Go Around! Lufty 747 Aborted Landing Boston Logan

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jenf777

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@gebe5959
@gebe5959 10 жыл бұрын
Really a great video and you caught the details very well. So as i was the Pilot Flying on this go around I can just explain what happened. We knew upon starting the approach that the tail wind was close to our maximum acceptable of 10Kts. So we closely watched the wind speed and direction. We expected the usual reduction of the wind speed getting closer to the ground. So we accepted the approach because of this and the preceeding landing Aircraft. As you noticed we asked for a wind-check shortly before landing to confirm our decision. So we decided to fly down to an altitude of 100ft , check the tail wind and at that point our indication was 18Kts. So the go around was neccessary. Tower was aware of the reason without notice and offered us landing on the opposite approach without delay. There was no windshear , just a steady wind that didn't smooth down close to the ground. One of my crew members saw this video and sent me the link. So thank you for putting this video on You Tube. After more than 30 years of flying for LH and performing a considerable number of go arounds, it is the first time that i got the chance to see this procedure from this point of view.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Gebe 59 - I can't thank you enough for watching and responding, I am so honored, especially for providing all the details regarding the approach and decision to go around. I greatly appreciate it - as I am sure do the other people who have watched and commented. Great information. Huge thank you!!! If you regularly fly this route, you know I frequently have my camera trained your way, I love Lufty - and the beautiful 747. A million thanks! :) Jen
@elij.s.7580
@elij.s.7580 5 жыл бұрын
That must be crazy to see a video of such a huge aircraft zooming through the air and hear it's CF6's unleashing their maximum thrust and know that you were the one in control. I would be so proud of myself. Good job!
@MattsAviationChannel
@MattsAviationChannel 10 жыл бұрын
WOW stunning vid Jen! Awesome engine sounds gave me goose bumps! Thanks so much for sharing! Cheers, Matthias
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Matthias - thank you so much! Hope you are doing great - I always say this , but time for you and your wife to plan a trip to Boston!!! :)
@AlexPraglowskiAviation
@AlexPraglowskiAviation 10 жыл бұрын
WOW! That was absolutely stunning, Jen! Love the sound of those CF-6s, and brilliant filming! Very well done :D
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I can't believe I caught it - just random luck!!! :)
@linjeflyg
@linjeflyg 10 жыл бұрын
As a spotter , a go around is ultimate thrill to capture. With a excellent location (for a go around), a 74 and your steady hand, congratulation!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much linjeflyg!!! You are right, I was psyched to catch this - while keeping my hands somewhat steady!!! :)
@seanbriankirby7646
@seanbriankirby7646 Жыл бұрын
I witnessed a go-around of a Southwest 737 at BWI from their observation deck last year. It is a really surprising thing to see, and leave one wondering the reason. It’s beyond cool this clip received a comment from the pilot involved.
@seanbriankirby7646
@seanbriankirby7646 Жыл бұрын
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@miketheavgeek
@miketheavgeek 10 жыл бұрын
WOW! Insane sound!! Amazing capture Jen! Beautiful shot!!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you - superstar!!! :)
@RossAviationWorld
@RossAviationWorld 10 жыл бұрын
Now this was absolutely stunning! Those screaming engines sounded incredible! Thanks for sharing! Huge like Jen! :)
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much -I know those engines were amazing!!!
@jackhiscock1444
@jackhiscock1444 10 жыл бұрын
Aviation videos sure get me feeling funny in the pants! Thanks for posting!
@OHAREAVIATION
@OHAREAVIATION 10 жыл бұрын
Very likely a winds issue, Jen! Thanks so much for the upload! Always a great day when you do put out a new video..... felt like it had been too long almost :D
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Jay!!! I am so sorry I have not had a chance to catch up on your amazing videos, I have been crazy busy. I know you have posted some spectacular new work - this weekend I am making Jay time!!!!
@SKBenergy
@SKBenergy 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 such a awesome catch :) how often is a go around there?
@OHAREAVIATION
@OHAREAVIATION 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 thanks, Jen!
@markgo1980
@markgo1980 10 жыл бұрын
You can see the wind sock when he's landing, Tailwind or tail gust.
@hicham6490
@hicham6490 9 жыл бұрын
نههقمن
@JakesAviation
@JakesAviation 10 жыл бұрын
Incredible catch Jen!! That engine sound is absolutely amazing!!!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and I agree! Those engines were screaming!!! :)
@SKBenergy
@SKBenergy 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 this video has a ton of views wow since i first saw it :) awesomeness !!!!!
