God Of War Ragnarok - What Is The Mask? Connected To 'Greater Gods?' Breakdown And Analysis!

[@patryk7754]

My first impulse thought is to think that Tyr was originally helping Odin with the rift/mask and that’s why Tyr traveled from mythology to mythology. Each piece of the mask is from a different land and that’s why Tyr traveled. I don’t think the real Tyr knows that kratos knows about the mask so it would make sense that he doesn’t shed any light on it during the game. Once Tyr and Odin have a falling out, Tyr scatters the mask throughout the 9 realms. This would explain why the mask pieces with different languages are all found in the 9 realms.

[@Writing_Gamer_513]

I also think it’s implied by the context of the game that it’s mostly true to historical mythology, Proto-Indo-European Mythology had a head deity named Dyḗws Ph₂tḗr, which is where the gods Zeus Patēr, Jupiter, and our man of the hour Týr, names come from. Odin was a different cultures god who overthrew tyr and probably what happened in GoW.

[@Revolus10n]

Great point 👌🏽

[@plumbus7253]

It totally makes sense! Since the languages on the mask are foreign of the nine realms since Odin cannot read it and it’s clear that one of Loki’s powers was his gift on knowledge of all languages

[@rdf4315]

I was just about to say that since Tyr is the only one that's been to many of the different pantheons .

[@dp5-1]

But there was only 3 pieces the masks we're broken into. With 9 realms and a possible order of the language's as clues to follow? Maybe? There had to be a connection in order to reach that higher place.

[@dylan41211]

In Greek mythology there exist primordial, corporeal entities that are innate in the foundations of the universe. In Greek Mythology you had Chaos, Tartarus, Eros and Gaia. Eros was in essence a form of corruption, the basis of emotion and feeling which was able to consume gods and mortals alike. In the first 3 games Zeus is terrified as he's been consumed by a segment of this in what was released from Pandora's box in Fear. Alternatively, Kratos is consumed by Hope and this Hope is what enables him to bring down the pantheon; eventually stabbing himself with the Blade of Olympus to release it back into the world. Perhaps the higher plane focuses on the distribution of these primordial entities and charges each specific pantheon with the monitoring and function of these entities where the people and environmental interpretation of these entities alters the roles and general powers of the gods and pantheon involved in them.

[@karlmaxey]

Based from the movie The Mask, it was created by Loki to cause chaos. I did not see this coming in the game

[@geigercourtier]

Why is nobody talking about this? If you accept it was just a Irl movie fan service, you’re less disappointed it accumulated to nothing.

[@rdf4315]

That would definitely make sense since he was the trickster God in the mythology problem is Sony Santa Monica didn't establish that in the God of war series Loki is so out of character in the game until you forget that he's supposed to be Loki someone that's a villain if not the devil in Norse mythology .

[@gotemstopmotion9076]

As a great man once said “SMOKIN”

[@TheAmpharosFreak]

@@rdf4315 tons of gods in the Norse series don’t act like they should

[@lefterismplanas4977]

@@rdf4315 also, we don't have lots of Info on nurse mythology, and the two main texts that we DO have... diverge from eachother quite a bit. Given that not alot of books do not survive the passage of time, and that some of out only examples diverge. We can quite safely extrapolate that nurse mythology was not as solid as we would want it be. That fact can be reinforced when you think how that mythology handles some situations like battles, where you're given so little info as to be forced into imagining the rest. I personally think that the nords(?) people would be interested to hear this version of the story, and the laugh & drink to it untill they solidly believed on you having lost your marbles! And they'd like you for it too!

[@joeldean2706]

I'm thinking that this "Higher plane". Will be like a big set up for a big finale to God of War itself. Like a big Avengers Endgame like event wear they fight these High plane of gods like Athena who's been some what chosen by them.

[@VinnyUnion]

Athena is an impostor. The higher being is disguised as Athena to get the power of hope. It has the same green hue like the rift that Odin is being tempted with.

[@mogu232]

exactly athena wants to protect zeus so bad then after trascending to higher plane she support kratos to kill zeus

[@moiseshuerta294]

I can’t wait to see what comes of it. So many possibilities

[@insanemakaioshin]

8:30 - Pleroma fits that description, as it was stated that all lesser gods were created by the Demiurge, that was created by Sophia (Wisdom), the fallen that was casted out of it.

