GO BACK to a wine store to buy this now! (Pinot Noir part 2)

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

It's very comforting (and interesting) to see the $20-$17 wines hold their own and even beat the more expensive wines. This is good. It makes wine a lot more approachable.

[@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine]

Faiveley's Bourgogne Rouge is a very good wine ... I have it in my cellar so I don't have to run this time 😉

[@Rafael-Castro]

My two favorite wine channels on KZbin. Cheers

[@Tops1212]

@@Rafael-Castro What other wine channel do you watch Rafael?

[@AWN.C]

Kondtantin Baum channel, I love it as well. Interesting editing and his speaking and gesture 🙂

[@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine]

@@Rafael-Castro Thanks!

[@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine]

@@AWN.C Thank you!

[@henrik.norberg]

"I'm not always right" - That is what I LOVE to hear from experts, the humble insight that they still are learning. Respect!

[@Spelpojken]

Thanks Peter for mentioning the cost to the planet. I’ve always loved how you both speak about wines, but this is even more important. Takes courage (even if it shouldn’t). Thanks again.

[@peterhaerens3014]

I love those honest, straightforward, yet nuanced reactions. Your content really helps me a lot in selecting the right wines for the right price.

[@paulwright740]

At last, a wine expert who equates wine quality with price and who gives an honest opinion.

[@louishenry4714]

Lucien Lemoine (meaning Lucien the monk) is actually a burgundy "négoce" society made by a lebanese guy named Mounir Saouma. He also created the "clos Saouma" domain in Châteauneuf-du-Pape.

[@nicpro85]

thank you for your note!

[@estest82]

와인 좋아하지도 않고.. 가끔 기념할 만한 날이 가서 마시는 거 말고는, 집에는 맥주 소주 위스키 종류 밖에는 없는데, 오늘 하루 종일 와인킹 유튜브를 보고 있네요 너무나 유쾌하고 마음을 치는 멋진 순간들이 가득해요.. 가슴이 꽉 차는 기분이에요 이번 크리스마스에는 가족들과 와인을 마셔 봐야겠습니다 두종류를 사서 비교 하면서요

[@Tops1212]

Another fantastic review gentlemen 👏👏👏👏 Just picked up a case of Louis Jadot pinot, Peppoli, Le volte and all on your recommendations, thankyou...

[@markj4066]

Just grabbed 2 bottles of the 2018 Louis Jadot Pinot Noirfor $18 each. Its 10 in the morning but I couldn't wait to try it. Please don't judge me HAHAHA .Excellent value. You guys are the best.

[@EttivertC]

I've enjoyed the Jadot Bourgogne Rouge many times, and I've had the Faiveley Bourgogne Rouge as well. I totally agree with your responses to both -- great value for very good wine! The only other Faiveley I've had is the 2018 Mercurey La Framboisière, which I think was $80. That one didn't seem overpriced to me, but Faiveley has so many that I see how this can be a problem sometimes. Thanks for this great session...!

[@Birdylockso]

No surprise the better entry level wines came from the big and reputable producers. Louis Jadot and Faiveley make solid wines. Those prices are amazing!

[@philippedemecheleer2381]

Some translations from French: Moin = Less, Moine = Monk. Nice tasting and good comments about the wines. I will try the wines of Jadot. Just checked my wine store and they sell it. Greetings from Flanders, the Dutch speaking part of Belgium.

[@eganmichael8]

I so often wonder how the return process works for corked wines. Especially ones that cost a lot of money. As Peter said they will probably give you a hard time, and I would imagine they might want to taste it themselves to make sure it really is corked, and while that shouldn't be subjective, I would imagine people selling wines worth a lot of money might be inclined to act like they're not corked when they are. It must be an awkward exchange that I'm glad I have never had to have... but also...strangely it's unfortunate that I've never had to have that experience because I don't get to regularly buy and taste a bunch of expensive bottles of wine lol. Come to think of it I'd gladly trade those few-and-far-between moments of awkwardness for a lifetime of buying and tasting great wines 😫

[@kathleen8294]

Ha! - 'it's always the expensive wines' that have issues. You two are so impressive with your knowledge. I know what I'm going to 'run out' and buy now! Merci beaucoup.