@RVNspotting
@RVNspotting 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing capture!! Nice work, Jen!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! :)
@atillakececi7977
@atillakececi7977 10 жыл бұрын
As you can see at 00:30, it is because of a sudden wind direction change. So the landing took place in the other way around.
@JohnSkogstoe
@JohnSkogstoe 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm glad you had your camera rolling this time!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much John - and thank you for watching and commenting! :)
@MostafaMansoori
@MostafaMansoori 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for posting. Always loved the 747, my favorite queen of the skies. Lufthansa is my favorite airline since I was born in Germany. You should check out there new 747-8i, they are the largest customer of the 747-8i with 20 ordered and many delivered, long live the legacy of the 747. Amen!
@Sim19yul
@Sim19yul 10 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! That was absolutely stunning, my friend! Love the sound of those engines, brilliant filming! Very well done! :D
@TravelWithJose
@TravelWithJose 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome capture, and great video work! Thanks for sharing!!!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much planes123!!! :)
@giddi2000
@giddi2000 10 жыл бұрын
an excellent catch jenf,keep up the good work,man
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much Giddi2000!!! :)
@RomeoDeltaAviation
@RomeoDeltaAviation 10 жыл бұрын
Great capture Jen!! Amazing to hear the power from those GE engines as the crew makes the wise choice TOGA due to wind conditions!
@aircontrol6719
@aircontrol6719 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video, superb Quality as usual. BIG LIKE!! :-) Love to see my hometown Airline:-)
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Air Control 67!!! :)
@mabelyourmama9029
@mabelyourmama9029 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool, I loved the sound too!
@jenf777
@jenf777 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! :)
@coolrich59
@coolrich59 3 жыл бұрын
I had a similar experience at ORD many years ago. I was in the car rental lot (when those lots were right under the approach) when a 747 aborted its landing. The sound from those engines was like nothing I have ever heard before or since!
@Flyspotter19
@Flyspotter19 10 жыл бұрын
What an amazing catch! Well done Jen! :D
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@2doggies2
@2doggies2 10 жыл бұрын
I was just on a aborted flight today landing in Boston, this was my second one. It's amazing on how quick they get up. My wife had a few nerves rattled and I told the guy next to me what was going on. Once we were up the pilot gave us the report on what was going on. I was right on when I said there was a plane still on the runway.
@TheBeagle58
@TheBeagle58 10 жыл бұрын
Priceless, Great catch, excellent video!!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much James!!!
@navy57
@navy57 10 жыл бұрын
Not all go arounds are this much "fun". Back in the mid-1970s I was stationed in Hawaii. My assignment as Staff Liaison Officer to DARPA necessitated numerous trips the the mainland and beyond. In the pre-deregulation days, the air;lies didn't compete over price -- the couldn't -- so they did it with service. I preferred United, so I got quite familiar with their onboard audio programs. There was one channel that carried the radio traffic between the ground and the plane. It was a lot more interesting than the Don Ho channel so I liked to listen as we approached SFO. I'd experienced one previous go around there and quickly understood why the airlines, pilots, crew and PAX disliked them, especially at SFO. Coming in from the Pacific, everybody makes a left turn near the southern end of San Francisco and joins a long queue as they approach SFO. The normal approach is to one of the pair of runways where the Asiana Flight didn't make it last year. If you have a missed approach you have to climb out over the bay, head out west over the Pacific, turn left and head south to re-join the queue. It's both time and fuel consuming. On one particular flight we were on final for the left of the two runways -- I can't remember what the number is so I'll call it 24 Left -- one mile out. Here's the dialogue: Tower: "TWA 330, you're cleared to cross 24 Left ... Proceed to 24 Right and take off …" TWA 330 (angrily): "I'll be damned if I'll cross … United 189 Heavy's on final on 24 left!!" Tower (excitedly): "United 189 Heavy, can you make 24 Right?" United 189 Heavy:" I'll try ..." With that the Captain did something with the 747 that I couldn't believe. He made snap turn to right and a snap turn back to the left and we touched down on 24 Right. We rolled out and then the Captain came on again (furiously): "Tower, you stay right where you are, mister. I'm comin' to see you right after I get this thing parked!!" I suspect that I was one of very few people who'd listened to this exchange. Priceless…
@johnharris3881
@johnharris3881 7 жыл бұрын
I did that one day, as requested, ... but in a realative teeny-weeny Beech Baron!
