God of War Ragnarok - Rare dialogue about Thor's wound

[@dta4964]

Explanation: The leviathan axe was infused by jormungandrs venom in 2018 in god of war Ragnarok the first fight with Thor when Kratos hits him in the stomach leaving the wound meaning Thor was posioned and forseti thought someone in Asgard tried to poison Thor not knowing it was the cause of the leviathan axe.

[@killchor7075]

fucking well done brother 🥰 just was gonna say that ❤️❤️😭😭 thanks 👍

[@godofgaminganmol5137]

its called Eitr, i forgot that it was imbued in the axe when we awakened the cradle of the world. and i was fucking pondering all over trying to find why the fuck that damn wound aint heal yet

[@Tristan_00715]

well its could be true. but thor is a fighter. he may just left the wound there as a trophy. proof that he survived kratos. could be possible. I mean its thor.

[@finger3306]

@@Tristan_00715 no, that wound is unable to heal because of the serpents venom imbued in the axe

[@matthewriley7826]

Could also be Forseti’s dad was poisoned by a certain strand of mistletoe….

[@aledg25]

So weird how much Forseti is mentioned and yet is seemingly nowhere to be seen, and neither Odin, Freya nor Baldur brings him up even once.

[@sidkoneswaran9648]

that was what I was thinking throughout the game unless they want to make him an antagonist for Atreus and his standalone game as he is the god of justice so he wants to get that by trying to kill Atreus or something

[@andray310]

Yo so I have a theory that this will be part of a DLC they put out. Focusing on Atreus, Freya or maybe even Thrud. You can call me crazy. I know.

[@GameLover45408]

@@andray310 The Game Devs had stated no dlc would be made.

[@andray310]

@@GameLover45408 “the game devs” didn’t say shit. The game director said “probably not” I know what he said. And I can still theorize.

[@andray310]

@@sidkoneswaran9648 yo that’s actually a really good antagonist. Maybe he follows Atreus wherver he goes to try to fight him

[@normalcornfornormalpeople5581]

Asgardian: Poison Thor? Thats ridiculous! Jörmungandr: *Hold my Eitr*

[@justnoob8141]

Stoll not sure if it’s “Venom Shower” or “Ouch, a spike!”

[@see_ya_chump4307]

"He looked "paranoid", more than usual" Interesting meaning behind this. Long time ago that Thor fought such a strong enemy. Still impressive that Thor was well after Leviathan was crashed into his belly and poisoned him.

[@matthewriley7826]

Losing a dad will make someone paranoid. And Odin probably fabricated Baldurs demise to make him more useful to him.

[@holliswilliams8426]

Baldur was a bit too OP for Odin's comfort

[@noahsibahi-jackson8757]

@@holliswilliams8426 Literally the complete opposite, why he would have wanted Buldur dead when he had stated a dissatisfaction with his death?

[@EllenJoe_is_my_virtual_wife]

Twice actually, then stabbed i think twice as well which is amazing how he's still standing

[@bruhmoment5916]

@@holliswilliams8426 Odin knew he was strong so he saw it best to have him as an ally I guess

[@BaneofBots]

The reason his wound couldn’t heal is because of Jörmungandrs venom, Thor’s Godly powers were only enough to close the wound and stabilise him, but the wound was now a permanent, or at least a very long-lasting weak point for further combat.

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

So basically Thor wasn't immune to threats physical or magical

[@Clyde975]

@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 moreso that The World Serpent's Venom is potent enough to stop gods from healing correctly

[@ChefinBb]

All Mights stomach be like

[@isdrakon9802]

Of which kratos takes full advantage of. He hits that wound a lot

[@BaneofBots]

@@isdrakon9802 yeah, he does target the wound a lot

[@Director.Joeson]

For people who do not know Forseti is the god of justice in Norse myth and is baulder’s son

[@7hepenguinMan]

Is he a good guy? I mean justice = good right?

[@darkpool7289]

@@7hepenguinMan Zeus was also technically a god of justice, look how he turned out.

