Magnus & Hikaru on Losing and The Queens Gambit

Hikaru, Magnus and Beth have somewhat of a discussion regarding winning and losing in chess while looking at scenes in The Queens Gambit
Source video: Magnus Carlsen Discusses The Queen's Gambit Scene By Scene • Magnus Carlsen Discuss...
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[@ashwinsanthosh9154]

Waiting for the day Magnus actually comes on Hikaru's channel.

[@ZeCroiSSanT950]

Magnus+ Hikaru vs new stockfish engine when?

[@sumting_wong_witya1029]

it's like a dream

[@ayonmaity6150]

@@ZeCroiSSanT950 This is gonna be awesome 🔥🔥🔥

[@randomcast9368]

Prob won't happen. Magnus is a different animal.

[@em3711]

That would be decent, actually

[@detectivemarkseven]

Grischuk: "Dont blunder." Magnus: "Losing is not normal." Hikaru: "Just win." Thanks for the advice guys...

[@adudeontheinterweb6571]

that`s really great and all, but how?

[@lochinwolf]

@@adudeontheinterweb6571 you must have missed the point, let me explain; don’t blunder-> don’t blunder, losing is not normal-> don’t lose, just win-> win. Hope this helps, if you need more advice hmu :)

[@adudeontheinterweb6571]

@@lochinwolf woah. it worked. thank's bro, i'm literally rank 1 rn. geez this is sooo easy, why don't people do this?

[@lochinwolf]

@@adudeontheinterweb6571 LUL, I’m glad it helped! I put hundreds of thousands of hours training with Hikaru and Magnus to learn these methods and all I’ve learned is winning wins. Sadly I can’t seem to figure out how to win. Maybe I need to learn from you, who learned from me, who learned from Hikaru, who learned from himself that winning is the only way to win

[@nyan349]

@@lochinwolf omg thanks I followed this advice and I am now 5000 elo

[@alostkid3879]

The only thing everyone wants in life is for a Magnus and Hikaru collab.

[@jenahfrias9803]

magnus is avarage attitude

[@aunimjoarder]

@@jenahfrias9803 Also one of the if not the greatest player of all time

[@briamgunaita9845]

@@aunimjoarder Yeah we get it bruh it's been said a million times

[@aunimjoarder]

@@briamgunaita9845 Ofc it will it's a fact😂

[@vipchesschannel3164]

I want magnus Anish

[@mrevilducky]

"Gotham, Magnus, Beth, and Hikaru discuss chess. Soon on my channel" - Levy Rosman, probably

[@AUG_Glow]

Who is Levy Rosman? The only person i could think of is Levy Rozman

[@joshualogan6655]

@@AUG_Glow Isn't it Rezy Lozman?

[@analuizafelixdesouza6336]

@@joshualogan6655 No, it's Yvel Namzor

[@ejlofficial]

Levy is a poor imintation of gothamchess

[@atrollman7415]

Why would you need a chess board when you have one up on the ceiling lol

[@lettuce1626]

Or the floor

[@peacockmusicpage]

Lmfao

[@williamkatsiii7936]

He has Magnus and Beth in the title, that's an easy milli views

[@eldawii]

does he have beth in the title tho?

[@williamkatsiii7936]

@@eldawii When I wrote the comment, yes

[@gordonramsdale]

21k

[@williamkatsiii7936]

@@gordonramsdale 161k, rip

[@nitinchauhan3870]

The amount of respect he has for Anand is so heartwarming.

[@wizsauce6798]

easier to respect someone competitvely when youve beaten them many times.

[@masterofsorrow2699]

@@wizsauce6798 actually way harder. If you constantly beat someone it's hard to not feel superior, such love and respect is harder to achieve this way.

[@elicooper5428]

@@masterofsorrow2699no, its harder to love someone who beats you a lot

[@masterofsorrow2699]

@@elicooper5428 if you've got serious ego problems, pal.

[@khrish4749]

Stream Chat: “Good Stream” Hikaru: “What? Did I do something wrong?” Lmao 😂😂😂

[@theawesomeone6572]

"...Reindeer man, riendeer man? Reindeer man, riendeer ma- whatever" "Ok so reindeer man went an..."

