to watch this video.

[@popeyegordon]

Shiva is nothing more than a professional fraud. Real scientists, some US citizens, are revolted by her claims. They wrote an open letter to her - About the anti-biotech activist Vandana Shiva: *Shiva has attracted intense criticism from the scientific community for perpetuating long-debunked myths about agriculture, biotechnology and food safety. * "Shiva is scheduled to speak in late January at Stanford University and the University of California, Santa Cruz on “equitable and sustainable” farming methods. Her positions on a variety of issues have irked and at times outraged scientists who consider her a disseminator of misinformation who profits at the rate of $40,000 a lecture (or more) to spread propaganda critical of mainstream views of biotechnology. Raised in prosperity, this Indian Brahmin was formally trained as a philosopher, embracing and promoting a form of Quantum Theory that is now widely dismissed. She often falsely claims that she is a trained physicist, and those false ‘scientific’ credentials are often echoed by her supporters. The GLP has carried numerous articles about her history of misstatements and fabrications (here, here, here). She was the subject of a scathing critique, “Seeds of Doubt,” by Michael Specter of The New Yorker, which documented her history of misleading claims and what Specter maintained often verged on anti-science gibberish. For more than three decades, she has relentlessly campaigned against globalization, focusing on food and agriculture socio-economic issues and an opposition to GMOs, free trade and intellectual property rights. She alternately promotes land redistribution, indigenous and peasant farmers’ rights, organic-only food production and ayurvedic health practices over conventional medicines, all of which she characterizes as an “earth democracy” movement necessary to restore “harmony,” people and nature. Shiva receives financial backing from high-profile activist groups such as the Center for Food Safety, which shares offices with her in Washington. Among her most controversial talking points is her false claim that there was no hunger in India prior to the Green Revolution. The truth is almost 180 degrees the opposite, as the Green Revolution, marked in part by the introduction of synthetic chemical fertilizers and pesticides enable massive increases in food production. A recent review of the evidence shows, “the production of cereal crops tripled during this period, with only a 30% increase in land area cultivated.” Shiva also blames the Green Revolution for increasing poverty, indebtedness and despair among farmers. Her notorious allegation that the introduction of insect-resistant GMO crops in India led many farmers to commit suicide has been evaluated and dismissed as inaccurate. Shiva is also a fierce opponent of so-called Golden Rice, a crop engineered to combat vitamin A deficiency in developing countries. In response to the scheduling of her two talks at Stanford and UC Santa Cruz, 39 scientists from around the world co-authored an open letter to both universities protesting the invitations. The signatories told the GLP that their aim is to alert the events’ organizers, participants and attendees to the numerous falsehoods in Shiva’s philosophy. The letter, reproduced below in full, blasts Shiva for her “use of anti-scientific rhetoric to support unethical positions.” Neither university has scheduled a scientist to present the evidence-based case for crop biotechnology." geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/01/14/39-biotech-experts-open-letter-protests-anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shivas-anti-science-talks-at-stanford-and-uc-santa-cruz/

[@jamespotts4848]

We need leaders who won't sell us out to the highest bidder. Where can we find leaders like that? We must find them now.

[@godara2op566]

exactly its time for action to find and build a community

[@Freefolkcreate]

This woman is one. But the reality is we each have to become leaders rather than followers. This is our biggest problem. We keep waiting for other people to do what we need to do and become.

[@Dt.wt_loss3027]

Long live mam Dr.Shiva. well explained about patenting and pirating.

[@TheBoober56]

I have been listening and sharing your speeches here in the US all day. I worry I will be blocked from Facebook. Thank you for everything you are doing for our earth and we humans and bees, animals ! God Bless you for standing strong!

[@Dee-zy5gh]

So insightful, so inspirational. Respect!

[@popeyegordon]

So dishonest!! Disdain!

[@popeyegordon]

@sun flower Yes. Thank you. YOU are the friend of ignorant lying conspiratards. I'm on the high road with Gates who saved 122 million lives while you did nothing. What of it?

[@pepper419]

We need a lot more people like you Dr. Shiva. Keep up the good work.

[@eiffeltower7503]

The young generation studying in these disciplines should band together and bring attention to what is happening.

[@sirmakonza]

"Human beings are a creative force not capital" "Human beings as a creative force are an outcome of a good agricultural system" Dr. Vandana Shiva

[@DukeGMOLOL]

Yea, and it is a stupid comment.