[@rdf4315]

I've been saying this for a while and I believe at least for kratos that all roads lead to a ultimate confrontation with Athena, I doubt that they would be setting kratos up to fight the one above all since even at his strongest he would stand no chance unless he got asura level power up, but yeah I think it's going to be Athena or maybe nyx or both, but it would be nice to see them include Sumerian / Mesopotamia god's as well especially since you find a statue of Sargon the Great in Tyr treasure room .

[@derp-7274]

I like the theory that the mask is a mask related to the Mayans because they did have masks like this

[@Broomer52]

I feel like it’s related to what the Norse call “Fimbultyr” Theirs a plain of existence higher than the other Gods and Norse Mythology actually mentions this Fimbultyr is known as “Mighty God” and is a God born before all other Gods and is the most powerful of them all and is also just the Christian God worked into Norse Myth. Odin wanted to know what happens when Gods die, where do they go? The Mask held answers and a Rift that could show them everything. Athena ascended to a form higher than the Olympian Gods by self sacrifice. This could be the equivalent of a god getting the attention of the Big G and him accepting them into the Higher Order of existence, essentially being an Angel. Obviously Angels can still fall to evil as evidenced by the Bible itself but, i feel like Fimbultyr is a likely answer to everything.

[@derp-7274]

@@Broomer52 I can see that though I feel like they won't really talk about the Bible because it's still a really relevant religion though I like that theory though I feel like the Mayan would one would be a nice introduction for that pantheon if they choose to which is possible since there is references to Mayans in recent time

[@nirjhar4803]

​@@derp-7274 I doubt that... As it was stated the masked contained various different languages from various different mythologies. And while it could be related to that of the Mayans, it cant be just that.

[@derp-7274]

@@nirjhar4803 good point

[@johnnyzero8853]

It always reminded me of The Mask when I first saw that mask that glows green

[@DreArtistMusic]

The power the Mask got was from Loki in the movie....he was trapped inside of the mask

[@averytherockgod9822]

Perhaps the higher plane could actually be a reference to the Gnostic Pleroma especially since Gnosticism has a lotta ties to various other mythologies, especially Greek mythology. So it would make sense that perhaps the final pantheon Kratos will hv to take down, will be the Gnostic pantheon of the 7 Archons, and the Gnostic malevolent creator deity, the Demiurge, serving as the final boss.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

That's what Kaptain Kubas theory was and it was dope af. Like the mask and rift was the Demiurges way to being completed (the mask being made whole only to be absorbed by the rift, also it contains knowledge amongst other things it is trying to obtain).

[@PsychicEdge4812]

Demiurge has a creator called Sofia

[@samuelwolch1302]

@@PsychicEdge4812 interesting thing is that Sofia means wisdom in greek. Know who do we know from Greece who is synonymous with wisdom?

[@averytherockgod9822]

Yeah Ik, Danceuprising, she’s basically like his mom but he doesn’t hv a dad cause he’s fatherless lol

[@averytherockgod9822]

Yeah Ik, Danceuprising, she’s basically like his mom but he doesn’t hv a dad cause he’s fatherless lol

[@billybattle]

The Mask is SMOKIN!

[@SergioBocanegra]

that what I was thinking when heard Loki holding a wooden mask that glows green.

[@gingersperg]

He didn't lose his eye in search for knowledge from mimir's 'magical' drink. Mimir exclaims that he tried to pull out his own eye, but that mimir prevented him from doing so.

[@Princeomishore]

but in the game odin states the he lost his eye by looking in the tear/rift

[@ixinor]

@@Princeomishore Odin lies, its his nature. Everything he says is twisted. Mimir says what he knows, doesn't mean he knows everything.

[@gingersperg]

What are you both on about? I was merely refuting the claim that he pulled his eye out. And he could have lied but it doesn't matter because there is an explanation for why his eye was missing and since one of the 2 we have was shot down by mimir in the first game, odins word is the only word we have so far.

[@ixinor]

@@gingersperg why would Mimir lie

[@gingersperg]

@@ixinor I didn't say he lied. He could well have. But what I said was mimir says 'x didn't happen' and odin said 'y did happen'. It's unlikely that they BOTH lied about the reason his eye is missing.

[@lloydbonafide3398]

My prediction is garm, and the 2018 world serpent are lokis kids. Future loki created the mask. That's why the mask might've reacted to the garms' location and have similar looking auras. The mask can see different mythologies and sources. Loki created the mask to get answers and to bring the ones he love back to life. He was interested when odin told him that.