[@chrisoez]

The GM is Dmitri Reinderman (pronounced Rhine-dur-man) so hikaru is not far off haha

[@theawesomeone6572]

@@chrisoez That's awesome lol

[@rahulshanbhag08]

@@chrisoez Sorry I'll choose to go with reindeer man

[@theawesomeone6572]

@@rahulshanbhag08 Exactly my guy 😂

[@cwazyazn]

I think that classical chess would be far more interesting if draws were worth a third, or even a quarter of a point. It would definitely incentivize aggressive chess, which would incite a bigger rollercoaster of emotions within the viewer. Which is what all sports need to build a large loyal fan base.

[@brucemcfarling7810]

That's what they did in football (soccer) when they went from 2pts win, 1pt draw to 3pts win, 1pt draw.

[@bg6429]

This just reminded me the game between Hikaru and Magnus at the 2018 squinfield. Hikaru was tearing up and was letting the clock tick down as he was in a bad position. You can see the passion he has for the game and it screams the phrase “losing is not normal”. In this case losing is also a great teacher and you can’t feel it completely unless you experience it.

[@hafizdwp]

I looked up to it and i wasn't ready

[@jakey5694]

Link?

[@Daniele.Rossini]

hat case was a bit different doe... that game was a dead draw... but magnus kept pushing and hikaru didn't even considered that he could loose that, he was like "easy draw" but then when he realized he was gonna lose everything crubled for him... To summarize it was a very big blunder by him, and that's why he was so angr at himself!

[@giovannifalso6342]

21:21 Guy: "I'm deaf" Hikaru: "It's really really nice to hear"

[@zoommier8220]

I click every now and then when I see Hikaru and Magnus together

[@The_dude_channel]

Has anyone else just recently got into chess? I feel like it’s having this great resurgence in our culture and I couldn’t be more excited! I don’t know what I’m doing but it’s fun and I love these videos!

[@andresv.8880]

The resurgence been happening lol, your a months late to the news haha

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

Yes. And I am bad at chess, really. But I still love these videos.

[@gilamesh3417]

Thank you for putting in the closed captions. Makes a world of difference. Love all your videos as a whole.

[@dialgarocksful]

That outro message is truly heartwarming. Keep up the good work Hikaru and team!

[@pedrorengel9603]

This thumbnail is far too much. My man, you have outdone yourself.

[@emenelowpea]

Losing is not normal. -Magnus and Hikaru

[@TheTimo]

im definitely not normal then

[@emenelowpea]

@@TheTimo Uhm, Same?

[@rahfuhj3430]

I agree

[@emenelowpea]

But they're just simply saying that, we should not accept losing just like that, use the negative feeling that you to be better than you are and win.

[@2tfl236]

Wow I had no idea Vishy was such a legend. I remember how huge his rivalry with Magnus was around when I started gaining interest in chess but top 5 of all time? Amazing

[@luishenriquesilva1034]

Thanks for the CC Hikaru! I am a brazilian and yours videos it's been a very nice way to me improve my english and my Chess. Huge thanks for this, dude.

[@just10kills92]

Plot twist: Magnus's girlfriend is Anish Giri

[@v1d300]

No wonder anytime someone plays a bad move Anish is super surprised, he only practices against the best moves.

[@olavpettersen9465]

That would be truly progressive, and completely alter the statistics of top female chess players.

[@lucasdominic7336]

😂😂

[@LL-tr5et]

the best plot twist of the century

[@necaton]

*anish girl

[@YoungPutter]

“His father got clapped” I guarantee I’ll never hear that said again

[@shamikakelkar9833]

That thumbnail is quite literally a piece of art

[@jiaaggarwal5873]

Hikaru: “Losing is not normal. Just win.” Me: Jee thanks, wish I thought of that.

[@skipugh]

Loved this video. Thanks

[@yangwenli668]

Man I really want magnus and hikaru to Collab and play some games and talk . It would be amazing to watch.

[@unknown23hornet22]

The way to help fix the fact that draws are so common in chess is to make it more rewarding to win than it already is. A different scoring for a tournament would be interesting to try. For example 3 points for a win 1 for a draw and zero for a loss would make going for a win more rewarding and encourage people to take risks.

[@flytoheights1]

What about Vladimir Kramnik? He said that he didn’t care much about winning or losing, rather he only wanted to play good games. Is it possible to be a winner without being emotional and being objective?

[@Mumr4real]

Magnus gives me serious vibes, like an anime villain.