[@igormord8636]

For just extra $10 you could get a 2019 Faiveley Mercurey Vieilles Vignes, which in my opinion a much better wine and at least you know where the grapes come from. When bottle says "Bourgogne, those grapes could have been sourced from anywhere in that region, but for the one I mentioned, you know exactly where they were harvested and it's just a much better showing, even though aroma was very good for the one you suggested, but finish was lacking. Thanks.

[@brongil4520]

OMG Master can feel the difference of 2018 and 2017.

[@Lozo39]

I think 2017 was cooler than 2018 and also had frost so that might translate in the wine somehow

[@brongil4520]

@@Lozo39 nice info. Thanks!

[@fabiorodriguez4207]

Hello Jay. My wife and I are loving your channel. I searched but haven’t seen reviews on California Pinot Noirs. I would like to see a reviewer comparing different American Pinot Noirs. Keep the good work!

[@arnaudpascal1691]

Lemoine (le moine) means The monk. So it does not mean less, but in french the adjective related to moine, "monacal" (monastic) is used to decribe something austere, ascetic, and minimalistic.

[@MDL-lw9my]

Many thanks. Quite difficult to find good entry level Bourgogne Rouge.

[@robertthrossell4321]

Peter has a fantastic tasting ability 👍as he should, gr8 video guys..

[@scandinavianserialki]

I love that Faiveley Bourgogne Rouge. I think the 2019 is even better than the 2018. The Faiveley Gevery-Chambertin is also excellent. Both of those were my picks for Thanksgiving. The bottle of Gevery-Chambertin I got was a 2015 though.

[@jmb989]

Would love to see a tasting of boxed wine -- no "too much glass" rants from Peter...but it'd probably be a full new set of rants.

[@simply417guy]

I’d love to see that too, but don’t even let Peter see the the boxes sitting there, so he doesn’t pre-judge 😊 and mix in 1-2 bottled wines just as an immediate comparison

[@jmb989]

@@simply417guy -- even better -- mix in quality bottles that are also available boxed.

[@yanava]

There is one even cheaper - Jean Bouchard Bourgogne Pinot Noir. It should be on par with the Lous Jadot. Not sure how easy it is to find it in US, but I managed to pay about 13 - 14 dollars for it. It is a really pleasant wine to drink.

[@tellmestraight]

I found the Jadot Bourgogne and the Faiveley Bourgogne as well (Total Wine). They both were good but I liked Faiveley a little more as the WineKings said!

[@craig7887]

It's funny, they have 10 bottles of wine open and Peter says "I'm going to have my wife open a bottle of wine"!

[@momentsinlove4525]

일반적인 크리틱 점수와 MW분들 의견이 불일치하는 케이스들 한 번 짚어주는 영상도 찍어주세요!

[@user497-w4f]

Love this channel a lot. Learn a lot n laugh a lot too. Thanks guys ❤

[@spy7778]

You could do a program with wines from Argentina, there are excellent wines, especially Malbec and Torrontes, which for me are the best of them. world in those variety of grapes. Thank you

[@je3087]

Thank you for the wine game Jae and Peter.

[@dabbsy100]

Le Moine is négoce renowned for only producing ~100 barrels per year solely from 1er and Grand Crus. The Bourgogne white/red (the fruit source(s) is never disclosed) have always been a bit of a mystery to me and have often been disappointing. The higher level Crus are often spectacular and remain relatively decent value for money vs other domaine bottlings. They get vastly superior with age as well.