[@axlaxel6331]

At the end of Ragnarok, the Mask flew through the portal, then arrived to a guy named Stanley Ipkiss on Edge City letting loose a bigger threat than Odin

[@sweetjustice8141]

😮

[@twontwon1827]

Damn ! U may be on to something Lowkey

[@normanmai7865]

lowkey

[@charllie4297]

I was really wanting us to have to go the place in hel that we see Zeus in the first game as mimir told us to never go there made me think we would visit it in the second would have made more sense that the mask fragment was there as well and see the boy and Zeus have a chat would have been mind blowing

[@colecaldwell4278]

That Zeus in helheim wasn’t real it was one of Kratos memories that helheim exploited

[@Spacecowboyy69]

@@colecaldwell4278 still no reason for them to tease it in the first game only for it to go no where, like hufflegaffr jellyfish things, they were so pointless in this game, the amount of things done for the sake of it in this game is mind numbingly dumb

[@zamykcaa]

@@Spacecowboyy69 they literally explained the random shit. Kratos did it to spend time with Atreus, saving creatures like Atreus wants to do. A good reason to put as much mythology into the game as possible.

[@Spacecowboyy69]

@@zamykcaa thats fucked up though, its god of war, not God of babysitting and being bullied by your brat offspring, this game would have honestly been a perfect TV series, but as a game is just a story, I don't mind good stories in my games but when they take place over gameplay and replagability it effects my judgement on them, I would have had the same experience watching this on KZbin than I did playing it, game was just dragged out, and we spent more time picking fruit than we did at ragnarok wtf is up with that

[@dominikbartlewicz]

@@Spacecowboyy69 Cory has literally said that the place where you watch kratos beat up zeus infront of atreus is the same place that mimir says to never go there. Weve already been.

[@ven412]

The Rift is a gateway to look into Sony Santa Monica studios where Odin would discover his entire life and reality is a computer simulation created by an advanced race. Odin has no control over Ragnorok or anything since it's already been written.

[@dreademperor2094]

I believe if there are other masks out there and like maybe in Egypt some of the the Egyptian gods are guarding the mask fragments and put those who seek out the fragments through various challenges to see if they're deemed worthy (as the Egyptian Pantheon are more noble and honorable then most of the Greek Pantheon)

[@ethansanders5706]

I like to think it’s The Mask. It just tickles me to imagine Kratos fighting against Jim and the “toonforce” as a comedic secret of the GoW universe.

[@mrInhinyero]

My theory to how the mask works is its similar to MCU's soul stone, where the price for the knowledge is the soul of someone dear to you, that's why the prophecy in Jotunheim displays Kratos in Atreus' arms and his soul leaving him. If Atreus looked into the the rift through the mask, that prophecy would have come true

[@93BossRoss]

holy shit!

[@igormalusevic]

Translation from Greek inscription ("Επι της Φλεγόμενης οψιανου γης και επι του εξ σπινθηρος πεδιον μαχης ουδηοτε νενομε νων") is : "On the Flaming evening land and on the field of battle made of bronze, we shall never be conquered" i use chat GPT to translate this inscription

[@turtferguson4831]

I do like the idea that Athena was trying to reach out to atreaus, even before he was born, As a way of getting to kratos

[@jeskerjames3260]

I think the higher plane is going to be something tied into gnosticism and ideas from it. There may be a demiurge type being above all pantheons and then above that a true God.

[@My6119]

6:40 it did a bit when Kratos mentioned when he tried discarding the blades, they got back to him.

[@NetMoverSitan]

Well, what is certain is that it doesn't turn the wearer into a green headed reality warper with stripped away social inhibitions (and moral inhibitions, if it's the source material version)

[@supersoldierx40]

I think the writers have a purpose for the mask in the upcoming titles and it'll connect all the sagas the origin or the creation of everything every realm... Etc I think that's why they didn't reveal it here they wanted this game to be focused on just the end of odin

[@NeroLeMorte]

Here i thought it was The Mask like from the comics , cartoon show and movie

[@pedropierre9594]

The mask of Loki

[@danieltentori7523]

SMOKIN !!!