[@sammythemc]

He's not the villain, he's the rival who takes 4 seasons to finally team up with the hero

[@kailo67]

@@sammythemc ya itachi uchiha

[@cahles6679]

You will hear him shout someday in the world chess championship finals, *ZA WALDO!!!*

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

Every time I hear his name I am like "He would be a great Sherlock Holmes villain." I am not trying to be disrespectful, his name just sounds so intimidating and ominous.

[@TheAlienGangster]

With the name and intimidating pedigree, he may sound like a classical rival or villain at first, but he really isn’t. He’s just very competitive and talented.

[@brandony8691]

1:00 Hikaru begins naming off some cool positions that Kasparov put together

[@OliverSandys]

Lol love these Magnus/hikaru videos

[@Ttran28]

imagine sleeping: couldnt be me

[@ignaciotorocoronado985]

Not funny man. Ive been awake all night (not with my phone, just couldnt sleep) and now its 7am and Im feeling so angry

[@ignaciotorocoronado985]

@@leal1251 so much anger ill break the board 😂

[@kartike6704]

Hikaru: Just don’t accept it just don’t 1 second later Magnus: Accept it and move on Lol

[@jonathandittmer9496]

these videos are basically Hikaru confirming how spot on Magnus always is

[@dalesevdini4432]

I grew up with cheap club sets and a vinyl board. I also had/have still, a solid wood board, although the squares are under 2inch. So a lack of chess sets was never a problem for me. Even to this day, I always keep a few physical sets. I love over the board.

[@swordsman1137]

The idea of accepting loses is to acknowledge the lose, become better, and winning it in the next time, and more importantly to not too obsessed with the loses that person that loses ruin his/her life in certain way, like become abuser or psychopath. When Magnus said that he channeled his anger on the next match in some ways is align what people mean with accepting lose

[@goldenhawx8652]

Both Magnus and Hikaru have a lot of respect for each other. That’s so wonderful!

[@raservesthedinner7620]

No, quite the opposite

[@analuizafelixdesouza6336]

@@raservesthedinner7620 wdym?

[@raservesthedinner7620]

@@analuizafelixdesouza6336 every time they play against each other to win a tournament, Carlsen gets cocky and Nakamura calls his bs explicitly.

[@AManOf_Culture]

We want a Magnus & Hikaru collab.

[@kevinjonathan6828]

In the thumbnail he looking like eren biting his hand

[@Kneem]

That’s when he promotes to a queen.

[@cidie1]

The chat is hilarious sometimes and I like that Hikaru doesn't let them upset him sometimes. 😂

[@ciaheadoffice5506]

"It's a Nice Gun, I'll Give You That. But the Engraving Gives You No Tactical Advantage Whatsoever" 4:26

[@ShanghaiBJJ]

Regarding Hikaru's comment on taking the piece incorrectly at the beginning, they actually hired a hand model (German chess player) to move the pieces. Obviously not in this shot, where we can see the actress. This was done, so it would look more realistic, especially for the bullet games.

[@mbalasubramanian9658]

This is literally a class on the psychology of winners

[@deveshparashar4265]

"Vishy is a legend!!" True❤️❤️🔥🔥

[@jirivajnar3538]

Hi Hikaru I would like to see your top ten players of all time because I think I heard a lot players you said they should be in top ten.

[@MrCanadianAviator]

"Just be the best and win." - Hikaru 2021

[@scotchtape4885]

Im waiting for Hikaru & Magnus & Anish on losing and The Queens Gambit

[@johnster02]

10:23 does he have a pewdiepie cup??

[@canofpaint2336]

It's awesome to me that Magnus literally didn't have a personal chess set until recently lmao

[@PHeMoX]

Those tiny magnetic chess boards _still_ exist. And I got one that's a medium size, all wooden and with the classical style wooden pieces. Definitely my favourite board to study moves on, versus on the computer.

[@GlorfindelSnipes]

Here before 5k views. Let’s see how far Magnus and Beth can pull this video upwards

[@Akash-ds1xi]

Just pulling a cheap Anish Giri

[@alexhooper6625]

Magnus's story about buying a board is kinda funny, but most professionals don't spend money on the thing they're doing. It's the same in Magic: The Gathering. All the professional players borrow from friends or dealers or something. It's the same for a lot of other games. That said, if Magnus walked into my store and said he needed a board, I'd probably tell him he could have it if I could play him in a game. It'd be cool to tell my friends I played the world champion on a board that I sold / gave him.