[@sirmakonza]

@@DukeGMOLOL How so?

[@DukeGMOLOL]

@@sirmakonza Her comment among so many others are stupid and lies. Humans and capital cannot be separated as the creative force requires both. Capital is merely money or any good that can be traded for something else. "A good agricultural system" is the result of capital and humans, she has it backwards. Here is another all time lie from Shiva "GMO's are killing all life on earth". Wow what an idiot. Best regards to you.

[@sirmakonza]

@@DukeGMOLOL I get the impression that she is say that, while labour is capital, it's not to be mistaken for the whole human being. So a full human being as a creative force, is a result of a good systematic employment of material capital plus his/her labour. The problem with viewing human beings as capital is you can easily fall in a the trap of stripping him/her of human rights for profit. That approach of employment of capital, kills humanity amongst other things like the environment for example. Kind regards

[@stiofanmccumascaigh7758]

The corporates need to stand trial for crimes against humanity

[@skimanization]

Dr Shiva, our mother, has spoken words to save the world from climate change and other disasters and calamities that may destroy people and the planet. Thanks.

[@JoseMaria-ce4dh]

OM

[@popeyegordon]

@@JoseMaria-ce4dh OMG are you duped!!

[@l.m.892]

When Joni started speaking, it immediately brought to mind John Chapman (Johnny Appleseed). People who consider themselves entrepreneurs aren't necessarily your friends. They work from a philosophy of profits rather than one of friendship.

[@GNeis7345]

I admire Dr. Shiva !

[@PP-mj2io]

Thank you Dr. Shiva❤️🌱

[@vahanprasan]

I bow down to Dr Shiva for her courage and intelligence. Great job from the publisher for posting this video.

[@juliamarple4554]

If farmers were to transfer to Regenerative Farming it would help hugely with the drought issues & preserving water, and so on. Study it & work it! It is beyond organic & improves yeilds wilst working with nature.

[@DukeGMOLOL]

Yields are low, a waste of land compared to modern agriculture.

[@juliamarple3058]

That can be proven to be false by just thinking of how much the land is eroded & disrobed by conventional farming. The nutritional value decrees, the huge imputes needed, and, look to Gabe Brown at Brown’s Ranch & Regenerating Landscapes, etc. & so on! Open your mind!

[@DukeGMOLOL]

@@juliamarple3058 My mind has always been open, Gabe Brown gets angry when people question him about his claims. youtube won't let me post a link so put this in a search box. "Regenerative Agriculture: Solid Principles, Extraordinary Claims"

[@pepper419]

@@DukeGMOLOL Yields will get lower and lower as the soil gets weaker and weaker and the soil turns to sand under the toxins you're praising.

[@c.Ichthys]

Farmers should fertilize their soil with feathers (aka feather meal). I learned years ago that bird feathers produce high quality nitrogen (which soil needs). I had wondered what happens when birds in nature die and their resting place is the earth (of course) and I researched. How amazing to learn! We as humans need to use organic materials provided by nature. There are good insects that feed upon the destructive pests! Plants that "protect" crops. Human and animal and plant biodegradable refuse, are all great fertilizers for the soil. Also practicing crop rotation every few years and then every 7th year (or such) letting the land "rest" (lie fallow) to restore it. Chemicals and GMO (Frankenstein seeds/product) are deleterious and should never, ever, have been used!!

[@joyabia682]

I am keeping work bins to turn my food scraps. I have one acre of land and must learn to grow food.

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

It's public knowledge that Monsanto wants to trademark seeds for profit. Thanks to this wonderful lady and others like her, hopefully they won't be able to, at least not without a fight.

[@careynazyeustt8760]

Magnificent! dear Goddess Dr. Shiva ☯️😺 Cheers

[@luisrodriguez-pc9ns]

@Siddharth Sriram that's not right you are completely wrong!!! cold war like any other war were manipulated by big corporations and propaganda all the countries that have failed there economy is because they are all in a debt ran economy

[@shaagarey469]

Amazing talk by Dr. Shiva! In my opinion she is a world treasure🙏 Too bad the woman who introduced her couldn’t even bother to pronounce her name properly.

[@jabo5894]

almost 10 years later, where are we now? PLEASE Share Dr. Vandana videos. we are running out of natural food and nutrients and now we have many areas in USA with less water.