[@pedropierre9594]

@@danieltentori7523 😂

[@MidnightWanderer]

I say it's a literary a higher plane of existence, even beyond the various pantheons out there, with a chosen few that have assessed themselves from their own celestial realm to one well beyond to a a nirvana or a true heaven. I also think Athena is one of those few that had ascended to this new form of existence, hence why those supposed visions Kratos had of her in the previous GoW, was in fact actually her, astral projecting herself to Kratos. I mean the sheen of green on her form is just like the rift, as is the sound. Something tells me that we will see her again soon, along with potential other fully assessed deities involved in the next GoW.

[@benfreiler4054]

I think that the Mask is just a tool to see into the rift. But the rift itself is the answer as to how Kratos and Tyr were able to travel from one Pantheon to the other.

[@rickyr8470]

Love the vids keep the the great work man I hope ur channel blows up even more this year

[@lilithanarchy1228]

I think it might be a rift to some boundless being that you'll eventually fight in the final god of war

[@sonkocyrille3203]

My theory is there will be two overarching beings the good one : one above all type of character and the0 second one and evil one Lucifer type

[@ryggamortis7594]

Theres an alternate ending were loki gets trapped in the mask and theres a 3000 year time jump were the mask is found by scuba diver’s in edge city lol 😂

[@jdog1823]

Oh my god it’s Johnny Cage’s green energy!!!!! ITS ALL CONNECTED!!!!!

[@ALtheuncommonicedragon8360]

I think the rift is more just a metaphor for the unknown, and that spending your whole life trying to unravel it will just result in hurting those you have responsibility to in present. Like Odin did

[@nextgen5619]

My theory for the higher plain of existence is that a god with great wisdom is sent there as Athena and Odin were very wise and were the ones who uncovered that realm and when all these gods gather it will form a new pantheon of gods with great wisdom and a new Olympus

[@YungGxth]

I would like to add that when Heimdall died he didn't dissolve like Thor did, I don't know if that has anything to do with gungnir being used but it could work with him ending up in the higher plane of existence.

[@Z3roPurge]

Thor dissolved? I thought it was only the runes and tattoos on his body? Same happened with balder..his tattoos started to glow and dissolved

[@YungGxth]

@@Z3roPurge yes if you see his death scene again you'll see him fade away, and his "ashes/soul" flies away

[@danielendless]

Rift, Green Ascended Athena, Green Good enough for me

[@annoyedbeing4615]

Maybe The Higher Plane could be a sort of "heaven' or greater existence for worthy enough gods. As we're aware Athena was a great god in life (in comparison to the rest of Olympus). It was only after her death that she was finally corrupted by the Madness of the Titans or whatever it was called and i actually think the astral form of Athena was just the piece of her corrupted by the evils in Pandora's Box that was left over when she "ascended" as im gonna put it. And i think its the same case for Zeus just in a more extreme manner since he was fully corrupted and he wasn't even a good person/god before he was corrupted he wasnt worthy enough to ascend and even if he was his entire soul was corrupted so he couldnt and there was nothing left behind like in Athena's case. And that also goes for the rest of the gods. Also it seems like a big theory is that Thor also ascended when he died bc he turned into particles much like Athena and i kinda think it could be true but im not really sure but if it is: i think he would of been able to ascend bc even though he did a lot of really bad things it was all under Odin's command and Thor did it to please his father, though he did take joy in it so i dont really know. He also did try to be a good dad in some manner for Thrud at least. So except for taking joy in killing the giants it seems like he was an okay person/god at the least (correct me if im worng) but the way he died could of also just been effects to make it more dramatic but idk. Thats just my theory and opinion tho and i really hope that all made sense.

[@infinitypeaches3329]

the evils that were corrupting zeus were released when kratos slammed his head on the ground(you can see black smoke leaving his body)

[@Thedeepesttruth]

I just want to spitball some ideas and theories! But I think the mask has to deal more with the giants and gods and the way things were an age before. Kinda like why gods exists and exist in each land and culture but they all can die. Maybe it’s a similar common creation of gods. Like once upon a time all the races were one. They exist perfect and in harmony. They had the elemental power of the gods, the spiritual power of the giants, and the mass of titans. But then something happen? The realm divide and so too did this perfect being? Creating the different races. While each culture has a different Heaven, maybe that’s not true heaven or nirvana. The higher realm is. The heavens we see are more the creation of the gods. It kinda feeds into the idea that gods are not actual Gods, but beings that pretend to be or are believed to be. Part of their power is the belief of others and their selves. They are kinda like a symbiotic parasite. But they also formed each specific afterlife as a way to harness and control the souls and fates of mankind. The higher realm is the true heaven. It’s where the source of soul and divinity and power exists. This kinda has no support in canon or any in game info. It comes from more commonalities in actual mythologies. There is always an ancestral race that is considered better or perfect. In the Greeks you can find it in the stories of creation of soulmate and mankind and why there are opposite sexes. In the Hindu pantheon their most powerful gods seem to have no specific gender but can be both at once or switch back and forth. In ancient Hebrew myths angels do not have one sex but both, or not at all. But what the ingame lore shows, is that all gods and cultures are connected and similar in someway. The mask is indicative of that, so is Tyr and Kratos being able to go to different realms and pantheons. The commonality maybe that their source of power and reason for existence is in part from that higher realm.