@Valkenier11
@Valkenier11 10 жыл бұрын
Great capture,Jen. Wowww. It amazed me that the Lufthansa turned and did land in the opposite direction.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ralph! Always a surprise to see one of these amazing planes pull up at the last moment! Hope you are doing great!!! :)
@Valkenier11
@Valkenier11 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 You're right about that when the heavies pull up at once. I do have a lot going around. Next monday,my birthday, the training at KLM will start. Searching for an apartment etc etc , studying Dangerous Goods Regulations, etc etc etc
@MarkBNL
@MarkBNL 10 жыл бұрын
En toch nog een mooie super soft landing :-)
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Valkenier11_Valk Aviation Happy Belated Birthday!!! :)
@NtheKidd
@NtheKidd 10 жыл бұрын
See the thrust and power. Amazing to watch!
@AusAviation149
@AusAviation149 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic catch! Its amazing how you just watch over 250 tons of metal suddenly just stop descending, float along for abit then go roaring back into the sky. Haven't experienced one yet, but i secretly always have a little hope for a go-around when I'm flying!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You are a much braver flyer than me - I hope to never be in a go around!!! :)
@tspcrowther
@tspcrowther 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 I`ve been on a flight in to Atlanta on a Delta MD11 that went around moments from touching down. It was fun! Reason given was that another aircraft being towed across the runway was still on it.
@EuroAviationTV
@EuroAviationTV 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video jenf! good job liked it much:)
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! :)
@DeltaAirtran
@DeltaAirtran 10 жыл бұрын
Very smooth landing! Nice panning as well!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you DeltaAirTran!! :)
@Jetman737BBJ
@Jetman737BBJ 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Jen! Amazing airmanship to make that call. Clearly visible windsock shows way too much tailwind for the 'big lady''.
@PVDPlaneSpotting
@PVDPlaneSpotting 10 жыл бұрын
Now that is an awesome catch! Gotta love that moderate tailwind in that situation.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yup - we sure do get the big winds here!!! :)
@shamrock767
@shamrock767 10 жыл бұрын
Great catch, many thanks for sharing! What an amazing aircraft and sound!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much fro your great comments!!!
@seinfeld11123
@seinfeld11123 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 great comments? he said "great catch, many thanks for sharing" lol I'm not a pilot or anything. but are you a BOT or something? wasnt a "great" comment
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
jack black I am not a BOT, I am not a BOT...I am not a BOT... oops sorry 'bout that, my switch was stuck. :) Shamrock767 had made comments on a few of my videos and on my channel, so my comment was to say how much I appreciated that!
@shamrock767
@shamrock767 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 thanks a million!
@PilotSpOB
@PilotSpOB 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! I gotta get out spotting again, used to be a time when I'd be in Eastie or Winthrop weekly!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you and absolutely!!! Well, heck yeah! Message me anytime you want to come out spotting!!!
@PaulStewartAviation
@PaulStewartAviation 9 жыл бұрын
Great capture!
@ymmlspottingteam
@ymmlspottingteam 10 жыл бұрын
WOW!!:D Amazing catch mate.. And those engines were screaming.. Absolutely incredible sound to hear!!:D Huge like from us:D
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you so much! I know, those engines were screaming - wild stuff!!!
@rocketmanpm
@rocketmanpm 10 жыл бұрын
Wow! You could really see the tailwind component in the tree leaves as they initiated the go-around. Smart and safe crew.
@SebAlvarado
@SebAlvarado 10 жыл бұрын
Exceding the maximum tailwind component, great call to go around.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed Sebastian! :)
@NativelyBornAmerican
@NativelyBornAmerican 10 жыл бұрын
A pilot can "feel" just the driver of a land vehicle. If something feels a little off or just "not right" a decision to abort can avoid a serious accident. Hats off to the pilot.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed, kudos to the pilot - great job!!!
@buybygb
@buybygb 10 жыл бұрын
Great Catch!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Big hi from Boston!!! :)
@flymen918
@flymen918 10 жыл бұрын
Great catch! Sometimes more interesting to see this than a regular landing:)
@erauprcwa
@erauprcwa 10 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video. Great capture. Sad that the 747 is being phased out of many airlines.