[@anbuselvam4885]

Dr.vandana Shiva is a very ,very energetic lady very outspoken very daring

[@popeyegordon]

She's a professional fraud, expert at manipulating people. Nothing more.

[@lindareese4579]

I hope you live forever Dr.shiva..❤❤may god bless you...

[@carolpridgeon8200]

Thank you so much for putting this documentary on you tube. What a great public service. Namaste'

[@bankimchandrachingangbam5869]

Dr. Shiva....a great way of introduction. 😄

[@janiceleatham6795]

She is such a brilliant forceful lady!

[@kot3291]

love love love she's a genius what's more she's brave and grounded so sorry to watch this too late 6 and half yrs after

[@setumomahakoe7791]

I need more info about GMO vs Organic products and the after effect on human condition for sustaining normal life ,here on earth. RSA need Dr. Vandana Shiva , Prof.Lumumba, DR. Arikana, and President Kigame , President Magufuli etc together for Africa to progress in this challenging time...Together we Stand....( Politician need not set up the RULES of the game. They causes conflicts and division ,corruption ).About food they produce ''TOXIC"" nutrition and collect TAXES )

[@devendirandevendiran9193]

Simple speech for rights of poor formers .salute from a farmer of tamilnadu india.

[@popeyegordon]

No. Lies that the vast majority of Indian farmers resent. Do you deny that your fellow farmers were rioting in the streets this year, demanding an end to bans on GMO seed? How can you support a professional fraud like Shiva? purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/

[@uknowmotdy]

@@popeyegordon toss off,we will sort you out for good.

[@popeyegordon]

@@uknowmotdy No you will not. You can not. Science has sorted out Shiva's fraud already. You are one of her ignorant gullible victims.

[@adityapadhy4328]

I have become a fan of Dr Shiva

[@britneytezino3187]

Just submitted my application to ASU Anthropology and the Universe sent me this lecture as a sign 😊 deep gratitude to Dr. Shiva

[@gottfriedsamsburg1285]

She is enlightenment. I am 100% sure about that.

[@GNeis7345]

Wonderfull Speech Dr. Shiva

[@nehamishra8019]

Thank you Vandana shiva for standing for the conman man.

[@peacockLife]

Dr. Shiva your lifelong commitment to the environment is an achievement in itself. Very few people can do what you have done!

[@morganmcguire2500]

58:38 Such powerful words said so simply and honestly

[@bsinam]

A concern everyone should understand.

[@caldogrun]

Thank you Shiva! Your knowledge and compassion immense and hopefully will get many sentient beings thinking more clearly about the noblest path forward, which is care and reverence for all life on the planet, and healthy organic sustainable farming and seeds for all. Down with men like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, who all seem to be suffering from a dark god control complex! Up with humanity at best!

[@georgecalvintharcisius586]

Amazing speech!! Good work . Thank you Ma'am!!🙏

[@dmalyousef95]

Finally someone speaking on the cause of the common man and his/her future

[@DukeGMOLOL]

She would starve billions.

[@andrethethinker3498]

Dr. Shiva!! Please keep up the great work. Don't let Big Agra scare you. 😉😉👍👍

[@tinasharma8567]

Vandana ji you are Devi for me shat shat pranam I pray to god you should live minimum 130years I am also from dehradun

[@morayoung3183]

Amen, the Campesinos, Labradores, farmers are look down and shame cruelty discriminated in Bolivia 🇧🇴and all over the world, they worked so hard for the food to be taken from the sharks that do not let them into the city and buy their products to sale at hired prizes that is all over the world we have to educate in schools to grow their own food and do their own cleaning, so they learn to treat every Human Being with Respect and Dignity.

[@kaypee4704]

Sooooo true♥️♥️🇺🇸

[@mickyhovis]

God gave us the seeds. How dare they claim it's a new invention...

[@DukeGMOLOL]

How dare you not understand the issue.

[@timmanion2197]

Late to the lecture for sure, but thanks for posting, GIS: respect!

[@noellecuisine8912]

Thank you to all ! From the bottom of my heart

[@charliebrandt2263]

Dead soil is a CO2 emitter. Healthy soil is the best absorber of CO2 on the planet today. Even better than forest as it gives food and doesn't give off methane at leaf fall. Regenerative agriculture without chemicals is the way forward and deserts can be reclaimed and the poor have a chance at sustainability and the knowledge of sustainability has to be spread. Thanks Dr. Shiva for spreading the truth.