[@strato-squirrel5741]

My guess would be Heaven and the gods from the different pantheons are in fact the nephlim, descendants of ancient humans and angels, for some reason this knowledge has been lost to them, maybe the flood or tower of babel killed the source of knowledge to what they are and come from. Just a guess

[@anthonyring123]

I could see it to be something with the Christian or Catholic God. Considering He is considered to be the one "true" and only God. Divine all knowing created everything and anything in the highest plane of existence. Odin is looking for answers and meaning just as we mortals also search, either through religion, spirituality, or acceptance that there may be nothing after death.

[@ihsahnmeraz1155]

Kratos is gonna fight Cthulhu next? Lol

[@Spacelozzy264]

My thought is that if the rift is linked to the higher plane; when did it occur? I wondered if it suddenly appeared one day in the Norse realm.. but around the same time as Athena came back in spectral form? Cause Mirmir states he has been studying it for years and Mirmir had heard stories of young Kratos way before he came to the Norse lands.

[@TCar29]

The rift appeared tight after Odin killed Ymir, the first giant.

[@gregoryfosdal7935]

Basically Odin was tryna peep into the DMT realm

[@kingofzero]

Would love to see kratos head to Japan. That would visually be insane.

[@crystalking784]

Actually now that you mentioned it there's actually one religion that connects everything, well technically two. Out of the Mesopotamian which is Babylon or Zoroastrianism, I believe after those two it branched off into other religions if they Incorporated the "Tower of Babel". Maybe the Tower of Babel is where are the religion in the universe branched off from with the tower holding everything together. You know like Stephen King's "The Dark Tower".

[@crystalking784]

Hell even better, maybe the higher plane of existence is actually the world of Lovecraft. That may be one of the religion maybe Greece (when he opened the box) probably punched a hole into the void and when she "ascended" her soul might have actually fell into the void and met the old ones (and because it's Lovecraft's) maybe seeing the sight of one of the old ones caused her to go insane which is why she turned her evil; hell she might have looked at the "Yellow Sign" and succumb to Hastur becoming one of his servants without her realizing. It can also both explain and redeem "Odin", for when we meet him he looked frail, like "really" frail compared to the compared to Zeus, I mean Zeus at least looked apart while he by the stories we gathered became paranoid as well as an alcoholic with a nasty temper. He might have probably been great back then but when he stared into the Abyss he went insane. Hell maybe when he lost his eye it wasn't because he was trading it for knowledge but because he was trying to escape from the Yellow sign of Hastur or trying to unsee what he saw in the abyss. And it was after that moment that he became both damage and paranoid. And maybe the after a couple years he finally succumbed but less of a servant of Hastur and more of him becoming obsessed with it. that maybe what he saw he just couldn't escape no matter how hard he tried, and finally he finally succumbed and begin looking for a way to access the abyss.

[@wickedjay13]

If I were to wager a guess, they might shelf the rift idea for the near future in order to focus more on Atreus and, quite possibly, throw in a few more western mythos along the way. Either Celtic or Germanic would make sense due to proximity, and would possibly open more lore about Mimir and his "Goodfellow" ways...

[@dws0828]

The fact that Forseti is hinted at in GOW and he’s the son of Baldur possibly and we never saw him makes me think he’ll be a factor later at least for Freya. Forseti is also the ‘God of Justice’ so him pursuing Kratos for what’s left of the Aesir would make sense if done right

[@TheMightyMidget]

@@dws0828 If they gave us that as Kratos DLC. And something different more future-of-the-series teasing with Atreus/Loki DLC

[@jumpierwolf]

They already threw in some stuff from those mythologies. The Kelpie is from scottish and mimir is supposed to be a fae which is celtic.