[@SoupErman01]

How about a blind tasting comparing new and old world pinot noirs? I live in a pinot noir region (Central Otago, NZ) and would love to see how we stack up to Burgundy pinot noirs in a blind comparison!

[@에그인]

한국에 미국보다 싼 부르고뉴 와인이 있다.조셉페블레 부르고뉴 19900원....

[@benpascall4297]

The faiveley chorey les beune Is also beautiful for a little bit more

[@peterbooth6753]

Jay, there's a red wine in a very heavy bottle that I think is excellent value. It's related, in a way, to a much cheaper wine that you reviewed positively. It's a Monastrell blend, "Clio", by Bodegas El Nido. It's made by an Australian, Chris Ringland, at a winery adjacent to the Juan Gil winery in Jumilla.

[@zachariawannous9173]

Why did patrick start his own youtube channel?! The three of you was the best!

[@DrinkWater713]

I prefer this way. Before they would talk over each other and the videos took too long. This way is more organized, cleaner, faster and Peter gets more space to be funny.

[@MrJcalvino]

Could you drop his channel? Didn’t know that he had one.

[@distlledbrewedreviewed]

Hello my fellow wine lovers, this channel is great.

[@jyoono]

이 영상을 처음에 보고 좋다고 하셨던 피노누아를 적어 놨었는데 엊그제 코스트코에서 "페블레 피노누아"를 발견했지 뭡니까? 심지어 이만원도 안되는 가격에! 빈티지 차이인지는 모르겠습니다만 말씀하신 가격보다 싸서 얼른 가져왔어요. 기대 됩니다!

[@BlackFaceTrudeau]

"Le moine" doesn’t mean "less", "moins" means less. "Le Moine" actually means "the monk"

[@timoheinrich8763]

Just french things :D

[@distlledbrewedreviewed]

Excellent my wine drinking friends.

[@AShiga]

Make one with Cote Challonaise, please 🤩🙏🏿 Especially Domaine de Villaine's

[@jaecheokkim99]

환불 영상 있으면 보고싶네요 ~^^ 좋은영상 감사합니다. 항상 화욜 아침이 기다려지네요.

[@stefanomagri5530]

Going to repeat myself, but I would really love to see a video comparing Franciacorta and Champagne, at price point…being analyzed by you two experts should be the wine’s honor! Thank a lot!

[@sommeliermicheleorbolato9896]

I love Faiveley's wines. Very good quality at fair prices! Highly recommended!

[@derekzomonski598]

J, trust your instincts. You have a phenomenal palate. Be fearless

[@hyeryunlee7683]

조셉 페블레 부르고뉴 레드 피노누아 제가 좋아하는 와인인데... ㅋㅋ 두 분이 좋다 해주시니 괜히 어깨 뽕 솟았어요 .

[@Lk77ful]

For me it's always Jadot or Drouhin, or small producers like François Trapet or Alain Burguet in Gevrey Chambertin. i never had a bad Jadot for example, very stable winemaking. Drouhin is a little less stable, but overall quality is very good i like Lucien Boillot too, it's a little random but i had a few good bottles. Try out red Chassagne-Montrachet i love it, it's mostly a white wine village, but the few reds they produce are very good, like "Ducs de Magenta"

[@freedomsavior]

호다다닥~~~~! 신대륙 피노누아 시리즈들도 언젠가 기대해봅니다ㅋㅋㅋ

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I HATE when an expensive wine is corked. One of the most frustrating things for a wine lover... Big fan of Faiveley too! You should have thrown a Meomi in to make Peter mad LOL

[@CassieAfricanQueen]

I love Meomi LOL that’s how I found this channel 😂😂😂

[@김헌규-q2b]

이 채널 통틀어서도 정말 배울 것 많은 영상임. 기회되면 꼭 뵙고싶습니다 와인킹행님 - 부산사는 와린이 촌놈 -

[@Daemodal83]