@rkmacdonald
@rkmacdonald 10 жыл бұрын
The go-around was most certainly caused by the 210/11G14 tailwind. What I wonder about is why he lined up on that runway in the first place. Maybe the wind changed direction during the approach.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell and good question. Maybe the wind did change. This was the last to "attempt" to land before they changed they runway.
@rkmacdonald
@rkmacdonald 10 жыл бұрын
I am a CFII and have been flying for 40 years. I have seen and executed untold numbers of go-arounds. They are not dangerous and should be used anytime you don't feel comfortable with the approach. You should always keep a go-around in mind as you land, just in case things don't go right. When I fly with a crew, I always brief the go-around or missed approach procedure at the beginning of the approach.
@ZOMb2010
@ZOMb2010 10 жыл бұрын
GOTTA like the JUMBO 's power...she is a beauty...THANK YOU for the GREAT video...link'd the video through FLIGHT AWARE...very CoOL!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed, agreed and thank you so much for your great comments and the link!! :)
@tFlax
@tFlax 10 жыл бұрын
Nice Spot! Also I live in the Boston area and Unfortunately I can't seem to upload any vids but I am working on it : )
@tFlax
@tFlax 10 жыл бұрын
Also liked and subbed!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
For some reason I could not respond to Iflytoo, but thank you, great info and I have a question to my aviation friends and experts. Is it always at the pilots discretion to land (or not) once cleared by ATC no matter what the conditions - even if the wind or other conditions may be outside the normal safety recommendation for that aircraft?
@JaxAviator
@JaxAviator 10 жыл бұрын
It is always the pilots discretion. My ATC professor was telling us a story in class about how he told a pilot to go around at Pax River, MD. The pilot respond that he was committed to landing and there was nothing my professor could do.
@tomdick693
@tomdick693 10 жыл бұрын
yeah his data is inaccurate.
@Avilator189
@Avilator189 10 жыл бұрын
Think about it this way: It's a landing clearance, not a landing instruction.
@zeedoogyboy
@zeedoogyboy 10 жыл бұрын
The Captain is in command of the ship. His descretion as to the safety of passengers and crew is the prime mover in any decisions he makes. My opinion!
@SkyhawkFlyer
@SkyhawkFlyer 10 жыл бұрын
Safety of flight comes first, every time: § 91.3 Responsibility and authority of the pilot in command. (a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft. (b) In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule of this part to the extent required to meet that emergency. (c) Each pilot in command who deviates from a rule under paragraph (b) of this section shall, upon the request of the Administrator, send a written report of that deviation to the Administrator. There would be a similar rule under ICAO which would also be adopted by most foreign carriers.
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao 10 жыл бұрын
The problem was wind was 210 and they are landing 4R (heading 040 which makes then come from 220) which means they have almost with a tail wing instead of head wind. the pilots notice the problem and asked the wind check. Obviously they think they come in too fast and went around.
@fishwithfredo
@fishwithfredo 10 жыл бұрын
Yep. And as noted in another comment, check out the windsock.
@daerico3654
@daerico3654 10 жыл бұрын
you can even see the windsock, pretty good tailwind
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao 10 жыл бұрын
Eric Wilkins I am emphasizing some how ATC and tower still lined them up when the wind direction is completely wrong. That is a "heavy", those airliners can't land in tailwind. And from the windsock I established they had a tailwind at least 10knots
@RobertMChambers
@RobertMChambers 10 жыл бұрын
Standard windsocks will "straighten out" at 15 knots. If you see a windsock straight out you know the wind speed is AT LEAST 15 knots.
@daerico3654
@daerico3654 10 жыл бұрын
At least,and I agree, cant figure why they were lined up that way. Flight crew made a prudent decision on the go around
@karlrschneider
@karlrschneider 10 жыл бұрын
One of those bothersome $900 detours! :D I've done a few GAs but never even saw a 47 do one. My little MU2 doesn't make quite that much racket.
@yoracerguy
@yoracerguy 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice video - I live close to BOS.
@RidiculousFlightSimmers
@RidiculousFlightSimmers 10 жыл бұрын
My initial thought on why the go around happened was windsheer also... either way, a safety call was made and that's the important part....good call by the pilot! It would be interesting to find out the full details.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I love to know the details Rob! But, as you say, these pilots are amazing, the skill and precision is inspiring. I love watching the take-offs and observing how very differently each pilot will proceed - with the exact same aircraft. I have wondered if it is the younger pilots who take off kind of "low and slow" (more cautious) and the experienced pilots with more confidence who hot shot it down the runway and crank it up like a rocket!!! :)
@busbettis1
@busbettis1 10 жыл бұрын
Really great video. I do have a general question, if a plane, especially one as large as a 747, is so close to landing with flaps down how can it then change so quickly into complete takeoff mode? It seems to me that the decision to abort landing would have to occur much sooner. I'm just looking for a general, conceptual answer not really a technical one.