[@wickedjay13]

@Jumpier Wolf They referenced Mimir as a 'Puck' and a 'Goodfellow' as in Robin Goodfellow. Not to mention if they go with Celtic mythology they could use Morrigan, the Goddess of War

[@Yukaze89]

I hope they don't do that with mimir tbh because he is actually a Norse god he has nothing to do with celtic lore.

[@thunderbolte711]

The rift is green like Athena's astral aura, could the rift have been Athena tricking Odin to potentially help out Kratos or sway Atreus to join her side somehow?

[@Leon-mk1wn]

I watched a theory from another channel that Garm was Hrodvitnr, the Black wolf who yanks Kratos to Norse so Hrodvitnr/Garm fathered Skoll and Hati. And in that theory Hrodvitnir with a higher power called Demiurge's meddling from that emerald plane turned him into Garm to use him as a tool to do Chaotic stuffs then Norse gods or whoever chained him. Fenrir in other hand is just a name Atreus given to their normal non rift opener wolf. So basically, Fenrir's stuffs already been done even before he became by the name Fenrir.

[@Xehanort10]

6:32 If they do a game about the Egyptian mythology Set will probably be the main villain.

[@SamditoN64]

This is a great video, also "Supposebly" made me chuckle

[@Foamieninja]

Two words. Stanley Ipkiss. This is just a theory... A Film Theory, or something like that. Pretty sure the devs even made mention of it.

[@turtferguson4831]

The only mentions of loki and a mask are this game, and the jim Carrey movie. The mask turns the wearer into an avatar of loki, god of chaos. This isn't being brought up enough

[@mega_s468]

Here's my hot take on the mask and the rift. I think it might be connected to the Cthulhu Mythos... I know it's kind of a big leap from the traditional myths, but think about. The rift leads to a place above the gods, and is beyond the understanding of Atreus and Odin, except without the mask that is from the rift. And both the rift, and the light that glows from the mask are green, and green is usually associated with the Cthulhu mythos. That's my theory. I'm sure alot of you guys can prove me wrong, but you gotta admit... You would LOVE to see a fight between Kratos and Cthulhu.

[@MasterBow360]

My theory is that it was literally the 4th wall. Plain and simply the creators of God of War.

[@nawafalsulaiman1671]

The origins of mask bugs the fuck outta of me i want this knowledge odin was seeking, think I'll become the new odin

[@scarlet-overdrive67]

It would be wild as heck if god of war goes into a Lovecraftian universe.

[@julianfonseca569]

Fallen god was touched on in ragnarok. Atreus asks kratos why he doesn’t discard the BoC. Kratos replies they always comeback

[@bootyhaki9839]

I believe it’s how Tyr knew about the other Gods of War in other realms outside of the 9.

[@TripDarlin]

glad there is a proper vid on this

[@jayswaminarayan7089]

Lord Shree SwamiNarayan has beautifully put when it said { Our life would be wholesome only if we do good activities and walk in the spiritual path.} ...

[@LukeWengles]

What's beyond the emerald tear and finally what lies beyond it...

[@lordremy1291]

Honestly, two thoughts Atraius eventually get invited or brought to the higher planes, did some time sinanipgins. And he was the one Odin heard and saw through the rift. If that part was true, not Odin lying to manipulate. Another idea that I’m playing with is, could this higher plans talk. Eventually lead to a lovecraftian type of pantheon? One that has no baring on established mythos’. Along with being just the right flavor to explain why gods do not have a natural understand this high plan

[@littlecasino5331]

Everytime a new god enters the greater plane every other god must be like "damnit kratos"

[@unkelbin5739]

Has anyone addressed that this is the same looking mask as the one from “The Mask” movies?? In the second movie it’s literally revealed that Odin and Loki wanted to retrieve and utilize the mask! It looks SO similar to the mask from the game. Seriously look into it

[@victorfarias8086]

We cannot say that this scene from Fallen God represents a higher plane accessible to all pantheons regardless of country. Remember, for all we know, The Egyptian and Greek Pantheons could be one and the same. Thoth is Hermes, for example.

[@thisistherevolt]

I think in the next game we will go to Britain and Ireland. Mimir will instigate it, and Tyr will play a large role. I bet Mimir gets a body of sorts, druidic magic. It'll be a stepping stone to Egypt, and ultimately the Higher Plane.