볼 때마다 선생님이 빈티지를 다 맞추시는데... 사실상 매해 기후나 온도, 습도 등을 다 기억 하신다는 건데 ㄷㄷㄷ

[@aglio4042]

와인 좋아하는 사람이면 근데 거의 다 해요 빈티지가 엄청 중요한 보르도는 말할것도 없고 부르고뉴는 뭐 워낙에 인기가있는 곳이니까요

[@ciccic1100]

빈티지 마다의 특성은 기본이죠.. 와인 좋아하는 사람이면 다 알듯

[@pikachu_guitar]

아는 것과 블라인드 테이스팅으로 맞추는 건 다른 거죠... ㅎㄷㄷ

[@tjp5062]

@@pikachu_guitar ㅇㄱㄹㅇ 아는거랑 블라인드테이스팅으로 척척 맞추는거 완전다른건데. 볼때마다 소름돋습니다.

[@aglio4042]

@@pikachu_guitar 네 저도 그렇게 생각해요 다만 이런거 기억은 다들 하는거고 진짜 어려운거는 그걸 맛보고 맞춘다는거니까요

[@user-yq1ff5zb4w]

이 형님 영상은 거를 게 없네요. 항상 감사드립니다!

[@planbprodigy]

Had a '18 chambolle musingy Louis jadot, paid 85$, it was really great

[@eddiewblim]

Lucien Le Moine is one of my favourite value wines especially the premier and grand cru range. Their village wines have lesser value perhaps because of the bottle. The Bourgogne sells for 18 euros so I guess the US distributor enjoys a hugh margin.

[@duncansalmon5718]

Thank you for the Pinot noir videos! Now I'm off to look for some Faiveley Bourgogne Rouge. I'd love to see you two look at a selection of PINOTAGE!!

[@tf2heavy2]

Can you do a video of you returning a faulty wine? I’d like to know how that process goes for you.

[@danielhicks1682]

1947 Cheval Blanc is loaded with TCA and is considered an all time great

[@akma8414]

AF그로 꼬뜨드뉘 도 칭찬 많이 받았는데, 베스트4에는 못들었네요~~ㅎ

[@TheSommNextDoor]

Haha SEND IT BACK Jay. It's always so sad when you have an expensive corked wine.

[@HD-yv4ky]

그저 궁금해서 그러는데 저 그랑크뤼와인(1:30) 환불 하셨나용???

[@wineking]

예~

[@austintyler7901]

I wish I could read wingdings...😔😆

[@austintyler7901]

Please never sell out. No advertising or sponsorship. Go with patreon, KZbin join, etc. Please don't every compromise. I will be buying your recommendations for all wines up till this point. I would also recommend reading out to online retailers and obtaining a coupon code to track your referrals and get a kick back. I will gladly use your referral code on established, respectable online retailers.

[@gregoryfruish9994]

Merci pour la vidéo ! Pour moi Jadot, Drouhin et dans une autre mesure faiveley sont vraiment de belle maisons sérieuse et efficaces, mais ells participent également à la standardisation des goûts , dur dilemme...

[@pigspigs76]

I just acquired the Louis Jadot. the man handed me a bottle from the box he was restocking with and than fetched me the Perrin Les Sinards châteaunuf du pape 2018, will report back following the weekend

[@pigspigs76]

The Pino I acquired was actually a 2019 but it was great! I shared it with family and they appreciated its price to quality and will seek out more bottles. Thanks 👍

[@Lk77ful]

The cheap one ?

[@pigspigs76]

@@Lk77ful I mean it's all relevant .. and a price just reflects the market not the quality. But yea it was one of the least expensive ones and it was punching well above its price point. I worked at a winery and it was amazing how the power of suggestion can make or break people's perceptions

[@cheeseqwerty]

혹시 부쇼네 같은 와인 환불 받는 과정도 촬영 가능한가요?,

[@scoobe79]

부쇼네 아니라고 우기는가게들도 많거든요.