[@DNephilim]

@@darkpool7289 well he was actually kind of nice before kratos opened the box to kill Ares but after that he was a complete dickhead...

[@andrewch4066]

In IT Forseti is used as a name for the collection of security tools Well, justice, security... kinda related

[@eddie103]

Did Baldur conceive Forseti before or after his curse? Because if it was after, it wouldn’t make much sense.

[@Pastamist]

This makes me wish we got to see more gods. We know Forseti exists now, Idunn (from her apples), Njörd (Freya/Freyr’s father, mentioned by Mimir), and Vidar (Literal armor named after him)- Ullr and Hödr would be cool additions.

[@lenardbordo9838]

Perhaps in a novel or a comic. And I wonder if Skadi really dies from the cold. In the myths she married Njörd at one point.

[@ededdandeddytv5164]

Too bad the Norse saga is over 🤗

[@ExactlySandwich]

Also Skadi, mentioned by fake Sigrun.

[@ogeraldo1388]

Njord is dead

[@dylanmatthewper2003]

Njord isn’t dead. Hoðr and Viðarr are There in the game appearing, check it out in the Fandom God Of War!

[@bdhhsgbyddhggg]

Imagine that conversation when Thor got home from fighting Kratos Forseti: Oh hey Thor welcome ho- OH MY ODIN WHAT THE Thor: What? Forseti: Dude, you have a giant slash across your stomach Thor: Yeah I know Forseti: How did THAT happen? Thor: An axe Forseti: Bro who was using the axe? Zeus? Thor: No, his son Forseti: Hercules? Thor: No the other one Forseti: Wait, you mean- Thor: Kratos, yeah Forseti: And what did you do that pissed him off so bad? Thor: I smacked him through his roof Forseti: Why? Thor: Odin told me to Forseti: I hate all of you

[@sriharirammohan5346]

Well scripted, my friend, well scripted. Also was Forseti a brother to Thor (and Baldur, etc.)?

[@GreedyOrange]

@@sriharirammohan5346 forseti is the son of baldur and some chics name i forgott,i believe he haas half siblings through baldur aswell

[@rikajougasaki3296]

@@GreedyOrange Forseti probably has different heritage in GOW. Overall we'll never know and we'll never even see his face.

[@DNephilim]

If ragnarok dialogue was written by a 12 year old*

[@MenacingTato69420]

@@GreedyOrange Nanna. Her name was Nanna.

[@nelsoncastellanos5992]

That beer belly save him from a letal blow

[@abraxesprime7832]

Aww he’ll get better, kratos got stabbed once, then he jumped off a mountain onto a dragon, fell from the clouds at speeds causing his body to ignite, then leaped into hel. He did all this while trying to rescue his kid

[@oosmanbeekawoo]

More like mead belly

[@matthewriley7826]

Seems like Forseti’s gotten paranoid after what happened to his father….

[@marksantiago9841]

So paranoid that he refused to show up in the game.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

@@marksantiago9841 lmao for real, for some reason I thought it was another valkyrie. Guess not.

[@elviraweekes3906]

I wonder what would happen if Zeus got hit with that poison because. His regeneration is insane so would the poison counteract it? Will the cut be permanent or will it just take a long time to regenerate?

[@L0rdofTurkeys]

Eitr, Jormungandr's venom, has the power to kill gods and even poisen the entire sky in the actual mythology. The posen is what kills thor in mythology, and its what cause the permanent cut on thor's side. Safe to say it is a god killing chemical, so it would do a pretty heafty amount of damage tho zeus.

[@Supprt-dn9nn]

@@L0rdofTurkeys Baldur: not impressed.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

@@L0rdofTurkeys maybe, but it's possible the rules might not apply from one pantheon to another.