[@V4Now]

The mask is a reference to the comic 😄

[@thegreatbocaj]

Santa Monica Studios left themselves a good leaving off point to write another great narrative for the next game. It now depends on where they go next. Egypt is a big one I think all fans are looking towards, and they could have Seth killing Osiris and him trying rule multiple dimensions, then Kratos, and/or Atreus helping Horus overthrow Seth. They can have Freya too if they have to rescue Atreus and Horus first. We also can't forget about Sindri as he could be the one to break the dimensional barrier after being promised some soft of afterlife for Brok. Other pantheons they can decide to explore are the Sumerian or the Aztec/Mayan, or even a war between the Japanese pantheon and the Japanese Bhuddist pantheon.

[@Bluesit32]

The idea with Sindri might work. Helheim lacks any sort of god (for the moment), so searching for Brok's soul would be fruitless. But other pantheons have very dedicated gods of the dead and could not only promise Sindri help, but could even show him Brok's soul, just refusing to let him go until Sindri fulfills his part of the bargain.

[@JakNasty69]

@@Bluesit32 That's a pretty good idea

[@thegreatbocaj]

@@JakNasty69Thanks.

[@jakep7378]

Small critique for the creator: A Codex is an old-timey book, not a key.

[@Jebus_Davo_83]

The original plan for gow3 was for Zues to die in the opening act leading to a war with the Egyptian and Norse Gods fighting for supremecy and Kratos was going to join up with his Egyptian and Norse counterparts to stop them all and in the end they would become the three wise men and would go to witness the birth of a new religion before Kratos would then melt down his blades and reforge them as a scythe and he would become death. With death also being one of the four horsemen, this could also imply that the other 2 war gods are 2 of the other horsemen with christ eventually becoming the fourth, which is one variation of the horsemen with the four being christ, war, death, and famine/pestilence, the latter being one horsemen instead of two. Unfortunately this idea was scrapped by higher powers in the gaming world but maybe now that they've expanded the world to include other mythos with the introduction of the Norse saga, they maybe going with the same idea but in a larger, more round about way. Therefore I believe the higher plane and the rift to be connected to the Christian god and heaven, and seeing as all mythologies start in the void, this is plausible, which is why Kratos' Blades and surtr himself had the same primordial flame within them. This further connects the idea they all came from the same place, but instead of it being just a void, it could be heaven and The God. It makes sense in my opinion. I also think the world tree could be a great way of uniting the world together, with the branch that supports Midgard expanding to the rest of the world and supports them, starting at Greece with the branch wrapping around and replacing the world pillar and Atlas. The underworld of Greece could be split into 3 to join with the three after lifes of Norse mythology, with the Asgard branch connecting the Asgard part of Valhalla to the Elysian Fields, the Vanaheim branch could connect Folkvanger to Elysium and the Helheim branch connecting Tartarus, which begins the forming of the hell we know, the heaven for the good (Folkvanger and Elysium) and the heaven of sacrificial heroes (Valhalla and the Elysian Fields) this could then continue on to other mythos, linking the world to the other mythologies and the three after lifes connecting to their relevant after lifes of the other mythos. Finally it could also go on past the birth of Christ with kratos and the remaining good gods from the other mythologies becoming protectors of mankind and could go through the mediaeval dark ages through to today and into the future, though i really think that would be taking it too far. Maybe one last one set at the end of the dark ages where the gods returnn at The God's request to end the dark ages by destroying a being of evil that os perverting the Christian order to suppress us and they need to be freed. This evil could be our first look at a demon of hell working for the Devil. Anyway that's my huge theory rant lol😂

[@pablomiranda5163]

Crazy thought, but in the comics Kratos comes across Toth so I wonder if the mask is something dealing with the emerald tablet and the philosopher stone? I mean Toth and the emerald stone held the secrets of the universe, youth and wealth. If this is the case, would the next game take place in Atlantis?

[@marq1006]

Thanks!

[@SpottedHares]

Theirs some evidence that Heracles, yes that one from God of War 3, was actually a neolithic deity. One so ancient that only the much latter references of much later society would survive. So maybe a Pantheon of god so ancient that they were gone before even the most ancient of current deity's arrived on t he scene. granted these would be insanely hard to write as by design their so old that in our world not much more then speculation survives of their existence.

[@karlmaxey]

Could the higher plane be ruled by the Christian God?