[@Yong-HyunPark]

일반인이 부쇼네 확인 어렵다고 말씀하신 적 있으실걸요... 허허 쉽지 않을 듯 합니다

[@scoobe79]

@@Yong-HyunPark 아 그뜻이 아니라. 가게입장에선 불량 나오면 한병물어주는거니 자기네가봤을땐 괜찮다는 우기는경우 많다는겁니다. 와인관련자격증있는 전문가 아니여도 더많이 마셔보고 상한맛과 아닌것에 아는 일반인도 많습니다.

[@olivieraeschlimann2547]

Always so funny as well as instructive to watch you tasting wine, just in case ... lemoine means the monk :-)

[@ApriliaRacer14]

I found the absolute best California Pinot Noir and not going to tell anyone….muah ha ha!!!!

[@진현우-z2r]

아쉬운 부쇼네가 나왔군요ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ 지금까지 올려주셨던 영상 중 부쇼네가 나왔던 와인들만 모아서 다시 한번 평가 해주시면 좋을것 같아요! 부쇼네가 나왔던 와인들이 온전한 상태에서 제대로된 평가를 받게 되면 어떨지 무척이나 궁금합니다ㅎㅎㅎ

[@UnusSedLeo-w5l]

So, the cheaper the Bourgogne, the better! I like!

[@sirakisol3765]

뮈지니 이름값 하는군요~ 등급이 높지 않은 와인도 역시 누가 만드는가에 따라서 차이가 확연히 나기도 하네요~ 믿고 마시는 생산자~ 뭐 이런 느낌의 영상이네요~

[@byeongjunsong8904]

피터 스승님은 정말 대단한거 같습니다. 이마트 스마트 오더로 루이자도는 좀 구했는데 페블리 구하러 출동해야겠네요 ㅎㅎ

[@준홍-g7q]

정말 얼마나 기다렸는지 몰라요ㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜ와인킹님 고마워요!

[@DanA-bt7dr]

Interesting that in a lot of your tastings some of the high priced wines are not worth it to you both or just simply flawed. It seems to show that there's a gamble in spending a lot! It would be interesting to do a follow-up to the Bordeaux tasting with all value picks (without telling Peter, or tricking him) to see what he thinks. It's also a bummer that I search for a lot of the wines you taste and they are not available in my market in Canada! Jadot is quite big and available to me, I will try a bottle of the Jadot Bourgogne and maybe the Beaujolais at one point! For the viewers, one of my favourite values I've had is Roche de Bellene!

[@GGtheRealest]

Peter always recommends doing some research on the bottles. I'm going to look for that Jadot tonight

[@MrSatoshi05]

いつも日本からも楽しくみてます！ 日本語字幕大変助かります！ 時々漢字が違ったりするけど、理解するのに全く問題ないです！

[@moonkyukim6915]

부쇼네 와인 환불하는 과정도 보고싶어요~~ 패트릭 사부님께는 가산탕진 시리즈 안하시나요?

[@derekzomonski598]

My thoughts: buy several wines at the same price point and compare them. Price vs. experience. Varietal and blend be damned.

[@SiminEleven]

오우! 저 기본급은 페블레를 루이자도보다 좋아하는데!💕 결국 그로패밀리중 개인적으로 좋아하는 A.F그로의 호평와인이 등장했군요!😍

[@marciobukowski9836]

I'd love to see your opinion about the Belle Glos wines

[@tntbrett]

what a great video. peter's insight and knowledge is incredible

[@dennyademi]

Love the knowledge. What happens to all those beautiful unfinished bottles??

[@wineking]

We finished them!

[@Daisy-td1jn]

이걸보고 자야 꿀잠이~!!

[@pipemanslim8659]

No idea what your saying when you announce your favorites. List them would help!

[@brianyoung3]

Turn on the subtitles. All will be revealed.