[@rnunezc.4575]

So many Thanks to Vandana and all at this Institution, One of the best lectures I ve ever listen to. Thansk again...

[@popeyegordon]

geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/

[@tosikforyou]

@@popeyegordon "Jon Entine is the founder and executive director of the Genetic Literacy Project, a key partner in Monsanto’s public relations efforts to protect and defend agrichemical products. Entine portrays himself as an objective authority on science, but the evidence described in this fact sheet indicates that he is a longtime PR operative with deep ties to the chemical industry and undisclosed industry funding." usrtk.org/food-for-thought/jon-entine-the-chemical-industrys-master-messenger/

[@popeyegordon]

@@tosikforyou Antonio is trying to attack the messenger. He failed. He used the extremely criminally dishonest activist group USRTK, big mistake!! The Genetic Literacy project has been rated HIGHLY RELIABLE by Media Bias Fact Check: mediabiasfactcheck.com/genetic-literacy-project/ The USRTK is funded by organic farming activist groups while the GLP has nonprofit status and offers full disclosure of all finances and 501c status in the header of its website.

[@popeyegordon]

@@tosikforyou "The three of us strongly believe that consumers should know who the experts are: people with degrees who spend their careers conducting original research. This is essential because the discussion around crop biotechnology has become a pitched political battle as anti-GMO activists continue to spin conspiracies to undermine the credibility of academically trained scientists. The work of US Right to Know, an organic industry-funded special interest group, illustrates this point. The anti-GMO outfit has filed freedom of information requests on over 50 university faculty that have published peer-reviewed journal articles that quantify the benefits of GM crops. Two of us belong the group of academics that USRTK has targeted. Our private communications were posted online out of context, and this information has been used to accuse us of “shilling” for the biotech industry." geneticliteracyproject.org/2019/12/20/viewpoint-confused-about-gmos-and-pesticides-heres-a-science-based-handbook-for-combating-anti-biotech-fallacies/

[@popeyegordon]

@@tosikforyou *Anti-glyphosate activist Carey Gillam ‘collaborated’ with attorney charged in extortion plot* "In a press release,[hyperlinked] the [Department of Justice] said that one of the lead plaintiffs’ attorneys, Timothy Litzenburg, who helped land a $289-million hit job against Monsanto has been arrested for the attempted extortion of $200 million from another chemical company involved in the production of [the glyphosate-based herbicide] Roundup. If the company (which the Wall Street Journal identified as Nouryon) did not cough up the money, Litzenburg would send in a “parade of horribles” (i.e., cancer patients) like he did to Monsanto, according to an affidavit. He also promised a “40 percent stock loss” and a “public relations nightmare.” But if Nouryon complied with his demand, then he would intentionally lose the case …. And, as it just so happens, Litzenburg has a buddy in Carey Gillam, a former journalist who …. took a job with the anti-GMO activist organization U.S. Right to Know (USRTK). USRTK, a corporate front group that is primarily funded by the organic industry, routinely smears and spreads disinformation about biotech scientists." geneticliteracyproject.org/2019/12/20/anti-glyphosate-activist-carey-gillam-collaborated-with-attorney-charged-in-extortion-plot/

[@poppymoon777]

She’s so right 💖

[@CookFromHell86]

This is absolutely beautiful! I'm currently going to Phoenix college start, but will be transferring in a couple of years. My focus and major is environmental studies with a focus on sustainability and hydrology. I'm watching this now as I'm finishing up a PowerPoint presentation on the Colorado River crisis. Thank you for sharing this.

[@rebecca7462]

My mother is Christian native American. She said decades ago that Creator/God told her to save her seeds. We always grew a home garden. She saved her seeds and used them year after year. Now we know why God spoke at that time to specifically instruct her to save the seeds.

[@mzeesafaritv850]

Very well articulated Dr. Vandana Shiva. You are a gift to this world!

[@bcad9574]

What can be done? Food security starts at home, within your circle of influence. This will soon be critically important. Local permaculture movements are rising. KZbin is a great resource. Your region and other countries with similar climates. Research indigenous foods local to your area. Try them. Incorporate them into your diet. Grow them. If you are blessed with a patch of earth, plant! Collect rain, plant what does well. Indigenous plants, seeds, and methods, caring and tending them. Earth is abundant and leaps at our touch. Caring for her is healing for us. Watching things grow, our rhythms, in the seasons, calibrate our hearts and our minds. We learn, our power is within our circle of influence. Our immediate environment. All of creation eagerly awaits your touch!