[@milannesic5718]

Not true, There was a big topic on Reddit about what presents to buy. And it was advised from the "professionals" on every field: "Do not buy me presents related to my profession! I have tons of those, and of highest possible quality. I don't need your cheap toy"

[@jenahfrias9803]

isnt cool, our hikaru dont even look in the ceiling for 20secs?

[@wiselettuce8715]

Twitch can be an absolute cancer when it comes to female in chess topic. Mods made a great call making it sub mode, hikaru doesn't deserve to read garbage

[@shmendusel]

When did the chat say cancerous things? I wasn't really looking at the chat, did I miss something really bad?

[@Connaruto]

Not just Twitch everywhere

[@wiselettuce8715]

@@shmendusel It happens earlier when Hikaru talked about female in chess topic. So you can see the chat almost turned cancer before Mod realized what could happen, so they instantly switch to sub mode.

[@johndotcue]

The internet in general gets really hot and bothered whenever there's a female-related issue being addressed. Just the fact of life I guess.

[@joha4574]

@@johndotcue It's so sad though. One could hope, that this would not be the case with modern internet cultures such as twitch. That's not the case though :(

[@lucashall7199]

What if we got one (or more) of the actresses/actors to play in Pogchamps, cuz they do now know how to play

[@akashjain240]

Anand mentioned in one of its interview that he has a pretty bad record against Hikaru.

[@veezi_]

I wanna see Hikaru cameo in future chess movies/series

[@taco6649]

Love you Hirakuwu! ❤️

[@KartikeyaDutta]

Where does that name came from

[@taco6649]

Don't know, but is funny, and well hid name is hikaru

[@taco6649]

@Mystic Clover Maybe.... Yes YES YES

[@ekankojic2411]

One Hikaru laugh a day, a depression away 😎

[@LFSPharaoh]

16:08 god I felt that in my soul. I've only been playing casually on and off for a year or so, and I do this when I lose to a 300... but then I'll turn around and beat many (low) 4 digits the next day. So odd.

[@TheJoelschannel]

Are those frames of tyler durden flashing across the screen?

[@monikaparmar2061]

Thumbnail is superb.

[@imnotftw]

My dad had a nice chess set which he taught me and my brothers to play on when I was 7 or 8. We still have the set. It’s become somewhat sentimental especially after dad passed in 2014. I take chess a bit more seriously than my brothers so I win easily when we play so we don’t play much anymore. Still we keep the set wherever we go and likely always will.

[@jjc5556]

catching up to hikaru pog

[@ReinaldosChessLessons]

I agree you should improve and seek victory. However, losing comes with the territory. Part of the game. Of course one should study and improve to minimize losses.

[@metroboomin8895]

When you've never actually played non-online chess so you're struggling even recognizing which figure is which in these scenes oop

[@stanleylim4458]

True. Two different things

[@Gymnopediea]

Wow, this was fantastic! Can we get some Lev Aronian on here too? He's my favorite!

[@ojasdamankar9851]

Thumbnails on this channel are my fav

[@DeathGeco1000]

16:23 You can see the inner sith lord in Magnus' eyes as he tries to keep his cool

[@arcg2146]

Magnus watching this and smiling

[@jibiteshsaha4392]

Hikaru please bring Magnus on your stream

[@pj4999]

Magnus will be to busy drinking

[@LeoStaley]

Magnus hates hikaru

[@pj4999]

@@LeoStaley he does?

[@jenahfrias9803]

@@LeoStaley why?

[@photon3566]

@@LeoStaley What? No???

[@rickharold7884]

Interesting. Thx

[@vishnu2183]

When i see hikaru and magnus on the thumbnail, i automatically click. It is involuntary

[@determinationterminal5692]

kind of inspirational

[@diagorasofmelos4345]

"Raindeerman".

[@ImaClownman]

@11:24 start a Tournament league. Like the WSOP.

[@TheRealCamelT]

You can tell Hikaru has a lot of respect for magnus here

[@sahil_tayade]

I feel like everyone who is a Hikaru fan is also a Magnus fan. And we keep getting clickbaited over it.

[@kieranczyzniejewski2178]

Why do I get the feeling Wesley So has a really nice chess board?

[@reniselim8630]

He really does lol

[@chillax9184]

Go watch it at chess24 where he filmed a house tour

[@barselino9877]

he does

[@shakeyfly]

Hikaru needs the Saddelback Leather company Chess Set.