@Tom10515
@Tom10515 10 жыл бұрын
Attempting to land with an 11 kt tailwind, plus the earliest he could have touched down left more than 3,000 ft of runway behind him and less than 7,000 in front of him looks like a pretty good go around to me. Notice he landed on RWY 22L not 04R as previously cleared.
@gerardmoran9560
@gerardmoran9560 2 жыл бұрын
gebe 59 nailed it. Every airplane I've flown, be it a fighter or transport, the max tailwind for landing is 10 kts. They called 220 at 11G14 or close to that. Perhaps they continued hoping for a decrease in the tailwind but it never happened. The go-around was the right call.
@airboed
@airboed 10 жыл бұрын
First of all awesome video! That Lufthansa is so beautiful! I am from Denmark and going to Boston on July 3rd. Will be arriving from AMS in the Delta A330. My Uncle lives just out of Boston, and I am going to stay at his place for a couple of weeks. Therefore I would like a couple of days of spotting in Boston. So I am asking you if you have any tips on locations and so on. You also probably know the schedule pretty good, so maybe you could tell me some of that too ;-) You can add me on Facebook, or what ever you want, I have pretty much everything. My name is Christian Boed. Thanks in advance and I must say I love your videos!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Christian!!! I just got your message! I will message you on fb. It would be great to get together and I will also try to film your arrival!! Excellent!!!
@rogerprice5323
@rogerprice5323 10 жыл бұрын
By the look of the windsock it was not windshear but it seems like there was a tailwind, which might not have helped the approach profile.
@Airplaneviewer
@Airplaneviewer 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Jen. Maybe a Fruit-Of-The-Loom concession at BOS would be popular!!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Airplaneviewer - so psyched to hear from you! I am so glad I was not on that plane, right?!!! I am such a baby I probably would just have burst out crying - or at least downed the rest of my alcohol - if there was any left at that point!!!. btw, I am still trying to figure out how to use Twitter!!! ;)
@Airplaneviewer
@Airplaneviewer 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 Me to Jen. Twitter is so odd to be on. First off I need more than 140 characters to say my thoughts. So I write something then have to edit and edit and then edit some more. Have a great weekend and keep the camera handy!! :-)
@andyofyork
@andyofyork 10 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Where did you record it? I'm local to the Boston area and always on the lookout for new planespotting spots :)
@markmark3938
@markmark3938 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that was a damn near perfect landing, awesome video 👍👍👍
@distar97
@distar97 10 жыл бұрын
i wonder if the pilot suspected a go around may be necessary and seeing the windsock (or another one) confirmed it.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Dennis I think you are right!
@TrizityTraveling
@TrizityTraveling 10 жыл бұрын
Nice catch! First Matt gets one (under shady ATC) and then you get one...do go arounds come in threes?
@vxracing16
@vxracing16 10 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Vxracing!!! :)
@matthewdrolet9583
@matthewdrolet9583 10 жыл бұрын
Was on this flight yesterday coming in from Frankfurt, they told us it was due to the headwinds. Was a bit more surprised than scared when it happened.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for leaving a comment Matthew! I was hoping a passenger might see this and comment! You must love to fly!!! I am so nervous ever time I fly, I am envious of people like you - who love to fly and maybe you have nerves of steel too!!! :)
@gtg356y
@gtg356y 10 жыл бұрын
Look at the wind sock right before the go around... it's a tailwind of about 10 knots!
@ChosenWon
@ChosenWon 10 жыл бұрын
He probably looked out the windshield while the computer was calculating the ground speed and thought better of landing with a tailwind.
@DJHazzard
@DJHazzard 10 жыл бұрын
Winds come from behind ! 0:30 look the windysack :D i dont now the english word for it !
@jwlanejl
@jwlanejl 10 жыл бұрын
Looks like BOS was trying to sneak one more in before they turned the airport around. When he comes back around on 22L one can see a 22R departure in the background. It's just like we used to do at DFW---keep running 'em in one direction until they start coming out the other side.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jerry and you are right, she was the last!!! It seems like the winds can turn on a dime here in Boston!!! :)
@shaunsprogress
@shaunsprogress 10 жыл бұрын
Look at the windsock @0.31. They have a significant tailwind.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@sabre9970
@sabre9970 10 жыл бұрын
15 sec before they retracted landing gear at G/A. Isn't it a little too long?