[@tonybs03]

I think the rift and the mask are related to consciousness

[@prjoker4902]

I love your videos 😊 happy new year 🎊 2023

[@chrispinner8505]

Its the mask, from the movie, The Mask, which was said to once belong to Loki

[@Agradedbutfaded]

Yeah, I’m not going lie, a part of me wanted Odin to put on the mask and do the thing.

[@jonnytech_]

Best video explanation!

[@comixproviderftw_02]

SMOKIN’! -The Mask

[@UnkillableSorcerer]

6:40 the comic or what happened in the comic IS touched in the game. In the comic kratos tried to throw the blades away but they came back. In the game atreus asks kratos why he still has those blades and kratos says he tried to throw them but they came back. So i guess we can take this comic serious. Just a hint

[@lionward8634]

It's sort of peculiar that what we know of from the GoW comic is that at least Athena and Thoth are in the Higher Plane. Both being their respective pantheons' God of Wisdom (among other things, of course, but that's their main title). I suppose it requires greater knowledge and "divine wisdom", let's say, to be able to enter? Don't think sacrificing yourself for the greater good would cut it.

[@thunderbolte711]

Well when skol and hati chase the sun and moon it does look like they are opening up a rift from day to night and vice versa.

[@MidnightWanderer]

If this higher realm is some form of heaven, does that mean that the supposed figment of Kratos imagination of seeing Athena, back in the previous GoW, was in fact actually Athena in her ascended non-corporal form contacting Kratos from the plane of existence? It would make some sense, since the rift was there in the Norse realm for some time. Who knows, she could be one of few deities to ascend to this level.

[@Slapyourmomma30]

All they have to do is time travel to 1994 and ask Stanley Ipkiss exactly how to use the mask! SMOKIN....

[@RossoNero1987]

6:00 this comics turned out to be non-canon... Because Kratos talks about Egypt as land he wanted to travel but in comics he was there.

[@tx214.]

So my biggest question is...what would have happened if loki would have worn the mask at tye end???? I have yet to find an answer

[@infinitypeaches3329]

the rift would be opened, the answers to both life and death would be revealed and odin would win ragnarok

[@rjthechamp]

Make a History of Tyr episode

[@Savage_Deity]

Happy New Year! Just completed God of War Ragnarok so your video dropped at a good time. 😁

[@fuqsamsung4481]

I think Kratos wouldn't be fighting little monkey creatures and using his Spartan powers and does no damage utterly underwhelming. Some gameplay mechanics alone makes me feel that this guy isn't that powerful

[@antonioskontonasakis]

All these various mythologies with various AND real creation stories need to come from somewhere. There needs to be a level more fundamental to the pantheons we see- a progenitor of pantheons. I think the mask was a way to glimpse the higher plane. Only unfortunate thing is that the higher plane corrupts all minds- mortal or immortal

[@blackfox4138]

Should also note that every religion and mythology has different ideas of what constitutes as a god. To the Greeks, the Theoi were a race of deathless beings that were all powerful and were directly responsible for the creation of humanity and civilization. To the Norse, the Aesir were a tribe of beings that resided in Asgard, and many of whom involved themselves in the inner workings of the universe. While the GoW franchise takes a very Ovidic stance on the gods, that being it portrays the gods as flawed human-like beings, It does seem to now be making more of an effort to fully research the mythologies in question. This leads me to believe that the mask will likely tie into the Egyptian series, as that cosmology believes that there are beings that the gods exclusively worship, as their religion is tied to their theocratic hierarchy.

[@nooddles12]

Kratos vs Athena. Book it.

[@ededdandeddytv5164]

“What is beyond the emerald tear? And finally what lies beyond it?” 🤦🏽‍♂️🤔

[@MrNooby-kj9ex]

My first thought when you talked about it being linked to other mythologies is i thought it could of been linked to higher gods like Buddha because he is all powerful

[@Gorg1]

Ancient unknowable power accessed by an ancient artifact through an ominous green rift in space and time? Sounds a lot like Lovecraft to me, and possible a great old one like Yog or Cthulu attempting to influence lesser gods

[@kharinificentmovies]

I mean Loki and the mask is in a lot of other media like the mask from the mask is linked to loki that’s where i thought they got the influence

[@SomberP]

Now that I think about it the mask carvings don’t make sense at all They have clues for where the pieces were, so the carvings would have been made after it scattered. And then what would the final piece have said on it?