[@L0rdofTurkeys]

@@chefboiardeeznutz9881 Could be the case, but we've seen the blades of chaos just as powerful in the norse realms, so there must still be some power transfer. But its all just theory at the end of the day.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

@@L0rdofTurkeys yeah that's true. It's fun though lol

[@LeonColvet]

Ok people seemed to be very confused about it The dialogue could just be a reference to the original way Thor dies in mythology, it would have been very different if they had been talking about the wound Reminder: Baldur was also wounded by the same axe already imbued with Eitr and even after they broke the spell, Baldur not only survived that but also regenerated Thor just possibly does not have the ability to do that

[@Lenotaur]

I agree, I have been scratching my head wondering how people are making the leap that the gash in Thor's gut had anything to do with poison.

[@7hepenguinMan]

@@Lenotaur Eitr is Lethal To gods The reason Baldur Healed from it is probably because He got better at healing from Trying to kill himself too many times

[@phuongvudong7243]

I think it's because Baldur is invulnerable to all threat magical and physical. Up until he punched Atreaus. But by that time, he was killed

[@Xeno_Solarus]

@@Lenotaur Because people know their myths and lore? It's not a leap.

[@DNephilim]

@@phuongvudong7243 Even after punching the mistletoe arrow baldur healed extremely fast after eatimg the axe to his shoulder...

[@LionofDawn]

There was no mention of Thor's wound here. One might assumed it's implied, but thats making 'a mountain out of a molehill'.

[@kylekatarn1986]

Ok, if they do not do a DLC about Forseti, I would be quite disappointed. They talk about him a lot and never saw him? Come on, are they trying to keep the hype? Considering that the Norse Story has ended, now we are going to see him...

[@ВладиславБулаев-л3э]

We have heard about Morpheus in the Greek games and still never seen him, so what? Forseti is just like him, another no-name worthless God in mythology (read: he doesn't do shit, he's irrelevant)

[@kaushikhegde8227]

Also considering he is Baldur's son and by that extension Odin and Freya's grandson

[@elevated6941]

​​@@kaushikhegde8227 bro, they didn't even bother to put Vidar!? Like what?? He's literally the one who kill Fenrir! And speaking of Fenrir.. why did the include the serpent fight with Thor, but not the Fenrir fight with Odin? God this game.. it's still good, but it's definitely rushed and underwhelming..

[@velqcity3802]

@@elevated6941 why would they put vidar in fenrir isnt supposed to die the whole thing was fenrir being brought back vua the soul transfer

[@elevated6941]

@@velqcity3802 they put the world serpent Vs Thor and neither of them died, when in mythology he's supposed to kill the serpent and the serpent is supposed to poison him to death.

[@Crossbones6732]

And here I thought Thor wasn’t healing that wound deliberately, keeping it as a reminder or something.

[@Kaidofan-n4r]

Maybe for his attack on Kratos for the blood payment or you know.

[@darkpumpDP]

More like a trophy of some sort since he didnt cover that wound up and aint scared of it getting infected or becoming an open weakness in the coming fights.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

I like how Freya just doesn't care about her grandson. 10/10 Writing!

[@Unknownigen]

It's possible Freya didn't even know about Forseti, given that in the game she hadn't even seen Baldur in a long-ass time. He coulda had a wife and all that without Freya ever knowing.

[@Vangaurd_tiger]

Freya was thrown out of asgard and during that time baldur was not married

[@Amartin-mu6oj]

Check out the brain on this guy!

[@georgekostaras]

i'm distracted by Thrud's giant 80s hair

[@rk900prototype9]

They could’ve made the venom play a bigger role in the game, imagine if we had a subplot where Thor is sick and dying from the venom, and he knows this, and he tries to make things right before he dies. Similar to Arthur Morgan

[@Aurora42424]

This happens in Norse mytho as he dies after nine steps. So ya wouldn't really be possible to survive a few weeks like Arthur had TB

[@Clyde975]

@@Aurora42424 died 9 steps after barely defeating The World Serpent. So it was probably the combination of the Venom and Battle Wounds

[@Aurora42424]

@@Clyde975 that's what i meant

[@Estebanues]

Fuck, the spoiler aaaaaaaaaa :'(

[@vagoslordofcinder7861]

​@@Aurora42424 weeks? My brother Arthur survived for months while going through the toughest physical challenges like guarma

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

Forseti is forgotti 🙃

[@linneausmsiska1184]

I wonder how many hours it takes for voice actors in big rpg to record dialogue cause i imagine games like witcher 3 and rrd2 must have taken a lot of work considering how much dialogue is in those games

[@mr_brownyt4388]

I wonder if Thor could fully heal from a wound from the Blade of Olympus, and if yes how long would it take

[@LCTesla]

As easily as he beat Kratos

[@s1gmaduck]

@@LCTeslahuh In your dream

[@LCTesla]

@@s1gmaduck did you completely forget he resurrected him mid battle

[@sharkfinsoap8318]

@@LCTesla So it doesn't heal?