[@LupusUmbra]

6. Joseph Drouhin Gran Cru Clos de Vougeot 13 $200 - 7. Lucien le Moine Bourgogne Rouge 17 $60 - 8. Faiveley Bourgogne Rouge 18 $23 + 9. Faiveley Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Lavaux Saint-Jacques 18 $120 - (decanted?) 10. Domaine A.F. Gros Chabolle-Musigny 18 $100 + 11. Danjean-Berthoux Bourgogne Vieilles Vignes Choume Ronde $18 + + and - for if it is worth the price Found this channel yesterday and had the same reaction so I made this

[@austintyler7901]

@@LupusUmbra not all heroes were capes.

[@sss-8901]

이영상으로af그로금액은. 수입사에서 한번 또 샵에서 금액이올랐다는 말로 한번더오를것이고 중요한건 구하지 못할거라는거ㅋㅋ 샹볼은 본로마네에비해 조금 사람들이 덜샀는데 이제af그로샹볼 다사들이는 사람들 생기겠네요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 참 씁쓸한

[@DAndersonJoe]

와인과 데드리프트 중량의 상관관계를 알려주세여~ we want to know the correlation between drinking high quality wine and deadlife weight!

[@nalljin]

오늘도 좋은영상 감사합니다.

[@hikking.with.harrison]

Are you going to get your Master of Wine Jay?

[@후추모르]

와인킹님 혹시 국내에서 쉽게구할수있는 대용량팩와인들은 블라인드하실생각없나요 대표적인 예로 코스트코에 하디스 까쇼가있잖아요. 혼술이 늘면서 팩와인도 부담없이 빼마시기좋더라구요

[@seb_yt6695]

Curious, but did you have trouble bringing the 6th one back?

[@chiaroscuro5686]

국내에서 A.F그로 레지오날 급은 찾기도 어렵고 빌라주 급은 이제 거진 10만원 후반에사 20만원 돌파한 와인들도 많습니다 ㅜㅜ 특히 저 18빈 샹볼은 22만원에 판매하는 곳도 보았고... 인기 많은 본로마네 오레아도 이제는 가격이 20만원을 바라보는.... 중국에서 수요가 급증해 가격인상이 이해가 안되는것은 아니지만 너무 급격하게 올라 불곤은 이제 먹기가 쉽지가 않습니다 ㅠ

[@liova22]

Af 그로 샹볼뮈지니가 100불이라니 부럽네요!! 심지어 지금은 환율도 올라서.. 2023년 서울에서 댓글 남깁니다

[@robertwest3032]

"Le Moine" means "the monk". "Le moins" would be "the least".

[@mcko9023]

조셉 페블레 부르고뉴 코스트코에서 2만원 정도에 팔았는데 마셔보고 주변에도 추천했더니 꽤 평이 좋더군요. 저도 3~4번 구입한 듯 가성비 최곱니다ㅎㅎ

[@2ch9999]

브랜디 꼬냑 종류도 영상 보고싶어요~

[@FlagadorTV]

Le moine actually translates to "the monk", "moins" means less !

[@marcusmarcula]

I'm curious if you guys would be willing to do a flight of organic or nsa wines.

[@prunoesko5470]

Bacterial infections

[@김동섭-c3e]

a.f그로는 한국에서 너무비싸요 ㅠㅠ

[@CraigSoupen]

Have you tasted any south african wines on this channel?

[@kolmeray9824]

I mean no offence, however why not use a Coravin to preserve your bottles for future tastings and enjoyment. Ive taken to using mine even on the budget minded bottles ($20s) as it only adds a few dollars a bottle.

[@someoneelse2262]

Faiveley's wines take forever to age. Almost impossible to evaluate the upper-level wines when they are young. They take years to come together.

[@_APV_]

Do they publish their ratings somewhere, or just throw away the papers after video is done?

[@younghoonsong4553]

다 맛보고 싶네요!

[@jorgekde]

200 dolars bottle faulty with TCA, ouch, that hurts.