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Good question - I do not know!!!
@fbgd
@fbgd 10 жыл бұрын
A go around isn't really a big deal as a passenger, I've experienced quite a few on 747s, 737s, Embrear RJs and A320s and quite close to the ground too. It's just a bit of a lurch from a landing type "drift" in to a takeoff like performance in a matter of a few seconds. Given we're talking jets there is of course some lag as they spool up. No big deal for anyone who has ever flown, but didn't stop some maroon from screaming when we went around at LHR when about 5 seconds from touch down.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Yikes, that moron would be me if I was on the plane, I am such a baby!!! But, I will remember your comments and if I ever experience one, I will try to keep my cool, my mouth shut - and not cry!!! :)
@danjsimonds
@danjsimonds 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with comments about the fine video. Especially liked the framing at 0:30 with the windsock in the foreground. I'll bet the pilot was thinking about a go-around when he asked for the wind check. And I'll bet the controller was not a bit surprised.
@37mckelvie
@37mckelvie 10 жыл бұрын
Surprised no one's even mentioned the windsock....He was landing with a fairly decent tailwind.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Great catch Richard - you are absolutely right!!!
@nik0huelel
@nik0huelel 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Big like!
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
BIG thank you!!! :)
@adcchelsea8990
@adcchelsea8990 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Jen! I wanted to see if you were ok. You haven't posted any videos lately.
@jenf777
@jenf777 9 жыл бұрын
ADC Chelsea Awe, thank you so much ADC Chelsea!!! I know, I am so behind, I moved and I have been so busy. But, I have a bunch of footage and psyched to start uploading again!!! I plan to post a few tomorrow!!!
@adcchelsea8990
@adcchelsea8990 9 жыл бұрын
Yay! I can't wait to watch them!
@Flightbudy2channel
@Flightbudy2channel 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, EPICLY awesome catch.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks you so much for the awesome comment!!! :)
@traviscollins7143
@traviscollins7143 10 жыл бұрын
I saw a British Airways 747 go around on 33L on Wednesday at Logan.
@chicorico70
@chicorico70 10 жыл бұрын
What a blood-running moment for a pilot to be in in a situation like that -- and after 7-8 hours of flying. Better to be safe than sorry. Good job, Lufthansa pilots.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed and great job by the pilot!!!
@brian9681
@brian9681 9 жыл бұрын
Wow....those screaming engines. GE? Such power!!
@karl-heinzzahorsky700
@karl-heinzzahorsky700 10 жыл бұрын
Being a commercial pilot (N662TC), it is always at the discretion of the pilot to accept ATC's advised runway for landing. As with a slight tail wind in this case (look at the windsock) the pilot could have rejected the proposed runway and ask for a runway with a headwind.
@Thunderpig767
@Thunderpig767 10 жыл бұрын
because if you're landing runway 04 and winds are from 210, thats a pretty good tail wind even for a heavy
@ryanrobinson3270
@ryanrobinson3270 10 жыл бұрын
Never seen the flaps at the root of the wing shutter so much on t/d before...
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Great observation!!!
@RobertMChambers
@RobertMChambers 10 жыл бұрын
That windsock showed they were attempting a tailwind landing, I don't blame him for going around. I've been in a 747 that did a go-around in Dallas when I was a kid.. Braniff airlines Fat Albert (big orange)
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert - I am very happy to have never experienced a go. One of the other commenters who had said, "first the plane gets really quiet, then all you hear is the roar of the engines and then the woman next to you starts telling you her life story".. yup, I would be that woman!!! :)
@RobertMChambers
@RobertMChambers 10 жыл бұрын
As a pilot (small planes) we practice go - around as it is an essential safety move. If you have an unstable approach which will end up with a questionable landing outcome the best plan is to go - around and try it again.
@brianthibault5929
@brianthibault5929 10 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the windsock? It appeared that he was landing with a tailwind.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
I missed it at first - but you and others with a sharp eye caught that!!!
@brianthibault5929
@brianthibault5929 10 жыл бұрын
jenf777 I didn't scroll down and read all the comments. I just re-watched the video, and Tower even indicates the winds are 210@11G14. That's a good tailwind!! Almost 180 deg. There must have been reasons why he was landing on that runway.