[@middynone9818]

@@LCTesla did you see kratos vs thor round 2

[@aceking385]

I’m replaying the game and got to these two having this conversation on constant repeat. Like I just put the controller down and just watched. The conversation immediately starts over and just keeps looping.

[@kilroy987]

Yep, direct reference to his wound there... really clear.

[@Zarkaz]

It is because they said "Thor posioned" but the Asgardian don't know it's because of his wound

[@johnleonard9102]

Such a great setup from 2018 only to be wasted in Ragnarok. That venom is what's supposed to kill Thor, not just give him a scar he doesn't even talk about.

[@idk-qw4gk]

A lot of people are asking about when we will be able to see forseti. I think it would be a cool idea for him to Show up in the next game(set in egypt or somewher else) and become one of the Main villains. Similiarly to Baldur he would hunt Kratos throughout the game, they would meet a couple of times throughout until Kratos eventually kills him. I believe that this can work because as far as we know forseti doesn't die in Ragnarok and would want to take revenge for his dead family and his destroyed home.

[@mightylion6432]

Nope we will most definitely not see him they are done with norse mythology

[@yuiopqwert2172]

@@mightylion6432 in God of War. What if they make a standalone game about Atreus since I think he is still in the norse region with all the "finding surviving giants" stuff

[@ededdandeddytv5164]

@@yuiopqwert2172Except angrboda said they weren’t anywhere in the nine realms

[@yuiopqwert2172]

@@ededdandeddytv5164 but what if they want to get back to jotunnheim since Odin's gone? There's a chance that they'd meet Forseti on their way back

[@slickrick9631]

So you think Freya would be chill with Kratos killing her grandson

[@elijah6497]

If there keeping this forsetti guy a secret 🤐 I wonder if he’s the one who blew the horn 🤔

[@hohuy1469]

In the Norse mythology, Thor did die because of Jörmungandr's venom/poison air, he managed to make 9 steps but that is the end of his life. Compare with that, he had it easy with the World Serpent

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

*NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE WOUND.*

[@Zarkaz]

Did you not watch the video? They clearly said Thor was posioned meaning they don't know it was from the leviathan axe

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

@@Zarkaz Not sure ya knew but wound and poison are two different terms that mean two different things.

[@Zarkaz]

@@MrWhatdafuBOOM Yeah the player knows it's referring too Thor's wound but Asgardians are basically confirming he's poisoned

[@MicolashAnfitriónDeLaPesadilla]

In the first game you get eitr imbued

[@XyloPlaysTTV]

Doesn’t actually mean they were referencing his wound.

[@Unknownigen]

I mean, they were referencing the way Thor dies in actual mythology (the World Serpent's venom/poison), which the Leviathan Axe was imbued with in the last game. Very loosely related at best

[@craptaincrunch5827]

I dont understand why the raven keeper and Forsetti werent just made into the same person. Playing though the first time, i assume that would be the revelation but no, Forsetti is just some useless background prop who seems to only exist for Sif to pull up and say Kratos killed Heimdall.

[@Unknownigen]

It honestly felt like parts of the story weren't given the development they should've been given. Forsetti just being a name thrown around, Sinmara being said to be a super important part of Ragnarok but the characters finding a workaround near instantly and her not appearing at all, all the Nine Realms uniting just like that for the 20 minute "war" that was Raganrok. It really feels like parts of this game were cut and/or shortened due to time constraints. Really unfortunate, as all the potential was there.