[@yxgv]

the problem is, when i play with my firends, if i always wins they always refuses to play again

[@arnoldo8642]

if youre clearly the better player try playing them with odds. for example they start with all their pieces like normal but you start with one less pawn or one less knight. plenty of ways to mix it up and its fun for both sides and you still learn. if youre playing online and cant start with a custom board then you can just move your knight for the first few moves and let them take it for free on purpose or you can sacrifice it for a pawn on purpose. you dont even have to tell them that youre doing it because theyre not good because youre trying to help them, you can just say youre making it a challenge for yourself if they ask.

[@darkgrundi9543]

@@arnoldo8642 never understood this tbh. I am quite litterally terrible at chess while one of my friends plays in a club for years. The first time i played against him, he was like "i will not move my queen to make it fair", i was so furious i played probably the best chess i have ever done and made him use his queen. I felt insulted by him making it easier for me. It is like saying: you are so bad you will blunder your queen anyway so i won`t need mine.

[@yxgv]

@@arnoldo8642 they think i was like cocky for doing that, and yea so i started playing online chess,

[@arnoldo8642]

@@darkgrundi9543 he could have thought you were that bad or maybe he thought he was much better at the game than he actually was. either way he clearly misread the situation. a queen makes a pretty big difference so especially if he never played you he shouldnt have gone that far or started out like that. thats why i said in my original comment that it should be clear that youre the better player if youre going to going to give someone piece odds. but of course you should both agree on it first. unless you both dont care and youre just having fun. but to touch on what you said about feeling angry and insulted, trust me if someone is actually better than you (especially if theyre MUCH better) you might have fun the first couple games or even longer than that but at some point you will get tired of getting destroyed and not have fun playing anymore. the person youre playing with will also likely get tired of having no challenge. at which point you might prefer to play with odds and you might not take offense to it because that might end up being the only enjoyable way left to play each other for both sides and the only way where you realistically have a chance of winning.

[@arnoldo8642]

@@yxgv well theyre just not that smart then lol because if you repeatedly beat them with ease they should know its not cockyness, its just clear youre the better player

[@boyfromthemountains]

I'm not leaving until I get a heart, grand master! Nevermind I won't leave even after getting that heart!

[@danumba1drumma]

I want Hikaru to review different chess boards

[@randybailin4902]

The elephant in the room about Mr. Schaibel was that he was playing chess in the basement when he should've been working. Beth never would've discovered the game if he was more diligent about his job.

[@Vilerious]

Chat: Good Stream Hikaru: Did I do something wrong?

[@lightsab4675]

"Do you suck at chess? Well just win"

[@prof_jelly]

Big shout out to the homie at the end of the video, didnt want to butcher your name!

[@omeadpooladzandi9786]

the magnetic pocket chess boards were op

[@bbrodriguez420]

Losing sucks, anyone who says otherwise is a straight up liar. It shouldn't ever feel good to lose, if it does then you wont ever make it to the highest level. Lost count how many times I cried after feeling like I failed playing cricket. As a bowler if someone got the best of me I'd learn from it and make sure the next time I played them it wouldn't happen again. No batsman ever got the best of my twice. I feel like that mentality is why I was able to play the highest level without making a State squad. Even playing backyard cricket I'd get a bit salty sometimes lol

[@LL-tr5et]

sounds like you're a bad loser. i play for fun, not to boost my ego by winning. just because winning is not my top priority doesnt mean i cant kick ass. :)

[@grassy556]

@@LL-tr5et i dont see his fault here, he just doesnt want to keep losing so he tries to learn from his losses as a say to improve and win.

[@Dayanto]

11:38 This is one of the things that is nice about Go. There are no draws.

[@GaleonGuitar]

16:45 - JUST WIN BRO 😎

[@ashwinsanthosh9154]

Three 5heads

[@hammy7528]

Hikaru having pleasure watching magnus suffering

[@AbhishekKumar-uu4uj]

Vishy indeed is a legend

[@David_7171]

Good video

[@atti_odyssey]

NICE!

[@lidelgado5377]

Why play rock,paper, scissors when you can play Magnus,Vishy,Hikaru?

[@stuartfindley9127]

Sweet

[@user-zs4ug3bw2z]

15:40 He forgot about ding:)