[@alanscheidler440]

Steve Vai,. A virtuoso guitar musician went to India toprrfor.Got there dropped the full vanue to write songs pertinent to India. One of those songs was titled The Blood and that Tears, after a Hindu prayer/Poem; sung and spoken in English and Sanskrit. This song, to me is the theme song for today's fight against the 4th Extinction. I've been telling anyone I've known or just met that part o the answer to the world's problems is to bring women into leadership. Black Lives Matter and The Zeitgeist movement have nailed it as systemic . Please try to understand

[@yvettewilliams3055]

she is definatley no conundrum when she speaks ! best wishes to her x

[@josephfigueira813]

Vandana Shiva beautifully said.💪👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👀👀👀👂👂👂👂👂

[@girishm5880]

Very scientific talk. She is a great lady with great Message

[@popeyegordon]

THE EXACT POLAR OPPOSITE OF SCIENTIFIC!!!!!! Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/ Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@godara2op566]

@@popeyegordon hahaha sounds more like alllegations. but nevertheless do disprove the lab happenings

[@popeyegordon]

@@godara2op566 Link the 'lab happenings' that you believe supports Shiva's lies and I will debunk them.

[@GNeis7345]

I would love to be growing my own vegetables and organic way , but my living dwelling is in the city ! My family were farmers !

[@Vipenstrike]

Get out of the city while you still can!

[@kaypee4704]

Use pots for your vegetables, and herbs....⁉️🇺🇸

[@parkbench94]

In the beginning, there was GOD and the Garden, LIFE, and Paradise; in the END, there was LUCIFER and HELL and DEATH...

[@popeyegordon]

Your daddy in the sky is a superstitious fantasy made up by those with minds too weak to face their own mortality head on. Coward.

[@parkbench94]

Eat your spinach, hope you feel better... When you watch MSM your IQ, Reality and Truth, drop to near zero; knowing your own name keeps it above zero... Pandemic = Pandemonic... The moral compass of the uni-multiverse, just like the molecular structure and bonding of planets and atoms, abhors a vacuum and will seek a balance and equilibrium to maintain the natural structure/state. Interferon works the same way biologically against viruses that violate the human organism and it's cells, via the immune system, unless it is interfered with and weakened by those you trust...

[@barbarabrand9752]

I agree. We must remember, God did cast Satan & his Angels out of heaven. So he did establish his kingdom on earth. No way Jesus died for this madness.

[@MinxInSinx]

Sheol

[@kiranmishra2404]

Very good lecture.v.informative,n great knowledge.🙏👍

[@MrJonblundmusic]

This is a Queen Worthy for men.

[@Marxist2]

I learn so much from Dr. Shiva

[@popeyegordon]

You were lied to in the extreme! Many informed people are revolted by the malicious lie being spread by that professional fraud Vandana Shiva. There is no specific connection between GMOs and Indian farmer suicides. Even the Indian press resents the implications. Here are reliable sources dispelling the myth: purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/vandana-shiva-the-pseudoscientific-feminist-fraud/ gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/are-gmos-to-blame-for-the-mass-suicides-of-indian-farmers/ Myles Power video about Shiva fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5i5Y3ecfa6Uqtk news.nationalpost.com/news/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/ Detailed statistics on the actual causes of Indian farmer suicides - GMO seed is not even on the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India

[@53nat0r]

WR Grace and USA FDA both tried to get patent for neem tree. How absurd and outrageous.

[@popeyegordon]

That is an outrageous lie you tried to post but you were caught. The patents are ONLY about the extraction process for the neem oil. The trees can not be patented unless they are sufficiently altered by advanced breeding to make a better tree with a greater value than the original version. Nobody would ever try to patent the basic popular tree grown widely.

[@arijitpalit2756]

@@popeyegordon neem oil extraction is also a process that had been known in India for generations. I don’t fully oppose IP and think in a product that you have put time and money in 'for inventing' should be rewarded. How a public knowledge can be considered an IP?

[@popeyegordon]

@@arijitpalit2756 I repeat - The patents are ONLY about the specific improved extraction process for the neem oil. The trees can not be patented unless they are sufficiently altered by advanced breeding to make a better tree with a greater value than the original version. Public knowledge does not include a new better process. If India comes up with an even better new extraction process it can be patented as well.