[@Thehiddenmoran]

This reminds of assassin's creed valhalla when thor's sage self got poisoned by lead.

[@yokotubene]

If the buildup of the snake's poison being imbued in Kratos' axe from the last game was just for this dialogue and/or Thor not healing his wound, then that's extremely lame and disappointing. It should have been a way bigger deal than this nonsense in my opinion.

[@aimanimran3010]

trueeee probably because a different director was the reason

[@brandonmizon2887]

Is it ever confirmed the axe poisons thor or just theory? Why does the axe not poison anybody else?

[@miragemissile1769]

It crazy tht most of the people in the lodge are gods but never introduced

[@Snikpoh1390]

How does this have anything to do with Thor's wound?

[@blankblank6214]

Well that's a nice nod to the myth

[@sammcfarlane2494]

Why is it that no one asked Thor how he got that scare.

[@cookingwithkratos]

This dialogue is in reference to tyr aka odin poisoning the stew at sindris house. I have a video on my page about it.

[@TeamPitbullOfficial]

God of war 2018 is not the first chapter of the series more have come out

[@infinitypeaches3329]

when did anyone say that gow 2018 was the first game of the series?

[@dyomel3249]

JOHN 3:16 FOR GOD SO LOVE THE WORLD, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE

[@SirKratos_]

Thats so irrelevant

[@infinitypeaches3329]

what exactly does christianity have to do with the 8th installment of the god of war series?

[@Amartin-mu6oj]

​@@SirKratos_ Is being negative for no reason any more relevant than his comment though?

[@Amartin-mu6oj]

​@@infinitypeaches3329 surprisingly a lot if you know the original plan for kratos' future

[@infinitypeaches3329]

@@Amartin-mu6oj ik the original plan, but why copy paste a page from the bible in a video about thor's wound?

[@RvnWolf]

It's funny, because in myth it is poison that kills him

[@ycarusgamer5187]

Sad that there is no heimdall's room and I wanted to see forsetti and Nanna The son and baldur's wife it would be amazing ah Gods that exist in this universe but are dead are them: Skadi,Mani,Aegir,Njord freya's and Freyr father,Kvasir,Skirnir And finally Hoenir It is confirmed in the pages of the book of Atreus and that people find throughout the nine kingdoms Gods that are missing and don't know if they exist In this universe And some of them are others sons of Odin,Freya,Thor and Loki + the wives of Loki and surtur Aesir gods are they: Hermod,Uller,Hoder,Lorride the other Thor's daughter,Meili,Bragi,Hela Loki's Daughter,Vali,Vidar,Var,Ran Freya and freyr's mother and others ran's childrens They are the 9 heimdall's mothers,Sinmara surtur's wife and Sigyn Loki's wife The Others Vanir Gods Are they: Mundilfari,Lytir,Vanlandi,Oder,Fulla,Bil,Hlin,Saga,Gefjunn And finally Suna and Nott the sun and moon goddesses + Odin's Horse and Thor's Goats and Siegfried and Beowulf Midgard warriors who are demigods like Samson/Bible and Hercules The versions in Norse Mythology And a detail the dragons in the 1st game of 2018 that we saved are the dragons that they kill in the original story :) + the Freya's priestesses are: Sjofn,Lofn,Vjofn,Syn and Snotra l Hopefully in a god of war 6 or In a story dlc have all them 🥺😔🙏 like and Bye!

[@Elti979]

It's jormumgandrs poison that was on kratos axe

[@alphaghoul]

So does Thor specifically have tremendous poison immunity or are they chalking it up to his huge girth and high tolerance to alcohol?

[@Unknownigen]

It's kinda just a reference to the fact that that's how he dies in Norse mythology. He kills the World Serpent, but he received wounds during the fight, and he dies from its venom after taking 9 steps. Nothing was really done with it in the game story/lore wise

[@kevinthejuice]

@@Unknownigen I need somebody to count how many side quests you do with thor as atreus..