@Vbuttstedt
@Vbuttstedt 10 жыл бұрын
Look at the Windsock, they were getting tailwind at landing, probably the reason of the GA
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Yup, Vincent - I thin you are right!!! :)
@supercruiser1946
@supercruiser1946 10 жыл бұрын
Every turbo jet aircraft has a limitation on the tail wind component allowed, and I've never seen it more than 10 knots, it's industry standard. With the gust component it would have been a 14 knot tailwind. Yes he could have landed but if anything had gone badly, he'd have some explaining to do on why he attempted to land exceeding the tailwind limitation.
@619sdbdub
@619sdbdub 10 жыл бұрын
I had the displeasure of experiencing two aborted landings several years ago (on the same flight) when flying into KSAN/09 during a really odd tropical storm. Pucker factor extremely high!!
@katdeskinner
@katdeskinner 10 жыл бұрын
Look at the wind sock!! They are landing in the wrong direction. They are landing with the wind, mabe i'm wrong, but shouldn't aircraft be landing into the wind??
@kestixmac
@kestixmac 10 жыл бұрын
Left landing light not working
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Wow - good catch, it does look like it is not blinking!!!
@TheMarcogoon49
@TheMarcogoon49 10 жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@loislettini1048
@loislettini1048 10 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a landing in the 70s at LAX on AA whereby it appeared as though we were almost on the ground when kthe pilot suddenly took the plane back up, over the ocean and came around again in what seemed like a NY minute. There was a small aircraft on the runway which he only told us about once we were safely up in the air again. I don't want a repeat that too often!!
@danglobotomy8097
@danglobotomy8097 10 жыл бұрын
very nice !!!
@chuckgarrity7230
@chuckgarrity7230 10 жыл бұрын
Wind 210 G14. A general rule says you should not have more than a 10 knot tailwind. For one thing, it "eats" up runway. In the video, you can clearly see the windsock indicating a pretty good tailwind. You can also see the 3000' marker around the place where they "take it around". The ideal touchdown zone is 1500' from the approach end and this ship is clearly beyond that. Yes, he could have pranged it on at the 3000' point, but it then would have required HARD braking to stop. Many pilots has tried these long touchdown points and been successful, but a number have ended up off the end of the runway, damaging or destroying a ship. Wise move to just take it around. Boston Approach should have put this plane on runway 22 in the first place.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Great observations and information - thank you!!!
@ELPaso1990TX
@ELPaso1990TX 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn’t pull the flaps and landing gear up a lot sooner.
@momotube9656
@momotube9656 10 жыл бұрын
I always use Lufthansa I once had a very rough landing the plane hit the ground too hard like the people actually jumped from the seat it was gonna happen just like this like her landed in the middle of the runway it was exciting Does Canada have long eunways
@arkerpasymth7695
@arkerpasymth7695 10 жыл бұрын
Wind blowing fwd from the tail destroys lift.
@jgardner7944
@jgardner7944 10 жыл бұрын
Wind shift, check the wind sock at .30 seconds
@shanetorgerson3880
@shanetorgerson3880 10 жыл бұрын
Look at the windsock! Could have something to do with the massive tailwind.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Grat eye Shane - thank you!!
@RUssianPilot757
@RUssianPilot757 10 жыл бұрын
Jen, have you ever tried flying a flight simulator?
@airplanefanvideo
@airplanefanvideo 7 жыл бұрын
great catch ✈ nice to see this from a 747 ... greetings from LEJ ... like and sub your channel 🤗🤗🤗🤗
@seagullsbtn
@seagullsbtn 7 жыл бұрын
A Togo happened to me in a Speedbird 747 @ logan. Probably one of the only passengers who had that oh shit why moment....
@pinklacelady
@pinklacelady 10 жыл бұрын
What does "heavy" mean? Is that what he is saying? 420 heavy?
@Leo10842013
@Leo10842013 10 жыл бұрын
"Heavy" indicates the aircraft's weight is 225,000 Lbs. or heavier.
@tomcatv1
@tomcatv1 10 жыл бұрын
I hope the passengers besides landing safely got a few extra FFMiles.
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
I think that is a great idea!!!
@neurospizz75
@neurospizz75 10 жыл бұрын
awesome
@jenf777
@jenf777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Larry!!! :)
@neurospizz75
@neurospizz75 10 жыл бұрын
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