[@Money_maker12]

Forseti? so we didn't see vidar and forseti wow they could've been boss fights god damn it

[@bigboibebop]

How the hell is this related to his gaping stomache wound

[@rivalifritdarc2481]

I'm still sceptical about the Axe's Venom Is the developer already confirmed that?

[@davidpagan8559]

Kratos' stomach wound came from a god Thor's stomach would came from a god

[@wildguardian]

What a natural thing.. talking with a mug on their hands.. on thay fixed position.. never taking a sip.. While both of them are talking that.. her daughter right next to them.. And no one reacts about that. Meanwhile in a old old game .. called red dead redemption 2.. npcs having a meal cut their meat and eat it bite by bite.

[@HallowedEarth02]

rdr2 wouldn't be worse if it didn't have realistic meal-eating npcs, and ragnarok wouldn't be better if it did. it's just another random detail

[@Amartin-mu6oj]

And god of war has gameplay that's actually fun, different priorities

[@hannimodjo7962]

Maybe Forseti is for the next game?

[@MaxMikescrool1]

This could be great supporting speculation for people who don't believe that Kratos poisoned Thor. I ran into someone who said Fimbulvetr wears down all things, therefore Leviathan lost all it's enchantments including Jörmungandr's venom Eitr, but the poison is less magical and more physical imo. However, personal opinions aside the eitr venom is primordial in nature, closely related to Ymir. Thanks to Atreus' later commentary it is safe to assume that like the primordial realms, Fimbulvetr had little to no effect on more primordial forces.

[@Marako0524]

Nice headcanon but no. It has nothing to do with what happend in mythos Thor just cant self heal Brok and Sindri made the weapon and worked on it several times through the story and never mentioned anything about whether or not the weapon affected poison or you think they couldnt notice? Baldur got some axe swings and nothing happend same with Modi (even Thor beat him up and those wounds didnt disappear, not coz of the axe) Someone was trying to poison him, Thor thought by paranoia (self hate by killing the giants/hes relatives and its never faded/became a drunkard) and wasnt already affected by poisoning

[@AGarcia34]

I would have loved to see forseti in Atreus parts when he is on Asgard in the myths he doesnt participate in ragnarok cuz that he is the god of justice, peace and truth so would have been cool to see him at least helping the midgardians in ragnarok

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

LET ME SEE FORSETI

[@saurophaganax_0]

How is that about his wound?

[@skins4thewin]

Strange that it didn't heal. Don't those wounds usually heal for the gods?

[@Bloodhound479]

Yes normally. But in gow 2018 when kratos throws his axe in the lake the world serpent spits it back out and at that point it's inbeded with poison that can kill thor in the myths

[@boltgamer7]

Wait if the Leviathan Axe had Jormanganders Venom then Thor should be dead and yet he's not and only has a wound??

[@Unknownigen]

Yeah, it's just more of a reference to the original myth

[@vagoslordofcinder7861]

Nah. Baldur got hit with the leviathan pretty badly after atreus broke tje curse and he still healed no effort. Also fimbulwinter has taken its toll on the axe and stuff

[@Sokka-Lockblade]

Hold on,if the 2018 leviathan axe was infused by jormungandr venom?,then why did baldur didnt suffer from it?,is it his abbility or...plot armor 🗿

[@danielbucey3060]

Baldr's only weakness is Mistletoe, not the Serpent's venom

[@shadowknights3942]

Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.

[@billypresley2963]

They didn't say anything about Thor's wound!

[@bryguy1502]

In the first game the Leviathan Axe was imbued with the World Serpent’s venom. When Kratos hit Thor with it the wound didn’t heal; perhaps making the god weaker overall. The poison of the Serpent is what kills Thor in the mythological Ragnarok. So Forseti probably thinks that because Thor isn’t healing and is maybe looking weaker (actually withdrawal from alcoholism) someone is trying to poison him.

[@MaxMikescrool1]

@@bryguy1502 Except this last point is moot. Forseti has already seen what alcohol withdrawl looks like. It is also not Thor's first time practicing sobriety. Thor was sober before all this and has only recently broke his commitment and began sobreity again.

[@nodoesntcare7090]

?????